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You said that "people are either cis or trans" because we either are the gender that fits our birth-sex or not. But non-binary and intersex people don't fit that binary framework, so what are they?
First, thanks for sharing your thoughts, Jammi!:) And directly to my nonsense: I think you are wrong on the first case. You see the women (they are drawings and fictional, btw.) as powerful and great women (an opinion I share). But you didn't get the intention of the author of the post: For him, they are ugly and unworthy. So he choose them. I think behind all of that is the pushback and rejection that he would experience if he openly spoke against women in such a way and pointed out his childish views. He subconsciously understood that. And that's exactly why he chooses trans women as the target of his hatred. At the end, this is just his valve for his insecurities and hate against women, because at the core this is pure misogyny. This person is simply too cowardly to say what he really thinks and takes the detour through his distorted worldview, in which trans people seem to be a target that suggests less resistance and backlash. So that author is an absolutely embarrassing coward! Incidentally, the writers image of women and his values of beauty are completely sufficient to identify this person as an unpleasant fellow citizen and to immediately apply for an restraining order in court. And if the writer himself is a woman: Who needs enemies when he has friends like that?:)
I like to add rofl onto lmao because it sounds the cutest when you say it out like that. It almost sounds like you're too vigorously stroking a kitty cat.
Fiona is literally a cis woman, who happens to be an ogre, too. She can canonically give birth. That just sounds like they’re making Trans Fiona AU/headcanons lmao
@@SeaBreeze-w9999 It is a fact, not a talking point, that opposition to "cis" is because it allows for discussion that places trans and cis people on the same level, and cis people regard this equality as degrading. in effect, "trans" IS used as a slur. The same terms that place majorities on the same level as minorities always get the same treatment. I agree that it is a flawed talking point in that it takes bigot claims at face value, rather than what it is: a desire to shut down real conversation.
You know, my best friend, a Trans Woman, was raised in a Very Very conservative household, and she was super transphobic and once, to our school, it came a trans guy to give a talk about being queer and the whole thing, and at one particular moment where he was talking about gender euphoria/Dysphoria She interrupted looking all livid and said "But it's not like you can just change who you're born as! you're not a woman, you're a man!", and the guy said: "You're rigth on that" and now looking back, I think her egg broke that day. And everytime I see an accidental ally I remember that day.
Ngl thats a dope egg cracking. Its like all of the hate is washed away by a realization you can become someone better. Hope she is doing great and has support.
@@lorelei2002 She's doing better, The transphobia didn't washed away immediatley though, even now she still has some internalized bad ideas about herself, but still, I've never seen her happier.
@@simonquintana5098 honestly, my family wasn't conservative, but they were transphobic and I had a similar experience. It wasn't until I was sort of tripped up on my own words that it sunk in and I started to question myself at all. Now I'm a genderfluid androgyne/woman-adjacent enby who will argue vehemently for the validity of anyone's gender even if I don't understand it, and am constantly railing against gender constructivism (what I call the social construction of strictly defined gender roles, basically the antithesis to gender abolition which is the idea of degendering anything to which gender is not relevant along with the loosening and even removal of gender constructs to the point that people don't even need labels but can still apply them as wanted.)
I (a trans guy) have had real life in person conversations with transphobes who really, really care about this issue, but have _never_ done even the most basic research. People actually shocked to learn that gender affirming surgeries aren't done on children. One lady was super firm that that top surgery is done on pre-pubescent girls. I asked, "What exactly are they removing?" Befuddled silence. I get transphobia. Bigotry sucks but I understand how it happens. But being so firm on a bigoted opinion without even looking up the basics? That I don't understand.
A lot of them wouldn't be transphobes in the first place if they actually knew what they are talking about (ofc, a lot of them also knowingly make up bs to hurt people)
They're so sure that genital surgeries are being done on children because effectively _all_ of their transphobic "thought" leaders tell them so. Often in the media, sometimes in formal government proceedings under oath. Every safeguard to ensure accurate information seems to be abandoned when transphobes want to justify their BS, either because they claim their garbage is "religious" or because they're so confident that they, not biologists, are the arbiters of what counts as "real biology" (and the same for medicine, sociology, anthropology, history, philosophy, psychology and language). All the Enlightened Centrists seem to have decided that transphobes get a get-out-of-reality-free card.
@@thedaydreamerxShe followed all guidelines for trans youth. Blockers around 11 to give her time to mature and figure herself out, hormones around 16, and the only reason she had her bottom surgery a month before her 18th birthday was because that was the only time it could be scheduled and within a month of 18 is legal.
English teachers complaining about “they/them/their” being used as a singular pronoun really are straight up ignoring *centuries of literature and history* lmao
@@velvetbutterflyOh, I will have to go find it, but I literally JUST saw in comments on another video something to the effect of "Yes, an Elizabethan author might have used the singular they to fit into a particular rhyme scheme, but they would'nt have used it in formal language." -___- Nevermind the idea that writing for publication isn't formal language.
Some of us literally just got trained on some stupid, arbitrary rules in our 80s grade school education, so now we have to reprogram ourselves. Doable, of course, but it has taken me longer than I would have liked.
I mean, formally it isn't, because the use isn't instituicionalized yet, but outside of formal contexts, no one should care. Complaining the use of it anywhere is simply against the scientific approach to any object, you observe a phenomenon and then you formulate hypothesis around that, which will be tested and then generate a result, which will be retested and changed a bit trying to isolate other variables that the first test might not get and then formulate the theory, condensing the findings. Not just get a rule from a case and applying it to everything. The latter is bad methodology and non-scientific.
The picture from Shrek saying what trans people actually look like just has me like. “True, so true, I know plenty of cis women who look like that, too.”
Me sitting here like "okay so like, it's true, but where's the problem with looking like literally anybody in the bottom picture?" (except Fiona. If you're green, please see a doctor)
@@twistedmyth5860 yep, and it's more relatable too. Let's see, do I wanna be sit in the corner waiting for someone to save me, or be a kickass human who is capable of handling problems? Hmmm, it's soooo hard to decid...kickass
I love how the first part "Trans women aren't traditional Disney princesses they're the princess side characters from Shrek 2" completely missing that the Shrek 2 characters are a gang of pseudo femenist revolutionaries who are sick of being treated as helpless damsels in destress by rebeling violently against gender norms. Or they didn't miss it and they're just sexist. Same result.
A great quote my teacher recited to me was, in the perspective of bigots talking about minorities, “They’re not trying to live their lives, they’re trying to destroy ours.”
Truer words have not been spoken, but why is it? Well, they consider it a war, and you as the enemy, and when they want war, they want nothing short of completely anihalating the enemy, but it's too late for that, the knowlege is already too common
OH COME ON UA-cam I CAN'T EVEN MAKE A JOKE ABOUT SPHEROID SHAPED BONES NOW?! Just imagine that I made a hilarious comment about carpal and tarsal bones.
In so many ways, The Ugly Step-Sister is one of my favourite representations of transfemininity ever. She's a sympathetic character, who is resourceful, tough and capable, and when she is treated poorly for the way she looks the other women defend her. She's also sweet, kind and motherly towards the people she's close to and doesn't rely on external validation to be sure.of who she is and feel good about herself. She's everything and more and is genuinely one of my trans heros and someone I have looked up to since I was a child.
I always thought she was a slightly unflattering representation of a trans woman, I never realized she was one of the stepsisters. I definitely should have figured that out sooner lol
They can't even be bothered to change the W to a M (or any other identity but they're not smart enough to know about those), because (I'm willing to bet) they don't even know what the acronym stands for.
Someone commented this acronym on one of my videos, and I was confused for like 2 minutes because all of the results from Google were just about a song titled that. If I hadn't scrolled down far enough, I would have just stayed confused why they were recommending some random song. Ironically, I was also contemplating being nonbinary at that moment, so it just made me laugh at how hard they were trying to be secretly offensive.
Whenever I see that, I can't help but call it "factory-produced transphobia". I'm not sure if that phrase encapsulates what I mean but it's basically what you said. Couldn't even bother to make their own transphobia, so they used store-bought instead.
Also she's transphobic so perhaps she's against changing one's name, but she added a random K to her name while she doesn't actually have a second name that starts with a K 😂
@@vocalsunleashed I believe I once heard that the publisher or the agent or whoever proposed using initials because a book written by someone with a name associated with women, in this instance, Joanne, might not sell as well, so that's why she went with JK. It's giving the same vibes as cheaters who irrationally think their partners are cheating, because when you're doing it, you think others are as well. So someone who thinks that transmen use their new status as male to get ahead and to get out of misogyny and inequality (something she actually spouted), would make sense such a person has this type of thought process.
@@SeaBreeze-w9999IDK man, maybe when she went on a rant saying that trans femmes are 'pretending' to be women and trans mascs are either 'confused,' 'being taken advantage of,' or 'trying to escape misogyny to get ahead'? Or when she not only said she would refuse to use a trans individual's preferred identifiers, and went so far as to name individual trans women in her threats in order to direct her transphobic cronies to harrass them?
I used to be a pedant about “they/them” only being for plural because grade school English(!), but I came across a webcomic that had someone making that argument, then referring to a bad driver as “look at the way they’re driving.” And it made me actually stop and think about how often I did use “they” in a singular sense. It was such a silly thing, but it did work as a great teaching moment for me.
So what lmao Suddenly you are all traditionalists and look to the past for justification But when we say no one thought about gender identity the way it is thought about today, we get "well we have developed since then" lmao
@@saoirse2963People who live their lives outside of the gender binary have existed for all of human history. The word “non-binary” may be only 30ish years old, but people who live as neither man or woman have existed for thousands and thousands of years.
14:45 actually, it is totally possible to be an intersex person, to be assigned male at birth and starting having period, and the ability to get pregnant at puberty. And it is totally possible for such a person to identify as a woman, a trans woman as she was assigned male at birth. So, yes, human biology is so diverse that it is not impossible to be a pregnant trans woman. And if this person identifies as a man, as he was assigned at birth, he literally is a cis man who can get pregnant… Joanne ??? Joanne ??? Are you still with us ?
Do you know an actual case of that? It would be interesting to see, because it's quite unlikely to be AMAB and then be able to be pregnant. Unless, of course, whoever assigned the gender at birth was very drunk or something. But if it's an intersex condition that led to the development of noticeable male genitalia, then I doubt this person could be fertile. Again, if such a case was described, I'd be happy to read. I'm a biologist and sex determination is definitely one of my favorite topics.
@@annaurum8992 not someone that I know personally, but yes there is some exemple of intersex people who have functioning uterus. I’ve seen an article on BBC Africa (in French), about an intersex person called Lea (for the article), born with ambiguous genome, assigned female at birth. Later at the start of puberty, that person was assigned male by a doctor, due to the evolution of his genitals. And then at 16, he started to menstruate and doctors decided not to remove his uterus because it was functional. And he was gendered male in the article. As link don’t work on UA-cam, I don’t have a lot to help you find this article, and there is no reference of any scientific studies about similar cases. The article was published on 25/11/2020. And yes, you have plenty of intersex people who menstruates, and have a functional uterus, and some of them can look masculine and have been assigned male at birth. And of course they can be of any gender. So I did extrapolate from that as if he was assigned male at birth, not at puberty. And I think that is another consequence of sex reassignment operations, or HRT forced on intersex people : we don’t have a lot of examples of intersex people developing naturally. Which is sadly ironic as none of the transphobes who claim falsely that trans children go through surgery before puberty don’t care at all for intersex children who do suffer from such chirurgical operations.
