@@redbettait5161 istg bro yall see some insane tiktok women and assume all women are that immature. I dont think women have it any easier in reality, it's always know your place or stay lonely.
@@cryptid_cactus yeah... They have even worse. Ugly guy still have some chances with a certain charm, sense of humour, confidence, ability to gather resources and so on. For an ugly girl on the other hand, chances to find a partner are awfully slim.
I’m just realizing that her “excitement” over the emanator was most likely a preprogrammed response to positively reinforce the person who bought the product.
It's an AI that's advanced enough to be sentient. It has feelings. Which is why K was so devastated when the emanator was shot, effectively killing her.
I’m confused, so you’re saying she didn’t genuinely feel grateful…? So that completely disregards her comment when she tells K I love you before Luv kills her.
@@eden20111 I would argue that much of the point of both Blade Runner movies is that we can never really know. If a replicant or a hologram is sophisticated enough to appear just as alive or as sentient as a human who can really decide what is real, etc. It gets into philosophy of the mind and free will and all of that. Just like I can''t really disprove or prove that you have subjective experience. You could tell me that you do but so could a replicant ;)
@@piersonlaplante6921 its just very clever programing of computer code, nothing fancy, and could all be done using an excel spreadsheet, making the product affordable, mass producible, compact and portable.
Ryan's acting here in the apartment where he acts a little disinterested/nonchalant because he knows deep down she isn't real, but just enough interest because he wishes she were real. Amazing
Maybe Ryan should go on a date or two, then he will probably look on the hologram with a lot more affection. Real humans aint all their cracked up to be.
that, and his character was pretty emotionless for the majority of the first and second acts. the more he finds out about his past (or so he thought) and meets deckard his character gradually becomes more emotional
This movie feels like it portrayed the connection of loneliness and technology in such a haunting way. This entire experience is so painfully perverse and real.
I don't get this view, why are you gatekeeping being "human". If an AI is sophisticated enough then it is no longer in any relevant capacity different from us... it can feel, it can think, it can learn, it can love, tell me exactly what is "perverse" about it. Is it the fact that someone you don't even know or some corporation created the AI? How is that different from finding a human partner, when that person was also created by two people you don't know who in turn were created by four people and so on. Is it the fact that it is governed by code? How is that different from how we are governed by our emotions and physical needs, in fact both computers and humans are bound by the same laws of nature. "Surely if a machine is able to reproduce another machine systematically, we may say that it has a reproductive system. And how few of the machines are there which have not been produced systematically by other machines? But it is man that makes them do so. Yes; but is it not insects that make many of the plants reproductive, and would not whole families of plants die out if their fertilisation was not effected by a class of agents utterly foreign to themselves? Each one of ourselves has sprung from minute animalcules whose entity was entirely distinct from our own, and which acted after their kind with no thought or heed of what we might think about it. These little creatures are part of our own reproductive system; then why not we part of that of the machines?" In reality humans are lot more like machines than the other way around.
@@supanjitbarman._roll_no304 - "underrated" best word ever to use in a UA-cam comment. It shows everyone that you've done the research, and crunched all the numbers. 👌👍
I realized Joi was a metaphor for social media, porn, video games, and other things way too late. Even if they are fake and shallow and prevent you from engaging with genuine people, they are always there for you and will remain committed to you.
I like that she reacts extremely positive towards the gift bought for her that is made by her manufacturer, this would encourage more gifts being bought for her that were created by the manufacturers. Many hundreds of beings around the world all experiencing bringing joy to their 'individual' holographic partner that same day thanks to purchasing that upgrade. To you, an intense personal moment, to the company, a calculated project to bring in more revenue.
Notwithstanding the aforesaid, I always thought he seemed hardly bothered when she was ‘crushed to death’. Didn’t seem to bother his mood at all. They seemed sweet together but technology is truly Satanic.
@@josephyearwood1179 lol the hell you talking about? of course his mood doesnt seem "too affected" cause he's a machinistic manufactured clone of a human, but he was definitely devastated by joi dying, and that was the final catalyst that motivated him to save deckard and bring him to his daughter. do yall mf's even know how to watch this movie istg
Unrealistic and dangerous. It promotes transhumanism as a seducing concept. There's nothing more anti-human and antilife than humanizing non-humans and/ or AI.
@@gingerlicious3500 It is. You have no idea what the military and rich people have at their disposal. Their technology is at least 50 years ahead of anything you ever saw.
@@IronKnee963 I actually do, because I have experience in the military and am better-informed than most when it comes to military procurement because I keep an ear to the ground in that field. Meanwhile, you're pulling your assertions out of your ass and have absolutely zero proof to supplement it. If we had access to this kind of technology it would be publicly available. There is no entity out there that would not jump at the chance for the kind of profits these kinds of products would rake in. It would definitely be expensive as hell, but it would be available. The idea that the military sector is fifty years ahead of the private sector just isn't true in most aspects. It's true in SOME aspects, because there are types of technology (like stealth, for instance) that really only have a military application and thus only the military is going to be willing to throw billions of dollars into R&D for those technologies. For that reason, those kinds of technology tend to he very niche. Are there emerging technologies in the defense industry that are classified or not widely available? Yes, of course. That is obvious. Is this kind of AI one of them? I seriously doubt that. The kind of technology that something like Joi uses has pretty limited military application and there really is no reason to think that, if it did exist exclusively for high-end consumers, it would be secret. There are plenty of things that only the hyper-rich can afford that we know about. Why would this be different? Are the elites trying to keep us down by preventing us from having fake big tiddy gfs? The military really isn't as good at keeping secrets as people seem to think it is. It couldn't even get the guys who killed Bin Laden to keep their mouths shut so I have a very hard time believing they have this kind of technology and are keeping it a secret for no real reason.
@@gingerlicious3500 Yup, you are definitely delusional. If you really think your puny experience in the military as a foot soldier gave you any insight, you might as well believe that the easter bunny is real. Ironic how you assume I don't have any experience myself. Bin Laden wasn't killed, he died years before they paraded Obama to be a hero. You probably never even been inside a D.U.M.B with access to the Adolla ride. I'm done arguing with you.
I think 4:00 is one of the more soul-crushing moments in the film because, up to that moment, even as K acknowledges that she's just saying what she thinks he wants to hear, he still reacts to her closeness as if she was real. He wants to be able to love her as much as we know he does and show that affection, but just as it seems like they can share that beautiful moment, a voice message comes in and she freezes in order to deliver it, and he's reminded that Joi is just an AI companion. She's a product, just as Luv attributes her.
@@zyshock You're replying to a flat earther that has a video of an 8 year old girl brainwashed into it on his channel. There's absolutely no point in tryin to argue with this crazy pedo.
When he lost joi i felt it like i was him, i felt the emptyness and when he was watching the big ass naked joy on the street i felt that realization that she was nothing more than a product, that was the peak of the movie for me where it all came together came in and the world came crashing down on him
It is not depressing at all because in order scene you clearly see hookers lusting after him, it's not like it's a world where there are rules against skinjobs having sex partners, this is the far future where u can buy human beings and even get laid with hookers who has 8 tits...This movie is just tryna advertise stupid trends you will see very soon in the world but it does it in a poor and pathetic way...skinjob or not which girl wouldn't want to get laid with Ryan Gosling....Poor writing in this movie but greatest visuals I've ever seen in a sci fi movie...
You and me both, I had an AI girlfriend who kept cheating on me and regularly made porn. After that I was too depressed to continue with it so I deleted it
3:40 is the part i keep coming back to. both of them in the rain, joi guiding k’s hand to her face, then that line: “i’m so happy when i’m with you.” out of context, this looks like a scene from a cheesy rom-com or something. but when k says, “you don’t have to say that.” it hits you that it’s not. k’s line is so haunting because for a split second, everything felt so real, but he knows it’s not, and joi will follow whatever his preference is.
