Notice the bass playing speeds up just slightly when the drums come in. It's apart of playing with a band and why quantized midi music will never compare.
Notice the tempo speed up around 3:50 - it really has the sense of driving through the song right to the end. For whatever reason, modern day producers see this as an “error”, not a meaningful addition to a piece of music. Perhaps it was a means to cut costs, because it’s simpler to use drum machines and quantize lines to reduce the need for studio time and experienced musicians, but I don’t know.
Quantization and gridlines in DAW's completely kill the human element of music. That's why bands from the 20th century are so much more relatable and emotional than most bands that have come out in the last 20 years. People rely on click tracks too much these days, any tempo change or slight deviation in BPM is seen as a mistake and not a fundamental feature of the song. Also people think too hard about compression and EQ adjustments and a bunch of editing crap that only waters down the music. When bands like zeppelin, rush, and sabbath were breaking down genre boundaries and pushing the limits of what music can be, do you think they were worried about what their guitar tone sounded like? No, they were recording using tape so they didn't have any quick or easy way to edit songs. What they played was what you heard, period, no embellishments or alterations. Just raw and honest music. When you listen to those classic records, it feels like real human beings are in the room with you playing real instruments. Unlike modern rock that sounds like it was automatically generated by an algorithm on a computer
This is the song that made me wanna play bass back in 1974! WOW - If I had this track back then it would have blown my mind - such an excellent groove - superb!
Not until now did I realize JPJ was tapping on his bass strings. It almost sounds like a tape echo on his bass during the middle break, but I think its just him tapping at different velocities and creating that dynamic.
What a great photo! Jonesy with his fender jazz bass… Bonham going ham on the drums… Page sitting back in the shadows with his dragon telecaster 🐉 …and on the right edge of the frame, Robert’s blond locks…
+GeorgeMeetsFritzTV Steve Harris uses flats too. They have a higher tension and let you play faster. They also can be positioned much closer to the fretboard making for a unique tone. He basically bounces the strings off the frets
You can hear JPJ tapping his strings during the middle bit... And playing some other phrases here and there!!! Thanks for posting this!!! (Endless vow of respect to JPJ and Led Zeppelin)
I love rock n roll, but I don't have good ears, so sometimes I can't easily distinguish the bass line in some songs. That's why I started to search for isolated bass tracks, and it's just so magnificent!! Very underrated instrument unfortunately!
He was great with a plectrum on this track- doubling the E and D with fretted and open strings as he plucked the main riff. Sounds like flats on the ‘62 Jazz Bass. Interesting to hear the random pickings he does during Jimmy’s theramin bit. The surfacing of this isolated track explains to me what I was hearing for all these years but couldn’t clearly identify.
He's also playing two strings at the same time, fretting to double some of the notes, then octaving others further up on the fretboard, adding fundamental tension to the notes. That's what gives the bass its thick sound. Also, this is the raw track, before equalization.
wow I didnt know he was doing all those thumping noises during the middle/theramin section... (hes literally muting the strings while tapping his fingers over the pickups) for some reason I didnt think Page would given him such freedom/leeway to mess around like that. Interesting....
Jones was probably the only person in the band that could do that live and in the studio and page wasn't on his about it. It's cause when he would mess around, it's not really noticeable, or it sounds so good, it adds to the song.
Yeah, I didn't know what he did over those parts either, particularly the 'cymbal solo' where he does those low, bendy things which sound like weird low rumbles on the finished track. I think Page, as the engineer, selected the sounds that he wanted on the mix; Jonesy was in the band because he was such an obvious talent, Jimmy knew it, and he fit in personality-wise. Page probably let him roam free and recorded everything, picked out the parts best needed that he knew would be there. I'm a Jimmy Page fan, but Jones was a very strong and indispensable talent in that band. Some of the best mandolin stuff was done by Jones in my opinion, and who would do keyboards?
