I'm a clydesdale cyclist (I peg the top end of my bike's weight limit), and yea, that's a pretty accurate representation of what it's like. It sucks, but that's also why I ride, to make it suck less.
The end of the climb was absolutely hysterical! The failure to get off the bike, the "van der poel", the flipped turtle, the car making sure you weren't dead. Comedy gold
Yeah I agree there too. Why is it totally fine to shame someone for being thin or athletic with "you're so skinny, you should eat more", or thinking I'm crazy for wanting to lose fat/weight to be more fit? Then if you say someone is overweight and they should lose some to be healthy, that is a horrible offense? I was shamed plenty for being thin for most of my life, and it's really annoying having that kind of double standard.
I’m a bigger guy myself. Was 6:0 225, hired a nutritionist and over 4 months down to 195. Did an 80 mile race last weekend I had done 3 times before. 40 min faster with only a small improvement in power, the rest was weight difference.
I've lost 30 lbs going from 260 to 230 at 6 feet tall myself over the past year. Huge gains at all the local climbs due to an upgrade in bike and the weight loss. I still got to keep all the 250lb+ weight KOMs on Strava! They stay there forever until another 250lb+ guy beats them.
That’s amazing and gives me tons of hope. I’m a bigger guy at 274 and seem to be holding at 12-14mph. Slowly losing weight and my goal is a 100 mile ride. Would love to feel like I’m not dying up a hill.
@@Bigdaddy19714 I spent years trying to lose weight thinking I’ll just workout harder and more and just outwork my bad diet. It was a losing battle. The nutritionist was the game changer. Was shocked, the 1st thing she had me do was eat more and more often but different. I hate salads so she has never once tried to push those on me. She took a few weeks to find out what My tastes are and guided me toward healthy versions of what I like. She even put me on a daily protein shake that I kid you not, taste exactly like chips-ahoy cookies. Turns out I can lose weight, eat what I like and never feel hungry. It’s a win win.
from about 2008 to 2014 they used to do some weird and unexplained bike changes just before key moments in races where he would suddenly ride away from the best riders in the world like they were amateurs. You could also see him pressing buttons on the handlebar in a time before electroni shifting. You don't see that happen in bike races after or before that time period. Only one person has ever been caught with a motor in their bike and it was a female semi pro. Who knows ?
@@methylmike In phil's book he mentioned the rumor, Fabian got upset about it and there ended up being a challenge issued and he and phil ultimately went head to head at a fondo they both did, phil has videos about the "drama" and the "race" you can go back and see.
@@kc3718 "You could also see him pressing buttons on the handlebar in a time before electroni shifting." nah, in the most famous "proof" video you see him shifting..
As A fat guy 240 lbs I love this video. I ride 4 hour rides all the time with skinny guy and watch them drop me on the hills. Momentum is your friend when your large. Thanks for the great videos and being willing to see what being large is like. Cheers to you and may the wind be at your back
@@philclarke7712 by not eating like an out of control fat idiot. And riding my bike. No special diet. No trying to do this or that.... just not being a fat idiot and actually moving my body. Thats it
my cycle to work used to be up a decently steep hill (120 meters climbing) with a 20 kg rucksack every morning for a year. It helps the climbing legs for sure
I know how you feel. I was about 300 lbs when I got back into cycling. (I am 6'3") I am down to 225 right now. Hills I had to creep up in the easiest gear I can shoot up in my big ring now.
One of the best example of friendship between dudes : constantly talking shit and trolling one another; yet always looking after each other with huge respect. 🤝
That might be Phil's most impressive climb, in my book. I've done that one a few times, and the Ridge Park Drive 11%+ section is a serious grind under the best of circumstances. I think I would rip my knees right out of my legs if I tried to get up it with 110 lbs of extra weight on my back. Good stuff, and good fun, Phil and Paul (and Emily, and Creature).
@@charlesborlase2238 - This is in Newport Beach. I think the first (easier) part is San Joaquin Rd. The second, much steeper part, is definitely Ridge Park Rd. www.strava.com/segments/18078476
@@robertwaldren6206 cool. I've done Newport Coast, up from Crystal Cove. that second part looks like it'll make this clydesdale cry. Probably not as bad as the short punch out of Dana Point Harbor (Cove Rd)
@@charlesborlase2238 - It's not quite as steep as Cove Road at Dana Harbor, especially where Cove goes really steep from the turn to the top, but Ridge Park is longer. I'd say that if you can do either, then you can do both, and they're both good challenges in their own way.
