The Ultimate Ensemble Stars Iceberg Explained
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- Опубліковано 18 гру 2023
- 2 years ago, an iconic video dropped on UA-cam, explaining the Ensemble Stars iceberg. Two years later, another one appears...
I just want to thank everyone who helped me make this video. Thanks Ultimate Iceberg OP, as well as all the members of r/ensemblestars who chimed in to help fill out some of the headings! Also, stream RAINBOW CIRCUS by fine. - Розваги
rinne being voted the least marryable character when he's one of the *most* married characters in enstars is actually hilarious. poor niki
Maybe he is unmarriable because he is already married? lol
14:12 Fun fact! The only reason Wataru's hair is so long is because every time he tries to cut it, it attacks him and takes away his scissors.
Hai sora+~~
Help that’s even better 😭😭😭
HI SORA
hi yappingstarlight
Imagine being a hairdresser and your client's hair starts attacking you
a law student making the 2nd enstars iceberg video should be on the next iceberg
so true bro
At 1:00:46, the information about Mademoiselle is inaccurate. Shu developed his identity disorder (which is heavily implied to be OSDD-1B in specific) as a young child; and therefore he met Mademoiselle during this time. This is stated in the ! Era story, “Victoria”. Shu has been able to talk to Mademoiselle since WAY BEFORE the War, and she can be seen in the Yumenosaki craft room during “Reminiscence Marionette”. The reason why many people think Mademoiselle was formed after the war is because she only began to front in the presence of other people after Shu experienced more trauma from the war. He essentially became non-verbal for a period of time, and needed Mademoiselle to talk to others when he couldn’t, which is what Shu may have meant when he tells Mika that he “split a part of himself and gave it to Mademoiselle”in “Victoria”. However, she has always been with Shu because if she wasn’t, the way in which Shu’s OSDD is portrayed in the story would be EXTREMELY inaccurate. sorry for the rant 😅
Im not sure either but is this because he was bullied as a little child?
fun fact the 💣 threat to yumenosaki was ibara 😭😭😭
ofc it was
Who would’ve thought
Anzu isn't really a self insert; she's her own character (silent protagonist) & actually considered the 5th trickstar member!
And extra, siblings :
- Leo's sister from Ensemble Girls, Ruka Tsukinaga
- Kohaku's sister who's often called "Sakura", she appeared in the story dressed as kohaku because she's a master of disguise (Kohaku also has several other older sisters!!)
- Adonis's unnamed older sisters that were mentioned in the (!) manga adaptation
- Mika's *alleged* long lost twin sister Suzu Kuromori from Ensemble Girls
Another thing about Rinne being voted unmarriable - Japanese yumejoshi (self shipping) fans love him actually lol!! He's made it on the yearly top 100 yume list for about 3 years now, being described as clingy-type who would bring up marriage often and try to propose ^^
Quite funny that Kohaku's 2nd nee-san is referred as "Sakura" since Jun also calls Kohaku as such for misreading the way Kohaku's family name is written
Sadly another VA got replaced. Mitsuru's old seiyuu was Junya Ikeda who got arrested for scamming people's older family members by pretending to be them for money. Daiki Kobayashi is the one who replaced him and he is known to be Saki in Idolmaster Side M and Mitsuba in Hanako-kun. Another thing to add to the iceberg.
35:56 refers to the 5th anniversary stream where all of the va’s joined in to answer a question! though izumi & tetora’s vas had really bad issues with connection. kanata’s va was actually in the shower to feel more like him while answering his question
Ooooh that’s what it was! I couldn’t find anything about that so I just put the TikTok meme, especially since it was combined with the Izumi meme and I thought that made sense!
Enstars in itself is considered a Josiemuke game, a game targeted to girls, but it’s not otome. All otome is Joseimuke, but not all joseimuke is otome. Joseimuke is an umbrella term for content and media amied at women. This may include otome games, BL, shojo/josei manga etc.
52:10 I think it’s worth mentioning there was also a thread on twitter about midori’s older brother, which included an edited sprite of akiomi used to represent him & dialogue between midori and chiaki that was later revealed to be written in the notes app that MANY people believed 😭
HELP THATS OOMF😭
@@elliebellie8684 LMAOO
no way i know what you're talking about. I BELIEVED IT UNTIL NOW... 😭thanks for letting me know...