@@samwisegamgee6532 Thank you so much for bringing this up. I'm an example of an intersex person with a functional uterus. We absolutely exist, have periods, and can get pregnant (although for me, it's a dangerous hormonal nightmare - my fallopian tubes were tied at 18 because of it - I'm just one example, every intersex person is different).
@@annaurum8992 it's not that unlikely. A lot of time a babies sex is determined by "it's a penis if we think it will be big enough to penetrate, otherwise it's a large clitoris".
Nice, I had people try to "insult" me by saying I was acting like a boy. Other people got offended on my behalf, and even got mad at me for not caring. And the "explanation" of "But doesn't it feel worse to be called a boy?". Nope, they felt about the same. Yeah, I'm non-binary, that should've been a clue, but I didn't even know trans people existed yet.
My theory is that cis people get offended by "cis" because they know it's a prefix, and they also know that “trans” is a prefix, but they think trans people aren't normal (which is wrong), so they think "cis" makes them not normal (wrong).
Not, we just refuse to accept your demented idea of "gender identity" and that "cis women" and "trans women" are two subcategories of women, and the same goes for men.
I was just at this point in the video and was going to comment the same thing, haha. If these people viewed trans people as normal, which they are, then there would be no problem using cis as a prefix.
Hey i dont like the prefix cis cuz im a biological woman, a trans woman is not. I would rather say biological women then cis! Thank you for respecting us :) (not a hate comment just so u know)
Probably because sin is a choice? So, "if you don't do as I say you'll go to hell" kind of logic, but applied on something you can't really get because it's internal thinking
Same reason they think sexuality is a choice... Because they don't "choose to sin" as if an all-powerful all-knowing god could give us free will. To clarify, omnipotent and omniscient is MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE FROM free will. It pretty much precludes the existence of a god at this point.
Fun added note. They showed up singular in the 14th century. You (though used longer in polite conversation) did not replace thou/thee as the singular version until the 17th century.
@@SeaBreeze-w9999it was for a specific person you didn’t know what their gender were. “I saw my friend Alex in the shop” “oh cool, who are they?” Really it can be (and always was) both.
My trans senses tingled and lo and behold - a Jamie upload, 33 seconds ago. Anyway, remember when Harry Potter's message was about "you can be whoever you want to be" or something of the sort?
The Sorting Hat was literally about to sort Harry into Slytherin, but he went with Gryffindor because Harry didn't want to be in Slytherin. If that's not self ID, I don't know what is.
@@LoremIpsum-dp1liyep, and it’s revealed in Order of the Phoenix that the sorting hat also considered putting Hermione in Ravenclaw but she chose Gryffindor.
I don't understand why people stopped their knowledge about biology at a fifth grade level. That is like not recognizing all of the words that don't fall under the " I before E, except after C" rule that children start with. It's bizarre to me.
@@vocalsunleashed Yeah we're taught it when we're younger and learning how to spell longer words but it's essentially abandoned and forgotten about the next year, never to be brought up again because it's *so* inconsistent that it's basically useless as a rule
@@vocalsunleashed It is a bad rule. My understanding is that there are more words it tells you the wrong thing than there are words where it is correct.
It does suck, as someone who's MtF, because i know people will be alot more hateful, but i always love hearing stories from FtM's who ran into transphobes
@@woofie3917 not ftm but non-binary, and yeah, it can be entertainingly stupid. I've been told I'd never be a woman and that I clearly wasn't putting in any effort because anyone could tell from a mile away that I was obviously a man....while on my period. Oh, and not binding while wearing a T-shirt, my chest is unfortunately far away from small. It doesn't matter what I look like to people like this, they will assume I'm a trans woman and nothing can change their mind.
@@waffles3629 I, a mostly cis man, was misgendered sporting a full beard. In hindsight : I think they were trying to get a rise out of me. But I am *this close* to saying: "use any pronouns to address me."
@@economicprisoner yep, it's pathetic. I don't even care what people like this address me as. Like it's entertaining when they make a fool of themselves, but still stupid.
i don't understand feeling safe in a women's locker room, even if it's all cis women. you're always being judged on your body, or if you glance just a second too long in the vague direction of another woman. i vote no locker rooms for anyone, i'm going home to change.
Or just like, individual changing rooms in locker rooms, that would solve a few things, How hard would it be, to dedicate like a single room for about 10 or more changing rooms
Yep. I was getting screamed at in locker rooms long before I learned trans people existed, let alone before I figured out I'm trans. Apparently, even in a fitness center, T-shirt plus sweatpants equals man. One person actually got an employee to "get you kicked out". Which didn't work, especially as I was down to my underwear when she got back. She then denied that it was me she was threatening violence towards. Not a single person in the locker room came to my defense, even when a few people were screaming at me with very specific threats. I wasn't even a teenager yet.
I do lots of theater, and most of the time it's just one big shared dressing room for everybody. Nobody cares. I don't know what these people think the problem is going to be.
My local swimming pool has a completely open changing room, men, women, families, disabled, doesn't matter. Everyone is in the same room, there's open showers and cubicle showers. Everyone gets changed in cubicles because that's normal. I don't even understand why people have such a need for separate bathrooms and changing rooms anyway. You enter a bathroom or changing room and enter a cubicle, where you can't be seen by any other human, I genuinely don't under the issue.
@sydneylong2322 I know it's wild to me. I go swimming with my family every single week, and never once has anything bad happened in those changing rooms. Are some people really so afraid of washing their hands next to a person who may or may not have the same genitals as them?
@@bambino05 yes, yes they are. I was in a restaurant that just had a row of enclosed private bathrooms right off a semi main hallway. Every room had its own toilet, sink and mirror (about half had changing tables, clearly marked on the doors). There was a Karen throwing an absolute tantrum, *DEMANDING* the manager tell her where the women's bathroom was RIGHT NOW because "my daughter can't share a bathroom with men". Yeah, I don't think her kid was old enough to know the difference between men and whales. The manager had to threaten to call the cops to get her to stop shouting.
@@bambino05 Well, there is a difference how you treat family and how you treat strangers. But Yeah, a bit exaggerated cause the Karen could just go there and stand next to her daughter
Honestly, the final factor that precipitated my transition was being unable to picture myself as an old man. Middle-aged women look like moms, and I'm okay with that :)
So, I just watched the documentary about the finding of Richard III's remains, and there was an interesting bit about bone structures where they outright said they couldn't tell by looking at the bones if the skeleton they found was male or female remains. Because, shock and horror (not really): it's not that simple!
Yeah - in a way it's similar to deciding if someone is M or F based on their height. Yes, someone who is 6'4" is more likely to be M than F, and in modern Western society someone who is 5'1" is more likely to be F than M -- but that's just likelihood, not diagnostic. None of the bone markers are definitive. Here's something - feel for the little bump at the back of your skull. Is it "prominent"? You are likely M. (Note that "Prominent" is a subjective, relative term). That's what most of the bone markers are like.
I don't understand the frustration over they/them either tbh. I've worked in healthcare for many years and when documenting on accounts or reporting on incidents I always refer to patients as neutrally as possible. It's not really that hard
My English teacher told me to use "he or she" instead of singular they or pretend to know the gender and just pick one as long as I am being consistent with it in the text in question. As a non-native that made me very confused at that time and for the longest time I thought singular they was just an Internet thing
"pretend to know the gender and just pick one as long as I'm being consistent" WHAT????? Don't do that, don't ever do that. The ONLY time when "pick whatever pronoun you like" is good advice is if you're writing about God (in which case there is never any ambiguity about who you're referring to anyway). Picking a pronoun for someone you don't know is VERY rude. Use "they" when you don't know the person's gender. The correct declension is "they are" for both singular and plural. If your subject is singular however, the correct reflexive is "themself" not "themselves". Your teacher probably told you "they are a lawyer" is not correct, but actually this is just fine. "They are" is an indicator of formal register here: which is appropriate since you don't know this person. We do the same thing in all persons in English, although the first person use is rarer (it is generally only used when referring to oneself as the representative of a class, as I just did). It's also the convention in French and German, although those languages have less need for it since they can use their articles as pronouns (this is generally regarded as silly in English). The thing that is new, is that some people prefer to be known as "they" even in informal contexts. But, a formal pronoun becoming informal is nothing new in English (that's why we have singular "you": technically the informal singular second person is "thou" but nobody ever says that).
Ugh, a high school English teacher despised singular they so much she would frequently mistakenly mark plural they as wrong (this was over a decade ago, long before trans people were well known). But it was hopeless to bring up to her because she refused to admit she made mistakes. I tried to explain I was talking about a group, but she just got huffy and said something like "If I marked it wrong, it was wrong". So I "corrected" it to "A group of he's and she's went to the library" (or whatever the group was doing), and she told me it was supposed to be they when referencing a group. At which point I pulled out the previous draft and showed it to her, and she refused to answer "Then what's this?", while pointing at her note saying they was wrong.
Well, in academic language, because before they hated the frensh, the British wanted to sound civilised(latin), he/him can be used as a neutral pronoun, probably because it's considered default? But I don't think much people do that
My native language doesn't have gendered pronouns, but I could swear my English teachers also taught to use "she or he" if the person was unknown. That just rolls off the tongue doesn't it. I have probably used singular they instinctively a lot, but when ever I start to overthink referring to a person of unknown gender, I just avoid using any pronouns.
"It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be." This was one of the core themes of her books, but she fails to uphold them in real life. It's like JK Rowling actively disagrees with the message in her OWN books; it's crazy.
My dad says he wants me ‘in therapy but not a therapy you would like’ and I said “What kind of therapy” ‘The kind of therapy to convince you to be yourself..’ “Conversion Therapy?” ‘No, not that’ and then he stopped talking.. smh
Ugh, my parents offered to pay for therapy. Which I might've taken them up on if they were actual therapists, and not religious. Faith counselors are not therapists.
Yeah, Furry Hate has always sort of been a bit of a dog-whistle for anti-LGBTQ tendencies. Furries tend to have more queer representation than most other fanbases (about 75% identify as LGBTQ) and the majority of straight furries are allies. It just seems like Furry Hate is sort of a 'sanitized' queerphobia.
the whole thing about "when they find your bones!" thing makes zero sense to me, and I'm trained as an osteoarchaeologist and forensic archaeologist... One, even in assumed cis individuals, the identification of someone's sex from their bones is not a binary thing either male or female, it's a spectrum and most people fall closer to the middle of the range than the extremes; two, every time it's possible, the identification of the sex of an individual is as much guided by the traits of the remains as it is by the context of the burial, including grave goods, positioning and where possible grave markers! Also, it's meant to broadly categorise the biological sex of someone not their gender or social role, those are totally different and if any hypothesis can be made about those, it's guided by the material evidence found with the individual's burial and what is known of the culture in the area and period that person lived in!
Yes! The whole thing about being instantly able to identify you from bones is ridiculous. All the literature says that it is not an absolute science and much of the identification involves context such as clothing or items found with the skeleton.
@@amylynn3821 yep, movies and TV shows make this so bad. They'll just look at a clothed skeleton from across the room and go "10 year old male" and the kid will have turned out to be 9.75. It's bullshit.
How to fix this "issue": get buried with a trans flag. What about people who are cremated? Do you think with today's technology people aren't buried with their photos or get this, video recordings?????
American here. We do just call the American football a football. What you call football, we call it a soccer ball since the sport itself is called soccer here.