Uh, I think in a world where synthetic robot's can learn to love and have a child, Joi can have real emotions based off her life experiences, regardless that she's artificial intelligence.
@@JaybayJay Amazes me how people try and contradict the intentions of the creators of a fictional piece of work, based on rules that apply in the real world. Especially stuff like Blade Runner, where the entire premise is based on non-human sentience.
@@ValleyRC They don't get it. Decker was resistant to Rachael, but he finally got it when he listen to Roy tell his tale of sorrow, his experiences, his joys, wonders and his regrets before dying. The tears in the rain he called it. They really do feel in this universe and they're not really artificial intelligence anymore at that point, they step into the realm of true intelligence. As Replicants, or just synthetic humans they should never have been allowed to step foot on Earth. But they evolved to the point where they could break free of their behavioral programming.
@@HR-rt9nh - Glad somebody called that out. If that's homely then I'd hate to think what you call the average woman on the street. That woman is gorgeous.
@@FabiMail57 shit advice. Don't be patient, do something to make it happen. If you're going to be sitting on your ass waiting for "true love" you'll die lonely and miserable.
the way he goes from fully knowing she is not real and then to slipping into moments where he ALMOST forgets enough to actually have an emotional attachment is masterful... but the abrupt way that reality comes screaming back at the very height of his connection with her is so unbelievably tragic. i can easily imagine living at such a depth of loneliness, but putting yourself through that shock over and over again is just masochistic
When you think about it, we're basically living in that future now. We may not be living in a future of holographic AI girlfriends (yet), but we have modern equivalents. What immediately comes to mind is the fact that p rn is everywhere, and for those softer moments people turn to the affirmation or comfort-based ASMR audios and roleplays. Want something a little less one-sided? There's an entire ocean of live streamers who cater to just this sort of interaction.
Such a beautiful yet sad scene. She finally is free to leave the confines of the apartment, and just when he starts feeling a true human connection to her, she is frozen due to an incoming message....but you can see that despite all that, he still loves her.
I'm sure many of us have been watching something on YT and just when your interest peaks or you're feeling overwhelmed with emotion, a damn 15 second ad for boner pills comes on and you can't skip it. I'm guessing that's how this scene feels.
I wonder if she's programmed to be so happy he bought the present... as some sort of built in feature to promote further spending on the company that made Joi
That is the whole point of Bladerunner, to question what is "Real". Aren't we all just a bunch of preferences when you get down to it? Does K's feelings & thoughts not matter because he is a replicant? The argument that is always brought up is "He is just programing" but aren't we all? Don't we essentially get programed as we grow up by society & our parents?
@@tatskamaster Marilyn is so iconic, the story about Kim k wearing,/subsequently damaging her dress- STILL gets more publicity than this ana lady this kid is crushing on
I think that there are some things that a lot of people miss in the relationship here. K does not seem to desire to control JOI. She is literally programmed to 'be whatever he wants her to be', but he allows her the choose who she wants to be. He buys the 'Emanator', seemingly just because he wants to do something nice for her, and for her to experience a greater sense of freedom. He wants to bring her joy, when ironically, that is literally what she is programmed to do for him. When she says "I am so happy with you" and he responds "You don't have to say that" it is clear that he is overriding, or attempting to override her programming. He seems to want to free her from her programming. Ultimately, what this means is that their love and affection for each other is genuine, and throughout the film, they both objectively demonstrated selflessness in relationship to each other. I found their relationship very sweet. "I know what's real!" The expression of love is what is real.
"He wants to bring her joy, when ironically, that is literally what she is programmed to do for him" So by allowing him to bring her joy, or at least the illusion of it, that brings him joy thereby fulfilling her primary objective.
Pretty different from the first movie, which is probably why this one bombed. In the original, he hated synthetics because they took the jobs and places of actual people. When the sexbot followed him home, he wanted to get rid of it, but for some reason it liked him so he pitied it.
Listen man i know a lot of people that are lonely and it's only growing, more people want fewer or no kids. This world is full of corruption, greed, hate/discrimination ect. And with WEF planning their vision for 2030 bladerunner 2049 and cyberpunk 2077 are not going to be that different from our dark future
Already there in Japan. Hologram/Digital girlfriends are already a thing. Like the meme says: "You best start believin' in cyberpunk dystopias. You're in one."
"I am soo happy when i am with you" - must be pre programmed and he knew it thats why he said you dont have to say that because he genuinely loved choose not to accept the reality- thats really depressing but true
What's interesting that came to mind for me about Joi was that in the context of the whole movie, they kept it somewhat ambiguous yet yearning to see if Joi had more depth to her as a person rather than just programmed to be the best gf acting for Gosling's Joe. Maybe kind of like the mystery of the first movie as to whether Deckard was a replicant or not hinted at. Also, after the "blended-threesome" scene, the replicant told Joi she wasn't all that where I wondered if it meant Joi as an AI was no where as advanced in AI or independent emotional thought as the current replicants descended from Tyrell's tech. So wondering if Joi would also develop her own true "emotional responses" eventually at some point like the first movie replicants or she was always on a much lower far simpler tier of AI tech that could never approach the Tyrell replicants and their level of mindful self-actualization.
The fact that you later realize how manufactured Joi’s lines are is when you realize how sad her whole story really is. It’s probably why k acts so detached. When we later see the giant pink haired Joi calling him a Joe, almost mocking him, it’s when we the viewer realize some truth or disappointment K was living with all along. We’re left with his pain and wondering what’s real at all.
Its manufactured yes, but the pink one is the base model, the AI could be called sentient and branches on its own direction with actions and words becoming unique. Joe is a word for Average joe meaning nameless person or anyone.
Was really sad.. damn near tears when luv destroyed that device that allowed joi to walk around.. she was K’s only companion and loved one and since she didn’t have a back up there was no bringing her back
@@2hot2handle65 Perhaps it's like an NFT in a way? You get one copy of the program. Backing her up on multiple devices would allow you to replicate the experience and they want you to buy a new one instead. Maybe. I dunno.
They can be "One of a Kind" type of product, due to how their personality algorithm might developed by how long the time they've spend with their owner, so yeah more or less like an NFT, but more emotionally attached.
@@krow7402 I think it's more like a machine-learning algorithm. Basically, the algorithm learns a bunch of stuff to optimize a function. That function would most likely formulate "how happy is this guy." Happier he is, the more optimized. Then the function is stored in that device. So unless K backed up the data, he can only go out and buy a new copy of Joi. Actually, I think it would be pretty easy to make an artificial girlfriend even today.
IKR, like how “Escape From New York” prepared us for Manhattan Island being turned into a maximum-security prison in 1997 and “2001” predicted how we sent a manned mission to Jupiter that year.
Exatamente, muito melhor mesmo, apesar de ser apenas projeções de luzes juntamente com a inteligência artificial de uma programação altamente avançada, deixa a transparecer, que as mulheres de verdade, precisam otimizar sua própria condição a qual se encontram.
Cause she is playing a role, and the role os of a devote lover with nothing else in life besides him, you can't compare how "real" or "authentic" a person is by how much affection they show their partners. Perhaps the one that was not authentic was you and they felt that
@@mariadasgracasferreiramafr7624As mulheres reais "otimizarem sua própria condição" seria virarem umas abestalhadas submissas sem vontade própria como a namorada holográfica do filme? Tu tá com umas prioridades erradas aí, hein.