Omg that's oomf... (I fell for it)
SHINOBUS HAREM HELP
i’ve been in this fandom for nearly a year and i still can’t believe that this is an idol game… man what did i get myself into 😥
Never did I think upon first downloading Enstars that I would one day be mentioned in an iceberg for it! Enstars is such a wild franchise and this whole video is a testament to that. 👏
Your covers actually slay so hard! You should be proud of yourself for carrying the Enstars + Vocaloid/Synth V fandom!
14:07 just wanna let u know the “v” in risky venus is not replaced with a “p” but rather a “b” !
After a few weeks and a lot of input from the commentors, I will now make a master comment (?) with corrections and due credits!
At 1:00:46 Shu's disorder is heavily implied to be OSDD-1B, with it developing as a child. Mademoiselle only began to front in the presence of other people due to the trauma Shu faced in the war. Original comment by @crystaloccult
At 35:56 The heading actually refers to the 5th anniversary livestream. Izumi's voice actor had terrible wifi connection and Kanata's voice actor was actually in the shower to get into character. I guess the points I made could be considered separate points instead. Original comment by @chialeos
At 14:07 the "v" in you-know-what is actually replaced by "b". I knew that. I don't know why I said it was replaced by "p". It would've been funnier if it was tho. Original comment by @hnnfudq
For the FULL Tatsumi app store review at 9:20 you may look no further than this very comment section, thanks to @hypnosismicrophone!
TRANSLATOR TIME WOOOO!!!
For translations of Sanctuary (36:59 and 39:08) and RELOADED (Idol of the Dead) (44:03) please thank the wonderful @watatomo!
For the translation of Wedding March that is featured at 1:09:23, please thank 310mc!
For the translation of Nagisa's 1st substory at 19:47, please thank landofzero!
For the translation of Black Snow at 23:19, please thank nenosuns/Mia!
Ok, I think that's all. If it's not then I can always come back and edit this. Thanks everyone for your input!
I can't pin this because I don't wanna give Google my ID :( I hope this is actually findable
49:47 chiaki’s reveal that he was a lifeguard makes his comment to midori even funnier because in theory he would already have known how to do mouth to mouth prior to meeting kanata, so no one really knows what kanata actually taught him (or if he just allowed kanata to “teach” him again)
also 45:01 just wanted to mention that the information regarding kanata’s mother was actually revealed in the altered event rather than wisteria!! we had to wait a long time for that :’)
NO FUCKING WAY I MADE THE RINNE GENSHIN TWEET
the og one too. how do i handle this fame
Smile for the camera ⭐️
OOMF
@@starlightparadesWHO IS THIS
@@hiyonyan I made that up sorry I don’t think we’re oomfs
Emerald planet beatmap i think is pretty tame nowadays we've gotten worse but it was also the first one so it caught basically everyone off guard. I was there. I clicked play on it without knowing anything and it was so scary.
Idk if this is mentioned but fun fact : the story of Submarine was originally called Sacrifice & Souma's family was gonna try to kill Kanata.
Damn this was long... I also wonder just how much you were able to gather because I myself tried to search up everything but couldn't find as much so thank you for making this 🙏 As of Anzu, I remember how she wasn't well-liked due to self-insert problems, not liking her personality and because of her interacting with the boys, which is more on the BL side of fans. Anzu actually isn't as much of a self-insert as her brother is in engirls because she has a lot of lore written in engirls, with Anzu's brother seemingly there essentially to partially clean up the mess Anzu made. Anzu's personality was a rather shy and quiet one, though she is more depressed as due to being the "head" of a rebellion to reform her previous school, she became a target of bullying starting from her teachers who used such opportunity to make Anzu leave the school on her own accord. Though idk the details of bullying, it must've so rough as Anzu became completely broken, continuing so even in ! era of enstars story. When Anzu had to sing and dance on Rei's request, then being criticized, it could be a trigger for her to the bullying she suffered, and may have seen it as a way to ridicule herself and cry, which was of course not Rei's intention. Subaru, Hokuto and Makoto were the first ones to speak to Anzu when she expected no one to approach her, especially when she's trying to hide in a corner to not bother anyone. The importance of Trickstar to her is rather immense because they essentially sort of gave a new life for Anzu, saying how idols saved her and would slave herself to them in order to repay them, even if she collapses
This is crazy, a whole hour of enstars obscure/ questionable facts
I love the way you explained stuff, and the photo edits and video editing are so well done!