Me starting cycling while being a pretty fit bigger guy. "Dude my ftp is going to be great i have super strong legs" *does and ftp test and gets 196* 😑
Being a larger rider also, 225 lbs, my smaller and lighter friends like to ride passed me on the climbs. I always say if they just weight the same! Upside I can beat them on the flats.
@@abone2pick Yeah, dude, neat. 👍 Reading comprehension is important. We're talking about riding with our friends here, not in the TDF. Don't be so serious.
Thank you for pointing that out, I noticed that too we have to all be careful about the body shaming going both ways, I know for sure a man would never want to hear that his arms are skinny that’s just not cool
I would laugh but I put on 40 pounds during covid so this is my future... For now, luckily, I have no bib shorts I would fit in, so everything is OK :-)
Hard to sense how good a good rider is. I know that ride. Amazing how fast/smooth he went up with that weight he’s not used to. I guess with those miles, in your legs, it just gets harder without peddling stroke falling apart.
I can’t even tell you how long I’ve wanted to see something like this! I’m a TT specialist, former bodybuilder and power lifter. And my wife likes my upper body. Kudos to Phil for even trying!!
Great video and sheds great light on the plight of heavy riders. Would love to see one with an ebike calibrated to make someone 260 feel like 180 or 165. More motivation to lose the extra insulation. Great comedy also and way to make public amends for public comments.
"No, you're wearing it the rest of the night." Phil laughs. "No, you are." Pulls gun. "Now walk up those four flights of stairs to the dining room at the winery. Who's laughing now, cookie man?"
I am so bummed! You guys rode right past my house (intersection of Marguerite and Sandcastle)! If I had known you were going to be doing this I would have rode with you to cheer you on! BTW, that is like the only Cat 3 climb in this area!
what about getting a bike with front and rear racks and just adding panniers and 100lbs of gear like your going on an epic round the world camping trip? cycle tourist vs big guy race!
I literally laughed out loud at least twice, and snorted milk through my nose once. But we're laughing with you, buddy, not at you. Promise. Reminds me of my first few times hauling a month's worth of cat food and litter for my three furballs on a 40 lb comfort hybrid. Uphill. Makes any road bike ride seem a bit easier.
I've ridden some of the same climbs that Phil has ridden and I have to remind myself that he weighs what I weighed in elementary school, so comparisons on Strava have to be given some context. Thanks for making this video to make that context even more interesting!
Damn, that was funny. Being part German myself, it makes sense I was chuckling in lockstep with Paul while Phil was dying 1000 deaths. The schadenfreude was real.
True cycling friends are the ones who mock you while you're suffering up a hill, and then ride circles around you when you're at the top puking your guts out!
I'm not overweight (but heavy compared to a pro cyclist), but seeing Phil suffer and beg for the top like I do on a tough climb was pretty awesome to see!
What was the PSI in ur tires? Did u add air ? It looks like you were riding on ur rims.. Welcome to my world.. ugh.. This is very interesting. I’ve watched it several times.
I enjoy the usual videos, but this was something quite different, and I liked it even more! I've always been a decent climber, because I weigh less than 150, but at the same time knowing some of the guys I beat up hills are making way more power. This really puts what they are doing in perspective.
This was great. I always get jealous of the skinny guys. I love climbing despite the effects of gravity on me. I'm currently 208, was out in LA a few weeks ago. Managed to do the Encanto>39>GMR>Baldy lifts route in about 3:45. Long time to be climbing but was worth it. Cookie 🍪 corner was a bitch!!
Ha ha ha!!! That’s got to be the funniest episode! Especially since I’m a 135 Kg cyclist. So add an additional 40 lbs. and we can go up GMR. J/K. Great job sir. Appreciate your videos.
thanks Phil, that was funny. I enjoyed the video right from the start. It was good to watch the two of you poke fun at yourselves. Understanding the German was cherry on the cake
Points about this video. 1) dropping the bike, don't worry it's a Disc bike, they get "dropped" all the time. 2) it's not fair to push a ex-pro when they don't have their EPO. 3) maybe if the fat guy got off the e-bike he wouldn't be fat? Ok, I'm done.
