Game Theory: Exposing Destiny's LOST PLOT!

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  • Traveler is EVIL! ► j.mp/TravelerBad
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    You think you know the story of Destiny, but do you really? Who IS the Traveler? What are you even really fighting for? This episode will shake even the most hardcore Destiny's fans' understanding of the game they're playing. Who's side are you on, anyway?
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  • @GameTheory
    @GameTheory  8 років тому +4175

    Make like a tree and leaf...A LIKE!
    Long live the Brotherhood ;)

    • @SakuraStallion
      @SakuraStallion 8 років тому +9

      +The Game Theorists That was such a bad pun...
      I love it.

    • @thaip.120
      @thaip.120 8 років тому +9

      +The Game Theorists THANK YOU FOR FINALLY DOING THIS ONE! :) :)))))

    • @reecepokorny9323
      @reecepokorny9323 8 років тому +26

      +The Game Theorists HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

    • @nhorvath6259
      @nhorvath6259 8 років тому +33

      +The Game Theorists Oh no, he's one of them too.

    • @mrfahrenheit8417
      @mrfahrenheit8417 8 років тому +5

      MatPat I love you and all (much homo) but get out. NOW.

  • @EBjeebies1081
    @EBjeebies1081 5 років тому +734

    “I only said I spoke for the Traveler... I never said it spoke to me.” - The Speaker (2014-2017)

    • @knalb_
      @knalb_ 4 роки тому +33

      He was a baby he never deserved to die so quickly
      He’s 3 years old

    • @vanzwho854
      @vanzwho854 4 роки тому +8

      F

    • @creativenamegoeshere2562
      @creativenamegoeshere2562 3 роки тому +4

      I never got attached.

    • @dav_dmn
      @dav_dmn 3 роки тому +8

      damn, the red legion (cabal) did em guud

    • @chaosincarnate7304
      @chaosincarnate7304 2 роки тому +1

      @Liam Lavelle Maybe he was supposed to live for 1 year? Who knows.

  • @izdone
    @izdone 4 роки тому +1477

    You’re wrong, we don’t just fight mindlessly, we fight for *L O O T*

    • @vanzwho854
      @vanzwho854 4 роки тому +58

      I have been grinding for months now... Why do I even need this spare reashions god roll? I've lost track of time, I've lost all my emotions, and I've lost my mind. I don't even like playing gambit but I have to keep going even if the darkness takes over me completely.
      -litteraly every guardian

    • @gandorias8641
      @gandorias8641 3 роки тому +4

      Playing nightfall just to get the same exotic every time
      Me: am I a joke to you

    • @zanereeves6482
      @zanereeves6482 3 роки тому +4

      FOE THE LOOT

    • @tubbysza
      @tubbysza 3 роки тому +3

      We get the loot to keep killing. An endless cycle of killing.

    • @kriegenjoyer6913
      @kriegenjoyer6913 3 роки тому

      Lol

  • @aidenlamarche1221
    @aidenlamarche1221 3 роки тому +517

    It’s scary how close he is to being right now that the darkness gave us stasis

    • @ryozo_
      @ryozo_ 2 роки тому +35

      according to the nine and the drifter the difference doesnt matter

    • @Phoenix-qu4wg
      @Phoenix-qu4wg 2 роки тому +20

      13:57 it says a group led by Crow. Crow is a character in D2 now, I think mat pat might b right-

    • @Silphianable
      @Silphianable 2 роки тому +9

      @@Phoenix-qu4wg after d1 came out a playtester leaked details of destiny 1 before it was revamped mid development. originally you'd encounter the crow early on and hed lead you to rasputin, in exo form as originally you'd see this exo and it would be revealed that under rasputins core (look up hidden room under rasputin for visual reference) was a machine that would allow rasputin to take a physical form, and the missions would lead you through the story and it would be revealed that not only the speaker was evil but so was the traveller

    • @tangent.arc38618
      @tangent.arc38618 2 роки тому

      eramis could have been right

    • @axtchaos8719
      @axtchaos8719 2 роки тому +4

      @@ryozo_ "I said I spoke for the traveler, i never said it spoke for me"
      That red war campaign line hits different now.

  • @alyxlynch1981
    @alyxlynch1981 5 років тому +607

    ah, the good ol, days.
    *joins fireteam
    "you got gjallarhorn?"
    "no.."
    *kicked

    • @jasperzz2859
      @jasperzz2859 4 роки тому +3

      Same thing but now izanagis burden

    • @30na89
      @30na89 4 роки тому +1

      @Łyonel Kahee-ros i want that result screen back in d2..

    • @erenarmin6403
      @erenarmin6403 4 роки тому +3

      OMNIGAL

    • @alyxlynch1981
      @alyxlynch1981 2 роки тому

      @Thatoneguy still can't believe they brought it back

    • @BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989
      @BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989 2 роки тому

      @Thatoneguy Actually Ghally isn't a requirement as it was back then due to it's perk allowing other rocket launchers to have Ghally rounds. What I see more often demanded are Wellocks.

  • @cedricholcomb4187
    @cedricholcomb4187 5 років тому +2419

    Destiny 2 is out, cayde is dead, and more destiny theories must be made.

  • @llredfive7247
    @llredfive7247 Рік тому +104

    Watching this after the game awards light fall trailer I’m kinda scared how close he is

  • @BigAustin
    @BigAustin 4 роки тому +975

    Mat Pat: There isn't enough story.
    Me playing Destiny 2 Shadowkeep: Say sike right now.

    • @mirandabrown8271
      @mirandabrown8271 4 роки тому +59

      For a guy who likes deep lore he really doesn’t like destiny’s set up.

    • @DedlyAidan
      @DedlyAidan 4 роки тому +19

      ah i see a fellow 2019 steam player

    • @Sevastous
      @Sevastous 4 роки тому +12

      Shadowkeep felt a bit dissappointing.Forsaken already did it

    • @DedlyAidan
      @DedlyAidan 4 роки тому +20

      @@Sevastous forsaken was depressing Cayde-6 DIED HES THE BEST CHARACTER

    • @tyletcher8978
      @tyletcher8978 4 роки тому +5

      When you here the Darkness is your salvation👀

  • @Apidooom
    @Apidooom 8 років тому +654

    I think Activision is the real villain...

    • @pokemonkiller3570
      @pokemonkiller3570 8 років тому +1

      +Apidooom true

    • @lukejohnson6415
      @lukejohnson6415 8 років тому +7

      +Apidooom yes. play warframe better than destiny in every way

    • @MyBullet01
      @MyBullet01 8 років тому +1

      +Apidooom lol far from it bungie CEO is a scumbag who sold out his company

    • @knarwhals
      @knarwhals 8 років тому

      lol

    • @Odysseusx86
      @Odysseusx86 8 років тому +2

      +Fernando Ferreyra A scumbag working for a scumbag company, should be a nice fit

  • @ConnorChameleonShow
    @ConnorChameleonShow 8 років тому +185

    So technically, the Traveller is the Death Star but with a white coating so no one suspects Darth Vader

    • @connorcalder8191
      @connorcalder8191 8 років тому +14

      +ConnorChameleonShow exactly Destiny 2 - The Return of A New Hope (The Empire awakens) confirmed.

    • @wiktorwyka666
      @wiktorwyka666 8 років тому +6

      best theory so far on this comments section xxD

    • @ConnorChameleonShow
      @ConnorChameleonShow 8 років тому

      Wiktor Wyka
      thanks xD but its quite obvious sooo

    • @ConnorChameleonShow
      @ConnorChameleonShow 8 років тому

      Connor Calder
      yeeeesssss xD

    • @soldierorsomething
      @soldierorsomething 8 років тому +10

      White coating..like in a cake....and the cake is a lie!, omg

  • @Royal-fl2oe
    @Royal-fl2oe Рік тому +106

    How in the actual heck did he get this close based on like four lore entries? Incredibly impressive

    • @eranronen573
      @eranronen573 8 місяців тому +2

      He's so so wrong

    • @Royal-fl2oe
      @Royal-fl2oe 8 місяців тому +5

      @@eranronen573 well yeah ofc he’s wrong he’s making predictions from literal years in the past. Just saying the predictions he made were surprisingly close compared to the info he was given

    • @eranronen573
      @eranronen573 8 місяців тому +2

      @Royal-fl2oe not even about the predictions, he got some of the timeline wrong and misinterpreted some of the lore he read

    • @Royal-fl2oe
      @Royal-fl2oe 8 місяців тому +3

      @@eranronen573 👍

    • @khora3845
      @khora3845 2 місяці тому +1

      I mean, he misinterpreted the Card about the Exos' dream of the Deep Stone Crypt to represent all Guardians

  • @mee4644
    @mee4644 4 роки тому +178

    And we now know, with Shadowkeep, that the "Ghost Flower" was indeed manipulation. And that the reason the wound never healed, well, it's the Black Garden.