Hope all your favs come home in 1 pull and good luck on your law degree!
I will never regret downloading Enstars on a sunny day in July idk which year
THE FACT YOU USED MAKOTOS CARDS WHEN YOU SAID BORING AND MID MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD OH MY GOD
there needs to be more enstarrie lore videos thank you for this op
LOVE THIS VID! LOVE THIS ICEBERG! ok so there's a little more to "veggie boy and meat boy" i'm pretty sure those are what niki called midori and adonis once in a story! and "twitter roleplay" makes me think of the june 29 2023 roleplay, where peopple made their profile pictures headshots from the anime and ra*bits and knights had a war. GUYS I LOVE THE AkATTSUKI KILLED FIFTH MEMBER OF RABITS HOAX SO MUCH actually! kanatas ancestors were the relatives of the people who were cannibalized iirc
51:50 AMBERHONEYBEE NOT ONLY MAKES VOCALOID COVERS, BUT THEY ALSO MAKE UTAU VOICEBANK COVERS FOR ENSTARS CHARACTERS💕💕💕my favorite is the crazyB bug cover!!!
I really like this kind of videos, enstars lore it’s really interesting and as someone who’s been trying to read most stories it’s funny to point to the screen and say “hey I read that one”
Also, subakasa mention…
Thanks for making this! I'm waiting for Christmas to start and needed something to stop me from chewing the drywall. Christmas is now in 10 minutes and I had a really fun time with this video. Gonna spend the last ten minutes talking about the Sakumas for fun. :)
Big fan of the Sakuma lore that was included in this. A lot of Rei and Ritsu's issues come from miscommunication and also their home life. Ritsu had always been a sickly child; Rei was bedridden when he was younger already, but Ritsu had it even worse. Their family is implied to be very cold and they worship the vampire mythos themselves to the point of neglecting their children and letting them stay sick. Rei was all Ritsu had as a weak child who was probably expected to die young. Rei promised to stick by him no matter what, but during the pre-war era, he broke that promise to travel the world behind his family's back. He couldn't tell anyone because his family would actively try to stop him--if Ritsu were "cured," he would be excommunicated from the family. So he snuck off overseas under the guise of studying abroad. It made Ritsu feel as if he had been abandoned; that sacred promise between them was broken because Rei seemed like he was gallivanting off and abandoning his younger brother (who had never had anyone else, except maybe Mao).
Going off into headcanon territory, Rei probably never helped patch his relationship with Ritsu at that time because he was depressed and also ashamed for failing. He was never able to find that cure. Rei was revealed to have been pretty suicidal at that time (AKA time he jumped off the roof of Yumenosaki for fun) and that he also did not stop the war or what happened to the Eccentrics because he believed he deserved it and was too exhausted to fight back. He wanted to be smeared in the spotlight like that so it could all finally end. He may have even worsened his relationship with Ritsu on purpose, especially as Ritsu ended up helping Eichi plan his brother's execution by suggesting they force Rei to travel overseas until he was exhausted.
Sakuma family lore is interesting. They don't want either Rei or Ritsu to be idols. Ritsu mentions that the family is just waiting for Rei to fail so that they can drag him back to the family and make him be head. Their family does not support their idol work... but anyway, that's just a tangent. Rei and Ritsu's relationship is colored by their home life, which is implied to be very cold, and their relationship has a lot of ups and downs. But they're getting better. I love them.
ITS CHRISTMAS! Thanks for letting me ramble about the Sakumas :)
56:35 something that i noticed while reading setsubun was that the twins dialogue seemed to echo what real life twins June and Jennifer Gibbons aka the silent twins said about themselves.