Dude, he is overweight, 260 pounds is a ton for his height and build. If he squared away his diet and eating routine, he would enjoy cycling and his life waaaaaay more. I used to be 240, and dropped 60 pounds myself, and I never, ever want to go above 200 pounds again.
Unfair test for Phil. Paul is much bigger guy, his "in-shape" weight is probably around 200 lb. So, his extra weight is 60 lb, which is 30% extra. Phil should have added 30% to his body weight, which is 45 lb, not 100 lb...
Pandemic last year? I thought we were currently in one.
Thanks for clarifying for me Phil!
There was a brief period in California where it seemed to be over
@@worstretirementever We were so damn close. Group rides started coming back and boom. New variant.
As much as i love science i also hate it.
GROUP RIDES CAUSED IT I’M TELLING THE CDC
@@worstretirementever DON'T DO IT PHIL. It's all got left for therpy :D
That's what they say.
So your telling me, If I lost 100 pounds I could be a retired pro cyclist
Anythings possible!
If I lost 100 lbs, I'd be a toddler.
@@TheCatAteMyShoe 😂
Yes. That’s what we’re telling you Zinski. Now go retire.
If I lost 100 lbs, I would weight the same as my road bike.
I'm a clydesdale cyclist (I peg the top end of my bike's weight limit), and yea, that's a pretty accurate representation of what it's like. It sucks, but that's also why I ride, to make it suck less.
The „suffer you pig“ in German made me giggle.
His Ullrich-motivation was spot on😂
how is it, written down?
@@francoisthomas4930 Quäl' dich, du Sau! (Quäle)
Udo Bölts said that to Ulrich on his winning Tour de France
Classic quote from Udo Bölts to Ullrich in the… 2003(?) Tour.
The end of the climb was absolutely hysterical! The failure to get off the bike, the "van der poel", the flipped turtle, the car making sure you weren't dead. Comedy gold
the Van Der Poel was especially funny after watching last night's Olympic road race.
Technically he started it with the skinny shamming Phil’s arms.
I was thinking that.
Ya but come on! Those things are SKIIIIIIINNY!! Lol!!
Completely agree.
Yeah I agree there too. Why is it totally fine to shame someone for being thin or athletic with "you're so skinny, you should eat more", or thinking I'm crazy for wanting to lose fat/weight to be more fit? Then if you say someone is overweight and they should lose some to be healthy, that is a horrible offense? I was shamed plenty for being thin for most of my life, and it's really annoying having that kind of double standard.
It’s fine because he took the piss out of Paul being fat first and they’re friends.
I’m a bigger guy myself. Was 6:0 225, hired a nutritionist and over 4 months down to 195. Did an 80 mile race last weekend I had done 3 times before. 40 min faster with only a small improvement in power, the rest was weight difference.
Way to go!
I've lost 30 lbs going from 260 to 230 at 6 feet tall myself over the past year. Huge gains at all the local climbs due to an upgrade in bike and the weight loss. I still got to keep all the 250lb+ weight KOMs on Strava! They stay there forever until another 250lb+ guy beats them.
That’s amazing and gives me tons of hope. I’m a bigger guy at 274 and seem to be holding at 12-14mph. Slowly losing weight and my goal is a 100 mile ride. Would love to feel like I’m not dying up a hill.
Great results👍🏽
@@Bigdaddy19714 I spent years trying to lose weight thinking I’ll just workout harder and more and just outwork my bad diet. It was a losing battle. The nutritionist was the game changer. Was shocked, the 1st thing she had me do was eat more and more often but different. I hate salads so she has never once tried to push those on me. She took a few weeks to find out what My tastes are and guided me toward healthy versions of what I like. She even put me on a daily protein shake that I kid you not, taste exactly like chips-ahoy cookies. Turns out I can lose weight, eat what I like and never feel hungry. It’s a win win.
A good ride always includes "I don't like anything about this. I'm questioning our friendship".
Just when he and Fabian Cancellara had buried the hatchet, he makes another mechanical doping joke.
With a name like that, nothing is cancel-lara
@@methylmike Maybe.
from about 2008 to 2014 they used to do some weird and unexplained bike changes just before key moments in races where he would suddenly ride away from the best riders in the world like they were amateurs. You could also see him pressing buttons on the handlebar in a time before electroni shifting. You don't see that happen in bike races after or before that time period. Only one person has ever been caught with a motor in their bike and it was a female semi pro. Who knows ?