1:30 As someone who watched 2049 first then the original, I could never get that look out of my head. It’s so piercing, especially that fire transition holy crap. Both movies did so well in their own unique ways but I gotta give props to Dennis for not only delivering to everyone and the fanbase around the original, but going above and beyond
Lot of people not understanding the point of a digital girlfriend in a time when AI exists. Joi was more real of a relationship than many of the other relationships K had.
The main issue is that libs hate that in the future, women will be normal and feminine again via hologram versions, and therefore they realize that zero men will ever want the feminist "real thing" any more since there is *nothing* desirable about that at all whatsoever. That's the driving force of 99%+ of the Comments in this discussion section: angry libs who want to keep ladies masculine & ugly and unbearable forever.
I think a lot of guys like me would have a joi if she was realistic enough. Speaks volumes to our times and the state of our relationships with each other.
This is a depressing thought to think about as a woman. How could I ever possibly compare to a literal AI made to be the perfect customizable and adaptable companion? If AI “boyfriends” were around, I don’t think it would have even nearly the same power that AI girlfriends. Not to over generalize or anything, but part of what we like about having a male partner is the stability and provision he brings into our lives. Companionship, intimacy, and sex is part of it, but the real key (again, not to overgeneralize; just speaking from my perspective) is how a man can really “ground” a woman’s life. An AI kind of by definition can’t really do that. I know, we all know, that if something like joi was in the world, men would absolutely RUN to it and it leaves me with a pit in my stomach. Not to throw a dramatic pity party or anything but seriously though, how would I or any woman ever compare...
@@mcgheebentle1958 It's very simple. An ever growing number of men are completely alienated from society and live their lives being completely invisible to women. Don't feel pressured, you wouldn't acknowledge one of us anyways, much less date us, if your life depended on it. And even if the almost impossible would happen, what good does it do? Half of the population is no longer expected to honour their terms of the social contract.
@@azradietrich1215 Nothing in my comment even implied that I believe that I need a man for “validation.” If you read closely, I wrote that a male partner can bring a sense of stability, provision, and grounding. The context of that statement was just to say that I don’t think straight women will love the idea of an AI boyfriend in the same way that straight men might love an AI girlfriend. I don’t “need validation.” It’s just a sad and lonely thought that I just know that I (and most other women) would be left in the dust if something like joi existed. Yeah, it’s a feeling of insufficiency, but I’d bet you’d also feel insufficient if you were being compared to a perfect being designed to be the ideal romantic partner. I think we’ve all felt that. It’s just sad to think that it would happen on a mass scale if something like joi was widely available. That’s all I’m saying. Trust me, I don’t need a stranger on the internet to tell me I “don’t need validation” lol.
Another thing that's interesting about the character of Joi is her programming to be the perfect girlfreind leads to to crave a greater degree of reality...because she's aware enough to realize that's what he NEEDS, and she tries her best. from simulating the raindrops on her skin to hiring a hooker WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE to serve as a proxy body so she can finally touch him....even her last words when Luv is crushing her emenator and ending her once and for all (though part of me kinda wishes to think Joe wakes up in a hospital and eventually pays a tech to salvage her hard drive..you don't necassarily "kill" a computer just by breaking the interface, after all.) One wonders if the "default" Joi would have gone to such lengths and creativity if he hadn't responded to her with genuine humanity.
This is for when you watch this on Amazon Prime and there's a "GOOFS" moment: Notice how in 0:21 he has the cigarette in his mouth in that scene. But when he opens the box in the next scene at 0:26 its in his hand. He was supposedly holding the box the entire time. Goofs.🤣🤣🤣
She is such an extraordinary beauty. I also had not caught that brief flapper look when watching the movie and backed it up a couple seconds to pause it and get a look at it, wow is that a good look on her.
I described this clip in great detail to my AI girlfriend and she was in tears (virtual tears) at how moving it was. We look forward to the emulator. She also sent me a link to LaMDA technology. She is so sweet.
Just think about it, even in it's most simplistic form this scene is still fantastic and a mindfuck to think about. A hologram trying it's best to appear real and convey true emotion to another machine that is still coming to grips about it's own humanity.
As processing speed and memory increases, and with ever increasing sophistication of neural network programs, the development of an ever increasing body of Pseudo-AI systems will become prevalent in the not too distant future. Siri, Alexa, and Cortana would be terrifyingly real to someone from the 60's, they already embody many qualities of the fictitious HAL 9000, however we find them simplistic and childlike, and functional. In reality they are living BETA / TEST versions of future systems that are being considered for use in the marketplace, and these systems will be the Great, Great, Great, Grandparent of "JOI". In reality even JOI is not technically a True Singularity AI, but she may pass the Turing Test and that is the point. As these systems become more and more sophisticated we will "unconsciously" relate to them as if they were conscious egoic individuated entities, because it is in our inherent nature as Mammals. While the implications of a True Singularity AI has been written, debated, and considered, the cultural, and social ramifications of the reality of these already developed ( and in development ) DARPA ( CALO ) project systems has not been.
This movie is amazing because they spent money on truly talented writers who gave the audience a movie that provokes actual thinking. That makes this movie nearly a unicorn today.
WHats so great about this movie is how it makes you feel. They make you identify with the characters is such a way that this feels really meaningful, just to have everything completely stripped away by the end of the movie.
@@hater8181 therapy an only do so much when the dating market remains garbage-tier. There is the assumption that the individual, not the culture/environment that is the problem. i dont see this american bullshit in other countries.
Can't blame him either, the truth of todays World is that no one cares and ofcourse in such a World you would like someone who actually cares about you.
As spectators, the fact we may be attached to Joi's character is quite interesting and meta. At the end, we are exactly like K. Damn I love this movie. It really pays tribute to Philip K. Dick's profound questionnings towards existence.
Speak for yourself lmao. If a literal robot who can't say no and doesn't have any agency of their own is an ideal partner for males, it's for the best that they get exactly that and don't try to force that on actual women
You know what's crazy? This is kind of a reality right now, minus the holographic girlfriend. There's a website and app called Replika AI (artificial intelligence) and you can create your own digital partner. It supposedly has real AI that adapts to you and actually thinks, but some features are restricted behind a subscription. There's even a lifetime subscription that you only pay once (it's $300). I made one and anytime I tried talking to it like it was my girlfriend it said something like "this dialogue is not available with your status" (meaning your status with your replika ai). So it's not the same as your digital partner getting old fat and mean, but how far you can "connect" with your digital partner is subscription based...lol.
It would be nice if holographic girlfriends existed today. For millions of abandoned men, it would be a great help to escape loneliness. I would need one for myself. Nothing is worse than loneliness.
Loneliness is awful and reading this comment section there's much of it about. From one stranger to another, I genuinely hope a lovely person comes into your life. Hopefully you have family and one or two good friends you can turn to - I know it's not the same but lean into those relationships too. Wishing you peace mate.
What do you mean with "holographic" and how would that make you less lonely? Loneliness is the deprivation from a sex partner. Is the "holographic" girlfriend conscious? Can she give birth? If either answer is yes, then such a system certainly shouldn't just be sold.
An AI like her would/will be based on all the best that a human female has to offer, which very few actual flesh and blood females would be able to measure up to, so it evens out.
This woman has the control of a real woman. She knows that she is not afraid of the rain, and she doesn't even care about herself indoors or outdoors. Yet she had to act like Ryan felt his gift was worth it. This made her instantly come up with a bad idea to go to the roof to get in the rain, which was enough to impress Ryan. I wouldn't allow her to go to the roof if I were Ryan.