    • @fallen5983
      @fallen5983 4 роки тому +3

      i havent played shadowkeep yet because im broke but does it directly mention the ghost flower or is it something like a side mission you have to go out of the way to find or what

    • @mee4644
      @mee4644 4 роки тому +18

      @@fallen5983 It's more of a relation than it out right saying anything. At the end of Shadow keep, #warning# spoils may be ahead,
      the darkness tries to persuade you to its side through planting doubt in your mind (in da black garden). I simply see that as a similarity to the ghost flower persuading the other guardian whilst they were in the black garden. Just an assumption. If you want to know what happens in the end, though, I'd recommend playing or watching the final mission. Kinda bonkers.

    • @isaacdaffer1711
      @isaacdaffer1711 3 роки тому +2

      The same thing is happening with the Season of Arrivals.

    • @gabrielking7855
      @gabrielking7855 3 роки тому

      @@mee4644 youu

    • @mee4644
      @mee4644 3 роки тому +1

      @@temenochi6443 If you're going to light up a year old comment I had, at least use proper grammar. And I don't want to turn this into an argument over how to interpret what it said. It'll change from person to person.

  • @jackmoseby5922
    @jackmoseby5922 8 років тому +336

    i now see the traveler as the moon from majora's mask...

    • @-libertyprimev1-902
      @-libertyprimev1-902 8 років тому +7

      +jack moseby *plays dramatic music* *Gasp*

    • @258thHiGuy
      @258thHiGuy 8 років тому

      Implying that it wasn't exactly what it was the entire time

    • @Baclex
      @Baclex 8 років тому

      This.

    • @newrecru1t
      @newrecru1t 8 років тому

      +Cameron Perez Its called the *DRAMATIC STING EFFECT*

    • @_GLXC
      @_GLXC 8 років тому

      +jack moseby same here XDDD

  • @mpcollins1993
    @mpcollins1993 7 років тому +186

    The Guardians don't just kill. They also dance.

    • @ryanmcdonald9022
      @ryanmcdonald9022 7 років тому

      and t-bag

    • @rojoskies81
      @rojoskies81 7 років тому +3

      hobo joe that's a primary directive given to every guardian to do by the speaker, praise be to yevon.

    • @ricerice8940
      @ricerice8940 7 років тому +1

      And they evade annoyingly when they're a Nightstalker. OY.

    • @raxos787
      @raxos787 7 років тому

      guardians 'guard' the traveler pun intended

  • @PeytonSmith2006
    @PeytonSmith2006 3 роки тому +235

    Who is also here when beyond light is out

    • @julianarias2481
      @julianarias2481 3 роки тому +1

      Destiny will never die😈

    • @creativenamegoeshere2562
      @creativenamegoeshere2562 3 роки тому +2

      I have no time to explain why she had no time to explain!

    • @ShaesKyu
      @ShaesKyu 3 роки тому

      can’t believe i’m back. it feels so nostalgic

    • @rancidpotatos8226
      @rancidpotatos8226 3 роки тому +1

      Un-killable, matpat needs to make new theories about destiny 2

    • @jessicamassa9377
      @jessicamassa9377 3 роки тому

      @@rancidpotatos8226 if he does it'll be a bungo sponsored one off

  • @rivihk7304
    @rivihk7304 3 роки тому +129

    Go 5 years into future where you actually CAN wield darkness.

  • @parkermaisterra8532
    @parkermaisterra8532 7 років тому +329

    Fun fact: The Warmind (basically a super AI made for war) Rasputin was one of the first beings to discover about the coming darkness so it made plans to cripple the Traveler in case it would leave and so would force it to protect humanity if it didn't want to get killed.

    • @funkysportsbag
      @funkysportsbag 7 років тому

      source?

    • @pechytoloco
      @pechytoloco 7 років тому

      which grimoire card?

    • @defiantabyss9882
      @defiantabyss9882 7 років тому +5

      Alexander Profit he ran a bunch of simulations and he found out about the travelers departure, after all he gave all exos consciousness and he's basically a quantum computer. also, he gave Siva an order because he thought of the iron lords as enemies who were after SIVA (since they are the travelers chosen and have light. or he could've known Felwinter was a previous warlord and thought he was an enemy.). but as we know he lost control and went into a sleep mode until we woke him up again.

    • @ianlogrono7709
      @ianlogrono7709 7 років тому

      parker maisterra u

    • @gundyninor2450
      @gundyninor2450 7 років тому

      parker maisterra wow

  • @beans9732
    @beans9732 4 роки тому +291

    Matpat: *Destiny Rant*
    Me: Wot??
    “Checks release date*
    “Oh...”

    • @aviaviavian
      @aviaviavian 4 роки тому +2

      Honestly saem

    • @Lexy34234
      @Lexy34234 4 роки тому +2

      @@aviaviavian *same*

    • @thelatenightgamer2624
      @thelatenightgamer2624 4 роки тому +1

      lol anyone ranting now is just moaning unless they want more lore

    • @director00donut39
      @director00donut39 4 роки тому +1

      Not like he’s wrong, MATPAT hit it square on

    • @jasperzz2859
      @jasperzz2859 4 роки тому +4

      Wait... he didn’t talk about the hive and the deep, which is the darkness...

  • @pelicanpeppers
    @pelicanpeppers 3 роки тому +127

    Destiny 2 and we've killed multiple gods, learned the exos are actually of Vex origin, wield the so called Darkness as ice powers, and have now stepped into another war with the Cabal. Did I mention the Darkness wiped out a portion of the solar system again? Time for more theories MatPat

    • @jibanyanawesome8577
      @jibanyanawesome8577 Рік тому +3

      Now more since Levi is back and it seems like the traveler doesn’t like us.

    • @matthewholloway8703
      @matthewholloway8703 Рік тому

      @@jibanyanawesome8577 Oh its even worse now, it tried to leave and was just stuck with nowhere to go

    • @jibanyanawesome8577
      @jibanyanawesome8577 Рік тому

      @@matthewholloway8703 After Rasputin had to end himself for us.

    • @matthewholloway8703
      @matthewholloway8703 Рік тому

      @@jibanyanawesome8577 May he rest in pixels

    • @jibanyanawesome8577
      @jibanyanawesome8577 Рік тому

      @@matthewholloway8703 We salute that awesome robot

  • @BurnUp_
    @BurnUp_ 4 роки тому +219

    “ I speak for the traveler, but I never said it spoke to me.” -The Speaker
    Plus, according to Crota’s End it shows that the darkness seeks to destroy literally everything. And the fallen fighting Vex, Cabal, Taken, and Scorn shows that they just want to earn as much are as they can. The traveler was showed to have developed a sense of protectiveness to humans during D2’s campaign stopping Ghaul from destroying the Guardians.
    The light is much like a side of a war. Not the overall enemy, so it may have its faults but it developed a protectiveness for all life on its side, including The Spider and his army

    • @narrator8534
      @narrator8534 4 роки тому +8

      He made this 4 years ago he can't tell the future

    • @brysonkuervers2570
      @brysonkuervers2570 3 роки тому +7

      Then again it could be for more selfish motives. There was a lore entry in D1 from Rasputin’s POV. He detected the Traveler was going to leave the system as the Darkness arrived so he fired every weapon he could to disable it and force it to protect humanity, which it ended up doing because if it didn’t, it would’ve been wiped out too. I feel it partly wanted to protect us to further its motives. Ghaul had absorbed most of the Travelers Light, by destroying him it got it back which it the gave to us, it’s warriors. It is nice to see that the Traveler hasn’t moved since it awoke but could it be staying because it wants to, or because it has to? Only time will tell

    • @papercamera2989
      @papercamera2989 3 роки тому

      Bryson Kuervers it was a plan and we never saw if that happened or not

    • @kaimattermanipulation8585
      @kaimattermanipulation8585 2 роки тому

      he needs to update this theory.

