Clarence Thomas stands alone, dissenting that domestic abusers have a right to deadly weapons
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- Опубліковано 4 лис 2024
- Nicolle Wallace with reaction to the decision from the Supreme Court’s ruling today regarding restricting domestic abusers from owning firearms and what it says about the lone dissenting justice, Clarence Thomas being in favor of violent, dangerous abusers having a legal right to a deadly weapon, in the name of the second amendment.
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Clarence Thomas should stand alone...IN SHAME.
Don't know why I ever expected more from Clarence...
very disappointed.
@@oldrrocrWhy because he believes people not convicted of a crime still have rights?
Remove Thomas from the court!
I’d like to agree, but Sam Alito has earned his place in the annals of abject disgrace, right next to Uncle Clarence!
@@ks9610 You are right. He sure does. 👎😡
He’s in debt. Been bought and paid for to the tune of 4 million dollars.
Are the following allegations?🤣🤣
Clarence "Affirmative Action" "Money Bags" "Money Train" "Kept Man" Thomas is rich. He does not officially own much. His assets are not in his name! Presidents cannot keep gifts. Why should this SCOTUS keep gifts from Harlan Crow, the Koch brothers or any other GOP (4 known) buyers that:
--Paid for his wedding and honeymoon
--Dallas Cowboys super bowl ring
--Mothers house and properties
--Nephews University tuition paid in full
--Leo Lenard payments to Ginny's law firm
--Horatio Alger Association of the wealthy that he is now an idolized member. Yes, he receives gifts from this association
--David Sokol is a helping hand
--Free flights on private jets, free super yacht trips and free stays at resorts. HE NEVER PAID FROM HIS SCOTUS salary
--Millions in gifts!!! Why?
--Ginger Holdings LLC?
--Thomas never repaid a “substantial portion” of a $267,230 loan he received from his "wealthy friend", Anthony Welters to pay off Thomas's luxury RV
--As of 2024-6-9; "money bags" Thomas has accepted and kept over $4.5M in gifts.
--Only tip of iceberg. There is more to come
The previous comments are allegations. 🙈🙊
Impeach Thomas
that requires a supermajority, so not going to happen anytime soon
Why is this fake judge still on the bench? His wife tells him what to do...
And, whomever is the highest bidder!!!
To be fair, most American wives run the checking and savings accounts in a marriage! And to be clear, I think CT shouldn’t be anywhere near the SCOTUS!
Your comment has absolutely no merit.
@@ClarityDeterminationsomeone's triggered 😂
The Republicans put him on the court for just this kind of reason.
What possible reason could someone have for allowing violent criminals to own guns?
Why am I even asking?
Not everyone with a restraining order is a criminal. Some are victims of someone else lying to get a bogus TRO. So now they get a double whammy and have their rights taken too.
Money
Money and population control.
The ones pushing for no regulations are not generally in the places where mass shootings occur. Their kids go to private schools.
REMEMBER Anita Hill? She was correct about what a despicable and reprehensible individual Clarence Thomas is.
And what did Joe Biden do about it back then HMMM HMMMMMMM
@@lillianmatthew3880 are you a Trump supporter? Res iipsa loquitor.
@@hollyweir7537 I'm asking do you remember what Joe did during the Anita Hill Trials Do YOU
@@hollyweir7537 You support her but only until Biden is involved is that how it is. Just like Democrat using the Black woman
@@lillianmatthew3880 Anita Hill was one of the reasons Biden was #4 on my top three list during the primaries.
Anita Hill correctly called him a "despicable and reprehensible person."
He is despicable, disgusting, and an embarrassment to the court!!
And, the nation & world!!!
@@jessepatterson1909 SOUNDS LIKE YOURS---THTS WAT MY DAD SAID.....................
Well said.
@@jessepatterson1909i can sense the confusion in you 😅😂 " a loser you are" said yoda
Is that because he believes people not convicted in a court of law still have human rights?
I find it deeply ironic that Justice Thomas is so committed to an "originalist" interpretation of the Constitution, when under the original intentions of the founders, he wouldn't have had any constitutional rights at all.
More "yassa massa" nonsense from Uncle Tom's Cabin.
I thought I was the only one that was looking at that factor.
Corrupt judges
Supreme Court? If you really want to be the highest court, you should have the highest standards in every way and not undermine everything at any given time!
He abused Anita Hill years ago so surely he relates to this. Monster!
Harlan Crow paid a lot of money for that dissention
How much?