Hopefully they don't do like Europeans did when they discovered mummies *shudder* (they ate their dust for strength and longevity or something if you didn't know)
@@SeaBreeze-w9999 intersex people would like to know where your brain went People who understand the difference between gender and sex would like to know where your brain went
I used to this 'cis' sounded like a derogitory term, even though I recognised it wasn't (I'm a cis woman). I listened to Jamie's videos, did some reading, talked to my friend's trans boyfriend, and I got over it! Funny how education can teach us stuff, ey?
my mom is like, SUPER convinced that i, a 17 year old trans guy, would just be prescribed hormones the second i go into a gender clinic hence the ban on lgbtq spaces. we live in california, so maybe, but im not convinced. she says she researches and reads articles on shit like this but her sources are super right wing biased and are probably not all that accurate anyways. this is why i dont read articles unless i know for a fact they are bipartisan or just neutral. my moms a little crazy ehen it comes to trans stuff tho like she told me to wait to get top surgery until im 25 and im NOT waiting that long to get dysphoria relief.
I'm a trans women in Cali. My memory sucks but if I recall correctly, the clinic first had me meet with someone who explained to me what to expect and the risks of transitioning. If you're still a minor a letter from a gender therapist is required as well as a guardians permission to start hrt. Blood test will be done and and other measurements of your health will be taken. Then you can schedule an appointment with a nurse and discuss the starting dosage. I had to talk to like 5 or 6 different people and fill out quite a lot of paperwork before being prescribed anything, which happened over a timespan if months. Maybe my experience will give you an idea of what to expect
Ugh, condolences on the less than stellar parentage. My parents forbid me from getting a hysterectomy. A hysterectomy I was getting for medical reasons. Hope you get top surgery as soon as you can, I want it too.
@@waffles3629 shes not even a bad parent its just lgbtq shit and neurodivergence...im autistic so she thinks i think im trans BECAUSE im autistic but she didnt even believe me until my therapist who she hated beyond all reason told her im autistic so im just over it atp...
3:36 I can guarantee that trans is censored because they think it's a slur; a way to refer to someone as being inferior. They probably also think cis is slur because it implies the mere existence of trans people (we are very scary, apparently).
12:31 - looks like that 'Homeschool' plan isn't exactly yielding great results for YOU, hun'! 🤣 Also... the Jesus and Drag Queen team-up is just so wholesome. It looks like they're both going "Come right over here and give me a big hug NOW!"
Oh my god. At the part you said that many transphobes think there are only trans women, I realised that when I was kid, I hadn't realised that trans goes both ways. For some reason, the phobic society of Greece (where I am from and grew up in), only gives it's negative attention to trans women. And in fact the first term I heard around it was "transvestites" (τραβεστί). As a result, I was thrilled when in my really late teens I learned that FtM trans is a thing too. Before that I felt like a crazy person and that I can only imagine changing a body (There were many times that I imagined I wouldn't mind transitioning, but still, because I've come to the realisation that I'm genderfluid and I still live around family that can't understand LGBTQ+ and frowns upon it, I keep using female pronouns. Only my close friends know and it's very affirming when male pronouns are used occasionally😊)
I think what happens is simply that people don't think of transmen as a threat. After all, if you believe that a transman is a woman and has the physical characteristics of a woman - that is, weaker muscle strength, no penis etc - well this person can't physically overpower another adult, doesn't have the equipment to rape, and so on. On top of that, these machist cultures often also have this widespread idea that if a person with a vagina approaches a person with a penis for sex, that could not possibly be rape, because a man will always want to have sex with a woman when the opportunity presents itself. So again - that trans man is not a threat (as long as we don't allow them to transition, of course). Trans women are considered a threat for two reasons: a) they may trick a straight cis man into sleeping with them, which would amount to rape of said cis man, and b) they want to be let into women's spaces while being physically capable of raping women just as easily as a cis man would. The underlying idea that makes the concept of "women can't rape men" viable in their minds also makes trans women even more dangerous, because a person with a penis will always choose to have sex when the opportunity presents itself - and being alone with a woman in a bathroom (a place any *decent* man would hesitate to enter) is the perfect opportunity. Of course, propose to these people the idea that an *ugly* woman may drug them to have sex with them, and all of a sudden the idea of "women can't rape men" is not that obvious... and that's without mentioning there are absolutely cis women in this world who violate minors. But yeah... this is what lies below those cultural norms and behaviors. Anyway, good on you for figuring yourself out, and I wish you the best.
Lol same for me too (I'm NB raised in Athens in the 90s-00s), and i couldn't understand why it felt so good to use male adjectives or appear masc from time to time XD It's so funny because transphobes think you "become" trans from being exposed to trans "ideology" but the opposite is actually true. You feel it before you even have words to describe it.
@@alphaspearl9728 yep, looking back I can remember things from as young as 6 that were pretty obvious now that I know. I called puberty torture years before I knew trans people existed.
Yep, I also learned that trans women existed first, and my first thought was "Why would anyone want to be a woman? Being a woman sucks". Still didn't figure it out for a few years until I learned about non-binary people. Cause being a girl sucked, but I didn't want to be a boy, so I must just suck at being a girl. Or I'm just not a girl, turns out you don't have to teach yourself that.
Yeah it's kind of crazy just how much you feel in your hair after cropping it short XD Suddenly I have to wear hats to avoid being cold. It's cool though because no more hat hair.
"A single trans person will never be multiple women, true" Actually, funnily enough, that's false, too - I thought I was just trans, and then found out I'm a system, so right here is a trans person that's also multiple women (and men, and other gender identities, but I wanted to make the joke)
Ah yes - perhaps more of us who are a system (both cis and trans) should jump into these 'debates' with transpohobes - if only to mess with their heads and troll them. 😉
You can also immediately tell the transphobes by the lack of correct grammar as, you know, because it stems from a lack of education and being unwilling to learn.
@@abibano tell you what I automatically report any UA-cam video that drifts into my feed that refers to "gender cult" or "ideology" or cries about women's rights and then refers to gender cult or ideology. I don't see the sport one as much anymore I just see this constant reduction of what we are to some sort of silly ass internet fad like eating Tide pods.
i bought boxers for the first time even though i've been living as male for almost 8 years. someone called me "he" when i asked for help and it made me super happy.
sick haircut! that scene from shrek has always been one of my favorite scenes from any movie ever LOL i remember losing my mind when i was younger as "immigrant song" picks up and one of them sics her birds on the badies TToTT
A tad off-topic, but I just wanted to thank you Jamie. Your appearance and mannerisms remind me so much of my older brother, and that's originally what caused me to start stepping away from transphobia, because you were so much like him that of course you were a man. Years later, I realized that I'm trans, and my brother is very transphobic. Just this morning that came to a head and he doesn't want me around his family despite him coming to visit the rest of the family. He won't budge on his beliefs, and I won't compromise on my identity, and our parents, through their inaction and enabling, are ultimately siding with him, even though they would rather we all get along. So thank you Jamie for showing me what my brother could've been like in another life.
thank you for saying that stuff about the history of singular they. i’m nonbinary and my english teacher (who LOVES shakespeare) has both said it’s incorrect and she’s called me “problematic” for wanting her to call me my chosen name in school but not when talking to my parents. ❤ edit: 4 hours later and i’ve just been outed to my whole family. watching jaime videos to calm down.
I, Internet Uncle-Gay🏳️🌈, say that You. Are. _Valid._ and I hope you are safe. And if you have to lie to your family to stay safe, do it. Pretend to not be you, while keeping your TrueSelf hidden, secret, and safe. It's sad when someone needs to do that, but we queerfolk have been doing just that for decades - and then we leave home, find our Logical Family, and never again speak to our bioillogical family. I've known many people who've had to do this. I hope you don't have to, but if you do, know that you're not alone.
Jamie! Thank you so much for everything. You've helped me so much without even realizing it. You've shown me there's other trans youth like myself who can relate to what i'm going through. You've shown me lovely communities of reddit and other socials where i can be myself. I'm slowly coming out to people around me and you've been helping me with tips and things that i would've never realized. Thank you so so much. You're the trans dad i've always wanted to have as a son, love you 💜💜
the whole “cis slur” thing is so annoying not only because cis has NEVER been a slur, but because cisgender was a term created to categorize people who identify with their gender assigned at birth so that said people aren’t just assumed as “the default” while trans people are othered. Refusing to use cisgender to refer to someone who is/insisting that cis others cisgender people does nothing but obfuscate the harm trans people have faced from being othered in so many ways that it seeps into our very language. As a queer person, sometimes labels annoy me, but the trans vs cis label is *so important* because if trans people are trans and cis people are cis, then there isn’t a dynamic created where trans people are officially outsiders and cis people just get to be “normal” people or the only “real” people. People who think trans people are monsters are the most monstrous people on this planet I swear
I'm extremely confident that is _exactly_ why those sorts of people hate the prefix. They want to be the assumed default from which all deviation occurs. Quite a large number of them seem incapable of even wrapping their heads around the idea that there is no default. To them, it can only be an attempt to usurp their rightful place in the hierarchy.
Big "don't call us heterosexual; we're NORMAL" energy from the "cis is a slur" crowd. It's literally the Latin opposite of the Latin prefix "trans". Most of the complaints I have seen, they either don't like the sound of it (eww, sounds like they're calling us cisterns or sissies), or they are ignorant, or bad-faith arguers who are being combative just to "own the libs".
transphobes thinking trans men are "trans women" and vice versa will never cease to amaze me. WHY WOULD WE CALL OURSELVES THE GENDER WE DO NOT WANT TO BE CALLED?
Gotta also address the attempts to stigmatize "cis". The purpose for it is quite insidious. They're NOT really offended by it, but by painting it as a slur, they're attempting to take away a descriptor that implies that trans men are men and trans women are women. They're not stopping at the specific word "cis". They're taking it to "I'm just a woman" or "I'm a REAL woman". They're trying to liming woman/man to ONLY refer to cis women/men and block trans women/men from calling themselves "men" or "women". They want the language to be "Trans women" and "women" not "Trans women" and "cis ( Or any other prefix to distinguish them from trans women ) women". Labeling "cis" as a "slur" not only attempts to stigmatize the term, but it also is an attempt to paint us "kooky lefties" as hypocrites for using slurs.
@@katyamcadams If you don't apply your moral values to the people you don't like then they aren't moral values at all, just privileges you give to the people you like.
i love necronymifying twitter i also love the word "necronym" (synonymous with "deadname"), it sounds so cool and i can't wait for an opportunity to use it irl
I used to think I was unique in having a lot of problems with how I feel about gender. And the more trans issues enter the mainstream, the more I realize EVERYONE, especially cis people, have a lot of problems with how they feel about gender. 🤣🤣🤣
I remember when my teacher shown us an educational video on how some people get marginalised in society like overweight, with mental or physical disorders, of colorr or lgbtq+. Back then I was just a kid in a catholic school and I remember hearing some girls say: ooh I get it but did you see that? One of them was GAY! (as if that was a forbidden word) and that's when I first realised what homophobia is. My little brain was like: Wasn't the point that... All those people were normal just like us? Do you seriously look at all marginalised groups and say "God loves you" turn to lgbtq+ and totally forget about it? Yeah... BTW the same girl then relised she likes girls lol
I learned about cis interaction (biology) “cis interaction often refers to cell-intrinsic interactions of two membrane proteins, while a trans interaction refers to binding between two proteins from different cells” and I wonder if this is the origin of the prefix “cis” used in gender context. Either way I giggled when I get it in my biology textbook
you are correct. The term cisgender was coined by Dana Defosse, who was a graduate student at the time, in 1994. she has said that they chose to use the prefix cis because it was already used in the scientific field. Dana has an article on Huff Post about why she created the term and how it's evolved. Bonus for anyone who reads this reply: The prefix cis is Latin in origin meaning _on this side of_.