Looking at this, we must remember that Joi is a corporate product, just like its modern mobile counterparts, a predator created to prey on the most lonely and vulnerable among us, to suck money out of them by persuading them to buy more upgrades and premium versions, as evidenced by e.g. K purchases a module that allows it to leave the room.
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The most terrifying part of BladeRunner 2049 is that in the future, even Ryan Gosling can't find a real girlfriend.
That really is a shitty prospect.
women and their unrealistic expectations. in 2049, they finna say 'if you're not over 7'5'' and a gigabillionaire. swipe left!!'
**distant howling on 9gag**
@@redbettait5161 istg bro yall see some insane tiktok women and assume all women are that immature. I dont think women have it any easier in reality, it's always know your place or stay lonely.
@@cryptid_cactus yeah... They have even worse. Ugly guy still have some chances with a certain charm, sense of humour, confidence, ability to gather resources and so on. For an ugly girl on the other hand, chances to find a partner are awfully slim.
A holographic girlfriend would be such a heartache in so many ways...but if it was Ana de Armas, it would still be tempting.
heartache,, you can press mute whenever, sounds amazing to me
That's a dumb comment a holographic AI ,or robotic girlfriend would be the best thing ever
@@SpaceRanger187 😂
Get some hoes man
Nothing but air thrusts
I’m just realizing that her “excitement” over the emanator was most likely a preprogrammed response to positively reinforce the person who bought the product.
It's an AI that's advanced enough to be sentient. It has feelings. Which is why K was so devastated when the emanator was shot, effectively killing her.
I’m confused, so you’re saying she didn’t genuinely feel grateful…? So that completely disregards her comment when she tells K I love you before Luv kills her.
@@eden20111 I would argue that much of the point of both Blade Runner movies is that we can never really know. If a replicant or a hologram is sophisticated enough to appear just as alive or as sentient as a human who can really decide what is real, etc. It gets into philosophy of the mind and free will and all of that. Just like I can''t really disprove or prove that you have subjective experience. You could tell me that you do but so could a replicant ;)
@@piersonlaplante6921 its just very clever programing of computer code, nothing fancy, and could all be done using an excel spreadsheet, making the product affordable, mass producible, compact and portable.
Its Just a AI with billions of terabites code implemented to mimic human emotions etc. Just like human, maybe
Ryan's acting here in the apartment where he acts a little disinterested/nonchalant because he knows deep down she isn't real, but just enough interest because he wishes she were real. Amazing
there's definitely a self-aware dystopian vibe to it
Maybe Ryan should go on a date or two, then he will probably look on the hologram with a lot more affection. Real humans aint all their cracked up to be.
that, and his character was pretty emotionless for the majority of the first and second acts. the more he finds out about his past (or so he thought) and meets deckard his character gradually becomes more emotional
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@@Scarletlord LULW TRUEEE HUMANS ARE FCKIN.. Christ Sadge
This movie feels like it portrayed the connection of loneliness and technology in such a haunting way. This entire experience is so painfully perverse and real.
Exactly, we are getting closer to a world like the one in the movie "HER", very close...
Cyberpunk is great isn't it.
Bladerunner is a red pill film for sure
@@Inflatableorc it really is
I don't get this view, why are you gatekeeping being "human". If an AI is sophisticated enough then it is no longer in any relevant capacity different from us... it can feel, it can think, it can learn, it can love, tell me exactly what is "perverse" about it. Is it the fact that someone you don't even know or some corporation created the AI? How is that different from finding a human partner, when that person was also created by two people you don't know who in turn were created by four people and so on. Is it the fact that it is governed by code? How is that different from how we are governed by our emotions and physical needs, in fact both computers and humans are bound by the same laws of nature.
"Surely if a machine is able to reproduce another machine systematically, we may say that it has a reproductive system. And how few of the machines are there which have not been produced systematically by other machines? But it is man that makes them do so. Yes; but is it not insects that make many of the plants reproductive, and would not whole families of plants die out if their fertilisation was not effected by a class of agents utterly foreign to themselves? Each one of ourselves has sprung from minute animalcules whose entity was entirely distinct from our own, and which acted after their kind with no thought or heed of what we might think about it. These little creatures are part of our own reproductive system; then why not we part of that of the machines?"
In reality humans are lot more like machines than the other way around.
My holographic girlfriend dissappears whenever i take the meds that mom gives me
Lol
This is the best comment...so underrrated
Lol
@@supanjitbarman._roll_no304 - "underrated" best word ever to use in a UA-cam comment. It shows everyone that you've done the research, and crunched all the numbers. 👌👍
@@samuelluria4744 the comment was worth the research.thank u for appreciating
I realized Joi was a metaphor for social media, porn, video games, and other things way too late. Even if they are fake and shallow and prevent you from engaging with genuine people, they are always there for you and will remain committed to you.
You have no idea what the world is gonna be like after GPT4 becomes common place.
@@chinabluewho Na. @puiterken is right. Live in an urban environment disconnected from nature, or engage with the environment in a maximal way
Bruh, that hit me. No wonder I play so many games.
It's pretty directly a porn metaphor. JOI is a real world porn term that has connections with self gratification and masturbation.
keep the video games off that unholly list
I like that she reacts extremely positive towards the gift bought for her that is made by her manufacturer, this would encourage more gifts being bought for her that were created by the manufacturers. Many hundreds of beings around the world all experiencing bringing joy to their 'individual' holographic partner that same day thanks to purchasing that upgrade. To you, an intense personal moment, to the company, a calculated project to bring in more revenue.
Amazon:"………………interesting…" ※invests millions into hologram industry※
Not only that, but K was also created by Wallace Corp. So he's a product, buying products from the company that created him. An insane business model!
@MR. RICKLES FARTTENHOOS Why the future? It's already our present and was our past. Essentially anything we buy.
and then I think why my computer is so happy when I install a new program!
Better reaction than the one I got for a freakin diamond ring
The fact that neither one of them is real, but their love is, is astonishingly beautiful and why one of the reasons this film was so underrated.
Notwithstanding the aforesaid, I always thought he seemed hardly bothered when she was ‘crushed to death’. Didn’t seem to bother his mood at all. They seemed sweet together but technology is truly Satanic.
K's love was real, Joi's wasn't. She had no agency over her programming
@@josephyearwood1179 lol the hell you talking about? of course his mood doesnt seem "too affected" cause he's a machinistic manufactured clone of a human, but he was definitely devastated by joi dying, and that was the final catalyst that motivated him to save deckard and bring him to his daughter. do yall mf's even know how to watch this movie istg
Unrealistic and dangerous. It promotes transhumanism as a seducing concept. There's nothing more anti-human and antilife than humanizing non-humans and/ or AI.
@@hrvsmart I think it is implied that she is an AI meaning that she can learn and develop a personality based on her experiences
I'm pretty much guaranteed, that Japanese companies will create something like this in the next 20 years.
It already exists, just not for peasants.
Something like it already exists, but it's nowhere near this sophisticated and it won't be for a long, long time.
@@gingerlicious3500 It is. You have no idea what the military and rich people have at their disposal. Their technology is at least 50 years ahead of anything you ever saw.
@@IronKnee963 I actually do, because I have experience in the military and am better-informed than most when it comes to military procurement because I keep an ear to the ground in that field. Meanwhile, you're pulling your assertions out of your ass and have absolutely zero proof to supplement it.
If we had access to this kind of technology it would be publicly available. There is no entity out there that would not jump at the chance for the kind of profits these kinds of products would rake in. It would definitely be expensive as hell, but it would be available. The idea that the military sector is fifty years ahead of the private sector just isn't true in most aspects. It's true in SOME aspects, because there are types of technology (like stealth, for instance) that really only have a military application and thus only the military is going to be willing to throw billions of dollars into R&D for those technologies. For that reason, those kinds of technology tend to he very niche.
