What motor do you recommend? (Was hoping this would be one of the 10 questions you answered). Gonna preorder one today from my LHS or Cardinal... EDIT: Pre-ordered from Cardinal!!! So stoked!!!
I recommend the Zenoah 29cc up to 32cc 4bolt 2 strokes. We'll be talking engines next episode. the stock exhaust will do for a while you'll have more torque than you need for a while. ha!
@@kpopRC Hopefully you will do a video on what electronics you recommend too. I was gonna copy Matt's setup, but can't afford $450 for a steering servo...
@@kpopRC i got a few questions, 1 what diff oil do you recommend? brand wise is what im asking mostly on that one tho, i know shock oil can slightly differ between brands so i assume the same for diff oil, 2 any minor upgrades in say the handling department you recommend on 5bs as a whole?, 3 tyres, should i swap out the front tyres since i can't find the stock tyres anywhere in the uk as the after market twin blade ones look better for sand than the stock ones, but im mostly tarmac and grass which the stock ones would handle better and 4 what is the best aftermarket shock oil you recommend? as the stock one is all well and good, but if my shocks spring a leak and/or i have to replace them, i can't find the stock shock oil either....and as i mentioned on the previous vid...knowing my luck...
Got my 5T new in 2009 for £999 sold it in 2013. It was a beast everyone loved it, the sound and scale was amasing but now I need electric for ease of use and less maintenance
Cheers boiz ! Man i really like those kind of video, short , full of useful information.. only downside is the fact that now i need one of those ! Kit version seems so nice to build !
Good info in the video! I like the behind the scenes info. It’s very cool that you were able to get in on the kick-off of the Re-Re. I think I was getting out of Baja’s as you were getting into them around 2011/2012. I’ve since picked up a Re-Re flux and started digging in on the build. I haven’t touched a Baja since I got out of them, so I have to dust off the cobwebs and try to remember the platform.
This was my grail when I was a kid, now here I am at 27 getting back into RC and the Baja has returned to shelves. I'm gonna try everything in my power to get a Flux version of this buggy. I would love to restart my channel next year with one of these haha.
Simple answer to no10 is YES. I have 4 bajas at the moment yes rovan, king motors are alot cheaper but the quality difference in the HPI baja is second to none. It's silly to think about it but you can feel the quality difference just by touching them.
something tells me that won't happen. which is too bad. There are conversion kits from rovan that are brittle. Then again, the new savages are a far cry from what they where 15 years ago.
Lots of aftermarket support for the baja. Sadly alot of the original guys who were making aftermarket stuff the the hpi have slowly faded away . Hopefully with the hpi coming back they will start making parts again . Good thing i stocked up on parts from ddm . Now I just need 2 kits one to build and one to restore my old school baja
i don't support companies that cloned my friends parts. all experience we've had at the race track people showing up with rovans prove with out a doubt that rovans quality is very poor.
@@kpopRC that’d be cool….yeah I was really hoping for a 5t with a new paint scheme….but If they lost the molds….it probably is unlikely to happen…..I’m sure your a huge part of the reason why the 5b is re-released….your channel is probably the most Baja content focused channel out there….great job
So happy it's back . 🏁🏁🏁🏁. Thanks for the info!!! I live at the beach,so hopefully be able to get paddles. Also I can't decide on gas or electric. I do ride two stroke dirtbikes.
The biggest problem with the original baja was that it was an un-muffled weed-whacker...wanted a quiet and more powerful brushless system? Well you just had to wait...for clones to come out, cheap enough that you didn't mind throwing away the engine and buying an additional $600 worth of powertrain. The new flux kits being available are a massive game changer. A sub-$800 roller, ready for motor and electronics, makes this competitive with even-smaller-sized rollers from Arrma/Horizon. Move this release 5 years into the past, the RC world might've been completely different. Instead, I'm the only person in our group with a baja, and it's a brushless-converted clone...not to spite HPI, but because that was what was available. Really hope the 5b flux does well.
I still have my 5B SS. First thing I broke was a front arm and bulkhead. Bent the up turn on the chassis a little too. Not too hard of a crash. Fixed that and added a front chassis doubbler. Then I broke the "tuned pipe" it came with. The one that tucks behind the motor. Went to a can muffler then to a Victory muffled tuned pipe. That is still on but the front hanger is sorta broke. I have installed more upgrades over time but not from breakage. It's been a pretty tough rig. I stopped driving it due to a motor cut out issue. tracked it down to one of the "upgrades" I did. some kind of brass high flow fuel fitting for the tank. It was sucking in air on the fuel feed side. It's been so long now since I've run it the RX battery is bad and the front tires are rotten.
when it comes to things that will most likely break. Ive had these 1/5s electric and nitro. on a the baja platform, first thing that will break is the rear upper link, they break pretty easily and most people change them to aluminum. the second most likely thing to break is the drive shaft pins as I've broken a couple my self and the last thing is probably the clutch to wear out if you are racing it or you are hard on the throttle.
never had the rear upper link fail. maybe the bolt between the plastic end and arm. but that's a quick fix using a copper sleeve from the hpi shock to strengthen the upper arm... We stay away from everything aluminum except the clutch carrier. and race them VERY reliably.
When the manufacturers assemble rc cars and bolt everything together how are they able to not mark any of the bolts when tightening everything down? As soon as I need to replace something and use my tools they will mark the the nuts and I use expensive rc tools?when one buys a brand new rc all the nuts & bolts etc do not have a mark on them. How it that possible? Thanks
my mip's don't leave a mark. If you had to put 300 together, you actually engineer the assembly. They are using air drivers, that are torque specific. I bet those bolts/screws never see more than 8 ft-lbs.
