I have also purchased many titles on-line from Octave Record (I'm very bummed they don't do vinyl anymore), but when you purchase DSD versions I think Octave Records should include a 192k 24-bit resolution PCM version. Main reason for me is that although the DSD versions sound wonderful on my home system, I can't use DSD files in my car or on other portable devices and licensing Weiss Saracon's DSD conversation software at ~$2,100 is a little out of my budget.
Phenomenal job, Paul and the PS Audio staff. I am impressed with your recordings at Octave records. I'm a newbie to the game of HiFi but have been a music enthusiast all my life. I brought my first stereo system in Germany from my local military Post Exchange back in the 80's. I can enjoy music like I can enjoy a bottle of whiskey or fine champagne. Sometimes we like the pinky out and other times we cowboy it straight from the bottle. Or we find ourselves somewhere comfortable in between.... LOL!!!!
Hello Paul; I'm a technically challenged "boomer" and am suspicious of "the net". I have a decent analogue system, like the sound of LP's and buy them when available. I also have a Nakamichi cassette deck. Can't affoed the latest DSP DAC's. Just ordered your 99% to "tweak" my system. I like physical format. I have 50 yr. old records. I "think" I am helping support the artists. Thanks for the level headed advice.
Whot? The "99% True" book is NOT for tweaking the system.. That is stories from Pauls life. The books for tweaking the system are the Stereo and Loudspeaker books.
Paul: I am confused. I bought two early albums and the download had DSD128 and all the the PCM version from 192 downwards. Has there been a policy change?
Hi Marc, when I tried to add Octave radio on Roon it didn't work , any chance you could confirm exactly what you did please - I've obviously messed up somewhere !
@1:40 "It is a bit of a nightmare from a web site programming standpoint." Paul, you are too trusting of some of your inner circle staff. They must see that computers are not your forte, and give you BS excuses. If they tried that with audio, you would know -- so they don't. But with computers? They see that they can. @2:11 "...and the program for that is really difficult." No, it is anything but difficult. It is somewhat simplistic, as programming goes. You either have programmers that barely qualify for that title, or they have some reason for not wanting to write the simple code. Are they the same employees that told you that your computer is straining to deal with DSD's data load? Because that is more nonsense (well, it could be true if you have a Walmart PC or most mass produced consumer PCs). Paul, there are loads of speakers that struggle to do half of what your FR10s can do. Yet, you have such speakers, and even better speaker. You would not accept "It is too difficult" when it comes to your speaker line, or any of your audio gear. Yet, you accept the nonsense being given to you by someone on your staff, when it comes to computer related topics. And I assure you that the lines of code for web purchases are not like designing your audio gear. The lines of code would take a skilled programmer less than 10 minutes to write (maybe less than 3 minutes). Perhaps you purchased a standard storefront from a web service? Yes, that could make it difficult to add custom code, due to red tape -- but not due to the complexity of the code. I understand that since computers are not your area of expertise, you are not able to identify the BS they are feeding you. 1) It is simplistic to write the code for your web site to include lower versions when purchasing a higher version. 2) There are computers available that would yawn at the DSD load you would throw at it. Lastly, @3:57 "Hey Alexa": Alexa is a microphone, modem, and very basic computer. If you have Alexa set up to respond to "Hey Alexa", it means that that computer is listening to 100% of every sound in your home (in listening distance). But Alexa is too low end of a computer to be able to understand more than "Hey Alexa" (and I suspect that Alexa does not even understand "Hey Alexa"). That means that Alexa uses its built-in modem, that connects to your home's internet router, to send your request to one of thousands of powerful Amazon computers. It is Amazon's computers that convert your spoken words into text, research your request, and then respond by sending Alexa an mp3 file (or something similar) and Alexa plays that file, and that is what you hear. Turn off your internet service, and Alexa becomes a brick. Alexa will not be able to answer how much is 1+1. Since 100% of your requests get sent to Amazon for processing, Amazon can record 100% of your home's sounds. Every word spoken can be recorded by Amazon. Even if they do not save the actual audio, they can save a transcript of every word spoken Anyone that understands that they have a microphone in their home, sending everything they say to complete strangers, is inexplicable to me.
The problem is that the native format isn't available. The original recording is done in DSD 256 multitrack but is converted to 32 bit 384 kHz PCM for editing. It is then converted to the various other formats after being mixed including conversion back to various forms of DSD.
Make the DSD release the only one that includes all formats just so the option exists to get all file formats at once if doing the right thing with your webstore is too challenging. This is file delivery, not physical product delivery. Always offer the option, charge more if you want. Don't take a compromised route please.