@@methylmike In phil's book he mentioned the rumor, Fabian got upset about it and there ended up being a challenge issued and he and phil ultimately went head to head at a fondo they both did, phil has videos about the "drama" and the "race" you can go back and see.
@@kc3718 "You could also see him pressing buttons on the handlebar in a time before electroni shifting."
nah, in the most famous "proof" video you see him shifting..
Finally someone show what the actual performance difference of being a larger rider to a smaller one. Respect the effort.
My cervelo S5 weight limit is 210. I start my rides over the limit and finish underweight lol.
So tall people are always over the limit lol
@@herrar6595 unless you're pro Skinny. Ive been trying to get skinny for 3 years. Why i started biking. I have lost 40lbs so winn.
@@Southerncyclist yeah, I´m 6´3, 180 pounds, but thats cause I have no fat... good luck at 6´5
@@herrar6595 Im 6'3 I used to weigh 185 with peaked out upper body gym muscle. I was lean.
This needs to be a series! Paul and Phil (with added weight) climb mountains! Next up GMR!!!
I weigh 96kg (about 212lbs). Phil’s face and body aches is me on every hill ever. 👍🥵
lmao this guy is getting his revenge for sure
I think everyone needs a vengeful German screaming at them to "come on!" up every climb
"SHUT UP LEGS AND DO WHAT I TELL YOU"
The person that pulled over must have immediately regretted it once they got a better look
Props on him for being a good samaritan though
"Quäl dich, du Sau!" - Fabelhaft!
Also a great book by Udo Bölts. Nice one guys.
As A fat guy 240 lbs I love this video. I ride 4 hour rides all the time with skinny guy and watch them drop me on the hills. Momentum is your friend when your large. Thanks for the great videos and being willing to see what being large is like. Cheers to you and may the wind be at your back
At my largest I was like 240-245 .... right now I'm like 155 and it feels amazing
thats insane!
WhoA + right on Chad !
Nice to hear that man, keep up the good spirit :)
Wow Chad. Inspirational! How did you do it?
@@philclarke7712 by not eating like an out of control fat idiot. And riding my bike. No special diet. No trying to do this or that.... just not being a fat idiot and actually moving my body. Thats it
What Phil was Missing in his everesting record. Weight training with a vest. 🤣
True!
my cycle to work used to be up a decently steep hill (120 meters climbing) with a 20 kg rucksack every morning for a year. It helps the climbing legs for sure
I'm a 240lb rider, I may be slow up a hill but if you need to move a couch when we get to the top I'm your guy 🤣
I know how you feel. I was about 300 lbs when I got back into cycling. (I am 6'3") I am down to 225 right now. Hills I had to creep up in the easiest gear I can shoot up in my big ring now.
Silly to compare. Phil's body isn't developed for caring that weight.
But makes a funny video
One of the best example of friendship between dudes : constantly talking shit and trolling one another; yet always looking after each other with huge respect. 🤝
@Armel > just like the good ol' days !!
"Everyone should try this".
Ehm, yeah, been "trying" it for a while now and I would rather try your weight instead.
EXACTLY this!
That might be Phil's most impressive climb, in my book. I've done that one a few times, and the Ridge Park Drive 11%+ section is a serious grind under the best of circumstances. I think I would rip my knees right out of my legs if I tried to get up it with 110 lbs of extra weight on my back. Good stuff, and good fun, Phil and Paul (and Emily, and Creature).
which climb is this? I'm in Lake Forest....not quite recognizing it. But I wanna climb it.
@@charlesborlase2238 - This is in Newport Beach. I think the first (easier) part is San Joaquin Rd. The second, much steeper part, is definitely Ridge Park Rd. www.strava.com/segments/18078476
@@robertwaldren6206 cool. I've done Newport Coast, up from Crystal Cove.
that second part looks like it'll make this clydesdale cry. Probably not as bad as the short punch out of Dana Point Harbor (Cove Rd)
@@charlesborlase2238 - It's not quite as steep as Cove Road at Dana Harbor, especially where Cove goes really steep from the turn to the top, but Ridge Park is longer. I'd say that if you can do either, then you can do both, and they're both good challenges in their own way.
Bro that was the funniest shit ive seen and idk why. U so chill bro, i love it.
I suspect Phil's wedding tackle will be numb until early 2022...