I have a brand new Baja SS kit ,from what ,5years ago? .. still sitting in my living room never used, so glad I can now buy another one and beat the tar out of it, and get parts I guess.... you're all about the 5B so.. subscribed. 👍
I guess I either wait for HPI to retool the 5t or pass on these, I always wanted the Baja Bug but never could afford it, stadium trucks would be my other choice
do we know how long this will be sold for? the og baja stopped being sold for a while and its gonna take me a year to save up for all the stuff i want for when i go to order mine. i really hope it will still be in stock by then.
no idea. but hpi is under a new owner for these cars. so i boubt we'll see them stop production given how much investment went into bring it back. however. im not sure we'll see any new RND'd versions or evolution to the platform.
yeah totally. just like the Lexan molds were damaged and thrown out, so was all of the Saturn rocket infrastructure. gotta remember most systems back then were analogue. to re make what is needed to go back would take a full redesign. which is happening. i wish most would understand "lost the technology" means that no one was developing and updating after the appolo project was scrapped. most everything was recycled. NOT ALL.... go vist @CuriousMarc youtube channel to see them backwards engineer the Dsky guidance computer and other Apollo era tech. the schematics of which all exist and are public domain.
i doubt they will. maybe the aluminum clutch carrier. they used to have an upgraded version available. the ss was the same kit. it just came with the ss pipe.
@@kpopRC o ok thank you for the info, years ago I got a SS and it's had a hole punch of orange metal parts in it and I thought that was part of the SS package. I wish I never sold that thing. Time to get a new one. Just undesided over the eletric or 2 stroke.
Hpi says they lost the molds, but Rovan has clones of their original Short course (and Truck) bodies. Even Probodies has an unbreakable version. How hard is it really to make a reverse mold from a shell that was already made using a reverse mold
pretty hard. lol. actually really hard. the original company that produced all their components went under during covid. everything was lost. HPI has to think about cost, and profit. They probably spent more than they paid for hpi than it would cost to tool all the truck molds. Not sure why everyone thinks everything is so easy these days. just take a second to think about it. cloning shit is easy. designing things to be undercut by people who steal designs.... is the worst. don't support criminals.
Hopefully you got an esp ported 34cc from ddm lol. Once i went ported theres no way i could rip around stock again. Good pipe also adds insane amounts of power but they are also ridiculously loud. But for me i love the firework crackles at idle and insane power of my esp 34 with olimat tsk-b pipe.
Oh totally. i usually go for the OBR pro stocks. But this thing is bone stock super light. I think too much torque and it's just going to want to do donuts all day.
@@kpopRC i have mine super lightened it has carbon fiber and titanium everything. I get lots of grip especially on grass with rovan knobbys. I have a separate baja with less power set up for onroad it does burnouts and donuts but only has 30.5cc with lightweight piston. Time to start a new build with an actual hpi. Also dude i love your channel i feel the same way you do when i see and hold my buggies.
Always liked the Baja when I was a kid and now that I earn my own money, I might get one. Would love to go for a gas one, but I dont know where I can run it. How loud is a gas 1/5 vs a 1/8 nitro?
@@wades5thscaleforlife872 Know any good silenced pipes? I know about Victory RC and DDM supposedly had a silenced one aswell. I might go with the original HPI Hi Flow exhaust and a Rovan silencer.
I love the hpi baja.. I have 2 of them so dont get me wrong but I believe the kracken vesla will just destroy the baja on and off track.. I am however curious to see how many thousands of dollars it will take me to build a full race vesla vs my full race baja..glad to see them back tho.. I need parts..lol
it's only a motor plate and a longer radio box really. I dont' know if they are going to sell conversion kits. i assume that's probably going to happen. DDM might even piece it together.
we have helped many people with clones at the track. and no, they aren't faster. they shatter. because they only make them out of one blend of plastic. the real baja has over 4 different types of plastics engineered to be stronger. Rovan just stole the designs and made them as cheap as possible, helping put hpi out of business.
I mean they are completely different. BUT look exactly the same. It might be due to the creator of the baja and the ultima scorpion and the optima for kyosho are the same dude. Akira Kogawa. he lives in LA now.
I've had B5 clone made by roven It his head the c*** kicked out of it for about 4 years no and the only thing I replaced was the transmission... I recently have done a bunch of upgbabes but it's been pretty Is reliable The one thing I can say about them get a new radio for it do not use the 1 that it comes with they are very cheap and you don't have the range
I’m over here trying to decide if it’s worth the price difference to buy a hpi vs the king motors cars we’ve been using and been happy with as the donor considering we use so little of the original car in dirt oval
that's really up to you. HPI sponsors events rovan does not. Rovan also clones every American aftermarket rc manufacturer, putting them out of business hpi included. Rovan plastic has so much glass fiber in it, it's laughable. And tbh. i don't think it's that much cheaper as when hpi discontinued rovan upped their prices. leaches is what they are.
$750 fir just the kit !! Seems a bit pricey, specifically when you could buy an RTR version for around $1,000 back when Tower Hobbies had them. I want one but $700-$800 for just the kit……..
i feel like budget baja. would be to buy a used one, and now you have all the stock parts availability to buy things like rear hubs. and diff cups. if you want to keep things on the cheap. they were 1200 rtr right? and the ss kit was 900. am i remembering wrong? and that was 10 years ago.
Why did they rerelese it with faulty plastic clutch cover cmon and I'm guilty of purchasing a rovan baja 5b about 4 years ago 😆 its flawless with all kinds of mods
it's all good dude. For a while it was the only one you could get. I think hpi priority was just to get the kit out right now. not to upgrade anything.
WELL I HAVE A ROVAN 305A 30.5cc and for more then 250$ less it comes with an engine that has a race tuned pipe on it and im breaking every thing but i took a year off so im learning how to drive again n its been a while since i had a 1/5 scale the one i had was the turnigy trailblazer the green n black 4wd buggy n a gangster with the hpi moved across the street from me n started talking s#$% n racing me n there was another older gang that rented the other side of the town house i lived in n they all were under the illusion that this new s%$^ talker could beat me n people were making bets n all that until finally he told the head gang guy he didnt have any cars that could beat any of my cars n not even my 1/16 ... he would watch me drive my cars in the middle of the night from his kids room window upstairs n reality hit him that he couldnt even beat my 1/16 ford fiesta by turnigy not the traxxas ken block but a clone n mine was faster then the traxxas .. every car i owned that had a rival car at traxxas that was fast i made mine faster then the traxxas ... i was a product specialist at hobbyking.com n i wanted a baja 5b or 5t but i didnt have 1500$ dollars for just 1 car oh the things the 5b would drag race n win like cr 250 in a dirt drag race n win or ninjas coming out of a park n muscle cars n it beat them all... n now i have the rovan n i love it but its a money pit lol n i cant wait to race a hpi or any other 5th scale n im almost decided on what motor ill put in it n what esc to replace the gas engine and im all ready looking for new engine to replace the stock one ... n the rovan isnt even trying to claim licensed hpi any thing nore are they in any competition with them cuz i asked about sponoring n they dont sponsor any one... as for me though ill be ready to race a hpi in the next month or so and im sure my set up will be more then enough to make easy work of it i took it to the track yesterday n for the first time trying any jumps i almost hit the 1st triple on my last run n i hit the double every time i tried .. but enough for now i love racing n these big 1/5 scale cars are a blast....