TY for making this! there were a lot of stuff I didnt know. I already thought this game was dark but how deep it is... wow
50:56 IIRC one of the devs intervievs or something like that had actually confirmed that they have a whole room(?) for taking photos to use as references for their cards and showed pictures of process for the start dash subaru cards where they had to use a 3d model for pose reference instead because none of them could do whatever subaru is doing with his leg. Cant really search for it rn but you can still find it online
this actually helped me understand a lot more about the Godfather. tysm!
its christmas soon keito
so what eichi
so what, eichi.
Merry Christmas. As an idol, I can't keep bringing up the temple. I'll enjoy Christmas Eve as well.
Thank you so much for making this!!
An hour well spent, thank you very much!!
Enstars is so wild and massive that this iceberg had facts from stories that I've already read that had me going HUH?!?!?!?! thank you so much for making this, it was the most focused hour watching something i've ever had lol
Love the effort put into this gal
I was so excited for this because I’m relatively new to enstars (I started playing around a year ago) and I wanted to know more lore
You are amazing for this
Thank you so much for making this! This was such an entertaining vid!
I'M GLAD SOMEONE MADE THISSS
I keep reading this iceberg and thinking someone should make a video about it
HELP I CANT BELIEVE I WATCHED THE WHOLE THING IN ONE SITTING- this was so well made and interesting to watch as a new enstarrie omg, your voice is also so soothing
Great job on this! Glad to see it come out after all the reddit posts~
Thank you for this video! You're so well spoken so it was lovely to listen to. I have to admit, I find the mass graves the darkest part of the story, especially with how the rooftop was blocked off.
Also, I really wish Ensemble Girls would make a comeback!! It's a little known fact that Anzu was a student of the school there and was the face of her own revolution.
4:30 sorry this might (definitely is) be the basic main in me, but they're not "basic and music era". basic is still very much a thing! it's old and new era! that's why even on basic you can access ! and !! content, but old era is a different game model and stuff. we MIGHT be getting a !!! era with everyone moving up a year, so then it that case it would become first, second, and third era, but right now it's just old and new 😅 sorry but it bugs me sm how people call is basic and music era because basic is still VERY MUCH a thing and for example with the tri colour missions on jp, basic gets different stories from music!
thank you for the video! I listened to it while im grinding on soumas event on eng, and i really enjoyed your narration
TY for this 🩷🩷🩷
Pomkastle's iceberg video was my introduction to enstars so the updated versions of iceberg feels like getting in touch with an old friend
As someone who played enstars for a year now I found out a lot more from this video thank you 😭
THE IDOLM@STER MENTIONEND !!!!!!! PLAY DEARLY STARS !!!
Great video, would love to see you talk about the shinkai cult
Thank youuu
This very video pushed to back to this silly little game that I quit 2 years ago and lead me to find out that my account was deleted off the game and made me sob in agony but I stayed resilient and started a brand new one despite losing all of my high ahh efforts into that one account with the ACANTHE MIKA WTF but now as my new acc is settling in well I am enjoying this silly game as much as ever but feeling a bit of fomo bc the game story is in climax and I missed all the good parts in the past 2 years I was away. So thanks! Love my man Kuro
You , lowkey sound like Vertin, not complaining, I think its cool and funny, and somehow hearing your voice is making me more focused lmao
Idk why but your voice is so nice to listen to 😭🤍🤍
i never knew posting ssps was against the thing lol. i never posted it but i remember looking on youtube for one to send to my best friend before just recording it and sending it myself
also my best friend and i watched road to show when we visited nyc for a weekend and i think that was very iconic of us
Me watching this as someone who just started playing The game is crazy. Especially the war and The story- kidnapping??Murder??there was a war 😭???
welcome to ES !!
Full tatsumi review :
Hiiii I hate Tatsumi. (All based on English translations for the game) I don't have a great love for Christianity as a very queer person and as a person who just generally doesn't like the majority of Christians and how they use their religion to pretend they're superior so Tatsumi constantly talking about God isn't fun. Like I would be fine with it if it came up here and there but omg he literally doesn't stop talking about it. Mayoi is an interesting character but I feel like he's like too self deprecating. Like my man won't shut up about how he's a pathetic insect who doesn't deserve life. Aira's fine. He can get really really whiney at times but I like his dynamic with Hiro. I love Hiro. He's my everything. I understand why they chose to focus on their group as they're a bunch of underperformers who are truly figuring it all out (giving the audience a great look into the world of this game.) Only issue is that compared to other idol groups, they're literally so boring and unlikable. Like maybe it's just me, but I would prefer the story focus on literally anyone else. That's why I tend to not touch the story unless a mission asks for it. But luckily the rest of the game is very enjoyable and we stan Mikashu.