I'm trans masculine, and have gotten quietly ghosted when I tried to get top surgery. Got as far as the consultation with the surgeon, taking pictures, the in person examination of the site, description of the procedure... and then just.... *never* gave me an appointment. And somehow was Out every time I called across an entire week to try and ask about it. I'm a 32 DDD at minimum, the main reason for this surgery was my chronic back pain. She did not know I wasn't cis until I mentioned it as an additional perk to the procedure, and how excited I was to look more how I wanted AND not be in as much pain anymore. I have no proof that's why I was ghosted. Just a terrible feeling of dread that if I hadn't trusted that woman with who I was, my life would be materially better right now. Every time I reckon with that feeling, I also reckon with the thought that Not Being Here would be so much easier. Cue the angry crying. I think I mostly still exist out of spite at this moment.
I just want to make sure that you know that you're valid and loved. If possible, I'd see if you could change surgeons, and report the ghosting, as that's highly unprofessional. Please accept some hugs from this random internet mama, and don't give up! 💙💗🤍💗💙
I've used that very same google screenshot about the singular they/them usage, and I was told that I shouldn't obey some "arbitrary authority" on language, and just use he or she. You know, the OED being the "arbitrary authority" on language that I should not obey. I never found out what authority this person thought I should be following.
transphobes are lingusitic prescriptivists, 3000%, their imposing a definition of man/women no one uses, and then redefining how pronouns and grammar work from how they actually do, due to arbitrary authoritarian standards based on your precious arbitrary gender norms being threatened, that were intentionally designed to exclude a specific group of men/women they dont like..
I love how so many Accidental Allies hear or see the word "transgender" and *immediately* assume male to female (especially if they see a picture of an openly trans man with a beard and respond with *"He's not even attempting to look like a woman.")* Some also think "trans woman" means female to male & "trans man" means male to female.
3:11 Make sure you differentiate people with XXY, people with chimera chromosomes, with mosaic chromosomes, and people who have XY but due to androgen sensitivity stuff develop extremely as a cis woman.
So my theory as to why the term cis causes such a response is because it removes the assumption of a default or "normal" state of being. From a transphobe's perspective, there's men and women or trans men and trans women with the prefix denoting the "anomaly", othering the trans community from everyone else. However, once you start using cis as well, that "default status" no longer applies because the prefix is simply another descriptor, like hair colour, and so people feel threatened by a perceived loss of status. Also, I just got incredibly strong deja vu so apologies if I've said this here before already.
the only trans story ive heard of someone being harmed in the women's restroom was Nex. and they were forced to be in there and murdered by girls. but none of the transphobes cared about that.
@@saoirse2963 THEY were forced to use the girls restroom because there were no gender neutral bathrooms and no teacher would allow them to use the staff restroom. They were being bullied and tried to get them to stop by SPLASHING WATER ON THE GIRLS. and in return the girls BEAT THEM in the bathroom. the school brushed it off and tried to hide it. they died the next day. even if they did OD, i would still say the girls had a part in it for literally beating them in the bathroom. bullying does lead to suicides in many cases and i believe said bullies are responsible. but you do not know they ODed. but the girls did beat them up for trying to stand up to them by SPLASHING WATER ON THEM. if you believe the girls were justified in beating another child up because they splashed water on them, i dont know what is wrong with you.
@@SeaBreeze-w9999 You been living under a rock to not know the context of claiming easily prevented deaths of a minority don't matter cause it was an OD?
Whenever I hear someone complain about they/them being used in the singular, I go "Oh look, someone left THEIR keys, hopefully THEY come back soon" (or something like that). I always get eye rolls, but it amuses me and hopefully it'll eventually help them learn.
@@YarrowTV Please go ahead and use it, hopefully it works on at least one person. And share your own if you want, I'd love to switch every so often, just to keep it fresh for me lol.
@@YarrowTV I love all of those and I'll had them to my repertoire. I'll admit that I don't take the time to set up the premise, I'll just pull out my keys and say the thing. I know it's kind of immature, but my point is initially to shut them up and, secondarily, hopefully make them think (I'm a bit impatient these days lol)
Every single person who has _"explained"_ to me why they can't use singular they/them had used singular they/them in their explanation. Including online when they are typing.
@@SeaBreeze-w9999 Maybe, and slip ups might happen, but you should still accept it when people tell you their pronouns are they/them and make every effort possible to use said pronouns when referring to them.
Because most women and teenage girls feel safer and more comfortable in a single-sex bathrooms and locker rooms. What about public showers and dressing rooms, by the way? Do you want them to be gender-neutral as well?
I love when people have to say that they are not emotional, or say you’re the triggered one. In one breath. While saying that you’re the one with lgbt+ being all about your personality. When we live in their head, rent free. So they have to project their own emotionally reactive bigotry as their personality 24/7 when no one asked them to say anything! It’s especially telling when Elon Musk, of all people. Has to tell you to chill out about it XD
Finding bones won't do much. When they found the burial of a Viking warrior, they assumed it was a man. Took over two decades for other researchers to discover warrior had been a woman. Assumptions will play a bigger part than any analysis.
What did you think of these accidental allies??
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I still love that they still mistake trans men and women, its very funny
I literally opened up June's Journey to play while listening to the video!
You said that "people are either cis or trans" because we either are the gender that fits our birth-sex or not. But non-binary and intersex people don't fit that binary framework, so what are they?
First, thanks for sharing your thoughts, Jammi!:)
And directly to my nonsense: I think you are wrong on the first case. You see the women (they are drawings and fictional, btw.) as powerful and great women (an opinion I share). But you didn't get the intention of the author of the post: For him, they are ugly and unworthy. So he choose them. I think behind all of that is the pushback and rejection that he would experience if he openly spoke against women in such a way and pointed out his childish views. He subconsciously understood that. And that's exactly why he chooses trans women as the target of his hatred. At the end, this is just his valve for his insecurities and hate against women, because at the core this is pure misogyny. This person is simply too cowardly to say what he really thinks and takes the detour through his distorted worldview, in which trans people seem to be a target that suggests less resistance and backlash. So that author is an absolutely embarrassing coward!
Incidentally, the writers image of women and his values of beauty are completely sufficient to identify this person as an unpleasant fellow citizen and to immediately apply for an restraining order in court. And if the writer himself is a woman: Who needs enemies when he has friends like that?:)
I like to add rofl onto lmao because it sounds the cutest when you say it out like that. It almost sounds like you're too vigorously stroking a kitty cat.
Thinking that being compared to Fiona from shrek is anything but a complement is crazy, she is literal bodygoals
Strong and thiccc
I don't really want the green skin but everything else except the hair is 🍭🍬🌈🍉🍹💜💕👍❤️💖❣️❤️🔥🛹🎉💪🐃
It’s just iconic really
# beachogre2024
Fiona is literally a cis woman, who happens to be an ogre, too. She can canonically give birth. That just sounds like they’re making Trans Fiona AU/headcanons lmao
They think cis is a slur because they use trans as a slur...
Spot on!
Oh!!! That makes sense!
This talking point is dumb. “Trans” isn’t used as a slur. Other words are.
Exactly.
@@SeaBreeze-w9999 It is a fact, not a talking point, that opposition to "cis" is because it allows for discussion that places trans and cis people on the same level, and cis people regard this equality as degrading. in effect, "trans" IS used as a slur. The same terms that place majorities on the same level as minorities always get the same treatment.
I agree that it is a flawed talking point in that it takes bigot claims at face value, rather than what it is: a desire to shut down real conversation.
You know, my best friend, a Trans Woman, was raised in a Very Very conservative household, and she was super transphobic and once, to our school, it came a trans guy to give a talk about being queer and the whole thing, and at one particular moment where he was talking about gender euphoria/Dysphoria She interrupted looking all livid and said "But it's not like you can just change who you're born as! you're not a woman, you're a man!", and the guy said: "You're rigth on that" and now looking back, I think her egg broke that day.
And everytime I see an accidental ally I remember that day.
Ngl thats a dope egg cracking. Its like all of the hate is washed away by a realization you can become someone better. Hope she is doing great and has support.
@@lorelei2002 She's doing better, The transphobia didn't washed away immediatley though, even now she still has some internalized bad ideas about herself, but still, I've never seen her happier.
@@simonquintana5098 honestly, my family wasn't conservative, but they were transphobic and I had a similar experience. It wasn't until I was sort of tripped up on my own words that it sunk in and I started to question myself at all.
Now I'm a genderfluid androgyne/woman-adjacent enby who will argue vehemently for the validity of anyone's gender even if I don't understand it, and am constantly railing against gender constructivism (what I call the social construction of strictly defined gender roles, basically the antithesis to gender abolition which is the idea of degendering anything to which gender is not relevant along with the loosening and even removal of gender constructs to the point that people don't even need labels but can still apply them as wanted.)
I love it
What about trans women without balls, are they allowed in women's stalls???
I (a trans guy) have had real life in person conversations with transphobes who really, really care about this issue, but have _never_ done even the most basic research. People actually shocked to learn that gender affirming surgeries aren't done on children. One lady was super firm that that top surgery is done on pre-pubescent girls. I asked, "What exactly are they removing?" Befuddled silence.
I get transphobia. Bigotry sucks but I understand how it happens. But being so firm on a bigoted opinion without even looking up the basics? That I don't understand.
A lot of them wouldn't be transphobes in the first place if they actually knew what they are talking about (ofc, a lot of them also knowingly make up bs to hurt people)
They're so sure that genital surgeries are being done on children because effectively _all_ of their transphobic "thought" leaders tell them so. Often in the media, sometimes in formal government proceedings under oath. Every safeguard to ensure accurate information seems to be abandoned when transphobes want to justify their BS, either because they claim their garbage is "religious" or because they're so confident that they, not biologists, are the arbiters of what counts as "real biology" (and the same for medicine, sociology, anthropology, history, philosophy, psychology and language). All the Enlightened Centrists seem to have decided that transphobes get a get-out-of-reality-free card.
What about i am jazz? She was 16 a kid
@@thedaydreamerxso what were they removing?
@@thedaydreamerxShe followed all guidelines for trans youth. Blockers around 11 to give her time to mature and figure herself out, hormones around 16, and the only reason she had her bottom surgery a month before her 18th birthday was because that was the only time it could be scheduled and within a month of 18 is legal.
English teachers complaining about “they/them/their” being used as a singular pronoun really are straight up ignoring *centuries of literature and history* lmao
The extra layer of irony is when they say "language changes over time. That's not how modern language works"
It freaking PREDATES the singular "you"!!!
@@velvetbutterflyOh, I will have to go find it, but I literally JUST saw in comments on another video something to the effect of "Yes, an Elizabethan author might have used the singular they to fit into a particular rhyme scheme, but they would'nt have used it in formal language."
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Nevermind the idea that writing for publication isn't formal language.
Some of us literally just got trained on some stupid, arbitrary rules in our 80s grade school education, so now we have to reprogram ourselves. Doable, of course, but it has taken me longer than I would have liked.
I mean, formally it isn't, because the use isn't instituicionalized yet, but outside of formal contexts, no one should care.
Complaining the use of it anywhere is simply against the scientific approach to any object, you observe a phenomenon and then you formulate hypothesis around that, which will be tested and then generate a result, which will be retested and changed a bit trying to isolate other variables that the first test might not get and then formulate the theory, condensing the findings.
Not just get a rule from a case and applying it to everything. The latter is bad methodology and non-scientific.
The picture from Shrek saying what trans people actually look like just has me like. “True, so true, I know plenty of cis women who look like that, too.”