rovan stole my friends designs and put them out of business. don't justify their criminal nature. they are trash and ill never support them. also after helping many that tried to save 250 dollars at the track fix their shit clones. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt the rovan cars are extremely sub par. how about you support designers and innovators not chinese clone companies that single handedly DISTROYED a massive rc Scene in the stats. if you think they helped make it affordable. in reality they KILLED the whole community and 3rd party usa manufacturered parts. it's honestly quite sad to see brand loyalty for a company that's whole business model is to put designers out of business. also im sorry if you had no idea. hpi quite literally stop making everything years ago.
@@kpopRC rovan didn't kill hpi hpi previous ceo killed hpi by stealing money from the company for many years and if wasn't for rovan the entire baja platform would be dead now also roavn option upgrade parts are now better then hpi
yeah cool. that's fair. never say never. company is coming back from the dead. just like originally it only released the baja first for the first 2 yerars. lets give them at least 2 years.
people gonna hate but as an owner of an original legit hpi baja 5bss kit i can tell you it was trash, shock bodies, tires, arms, driveshafts all failed DURING the break in period as done PER manual ( yes i still have it but half of it has been upgraded to fix the failures). all my friends went king motor and rovan and NONE of them ever had the failures i had with the genuine baja. so i honestly wouldnt touch one of these re-releases especially considering the price stated in this video is MORE than i paid for my original one at DDM
we raced these. we had over 50 real hpi bajas racing in our series of 25 races a year for 5 years. When rovan stole the designs and started to make their injection molds out of one overly glassed plastic we started to see a few rovans pop up at the track, about 5 or 6, we'd always laugh when not one... not one! Could make it around our track with out shattering. The most common failure was the junk wheels that would shatter at the wheel nut. The next thing that would break was the whole front end. would bend about 10 degrees, if it were a 5t the front end shattered and cut the hand of one marshal. Don't give me this shit. The terrible clones coming out of china were NOTHING compared to what came out of Taiwan. NOT TO MENTION how these Clone companies put friends with families out of business by cloning their parts. So no I'll never buy that shit, because i support designers not cloners. period. The king motor engines cylinder coatings flake. THEY FLAKE. Still to this day, the fastest baja around the track was a bone stock one. Original hpi baja rear axles were too small and would twist, something that was remedied on vers2.0. because HPI had to innovate, not steal designs and undercut those who actually thought up this car in the first place. clones brought down the biggest rc community in history. You think kingmotors or rovan sponsored any events? no no, they were more likely to get stopped at the border with a bunch of fake hand bags. enjoy your clone but remember those dicks at rovan/km are thieves.
This thing is not worth the money, no disrespect to HPI but the clones are sourced with the same parts if not better. While HPI has been dead, Rovan and King Motor have still developed the platform and come out with upgrades. Now you can get a RTR with a 30.5cc for $500, aluminum clutch housing out of the box, stronger wheels, and much stronger arms. And these clones have had these "new HPI" upgraded driveshafts for years. Why spend the extra $250 for a roller that doesn't even come with any electronics?? Is the fascination just because it says HPI on the box and a few of the parts?
because one it's not a stolen design, two, it doesn't shatter like glass. and 3 rovan and king motors have done nothing but clone other peoples r and d. all those upgrades you speak of are clones of TR team chase and others. You do you.
I have an original 5b and a rovan. I bet you can guess which one has more issues....hint it's the rovan. Maybe it will be cheaper but long term; it costs more and needs more maintenance to keep alive.
You get what you pay for with the clones. Chineseum metal and rusty parts , the screws. Nuts and bolts strip easy and the motors are sub-par at best. Tires are pretty good. The fkysky radios are damm good for the price, the shocks suck and leak I could go on and on . I run in sand my old hpi loved the sand my clones lol not so much . 😅 I'll gladly pay for quality with the hpi .
First off, that’s a straight lie on the plastics for the clones. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. That’s a rovan 9mm cv axle you showed on the new one btw. They are made in the same area, China, different tooling but same materials. The clones are way way better for the price and even come with necessary aluminum upgrades. Mine is 5 years old, hardly any issues. Don’t spew lies man. Only complete idiots are going to pay $750 for a car that will have to be upgraded straight out of the box to bash hard with. But you know, common sense is not everyone’s strong suite.
1/8 arrma price for baja 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏽♂️. A good engine will cost you 6-700. Then the overpriced 750 for kit. Easy 1500 in the kit on low end. Just wait for losi 5b to come in. Much better.
what is a good engine to you? this baja is so light, and it's rwd. you don't want a reed engine inhere. a simple 29cc 299 dollar motor will do just fine! Hell ddm even has deals every now and then. Even the obr long block isn't close to 600. you sir need a new engine dealer.
@@kpopRC im going obr or Taylor 35 minimum but I don’t race. I bash only. Anything under that is slow. But that’s just me. And a zanoah is 300 then 200 for good pipe so that’s 500 alone. So idk we’re u get 1/8 arms prices. Maybe just the overpriced kit only is the highest 1/8 arms rtr price.