As a TatsumiP I think this person just read the first chapter and decided they have a good grasp on the entire cast.
Very awful. Even the new enstarries who just read the wiki pages have a better understanding 😭
@@hypnosismicrophonenot a TatsumiP but agreed, the man readily says "yeah im going to hell" in Aira's event. He doesnt think he's superior at all-
so funny this was in my recommended lmao. i havent been an enstarrie for years now but i made the nazuna image used in the original iceberg
40:05 i gasped I love crossover ships (stan Kohaku x Saburo from hypmic)
55:37 it's a technicality but hypnosis mic is not an idol game!! they're not idols they're rappers having turf wars (that are technically propaganda for the in-universe government)
1:03:22 Ibara's missing 😭😭
LMAO I SAW THIS UHH BLUE HAIR GUY FROM HYPMIC THAT KINDA LOOKS LIKE NIKI BEING SHIPPED WITH RINNE
@@kaeyaswife926 DICE YEAH THEY'RE BOTH GAMBLERS
I've seen this one Dice x Rinne shipper around Twitter PFFF I think these crossover AUs+ships are so fun personally I think I adopted BB into enstars universe 😭
@@pupperbirb BB are Mika's cousins trust
the ENTIRETY of tier 9…oh my god. as a newbie enstars fan, i didn’t think it’d go that dark 😭 poor hitsugi and negi…
In so happy I contributed 😭
59:35 a bit more of insight about Bishoujo senpai is that in Parallel World not only she was revealed to be an identity composed by different people, but also the creator of the concept, called bishoujo idea, was revealed to be a trans woman, more likely as a reference of how trans people are often the backbone of popular songs, artists and trends in the music industry and their influence in the idol industry
I LVOEO EJGSRIJ KIRARAIDEARU
bro they did NOT say enough about them
Wait. I'm confused now. Didn't Hajime personally know Bishoujo senpai? He said that he talk to her quite often and wanted Hajime to be her successor. He also went to greet her in Halloween ! era. If she's just a concept, then what does that mean about her relationship with Hajime???
@@yukishiro3287 i believe they went back and retconned hajime personally meeting bishoujo in the old stories, but they still had a relationship (they, being hajime and idea)
24:12 just wanna add my own fun bit of trivia here, in game one of the locations they visit exists irl and its 101 collins street in melbourne!
Perfect timing as I recently re-installed Enstars for 283873th time 💀
The lore is so intriguing. Sadly I witnessed the wiki translation removal..
7:47 Paro paro G was a popular meme here in the Philippines back then. "Paro paro" is the tagalog translation of "butterfly."
(maybe inaccurate, based on personal observation)
The origin of Paro Paro G all started because of the anime "Tokyo ravengers". It was a hit back then. Which is kinda bad at some point due to how normalized, romanticized, and glamorized the anime's concept is by the internet that it kinda spawned a lot of gang wars in some cities.
(The anime was also hated by a lot of anime fans, calling it overrated and mid. The main character was also mocked a lot and got compared to other characters such as Subaru from Rezero. And the joke "It's all Mikey's Fault" was popular but grew cringe and overused overtime)
For some reason this anime also inspired people to make their own gangs and stuff like that. Paro Paro G is one of them. I believe. Now, I don't know if Paro Paro G group was made a lot earlier but the original meme appeared later after Tokyo Ravengers aired so I kinda think that the members behind it were inspired by the anime. The original video which is also the source of the original vocals of the song is a guy saying their group name and kind of promoting it together with a younger member. FYI this group, as far as I am aware was not doing anything harmful. It was just some silly group. This group was also memed because of their motto: "Fly High Butterfly" and became an online sensation.