The bad part is Octave stopped offering Red Book CD's. Still don't understand this. CD's are still big and if you can't make use of the SACD then it's not cost effective. Not everyone wants downloads.
It can be a mess.. The “you shoulds” always have an opinion about everything most often based on zero knowledge of the situation….I generally don’t listen to the “You Shoulds”…
Not really true.. It is easy to fix this.. My experience buying digital downloads is that if you buy the lower quality file you can upgrade to a better quality for a lower price and then have both. But if you already paid for the higher quality file you also get the lower quality file of you want it.. And it is not that hard to do if you have the files avaliable on the server anyway.. So this is no issue fixing at all if you actually wanted. And why TuneIn? There are many many other alternatives to use that is definently better than TuneIn..
I use to use TuneIn, stopped using it. A lot of the radio stations I use to listen to Globally became not available. Bye Bye TuneIn I deleted it permanently..👍 Using Google’s search, I can find stations Globally myself without TuneIn. 👍😎 When it comes to music, I am a Globetrotter, Countries and Languages. 👍🤗😎 ❤Using UA-cam search, I can find music uploads Globally. I can download UA-cam music on my phone 👍😎
UA-cam music sucks compared to lossless dude... It can also often be worse than Spotify. And yeah.. Lile with Spotify etc you can "download" it but not as a file you actually can copy to another device or burn to a CD etc.. And if youtube or whatever removes the file from their servers it's gone from your "downloads" too so.
@@Oystein87 I ❤️crappy music, the crappier it is the better I like it, it’s my personal favorite type of music to listen to..❤️😎😎🤗 👍 Thank’s for calling me a “Dude”👍 Most people call me an idiot, moron, stupid, brainless, retarded,clueless, Ignorant. Sometimes all of the above in one long sentence..😀😀😀😀👍🤗
@@davidfromamerica1871 Uhm.... Nobody loves crappy music quality. And nobody likes music they say is crappy.. Makes no sense at all and is the total oposite of logic. Seems like you are just trolling
@@Oystein87 “Trolling” is a good one I forgot to add. Thank’s 😀👍😎🤗 I have to leave you now to get back to listening to my crappy UA-cam music..😀👍 ua-cam.com/video/giXBV3z1ymU/v-deo.html
@@davidfromamerica1871 Well.. You kinda just proved my point about the trolling but ok.. The point is that if you like it it is not crap even if people around you don't like it... Nobody sits down and seriously listens to music they think is crap..
Just forget TuneIn Paul it's a nightmare app. From the point of view of listeners in the UK we can't access ANY radio station that is outside the UK borders unless we use a VPN because it's geo restricted. Not a problem with other radio apps but TuneIn is a no no. Not only that but the sound is crap too, compared with the station's website, the audio is attenuated and lacks punch in the bass. TuneIn is way way overrated and whereas it used to be my go to radio app, now it's deleted and I don't miss it one little bit, it's useless for world wide radio the other side of the pond. At $300 to $400 dollars a month's it's a rip off, they have the impression that everyone loves TuneIn and no one listens to other radio apps when in fact I don't know anyone that uses TuneIn now, not just because of the geo restrictions but because the sound is crap too. I'm now going to head over to Octave Radio and take a listen, thanks for the heads up Paul 👍
I have also purchased many titles on-line from Octave Record (I'm very bummed they don't do vinyl anymore), but when you purchase DSD versions I think Octave Records should include a 192k 24-bit resolution PCM version. Main reason for me is that although the DSD versions sound wonderful on my home system, I can't use DSD files in my car or on other portable devices and licensing Weiss Saracon's DSD conversation software at ~$2,100 is a little out of my budget.
Not sure why my replies to you are getting blocked, see my response further above! Cheers!
Actually - from a progammers point this should NOT be too difficult ; just to a conditional filter after the highest resolution has been selected 🙂🙂
I've now added Octave radio to Audials on my phone, it sounds really great streaming to my car's head unit.
Phenomenal job, Paul and the PS Audio staff. I am impressed with your recordings at Octave records. I'm a newbie to the game of HiFi but have been a music enthusiast all my life. I brought my first stereo system in Germany from my local military Post Exchange back in the 80's. I can enjoy music like I can enjoy a bottle of whiskey or fine champagne. Sometimes we like the pinky out and other times we cowboy it straight from the bottle. Or we find ourselves somewhere comfortable in between.... LOL!!!!