749.99 FOR A KIT NO MTR /ENG OR ELC UM I DONT KNOW?? $$$ REALLY WHATS BETTER ABOUT IT??? I SEE NOTHING FROM HPI, SORRY BUT HPI NEEDS A BETTER VENDORS /INVESTORS!! BE COOL IF HPI CAME OUT WITH A 4WD BAJA THE PAST AS BEEN PLAYED OUT ALREADY! I SEE NOTHING NEW OR BETTER ABOUT IT.
Just buy a rovan end of discussion 🤣 it's rtr and you're gonna upgrade it anyway but they're solid I've beat the snot out of a few and haven't broken anything
You saw how many baja 5b's we've been around right? this video shows how many. 100s i have owned now 8 baja's. We race at several tracks for years. And have helped clone owners try to get their cars around our track. In my experience (of which is HEFTY) clone quality is SHIT. and you trying to convince people to buy counterfeit products proves how little you care about people who actually invest in ideas, and design. These Chinese clone companies are a scourge to rc everywhere, and you're a pusher. go peddle rovans somewhere else. we're here to talk about HPI not about how selfish you are in cutting costs and putting original designers out of business. SHAME. end of discussion.
I don't get it. I'm into 1/10, and I can't stand the noise tiny gas motors make. I suppose the electric one could be fun, but look at it. There's no imagination there, for me. It looks incredibly dull, unfinished and lazy. Yall have fun tho! 👍 🤪
in my experience. in this video you can see we've been around A LOT of Baja's. the clones are terrible quality most have never made it a single lap around our track. Stop peddling knock offs.
Racing dirt oval and subjecting them to forces they weren’t designed for and using them as the base car the old hpi car and king motors are pretty even followed by rovan and tit racing brings up the rear by being junk as expected since tit makes good tires and that’s about it (well the pink foams are good for the RR tire and there flimsy axle boots are nice because they don’t restrict movement any and are easier to install and cheap enough to constantly throw away)
wha? phatdad dog bones are like 100% stronger than what's on the baja even right now. what are you even saying? should we ask phatdad? hpi made them fatter. that's it. Phatdad is a loyal hpi supporter. don't get your shit twisted.
@@kpopRC I didn't say they ripped off or are Making Phatdad Driveshafts. Tom would be PISSED. lolololol I am just saying they look like they are as big around as what PhatDads dogbones were. I know Tom. I know the baja. I was a Huge member on HBF from the start but around 2013 got out of the RC Scene. I also know what I am saying which is the new ones are pretty large in diameter. Especially considering the Gen1s that snapped far too often. Just a General comment on the size of the new drive shafts, which is why I said it looks like HPI coppied Phatdads shafts for this new kit. No slamming anyone man. In fact. I think I have a set of Phatdads here still. Also have couple Hostile Spurs and a Turtle Pinion for his v2 carriers. Also still have the Paddles and Razors from my Hooters Baja. My HBF handle is Timmahhs5b.
What motor do you recommend? (Was hoping this would be one of the 10 questions you answered). Gonna preorder one today from my LHS or Cardinal...
EDIT: Pre-ordered from Cardinal!!! So stoked!!!
I recommend the Zenoah 29cc up to 32cc 4bolt 2 strokes. We'll be talking engines next episode. the stock exhaust will do for a while you'll have more torque than you need for a while. ha!
@@kpopRC Thank You! Lucky for me, DDM is local and only a 15 minute drive from me!
OH SHIT... that's dangerous.
@@kpopRC Hopefully you will do a video on what electronics you recommend too. I was gonna copy Matt's setup, but can't afford $450 for a steering servo...
@@kpopRC i got a few questions, 1 what diff oil do you recommend? brand wise is what im asking mostly on that one tho, i know shock oil can slightly differ between brands so i assume the same for diff oil, 2 any minor upgrades in say the handling department you recommend on 5bs as a whole?, 3 tyres, should i swap out the front tyres since i can't find the stock tyres anywhere in the uk as the after market twin blade ones look better for sand than the stock ones, but im mostly tarmac and grass which the stock ones would handle better and 4 what is the best aftermarket shock oil you recommend? as the stock one is all well and good, but if my shocks spring a leak and/or i have to replace them, i can't find the stock shock oil either....and as i mentioned on the previous vid...knowing my luck...
Got my 5T new in 2009 for £999 sold it in 2013. It was a beast everyone loved it, the sound and scale was amasing but now I need electric for ease of use and less maintenance
Cheers boiz ! Man i really like those kind of video, short , full of useful information.. only downside is the fact that now i need one of those !
Kit version seems so nice to build !
yeah man. it's pretty amazing.
Can't wait to order. Bought my Baja in 2013, has been rebuilt 3 times and then I retired her. Now I can have 2. This is awesome!!
Good info in the video! I like the behind the scenes info. It’s very cool that you were able to get in on the kick-off of the Re-Re.
I think I was getting out of Baja’s as you were getting into them around 2011/2012.
I’ve since picked up a Re-Re flux and started digging in on the build. I haven’t touched a Baja since I got out of them, so I have to dust off the cobwebs and try to remember the platform.
Excellent video! Loving this series so much.
This was my grail when I was a kid, now here I am at 27 getting back into RC and the Baja has returned to shelves. I'm gonna try everything in my power to get a Flux version of this buggy. I would love to restart my channel next year with one of these haha.
dooo it! haha!
I always loved the Baja. If I find a place to drive one, I see this in my future.
Cool video buddy! It's not my thing but answered a few of those forever cycled questions!
We need more nitros, as well
Simple answer to no10 is YES.
I have 4 bajas at the moment yes rovan, king motors are alot cheaper but the quality difference in the HPI baja is second to none.
It's silly to think about it but you can feel the quality difference just by touching them.
I want the 5t to come back so bad thank you for this video!
something tells me that won't happen. which is too bad. There are conversion kits from rovan that are brittle. Then again, the new savages are a far cry from what they where 15 years ago.
Great video KPop! Cheers to beers 🍺🍺
thanks bud! I still have to send you stuff! I haven't forgotten.
@@kpopRC No worries man, I've been out of town a bit which is why I've missed some streams. Focus on the 5th scale stuff first this is awesome stuff!
It'll be badass if hpi releases the 5MT monster truck kit! Gas and electric kit!