    • @jibanyanawesome8577
      @jibanyanawesome8577 4 місяці тому

      The fact this was made before seraph… and by extension Lightfall…

  • @coryandrews9235
    @coryandrews9235 8 років тому +430

    Light is evil? What is this, DeathNote?

    • @jericho7173
      @jericho7173 8 років тому +10

      no its star wars

    • @jesseclark7105
      @jesseclark7105 8 років тому +8

      I was waiting for this comment to appear because I thought the exact same thing.

    • @jimmydean2157
      @jimmydean2157 8 років тому +12

      No, this is sparta

    • @irukaio
      @irukaio 8 років тому +3

      Good...good.

    • @TheEpicgamestime
      @TheEpicgamestime 8 років тому +17

      No, this is Patrick.

  • @BigSpazzard
    @BigSpazzard 3 роки тому +78

    Watching this video a week after beyond light came out and Guardians can literally wield darkness, went on a murder rampage after their friend was killed and have started talking to the darkness itself is so weird how Matpat was genuinely onto something 5 YEARS AGO... We need more theories from Matpat on destiny

    • @lowki5195
      @lowki5195 3 роки тому +4

      I can agree he was on something, but it has it's flaws such as the Pujari qoute actually being about Deep stone crypt and how exos were made as war machines.

    • @BigSpazzard
      @BigSpazzard 3 роки тому +1

      @@lowki5195 oh yeah definitely not 100% accurate, but it was shocking how on the right tracks he was

  • @creativenamegoeshere2562
    @creativenamegoeshere2562 3 роки тому +59

    Who else wishes matpat would make a new destiny 2 theory? Maybe one about stasis?

    • @williamklemp3764
      @williamklemp3764 8 місяців тому

      Between stasis and the new strand abilities I'm basically Begging MatPat for a new D2 theory lol

  • @LowIntSpecimen
    @LowIntSpecimen 4 роки тому +254

    "The line between Light and Dark grows ever thin. Do you know which side you're on?"
    Uldren Sov from one of the last cutscenes from Forsaken.
    Edit: Rewatching this theory, i'm prety sure the ghost fragment "Legend" is about Exo dreams, not specifically guardians.

    • @mirandabrown8271
      @mirandabrown8271 4 роки тому +7

      bruh bruh realistically mat is completely right. I mean... look at the lore from ‘graviton forfeit’

    • @Friedhumperdink
      @Friedhumperdink 4 роки тому +4

      My fav part of the gardeners lore is at the end where the darkness itself says “do not rush to tell me, I will come hear your answer myself” (or around that)
      It gives me mad goosebumps

    • @t-hamos9498
      @t-hamos9498 4 роки тому

      Yeah he said that

    • @Hestaka
      @Hestaka 3 роки тому

      "The line between light and dark is so very thin, do you know what side your on?" there fixed it

    • @basix4089
      @basix4089 3 роки тому

      Nobody:
      The ruinous effigy: I’m’ boutta end this mans whole career

  • @RockR277
    @RockR277 8 років тому +149

    Sounds interesting. It would be cool if the story takes this route, maybe have your character be part of a rebellion and have them fighting against other guardians.

    • @finikksu
      @finikksu 8 років тому +9

      +twittburning I heard there is like 3 more destiny games in the plans, one every year. The best I think would be in the last game (or the one before) to make players choose sides, choose to protect the traveler or attack it, and that would make a whole pvp war

    • @MrDanachu
      @MrDanachu 8 років тому +2

      +twittburning Kinda like how the Halo franchise is evolving. Master Chief being hunted down by other Spartans. It is Bungie after all.

    • @theodorehodbor5080
      @theodorehodbor5080 8 років тому

      +twittburning That's what the Crucible is for. It was made so that way Guardians loyal to the Traveler would know how to fight against deserters.

    • @yeetilinguini6733
      @yeetilinguini6733 8 років тому +1

      +Theodore Hodbor I thought it was for training supers to be more powerful like rift was for voidwalkers to have a bigger nova bomb

    • @yeetilinguini6733
      @yeetilinguini6733 8 років тому

      +Theodore Hodbor I thought it was for training supers to be more powerful like rift was for voidwalkers to have a bigger nova bomb blast

  • @ZobmieRules
    @ZobmieRules 8 років тому +188

    Seeing that thing floating up there just makes me think of The Moon from Majora's Mask.

    • @SolarFantom2314
      @SolarFantom2314 8 років тому

      I thought I was the only one lol

    • @chrisa.9032
      @chrisa.9032 8 років тому +2

      dam it now I won't be able to unthink that.

    • @shinoki407
      @shinoki407 8 років тому

      damn weebo

    • @deeevs4542
      @deeevs4542 8 років тому

      +shinoki407 weebo ? a " weeaboo " is for the content of anime m8 :/

    • @SomethingScotty
      @SomethingScotty 8 років тому +3

      +Asriel Dreemurr A weeaboo is anyone not native to Japan, typically Americans in this case, who are so engrossed with Japanese culture that they forsake their current lifestyle. They eat only Japanese-style foods, try to use Japanese in every day conversations(and fail miserably at it), watch nothing but Japanese shows(anime, drama, etc.,), eat all of their meals on the floor, only sleeps on bedrolls, so on and so forth.
      So basically they are posers trying to be something they are not.

  • @Thaydel2
    @Thaydel2 4 роки тому +289

    That epic gamer moment when the traveler wakes up

    • @Coolest-Daniel
      @Coolest-Daniel 3 роки тому +4

      Hey you your finally awake

    • @iamshmity1808
      @iamshmity1808 3 роки тому

      I know

    • @vuvuzela4570
      @vuvuzela4570 3 роки тому

      Ah.. the red war.. brings me back

    • @SizemoreTV
      @SizemoreTV 3 роки тому +6

      That epic gamer moment when the traveler heals itself

    • @nyancat7511
      @nyancat7511 3 роки тому +3

      That epic gamer moment when the Darkness is actually just a group of black doritos

  • @Joker-77763
    @Joker-77763 2 роки тому +40

    Coming back to this now...I don't know how to feel.
    He gets so much wrong, yet almost all of his predictions are right.

    • @problem13150
      @problem13150 2 роки тому +3

      Witch queen do be hittin diffrent thou

    • @vogavation
      @vogavation Рік тому +1

      Lightfall be hitting way different now

    • @jibanyanawesome8577
      @jibanyanawesome8577 4 місяці тому +1

      Exactly this. This was some out of pocket crackpot theory that became true.

  • @matthewvanderwater218
    @matthewvanderwater218 5 років тому +259

    At 10:25 you lore out of context the deep stone crypt is something only exos feel and only exo people like banshee also dream of the deep stone crypt

    • @662mann8
      @662mann8 5 років тому +4

      matthew vanderwater yes

    • @jacobwong7486
      @jacobwong7486 4 роки тому +10

      @@662mann8 commenting, "Yes" adds nothing to the conversation.

    • @tettettettettet
      @tettettettettet 4 роки тому +11

      I found it funny he mentioned resets, this theory is pretty bad, he is also ignoring that the fallen want the traveler not to destroy it

    • @mrtegs
      @mrtegs 4 роки тому +4

      @@jacobwong7486 yes

    • @jacobwong7486
      @jacobwong7486 4 роки тому +4

      Mr Tegs nein.

  • @Admired
    @Admired 8 років тому +2081

    I just learned more in 15 minutes than I did playing Destiny all year.

