Dr. Dennis Howard: "Dancehall is Dead: Good Riddance!" || The Fix Podcast
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- Опубліковано 18 кві 2024
- In this podcast clip, Dr. Dennis Howard, a renowned media manager, music producer, and managing director of the Institute of Cultural Policy and Innovation, talks why he agrees with Shaggy's statements about 90s dancehall being "dead."
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Finally a knowledgeable person who tell it like it is.reggae didn't fall out the sky it was borrowed from mainly rhythm and blues so dancehall was created from reggae
Listen and learn young people, this is a musicologist. I am 53 and Jamaican to the core, I must admit that I am learning some things from the G right here 🙏🏾
For the first time .. I’m impress by this gentleman.. He’s speaking facts.
What is killing dancehall is its content not the sound.
The chatting is the same the rhythm is pure rubbish it does not identify as reggae dancehall music it leans to pop and r and b chek it no bass guitar
No content and the sound is pure rubbish not real music it's just bullshit😢 you can't even dance to it please go back to real music
What 90s dancehall music was is afrobeats today if you listen to the English translation it is music with a message
It's both...these new riddims sound like Jingle Bells. Very underwhelming...
Sound and content. The beat these days isn't promoting the dancing part of it
Finally someone talking the real facts about the evolution of our music without the revisionist history. Reggae and Dancehall was always inspired by other music of the time….just like ALL other music. Thats the only way music works. The dancehall in the early 80s sound different from 90s from right now. This happens with every other genre powerhouse. Hip Hop, Jazz or Rock music now does not sound like it did 20 years ago and it’s nowhere nearDancehall is alive and still evolving. Anytime it stops changing is when it’s really dead, when it gets stagnant is when you should be worrying about our culture. When I hear some debates I really wonder if people understand how music and history works.
👉I HATE TO SEE PREJUDICE DARKSKIN PEOPLE LIKE ARI.
Well said sir. The important thing is to make good music as all genres borrow from each other. Steelie and Clevie have said repeatedly that the Gigi riddim was influenced by new African sounds they had been exposed to in the early 90s.
@ChrisMalachi , you right all music evolve but Denis has a deeper point which is trapdancehall is not dancehall, his point is genres are define by thier drum pattern which trap doesn't doesn't have that pattern, so in other words trap dancehall didn't evolve from dancehall, it's a entire genre by itself which more leaning to drill music.....our musical identity as Jamaicans is reggae and dancehall, which we need to appreciate, learn to play it, then twist it our way with our now global musical ears without destroying what makes it authentic..which is the drum pattern, the problem I have is our legendary producers do not have a online presence teaching the younger generation...so myself a producer when I go online, most tutoring content are from people overseas who makes hip hop and afrobeats....so guess what I'm making hip hip and afrobeats mixed with whatever I know about dancehall which is not a bad or a good thing
@@OfficialJayGyft importance is to make good music. As Howard says the cream will rise to the top.
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Reggae music stands out as the greatest Jamaica ever gave the world that’s why reggae acts are still getting bookings ..
I second this notion 100percent
it's the same mentality that is so pervasive in the ghettos/garrisons of Jamaica that comes across in how we discuss things. It's that need to be recognized and to feel like we are worthy. Same thing that mek the man dem run up and down a shoot people wid gun....to feel like I am worthy of "being". Big up Dr. Howard for educating us on how things ARE.
Best reasoning; from a man who knows the reality of the music. Respect Dr. Howard from Ocho Rios days. Grove Music & Barry O'Hare.
Dr. Dennis Howard....this man is music itself. From way back when...JBC days.
I am watching from Nigeria.
Even Nigerian artistes have started making a version of Trap Afrobeat. It is niether groovy, happy, exciting nor and popular with the people, yet they are all jumping on it. Burna Boy is filling massive arenas around the world with Afrobeat, yet they are veering off Afrobeat.
He kinda right about the dexta song. It’s really the topic of the song that makes it dancehall. The beat is kinda slow and I can hear other genres using that beat.
From a black American this man is speaking BIG FACTS..RESPECT SIR..Jamaicans did not create hip hop. Jamaicans created reggae though👏🏾.. we all influenced each other..hiw about the darker shade of black riddim based on a Beatles song.. good content!!
This man is a rare species from Jamaica. Professor of music
Dennis Howard got a big fight at Irie FM . Today he is Dr. DH. Where are they accusers??