Me sitting here like "okay so like, it's true, but where's the problem with looking like literally anybody in the bottom picture?" (except Fiona. If you're green, please see a doctor)
Shrek Does have more realistic bodies than Disney princesses, so all women look more like the women in Shrek. And honestly? Those women look good.
@@twistedmyth5860 fr i always had a huge crush on the "ugly" sister tbh still do she was hot
@@twistedmyth5860 yep, and it's more relatable too. Let's see, do I wanna be sit in the corner waiting for someone to save me, or be a kickass human who is capable of handling problems? Hmmm, it's soooo hard to decid...kickass
And to be honest, it does sound like it applies to all women because of stupid body standards
I love how the first part "Trans women aren't traditional Disney princesses they're the princess side characters from Shrek 2" completely missing that the Shrek 2 characters are a gang of pseudo femenist revolutionaries who are sick of being treated as helpless damsels in destress by rebeling violently against gender norms. Or they didn't miss it and they're just sexist. Same result.
All transphobes are sexist
A great quote my teacher recited to me was, in the perspective of bigots talking about minorities, “They’re not trying to live their lives, they’re trying to destroy ours.”
And given how much time they spend obsessing over people who don't affect them in any way, they don't really have much of a life to begin with.
That’s so sad they really think they’re the center of our existence when we just want to live in peace without being politicized for being ourselves.
And we gays have known this since the 1980s.
@@John_Weiss actually, since forever, even the Nazis put them to the gas chambers
Truer words have not been spoken, but why is it? Well, they consider it a war, and you as the enemy, and when they want war, they want nothing short of completely anihalating the enemy, but it's too late for that, the knowlege is already too common
'No balls allowed in women's stalls' Eye... eyeballs?
before they let you enter a stall they give you a melon baller
Also, do they not know that ovaries are balls too? Do they think that ovaries are shaped like trapezoidal prisms lol?
Talking about footballs again
OH COME ON UA-cam I CAN'T EVEN MAKE A JOKE ABOUT SPHEROID SHAPED BONES NOW?!
Just imagine that I made a hilarious comment about carpal and tarsal bones.
@@Jane-oz7pp UA-cam censorship is out of control. I've called people's pets cute and had my comment disappear.
In so many ways, The Ugly Step-Sister is one of my favourite representations of transfemininity ever. She's a sympathetic character, who is resourceful, tough and capable, and when she is treated poorly for the way she looks the other women defend her. She's also sweet, kind and motherly towards the people she's close to and doesn't rely on external validation to be sure.of who she is and feel good about herself.
She's everything and more and is genuinely one of my trans heros and someone I have looked up to since I was a child.
The Ugly Stepsister who tried to steal Cinderella's husband? That one?
I always thought she was a slightly unflattering representation of a trans woman, I never realized she was one of the stepsisters. I definitely should have figured that out sooner lol
@@isengarde9490 The one in Shrek 2...
@@rattyeelyI thought that was Doris?
Edit: they aren’t separate characters. Doris is the stepsister. I’m stupid
The acronyms really nail down for me how lazy they are about being transphobic. They can't even be bothered to type out 6 words.
They can't even be bothered to change the W to a M (or any other identity but they're not smart enough to know about those), because (I'm willing to bet) they don't even know what the acronym stands for.
Someone commented this acronym on one of my videos, and I was confused for like 2 minutes because all of the results from Google were just about a song titled that. If I hadn't scrolled down far enough, I would have just stayed confused why they were recommending some random song.
Ironically, I was also contemplating being nonbinary at that moment, so it just made me laugh at how hard they were trying to be secretly offensive.
Whenever I see that, I can't help but call it "factory-produced transphobia". I'm not sure if that phrase encapsulates what I mean but it's basically what you said. Couldn't even bother to make their own transphobia, so they used store-bought instead.
You're assuming they know 6 whole words. That's a tall order
@@TheWerewolfOfNorway-mf5jz Woman and Man, the only genders they know.
10:30 I remember watching the Harry Potter reunion documentary and when this quote came up, I said: "And then JK was like, JK."
Also she's transphobic so perhaps she's against changing one's name, but she added a random K to her name while she doesn't actually have a second name that starts with a K 😂
@@vocalsunleashed I believe I once heard that the publisher or the agent or whoever proposed using initials because a book written by someone with a name associated with women, in this instance, Joanne, might not sell as well, so that's why she went with JK.
It's giving the same vibes as cheaters who irrationally think their partners are cheating, because when you're doing it, you think others are as well. So someone who thinks that transmen use their new status as male to get ahead and to get out of misogyny and inequality (something she actually spouted), would make sense such a person has this type of thought process.
...and then she went and used "Robert" as a pen name.
@CarinaCoffee
@@vocalsunleashedSince when was she against changing one’s name?
@@SeaBreeze-w9999IDK man, maybe when she went on a rant saying that trans femmes are 'pretending' to be women and trans mascs are either 'confused,' 'being taken advantage of,' or 'trying to escape misogyny to get ahead'? Or when she not only said she would refuse to use a trans individual's preferred identifiers, and went so far as to name individual trans women in her threats in order to direct her transphobic cronies to harrass them?
I used to be a pedant about “they/them” only being for plural because grade school English(!), but I came across a webcomic that had someone making that argument, then referring to a bad driver as “look at the way they’re driving.” And it made me actually stop and think about how often I did use “they” in a singular sense. It was such a silly thing, but it did work as a great teaching moment for me.
Roses are red, violets are blue,
singular "they" predates singular "you".
this might be my favorite comment in a very long time- i was thinking the same thing in a much less funny way,😂😂😂
So what lmao
Suddenly you are all traditionalists and look to the past for justification
But when we say no one thought about gender identity the way it is thought about today, we get "well we have developed since then"
lmao
In my language, there's neither, checkmate
@@saoirse2963what's with you people not understanding how the rejection of a premise works?
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The singular use of they/them predates the singular use of you/your by around 100 years.
So? Nobody use it like that for the last few centuries. And I'm pretty sure it never used to indicate a "non-binary" gender.
@@saoirse2963People who live their lives outside of the gender binary have existed for all of human history. The word “non-binary” may be only 30ish years old, but people who live as neither man or woman have existed for thousands and thousands of years.
@@rosieg6989 I remember hearing some native tribes having people being out the gender binary
@@FannToonsYeah! Like two-spirit
@@stonks3507mhm!!
14:45 actually, it is totally possible to be an intersex person, to be assigned male at birth and starting having period, and the ability to get pregnant at puberty. And it is totally possible for such a person to identify as a woman, a trans woman as she was assigned male at birth.
So, yes, human biology is so diverse that it is not impossible to be a pregnant trans woman. And if this person identifies as a man, as he was assigned at birth, he literally is a cis man who can get pregnant…
Joanne ??? Joanne ??? Are you still with us ?
Maybe she stopped listening to look up the next place to take an advanced biology course /j.
Let me be optimistic.
Do you know an actual case of that? It would be interesting to see, because it's quite unlikely to be AMAB and then be able to be pregnant. Unless, of course, whoever assigned the gender at birth was very drunk or something. But if it's an intersex condition that led to the development of noticeable male genitalia, then I doubt this person could be fertile. Again, if such a case was described, I'd be happy to read. I'm a biologist and sex determination is definitely one of my favorite topics.
@@annaurum8992 not someone that I know personally, but yes there is some exemple of intersex people who have functioning uterus.
I’ve seen an article on BBC Africa (in French), about an intersex person called Lea (for the article), born with ambiguous genome, assigned female at birth. Later at the start of puberty, that person was assigned male by a doctor, due to the evolution of his genitals. And then at 16, he started to menstruate and doctors decided not to remove his uterus because it was functional. And he was gendered male in the article. As link don’t work on UA-cam, I don’t have a lot to help you find this article, and there is no reference of any scientific studies about similar cases. The article was published on 25/11/2020. And yes, you have plenty of intersex people who menstruates, and have a functional uterus, and some of them can look masculine and have been assigned male at birth. And of course they can be of any gender.
So I did extrapolate from that as if he was assigned male at birth, not at puberty.
And I think that is another consequence of sex reassignment operations, or HRT forced on intersex people : we don’t have a lot of examples of intersex people developing naturally. Which is sadly ironic as none of the transphobes who claim falsely that trans children go through surgery before puberty don’t care at all for intersex children who do suffer from such chirurgical operations.
@@samwisegamgee6532 Thank you so much for bringing this up.
I'm an example of an intersex person with a functional uterus. We absolutely exist, have periods, and can get pregnant (although for me, it's a dangerous hormonal nightmare - my fallopian tubes were tied at 18 because of it - I'm just one example, every intersex person is different).
@@annaurum8992 it's not that unlikely. A lot of time a babies sex is determined by "it's a penis if we think it will be big enough to penetrate, otherwise it's a large clitoris".
My elementary school bully saying to me, an egg “YOU LOOK LIKR A GIRL” and me wondering why I liked it
"OH YEAH? WELL... Wait. Please, go on."
Nice, I had people try to "insult" me by saying I was acting like a boy. Other people got offended on my behalf, and even got mad at me for not caring. And the "explanation" of "But doesn't it feel worse to be called a boy?". Nope, they felt about the same. Yeah, I'm non-binary, that should've been a clue, but I didn't even know trans people existed yet.
My theory is that cis people get offended by "cis" because they know it's a prefix, and they also know that “trans” is a prefix, but they think trans people aren't normal (which is wrong), so they think "cis" makes them not normal (wrong).
I’m cis and I don’t claim the cis people who thinks that the word cis is a slur
Not, we just refuse to accept your demented idea of "gender identity" and that "cis women" and "trans women" are two subcategories of women, and the same goes for men.
I was just at this point in the video and was going to comment the same thing, haha. If these people viewed trans people as normal, which they are, then there would be no problem using cis as a prefix.
@@saoirse2963 Demented how, and Wtf does it have to do with y'all pretending "cis" is a slur?
Hey i dont like the prefix cis cuz im a biological woman, a trans woman is not. I would rather say biological women then cis! Thank you for respecting us :) (not a hate comment just so u know)
Even if being trans or queer actually was a choice, why aren’t we allowed to choose???
Probably because sin is a choice? So, "if you don't do as I say you'll go to hell" kind of logic, but applied on something you can't really get because it's internal thinking
This is indeed an excelent point 😂❤ Some people care way too much about other people's lives
Same reason they think sexuality is a choice...
Because they don't "choose to sin" as if an all-powerful all-knowing god could give us free will.
To clarify, omnipotent and omniscient is MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE FROM free will.
It pretty much precludes the existence of a god at this point.
Fun added note. They showed up singular in the 14th century. You (though used longer in polite conversation) did not replace thou/thee as the singular version until the 17th century.
Oh yes, William þe Werewolf
@@killianobrien2007 based thorn user
Using “singular they” for a specific person? Or a generic person?
@@SeaBreeze-w9999it was for a specific person you didn’t know what their gender were.
“I saw my friend Alex in the shop” “oh cool, who are they?”
Really it can be (and always was) both.
@@Ynwell_theslaaneshi “Who are they” i.e. a person you know nothing about
My trans senses tingled and lo and behold - a Jamie upload, 33 seconds ago. Anyway, remember when Harry Potter's message was about "you can be whoever you want to be" or something of the sort?
"It is our choices, Harry, that make us what we truly are, far more than our abilities" - Albus Dumbledore
The Sorting Hat was literally about to sort Harry into Slytherin, but he went with Gryffindor because Harry didn't want to be in Slytherin. If that's not self ID, I don't know what is.