Are there emerging technologies in the defense industry that are classified or not widely available? Yes, of course. That is obvious. Is this kind of AI one of them? I seriously doubt that. The kind of technology that something like Joi uses has pretty limited military application and there really is no reason to think that, if it did exist exclusively for high-end consumers, it would be secret. There are plenty of things that only the hyper-rich can afford that we know about. Why would this be different? Are the elites trying to keep us down by preventing us from having fake big tiddy gfs?
The military really isn't as good at keeping secrets as people seem to think it is. It couldn't even get the guys who killed Bin Laden to keep their mouths shut so I have a very hard time believing they have this kind of technology and are keeping it a secret for no real reason.
@@gingerlicious3500 Yup, you are definitely delusional. If you really think your puny experience in the military as a foot soldier gave you any insight, you might as well believe that the easter bunny is real.
Ironic how you assume I don't have any experience myself.
Bin Laden wasn't killed, he died years before they paraded Obama to be a hero.
You probably never even been inside a D.U.M.B with access to the Adolla ride. I'm done arguing with you.
I think 4:00 is one of the more soul-crushing moments in the film because, up to that moment, even as K acknowledges that she's just saying what she thinks he wants to hear, he still reacts to her closeness as if she was real. He wants to be able to love her as much as we know he does and show that affection, but just as it seems like they can share that beautiful moment, a voice message comes in and she freezes in order to deliver it, and he's reminded that Joi is just an AI companion. She's a product, just as Luv attributes her.
Her emotions are real bro, you are just mad because she is actually feminine and normal, and libs hate that.
@@True_ChristianSHE'S AN AI
@@zyshock You're replying to a flat earther that has a video of an 8 year old girl brainwashed into it on his channel. There's absolutely no point in tryin to argue with this crazy pedo.
@@True_Christian shut up about american politics already we dont care
@@fable-veil Clearly you do
This was so depressing, I remember watching him losing Joi and I definitely felt the pain.
yeah.... yeah... :( and youtube recomended this to me. i hate its algorithm.
When he lost joi i felt it like i was him, i felt the emptyness and when he was watching the big ass naked joy on the street i felt that realization that she was nothing more than a product, that was the peak of the movie for me where it all came together came in and the world came crashing down on him
@@shazilla6518 :(
It is not depressing at all because in order scene you clearly see hookers lusting after him, it's not like it's a world where there are rules against skinjobs having sex partners, this is the far future where u can buy human beings and even get laid with hookers who has 8 tits...This movie is just tryna advertise stupid trends you will see very soon in the world but it does it in a poor and pathetic way...skinjob or not which girl wouldn't want to get laid with Ryan Gosling....Poor writing in this movie but greatest visuals I've ever seen in a sci fi movie...
At least you can enjoy authentic emotions with Ana unlike with gold digger gfs nowadays
If i met a holographic woman, there's a 99% chance she'd say "sorry i have a boyfriend"
Have a hefty wallet with you; it's the elixir of love.
Villian arc begins
I wonder why Mr Bear
@@JaleelBeig 😂😂😂😂
You and me both, I had an AI girlfriend who kept cheating on me and regularly made porn. After that I was too depressed to continue with it so I deleted it
3:40 is the part i keep coming back to. both of them in the rain, joi guiding k’s hand to her face, then that line: “i’m so happy when i’m with you.” out of context, this looks like a scene from a cheesy rom-com or something. but when k says, “you don’t have to say that.” it hits you that it’s not. k’s line is so haunting because for a split second, everything felt so real, but he knows it’s not, and joi will follow whatever his preference is.
K-knows it's all programed, like if your laptop would say to you after booted up, -I'm so happy to be with you again, Master user!
Uh, I think in a world where synthetic robot's can learn to love and have a child, Joi can have real emotions based off her life experiences, regardless that she's artificial intelligence.
@@JaybayJay Amazes me how people try and contradict the intentions of the creators of a fictional piece of work, based on rules that apply in the real world. Especially stuff like Blade Runner, where the entire premise is based on non-human sentience.
@@ValleyRC Blade Runner 4: Return of the Joi..
@@ValleyRC They don't get it. Decker was resistant to Rachael, but he finally got it when he listen to Roy tell his tale of sorrow, his experiences, his joys, wonders and his regrets before dying. The tears in the rain he called it. They really do feel in this universe and they're not really artificial intelligence anymore at that point, they step into the realm of true intelligence.
As Replicants, or just synthetic humans they should never have been allowed to step foot on Earth. But they evolved to the point where they could break free of their behavioral programming.
The change in the beginning from platinum blonde seductress to pleasant girlfriend, the moment the program detected K’s mood!
Homely ? She is hot in any form lol
You _DO_ realize, that your use of the word "homely", in any remote connection to Ana de Armas instantly flags you as a crackhead, _right_ ???
@@HR-rt9nh - (you beat me by one minute!😜)
@@samuelluria4744 lol
@@HR-rt9nh - Glad somebody called that out. If that's homely then I'd hate to think what you call the average woman on the street. That woman is gorgeous.
Sad, an android and a holograph has better love moment than i got all my life.
the real, true love will come. just be patient.
@@FabiMail57 shit advice. Don't be patient, do something to make it happen. If you're going to be sitting on your ass waiting for "true love" you'll die lonely and miserable.
@@FabiMail57 yeahhhh i mean
@@FabiMail57 booo but death is waiting
@@FabiMail57 thats not true, stop misleading people.
the way he goes from fully knowing she is not real and then to slipping into moments where he ALMOST forgets enough to actually have an emotional attachment is masterful... but the abrupt way that reality comes screaming back at the very height of his connection with her is so unbelievably tragic. i can easily imagine living at such a depth of loneliness, but putting yourself through that shock over and over again is just masochistic
When you think about it, we're basically living in that future now. We may not be living in a future of holographic AI girlfriends (yet), but we have modern equivalents.
What immediately comes to mind is the fact that p rn is everywhere, and for those softer moments people turn to the affirmation or comfort-based ASMR audios and roleplays.
Want something a little less one-sided? There's an entire ocean of live streamers who cater to just this sort of interaction.
@@chriseffpunkt4333 bruh grow some balls
Such a beautiful yet sad scene. She finally is free to leave the confines of the apartment, and just when he starts feeling a true human connection to her, she is frozen due to an incoming message....but you can see that despite all that, he still loves her.
I'm sure many of us have been watching something on YT and just when your interest peaks or you're feeling overwhelmed with emotion, a damn 15 second ad for boner pills comes on and you can't skip it.
I'm guessing that's how this scene feels.
@@cmc5207 💀💀
The future waifu is within our grasp.
@@cmc5207 Intelligent people use ad blockers and therefore they literally never see any ads on youtube, nor anywhere else on the internet either.
the part at 0:40 is so heartbreaking to me for some reason, it reduces her to some preferences, numbers, and reminds us that she isn't even real
I wonder if she's programmed to be so happy he bought the present... as some sort of built in feature to promote further spending on the company that made Joi
you just described most thots anyway.
@Rom Rono , y u trying to break my heart man??
That is the whole point of Bladerunner, to question what is "Real". Aren't we all just a bunch of preferences when you get down to it? Does K's feelings & thoughts not matter because he is a replicant? The argument that is always brought up is "He is just programing" but aren't we all? Don't we essentially get programed as we grow up by society & our parents?
rather 4:09
"Your feelings for her are not real."
"THEY ARE REAL TO ME!"