I'm betting he is just a conduit for the other billionaires.
Ten per cent for the big guy Harlan Crow?
@b.t.2795 yea that's it I'm sure.
Stupid comment, but you're in good company.
At last count, it was around 4 million. @@jimmyjames6487
I wonder which all-expenses-paid vacation he got for this one 🤔
I swear, Clarence Thomas would sell the entire constitution in exchange for a new RV.
I doubt it. This decision alone must have come in at several millions.
Or tuition for his nephew or a house for his mother
He'd sell his own mother for a buck
Is it because he believes people not convicted of a crime still have rights?
@@Moose_King_05 You're saying he has 'a right' to sell the Constitution if he wants?
Alito needs to be removed an impeached
Thomas is a danger to this country 🇺🇸
Do you know what is?
@@ericklaus3972 what's it like being a troll? Knowing you will never be anything else....ever.
And to His loved ones I guess. Take Justice Thomas's guns away, please.
@@ericklaus3972He's not part of the deep state
I wonder why my D e e p. S t a t e
Comment got deleted .
Corrupt Clarence should be investigated and removed from his position.
It won't happen. For sum FREAK reason we talk about "accountability" but WHEN has that ever really happened? We're hypocrites unto ourselves as a nation ergo: this is what happens to us CLARENCE THOMAS
@@aimeethomas1688 everyone pounds their chest and says that things like this can't happen in America. Yet, here we are. And the next time this happens, the same people will say the same things, as if America is immune to massive corruption, or at least it gets investigated and stopped, when in reality, the reporting gets quiet and nothing happens.
Thomas must pay back favors to his many NRA overseers.
How is being the only dissent doing anybody a favor?
Not holding my breath for that answer...
Funny how so many people upvote nonsense like that.
That post makes ZERO sense, but it's calling him a "bad man" and that's what they like.
His owners.
@JonathanSterlingUSA It's patently obvious that his voting record on guns and the second ammendment is in lock step with the policies of the NRA and disregards the obvious need to protect people from others with a history of violence. No one in their right mind would agree with his decision.
Yeah sure he will. He's no different than Trump, he's exempt, privileged, entitled, sacrosanct etc., according to Clarence Thomas. 😮
That man, Rahimi, needs to be in prison. With Clarence. Thomas is a disgrace to his office.
Term limits, will help stop corruption.
what corruption el stoop ed
How far we have come from a well regulated militia.
Any ideas to curb govt corruption?
@@MegaLaidback. Same rules as the rest of us, for a start. Large bank deposits don’t go unnoticed. Sneeze and our credit report feels it.
How’d it escape anyone noticing…ProPublica saw it eight years before. My neighbors would notice if I sent postcards from Bali.
Rules for Thee, Not For Me. What was the second clue?
Yes but the term cannot be too short because law would change rapidly, causing instability.
Thomas is in the NRA's pocket....
Worry more about Europe and let United States citizens worry about the United States.
only 2 foreign misinformation bots disagree😂
@@muddywater4505
I still don't see your legitimate 3 pieces of American ID grandma.
@@WeAreGoingBackTo1776 Is he? What does the bill of rights tell us about domestic abusers' rights to carry a gun?
@@b.t.2795 Go get a hug from your Grandma Little One
Clarence Thomas stands for Nothing ..
Why? Because he doesn't agree with you? 😂
Clarence Thomas stood for all of us here in these forums, recently in Moody v Netchoice. He was BRILLIANT. Check out the oral argument. Guess which side Brandon was on...
@@babadook-qr6pvbecause he stand for nothing, troll.
@@AuroraColoradoUSAthe ignorance on the right is astounding.
"Clarence THOMAS stands for nothing ..." Except HIMSELF
Just in case anyone is still wondering, Clarence Thomas is horrible.
I am not wondering, calling him horrible is a compliment: HE is disgraceful, disgusting, abhorrent, and worthless.
but consistent. he does what he is paid to do by the highest bidder.
THOMAS NEEDS TO BE IMPEACHED. N CHARGED CRIMINALLY N JAILED FOR LIFE.
You are racist.
@@MrWhiskybreath MrWhiskybreath, the other one was @saltyshaker5069, who or what these bots/trolls expect gaining by saying people are racist? Some serious disturb and sick people. Whats the goal in these comments? Really sick.
Just in case y'all haven't figured it out yet, women don't matter here. We just don't.
Traditional women matter, but you Leftist women are insufferable narcissists.
Service animals have more rights than women, the way the christian right thinks it should be.