  • @user-mg5re4yq2h
    @user-mg5re4yq2h Рік тому +7

    5:38, absolutely! There was whole lot of them! In Destiny 2 we call them "Shatterdive Hunters"

  • @Supernovaisayoutuber
    @Supernovaisayoutuber 3 роки тому +11

    Me about to head into beyond light: “He’s wrong, again, now you owe me $5”

  • @FTL_Rhelik
    @FTL_Rhelik 5 років тому +860

    I think matpat is pretty good but personally just watch 'My Name Is Byf' for destiny lore

  • @willowhernandez7612
    @willowhernandez7612 7 років тому +56

    The thing about the Traveler making us a proxy army is the most likely. The Fallen have an event called the Whirlwind which was pretty much the Collapse for them, and they also had the Traveler, which they called the Great Machine. Oryx came to the Fallen's home planet and tried to kill them and the Traveler, and when they seemed to be about to lose, the Great Machine fled. That's what led the Fallen and Hive to attack us, as the Traveler came to humanity next, hoping to create an army strong enough to defeat the Darkness.
    Boom.

    • @mr.stabby5294
      @mr.stabby5294 7 років тому +1

      Taken Darkness is different than Darkness that lead to the Collapse. Plus, with Siva added into the mix, the Great Machine could have been many things; after all, they worshiped Sepiks Prime, the big dumb servitor. What if they just had a bigger, little less dumb servitor.

    • @ceph_and_seethe
      @ceph_and_seethe 7 років тому +5

      Mr. Stabby The Traveler could be a bigger, less dumb Sepiks Prime.

    • @mr.stabby5294
      @mr.stabby5294 7 років тому +1

      That is brilliant!! (no sarcasim intended) that is literally the best thing I've heard. I can completely see that.

  • @luzikarbuzik1023
    @luzikarbuzik1023 3 роки тому +13

    10:23 was actually about exos, not the guardians. Clovis (creator of exos, the sentient playable robots) wasn't a huge fan of human rights.

  • @deadly_john2644
    @deadly_john2644 4 місяці тому +4

    I'm appalled that he got this close to breaking down the story of destiny. I wish he still did videos on this game.

  • @ordoarc4739
    @ordoarc4739 5 років тому +49

    The card about killing everyone you knew from one reset or another was specifically about Exos and how their memory is wiped periodically, not about guardians in general.

  • @zouloslecoolos
    @zouloslecoolos 8 років тому +275

    These are the games i'd like to see in Game Theory
    -Prototype (like can a virus like this exist ?)
    -Plague Inc Evolved (like can those viruses can exist ?)
    -LEGO Marvel superheroes (like you did with DC)
    -Metro 2033 (like can you survive in the subway in a post apocaliptic world / bullets : crap or cash ^^)
    -Broforce (like how can the Terminator and Rambo can meet)

    • @willier47
      @willier47 8 років тому +5

      Oooh Jak and Daxter is Jak The OG Mar or is he a descendent??

    • @marcusalm7350
      @marcusalm7350 8 років тому

      +La Vodka There are some viruses and bacteria that exist IRL that you can play as in Palgue Inc. So it could happen, but it would be "hard" for the bacteria/virus to become something like that. Evolution takes a bit more than a few button presses to happen :)

    • @nostalehalo
      @nostalehalo 8 років тому +3

      we can survive because the soviets designed the metro to be like a big bunker that helps people to protect themselves against fallout and radiation

    • @zakiatmaji02
      @zakiatmaji02 8 років тому

      +La Vodka Its a game, Anything can exist

    • @ChrisTrick
      @ChrisTrick 8 років тому

      I hope mat see this

  • @savagetomxr16x43
    @savagetomxr16x43 8 місяців тому +4

    Bro the final shape is in less the five months. This is scary close. This is what we do know. The darkness is a byproduct of the veil that’s connected to the traveler and now the witness a being of darkness is using his power inside the traveler to rewrite reality. And we still don’t know why the traveler gave us a golden age

  • @adamfenix213
    @adamfenix213 4 роки тому +19

    Interesting enough, Pujari's story kinda happens to you when you reach a certain point in Shadowkeep.

    • @TripleMoonPanda
      @TripleMoonPanda 4 роки тому +5

      Thats why I rewatched this video, I think MatPat might've gotten it right.

  • @nonuvurbeeznus795
    @nonuvurbeeznus795 8 років тому +77

    when all they knew of humanity was a steel crowbar coming at them down a dark corridor

  • @michaelmangraviti6772
    @michaelmangraviti6772 8 років тому +175

    Don't you find it interesting no one has gone inside the traveler, or, at least scanned it?

    • @SuperJoshgames
      @SuperJoshgames 8 років тому +8

      The Legendary Traveler mask says "I've been inside the traveller you know, Smells faintly of Vanilla"

    • @SuperJoshgames
      @SuperJoshgames 8 років тому +2

      The Legendary Traveler mask says "I've been inside the traveller you know, Smells faintly of Vanilla"

    • @panobato5984
      @panobato5984 8 років тому +6

      Yes we have, as a mask...

    • @nickylitle
      @nickylitle 8 років тому +5

      +Michael Mangraviti they didn't know what it was. They didn't want to take any risks.
      If it ain't broke don't fix it

    • @systamatica
      @systamatica 8 років тому

      +Michael Mangraviti how can go "in it?"

  • @rudrapandya1653
    @rudrapandya1653 4 роки тому +16

    I know no one is probably gonna see but when he said that “we killed everyone” he was talking about exos they had to do this. Also exos are made by humans not the traveler

  • @jordanziegler8376
    @jordanziegler8376 Рік тому +4

    *nearly 7 years later after seeing the traveler try to piece out on us for Savathun*
    Me: huh, this guy was on to something.

  • @basouwersloot7473
    @basouwersloot7473 8 років тому +100

    I found a fusion rifle with the description: All that is dark is not Darkness. Strange right?

    • @franciscop.3279
      @franciscop.3279 8 років тому +1

      It's probably referring to Void Light, dark in it's own way, but Light nonetheless

    • @Lylybeebee
      @Lylybeebee 7 років тому +1

      I found good one. Doom of Celchis: "Protect the Great Machine! Protect the great-" Which kinda means Celchis's doom was protecting the Great Machine... DAN DAN DUNNN

    • @franciscop.3279
      @franciscop.3279 7 років тому +6

      Lylybeebee Yes, the Fallen loved the Traveler, and once it left them, they followed it, probably killing anyone that had the Traveler helping them as they think it's theirs.

    • @mat.quantum2671
      @mat.quantum2671 7 років тому

      Ok let's face it the only way to always win is to be MLG Pros and 360 no scope der asses den we always win

    • @butterfly-rr2uh
      @butterfly-rr2uh 7 років тому

      I have that fusion rifle like that too

  • @ThxRealUnknown
    @ThxRealUnknown 6 років тому +72

    The thing is that the Traveler is a completely neutral "Machine"... It just wants to survive the Darkness, that is hunting it. The Traveler fled the Fallen, because the Hive were assaulting them. The Fallen had to leave their solar system and found out, that their Great Machine is now in Sol. The Cabal only want to capture the Traveler and destroy the human race, because for the sake of victory. (Also Gary/Ghaul wanted to use its "Light"). The Hive is a complete other Story: They were told by the Wyrm-Gods (Worm Gods), that they HAVE to snuff out all of the Light and the Traveler is the "biggest source". The Vex are a bit more complicated: They just want to understand the Light, for it is the only thing they can't simulate.....
    (I love the Destiny Lore and everything involving this universe... and I hope this clears something up)
    by the way: I am not english, so excuse me, if my grammer or vocabulary is not the best.

    • @Subs-rf2si
      @Subs-rf2si 5 років тому

      ThxUnknown that’s really cool

    • @TankDragonSherman
      @TankDragonSherman 5 років тому +2

      The question is, if the traveler's a machine, who made it?

    • @Aarrence
      @Aarrence 5 років тому

      true

    • @chickenking2025
      @chickenking2025 5 років тому

      ThxUnknown I think your grammar was good

    • @EmptyBonesJohnny
      @EmptyBonesJohnny 5 років тому

      ThxUnknown the traveler left before the hive invaded and it also left behind a fountain of ether

  • @th3grav3mak3rgaming8
    @th3grav3mak3rgaming8 2 роки тому +7

    I would love for him to do a destiny lore at the current point of d2. Some of this has already been confirmed, like the fallen having the light at some point. Also there’s a lot of other lore points that would affect his theories.