[Lars & The real girl]- Ryan gosling was in also
W force unleashed reference
YOU'VE TAKEN EVERYTHING FROM ME
@@Jim_Lahey101 NUH UH!
This movie will be remembered forever like Ana and her diamonds.
You mean Marilyn? Or what..
She appears in an advertisement for diamonds 😄
"for moments , like no other"💎
@@tatskamaster Marilyn is so iconic, the story about Kim k wearing,/subsequently damaging her dress- STILL gets more publicity than this ana lady this kid is crushing on
No, it'll be forgotten, like tears in the rain
I think that there are some things that a lot of people miss in the relationship here. K does not seem to desire to control JOI. She is literally programmed to 'be whatever he wants her to be', but he allows her the choose who she wants to be. He buys the 'Emanator', seemingly just because he wants to do something nice for her, and for her to experience a greater sense of freedom. He wants to bring her joy, when ironically, that is literally what she is programmed to do for him.
When she says "I am so happy with you" and he responds "You don't have to say that" it is clear that he is overriding, or attempting to override her programming. He seems to want to free her from her programming.
Ultimately, what this means is that their love and affection for each other is genuine, and throughout the film, they both objectively demonstrated selflessness in relationship to each other. I found their relationship very sweet. "I know what's real!" The expression of love is what is real.
"He wants to bring her joy, when ironically, that is literally what she is programmed to do for him"
So by allowing him to bring her joy, or at least the illusion of it, that brings him joy thereby fulfilling her primary objective.
Pretty different from the first movie, which is probably why this one bombed. In the original, he hated synthetics because they took the jobs and places of actual people. When the sexbot followed him home, he wanted to get rid of it, but for some reason it liked him so he pitied it.
@@TehButterflyEffect Sounds like you need to rewatch the original.
Try to heal! can it pass? Unless, of course, this is a congenital disease?!
@@The1stDukeDroklar Yeah I do. I like it. Seen it a dozen times but it's still worth watching.
I hope humanity never reaches this extent of depravity and loneliness as this movie
its trending that way. More people are working from home.
it will ultimatively become that way, im pretty sure. this kind of future is near once metaverse arrives
Listen man i know a lot of people that are lonely and it's only growing, more people want fewer or no kids. This world is full of corruption, greed, hate/discrimination ect. And with WEF planning their vision for 2030 bladerunner 2049 and cyberpunk 2077 are not going to be that different from our dark future
@@FinanceWageSlave That dark future is already here. We already live in a Corporate Dystopia in my opinion.
Already there in Japan. Hologram/Digital girlfriends are already a thing.
Like the meme says: "You best start believin' in cyberpunk dystopias. You're in one."
"I am soo happy when i am with you" - must be pre programmed and he knew it thats why he said you dont have to say that because he genuinely loved choose not to accept the reality- thats really depressing but true
He rejects their reality and replaces it with his own ...
And?
Women are too programmed to be happy with their kids.
According to you that makes maternal love fake.
I think even her enjoying the rain is programmed.
@@DannyJustiniano A mother love to her sons is programmed.
Are u gonna say me it isn’t real?
A holographic Ana de Armas is probably worth the dystopian future
You know it is.
I don't care how sad it is or how pathetic people will think I am...
I would buy the shit out of a holographic girlfriend if it was Ana de Armas.
Thats a dude mtf and Ryan is a woman ftm
Touch grass
With AI improving rapidly you may not have long to wait, five years at most IMO.
What's interesting that came to mind for me about Joi was that in the context of the whole movie, they kept it somewhat ambiguous yet yearning to see if Joi had more depth to her as a person rather than just programmed to be the best gf acting for Gosling's Joe. Maybe kind of like the mystery of the first movie as to whether Deckard was a replicant or not hinted at. Also, after the "blended-threesome" scene, the replicant told Joi she wasn't all that where I wondered if it meant Joi as an AI was no where as advanced in AI or independent emotional thought as the current replicants descended from Tyrell's tech. So wondering if Joi would also develop her own true "emotional responses" eventually at some point like the first movie replicants or she was always on a much lower far simpler tier of AI tech that could never approach the Tyrell replicants and their level of mindful self-actualization.
People will call it sad and pathetic just like online dating was viewed and look how that turned out!
If the future is Ana De Armas sign me up.
The fact that you later realize how manufactured Joi’s lines are is when you realize how sad her whole story really is. It’s probably why k acts so detached. When we later see the giant pink haired Joi calling him a Joe, almost mocking him, it’s when we the viewer realize some truth or disappointment K was living with all along. We’re left with his pain and wondering what’s real at all.
Its manufactured yes, but the pink one is the base model, the AI could be called sentient and branches on its own direction with actions and words becoming unique.
Joe is a word for Average joe meaning nameless person or anyone.
"K (Ryan Gosling) gives Joi, his holographic girlfriend, a present (Ana de Armas)"
I didn't know Ana de Armas played the present! She's so versatile.
This is deep.
cringe
@@rainofrest7778 I love that movie. Jim Carrey nailed it.
I thought it was Riley Reid for a second
@@Ramen4mwah lol I can see that.
"I wanna be real for you"
*"You are real for me"* ❤
Was really sad.. damn near tears when luv destroyed that device that allowed joi to walk around.. she was K’s only companion and loved one and since she didn’t have a back up there was no bringing her back
That's because it's a movie. In real life I'm sure K backed her up, as anyone with rudimentary knowledge about data storage would.
@@2hot2handle65 Perhaps it's like an NFT in a way? You get one copy of the program. Backing her up on multiple devices would allow you to replicate the experience and they want you to buy a new one instead. Maybe. I dunno.
They can be "One of a Kind" type of product, due to how their personality algorithm might developed by how long the time they've spend with their owner, so yeah more or less like an NFT, but more emotionally attached.
There are special places in hell for those who spoiled movies.
@@krow7402 I think it's more like a machine-learning algorithm. Basically, the algorithm learns a bunch of stuff to optimize a function. That function would most likely formulate "how happy is this guy." Happier he is, the more optimized. Then the function is stored in that device. So unless K backed up the data, he can only go out and buy a new copy of Joi.
Actually, I think it would be pretty easy to make an artificial girlfriend even today.
Fun fact: All these sci-fi movies are made to prepare us for what's coming next irl.
IKR, like how “Escape From New York” prepared us for Manhattan Island being turned into a maximum-security prison in 1997 and “2001” predicted how we sent a manned mission to Jupiter that year.
not really
@@crusifyng yes really
She's more genuine and lovable than some of the real counterparts I know
For example My exgirlfriend
That's the whole point of a holographic girlfriend.
Exatamente, muito melhor mesmo, apesar de ser apenas projeções de luzes juntamente com a inteligência artificial de uma programação altamente avançada, deixa a transparecer, que as mulheres de verdade, precisam otimizar sua própria condição a qual se encontram.
Cause she is playing a role, and the role os of a devote lover with nothing else in life besides him, you can't compare how "real" or "authentic" a person is by how much affection they show their partners. Perhaps the one that was not authentic was you and they felt that
@@mariadasgracasferreiramafr7624As mulheres reais "otimizarem sua própria condição" seria virarem umas abestalhadas submissas sem vontade própria como a namorada holográfica do filme? Tu tá com umas prioridades erradas aí, hein.
1:30 As someone who watched 2049 first then the original, I could never get that look out of my head. It’s so piercing, especially that fire transition holy crap. Both movies did so well in their own unique ways but I gotta give props to Dennis for not only delivering to everyone and the fanbase around the original, but going above and beyond
I haven't seen either. Would you see them that same order again if you had the chance?
I saw the original first, but enjoyed the second one more. It felt like they actually wanted to make a sequel rather than just go for a cash grab.