Excellent video brother!👍👍👍👍
I was just about to rebuild my second with rovan parts then I heard about the proper rerelease. I love my SS and can't wait to have 2 runners.
Awesome video again.
I am curious are you going to try and start racing this Baja like the old days? Loved all the videos you made back then!
lets hope. i was capturing what was happening. if it starts up again ill be there with a cam for sure.
@@kpopRC great stuff! Really enjoy your channel and what you bring to the RC community!
Lots of aftermarket support for the baja. Sadly alot of the original guys who were making aftermarket stuff the the hpi have slowly faded away . Hopefully with the hpi coming back they will start making parts again . Good thing i stocked up on parts from ddm . Now I just need 2 kits one to build and one to restore my old school baja
Totally! I hope it gets back to it's glory days!
@@kpopRC I think it will
Get the Rovan, just got mine and it's a beast, for 420 almost err it is amazing
i don't support companies that cloned my friends parts. all experience we've had at the race track people showing up with rovans prove with out a doubt that rovans quality is very poor.
Might go for an electric one. I've got two gas one's (original and a rovan) and have wondered about an electric one 🤔
Shout out to Cardinal racing for being the first to accept pre-orders🤙😎
They got my pre-order!
I got my Gas SBK for £679($833.62). A massive saving of £95.99($117.85). It's the first RC car that I've ever bought.
That’s extremely sad that the 5t and 5sc might not be coming back….I was really hopeful
i bet they'll end up coming out with the parts trees. then we gotta convince woodster widelidz to make more runs of their excellent body.
@@kpopRC that’d be cool….yeah I was really hoping for a 5t with a new paint scheme….but If they lost the molds….it probably is unlikely to happen…..I’m sure your a huge part of the reason why the 5b is re-released….your channel is probably the most Baja content focused channel out there….great job
So happy it's back . 🏁🏁🏁🏁. Thanks for the info!!! I live at the beach,so hopefully be able to get paddles. Also I can't decide on gas or electric. I do ride two stroke dirtbikes.
they will stock paddles. that was confirmed!
@@kpopRC Sweet, Thank you!
The biggest problem with the original baja was that it was an un-muffled weed-whacker...wanted a quiet and more powerful brushless system? Well you just had to wait...for clones to come out, cheap enough that you didn't mind throwing away the engine and buying an additional $600 worth of powertrain.
The new flux kits being available are a massive game changer. A sub-$800 roller, ready for motor and electronics, makes this competitive with even-smaller-sized rollers from Arrma/Horizon. Move this release 5 years into the past, the RC world might've been completely different. Instead, I'm the only person in our group with a baja, and it's a brushless-converted clone...not to spite HPI, but because that was what was available.
Really hope the 5b flux does well.
taylor rc is the way to go
Cool vid, good answers.
I still have my 5B SS. First thing I broke was a front arm and bulkhead. Bent the up turn on the chassis a little too. Not too hard of a crash. Fixed that and added a front chassis doubbler. Then I broke the "tuned pipe" it came with. The one that tucks behind the motor. Went to a can muffler then to a Victory muffled tuned pipe. That is still on but the front hanger is sorta broke. I have installed more upgrades over time but not from breakage. It's been a pretty tough rig.
I stopped driving it due to a motor cut out issue. tracked it down to one of the "upgrades" I did. some kind of brass high flow fuel fitting for the tank. It was sucking in air on the fuel feed side. It's been so long now since I've run it the RX battery is bad and the front tires are rotten.
i mean. sounds like a cheap fix. ha ha!
@@kpopRC If HPI was smart they would release their own 4wd kit for the 5b chassis. Like one of the clone MFGs.
If HPI releases an electric version of the RS4 super nitro I'll be all over it...
Wish i could buy it right now, specially the flux/electric version
it's coming man. ha!
Literally weeks away!
So where did rovan come from? They call there terminator 5th scale a baja 5t, so also about the only place I can get replacement bodies for my hpi 5t
when it comes to things that will most likely break. Ive had these 1/5s electric and nitro. on a the baja platform, first thing that will break is the rear upper link, they break pretty easily and most people change them to aluminum. the second most likely thing to break is the drive shaft pins as I've broken a couple my self and the last thing is probably the clutch to wear out if you are racing it or you are hard on the throttle.
never had the rear upper link fail. maybe the bolt between the plastic end and arm. but that's a quick fix using a copper sleeve from the hpi shock to strengthen the upper arm... We stay away from everything aluminum except the clutch carrier. and race them VERY reliably.
When the manufacturers assemble rc cars and bolt everything together how are they able to not mark any of the bolts when tightening everything down? As soon as I need to replace something and use my tools they will mark the the nuts and I use expensive rc tools?when one buys a brand new rc all the nuts & bolts etc do not have a mark on them. How it that possible? Thanks
my mip's don't leave a mark. If you had to put 300 together, you actually engineer the assembly. They are using air drivers, that are torque specific. I bet those bolts/screws never see more than 8 ft-lbs.
I have a brand new Baja SS kit ,from what ,5years ago? .. still sitting in my living room never used, so glad I can now buy another one and beat the tar out of it, and get parts I guess.... you're all about the 5B so.. subscribed. 👍
thanks bud! more to come!
I guess I either wait for HPI to retool the 5t or pass on these, I always wanted the Baja Bug but never could afford it, stadium trucks would be my other choice
If a 5tsc is what your looking for maybe wait a few years. they might bring them back. probably with a new body design. ha.
Man that sucks they aren't coming back with the 5t or 5sc I love my 5t and never got the SC but would buy it for sure if they come back
it honestly depends on how popular the rerelease is. im sure if it's viable investment for them. they'll make it happen.
@@kpopRC I'm thinking of getting both for my channel I have the old ss kit already but never have enough bajas
do we know how long this will be sold for? the og baja stopped being sold for a while and its gonna take me a year to save up for all the stuff i want for when i go to order mine. i really hope it will still be in stock by then.
no idea. but hpi is under a new owner for these cars. so i boubt we'll see them stop production given how much investment went into bring it back. however. im not sure we'll see any new RND'd versions or evolution to the platform.