    • @Joker-77763
      @Joker-77763 2 роки тому +1

      Him doing a theory on Destiny now would give him so much of a headache with all the lore he would have to dig through. He would have to have someone who knows the lore like Byf to help him.
      Actually, that would be a very entertaining video for them to do.

    • @shreknskrubgaming7248
      @shreknskrubgaming7248 2 роки тому

      @@Joker-77763 agreed, him and Byf should team up for it.

  • @kadex2123
    @kadex2123 2 роки тому +8

    You should do a new Destiny video now that the story has progressed significantly. Maybe give a theory about Witch Queen, Lightfall, and The Final Shape?

  • @spacewizardpip1111
    @spacewizardpip1111 8 років тому +104

    So does this theory prove that Dead Orbit is right to say we should leave the Traveler? It all makes sense now....

    • @carlosbenies688
      @carlosbenies688 7 років тому

      Maybe but i think FWC holds more truth now, then the rest. "War is a constant, Guardian."
      EDIT: No matter what we would be fighting something

    • @spacewizardpip1111
      @spacewizardpip1111 7 років тому +2

      I get that, I'm more a Dead Orbit guy because, the Traveler has just caused problems after the collapse.

    • @carlosbenies688
      @carlosbenies688 7 років тому +1

      i know just wanted to say FWC is bae

    • @spacewizardpip1111
      @spacewizardpip1111 7 років тому +2

      The Traveler is a liar, after the collapse it gave us Guardians to protect itself. I never trusted the Traveler because, it's just basically using Earth as a proxy army. Guardians are made to be killers to protect a being that has gone from planet to planet, making more of The Darkness. If the Traveler left Earth we'd probably be with The Darkness.

    • @ryanbaker1207
      @ryanbaker1207 7 років тому +2

      I agree more with future war cult. It's too far to go back now. We need the light. Without we will be wiped out before we know what hit us.

  • @vertex1933
    @vertex1933 8 років тому +887

    You really need to do something like this for COD zombies. So far there have only been theories pieced together from the little info they give us, but I would LOVE to see what you come up with!

    • @cooleo812is
      @cooleo812is 8 років тому +10

      Yeah I would love to see a theory on that especially considering how deep those plots are

    • @Player1Joined
      @Player1Joined 8 років тому +1

      +Mike Romo Spoiler...The Nazis are aliens

    • @mariosonic8324
      @mariosonic8324 8 років тому +3

      YESSSS

    • @walachiablu3300
      @walachiablu3300 8 років тому +1

      +Mike Romo You are not thinking right

    • @DragonDDark
      @DragonDDark 8 років тому +2

      agreed

  • @jacklox1234
    @jacklox1234 3 роки тому +4

    It still baffles me how mat pat doesn't do more theory's on destiny, its a game theory GOLD MINE of lore

  • @griffincrannell5592
    @griffincrannell5592 8 років тому +119

    Also, in addition to the traveler having a past of going to planets, destroying them and leaving, somewhere in the grimore it mentions the traveler attempting to leave and then we used a weapon from the golden age to wound it so it stayed with us.

    • @basile6316
      @basile6316 8 років тому +5

      +Griffin Crannell Rasputin shot it, the warsat of earth

    • @griffincrannell5592
      @griffincrannell5592 8 років тому +9

      +Basil E Yeah Rasputin, but hes a warmind, not a warsat

    • @stwcrusher
      @stwcrusher 8 років тому +1

      +Griffin Crannell I remember that. It was in a trailer as well i believe.

    • @phillipst9823
      @phillipst9823 8 років тому +2

      +Griffin Crannell yeah in the grimoire for TTK rasputin says that he was the one to shut down the traveler because it attempted to leave

    • @phillipst9823
      @phillipst9823 8 років тому

      Griffin Crannell true haha... personally why don't we just give up the traveler? i'm already a badass sith lord

  • @Kuchenjaeger
    @Kuchenjaeger 8 років тому +399

    "Lost plot"? So ALL of the plot?

  • @DarthDude44.
    @DarthDude44. 2 роки тому +8

    You know, he's almost 100% correct. The latest expansion explores this side of the story extensively. No spoilers, but check out The Witch Queen if you want your minds blown...

  • @Mittens_McG
    @Mittens_McG 3 роки тому +95

    So many of the comments are "You're wrong because of (insert story here)"
    This video is over 4 years old. Most of you are taking about stuff that came after this video was made. Chill.
    No need to take it so seriously. He did call it a crackpot theory, after all.

  • @Tony73727
    @Tony73727 8 років тому +77

    So Dead Orbit's intentions on leaving Earth is actually a good call since Earth was doomed anyways

    • @Tony73727
      @Tony73727 8 років тому

      Daniel P​ I meant after the Collapse. Of course they didn't exist then. What I mean is Earth is still doomed, a lost cause knowing the only Light available is the Traveler's dying breath.

    • @Tony73727
      @Tony73727 8 років тому +2

      If the Traveler is revived do you really think it's going to stay at our side? It left the Fallen without a second thought, how long are we useful until the Traveler is revived and realizes the Cabal could be an upgrade to its army. The Speaker is already hiding things from us. Not to mention The Traveler deliberately caused the collapse which killed innocent children, elderly, and disabled... for what? Just so it can revive the able-bodied to defend it and carry out its mindless duties of killing so that it becomes stronger than ever? No, something that could kill me just to revive me and make me its grunt for the sake of its defense isn't a good thing.
      The Traveler is what we're doomed by.

    • @Tony73727
      @Tony73727 8 років тому

      Daniel P We are dead things only meant for killing, doesn't seem like an improvement in our good guy book.

    • @Tony73727
      @Tony73727 8 років тому

      Daniel P​ Well, I honestly can agree that Earth isn't entirely doomed, they just need to clear out the Fallen and Hive. So they can re-branch out and expand, since there is vegetation, assuming us Dead Beings still eat.

    • @Tony73727
      @Tony73727 8 років тому

      Daniel P I don't think the Cabal would leave us alone after killing Ta' aurc and a large portion of their army. xD

  • @Lional
    @Lional 6 років тому +597

    @ 10:25 you quote a grimoir card, but you take it out of context. The quote is from an Exo's point of view, talking about a dream that all exos have eventually, and consistently as far as I know. It is dealing with the Deep Stone Crypt. All exos were built as war machines, but the Traveler didn't build the exos, mankind did. A company called Clovis Bray actually built the exos. You can do your own research to find out why/how, but like I said, the quote is taken way out of context. Just saying. Also, you should do an updated theory of this game, either before or after the Forsaken expansion is released. Good video bud.

    • @JO-cz5gx
      @JO-cz5gx 5 років тому +8

      I was going to tell him, by the way do you think the exos were created and their mind developped or were humans minds transfered to exo's body ?

    • @Lional
      @Lional 5 років тому +17

      JO995 To the best of my knowledge, the human consciousness was transplanted into the body of an exo. When doing Cayde-6's treasure maps in Destiny 2, sometimes you'll get a journal fragment of Cayde telling his son Ace that the next time he sees him, he will be a robot, or something to that effect. So I'm pretty sure that the Exos are all pre-made at Clovis Bray and they are awaiting human consciousness. Also, on Mars, you can activate consoles that give much more information about the whole thing, I just don't remember them word for word and I really don't feel like logging in to find out.

    • @wolf_boi9734
      @wolf_boi9734 5 років тому +3

      Rob Mills they aren't war machines they are a way for humans to live forever but besides that u are good

    • @Lional
      @Lional 5 років тому +9

      Lone wolf This quote was taken literally from the very first line of the Exo page on Destinypedia.com - "The Exo are a race of humanoid war machines built long ago for an unknown purpose and fashioned in humanity's image." I originally heard it from the UA-camr My Name Is Byf.

    • @CaironOzi
      @CaironOzi 5 років тому +1

      Weren't the exos built by Rasputin?