PS - NONE of us matter to them. Hello
When u say them. Who u talking about, blacks ? The only one who voted no is a black guy
If you're putting your faith in PFA's instead of your own ability and right to protect yourself, then you truly don't have the power and equality that you seek.
The Late Thurgood Marshall is rolling over in his grave. Anita Hill spoke TRUTH about this 🤡
Term limits for justices.
Until it happens to one of their own they won't understand.
They understand. They don't care.
They wouldn't care.
Exactly, totally agree.
*Impeach THOMAS!!!*
Why because he's doing his job and won't lock up trump?
@@babadook-qr6pv Because he's accepting bribes and hiding it.
He's a disgrace to his color.😭
@@babadook-qr6pvyr the enemy now..and a traitor..just like yr Putin fluffer, the orange who would be king..go sit down a play with yr little thing
@@babadook-qr6pv - *Your CULT sucks!!!*
The 2nd amendment was never meant as a license to free-for-all stockpiling and autonomous violence!! 🇺🇸
Yes it was.
@@keegan449 No, it literally wasn't. As soon as the regular Army was created, 2A should have been aboIished.
Well regulated.
@@Canard712 means individuals who are well trained, the people are the militia, and are expected to provide their own arms.
you love taking just a portion to make it mean what you want .
@@markburton5292uh, huh, that's why, before the NRA, so many cities kept their own Armories, stocked with arms in case of another 1812 invasion...... history-ignorant '0000'
Yes, get rid of corrupt and diabolical supreme court jurstices. This is exhausting. For people with C-PTSD, it is daily trauma. So sickening. Thank you for this video.
How does the convicted Steve Bannon get the Supreme Court to ask them for a delay from prison?
Any attorney is allowed to petition the Supreme Court if they lose in the Appeals Court. Doesn’t mean the Supreme Court has to take up his case.
people still have rights even people in prison. you have the right to appeal, also attorneys do exist for this reason.
If there is a constutional issue that needs to be addressed maybe. But almost few cases get that far.
Thomas decisions are based on his Donors. Taking Bribes is illegal but it's Who he is and what he does.
Listen, y'all NEED to do something about Clarence "Ruckus" Thomas.
He needs to go!
Why bc he follows the constitution 🤷♀️
The whole system does.
Thomas wants to keep his options open ... you know, for when he gets tired of Ginnie's rants.
🤣
I just basically said the same!
Some more money to add to the odd four million he already pockeded in the last couple of years.
Will he be impeached?
Most likely not
for what? can you even list any law that would qualify for him to be impeached?
you can't just impeach because you don't agree with them.
For what knowing how to read the 2nd Amendment lol all the other judges should be impeach for infringing on the 2nd Amendment no matter what their BS excuse is.
@@markburton5292 Incorrect, again.
@@jessesmith2922 You love all the gun crime, typical MAGA.
The fact that they made sure that it would only be temporary is disgusting.
Originalism dictates that Thomas is only 3/5 of a justice.
Exactly. He is so stupid that he does not comprehend how stupid he truly is.
Justice is not equal for all, the U.S. supreme court is officially for sale.
Get used to it the Bidens have been for sale for over 50 years.
So is Biden
Awe! Because your views aren't being upheld. News flash your opinion is like a fart in the wind.
I'd love a private jet at my disposal and a 40' luxury Prevost for good measure. 😎
How is shooting a domestic partner part of a well regulated militia?
Clarence Thomas stands alone, [inside Ginni's pocket]...
My head hurts. That is an inhuman statement to make, to actually state that guns have more rights than women. First abortion, now protection from maniacs with guns? What rights are right-wingers gonna take away from women next? The right to vote? The right to seek employment? The right _to breathe?_ Tell me what's next, GOP! I'm...terrified.
Is it because he believes people not convicted of a crime still have rights?
As a victim of domestic abuse, I would like to see Thomas go away. Let him go with that Crow guy that gifts him.
Saying the guns cannot be kept from one who is on an abuse violation,or protective order is the same as saying the mentality ill cannot be denied the 2nd amendment.
Not the same thing at all.
if you are talking about someone who has been convicted yes, that would be the same as someone who has been non-voluntarily committed to a mental institution.
but it is not the same as someone who has just been accused and not convicted.
Corrupt Thomas needs to be IMPEACHED
There is more to Constitution than the 2nd amendment. The fourteenth amendment section 2 says " No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." Equal protection under the Law. One persons rights don't cancels everyone else rights.