Don't forget about outerwear covers for the air filter to keep dirt out.
Same as shock covers, and we all know how " cheap " shocks are 💸
VERY TRUE! I TOTALLY FORGOT yes. .. a must.
5t is like going to the moon we cannot go,back we lost the technology
yeah totally. just like the Lexan molds were damaged and thrown out, so was all of the Saturn rocket infrastructure. gotta remember most systems back then were analogue. to re make what is needed to go back would take a full redesign. which is happening. i wish most would understand "lost the technology" means that no one was developing and updating after the appolo project was scrapped. most everything was recycled. NOT ALL.... go vist @CuriousMarc youtube channel to see them backwards engineer the Dsky guidance computer and other Apollo era tech. the schematics of which all exist and are public domain.
Do you know if they will come out with a SS version with all the upgraded metal parts?
i doubt they will. maybe the aluminum clutch carrier. they used to have an upgraded version available. the ss was the same kit. it just came with the ss pipe.
@@kpopRC o ok thank you for the info, years ago I got a SS and it's had a hole punch of orange metal parts in it and I thought that was part of the SS package. I wish I never sold that thing. Time to get a new one. Just undesided over the eletric or 2 stroke.
Do they come with engines
they could of updated the rear tires with a way better tread which actually grips
agreed. i think they had a hell of a time getting this back to manufacturing. once they get comfortable it's easier to make changes.
@@kpopRC yeah no doubt
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what would be the perfect electric motor and gearing for it?
Don't wanna over power it and break some other stuff :)
this is probably going to have to be a SBG question. he's got the electric vers. i have no experience with electric bajas.
Hpi says they lost the molds, but Rovan has clones of their original Short course (and Truck) bodies. Even Probodies has an unbreakable version.
How hard is it really to make a reverse mold from a shell that was already made using a reverse mold
pretty hard. lol. actually really hard. the original company that produced all their components went under during covid. everything was lost. HPI has to think about cost, and profit. They probably spent more than they paid for hpi than it would cost to tool all the truck molds. Not sure why everyone thinks everything is so easy these days. just take a second to think about it. cloning shit is easy. designing things to be undercut by people who steal designs.... is the worst. don't support criminals.
@@kpopRC I guess if you outsource all of the everything. That would get expensive
Hopefully you got an esp ported 34cc from ddm lol. Once i went ported theres no way i could rip around stock again. Good pipe also adds insane amounts of power but they are also ridiculously loud. But for me i love the firework crackles at idle and insane power of my esp 34 with olimat tsk-b pipe.
Oh totally. i usually go for the OBR pro stocks. But this thing is bone stock super light. I think too much torque and it's just going to want to do donuts all day.
@@kpopRC i have mine super lightened it has carbon fiber and titanium everything. I get lots of grip especially on grass with rovan knobbys. I have a separate baja with less power set up for onroad it does burnouts and donuts but only has 30.5cc with lightweight piston. Time to start a new build with an actual hpi. Also dude i love your channel i feel the same way you do when i see and hold my buggies.
Always liked the Baja when I was a kid and now that I earn my own money, I might get one. Would love to go for a gas one, but I dont know where I can run it. How loud is a gas 1/5 vs a 1/8 nitro?
i'd say it's quieter than a nitro. It's basically a weed wacker.
Also depends on your pipe if you get a unslicenced pipe there load but if you get slicenced there like your weed eater
@@wades5thscaleforlife872 Know any good silenced pipes? I know about Victory RC and DDM supposedly had a silenced one aswell.
I might go with the original HPI Hi Flow exhaust and a Rovan silencer.
@@xXYannuschXx victory makes a good pipe and bartolone put the bart will probably be loader I would say I don't run them my self
We run the boxes on dirt oval for noise reasons
I would like to see the 5sc roller for electric set up
same!
Do they have strong part support?
it's the reason the released this kit. If you check out ddm they already have all the parts images and prices up for the newer stock parts.
Well Let’s show some love!, Who wants a 5t body?.
I love the hpi baja.. I have 2 of them so dont get me wrong but I believe the kracken vesla will just destroy the baja on and off track.. I am however curious to see how many thousands of dollars it will take me to build a full race vesla vs my full race baja..glad to see them back tho.. I need parts..lol
it's an exciting time for fifth scale! Looks super wide and a bit goofy, but the vesla will certainly grow on me. it's mean looking!
HPI COME OUT WITH A 4WD HPI BAJA MONEY IN THE BANK !!
Tune pipe !! ....melt everything then upgrades!!
best comment ever.
so looks like you have to buy an entire new Baja platform for the electric version
it's only a motor plate and a longer radio box really. I dont' know if they are going to sell conversion kits. i assume that's probably going to happen. DDM might even piece it together.
All plastic parts with bearings wil get hot. Melt and breakdown. So those parts needs to be alu.
I think thw rovan baja is faster and the clutch carrier on the clone is of metal
i don't support companies that steal designs and put friends companies out of business by stealing their designs. Rovan are crooks.
we have helped many people with clones at the track. and no, they aren't faster. they shatter. because they only make them out of one blend of plastic. the real baja has over 4 different types of plastics engineered to be stronger. Rovan just stole the designs and made them as cheap as possible, helping put hpi out of business.
Plot twist. The HPI Baja is a 1/5th scale Ultima Mid. Compare the two.
I mean they are completely different. BUT look exactly the same. It might be due to the creator of the baja and the ultima scorpion and the optima for kyosho are the same dude. Akira Kogawa. he lives in LA now.
🤘y'all have a badass day🤘🍻🤘
thanks bud!
@@kpopRC yeah man 🤘
I've had B5 clone made by roven It his head the c*** kicked out of it for about 4 years no and the only thing I replaced was the transmission... I recently have done a bunch of upgbabes but it's been pretty Is reliable The one thing I can say about them get a new radio for it do not use the 1 that it comes with they are very cheap and you don't have the range
I’m over here trying to decide if it’s worth the price difference to buy a hpi vs the king motors cars we’ve been using and been happy with as the donor considering we use so little of the original car in dirt oval
that's really up to you. HPI sponsors events rovan does not. Rovan also clones every American aftermarket rc manufacturer, putting them out of business hpi included. Rovan plastic has so much glass fiber in it, it's laughable. And tbh. i don't think it's that much cheaper as when hpi discontinued rovan upped their prices. leaches is what they are.