THANK YOU DR HOWARD . Tell them the truth about our music . THIS IS LIKE OFFICIAL HISTORY OF OUR POPULAR MUSIC .....SO TRUE
Not because he says it doesn’t make it all true- still respecting his views -
He isn't just talking and giving his opinion. He is giving facts to back up his argument.
Ska, rock steady, and Reggae is authentic Jamaican, Dancehall is a place we we go to from back in the fifties & sixties. Sound system play in the Dancehall with toasters (DJ )and that carries over to other countries with Jamaicans migrating and influencing those countries to blend their music creating Hip hop, afrobeat reggaeton etc. Any other chat a nonsense.
Each one teach one and this is one of the most knowledgeable men have seen in music with facts and not biased. It’s true that every music is influenced by another music . Respect .. Dr ..
Both Hip hop and Dancehall are victims of commercial success and exposure. I think a lot of the Artists don't have any music integrity because its about collecting a cheque and staying relevant.
Really good information. Good show.
Modern Dancehall is very low vibrational.
Dancehall hasn’t evolved because the word evolve would imply that it’s moving forward. But to be real none of these new songs are making waves like the afrobeats songs. Those artists are putting out music and it’s instantly a viral hit worldwide. We can’t say the same about dancehall. Most songs are just hits within the diaspora with a small few that become viral hits. Simple.
Everythangs has its time in the past when afro beats was going on dance was more popular than it now it's afro beats time
Definitely good conversation and as usual a plethora of information about music history 1 #TheFix
My teacher a you mek mi know the real Importants of the music business. I learned a lot in class and happy the knowledge is now been shared to the world. It is up to the Artist of today to take and guide in our forward movement, not forgetting our Culture, big up Mr Howard Dennis.
Great insight and info. True musicologist for real!
This was a great interview
Interesting Interview.
Big up The FIX.
The message and bass in reggae is what captured the world, Africa has been playing music ever since mostly drumming, Jamaica is Africa Diaspora they focused attention back to Africa again. Bless.
Kool herc pioneered the idea and the others run with it!
Love hear da Breda ya talk enuh
Jamaican music has big influence on many genres hip hop, reggaeton, to some extent afro beat arguable etc.
The new generation of Jamaicans like the mixup, violence and the raunchiness. So they’re going to disagree.
Big up 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Look from when dancehall change smh glad dem man ya deh bout fi talk 😅😅
Dancehall has lost its way
Can lost its way it has just evolved #fixuplife
Haffi learn to accept changes. R spend di rest a yuh life talking about 80is/90is...
Dancehall has never had a way... from day 1, everyone did what they wanted..
👉I HATE TO SEE PREJUDICE DARKSKIN PEOPLE LIKE ARI.
I agree good music lives on today's crap well not stand the test of time it is pure rubbish sorry to say 😢
Big talk Dr Howard..music is a communal creation...too much people seeking individual accolades..
Dr talking facts big up yourself
Love this guy man we need to put these kinds conversation in the public space. So much ignorance abd arrogance about the history of our music
Whether you agree with him or not, the hosts obviously have done no research to counter anything he has said or make a solid counter argument.
Honestly, he his 1000% right because the music as been fused with other musical influences a couple of times. However, in life, everything as to do with vibrating off sounds, rhythms, and frequencies wave to stay in existence. Now a days, the Trap Dancehall Music as sound issues. It is not in tune with the right keys of frequencies waves and the right lyric pattern. The younger artists are vibrating off digital computer frequencies and not human frequencies with is a major problem. They need to get back to the foundation of the music by vibrating on their vocal chords and the larynx box with is a part of the Chakras with align the mind, body and soul as an electrical power source. Yes, last greatest Reggae singers is Jah Cure because sings from his larynx box the correct way. Also playing musical playing live instruments will definitely fix the problem as well. For example, the 2000's War Riddims Driven with Mavado and Vybz Kartel is a incredible and a timeless masterpiece and I rather listen to them than today's music because they were vibrating on larynx box frequencies the right as well. Nevertheless, despite all that Dancehall Music gets zillions of respect because they are the only ones that had the guts to compete with Hip Hop Music for decades. Therefore, they should be given credit and respect for breaking down barriers and bringing Dancehall Music to the main stream. Yes, Vybz Kartel the greatest Dancehall Music lyricist gave ideas and teaching, on how to be creative, how to be visionary and futuristic, how to use metaphor languages, musical melodies, marketing strategy, products values and retails, how to advertise and promote, how to make the money, how to gain financial independence, how be a competitor, how to trade mark, how to copy right and pattern, how to use human behaviors, how to use psychology to you advantage, how to be business owners, how be a investors with multiple streams of incomes, how to use technology such as the internet because he his the one that came up with the idea for Tic Toc, how to build corporations, entrepreneurship and business practices so the younger generation can manifest their full potential and live successfully in an unfair world. For example, Skillibeng is influenced by Vybz Kartel's teachings 1000%. He basically thought us how to play the game in a psychological warfare world that the System Oppressors as been using for centuries to control human minds. Now, Vybz Kartel is a considered a hero in Africa because of his wisdom, knowledge and the power of overstanding. He is a freedom fighter just like Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Burning Spear, Capleton, Sizzla Kalonji, Lucky Dube and many more. Yes, human beings doesn't wants to be slaves to the system they want to be free to choose their own destiny.