@@LoremIpsum-dp1liyep, and it’s revealed in Order of the Phoenix that the sorting hat also considered putting Hermione in Ravenclaw but she chose Gryffindor.
I think the fandom's stayed true to that and kicked JK herself to the curb.
Unrelated but I love your pfp
I don't understand why people stopped their knowledge about biology at a fifth grade level.
That is like not recognizing all of the words that don't fall under the " I before E, except after C" rule that children start with.
It's bizarre to me.
I've never heard of that rule, though that might be because English is not my first language 😅
@@vocalsunleashed its not a very consistent rule anyway
@@vocalsunleashed Yeah we're taught it when we're younger and learning how to spell longer words but it's essentially abandoned and forgotten about the next year, never to be brought up again because it's *so* inconsistent that it's basically useless as a rule
@@vocalsunleashed I'm sure their are example of a the same form in many languages. It is just one that most English speakers would understand.
@@vocalsunleashed It is a bad rule. My understanding is that there are more words it tells you the wrong thing than there are words where it is correct.
It seems like some people just assume that everyone transitioning is MTF.
It does suck, as someone who's MtF, because i know people will be alot more hateful, but i always love hearing stories from FtM's who ran into transphobes
@@woofie3917 not ftm but non-binary, and yeah, it can be entertainingly stupid. I've been told I'd never be a woman and that I clearly wasn't putting in any effort because anyone could tell from a mile away that I was obviously a man....while on my period. Oh, and not binding while wearing a T-shirt, my chest is unfortunately far away from small. It doesn't matter what I look like to people like this, they will assume I'm a trans woman and nothing can change their mind.
@@waffles3629 I, a mostly cis man, was misgendered sporting a full beard. In hindsight : I think they were trying to get a rise out of me.
But I am *this close* to saying: "use any pronouns to address me."
@@economicprisoner yep, it's pathetic. I don't even care what people like this address me as. Like it's entertaining when they make a fool of themselves, but still stupid.
i don't understand feeling safe in a women's locker room, even if it's all cis women. you're always being judged on your body, or if you glance just a second too long in the vague direction of another woman. i vote no locker rooms for anyone, i'm going home to change.
Or just like, individual changing rooms in locker rooms, that would solve a few things, How hard would it be, to dedicate like a single room for about 10 or more changing rooms
@@woofie3917 yeah. bathrooms already do something like that, and changing rooms in stores.
Yep. I was getting screamed at in locker rooms long before I learned trans people existed, let alone before I figured out I'm trans. Apparently, even in a fitness center, T-shirt plus sweatpants equals man. One person actually got an employee to "get you kicked out". Which didn't work, especially as I was down to my underwear when she got back. She then denied that it was me she was threatening violence towards. Not a single person in the locker room came to my defense, even when a few people were screaming at me with very specific threats. I wasn't even a teenager yet.
I do lots of theater, and most of the time it's just one big shared dressing room for everybody. Nobody cares. I don't know what these people think the problem is going to be.
If you draw a Venn diagram of homophobia and transphobia, it's nearly a single circle.
My local swimming pool has a completely open changing room, men, women, families, disabled, doesn't matter. Everyone is in the same room, there's open showers and cubicle showers. Everyone gets changed in cubicles because that's normal. I don't even understand why people have such a need for separate bathrooms and changing rooms anyway. You enter a bathroom or changing room and enter a cubicle, where you can't be seen by any other human, I genuinely don't under the issue.
I don't get it either like so long as there is a stall who cares?
@sydneylong2322 I know it's wild to me. I go swimming with my family every single week, and never once has anything bad happened in those changing rooms. Are some people really so afraid of washing their hands next to a person who may or may not have the same genitals as them?
@@bambino05 yes, yes they are. I was in a restaurant that just had a row of enclosed private bathrooms right off a semi main hallway. Every room had its own toilet, sink and mirror (about half had changing tables, clearly marked on the doors). There was a Karen throwing an absolute tantrum, *DEMANDING* the manager tell her where the women's bathroom was RIGHT NOW because "my daughter can't share a bathroom with men". Yeah, I don't think her kid was old enough to know the difference between men and whales. The manager had to threaten to call the cops to get her to stop shouting.
@@waffles3629 I wonder if thar Karen has two bathrooms in her home and men have to use a specific one and women the other
@@bambino05 Well, there is a difference how you treat family and how you treat strangers. But Yeah, a bit exaggerated cause the Karen could just go there and stand next to her daughter
I am fine with looking like a mom once I transition; not my mom, we do not have the same body type at all, just a mom.
As a Tumblr post put it: "Skinny white anime girls are not real women, but your mom is. I promise, you look like a real woman."
Honestly, the final factor that precipitated my transition was being unable to picture myself as an old man. Middle-aged women look like moms, and I'm okay with that :)
So, I just watched the documentary about the finding of Richard III's remains, and there was an interesting bit about bone structures where they outright said they couldn't tell by looking at the bones if the skeleton they found was male or female remains.
Because, shock and horror (not really): it's not that simple!
Yeah - in a way it's similar to deciding if someone is M or F based on their height. Yes, someone who is 6'4" is more likely to be M than F, and in modern Western society someone who is 5'1" is more likely to be F than M -- but that's just likelihood, not diagnostic. None of the bone markers are definitive. Here's something - feel for the little bump at the back of your skull. Is it "prominent"? You are likely M. (Note that "Prominent" is a subjective, relative term). That's what most of the bone markers are like.
@@viverra I'm not male but do have that "prominent" bump on the skull. So yeah, bone markers are not definitive.
I don't understand the frustration over they/them either tbh.
I've worked in healthcare for many years and when documenting on accounts or reporting on incidents I always refer to patients as neutrally as possible.
It's not really that hard
Great that you do that, it can mean so much.
My English teacher told me to use "he or she" instead of singular they or pretend to know the gender and just pick one as long as I am being consistent with it in the text in question.
As a non-native that made me very confused at that time and for the longest time I thought singular they was just an Internet thing
No, sounds like your English teacher just wasn’t very accepting or willing to learn.
"pretend to know the gender and just pick one as long as I'm being consistent" WHAT????? Don't do that, don't ever do that. The ONLY time when "pick whatever pronoun you like" is good advice is if you're writing about God (in which case there is never any ambiguity about who you're referring to anyway). Picking a pronoun for someone you don't know is VERY rude.
Use "they" when you don't know the person's gender. The correct declension is "they are" for both singular and plural. If your subject is singular however, the correct reflexive is "themself" not "themselves". Your teacher probably told you "they are a lawyer" is not correct, but actually this is just fine. "They are" is an indicator of formal register here: which is appropriate since you don't know this person. We do the same thing in all persons in English, although the first person use is rarer (it is generally only used when referring to oneself as the representative of a class, as I just did). It's also the convention in French and German, although those languages have less need for it since they can use their articles as pronouns (this is generally regarded as silly in English). The thing that is new, is that some people prefer to be known as "they" even in informal contexts. But, a formal pronoun becoming informal is nothing new in English (that's why we have singular "you": technically the informal singular second person is "thou" but nobody ever says that).
Ugh, a high school English teacher despised singular they so much she would frequently mistakenly mark plural they as wrong (this was over a decade ago, long before trans people were well known). But it was hopeless to bring up to her because she refused to admit she made mistakes. I tried to explain I was talking about a group, but she just got huffy and said something like "If I marked it wrong, it was wrong". So I "corrected" it to "A group of he's and she's went to the library" (or whatever the group was doing), and she told me it was supposed to be they when referencing a group. At which point I pulled out the previous draft and showed it to her, and she refused to answer "Then what's this?", while pointing at her note saying they was wrong.
Well, in academic language, because before they hated the frensh, the British wanted to sound civilised(latin), he/him can be used as a neutral pronoun, probably because it's considered default? But I don't think much people do that
My native language doesn't have gendered pronouns, but I could swear my English teachers also taught to use "she or he" if the person was unknown. That just rolls off the tongue doesn't it. I have probably used singular they instinctively a lot, but when ever I start to overthink referring to a person of unknown gender, I just avoid using any pronouns.
"It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be." This was one of the core themes of her books, but she fails to uphold them in real life. It's like JK Rowling actively disagrees with the message in her OWN books; it's crazy.
It makes me so sad that JK Rowling is transphobic, the same person who helped me through a lot of my childhood hates me
My dad says he wants me ‘in therapy but not a therapy you would like’ and I said
“What kind of therapy”
‘The kind of therapy to convince you to be yourself..’
“Conversion Therapy?”
‘No, not that’
and then he stopped talking..
smh
"the kind of therapy to convince you to be yourself."
So, gender affirming therapy? 😉
If you are trans, being yourself is being the gender you are on the inside, not the one people tell you you are.
Ugh, my parents offered to pay for therapy. Which I might've taken them up on if they were actual therapists, and not religious. Faith counselors are not therapists.
@@Snuzzled yeah but im going to that right now anyways
@@rosieg6989Radical body modification isn’t being yourself
- ‘They’re just throwing anti furry in for good luck’ 😂😂😂
Yeah, Furry Hate has always sort of been a bit of a dog-whistle for anti-LGBTQ tendencies. Furries tend to have more queer representation than most other fanbases (about 75% identify as LGBTQ) and the majority of straight furries are allies. It just seems like Furry Hate is sort of a 'sanitized' queerphobia.
the whole thing about "when they find your bones!" thing makes zero sense to me, and I'm trained as an osteoarchaeologist and forensic archaeologist... One, even in assumed cis individuals, the identification of someone's sex from their bones is not a binary thing either male or female, it's a spectrum and most people fall closer to the middle of the range than the extremes; two, every time it's possible, the identification of the sex of an individual is as much guided by the traits of the remains as it is by the context of the burial, including grave goods, positioning and where possible grave markers! Also, it's meant to broadly categorise the biological sex of someone not their gender or social role, those are totally different and if any hypothesis can be made about those, it's guided by the material evidence found with the individual's burial and what is known of the culture in the area and period that person lived in!
Yes! The whole thing about being instantly able to identify you from bones is ridiculous. All the literature says that it is not an absolute science and much of the identification involves context such as clothing or items found with the skeleton.
@@amylynn3821 yep, movies and TV shows make this so bad. They'll just look at a clothed skeleton from across the room and go "10 year old male" and the kid will have turned out to be 9.75. It's bullshit.
It's just an attempt to verbally harm trans people.
How to fix this "issue": get buried with a trans flag. What about people who are cremated? Do you think with today's technology people aren't buried with their photos or get this, video recordings?????
American here. We do just call the American football a football. What you call football, we call it a soccer ball since the sport itself is called soccer here.
Out of interest, do you have rugby in the states?
@@kaspianepps7946 somewhat, but it's not very popular
In six hundred years when they dig up your bones they'll say oh cool look bones
Hopefully they don't do like Europeans did when they discovered mummies *shudder* (they ate their dust for strength and longevity or something if you didn't know)
In six hundred years when they dig up your bones we'll all be long dead so wgaf?
"Transgenders" is the same as "females" - dehumanizing people by using adjectives as nouns.
Another fun fact about singular they/them: It's actually been in use *longer* than plural they/them!
That’s cool!
the other day some dude (online) refused to believe that i’m a woman (i’m cis) and so he decided to go “maybe ur trans” 💀
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant. It is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are."
- Mewtwo
Mewtwo is a Psychic type for a reason
Unrelated but i love your pfp
@@sugar706 thank you, I made it myself
How you are born determines whether you are a man or woman
@@SeaBreeze-w9999
intersex people would like to know where your brain went
People who understand the difference between gender and sex would like to know where your brain went
A brocken clock is right twice a day
More like a slow clock, which is right once every two years.