Page was not a dictator. Good lord, how do you think that chemistry happened?! It can't be forced. They all knew the had lightning in a bottle and didn't mess with it.
Duncan Mcdonald according to the book Hammer of the Gods, page would sit around mixing, mixing, and we mixing all Zeppelin songs until he lost all confidence. He truly was an engineer. But he also is the main reason that a lot of times musicians shouldn't delve into the engineering to deeply. the way a song is played is the realm of the musician. The way the song sounds, should be in the ears of a top-notch engineer. some of our best rock and roll only sounds as good as it does because it was mixed properly. And no matter how good a piece of music is if it's not mixed properly, it can sound like junk
peter cetera gets the same percussive effect with the pick on "i'm a man". and of course, the man who rewrote the art of playing bass with a pick...chris squire. all great
Cetera gets a bad rap because of his penchant for the sappy, poppy tripe that is the majority of his contribution to the bastardization of Chicago following Terry Kath's death. But I'll check out his bass playing again, sure.
Never heard that isolated bass track before. That is what gives this track that mystery percussion. To this old school bassist, those two parts make the song what it is. Am I hearing a fretless on the octave part? And I love the hanging open D in the middle of the riff. Such good stuff. Goofs and all.
JPJ is the Best Bass Player in the Rock world... I know there are allot of grate bassists out there and I respect all of them... But only one John Paul Jones He Makes my Favorite Drummer play Better than Everyone Else...
No he is using a pick for a heavy percussive sound then deadening the strings with his fretting hand to emphasize the percussive sound. That is making it sound like he has dead strings. It is purely intentional.
JPJ for sure. NOBODY I have heard does the two string hit. See...he hits the fifth fret D as well as the open D. He also hits the low E and E on the A string...
Yep, saw a video interview of him where he told the interviewer the people who transcribed what he does when he plays the song have it all wrong, then he showed how he played the first few bars. Still wish I could play like that. Suppose it would help if I had the gear he used, my 5 string just does not cut it.
Perhaps he layered another track on top of it as you can hear almost a little like slap back delay or something that's not perfectly on. What ever it is sounds cool
No he plays octaves, he said on an interview, i made a cover of this song using his technique here: soundcloud.com/vin-cius-schmitt/bass-cover-led-zeppelin-whole-lotta-love-drum
I used a phaser with it, leslie amp to give more of a percussive sound, John used leslies on many songs on his bass, and well, sounds about right, so i guess he used a bit for this one as well, as soon as you turn the leslie on the tone just fits right into it.
Apathesis0 No I've heard this song 10 million times and Jimmy never sped up...This may be an alternate take or a single track of what was originally two separate tracks to thicken it up and this one could have been quantized so it's tempo shifts slightly in areas..More likely an outtake because there are several 'other" flaws besides the tempo wavering ...
If you're a bassist you're dumb as hell, Flea and JPJ don't really have much separating them. I think Flea is better. On pure technique he's miles ahead of JPJ. His tone is far better, he created a next level sound and style and is a virtuoso. JPJ is also but be honest, do you know anything? Properly educate yourself
Are you a bassist of any real ability or another jackass of no education on the internet? I know what I'm talking about. If your opinion is one is better than the other, cool beans. If you think what you said is the case, the only idiot is you. Fuck off
Each band member is so good that even isolated Zeppelin tracks are pretty much their own songs
2:12 Little tapping on strings or pickup during the long break. Kind of neat to hear in the isolation.
most of the sounds were mixed out-most of it was a Theremin....and there was a part where it was defnititally NOT bongo drums
ASMR
Notice the bass playing speeds up just slightly when the drums come in. It's apart of playing with a band and why quantized midi music will never compare.
says you lol
@@asciicatface smartass
@@extremeteatime8663 Im just saying that that "quantized midi" music has on the whole made me feel way more than any "organic" music has.
fawbak. Absolutely 💯% correct! Wow, hear the string bending just before the main riff picks up again?? Unreal
Yeah, cranking the amp and just playing around, if the take is good, thats it! You can't quantize the playability of a live Jam. Thats it
Nastiest bass guitar tone ever. Makes metal and grunge feel light.