  • @tiredhedgehog4608
    @tiredhedgehog4608 3 роки тому +2

    I like it when Mat gets an idea from social media and credits it.

  • @danielcrowley162
    @danielcrowley162 4 роки тому +6

    watching this after the reveal of Beyond Light, The Witch King, and (where I believe this theory might come into play), Lightfall makes this theory even better

    • @jasonking2998
      @jasonking2998 2 роки тому

      He misinterprets several points so I don’t think so.

  • @Yoshi-uv2vd
    @Yoshi-uv2vd 7 років тому +325

    Guess u could say I see it in a whole new "light"

  • @TienAnta
    @TienAnta 7 років тому +102

    A year later and i still don't trust the traveler

    • @jake9085
      @jake9085 7 років тому +17

      OJ MASTER I don't even trust the moon god dammit.

    • @tylerlynn69
      @tylerlynn69 7 років тому +1

      Every now and then while I'm in the tower I'll just stop and look at it and remember this video

  • @redfox972x
    @redfox972x 6 місяців тому +3

    i wish matt would do another destiny theory... we know so much more now, even without matts help.

  • @tronicalli7587
    @tronicalli7587 5 місяців тому +3

    This aged well, with all we know now. If you think about it, the witness fits every description at 7:19 too. Shows how much care bungo put into destiny :>

    • @Dipsxi
      @Dipsxi 3 місяці тому +1

      Firing your writing leads only to use their ideas years later doesnt seem to me like a lot of care.

  • @movableacorn3313
    @movableacorn3313 6 років тому +194

    The biggest clue is the resputin cards. Resputin was pretty much a backup for humanity if anything went wrong, and resputin found fault with the Traveller. He was linked to all if the weapons of the golden age able to bombard anything that he believes would hurt humanity. Seeing the darkness arriving far before humanity did resputin went looking for ways to save us. The only way he found was AIM EVERYTHING AT THE TRAVELLER stating "you move, you die". The Traveller was forced for it own life to create the ghosts to raise an army to protect humanity for its own good. Moral of the story, don't mess with the Russians.

    • @christopherthompson2244
      @christopherthompson2244 6 років тому

      movableacorn 3 actually it was to shoot at the traveler only if he tried to leave

    • @masterofthelyokianmonsters2886
      @masterofthelyokianmonsters2886 6 років тому +2

      movableacorn 3 The soviets proved that.

    • @the_real_pengu
      @the_real_pengu 6 років тому

      Rasputin lol

    • @Allan.T
      @Allan.T 6 років тому

      Cool beanz

    • @emPtysp4ce
      @emPtysp4ce 6 років тому +1

      The cards also seem to imply Rasputin didn't get to actually pull the trigger. The Traveler didn't run and Rasputin didn't shoot at it, he was just ready to do so if he needed to.

  • @avinashsingh1642
    @avinashsingh1642 8 років тому +771

    Can we have a mathematical/physics theory next time, Mat? It's been a while...

  • @hunterschwartz7738
    @hunterschwartz7738 Рік тому +3

    The fact that this can’t be proven wrong and it’s year 5 of destiny 2 and year 7 of destiny is insane

  • @oceanjay9234
    @oceanjay9234 Рік тому +3

    I can’t believe he could be right with the fact that Savathun had ghost on her side and the traveler allowed it

  • @gaigethemechromancer1179
    @gaigethemechromancer1179 8 років тому +114

    I think the biggest reveal here is that someone actually got an Exotic...

    • @JyeGuy
      @JyeGuy 8 років тому

      True im lvl 34 never even got legendary

    • @shadeymcbones6707
      @shadeymcbones6707 8 років тому +1

      +Jye Guy lol legendary's start to appear everywhere when you reach endgame content, not really a shock that you havent got any at lvl 34, maybe if you did some of the old endgame content i guess

    • @ranger6600
      @ranger6600 8 років тому

      I got an exotic shotgun, it had an attack of 155, I dismantled it because of that. I didn't know better.

    • @ranger6600
      @ranger6600 8 років тому

      +Chandler Steelflex I got it from the chest in the level 26 (I believe) Prison of Elders.

    • @ranger6600
      @ranger6600 8 років тому

      +Chandler Steelflex It was called Junker or something like that.

  • @jimdoodle9334
    @jimdoodle9334 8 років тому +287

    We need to spread this to all the destiny players #TheTravelerMustBurn

    • @BrandoCommando21
      @BrandoCommando21 8 років тому +4

      the travaler is miss understanded

    • @DCIcebreaker
      @DCIcebreaker 8 років тому +8

      All the destiny players have already taken every bit of information for story and pieced it together, so no need to spread

    • @kuyajayden8442
      @kuyajayden8442 8 років тому +4

      Who cares this is not fnaf

    • @blakechandler167
      @blakechandler167 8 років тому

      Destiny 2 confirmed

    • @blakechandler167
      @blakechandler167 8 років тому

      Destiny 2 confirmed

  • @goodsir1004
    @goodsir1004 Рік тому +4

    "why did we do it" to turn them into a gun

  • @Mylotan
    @Mylotan 3 роки тому +6

    Well this is a fun one to come back to after 5 years Destinys story has really expanded greatly in half a decade.

  • @michaelmccabbin2084
    @michaelmccabbin2084 8 років тому +226

    there should be a change.org petition to make matpat the new ghost

    • @MagicalFishy
      @MagicalFishy 8 років тому

      Heck yea!

    • @lechevalier-ns2pt
      @lechevalier-ns2pt 8 років тому +1

      +. “UDaRealMVP01” no how about a change.org petition for destiny to be remade right ?

    • @michaelmccabbin2084
      @michaelmccabbin2084 8 років тому

      lechevalier6661 Hahaha damn we need a better story

    • @lechevalier-ns2pt
      @lechevalier-ns2pt 8 років тому

      Seth Eddings GO MY DRAGONS !! KILL THIS SPAM WITH FIRE !! ( not talking about you -_- )

    • @Siriuscantpvp
      @Siriuscantpvp 8 років тому

      Yes

  • @davidking6242
    @davidking6242 8 років тому +348

    I didn't know Destiny even had a plot...

    • @anedcav
      @anedcav 8 років тому +42

      +kwadwo baidoo *Drops Mic*

    • @mojoforthewin3069
      @mojoforthewin3069 8 років тому +6

      +kwadwo baidoo WOAAAAAH!

    • @Gillymonster18
      @Gillymonster18 8 років тому +7

      +kwadwo baidoo How would you know? You don't remember how you even got there. All you know to do is fight. You don't know to look for a plot.

    • @wotizlove
      @wotizlove 8 років тому

      +Dylan Holder upvote this comment, i wanna see game theory do it :D

    • @Zeruckiven
      @Zeruckiven 8 років тому +4

      +kwadwo baidoo Of course it has a plot. Almost every game does: You goodie. They baddie. Kill plz. ty. Best plot evar. Let's keep repeating this since nobody seems to realize what we're doing. Just in this case it mgiht be...BACKWARDS Dun dun dun!

  • @Leafy46
    @Leafy46 3 роки тому +5

    Looking at this as of Beyond Light, this is an interesting rewatch.

  • @icyskelly204
    @icyskelly204 3 роки тому +2

    Traveler appears
    Scp foundation: I want every gun to fire on that moon

  • @Tristan16978
    @Tristan16978 8 років тому +93

    How epic would it be for the final expansion to be about how the traveler betrays mankind and the raid is to destroy it

    • @FirstLast-dp3jx
      @FirstLast-dp3jx 8 років тому +7

      You are telling the Future!

    • @F0XHunter
      @F0XHunter 8 років тому

      +Arutia Avalon is he?

    • @mkwmaster777
      @mkwmaster777 8 років тому

      you do know Bungie and Activision will work on this game for 10 years right?

    • @Tristan16978
      @Tristan16978 8 років тому

      +Miners Productions yes I know that they said that but that doesn't mean that the final DLC won't be like that

    • @mkwmaster777
      @mkwmaster777 8 років тому

      you never know.... it would make sense though, the final raid?