This is the problem with Nightly Fix .. when dem fi do a serious interview a bare skin teeth and gimmicks and is like them don’t even do any research so they can contribute to the topic at hand
it seems like their effort is more for entertainment and less about information and education. It's almost like viewers and subscribers just lucky if we get something other than that out of it. But a fi dem thing ...we never had to come over here come watch them still.
After 10 years and so much immaturity even when it’s time to just listen.
Dont find anything wrg with that. Its makes it more interesting. Than just a boring convo
👉I HATE TO SEE PREJUDICE DARKSKIN PEOPLE LIKE ARI.
Me just don’t kno what Javi bring to the show.
The most important part to this music was the riddim. 2. that riddim features various artists riding that riddim. 3. Juggling!!. Creative riddims that were iconic and distinctive is now left in the past. Nothing last forever
he said, "every just ah talk like me a figh again dancehall".. but if you say good riddance to something, that means you are glad it is gone. yes, by your words you make it seem like you are happy dancehall is gone. 0:31. You can call it whatever you want, trap dancehall, soca dancehall, jazz dancehall.. DANCEHALLL is the focus.
Dennis Howard is absolutely right. The signature sound of dancehall has not made any waves for almost 30 years. The beat pattern he referenced has not been a dominant feature of "riddims" since maybe 1999-2000. In 2009, when Stephen di Genius came on the scene, he received tremendous backlash for producing beats that many thought to be outside of the traditions of dancehall music.
These old heads expect the music to stay the same. Not saying artists can’t sample but new sounds are to be expected… Respectfully.
That’s not the argument u just not very bright the argument a seh dem teef rap an a call it dancehall 🤡
@@squilliamfancyson3333By your logic Kartel, Aidonia and Mavado are rappers and Elephant man, Beenie, Shaggy and Sean Paul are rnb artists. Stop smoking bro, we’ve been making ‘fusion’ based records for a VERY long time. Do some research for yourself. Is ‘Fever’ by Kartel or ‘Give it all to me’ by Mavado rnb?… 🤦🏾♂️
@@JVASZE 🤡 if an artists songs are 90% of one genre then them decide fi do a one or two song in a different genre unless they have made s shift in their overall style of music they are still going to be associated with their original genre……lil wayne sing some rock and roll song but he’s still a rapper not a rock star, snoop dogg did a do reggae fi s little but he is a RAPPER the same can be said for other artists in many other genres so once again a foolishness yah chat……..how u learn a school
@JVASZE That is why dancehall is dead. People are not looking for a worse version of a product like rap that is dying. The international audience wants authentic dancehall music. This garbage these days isn't even fusion. Shaggy isn't a dancehall artist and some of Sean Paul's real big hits aren't even fusion.
The Dr is 💯 History is the 🔑
Peter Tosh is the first person to put the 🌿 words RASTA in Reggae music.... The song called RASTA shook them THEM
As much is I still love/like “modern” dancehall its simply not as captivating as earlier dancehall. It’s also no longer a unique or identifiable genre -if I’m blasting music from my car, no one will know it’s the music of Jamaica. But even then I wouldn’t even blast it anymore since every other word is p***y - mi woulda shame. It’s either violent, melancholic, or overly vulgar. Even Shenseas latest song, which you think you could play out loud, then next thing you know she’s singing “spit inna mi mouth,” like why. And these artists and producers don’t want to hear it, but if they want success beyond the diaspora, they will have to reformulate cuz this nah work.
The gentleman is so vast in music.....especially Nigerian Music.
I've been studying the music for a long time now. He is right on the money for sure, I'm surprised he didn't mention Henry " Junjo " Lawes. Who really influenced the early dancehall movement
Early 2000s 90s are bests
Real talk Dr Howard...