Its capitalism....
Don't complain...
Australian price $1269
thanks mark!
$750 fir just the kit !! Seems a bit pricey, specifically when you could buy an RTR version for around $1,000 back when Tower Hobbies had them. I want one but $700-$800 for just the kit……..
i feel like budget baja. would be to buy a used one, and now you have all the stock parts availability to buy things like rear hubs. and diff cups. if you want to keep things on the cheap. they were 1200 rtr right? and the ss kit was 900. am i remembering wrong? and that was 10 years ago.
Exactly just get a rovan unless you have money to blow and care about a name all this stuff is made out of the country anyway
Why did they rerelese it with faulty plastic clutch cover cmon and I'm guilty of purchasing a rovan baja 5b about 4 years ago 😆 its flawless with all kinds of mods
it's all good dude. For a while it was the only one you could get. I think hpi priority was just to get the kit out right now. not to upgrade anything.
WELL I HAVE A ROVAN 305A 30.5cc and for more then 250$ less it comes with an engine that has a race tuned pipe on it and im breaking every thing but i took a year off so im learning how to drive again n its been a while since i had a 1/5 scale the one i had was the turnigy trailblazer the green n black 4wd buggy n a gangster with the hpi moved across the street from me n started talking s#$% n racing me n there was another older gang that rented the other side of the town house i lived in n they all were under the illusion that this new s%$^ talker could beat me n people were making bets n all that until finally he told the head gang guy he didnt have any cars that could beat any of my cars n not even my 1/16 ... he would watch me drive my cars in the middle of the night from his kids room window upstairs n reality hit him that he couldnt even beat my 1/16 ford fiesta by turnigy not the traxxas ken block but a clone n mine was faster then the traxxas .. every car i owned that had a rival car at traxxas that was fast i made mine faster then the traxxas ... i was a product specialist at hobbyking.com n i wanted a baja 5b or 5t but i didnt have 1500$ dollars for just 1 car oh the things the 5b would drag race n win like cr 250 in a dirt drag race n win or ninjas coming out of a park n muscle cars n it beat them all... n now i have the rovan n i love it but its a money pit lol n i cant wait to race a hpi or any other 5th scale n im almost decided on what motor ill put in it n what esc to replace the gas engine and im all ready looking for new engine to replace the stock one ... n the rovan isnt even trying to claim licensed hpi any thing nore are they in any competition with them cuz i asked about sponoring n they dont sponsor any one... as for me though ill be ready to race a hpi in the next month or so and im sure my set up will be more then enough to make easy work of it i took it to the track yesterday n for the first time trying any jumps i almost hit the 1st triple on my last run n i hit the double every time i tried .. but enough for now i love racing n these big 1/5 scale cars are a blast....
rovan stole my friends designs and put them out of business. don't justify their criminal nature. they are trash and ill never support them. also after helping many that tried to save 250 dollars at the track fix their shit clones. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt the rovan cars are extremely sub par. how about you support designers and innovators not chinese clone companies that single handedly DISTROYED a massive rc Scene in the stats. if you think they helped make it affordable. in reality they KILLED the whole community and 3rd party usa manufacturered parts. it's honestly quite sad to see brand loyalty for a company that's whole business model is to put designers out of business. also im sorry if you had no idea. hpi quite literally stop making everything years ago.
@@kpopRC rovan didn't kill hpi hpi previous ceo killed hpi by stealing money from the company for many years and if wasn't for rovan the entire baja platform would be dead now also roavn option upgrade parts are now better then hpi
Not bringing back the truck? I guess I'm not interested then. Never have been a buggy guy.
yeah cool. that's fair. never say never. company is coming back from the dead. just like originally it only released the baja first for the first 2 yerars. lets give them at least 2 years.
people gonna hate but as an owner of an original legit hpi baja 5bss kit i can tell you it was trash, shock bodies, tires, arms, driveshafts all failed DURING the break in period as done PER manual ( yes i still have it but half of it has been upgraded to fix the failures). all my friends went king motor and rovan and NONE of them ever had the failures i had with the genuine baja. so i honestly wouldnt touch one of these re-releases especially considering the price stated in this video is MORE than i paid for my original one at DDM
we raced these. we had over 50 real hpi bajas racing in our series of 25 races a year for 5 years. When rovan stole the designs and started to make their injection molds out of one overly glassed plastic we started to see a few rovans pop up at the track, about 5 or 6, we'd always laugh when not one... not one! Could make it around our track with out shattering. The most common failure was the junk wheels that would shatter at the wheel nut. The next thing that would break was the whole front end. would bend about 10 degrees, if it were a 5t the front end shattered and cut the hand of one marshal. Don't give me this shit. The terrible clones coming out of china were NOTHING compared to what came out of Taiwan. NOT TO MENTION how these Clone companies put friends with families out of business by cloning their parts. So no I'll never buy that shit, because i support designers not cloners. period. The king motor engines cylinder coatings flake. THEY FLAKE. Still to this day, the fastest baja around the track was a bone stock one. Original hpi baja rear axles were too small and would twist, something that was remedied on vers2.0. because HPI had to innovate, not steal designs and undercut those who actually thought up this car in the first place. clones brought down the biggest rc community in history. You think kingmotors or rovan sponsored any events? no no, they were more likely to get stopped at the border with a bunch of fake hand bags. enjoy your clone but remember those dicks at rovan/km are thieves.
This thing is not worth the money, no disrespect to HPI but the clones are sourced with the same parts if not better. While HPI has been dead, Rovan and King Motor have still developed the platform and come out with upgrades. Now you can get a RTR with a 30.5cc for $500, aluminum clutch housing out of the box, stronger wheels, and much stronger arms. And these clones have had these "new HPI" upgraded driveshafts for years. Why spend the extra $250 for a roller that doesn't even come with any electronics?? Is the fascination just because it says HPI on the box and a few of the parts?
because one it's not a stolen design, two, it doesn't shatter like glass. and 3 rovan and king motors have done nothing but clone other peoples r and d. all those upgrades you speak of are clones of TR team chase and others. You do you.