I'd like to see this option but only for vinyl purchases. Maybe this would limit the website challenges. Thanks for the great recordings!
When can we see and hear Octave videos? The combination of visual and hi fidelity could be emotional.
I had the same question - but for SACD purchase. Actually emailed sales asking if downloadable version is available for me but never got answer....
The only problem is, I want to buy the sacd's from octave but the shipping to the uk is too expensive, it makes the disc double the price😢
Hello Paul; I'm a technically challenged "boomer" and am suspicious of "the net". I have a decent analogue system, like the sound of LP's and buy them when available. I also have a Nakamichi cassette deck. Can't affoed the latest DSP DAC's. Just ordered your 99% to "tweak" my system. I like physical format. I have 50 yr. old records. I "think" I am helping support the artists. Thanks for the level headed advice.
Nakamichi 👍😎🤗❤️ Keep it, don’t get rid of it. They made some great audio gear including old school car stereo head units 👍😎🤗❤️
Whot? The "99% True" book is NOT for tweaking the system.. That is stories from Pauls life.
The books for tweaking the system are the Stereo and Loudspeaker books.
Yes but what about vinyl? Do you offer the download with the vinyl? As you have said Paul it's the best format to listen octave records
Paul: I am confused. I bought two early albums and the download had DSD128 and all the the PCM version from 192 downwards. Has there been a policy change?
I listen to Octave Radio on ROON. Great station!
Thanks, Marc!
Hi Marc, when I tried to add Octave radio on Roon it didn't work , any chance you could confirm exactly what you did please - I've obviously messed up somewhere !
@@RICHARDPOOLE17 i just found it by using the geographic search-Colorado.
@1:40 "It is a bit of a nightmare from a web site programming standpoint."
Paul, you are too trusting of some of your inner circle staff. They must see that computers are not your forte, and give you BS excuses.
If they tried that with audio, you would know -- so they don't. But with computers? They see that they can.
@2:11 "...and the program for that is really difficult."
No, it is anything but difficult. It is somewhat simplistic, as programming goes.
You either have programmers that barely qualify for that title, or they have some reason for not wanting to write the simple code.
Are they the same employees that told you that your computer is straining to deal with DSD's data load? Because that is more nonsense (well, it could be true if you have a Walmart PC or most mass produced consumer PCs).
Paul, there are loads of speakers that struggle to do half of what your FR10s can do. Yet, you have such speakers, and even better speaker.
You would not accept "It is too difficult" when it comes to your speaker line, or any of your audio gear.
Yet, you accept the nonsense being given to you by someone on your staff, when it comes to computer related topics. And I assure you that the lines of code for web purchases are not like designing your audio gear. The lines of code would take a skilled programmer less than 10 minutes to write (maybe less than 3 minutes).
Perhaps you purchased a standard storefront from a web service? Yes, that could make it difficult to add custom code, due to red tape -- but not due to the complexity of the code.
I understand that since computers are not your area of expertise, you are not able to identify the BS they are feeding you.
1) It is simplistic to write the code for your web site to include lower versions when purchasing a higher version.
2) There are computers available that would yawn at the DSD load you would throw at it.
Lastly, @3:57 "Hey Alexa":
Alexa is a microphone, modem, and very basic computer.
If you have Alexa set up to respond to "Hey Alexa", it means that that computer is listening to 100% of every sound in your home (in listening distance).
But Alexa is too low end of a computer to be able to understand more than "Hey Alexa" (and I suspect that Alexa does not even understand "Hey Alexa"). That means that Alexa uses its built-in modem, that connects to your home's internet router, to send your request to one of thousands of powerful Amazon computers.
It is Amazon's computers that convert your spoken words into text, research your request, and then respond by sending Alexa an mp3 file (or something similar) and Alexa plays that file, and that is what you hear.
Turn off your internet service, and Alexa becomes a brick. Alexa will not be able to answer how much is 1+1.
Since 100% of your requests get sent to Amazon for processing, Amazon can record 100% of your home's sounds. Every word spoken can be recorded by Amazon. Even if they do not save the actual audio, they can save a transcript of every word spoken
Anyone that understands that they have a microphone in their home, sending everything they say to complete strangers, is inexplicable to me.
Recommend buying the native file format and make one's own conversions if needed.
The problem is that the native format isn't available.
The original recording is done in DSD 256 multitrack but is converted to 32 bit 384 kHz PCM for editing.
It is then converted to the various other formats after being mixed including conversion back to various forms of DSD.