A broken clock can only tell you it's time of death.
In this case, the death of their thought process lmao
I misread this as "a broken clock is twice right a day"
I used to this 'cis' sounded like a derogitory term, even though I recognised it wasn't (I'm a cis woman). I listened to Jamie's videos, did some reading, talked to my friend's trans boyfriend, and I got over it! Funny how education can teach us stuff, ey?
my mom is like, SUPER convinced that i, a 17 year old trans guy, would just be prescribed hormones the second i go into a gender clinic hence the ban on lgbtq spaces. we live in california, so maybe, but im not convinced. she says she researches and reads articles on shit like this but her sources are super right wing biased and are probably not all that accurate anyways. this is why i dont read articles unless i know for a fact they are bipartisan or just neutral. my moms a little crazy ehen it comes to trans stuff tho like she told me to wait to get top surgery until im 25 and im NOT waiting that long to get dysphoria relief.
I'm a trans women in Cali. My memory sucks but if I recall correctly, the clinic first had me meet with someone who explained to me what to expect and the risks of transitioning. If you're still a minor a letter from a gender therapist is required as well as a guardians permission to start hrt. Blood test will be done and and other measurements of your health will be taken. Then you can schedule an appointment with a nurse and discuss the starting dosage. I had to talk to like 5 or 6 different people and fill out quite a lot of paperwork before being prescribed anything, which happened over a timespan if months. Maybe my experience will give you an idea of what to expect
@@evelynbrocious thanks. i hate living here but at least we have good gender care
Ugh, condolences on the less than stellar parentage. My parents forbid me from getting a hysterectomy. A hysterectomy I was getting for medical reasons. Hope you get top surgery as soon as you can, I want it too.
@@waffles3629 shes not even a bad parent its just lgbtq shit and neurodivergence...im autistic so she thinks i think im trans BECAUSE im autistic but she didnt even believe me until my therapist who she hated beyond all reason told her im autistic so im just over it atp...
3:36 I can guarantee that trans is censored because they think it's a slur; a way to refer to someone as being inferior. They probably also think cis is slur because it implies the mere existence of trans people (we are very scary, apparently).
12:31 - looks like that 'Homeschool' plan isn't exactly yielding great results for YOU, hun'! 🤣
Also... the Jesus and Drag Queen team-up is just so wholesome. It looks like they're both going "Come right over here and give me a big hug NOW!"
It was apparently meant to be a duel, but the person just can't pose apparently😂
@@golwenlothlindel it looks kinda ai, so maybe that's why it looks like a team up
@@minestar2247 oh haha, maybe.
This is one of my favorite subreddits lmao
Same
Oh my god. At the part you said that many transphobes think there are only trans women, I realised that when I was kid, I hadn't realised that trans goes both ways. For some reason, the phobic society of Greece (where I am from and grew up in), only gives it's negative attention to trans women. And in fact the first term I heard around it was "transvestites" (τραβεστί). As a result, I was thrilled when in my really late teens I learned that FtM trans is a thing too. Before that I felt like a crazy person and that I can only imagine changing a body (There were many times that I imagined I wouldn't mind transitioning, but still, because I've come to the realisation that I'm genderfluid and I still live around family that can't understand LGBTQ+ and frowns upon it, I keep using female pronouns. Only my close friends know and it's very affirming when male pronouns are used occasionally😊)
I think what happens is simply that people don't think of transmen as a threat. After all, if you believe that a transman is a woman and has the physical characteristics of a woman - that is, weaker muscle strength, no penis etc - well this person can't physically overpower another adult, doesn't have the equipment to rape, and so on. On top of that, these machist cultures often also have this widespread idea that if a person with a vagina approaches a person with a penis for sex, that could not possibly be rape, because a man will always want to have sex with a woman when the opportunity presents itself. So again - that trans man is not a threat (as long as we don't allow them to transition, of course).
Trans women are considered a threat for two reasons: a) they may trick a straight cis man into sleeping with them, which would amount to rape of said cis man, and b) they want to be let into women's spaces while being physically capable of raping women just as easily as a cis man would. The underlying idea that makes the concept of "women can't rape men" viable in their minds also makes trans women even more dangerous, because a person with a penis will always choose to have sex when the opportunity presents itself - and being alone with a woman in a bathroom (a place any *decent* man would hesitate to enter) is the perfect opportunity.
Of course, propose to these people the idea that an *ugly* woman may drug them to have sex with them, and all of a sudden the idea of "women can't rape men" is not that obvious... and that's without mentioning there are absolutely cis women in this world who violate minors. But yeah... this is what lies below those cultural norms and behaviors.
Anyway, good on you for figuring yourself out, and I wish you the best.
Lol same for me too (I'm NB raised in Athens in the 90s-00s), and i couldn't understand why it felt so good to use male adjectives or appear masc from time to time XD It's so funny because transphobes think you "become" trans from being exposed to trans "ideology" but the opposite is actually true. You feel it before you even have words to describe it.
The focus on trans women hate is based on misogyny.
@@alphaspearl9728 yep, looking back I can remember things from as young as 6 that were pretty obvious now that I know. I called puberty torture years before I knew trans people existed.
Yep, I also learned that trans women existed first, and my first thought was "Why would anyone want to be a woman? Being a woman sucks". Still didn't figure it out for a few years until I learned about non-binary people. Cause being a girl sucked, but I didn't want to be a boy, so I must just suck at being a girl. Or I'm just not a girl, turns out you don't have to teach yourself that.
I never thought I’d see the day! The j.k Rowling being an ally?
I never thought I'd see it either, Crab Mesiah
I wish she really was an actual ally like me
I had very long hair and after getting that haircut, I felt a draught in my ears. It happens.
Yeah it's kind of crazy just how much you feel in your hair after cropping it short XD Suddenly I have to wear hats to avoid being cold. It's cool though because no more hat hair.
OH MY JK ROWLING BEING AN ALLY?!?!?!?
About time she got shit figured out :)
"A single trans person will never be multiple women, true"
Actually, funnily enough, that's false, too - I thought I was just trans, and then found out I'm a system, so right here is a trans person that's also multiple women (and men, and other gender identities, but I wanted to make the joke)
I had a fortune cookie once tell me “you both will have a great day” and I felt seen
Ah yes - perhaps more of us who are a system (both cis and trans) should jump into these 'debates' with transpohobes - if only to mess with their heads and troll them. 😉
So, instead of a single trans person, you are a whole transatlantic flight?
lmaoooo that's great
you're still not multiple women
I love how they get just so wrapped up in their own little world and hate they end up saying something incredibly based without knowing it
14:40 WOOOO WE DID IT GIRLS
the devs patched in the gender change potion finally, trans women can have kids :3
I love ur pfp
Wow, if only I could try put that new option, too bad my character build isn't really made for that
*terraria day theme*
@@5Rice5Cake5 aww :3 iz a picrew lols, urs is also preti :3 like red hatsune miku?
@@lavenderdasillykitty it’s teto kasane (she’s in the miku franchise :3
It's interesting how you can tell who is transphobic by what language they use
The way they dehumanize us and treat us like an ideology or cult is a dead giveaway.
You can also immediately tell the transphobes by the lack of correct grammar as, you know, because it stems from a lack of education and being unwilling to learn.
Yeah but I'm also talking about when people say, addressing the controversy, that "men who identify as women" are in woman's sport or things simmilar
@@abibano oh s*** yeah.
@@abibano tell you what I automatically report any UA-cam video that drifts into my feed that refers to "gender cult" or "ideology" or cries about women's rights and then refers to gender cult or ideology. I don't see the sport one as much anymore I just see this constant reduction of what we are to some sort of silly ass internet fad like eating Tide pods.
i bought boxers for the first time even though i've been living as male for almost 8 years. someone called me "he" when i asked for help and it made me super happy.
Great... Here are some extra he's - he he he heeeee
Hehehe, also boxers are great
The title had me wheezing because wouldn’t that be the day?!
4:11 Such a great impression because this exactly the kind of verbal gymnastics we see around us.
Always fun to see some accidental allies
sick haircut! that scene from shrek has always been one of my favorite scenes from any movie ever LOL i remember losing my mind when i was younger as "immigrant song" picks up and one of them sics her birds on the badies TToTT
11:43 I f'ing love seeing people trolling transphobes with celebrity photos.
Yeah, it's absolutely hilarious seeing them fail so badly in being transphobic
A tad off-topic, but I just wanted to thank you Jamie. Your appearance and mannerisms remind me so much of my older brother, and that's originally what caused me to start stepping away from transphobia, because you were so much like him that of course you were a man. Years later, I realized that I'm trans, and my brother is very transphobic. Just this morning that came to a head and he doesn't want me around his family despite him coming to visit the rest of the family. He won't budge on his beliefs, and I won't compromise on my identity, and our parents, through their inaction and enabling, are ultimately siding with him, even though they would rather we all get along.
So thank you Jamie for showing me what my brother could've been like in another life.
I say lumow ironically. Also trans phobes getting trans people's gender wrong and validating it is just 👌👌👌
"being LGBT+ is a choice" honestly the only CHOICE in the matter, is wether or not we want to come out yet.
as a nobody, I can confirm I did not choose my gender
thank you for saying that stuff about the history of singular they. i’m nonbinary and my english teacher (who LOVES shakespeare) has both said it’s incorrect and she’s called me “problematic” for wanting her to call me my chosen name in school but not when talking to my parents. ❤
edit: 4 hours later and i’ve just been outed to my whole family. watching jaime videos to calm down.
I, Internet Uncle-Gay🏳️🌈, say that You. Are. _Valid._ and I hope you are safe.
And if you have to lie to your family to stay safe, do it. Pretend to not be you, while keeping your TrueSelf hidden, secret, and safe. It's sad when someone needs to do that, but we queerfolk have been doing just that for decades - and then we leave home, find our Logical Family, and never again speak to our bioillogical family. I've known many people who've had to do this. I hope you don't have to, but if you do, know that you're not alone.
Hoping you're safe, and feeling okay. Please accept some mama hugs.
💛🤍💜🖤
Hey, I know it’s been three months, but I hope you’re doing okay!
Jamie! Thank you so much for everything. You've helped me so much without even realizing it. You've shown me there's other trans youth like myself who can relate to what i'm going through. You've shown me lovely communities of reddit and other socials where i can be myself. I'm slowly coming out to people around me and you've been helping me with tips and things that i would've never realized. Thank you so so much. You're the trans dad i've always wanted to have as a son, love you 💜💜
25:48 yeah, we call American footballs just footballs, and we call the round black and white ones soccer balls
the whole “cis slur” thing is so annoying not only because cis has NEVER been a slur, but because cisgender was a term created to categorize people who identify with their gender assigned at birth so that said people aren’t just assumed as “the default” while trans people are othered. Refusing to use cisgender to refer to someone who is/insisting that cis others cisgender people does nothing but obfuscate the harm trans people have faced from being othered in so many ways that it seeps into our very language. As a queer person, sometimes labels annoy me, but the trans vs cis label is *so important* because if trans people are trans and cis people are cis, then there isn’t a dynamic created where trans people are officially outsiders and cis people just get to be “normal” people or the only “real” people. People who think trans people are monsters are the most monstrous people on this planet I swear
I'm extremely confident that is _exactly_ why those sorts of people hate the prefix. They want to be the assumed default from which all deviation occurs. Quite a large number of them seem incapable of even wrapping their heads around the idea that there is no default. To them, it can only be an attempt to usurp their rightful place in the hierarchy.