In addition, in my opinion,it's time to draft a new amendment to enshrine public safety in the Constitution. They say that gun safety is not explicitly stated in the Constitution, okay, let's put it in the Constitution. 38 states required for ratification, not easy but not impossible. 🗽
The framers intended the Constitution would grow with the nation. A new public safety amendment would protect against an overreaching SCOTUS trying to tumble over as much gun safety legislation as possible. Remember that Breun was an attempt to toss a law that had been in place in NYS for 100+ years. The bump stock mess attempts to damage the 100+ year prohibition on machine guns. Enough. 🗽
@@girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 - Well the last amendment attempt still hasn't passed. The ERA.
So, you are standing on the side of it’s OK for people to die because you want to argue semantics.
In some ways, the ERA is an unfinished story. The problem with the ERA is that they placed an expiration date on the ratification. Don't know if that's a typical move. Enough states did ratify, but not within the time frame. A legal challenge to the time frame could resolve the problem. Given the current challenge to safe reproductive healthcare, in addition to contraception, marriage equality, etc an equal rights amendment seems more necessary than ever. Challenging the time frame, or reintroducing a similar amendment draft with the additional information for contraception, IVF, reproductive healthcare, marriage equality could be an excellent way to enshrine all of the rights covered by the right to privacy. Ratification might be accomplished more quickly this time, especially if they/we do our homework on checking in with the states that already ratified the ERA.
The reality is that it has been too long since we last amended the Constitution. Perhaps we were lulled into a false sense of security by SCOTUS that were responsible and respected precedent. Now we seem to be in a brave new world.
A new amendment to enshrine public safety in the Constitution is overdue. Guns cannot have more rights than innocent people, school children, or abused women. Enough. Ratification is not impossible, just difficult. Given that ten states already ban AR 15, given that many states already have strong gun safety legislation, we might be closer to 38 than we think. We are the USA. We do difficult things all the time. We are afraid of ratification? Really? Constant gun carnage is the problem. Time to solve it.
Let him say that state ment. In front of woman. Who has be victim of domestic violence.
👍👍👍👎🙌
go say that to someone who has been wrongfully accused. Emotion should not play into this. due process should be required before you remove anyone's rights
An armed woman whos been victimised by domestic abuse.
@@markburton5292because gun violence never evokes any emotion ....
@@TypeOneg bad argument and you know it.
He probably dissented cz he owns a gun and is an abuser
As far as we know he hasn't flown the flags at his properties upside down.
@@b.t.2795
suggesting Samuel Alito should be telling his wife what to do is a really great idea, please keep it up...
@@AuroraColoradoUSA He's a weak beta then, eh?
@@gregc.5684
What country are you from, talking nobody?
@@AuroraColoradoUSA What, Ivan?
I believed Anita Hill. This lone dissent by Thomas is no surprise. Thomas is totally corrupt and needs to be taken off the bench.
Anita Hill told the true,
Yeah, Clarence, originalism. Let's go back to a free-for-all where nobody knew any better and few cared. Wrong again and as always.
The person in question isn’t a member of a well-regulated militia, so abuser or not, his right to bear arms can be abridged.
That sounds like Joe Biden's America.
@@nuplanner5345the People are the militia, it says it right there why are you dems so stupid and illiterate?
@@nuplanner5345
That's an incorrect reading of our Constitution. That preface made no such suggestion. The right is the right of THE PEOPLE.
@@thebilboshow168you keep spelling Don the con Trump wrong
Effing Thomas should NOT be a justice, but he and his wife should be in prison for a life of hard labor. Stain on America!
Clarence Thomas reminds me Dave Chappell's character Clayton Bigsby!
Joe Biden reminds me of C-3PO.
putin reminds me of gollum
@@swimminginthoughts you won't be saying that after trumps big loss in the debate next week.
trump reminds me of bobafet
@@swimminginthoughts
CPO's brain didn't freeze in 35 second increments grandma.
Hannibal Lecter and Joan Rivers agree.
Rich, coming out of a man who has been accused of abusing woman.
He needs to be investigated for corruption.
Corruption. At the highest level
No surprise that Thomas was a stand alone.
Samuel Alito does the laundry for his wife. 😜
Everyone agrees that Clarence Thomas has questionable moral character inherited from his parents.
Thomas is a monster!!🤮🤮🤮
okay Chief Justice Roberts....IT. IS. PAST. TIME. TO. DO. SOMETHING. ABOUT. THIS. MAN!