I have an original 5b and a rovan. I bet you can guess which one has more issues....hint it's the rovan. Maybe it will be cheaper but long term; it costs more and needs more maintenance to keep alive.
Sorry but I have to side with hyster16t on this one. No disrespect kpoprc . But he's right man.
You get what you pay for with the clones. Chineseum metal and rusty parts , the screws. Nuts and bolts strip easy and the motors are sub-par at best. Tires are pretty good. The fkysky radios are damm good for the price, the shocks suck and leak I could go on and on . I run in sand my old hpi loved the sand my clones lol not so much . 😅 I'll gladly pay for quality with the hpi .
Wow, my comment is gone....
Nice.
Will never come close to a losi 5ive t
Very, different cars. rwd makes better 4wd drivers.
Super Thicc!
thanks eric!
First off, that’s a straight lie on the plastics for the clones. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. That’s a rovan 9mm cv axle you showed on the new one btw. They are made in the same area, China, different tooling but same materials. The clones are way way better for the price and even come with necessary aluminum upgrades. Mine is 5 years old, hardly any issues. Don’t spew lies man. Only complete idiots are going to pay $750 for a car that will have to be upgraded straight out of the box to bash hard with. But you know, common sense is not everyone’s strong suite.
1/8 arrma price for baja 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏽♂️. A good engine will cost you 6-700. Then the overpriced 750 for kit. Easy 1500 in the kit on low end. Just wait for losi 5b to come in. Much better.
what is a good engine to you? this baja is so light, and it's rwd. you don't want a reed engine inhere. a simple 29cc 299 dollar motor will do just fine! Hell ddm even has deals every now and then. Even the obr long block isn't close to 600. you sir need a new engine dealer.
just for context. all the winners of the 5b class at the canadian fifthscale nationals has been 23cc 2bolt cy engines.
@@kpopRC im going obr or Taylor 35 minimum but I don’t race. I bash only. Anything under that is slow. But that’s just me. And a zanoah is 300 then 200 for good pipe so that’s 500 alone. So idk we’re u get 1/8 arms prices. Maybe just the overpriced kit only is the highest 1/8 arms rtr price.
Arrma*
It's very over priced for Europe.. I buy baja 5b 2.0 RTR before 7yrs for 850 euro
7years. A lot has changed in 7 years.
Yes of course... Many changes for all the world but baja only change is the front hubs... (No e clip ) 😂
food is overpriced….🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
749.99 FOR A KIT NO MTR /ENG OR ELC UM I DONT KNOW?? $$$ REALLY WHATS BETTER ABOUT IT??? I SEE NOTHING FROM HPI, SORRY BUT HPI NEEDS A BETTER VENDORS /INVESTORS!! BE COOL IF HPI CAME OUT WITH A 4WD BAJA THE PAST AS BEEN PLAYED OUT ALREADY! I SEE NOTHING NEW OR BETTER ABOUT IT.
Just buy a rovan end of discussion 🤣 it's rtr and you're gonna upgrade it anyway but they're solid I've beat the snot out of a few and haven't broken anything
The king motor are a better car even thought they’re made by same people
@@54raceman same thing they're just a upgraded rovan
You saw how many baja 5b's we've been around right? this video shows how many. 100s i have owned now 8 baja's. We race at several tracks for years. And have helped clone owners try to get their cars around our track. In my experience (of which is HEFTY) clone quality is SHIT. and you trying to convince people to buy counterfeit products proves how little you care about people who actually invest in ideas, and design. These Chinese clone companies are a scourge to rc everywhere, and you're a pusher. go peddle rovans somewhere else. we're here to talk about HPI not about how selfish you are in cutting costs and putting original designers out of business. SHAME. end of discussion.
I don't get it. I'm into 1/10, and I can't stand the noise tiny gas motors make. I suppose the electric one could be fun, but look at it. There's no imagination there, for me. It looks incredibly dull, unfinished and lazy. Yall have fun tho! 👍 🤪
try one, gas 2 stroke. then we'll talk. (this is not as noisy as nitro)
@@kpopRC fine, I guess I have to now..
dont buy hpi overpriced crap, cheapest rovan baja is best option
in my experience. in this video you can see we've been around A LOT of Baja's. the clones are terrible quality most have never made it a single lap around our track. Stop peddling knock offs.
Racing dirt oval and subjecting them to forces they weren’t designed for and using them as the base car the old hpi car and king motors are pretty even followed by rovan and tit racing brings up the rear by being junk as expected since tit makes good tires and that’s about it (well the pink foams are good for the RR tire and there flimsy axle boots are nice because they don’t restrict movement any and are easier to install and cheap enough to constantly throw away)
I agree totally. Paying for a brand name is not a smart move....
food is overpriced…..
PhatDad Dog Bones is what HPI copied for this Repop.
wha? phatdad dog bones are like 100% stronger than what's on the baja even right now. what are you even saying? should we ask phatdad? hpi made them fatter. that's it. Phatdad is a loyal hpi supporter. don't get your shit twisted.
@@kpopRC I didn't say they ripped off or are Making Phatdad Driveshafts. Tom would be PISSED. lolololol
I am just saying they look like they are as big around as what PhatDads dogbones were.
I know Tom. I know the baja. I was a Huge member on HBF from the start but around 2013 got out of the RC Scene.
I also know what I am saying which is the new ones are pretty large in diameter. Especially considering the Gen1s that snapped far too often. Just a General comment on the size of the new drive shafts, which is why I said it looks like HPI coppied Phatdads shafts for this new kit. No slamming anyone man.
In fact. I think I have a set of Phatdads here still. Also have couple Hostile Spurs and a Turtle Pinion for his v2 carriers. Also still have the Paddles and Razors from my Hooters Baja.
My HBF handle is Timmahhs5b.
@@kpopRC Haven't talked to Tom in a decade. Would Love to catch up with him.