Big "don't call us heterosexual; we're NORMAL" energy from the "cis is a slur" crowd. It's literally the Latin opposite of the Latin prefix "trans".
Most of the complaints I have seen, they either don't like the sound of it (eww, sounds like they're calling us cisterns or sissies), or they are ignorant, or bad-faith arguers who are being combative just to "own the libs".
transphobes thinking trans men are "trans women" and vice versa will never cease to amaze me. WHY WOULD WE CALL OURSELVES THE GENDER WE DO NOT WANT TO BE CALLED?
Gotta also address the attempts to stigmatize "cis". The purpose for it is quite insidious. They're NOT really offended by it, but by painting it as a slur, they're attempting to take away a descriptor that implies that trans men are men and trans women are women. They're not stopping at the specific word "cis". They're taking it to "I'm just a woman" or "I'm a REAL woman". They're trying to liming woman/man to ONLY refer to cis women/men and block trans women/men from calling themselves "men" or "women". They want the language to be "Trans women" and "women" not "Trans women" and "cis ( Or any other prefix to distinguish them from trans women ) women".
Labeling "cis" as a "slur" not only attempts to stigmatize the term, but it also is an attempt to paint us "kooky lefties" as hypocrites for using slurs.
100% this ^. They're not actually offended by it. "Cis" is the same as "white" or "straight," and you never see them complaining about that.
Trying to remove features of language to reduce ability to describe concepts precisely for the sake of a political agenda.
Double plus ungood.
20:34 Likely not drawn but AI art lmao, the birds in the back are animorphing into an airplane
theyre turning the damn birds trans!!!!!!!!!!11
lol I wouldn't expect them to actually make the artwork manually. Of course it was AI 😂
I still think it's probably AI, but "it's a bird! It's a plane!" is a quote from Superman. I don't know much about Superman, but I know that quote.
That quote by she-who-must-not-be-named actually made me laugh out loud. The irony of it
So, just to be clear, you're refusing to use someone's preferred name?
@@martind2520if JKR wants to be respected that well, he must respect others.
@@katyamcadams If you don't apply your moral values to the people you don't like then they aren't moral values at all, just privileges you give to the people you like.
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@@RandomGal_ Being a billionaire doesn't mean you have stopped being human.
i love necronymifying twitter
i also love the word "necronym" (synonymous with "deadname"), it sounds so cool and i can't wait for an opportunity to use it irl
This is what i needed today!
jk rowling is an ally? i never thought i'd see the day!!
To anyone who can READ!
I used to think I was unique in having a lot of problems with how I feel about gender. And the more trans issues enter the mainstream, the more I realize EVERYONE, especially cis people, have a lot of problems with how they feel about gender. 🤣🤣🤣
jk rowling really wrote a character saying "sometimes I think we sort too soon" in 2007 and still thinks her transphobia is correct
I remember when my teacher shown us an educational video on how some people get marginalised in society like overweight, with mental or physical disorders, of colorr or lgbtq+. Back then I was just a kid in a catholic school and I remember hearing some girls say: ooh I get it but did you see that? One of them was GAY! (as if that was a forbidden word) and that's when I first realised what homophobia is. My little brain was like: Wasn't the point that... All those people were normal just like us? Do you seriously look at all marginalised groups and say "God loves you" turn to lgbtq+ and totally forget about it?
Yeah... BTW the same girl then relised she likes girls lol
I learned about cis interaction (biology) “cis interaction often refers to cell-intrinsic interactions of two membrane proteins, while a trans interaction refers to binding between two proteins from different cells” and I wonder if this is the origin of the prefix “cis” used in gender context.
Either way I giggled when I get it in my biology textbook
you are correct. The term cisgender was coined by Dana Defosse, who was a graduate student at the time, in 1994. she has said that they chose to use the prefix cis because it was already used in the scientific field.
Dana has an article on Huff Post about why she created the term and how it's evolved.
Bonus for anyone who reads this reply:
The prefix cis is Latin in origin meaning _on this side of_.
@@kw-os3kw 🌟 Heck yeah, thank you for giving historic context about Dana Defosse. Honestly made my day.
@@kw-os3kwcis and trans is latin
hetero and homo are greek
@@babs_babs damn don't know how i screwed that up, thanks for correcting me.
@@m.a.w. I'm just glad I now have gotten to share that information with someone else who finds it interesting.
I'm trans masculine, and have gotten quietly ghosted when I tried to get top surgery. Got as far as the consultation with the surgeon, taking pictures, the in person examination of the site, description of the procedure... and then just.... *never* gave me an appointment. And somehow was Out every time I called across an entire week to try and ask about it.
I'm a 32 DDD at minimum, the main reason for this surgery was my chronic back pain. She did not know I wasn't cis until I mentioned it as an additional perk to the procedure, and how excited I was to look more how I wanted AND not be in as much pain anymore.
I have no proof that's why I was ghosted. Just a terrible feeling of dread that if I hadn't trusted that woman with who I was, my life would be materially better right now.
Every time I reckon with that feeling, I also reckon with the thought that Not Being Here would be so much easier. Cue the angry crying.
I think I mostly still exist out of spite at this moment.
Sorry for what you're going through. Huge breasts do cause back pain,trans masc or cis woman...
I just want to make sure that you know that you're valid and loved. If possible, I'd see if you could change surgeons, and report the ghosting, as that's highly unprofessional. Please accept some hugs from this random internet mama, and don't give up!
💙💗🤍💗💙
I've used that very same google screenshot about the singular they/them usage, and I was told that I shouldn't obey some "arbitrary authority" on language, and just use he or she.
You know, the OED being the "arbitrary authority" on language that I should not obey. I never found out what authority this person thought I should be following.
transphobes are lingusitic prescriptivists, 3000%, their imposing a definition of man/women no one uses, and then redefining how pronouns and grammar work from how they actually do, due to arbitrary authoritarian standards based on your precious arbitrary gender norms being threatened, that were intentionally designed to exclude a specific group of men/women they dont like..
I love how so many Accidental Allies hear or see the word "transgender" and *immediately* assume male to female (especially if they see a picture of an openly trans man with a beard and respond with *"He's not even attempting to look like a woman.")* Some also think "trans woman" means female to male & "trans man" means male to female.
One can choose NOT to be petty and cruel.
I adore June journeys, literally watching this whilst playing it I love itttt
3:11 Make sure you differentiate people with XXY, people with chimera chromosomes, with mosaic chromosomes, and people who have XY but due to androgen sensitivity stuff develop extremely as a cis woman.
So my theory as to why the term cis causes such a response is because it removes the assumption of a default or "normal" state of being. From a transphobe's perspective, there's men and women or trans men and trans women with the prefix denoting the "anomaly", othering the trans community from everyone else. However, once you start using cis as well, that "default status" no longer applies because the prefix is simply another descriptor, like hair colour, and so people feel threatened by a perceived loss of status. Also, I just got incredibly strong deja vu so apologies if I've said this here before already.
Yep. Like they view being trans as a sickness, but that'd be like claiming healthy is a slur "because there's sick and normal".
the only trans story ive heard of someone being harmed in the women's restroom was Nex. and they were forced to be in there and murdered by girls. but none of the transphobes cared about that.
She was not forced to be there and she was not murdered. She started a fight and later in she OD. Stop making martyrs out of people.
@@saoirse2963 You're the one harassing a dead person. That is a classic way martyrs are born.
Also you're keeping it classy with that racist rhetoric.
@@saoirse2963 THEY were forced to use the girls restroom because there were no gender neutral bathrooms and no teacher would allow them to use the staff restroom. They were being bullied and tried to get them to stop by SPLASHING WATER ON THE GIRLS. and in return the girls BEAT THEM in the bathroom. the school brushed it off and tried to hide it. they died the next day. even if they did OD, i would still say the girls had a part in it for literally beating them in the bathroom. bullying does lead to suicides in many cases and i believe said bullies are responsible. but you do not know they ODed. but the girls did beat them up for trying to stand up to them by SPLASHING WATER ON THEM.
if you believe the girls were justified in beating another child up because they splashed water on them, i dont know what is wrong with you.
@@goodpeople25Harassing a dead person? That doesn’t even make sense. And where’s the racism?
@@SeaBreeze-w9999 You been living under a rock to not know the context of claiming easily prevented deaths of a minority don't matter cause it was an OD?
transphobes confusing trans-women with trans-men and vice versa will never not be funny
Whenever I hear someone complain about they/them being used in the singular, I go "Oh look, someone left THEIR keys, hopefully THEY come back soon" (or something like that). I always get eye rolls, but it amuses me and hopefully it'll eventually help them learn.
@@YarrowTV Please go ahead and use it, hopefully it works on at least one person. And share your own if you want, I'd love to switch every so often, just to keep it fresh for me lol.
@@YarrowTV I love all of those and I'll had them to my repertoire. I'll admit that I don't take the time to set up the premise, I'll just pull out my keys and say the thing. I know it's kind of immature, but my point is initially to shut them up and, secondarily, hopefully make them think (I'm a bit impatient these days lol)
Every single person who has _"explained"_ to me why they can't use singular they/them had used singular they/them in their explanation. Including online when they are typing.
Using it for a generic person is less confusing than the new expectation of using it for specific people.
@@SeaBreeze-w9999 Maybe, and slip ups might happen, but you should still accept it when people tell you their pronouns are they/them and make every effort possible to use said pronouns when referring to them.
this is the first time ive seen a video of yours! i love your energyy thanks for joining my notification horde :)) amazing video
Welcome to this wholesome bubble of internet! ❤
Why don’t we just make bathrooms and locker rooms gender-neutral?
Because most women and teenage girls feel safer and more comfortable in a single-sex bathrooms and locker rooms. What about public showers and dressing rooms, by the way? Do you want them to be gender-neutral as well?
@@saoirse2963That depends on society.
You're just recycling USian responses to the US gun problem.
yeah we should, but that doesn't excuse transphobia either way.
Because lots of people don’t feel comfortable with that & it would enable male voyeurs to spy on women & girls
@@SeaBreeze-w9999 Again, that just means you are a misogynist. Plenty of places get on just fine.
I love when people have to say that they are not emotional, or say you’re the triggered one. In one breath. While saying that you’re the one with lgbt+ being all about your personality. When we live in their head, rent free. So they have to project their own emotionally reactive bigotry as their personality 24/7 when no one asked them to say anything!
It’s especially telling when Elon Musk, of all people. Has to tell you to chill out about it XD
Yep, like transphobes think about trans people more than trans people think about trans people.
American here; they're called footballs, unless they state their preferred sport is soccer.
“You’re either trans or cis, there’s no inbetween”
I’m bigender so I’d argue that I am the inbetween…
No no. They were saying specifically that Nobody can't choose their gender. Everyone else can, but people called Nobody are screwed.
An enby named Nobody Williams looks at their laptop and rolls their eyes.
@@Montesama314must have had Kingdom Heart fans as parents
Finding bones won't do much. When they found the burial of a Viking warrior, they assumed it was a man. Took over two decades for other researchers to discover warrior had been a woman. Assumptions will play a bigger part than any analysis.
23:24 The accidental ally is in the statement that the only trans option is MTF or FTM, implying not transitioning isn't a valid option.
People not wanting to be called cis is so strange to me. It's like what do you want us to call you, homogender? I'm sure they'd love that
JK Rowling as an ally? Is it opposite day!?
Yes, feminist philanthropist author BAD!
Nothing BAD about being a feminist, an author or a philanthropist. An ally,she sadly is not. I'm sorry you were confused by opposite day 😮
@@unowen-nh9ov "feminist" "philanthropist" author.