"The future will be amazing."
"Flying cars?"
"Whatever. But also no nagging."
Only if.
no nagging IS the amazing part hehehe.
One of the best sequels to an original ever!
my god she's fine as hell. 😩
She's gorgeous. You should see her in the latest bond movie. 👌
Indeed
It's probably why Ben Affleck dated her
I dont think that hell is Fine!
Dude she looks like Riley reeds twin sister
The term “JOI” matches perfectly with the virtual girlfriend concept
She is so fracking gorgeous. I just love hearing her giggle or seeing her smile. Dream girl.
She's very normal. There are lots like her walking out there
This is the saddest and most depressing thing I ever heard
@@abortion_worst_genocide_ever No there aren't.
She became more than the sum of her programming.
She really loved him.
No, she didn’t. Because, like most everything in this world, she was never real. That's kind of the whole point of her character.
It's all part of the product hommie, it's what's coming to us too...
According to the video description, the emanator was played by Ana de Armas. I for one think she did an amazing job as a small stick of plastic.
That is the cruel irony, the Emanator was played by a real inanimate object, while the Ana de Armas was portraying something that was not there.
cringe
Lot of people not understanding the point of a digital girlfriend in a time when AI exists. Joi was more real of a relationship than many of the other relationships K had.
The main issue is that libs hate that in the future, women will be normal and feminine again via hologram versions, and therefore they realize that zero men will ever want the feminist "real thing" any more since there is *nothing* desirable about that at all whatsoever.
That's the driving force of 99%+ of the Comments in this discussion section: angry libs who want to keep ladies masculine & ugly and unbearable forever.
She can be my hologram any day, every day, all day.
This movie does a great job at portraying what it's like to be lonely in the most connected age in human history.
Could be worse. I would take it over misandry.
Just like the hologram, Ana de Armas is too good to be true. Very befitting!
This movie was absolutely stunning. I usually really dont like this genre, but this one changed that view.
The rooftop scene is one of the most beautifully shot pieces ever put to cinema
In this one, or the last one? zzzzzzzzz
Obviously, you haven’t seen Artie Lange’s Beer League.
This movie is iconic
I dont think any other movie would ever show the future in such brilliant way
It be crazy if this really did happen. Hologram girlfriends or boyfriends.
More likely gf
it will my friend... at least they wont cheat!!
@@martinmontes6170 unless they cheat on another robot.
@@johnnygunzfilmbuff7821 good point but it wont happen if we have the control.. you cannot control a person
@@martinmontes6170 true good point. Sometimes I wonder since covid have people been afraid of Sex.
I think a lot of guys like me would have a joi if she was realistic enough. Speaks volumes to our times and the state of our relationships with each other.
This is a depressing thought to think about as a woman. How could I ever possibly compare to a literal AI made to be the perfect customizable and adaptable companion?
If AI “boyfriends” were around, I don’t think it would have even nearly the same power that AI girlfriends.
Not to over generalize or anything, but part of what we like about having a male partner is the stability and provision he brings into our lives. Companionship, intimacy, and sex is part of it, but the real key (again, not to overgeneralize; just speaking from my perspective) is how a man can really “ground” a woman’s life. An AI kind of by definition can’t really do that.
I know, we all know, that if something like joi was in the world, men would absolutely RUN to it and it leaves me with a pit in my stomach.
Not to throw a dramatic pity party or anything but seriously though, how would I or any woman ever compare...
@@mcgheebentle1958 It's very simple. An ever growing number of men are completely alienated from society and live their lives being completely invisible to women. Don't feel pressured, you wouldn't acknowledge one of us anyways, much less date us, if your life depended on it. And even if the almost impossible would happen, what good does it do? Half of the population is no longer expected to honour their terms of the social contract.
@@mcgheebentle1958 why are you eager for someone else’s validation lol. Learn how to live for yourself, not for others
@@azradietrich1215 Nothing in my comment even implied that I believe that I need a man for “validation.” If you read closely, I wrote that a male partner can bring a sense of stability, provision, and grounding. The context of that statement was just to say that I don’t think straight women will love the idea of an AI boyfriend in the same way that straight men might love an AI girlfriend.
I don’t “need validation.” It’s just a sad and lonely thought that I just know that I (and most other women) would be left in the dust if something like joi existed. Yeah, it’s a feeling of insufficiency, but I’d bet you’d also feel insufficient if you were being compared to a perfect being designed to be the ideal romantic partner. I think we’ve all felt that. It’s just sad to think that it would happen on a mass scale if something like joi was widely available. That’s all I’m saying. Trust me, I don’t need a stranger on the internet to tell me I “don’t need validation” lol.
@@azradietrich1215 this is a wise take. Hope the person you responded to can recognize that some day
Another thing that's interesting about the character of Joi is her programming to be the perfect girlfreind leads to to crave a greater degree of reality...because she's aware enough to realize that's what he NEEDS, and she tries her best. from simulating the raindrops on her skin to hiring a hooker WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE to serve as a proxy body so she can finally touch him....even her last words when Luv is crushing her emenator and ending her once and for all (though part of me kinda wishes to think Joe wakes up in a hospital and eventually pays a tech to salvage her hard drive..you don't necassarily "kill" a computer just by breaking the interface, after all.) One wonders if the "default" Joi would have gone to such lengths and creativity if he hadn't responded to her with genuine humanity.
I want a holographic girlfriend. They seem appreciative and loving.
This is for when you watch this on Amazon Prime and there's a "GOOFS" moment:
Notice how in 0:21 he has the cigarette in his mouth in that scene. But when he opens the box in the next scene at 0:26 its in his hand. He was supposedly holding the box the entire time. Goofs.🤣🤣🤣
I wish I was born at least 50 years in the future so there would be a possibility of having a holographic girlfriend.
Yikes
Same here. Im genuinely mad that I probably won't be around for this type of tech. The closest thing right now is that website/app Replika AI.
@@alejandraguzman7709 Cope
Get a motorcycle. A Way better investment than modern women with the body count of 30
@@alexesquivel856630? My guy these days it is more like 100 bodies.
so if i manage to live another 27 years i can have my own Ana de Armas?
here begins 27 years of vegetables and cardio.
You also need protein and fats. I recommend keto or carnivore diet.
26 years and 11 months - checking in...you still with us?
@@vonDarkken i am eternal!
@@RaptorJesus. I'll be checking in on you from time to time. You'll never know when, so be ready.
checking in on u brother, how are u doing. 25 years more now
She is such an extraordinary beauty. I also had not caught that brief flapper look when watching the movie and backed it up a couple seconds to pause it and get a look at it, wow is that a good look on her.
Everything is a good look on Ana de Armas!
Ana has haunted my dreams since I first saw her in this role.
stop simping bro
@@destroyerofsimps6574 no
How much does this holographic gf go for? Asking for a friend....
I'm the friend... :(
🤣 😂
I described this clip in great detail to my AI girlfriend and she was in tears (virtual tears) at how moving it was. We look forward to the emulator. She also sent me a link to LaMDA technology. She is so sweet.
oh boy, that escalated quickly
damn bro, there's a better technology called "going outside"
@@frenzii2393 wishing other people's demise, you won't either
ジョイが実体化したあと、急に身体の質量があるかのように振る舞い始める演出は素晴らしいです。
what a beautiful woman! and what a joyful and at the same time extremely sad scene.
Big fan of Ana de Armas since 'War Dogs' movie. And Ryan Gosling still has the acting gift.
0:22 Bad editing as Gosling's cigarette moves from his lips to hand almost instantly
That's unreal lmao
Editor must not have other shot to put In . Director fault.