A nasty good tone for this kind of genre 👌
Grunge was never heavy in the first place.
I liked Entwistle's sound better
He's playing octaves
@@adityamittal1134 what about anorexorcist?
0:09 ; commence head bobbing.
MrDudeguitar0 yes
Always
Automatic
0:08 *
You can't help it 😂😂
JPJ...Most underrated bassist and all-around musician out there!
How is he underrated? I'm pretty sure hes well recognised for being one of the best
Not sure he's 'underrated'. He *is* respected by all my friend.
Underrated My Ass “ ?????????
@@reganpearce528 That’s guy’s an Asswipe’s “
Not underrated at all. Real musicians know he’s the man!!
Notice the tempo speed up around 3:50 - it really has the sense of driving through the song right to the end. For whatever reason, modern day producers see this as an “error”, not a meaningful addition to a piece of music. Perhaps it was a means to cut costs, because it’s simpler to use drum machines and quantize lines to reduce the need for studio time and experienced musicians, but I don’t know.
Modern music sucks anyway
Quantization and gridlines in DAW's completely kill the human element of music. That's why bands from the 20th century are so much more relatable and emotional than most bands that have come out in the last 20 years. People rely on click tracks too much these days, any tempo change or slight deviation in BPM is seen as a mistake and not a fundamental feature of the song. Also people think too hard about compression and EQ adjustments and a bunch of editing crap that only waters down the music. When bands like zeppelin, rush, and sabbath were breaking down genre boundaries and pushing the limits of what music can be, do you think they were worried about what their guitar tone sounded like? No, they were recording using tape so they didn't have any quick or easy way to edit songs. What they played was what you heard, period, no embellishments or alterations. Just raw and honest music. When you listen to those classic records, it feels like real human beings are in the room with you playing real instruments. Unlike modern rock that sounds like it was automatically generated by an algorithm on a computer
This is the song that made me wanna play bass back in 1974! WOW - If I had this track back then it would have blown my mind - such an excellent groove - superb!
I love the minor third he adds at :36 right as the drums come in. That little "g" 's one and only appearance in the entire song. Brilliant.
Bum bamppp bubum badaa baddadda baddadda
He hit the wrong note
Page plays it as well on the outro.
@@Rich6Brew hey by minor third does he mean flat third?
B K Yeah, basically the same thing
Not until now did I realize JPJ was tapping on his bass strings. It almost sounds like a tape echo on his bass during the middle break, but I think its just him tapping at different velocities and creating that dynamic.
What a great photo! Jonesy with his fender jazz bass… Bonham going ham on the drums… Page sitting back in the shadows with his dragon telecaster 🐉 …and on the right edge of the frame, Robert’s blond locks…
I love the sound of a bass being slaped or picked!
+Valena Gewehr, are Rick you favourite too?
+Augusto de Moraes Valente In this case it's picked.
GameDirectorHD Yep, I know. I love the fingering of Geddy Lee and JP Jones, but this case is special...
+Augusto de Moraes Valente i love the fingering of Steve harris
+GeorgeMeetsFritzTV Steve Harris uses flats too. They have a higher tension and let you play faster. They also can be positioned much closer to the fretboard making for a unique tone. He basically bounces the strings off the frets
we need Achilles last stand isolated bass track
most bad ass riff of all time
You can hear JPJ tapping his strings during the middle bit... And playing some other phrases here and there!!! Thanks for posting this!!! (Endless vow of respect to JPJ and Led Zeppelin)
that totally shocked me... I was like, what was that in the middle??
Its not the recording thats on the album
Real simple riff but amazing sound, it rocks!
3 notes + JPJ = BADASS
Great sound, So simple, but effective
All Zeppelin dudes are masters... few bands are this good on isolated
What I love is the fact that you can tell the band members are in the booth(s) listening with headphones for their parts during tracking.