The voice of the guy in the video saying "Paro Paro G" was later used by DJs as vocals to create of what we now know as the song remix. We call these type of songs as "budots". And trust me, this song was EVERYWHERE not only because it was a meme but also because this song genre was a hit especially for boomers. What the characters are doing in this dance at 7:49 is reminiscent to the "budots" dance, a type of dance that boomers would perform when these types of songs are played in a party, dance off, or so. And maybe that's probably why the meme creator put that song there. I myself don't even know why that happened. Sometimes Filipino humor can be random and weird, it's almost everyday that you'll see anime characters and famous people get slandered.
So yeah, it happened a long time ago and I'm not actually sure if this is accurate since it's all based on my personal observation. So if there is any fellow Filipino 'round here please correct me if I'm wrong.
the inconsistency in stories really pisses me off. i remember being so intrigued as to how rinne in the main !! story calls kanata "god" or basically makes a nickname out of his title only for that idea to be completely dropped in a random 4* story where hiyori reveals to rinne that kanata is a god that may or may not be able to grant wishes. i was like ???? girl i thought you knew this but apparently not :,)
The desc is so true rainbow circus is so underrated 😭
17 august 2021 is oddly memorable
I love how the Mayoi asmr video got here
5 second of eiwata content has motivated me to illustrate lovely yaoi. Thank you
if i learned anything from this video it is that mayoi is one of the sweetest characters and he deserved to be protected at all costs ☹
Crazy to think that if i didnt go through a tough breakup, i wouldnt be blessed with this amount of knowledge
I lowkey want to show this iceberg vid to my friend who has little to no interest in enstars at all (except for undead since they remind her of vkei)
there is no way i finished this video in one sitting 😭
5:55 don't do my baby makoto like that 😭
thank god u dontr have creepy music
I LOVE YOUU
STOP IT I LITERALLY IMAGINED THE AH SHIT HERE WE GO AGAIN MEME WHEN I SAW THIS VID IN MY RECOMMENDED AND YOU PUT IT IN THE VID LAAOAIAIA9IAIA9IUhelpme
i love ur voice omg 😭
We thought that Kanata likes water because his mom isn't alive.....But the recent look back gacha story reveals that it's because the only time she held him was when she tried to kidnap him when he was a child to escape from their cult on a boat and Kanata associates the sea to her.....SHE DIDNT TAKE HIM BECAUSE MADARA AND SOUMA TRIED TO SAVE HIM THINKING HE WAS GETTING KIDNAPPED BY BAD PEOPLE AND KANATA'S MOM GOT RELIEVED THAT HE HAD PEOPLE WILLING TO PROTECT HIM 😭 mom why
WHAT THE HELL WHAT STRY WAS THAT
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I don’t even play enstars but the lore is so interesting LMAOO
i love my silly little idol game
THE MAYOI ASMR MENTION OH MY GOD
i was waiting for the twins to be brought up in the lookalike section and then they werent and it made me laugh, lol
im very VERY new. i took one try a while ago before i saw people talking about it, but forgot and deleted the game due to not using the game....
so, as a newbie: do i NEED to play !/ game 1 first? or is it like.. a reboot? i dont have space for both games, so i can only fit one..
The original game is not available anymore. If you’re fine with getting the Japanese game, then Enstars Basic is pretty much the same thing, but honestly if you just get Music (like me) you’ll be more than fine!
@@SelinaAttempts oh okay, thank you !!
omgomg enstars iceberg lore 2.0???
Help- the war photos lmao
3:25 I mean, they are alive..."well" is kind of debatable...🤣
YAYYY I ERALLY ENJOYED THIS!!1!!!
"What happens in Valkyrie stays in Valkyrie" killed me xD
i screamed everytime i saw mayoi
26:23 Mika is so real for that
Who else got upset whenever you saw a fake genshin leak because your favorite was a 4 star
13:02 while enstars isn't an otome game, it is a josei game (a game aimed at adult women)! just something i thought was neat :D
Still waiting for Ronnie Anderson to come out… Fontaine has been out for months, where is he 😔
LMAO I CANT BELIEVE SUBAKASA MADE IT INTO THIS VID THATS CRAZY
im only a minute in and i doubt this'll be in here but i started a minor theory of the sanrio music franchise Show By Rock could be canon in ensemble stars due to the fact that sanrio is cannon,
"All of the 5 eccentrics are alive and well"
I agree with alive, but. . . well ?? are they really ??
Study time