  • @TommysMatchbook
    @TommysMatchbook 5 років тому +111

    Me: *Finishes quest*
    My Ghost: "Congratulations! You-"
    Me: "Yeah, yeah, yeah, just give me that juicy exotic helmet!"

  • @yggsedits7178
    @yggsedits7178 3 роки тому +3

    Watching this after the release of beyond light blows my mind

  • @user-lf7or2pu8z
    @user-lf7or2pu8z 2 місяці тому

    Watching this years later just a couple of months away from Final Shape, everything still lines up with this theory. Thank you for doing a Video on Destiny, and Happy Retirement.

  • @dr.phalangesofgaming
    @dr.phalangesofgaming 6 років тому +1443

    Make one on Destiny 2

    • @nexelray3207
      @nexelray3207 6 років тому +26

      Maybe this is why the bad guy from Destiny 2 wants The Traveler.
      It's a machine that makes you Imortal, perfect for a war like race like the Cabal.
      And since it's a machine, who is there to say that it can't be reprogramed?

    • @MrGameQ11
      @MrGameQ11 6 років тому +2

      also his point with darkness think of void the bridge of light and dark now makes sense

    • @koruton_7854
      @koruton_7854 6 років тому

      YESSSS
      cant wait for pc version to come out on the Blizz app

    • @creeperave3768
      @creeperave3768 6 років тому

      Ted Smith one quick correction, Ghaul was the runt of his family, not a deformed albino... I just got the game a few days ago and played through the mission where he tells you this, so it's still fresh for me

    • @creeperave3768
      @creeperave3768 6 років тому

      Ted Smith well, I'll be... I don't have that auto rifle, so that would be why I don't know that tidbit.... although being a runt is not a disfigurement, it's just a sign of weakness in warrior societies... so I'd guess the respirator looking thing he has to wear on his face is probably in relation to the disfigurement... or maybe even disfigured is just a descriptor of the albinism itself... but disfigurements are permanent and being a runt is not (I was technically the runt of my family and doctors said I was never supposed to even reach 5'... I am now 5'9" and am among the tallest in my family)

  • @alexandergambino1640
    @alexandergambino1640 8 років тому +55

    Anyone else feel that the enemies in destiny represent the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse?
    War - The Cabal
    Famine - The Fallen
    Pestilence - The Vex
    Death - The Hive

    • @mydeadboarbill9600
      @mydeadboarbill9600 8 років тому +6

      Even the gun 4th Horsemen!

    • @DarkKnightofHeaven
      @DarkKnightofHeaven 8 років тому +2

      +Tytus Wellington the darksiders 4 horseman are not exact to the true 4 horseman. teh darksiders horsemen are war, death, fury, and strife. Traditionally the 4 horsemen are war, death, famine and pestilence however since they are biblical reference its very interpretable, due to the only one actually being named and described is death so when I say exact the better term is traditional, with the first three being the main ways to die at the time of their inception (war, famine(starvation), or pestilence(plague/disease)) and the final one being death incarnate(and hence the strongest of the four).

    • @ryandavid5363
      @ryandavid5363 8 років тому

      That makes a lot of sense, and if they did purposefully add that someone at Bungie actually has a good idea for once 😝

    • @unitfifty-five7372
      @unitfifty-five7372 8 років тому

      yea

    • @DaneTheInsane675
      @DaneTheInsane675 8 років тому

      +Aizen Sama Conquest is sometimes interpreted at Pestilence instead, and it makes more sense like that often considering the order in which the riders appear.

  • @Fiztoo77
    @Fiztoo77 4 роки тому +8

    I watch this again after going through just about all the lore, I see so many plot holes

  • @thomasmartin1260
    @thomasmartin1260 Рік тому +7

    YOU MUST DO AN UPDATE!!

  • @dogeinator1235
    @dogeinator1235 6 років тому +189

    We killed a god because the game requires it and that’s probably how you get that sweet SWEET loot

    • @jackhussey6435
      @jackhussey6435 5 років тому +2

      Dogeinator 123 as papa console taught sweet preceious leut!

    • @forsgsrekylgevr2113
      @forsgsrekylgevr2113 5 років тому +1

      Kills God - gets rare

    • @link_team3855
      @link_team3855 5 років тому +1

      that's using game logic. game logic doesn't pass here. sorry.

    • @lolidkman2512
      @lolidkman2512 5 років тому +1

      Papa console taught you well

    • @estrelaplatina5711
      @estrelaplatina5711 5 років тому

      Well, it's not truth 100%. You kill that "god" to let traveler heal himself.

  • @Dustin_Studios
    @Dustin_Studios 3 роки тому +5

    I feel like MatPat needs to update on the story now since the story has taken a drastically different turn then the one that was taken out of the first game. I mean he has time to make endless lore videos about the truth about Five Nights At Freddy's. He could surely do an update on the story now in Destiny. Just an idea.

  • @ublacksmith6798
    @ublacksmith6798 Рік тому +4

    he needs to come back to this game and make another theory video, because so much has happened

  • @xavierlesane8793
    @xavierlesane8793 8 років тому +100

    Warlocks will be the first to return to the darkness their quest for knowledge will lead them to the truth

    • @kmanrocks9988
      @kmanrocks9988 8 років тому

      Yup than the Titan are gonna have the warlocks and the darkness

    • @mBUSHattack
      @mBUSHattack 8 років тому +1

      Mmyep, that's why I main a warlock.

    • @xavierlesane8793
      @xavierlesane8793 8 років тому +7

      Kman Rocks​ I think the Warlocks own pretty much everyone they taught the hunters how to blink connected with the void before the titans did and they are the first choice for missions if you watch the taken king cutscenes even the awoken queen used only 3 warlocks to conjure a devastating attack against Oryx

    • @whitchking51
      @whitchking51 8 років тому

      +Celestial Sins (Healer4Life) yeah those were techeuns not warlocks, a little different in the awoken culture

    • @applefruit8092
      @applefruit8092 8 років тому +5

      (reads comment and then goes back to mindlessly killing and throwing arrows everywhere and using no time to explain)

  • @ittapupu8405
    @ittapupu8405 8 років тому +210

    I hope he'll do another theory with the Taken King or Rise of Iron

    • @desertcroc4418
      @desertcroc4418 8 років тому

      same

    • @thegamingwizard9561
      @thegamingwizard9561 8 років тому

      Rise of Iron ?

    • @falken3413
      @falken3413 8 років тому

      +Jesse Kozlovsky new DLC comin September where we fight a fallen mutant army and a war mind I suppose and we help Lord Saladin ( Lord Salad 🍲) and occasionally becoming an Iron Lord!

    • @thegamingwizard9561
      @thegamingwizard9561 8 років тому

      oh thx

    • @matarese2868
      @matarese2868 8 років тому

      The taken king ought to be a good one

  • @deepseastonecore3017
    @deepseastonecore3017 Рік тому +2

    We might need to update this Theory

  • @camwheat
    @camwheat 2 роки тому

    You bring up some great points. Always loving your videos matt

  • @BeehiveBoy
    @BeehiveBoy 8 років тому +166

    honestly The Traveler kinda reminds me of the American government

  • @monstaproductions4983
    @monstaproductions4983 8 років тому +83

    Just more food for thought but if you dig deep enough you learn that rasputin after seeing that the traveler was going to leave the planet decided in a last ditch attempt to Shoot him down.. Yes you read that right! Rasputin forced the traveler to stay by shooting him down thats why theres huge damage at the bottom of the traveler but nowhere else! Also rasputin was shut down during this event in an attempt by the traveler to wipe out all past knowledge on how the collapse was brought about BUT rasputin already realised this was going to happen and set up safety measures. He knew this because when they were researching the vex he saw every possible outcome of the future and in this future he saw the traveler betray earth and its people. So what Rasputin did was implant himself subconsciously into exos that he specifically built in order to live forever and got them to come back and re-animate him after the collapse but which exo you ask? easy its Cayde because in one of the cards it says only 4 eyes have ever been able to gain access to rasputins lair and cayde was human at one time before he was turned into an exo by rasputin and had his memory wiped during the collaps. Basically the 4 eyes belong to him, 2 when he was human and 2 now that he is an exo. Subconsciously cayde re-activated rasputin and basically now rasputin and the traveler are at war.
    Basically Rasputin outsmarted the traveler and started a huge death game and he knows the outcome of it all. The traveler realising it got fucked over was forced to create ghosts in a last ditch attempt to gain an army before the other races it fucked over tracked its whereabouts down and tried to seek revenge.
    Also just an interesting thing to go take a look at is when you go to the tower quickly go look at the traveler, you will notice that its actually healing! some spots that looked battle damaged are actually gone now and its getting more vibrant and less dirty looking.