Phill was a good sport for doing this, and this is how I feel when I ride with lighter riders; I’m always trying to catch up. 😁
Genius Mr Gaimon, absolutely loved that little gem of a story.
Me starting cycling while being a pretty fit bigger guy. "Dude my ftp is going to be great i have super strong legs"
*does and ftp test and gets 196*
😑
Big calf joke, “Those aren’t calves those are cows.”
Like making fun of skinny arms is any different than joking about being fat.
Correct!
"He's OK, he's just fat!"
Being a larger rider also, 225 lbs, my smaller and lighter friends like to ride passed me on the climbs. I always say if they just weight the same! Upside I can beat them on the flats.
Same and downhill's no competition haha
I call it gravity assist. :-)
@@abone2pick Yeah, dude, neat. 👍 Reading comprehension is important. We're talking about riding with our friends here, not in the TDF. Don't be so serious.
this was a fun idea at first then later i felt so bad for Phil
Yo Phil you should really use a blinking tail light on busy roads like that so you have more visibility.
Now Paul should lose 100 pounds since he skinny shamed your body first.
Thank you for pointing that out, I noticed that too
we have to all be careful about the body shaming going both ways, I know for sure a man would never want to hear that his arms are skinny that’s just not cool
I would laugh but I put on 40 pounds during covid so this is my future... For now, luckily, I have no bib shorts I would fit in, so everything is OK :-)
I gained pounds during covid too man. Many many people did. Let's work it off slowly (is what I tell myself)
Phil, you're a good sport for this one.
So was he!
As a life long 240ish pound person this is such a fantasy I've always had. Love it!!!!
Paul Ripke, who I might remember from Formula1 Mercedes AMG F1 race weekends. Good to see a familiar in my So Cal community!
Imagine how fast you would be if you did that once a week 😳 💀 🤔
Hard to sense how good a good rider is. I know that ride. Amazing how fast/smooth he went up with that weight he’s not used to. I guess with those miles, in your legs, it just gets harder without peddling stroke falling apart.
10:30 I'd literally rather be sitting on it forgetting to unclip, and eating pavement, vs even just seeing it fall over on video! lol
In slow mo! On repeat! Painful viewing
Nice Udo Böltz reference at 14:17 😂 "Quäl dich du Sau!!"
Ulle still had a lower cadence by default than Phil with 255 Pounds😂
I’d love to try this although on a lesser climb. Props for not actually puking.
This happens to me at the start of every season
During the squat sequence the guy should have scream in German, that would be hilarious.
Really enjoyed that. Have recently expanded, I appreciated the effort.
I'm not volunteering for a repeat of this "experiment" with you.
Nice that you know how we 200 lb plus guys feel on hills.... Oh and when you are pushing 6'4" like me, you are also a big sail when it is windy....
Phil 'Lactigo: You put it after, I like to put it before' Gaimon
Love that Chopin Waltz. Very fun piece to play.
I can’t even tell you how long I’ve wanted to see something like this! I’m a TT specialist, former bodybuilder and power lifter. And my wife likes my upper body. Kudos to Phil for even trying!!
Great video and sheds great light on the plight of heavy riders. Would love to see one with an ebike calibrated to make someone 260 feel like 180 or 165. More motivation to lose the extra insulation. Great comedy also and way to make public amends for public comments.
"No, you're wearing it the rest of the night."
Phil laughs.
"No, you are." Pulls gun. "Now walk up those four flights of stairs to the dining room at the winery. Who's laughing now, cookie man?"
I am so bummed! You guys rode right past my house (intersection of Marguerite and Sandcastle)! If I had known you were going to be doing this I would have rode with you to cheer you on! BTW, that is like the only Cat 3 climb in this area!
lol, „Quäl dich, du sau“ at 14:18 means something like „make yourself suffer, you pig“ in german :D
what about getting a bike with front and rear racks and just adding panniers and 100lbs of gear like your going on an epic round the world camping trip? cycle tourist vs big guy race!
As a 260-pound lard ass myself, I loved this! Although I would love to flirt with 400 watts!
QuÄl DiCh dU SaU
I literally laughed out loud at least twice, and snorted milk through my nose once. But we're laughing with you, buddy, not at you. Promise. Reminds me of my first few times hauling a month's worth of cat food and litter for my three furballs on a 40 lb comfort hybrid. Uphill. Makes any road bike ride seem a bit easier.