In reference to hiphop I'd say Black Americans had the ingredients for hiphop that they created (blues etc) and Caribbean people in Ny cooked and seasoned it up so to speak. Like Dennis said music is a communal thing.
Exactly saying Kool Herc didn't create hip hop is like saying the first guy who invented cars didn't do it because chariots were in existence
Nuh hold back nothing general youth just listen this man have tears on us
Dancehall is evolving anyone who disagrees is extremely closed minded
Evolving into hip hop……..a genre that already exists
People have to face the reality that things evolve, nothing is wrong with the current sound that dancehall has, what is mashing up dancehall is the lyrical content
Good he hopefully cleared up some things afrobeat is it own thing it fuse in many things including dancehall a matter a fact it takes more from R & B than anything, hip hop a founder is a jamaican and it influences it to a degree at least new york hip hop which by and large is what most people think of as hip hop
Barrington levy’s “dances are changing” is on the General rhythm, not the M16 rhythm!!!
King Tubby was the name you were looking for.
Our dancehall and reggae producer's do not have an online presence teaching the younger generation the "How To" so guess what im learning music production from a white guy in the USA, not Jamaica....
YES LET THE GUY TALK HE KNOWS THE TING!
Dr Howard has great Musical knowledge
Same idiots saying the genre is dead, will find something else to whine about when in a decade, dancehall shows that it is indeed still alive. Every genre goes through a transition period. They said hip hop was dead years ago when “mumble rap” became a thing. Hip hop was the #1 genre in music last year.
This is the problem with us, always stuck within our past and afraid to things so we can nurture it the right way. SMH
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 #fixuplife
Most definitely, these olds guys are drunk of nostalgia
The results will always show if something has change for the better or worst. Now look at the global impact of dancehall from shabba to vybz kartel, then look at the none impact of today's dancehall.
@@julesgordon1109 all our genre started out the same way having a none impact until it picks up and become something. #fixuplife
@meskelsounds that won't be the case with this type of dancehall because them a follow the hip hop sound....the riddim plus the singing on the beat. The main reason why reggae and dancehall took to the world was because it had a different and distinctive sound didn't sound like no other genre of music. Pay attention to this...the cover artiste dem from the 80s and 90s like Sanchez and ghost never mek it big outside of jamaica. Plus A lot of artist flop when dem go in the international market because dem stray away from the authentic sound...people like shenseea. One of the biggest song in dancehall for the last 10 years was byron messiah taliban....how much international looks did him or his song got..very little cause it doesn't have an authentic sound..it a copy another sound
See the video on the Japanese woman who first programmed the Sleng Teng riddim for the Casiotone MT-40.
🔥❤🌟
There’s allot of holes in his statements. There’s a sub genre of a AfroBeat that mimics the dancehall groove.
He got most things right, but got wrong the fact that Kool Herc a Jamaican started Hip Hop-facts. The merry go round started Hip Hop. DJ Holiday did not create hip hop as he was a disco Dj. Credit were it's due
Na na, Na Na Na, Nardo. You nah tell them a who mek you know that song 😅
He cannot “dancehall is dead, good riddance” for click bait and then get mad that it didn’t work and that people didn’t read to see he was misleading them with the title.
He’s correct Shabba madda pot is Trap Hall.
One love fix crew.
FINALLY SOEBODY GET IT RIGHT
All music evolve but Denis has a deeper point which is trapdancehall is not dancehall, his point is genres are define by thier drum pattern which trap doesn't doesn't have that pattern, so in other words trap dancehall didn't evolve from dancehall, it's a entire genre by itself which more leaning to drill music.....our musical identity as Jamaicans is reggae and dancehall, which we need to appreciate, learn to play it, then twist it our way with our now global musical ears without destroying what makes it authentic..which is the drum pattern, the problem I have is our legendary producers do not have a online presence teaching the younger generation...so myself a producer when I go online, most tutoring content are from people overseas who makes hip hop and afrobeats....so guess what I'm making hip hip and afrobeats mixed with whatever I know about dancehall which is not a bad or a good thing, but they can't cuss us for not being authentic when they the pioneers were no where to be found.
Dennis stop big up YUHSELF and humble YUHSELF 😮
Don't forget Disco King Mario who put Africa Bambatta on. This man knows the truth.
Same thing with Hip Hop it was talking over Disco Music!
Dr. Dennis Howard is correct.
Honestly, dancehall is diminishing still the 90s dancehall music still the front runner.