    • @defiantabyss9882
      @defiantabyss9882 8 років тому

      noice

    • @fort809
      @fort809 8 років тому +2

      Exactly. I wonder if matpat read the grimoir AT ALL.

    • @sp4de5
      @sp4de5 8 років тому +2

      Well damn son, you did some good thinking. Cayde tho

    • @sp4de5
      @sp4de5 8 років тому

      Well damn son, you did some good thinking. Cayde tho

    • @chaoticreaper0575
      @chaoticreaper0575 8 років тому

      +MonstaProductions just throwing this out there if thats the case then why would you be defending Rasputin if guardians were made to fight for the traveler then wouldnt the traveler have its ghosts and its speaker label rasputin as a "Threat" and force the guardians to wipe him out?

  • @Slymezz
    @Slymezz Рік тому +3

    Now that Light fall is out, we learn like matt predicted that we are LITERALLY a proxy army for the traveler and so is everyone else it helped

  • @wyattolma7439
    @wyattolma7439 4 роки тому +6

    was I the only one who hears the fallen dreg say "The Darkness calls us"
    with that capital D

  • @yarry6952
    @yarry6952 7 років тому +117

    Ha! I made my character an Exo, so technically I AM a killing machine! Eat That, MatPat!

    • @crab7252
      @crab7252 7 років тому

      Derpo Kaiba, the President of Derpo Corp. me too... me too

    • @dejigamer2166
      @dejigamer2166 7 років тому +4

      no matter what race you choose your character can always feel feelings as demonstrated throughout the game and as we all know robots have no feelings and their goal is to do what they've be told to do so if you character has feelings it can't be a machine eco is a race of living breathing people in this game

    • @luisf2793
      @luisf2793 7 років тому +1

      Derpo Kaiba, the President of Derpo Corp. me too

    • @allstartrilogy2901
      @allstartrilogy2901 7 років тому

      Derpo Kaiba, the President of Derpo Corp. I made my character an exo to

    • @finnegan.v7831
      @finnegan.v7831 6 років тому

      Overkill ALL THE WAY!!!

  • @isaac_dedeus
    @isaac_dedeus 6 років тому +55

    Even in Destiny 2 I hear Fallen saying, “The Darkness!”. I myself think that they call the guardians the darkness, because will they think what they are doing, is the right thing to do, that’s how I always thought of it.

    • @michaelmay5109
      @michaelmay5109 5 років тому +4

      Nah, it's because the fallen had the traveler before. The darkness is what knocked the traveler out of the fallen's grasp.

    • @zerotodona1495
      @zerotodona1495 5 років тому +3

      Yeah, they are referring to taken, darkness, etc.
      they are just jealousy of guardians for having the light and the traveler protecting earth. Even variks is staring to be jealous of us, but he loves tech and humans have interesting tech. It’s a very love-hate (mostly hate) story. The fallen are anti-heroes so to speak.

    • @harryomac
      @harryomac 5 років тому

      To me, it sounds like they saying 'THE DARKNESS rises...'

    • @estrelaplatina5711
      @estrelaplatina5711 5 років тому

      ​​ Zero Todona wtf you would do. Their home planet got destroyed. And great machine how they name it, left them to die. And thing that they need to live was only found on their home planet. And when ether(food that keeps them alive) was about to end, wars happened. They lost they culture, UNDERSTANDING of technology, They found way to create ether using machines, but they needed other technology to create it cause they don't have any clue how to create it themself.

  • @mangohuntprogreen650
    @mangohuntprogreen650 Рік тому +1

    You need to make more Destiny theories please matpat

  • @beetlepenny8561
    @beetlepenny8561 2 роки тому +1

    With the release of Witch queen and seeing everything that has happened so far. Mat Patt was on to something

  • @lunarshadow5584
    @lunarshadow5584 8 років тому +80

    there is a theory that the black garden is inside of the traveler which you can make a comparison by looking at the edge of the garden. it looking like it is inside a white sphere the size of a planet.

    • @cookiemon27
      @cookiemon27 8 років тому

      Black garden is on the surface of Mars after you destroy the black heart.

    • @papayapoop
      @papayapoop 8 років тому

      +cookiemon27 in order to get to the Black Garden, you need to travel through a pocket in time and space, and are transported there. the theory doesnt sound that compelling, based on the one fact backing it up is the color of the sky, but it very well could be true

    • @iGroundhero
      @iGroundhero 8 років тому

      +who cares dosent The travler wake up after u finish story mode/black garden mission. so Maybe he was corrupt since The GOD inside him took over

    • @lunarshadow5584
      @lunarshadow5584 8 років тому

      he isn't awake, he is only closer to being revived. you probably haven't even played destiny if you don't know that

    • @papayapoop
      @papayapoop 8 років тому +1

      Remi Aanonsen​ the traveler isnt sleeping its dead.

  • @ryuknightofflame
    @ryuknightofflame 8 років тому +62

    I have to be honest...the real evil involved in this game is the rng loot. This is exacerbated by the lack of trading. There are no specific ways or "above and beyond" achievements that get you gear. They just make you hurl yourself at the same crap over and over. Then it gets even worse once "light levels" get involved. You should be able to add light to gear so you can keep the gear you like and still level up. NOTHING in the game can be said to have been earned other than Rep with the factions and the items that they sell. It's no more earned than if you win on a slot machine. This is why I hate rng. There are tons of vids where people who literally did more than the rest if the team (proof was in the stats on the mission complete screen) got some crap items while the guy who afked for 3/4 of the run gets a legendary. I've had that happen multiple times. This pissed me off every time and so I've stopped playing. I've moved on to more well thought out and better executed games. I used to love bungie and I know not all of this is their fault (a lot of the issues reek of Activition ) but this failed to even come close to the standards that I hold for them. This game is a disaster. I hope that their reputation recovers from this but it will always have this scar. They need to get away from Activition. A company like that is not one you want your name attached to. Not unless you want to be associated with dishonesty, greed, contempt, poor business practice, and mediocrity.

    • @manunagel2996
      @manunagel2996 8 років тому +1

      Dou you know you can infuse items to make them better?

    • @fallenpeigon5693
      @fallenpeigon5693 8 років тому +1

      +ryuknightofflame What you're saying is from a year ago. Game has changed. That includes more reliable ways of getting gear (Not as much rng). Get updated.

    • @masonguyman3074
      @masonguyman3074 8 років тому

      +FallenPeigon Still no trade, there is still "light", and the new DLCs aren't really doing much. I played through the Destiny campaign (because I really don't like the multiplayer, but only because of preferences that have nothing to do with having a bad game) and I was appalled at the complete lack of story. They have tried to pull it back together in the new DLCs , but it's not working out that well. Plus, in my opinion, any rng is bad when it comes to the best gear in a game, unless sufficiently balanced. A trade system could really help with the randomness, also.

    • @azonicnebula7275
      @azonicnebula7275 8 років тому +1

      Maybe that's the point. Maybe this entire time bungie has been waiting for this huge ultra game warp twist that changes every aspect about the game on its head. maybe they want people to hate things about the game and the short story and everything because you are suppose to them finally they send out a final patch and it changes the game completely becoming this awesome game with an awesome twist

    • @azonicnebula7275
      @azonicnebula7275 8 років тому

      Maybe that's the point. Maybe this entire time bungie has been waiting for this huge ultra game warp twist that changes every aspect about the game on its head. maybe they want people to hate things about the game and the short story and everything because you are suppose to them finally they send out a final patch and it changes the game completely becoming this awesome game with an awesome twist