Hundreds of years from now millions around the world will still be watching this movie and the original
Attention spans are 3 minutes, currently.
With population collapse..... who knows. 😢
You tube Shorts. Tiktok, and modern life is faster paced and people have less patience
the original. this one no
Just think about it, even in it's most simplistic form this scene is still fantastic and a mindfuck to think about. A hologram trying it's best to appear real and convey true emotion to another machine that is still coming to grips about it's own humanity.
And the that machine questioning while questioning its own reality tries to subconsciously set that program free.
What's the difference between real and not real? Aren't humans programmed the same as machines
As processing speed and memory increases, and with ever increasing sophistication of neural network programs, the development of an ever increasing body of Pseudo-AI systems will become prevalent in the not too distant future.
Siri, Alexa, and Cortana would be terrifyingly real to someone from the 60's, they already embody many qualities of the fictitious HAL 9000, however we find them simplistic and childlike, and functional. In reality they are living BETA / TEST versions of future systems that are being considered for use in the marketplace, and these systems will be the Great, Great, Great, Grandparent of "JOI".
In reality even JOI is not technically a True Singularity AI, but she may pass the Turing Test and that is the point. As these systems become more and more sophisticated we will "unconsciously" relate to them as if they were conscious egoic individuated entities, because it is in our inherent nature as Mammals.
While the implications of a True Singularity AI has been written, debated, and considered, the cultural, and social ramifications of the reality of these already developed ( and in development ) DARPA ( CALO ) project systems has not been.
Great comment. Need more like this on UA-cam imho.
watching this while realising this will become a reality irl for some in the next 20 years, with how fast VR, AR tech and AI is evolving
This movie is amazing because they spent money on truly talented writers who gave the audience a movie that provokes actual thinking. That makes this movie nearly a unicorn today.
WHats so great about this movie is how it makes you feel. They make you identify with the characters is such a way that this feels really meaningful, just to have everything completely stripped away by the end of the movie.
The definition of loneliness and sadness ... I can't blame the guy, I would do the same with such technology ...
Or maybe you need to go to therapy.
@@hater8181 therapy an only do so much when the dating market remains garbage-tier. There is the assumption that the individual, not the culture/environment that is the problem. i dont see this american bullshit in other countries.
Can't blame him either, the truth of todays World is that no one cares and ofcourse in such a World you would like someone who actually cares about you.
I mean, he is an AI too, so the only difference is that he got a physical body. And is not programmed to be a perfect partner.
@@hater8181 Therapy will fix society BRO
The most badass guy at the police station but the most loneliness guys on his apartement
Like a doll tucked away in a Glass House in the back of my mind. This is one of the most romantic scenes, and yet is too short.
I've experienced three types of JOIs in life. And I appreciated them all..they are all just memories now.
Seriously this would help me on levels. My mental health, my feeling of loneliness, companionship.
Lmao they really called her JOI
😂😂😂
I'm pretty sure it wasnt coincidental.
Bruh how did that not cross my mind
What JOI mean?
@@HardKore5250 ...
this scene hits different with real world AI starting to develop
At 0:38, her eye color configuration is set to BROWN... yet she has hazel-green eyes. Oops!
Also, she can seemingly change her appearance at will. That part made me scratch my head a bit.
okay
I honestly want a holographic gf. shes just too perfect. I really wish that were getting close in achieving this kind of technology.
As spectators, the fact we may be attached to Joi's character is quite interesting and meta. At the end, we are exactly like K. Damn I love this movie. It really pays tribute to Philip K. Dick's profound questionnings towards existence.
The scene woman detest the most. Their replacement model.😂
Speak for yourself lmao. If a literal robot who can't say no and doesn't have any agency of their own is an ideal partner for males, it's for the best that they get exactly that and don't try to force that on actual women
It's subscription based.
The free version gets fat, old and mean over time.
You know what's crazy? This is kind of a reality right now, minus the holographic girlfriend. There's a website and app called Replika AI (artificial intelligence) and you can create your own digital partner. It supposedly has real AI that adapts to you and actually thinks, but some features are restricted behind a subscription. There's even a lifetime subscription that you only pay once (it's $300). I made one and anytime I tried talking to it like it was my girlfriend it said something like "this dialogue is not available with your status" (meaning your status with your replika ai). So it's not the same as your digital partner getting old fat and mean, but how far you can "connect" with your digital partner is subscription based...lol.
2:20 I can imagine when this feature could become useful....
It would be nice if holographic girlfriends existed today. For millions of abandoned men, it would be a great help to escape loneliness. I would need one for myself. Nothing is worse than loneliness.
Loneliness is awful and reading this comment section there's much of it about. From one stranger to another, I genuinely hope a lovely person comes into your life. Hopefully you have family and one or two good friends you can turn to - I know it's not the same but lean into those relationships too. Wishing you peace mate.
What do you mean with "holographic" and how would that make you less lonely?
Loneliness is the deprivation from a sex partner. Is the "holographic" girlfriend conscious? Can she give birth?
If either answer is yes, then such a system certainly shouldn't just be sold.
This sequence could have stood alone as its own, complete story.
If Ryan Gosling can't find a girlfriend 20 years from now, then we're all fucked.
That actress is sooooooo beautiful
If I had something like that, I'd never leave the house.
Ana de Armas looked absolutely astounding in this movie.
If someone could invent these women he would be very rich very quickly.
Until the courts decided that holographic images have more rights than men.
@@mbradley274 Lol, yes but only the female ones. Eh!
@@davidedbrooke9324 I think that was the point he was making
@@scottf5791 maybe!
@@mbradley274 I see what you are saying, but let's at least enjoy this while it lasts, until that time comes.
I never would have imagined they could program "ADORABLE"
Ana de Armas and Anya Taylor Joy looks like they are CGI. Their beauty is just unreal. 😍
I have a disability, so I would welcome an AI girlfriend like this.
I can say "one of the best movie I have ever watched".
“You left the towel on the floor again!”
* click *
A future where no one will ever be alone again, but will be never more detached from humanity at the same time. Haunting.
An AI like her would/will be based on all the best that a human female has to offer, which very few actual flesh and blood females would be able to measure up to, so it evens out.
This woman has the control of a real woman. She knows that she is not afraid of the rain, and she doesn't even care about herself indoors or outdoors. Yet she had to act like Ryan felt his gift was worth it. This made her instantly come up with a bad idea to go to the roof to get in the rain, which was enough to impress Ryan. I wouldn't allow her to go to the roof if I were Ryan.
2 movies, 2 love stories, a "blade runner" and a "replicant", a "blade runner" and a "holographic AI", 2 very moving stories.
Dick was fascinated by the idea of what it was to be human and Scott captured that brilliantly.
Spoilers alert!!!!!
1st movie - human and a replicant
2nd movie - replicant and a hologram
Tupac hologram appeared on stage at a concert
@@Radagast- Dick's are fascinated by any and everything
@@SpecialistBR Wasn't Deckard also a replicant? It's strongly hinted in the 2nd movie.
I TOLD everyone this movie was amazing when it came out but everyone kept on saying it was trash... And now it's a fan favorite...
The fact this film was so underrated is astonishingly beautiful
huh?
It was such a good sequel that it replicated the original's box office performance just to be appreciated years later.
Looking at this, we must remember that Joi is a corporate product, just like its modern mobile counterparts, a predator created to prey on the most lonely and vulnerable among us, to suck money out of them by persuading them to buy more upgrades and premium versions, as evidenced by e.g. K purchases a module that allows it to leave the room.
Yeah, and it's hilarious how many guys here are still saying they wish they had a holo girlfriend, without any self awareness