Best bass tone I can think of. Nobody lays it down quite like John Paul Jones in this track.
I love rock n roll, but I don't have good ears, so sometimes I can't easily distinguish the bass line in some songs. That's why I started to search for isolated bass tracks, and it's just so magnificent!! Very underrated instrument unfortunately!
Need more JPJ isolated bass tracks for my life
Only Led Zeppelin can top Led Zeppelin... by amazing you in a different way.
I believe I just became pregnant.....
..again??
claimguy Who's the father ????
Jonesey.
@@Braglemaster123 this bassline
He was great with a plectrum on this track- doubling the E and D with fretted and open strings as he plucked the main riff. Sounds like flats on the ‘62 Jazz Bass. Interesting to hear the random pickings he does during Jimmy’s theramin bit. The surfacing of this isolated track explains to me what I was hearing for all these years but couldn’t clearly identify.
I never realized he played all that stuff in the middle, very cool!!!!! Thanks for uploading :)
It's reassuring to hear your hero's have a little fret rattle.
I'm a guitarist and I LOVE THIS!! JPJ CRUSHES THE GROOVE!!! Does the same thing on heartbreaker too!
He plays octaves at the accents - just to mention it ...
+anonymusum He said in some interview that the free E/D strings are so conveniently there he could play those.
He's doubling the fretted D with the open D - doubling, rather than octaves.
@@allrequiredfields Correct. But he is also playing octaves when he plays the open E along with the 7th fret of the A string.
What a whole lotta love for this bassline
Even like this it sounds excellent !!! One of the best rock riffs and songs !!!
The bass that began ROCK music...
John Paul Jones - this guy is from another planet! (in fact all of them I think...) 😍😍😍
THIS SEDUCES WAY TOO HARD
raccoonpunk that's Led Zeppelin for you.
What a great bass line to follow along to if your in this band.
John's intellect on/with music and climate change has been and always will be epic.
He's also playing two strings at the same time, fretting to double some of the notes, then octaving others further up on the fretboard, adding fundamental tension to the notes. That's what gives the bass its thick sound. Also, this is the raw track, before equalization.
wow I didnt know he was doing all those thumping noises during the middle/theramin section...
(hes literally muting the strings while tapping his fingers over the pickups)
for some reason I didnt think Page would given him such freedom/leeway to mess around like that.
Interesting....
Jones was probably the only person in the band that could do that live and in the studio and page wasn't on his about it. It's cause when he would mess around, it's not really noticeable, or it sounds so good, it adds to the song.
Yeah, I didn't know what he did over those parts either, particularly the 'cymbal solo' where he does those low, bendy things which sound like weird low rumbles on the finished track.
I think Page, as the engineer, selected the sounds that he wanted on the mix; Jonesy was in the band because he was such an obvious talent, Jimmy knew it, and he fit in personality-wise. Page probably let him roam free and recorded everything, picked out the parts best needed that he knew would be there. I'm a Jimmy Page fan, but Jones was a very strong and indispensable talent in that band. Some of the best mandolin stuff was done by Jones in my opinion, and who would do keyboards?
Page was not a dictator. Good lord, how do you think that chemistry happened?! It can't be forced. They all knew the had lightning in a bottle and didn't mess with it.
Just to be pedantic, Page wasn't the engineer. He was producer. Those are two very different things.
Duncan Mcdonald according to the book Hammer of the Gods, page would sit around mixing, mixing, and we mixing all Zeppelin songs until he lost all confidence. He truly was an engineer. But he also is the main reason that a lot of times musicians shouldn't delve into the engineering to deeply. the way a song is played is the realm of the musician. The way the song sounds, should be in the ears of a top-notch engineer. some of our best rock and roll only sounds as good as it does because it was mixed properly. And no matter how good a piece of music is if it's not mixed properly, it can sound like junk
peter cetera gets the same percussive effect with the pick on "i'm a man". and of course, the man who rewrote the art of playing bass with a pick...chris squire. all great
Cetera's a damn beast! So many ppl sleep on that guy..I'm constantly telling folks the need to go back and listen
booby vega is the best pick bassist
Cetera gets a bad rap because of his penchant for the sappy, poppy tripe that is the majority of his contribution to the bastardization of Chicago following Terry Kath's death. But I'll check out his bass playing again, sure.