The sound changing dancehall
Mr Howard is extremely knowledgeable and there is a lot that can be learnt by listening to him. But he doesn't allow the others to make their point before he jumps in.
Mr Howard dont have the first clue about many of what he said. PSQUARE as early Afro Beats 😂😂😂😂
There's a documentary coming out that will talk about the history of hip hop, coming soon, i think it is called mic check
There is no debunking Kool Herc and that's what black Americans want to do
@@roylle6346 when the documentary comes out, check it out
Biological labels and musical labels do not equate. One is scientific the other is cultural and subjective.
The entire thing that the doctor is talking about isnt all correct Hip Hop was birth from Jamaican sound system culture. Ok he just said what i was about to say.... .... but the sound system culture was still a Jamaican thing even though it had various music being played but that syle of partying with the big boxes in an open space with people like Daddy U Roy successor of Count Matchuki who did a style of the American Jive talk over a mic during the Sound System style. This is what was considered the Jamaican concept of Jive talk however the environment was that of a sound system. This was about 1955. America never started block parties until in 1973 which started in a basement of a house in the Bronx by Cindy Campbelle. Block parties which was like that of Sound System parties was were hip hop was formed. Plus African Bambaata was of Barbadain and Jamaican descent. Kool Herc was Jamaican and Grand Master Flash was also Barbadian. This man needs to be challanged in an interview
To be fair the first block party in America was in new York shortly after world war 1or 2
Him forget the water bed b4 slengteng
🤔 Reggae music vs Dancehall music? A Reggae music a do it 💯🔥🔥🔥
It nuh dead it evolve. Think like yuh buy bmw x5 series and them change the features of the car over the years. Like the headlights the grill etc. Some people may not like the newer look but it still is what it is just change with the times
Still a BMW tho innit? The whole point is no matter how it changes you can't mistake a BMW for Toyota.
The core of it, which is the engine, don't change.
Dennis Howard talking facts about that eediat dj from England (Tony Blackburn) saying reggae sound like it was made in the toilet
After the dancalle that's playing now not letting no one dance
Doesn't matter where the beat was created or by whom it was created it was all inspired from Reggae.
A wonder a wah cause dancehall fi stay so!
Big up Dr. Dennis, he is very knowledgeable. But you see dancehall and reggae derived from theee instruments, the drum, bass and the lead guitar the rest of it is flavor. So it you hear other pieces of samples are just flavor. You can't have chicken soup without chicken in it or Jamaica rice n peas without coconut in it. Now you can have rice and bean, but it is not Jamaican rice n peas.
sir music is evolving, u can expect people to using the same old beats. does rap sound the same as the 90's?
Evolution often involves some sort of improvement. Trap dancehall improve the sound and marketability how??
Lawd ah Shaggy dat inna di thumbnail? Vybz Kartel really did wan look like him all a bleach fi get him international success lmaoo
VYBZ KARTEL BIGGER than Shaggy even in America.
@@thelivekatcher666😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I live in America. That is nonsense. It's not even close. Shaggy is international and huge in America.
The FIRST SENSIBLE and EXPOSED Jamaican EVER to say the TRUTH about the MUSIC and correct the popular BULLSHIT notion spread by Jamaicans....I AM HAPPY ABOUT HOW MUCH HE KNOWS OUR ARTISTES IN NIGERIA and set the records straight with regards to that THIEVING accusation
Dancehall is where the music use to play
Whats the name of his books and his website
Thank you sir it not hip pop or trap check the bpm
Mr Howard remember these are some children's your are reasoning with. You hear what Naro and Air said? you are making up names lol Fats Domino. Yellow Man cover of Blueberry Hill is one of his biggest hit. The Fixx its class time pay attention. This man know the history of our/ other music.
Who created R n B? Black Americans. Kool Herc the Jamaican brought Jamaican Sound System Culture to America and fused with American culture and create Hip hop. Likewise, R n B influence created Reggae/Dancehall. People nor Music is static...People evolve, Likewise the Music....They are always a creator Mr. Dennis Howard.
Ari not every song deejayed in patio is a version of dancehall beat and composition as well dexta is a R& B Jamaican artiste who fuse in song dancehall in his music, you ever hear dexta sing a party song a dance song i don't believe i have at least none has been a hit if he has
I think the music should change. but with our sound our groove .with each decade that the music sound changed it had always been indigenous
Hip hop was influence by Dancalle and even if it wasnt which It is both genres are similar just like you have Jay z and Nas you have bounty and Beenie it's built off rivalry it's black pol that got took from africa and land in different places that find a way through music