Paul, you're the man!
Amazing, you dug deep… hope you do that segment again without said weights 👊🏻
Phil had to be Houdini at the end. What a great sport.
I've ridden some of the same climbs that Phil has ridden and I have to remind myself that he weighs what I weighed in elementary school, so comparisons on Strava have to be given some context. Thanks for making this video to make that context even more interesting!
Damn, that was funny. Being part German myself, it makes sense I was chuckling in lockstep with Paul while Phil was dying 1000 deaths. The schadenfreude was real.
This is just mean!!! Put some heavy ankle weights on Phil, hehehe.
Phil, your would have loved the downhill with the weights on. #speed
As a 230lb mountain biker, I do appreciate this.
Paul is a fuckin joy.
Also... this is the same pain as bikepacking.
Ha noted I’ll avoid bikepacking
True cycling friends are the ones who mock you while you're suffering up a hill, and then ride circles around you when you're at the top puking your guts out!
Vibes of getting viciously heckled by your friends during a cross race. 😀
I vote a new Paul challenge every month :D
I'm not overweight (but heavy compared to a pro cyclist), but seeing Phil suffer and beg for the top like I do on a tough climb was pretty awesome to see!
The Chopin entrance in to the shop - fkn bravo. That was cool.
You find that drafting behind the “big guy” is the way to go. I tell folks that I’m breaking wind when I’m in front .. then they back off .. LOL
What was the PSI in ur tires? Did u add air ? It looks like you were riding on ur rims.. Welcome to my world.. ugh.. This is very interesting. I’ve watched it several times.
9:17 That's the most motivational quote Germans have.
14:17 The louder the better!
I’m 210 lbs & as a bigger cyclist this warmed my heart ❤️
Don't you love being shouted at by a German!
I enjoy the usual videos, but this was something quite different, and I liked it even more!
I've always been a decent climber, because I weigh less than 150, but at the same time knowing some of the guys I beat up hills are making way more power. This really puts what they are doing in perspective.
This was great. I always get jealous of the skinny guys. I love climbing despite the effects of gravity on me. I'm currently 208, was out in LA a few weeks ago. Managed to do the Encanto>39>GMR>Baldy lifts route in about 3:45. Long time to be climbing but was worth it. Cookie 🍪 corner was a bitch!!
"I'm getting Cancellara'd over here." Love this whole thing!
15:19 that sweat drop lol
Ha ha ha!!! That’s got to be the funniest episode! Especially since I’m a 135 Kg cyclist. So add an additional 40 lbs. and we can go up GMR. J/K. Great job sir. Appreciate your videos.
Great video, Phil. I love Paul. He needs to be in more of your videos!
thanks, I'm laughing sooo hard
Unlike weight in a backpack, real fat needs blood and oxygen so your heart has to pump that much harder.
He is a tough coach... funny stuff. Thanks for sharing. Peace
16:20 made my day 😂
Thank you for suffering for our enjoyment!
Note to Paul: Everybody knows that Emily is nicer than Phil. And Creature is giving him a run for second place.
thanks Phil, that was funny. I enjoyed the video right from the start. It was good to watch the two of you poke fun at yourselves. Understanding the German was cherry on the cake
lol the car that backs up to check on him when he's planted firmly to the sidewalk at 16:04
Might be your best video ever. Honestly.
Points about this video.
1) dropping the bike, don't worry it's a Disc bike, they get "dropped" all the time.
2) it's not fair to push a ex-pro when they don't have their EPO.
3) maybe if the fat guy got off the e-bike he wouldn't be fat?
Ok, I'm done.
Dude, he is overweight, 260 pounds is a ton for his height and build. If he squared away his diet and eating routine, he would enjoy cycling and his life waaaaaay more. I used to be 240, and dropped 60 pounds myself, and I never, ever want to go above 200 pounds again.
This might be the best video ever! Welcome to the world of us regular humans. I love Paul, would love to slog up a hill with him!!!
Why is it okay to comment on how skinny someone is but you can’t mention about someone being overweight 🤔
With friends like this, who needs friends?
Unfair test for Phil. Paul is much bigger guy, his "in-shape" weight is probably around 200 lb. So, his extra weight is 60 lb, which is 30% extra. Phil should have added 30% to his body weight, which is 45 lb, not 100 lb...