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I want to use this as my ring tone but the problem is I might get lost in the music and forget to answer
It would also sound shit on phone speakers. Alas.
John Paul is so underrated, the man could play some sweet rhythm
This is a bass line to make the giney tingle...
Ingrid Johansen That's one of the reasons I play da bass!
Ingrid Johansen John Paul Jones ALWAYS does.
WAAAAAYYYYY doOOOOOWWWWWWN inSIIIiIiIIiiIDE
that ending sounds so sick with the theremin at the end
Never heard that isolated bass track before. That is what gives this track that mystery percussion. To this old school bassist, those two parts make the song what it is.
Am I hearing a fretless on the octave part? And I love the hanging open D in the middle of the riff. Such good stuff. Goofs and all.
I've been thinking about this, too, and I think we're hearing a subtle harmonic pinch, but I don't think it's fretless.
I agree w/you.
So much concentration on his playing. Great.
Excellent
I'm bassist since 1983.
I own two fender precissions, John is playing a Gibson Les Paul Bass.
Nope, fender jazz but with a pick
Sebastian Schofield you sure? I've only seen him play with his fingers.
There's an old video of him explaining how he plays this song and the pick is the key to it.
SeanO Covers1999 He’s using a pick 👍👍👍
Rick Sadlier Yes
Fun fact, he's actually playing doubled Es (i.e Open E and the E at the 4th position A string).
Interesting how tinny the bass tone is compared to the finished product. Cool
Nothing like it since! JPJ is always so on spot!
now that's a nice bass sound right there
Holy fuck, Robert Plant hits an E5 instead of the released version's B4 in the background at 4:31.
That's amazing.
Absolute beast
That bass better be 18 or older
That bass was 7 at that time.
1962 Fender Jazz Bass
Simple but powerful
JPJ, the secret BEAST in Led Zeppelin.
awesome bass riff
Incredible groove.
Yes. That or Fender flats. They were the only decent flats available in the UK at the time. Although this song was recorded mostly in NYC.
I can feel the head bobbing through the screen
Nice. Thanks for sharing.
JPJ is the Best Bass Player in the Rock world...
I know there are allot of grate bassists out there and I respect all of them... But only one John Paul Jones
He Makes my Favorite Drummer play Better than Everyone Else...
+Mike Bakalian no he's not, he might be the best bass riff maker of the merceybeat era tho, i'll give you that
+Mike Bakalian hes even better than paul mccartney? have you actually ever listen to his bass lines....check em out
+Angus Doyle Nikki Sixx and Leland Sklar run circles around jones and mccartney. Flea from RHCP is better than Jones.
+Matt Bingham Nikki Sixx... Really??
Eh, John Entwistle was better
When you just throw that amp on 11 and chug away at this for an hour straight
Holy bass!
absoliute best rock bassist...responses wiill b ignored.
Cool, hear the string bending just before he starts playing the main riff again? Unreal
gotta love JPJ
No he is using a pick for a heavy percussive sound then deadening the strings with his fretting hand to emphasize the percussive sound. That is making it sound like he has dead strings. It is purely intentional.
This is awesome shit!!!!!He is the man!!1
I'm a Zeppelin fan because of Jones and Bonham
oh my dats a heavy bass
J-P Jones this rocks and blues my sense.
He's using flatwound strings on this song. He had at the time a foam muting system to slightly deaden the strings further.
His accidental harmonics sound like a bell 🛎 or is that Bonham in the background harmonizing with his harmonics low action buzz?
Awesome. Totally awesome.