Could you share a url of Octave Radio?
octaverecords.out.airtime.pro/octaverecords_a
Don;t know your sites backend. But could you offer packages? Buy the DSD and get PCM for a few bucks more? Just to cover handling costs.
Make the DSD release the only one that includes all formats just so the option exists to get all file formats at once if doing the right thing with your webstore is too challenging. This is file delivery, not physical product delivery. Always offer the option, charge more if you want. Don't take a compromised route please.
The bad part is Octave stopped offering Red Book CD's. Still don't understand this. CD's are still big and if you can't make use of the SACD then it's not cost effective. Not everyone wants downloads.
As far as I have seen the radio is playing MP3..
Yeah, Octave Radio is streaming MP3 at a paltry 192kbps.
Nevertheless, it sounds pretty good! A good recorded high bit rate mp3, will sound better than a poorly recoded flack or DSD.
🙂👍
It can be a mess.. The “you shoulds” always have an opinion about everything most often based on zero knowledge of the situation….I generally don’t listen to the “You Shoulds”…
Not that difficult to create it where any purchase made will automatically include all lower resolutions.
Not really true.. It is easy to fix this.. My experience buying digital downloads is that if you buy the lower quality file you can upgrade to a better quality for a lower price and then have both. But if you already paid for the higher quality file you also get the lower quality file of you want it..
And it is not that hard to do if you have the files avaliable on the server anyway.. So this is no issue fixing at all if you actually wanted.
And why TuneIn? There are many many other alternatives to use that is definently better than TuneIn..
I use to use TuneIn, stopped using it. A lot of the radio stations I use to listen to Globally became not available. Bye Bye TuneIn I deleted it permanently..👍
Using Google’s search, I can find stations Globally myself without TuneIn. 👍😎
When it comes to music, I am a Globetrotter, Countries and Languages. 👍🤗😎 ❤Using UA-cam search, I can find music uploads Globally. I can download UA-cam music on my phone 👍😎
UA-cam music sucks compared to lossless dude... It can also often be worse than Spotify.
And yeah.. Lile with Spotify etc you can "download" it but not as a file you actually can copy to another device or burn to a CD etc.. And if youtube or whatever removes the file from their servers it's gone from your "downloads" too so.
@@Oystein87
I ❤️crappy music, the crappier it is the better I like it, it’s my personal favorite type of music to listen to..❤️😎😎🤗 👍 Thank’s for calling me a “Dude”👍
Most people call me an idiot, moron, stupid, brainless, retarded,clueless,
Ignorant. Sometimes all of the above in one long sentence..😀😀😀😀👍🤗
@@davidfromamerica1871 Uhm.... Nobody loves crappy music quality. And nobody likes music they say is crappy.. Makes no sense at all and is the total oposite of logic.
Seems like you are just trolling
@@Oystein87
“Trolling” is a good one I forgot to add.
Thank’s 😀👍😎🤗
I have to leave you now to get back to listening to my crappy UA-cam music..😀👍
ua-cam.com/video/giXBV3z1ymU/v-deo.html
@@davidfromamerica1871 Well.. You kinda just proved my point about the trolling but ok..
The point is that if you like it it is not crap even if people around you don't like it... Nobody sits down and seriously listens to music they think is crap..
It's not the truth for me. I have many many many great recordings and they're not all on the Octive label.
Off course there are also orhers that make just as good quality recordings just as Paul has said many times. But there are in general rare to find.
Just forget TuneIn Paul it's a nightmare app. From the point of view of listeners in the UK we can't access ANY radio station that is outside the UK borders unless we use a VPN because it's geo restricted. Not a problem with other radio apps but TuneIn is a no no. Not only that but the sound is crap too, compared with the station's website, the audio is attenuated and lacks punch in the bass. TuneIn is way way overrated and whereas it used to be my go to radio app, now it's deleted and I don't miss it one little bit, it's useless for world wide radio the other side of the pond. At $300 to $400 dollars a month's it's a rip off, they have the impression that everyone loves TuneIn and no one listens to other radio apps when in fact I don't know anyone that uses TuneIn now, not just because of the geo restrictions but because the sound is crap too. I'm now going to head over to Octave Radio and take a listen, thanks for the heads up Paul 👍
No. It ruins your favorite music and you start listening to music that only sounds good.
Bingo, we have a winner 👆🏆 That is why such systems are a gross waste of money. 😎
WRONG😂😂
@@davidfromamerica1871Wrong again
Either Paul is lying or he got the worst web developer I heard of in a long time.
Hi Paul, I think i know a simple way to achieve this without the need for programming. I’ll drop you an email if you’re interested.