Love ❤️ Octaves!
dat power chord before the trippy part
JPJ for sure. NOBODY I have heard does the two string hit. See...he hits the fifth fret D as well as the open D. He also hits the low E and E on the A string...
So he does the octaves to beef it up cause he's not using his fingers!
Very common for bass players in 3 piece bands. Andy Fraser, Billy Sheehan, Glenn Cornick, Geddy Lee, Lemmy, McCartney can all be heard doing this.
It really isn't a big deal. Lots of bass players do it. Calm down Yeah?
I meant particularly this cover, not in general
You gotta do the octaves. It sounds so much fuckin better. Gives it that chuggin vibe
I love this
Notice the uneven tempo. I LOVE the uneven nature
love that analogue bass sound.
JPJ is the greatest musician ever. I'm not talking about just the bass. It's about his musical IQ (imho)
Yep, saw a video interview of him where he told the interviewer the people who transcribed what he does when he plays the song have it all wrong, then he showed how he played the first few bars. Still wish I could play like that. Suppose it would help if I had the gear he used, my 5 string just does not cut it.
For the neighbours.
I'm glad John Paul stayed clean and still play music
He did his share of partying but still managed to keep his head on his shoulders. Admirable man as well as musician.
I would't say he used it on this one, but for sure he did it on Heartbreaker :)
Playing with a pick ?
😩❤ tan puto amo en el bajo es John paul Jones y la canción 😩❤
it's all about the bass.
Shlamazing. Though he is playing many octaves it sounds like he has a little bit of a harmonizer or octaver of sorts
Perhaps he layered another track on top of it as you can hear almost a little like slap back delay or something that's not perfectly on. What ever it is sounds cool
No he plays octaves, he said on an interview, i made a cover of this song using his technique here:
soundcloud.com/vin-cius-schmitt/bass-cover-led-zeppelin-whole-lotta-love-drum
Cool, that's what I originally thought. Thanx for the link
I used a phaser with it, leslie amp to give more of a percussive sound, John used leslies on many songs on his bass, and well, sounds about right, so i guess he used a bit for this one as well, as soon as you turn the leslie on the tone just fits right into it.
Sweet going bro. What leslie plugin are you using? Logic use to have one and now it seems to be gone.
So this cut wasn't played live in studio?
Doubling makes it sound powerful, thats playing the same bass part over the origianal
bass part, old studio trick. McCartney also did that
It's strange that on the first part before the break there is a point where he speeds up and almost sounds rushed but then becomes steady again...
Yup
Probably because Jimmy Page sped up.
Apathesis0
No I've heard this song 10 million times and Jimmy never sped up...This may be an alternate take or a single track of what was originally two separate tracks to thicken it up and this one could have been quantized so it's tempo shifts slightly in areas..More likely an outtake because there are several 'other" flaws besides the tempo wavering ...
toob maniac
double time
What software was used to do this? I want to remaster an album with an enhanced bass guitar track.
you should do one for ms vanderbuilt by wings that bass line is amazing
Jonesy the magician!
JPJ♥
Whole Lotta Bass
I wouldn't let Flea lick JPJ's boots.
+Ridgid Glo
As much as I love JPJ and Led Zeppelin, Flea is one of my fav rock/fusion/funk/whatever... bassist out there....
+Ridgid Glo That is cause you're not JPJ
If you're a bassist you're dumb as hell, Flea and JPJ don't really have much separating them. I think Flea is better. On pure technique he's miles ahead of JPJ. His tone is far better, he created a next level sound and style and is a virtuoso. JPJ is also but be honest, do you know anything? Properly educate yourself
Are you a bassist of any real ability or another jackass of no education on the internet? I know what I'm talking about. If your opinion is one is better than the other, cool beans. If you think what you said is the case, the only idiot is you. Fuck off
24, but since you didn't answer my question ......... the only bassist in the conversation?
1:48 pushing string down until it hits the pole piece of the pickup.