Roberts himself is a dirty Traitor Republican. They all are in the Republican Party.
its not originalism ITS INSANITY
Naturally now, people will ponder whether Clarence's vote has been influenced in some way and by whom. His tenure is an unacceptable challenge to the impartiality of SCOTUS.
Token judge allowed to write token objection to throw the “shall not be infringed” extremists a bone.
Clarence absolves himself from the need to actually think about the issues by saying if it isn’t spelled out in the Constitution we can’t do it.
He is worse than useless.
So, if the Constitution doesn't say we should have speed limits for how fast Dobbin can run down the road pulling the hay wagon, we can't have them for semi's either?
It's time to draft a new amendment to enshrine public safety in the Constitution. The Constitution was meant to grow with the nation. This new amendment should even be written as more than one sentence, so that it is not so frequently misinterpreted. Let's be clear about what is needed to improve gun safety in 2024 and moving forward.
Ratification requires 38 states. Not easy, but not impossible. Doing nothing about continuing gun carnage , that's impossible. 🗽
RIGHT. ON.!!
I know one woman personally who was killed by a former partner, who shot her with their infant baby between them in a car seat. He had just been released from prison. Who in the world thinks this man should have had a gun in the first place?
I also have a friend whose neighbor met with her ex-boyfriend because he wanted to “talk”. He shot her in the head and left her in her car. He had abused her so she left him but felt she needed to speak with him in person to emphasize it was over.
Statistically, men who have demonstrated any kind of abuse are a risk for killing their female partners. What kind of person sends women out there with this in mind?
I believe two women are killed everyday by their former or current partners. Check out the case of Dominique Dunne. Killed in 1982 by strangulation. Her former boyfriend got 6 years & was out in 2.5 years. That was not justice.
Thank you for speaking up about your personal knowledge. Also very sorry
that you have experienced the result of gun violence towards women in your
circle of friends.
Stupid acts by a Stupid Entitled Criminal Should get Him Removed ,,,you or I would BE in prison by N0w ?
Are that many domestic abuser Billionaire that we can't figure out who bought his vote on this issue? I mean it's a no-brainer decision in regards to public safety
A complete embarrassment on many levels
Is Thomas in cahoots with the gun industry, too?!!
Thomas is all in with his corruption and he doesn’t care who knows it, because he knows nothing can be done to him.
Thomas doesn’t want to have to pay for his upcoming vacation.
Thomas owe so many people so many favors until he doesn't know who "he" is as a man and certainly not as a supreme court justice!!! What a pity!!!
He should be removed from the supreme court anyway for all his crooked ways he uses the office to pad his own pockets.
VOTE STRAIGHT BLUE TICKET AND Demand ACCOUNTABILITY And ACTION
🗽💙🌊💙🌊🗽 Up and down the ballot.
Thomas is still reaking retribution for his confirmation process, what a vile, vile man.
And is deplorable despicable wife is in too,
A new amendment is not easy, 38 states required for ratification. Challenging, but not impossible. Doing nothing, that's impossible. 🗽
He is the living embodiment of Uncle Ruckus from Boondock Saints
and Uncle "TOM"
Impeach him NOW!
Next thing you know, the executives of the NRA will be paying for Thomas vacations, “as friends.”
Stop crying
Crying? He was on the losing side 9-1.
Thomas is a derelict
and deranged & damaged.
Who is MORE CORRUPT, Clarence Thomas or Eileen Cannon?
Joe Biden
@@commonsense3632give an example
99./. Of all the republicans
Clarence Thomas but he's had more experience. Eileen Cannon will sell out the Constitution every chance she gets.
Plus 99% of dems - they are all one don’t kid yourself
Thomas is always the one justice that you can count on to be the lone dissenter in any case dealing with civil rights, women and LGBT issues, gun issues. You name it he stands against it.
Rigidity?
Clarence’s “opinion” has nothing whatsoever to do with the Constitution.
I agree I am a centrist Republican and i have no problem with point counter point bring both sides together.
Thomas is an embarrassment to the Judical system of America. He should be IMPEACHED!!!
How long are we going to put up with this BS, drop him!
Thomas is BOUGHT AND PAID FOR. Why would he not back those who pay him to do their bidding.
He was "bought and paid for"?
How racist of you!
Kind of like the Bidens and Ukraine!!! 10% for the big guy!!!
Who’s bidding ? Sotomeyer didn’t recuse herself when her publisher’s case was before the court, why should I care about this???
Another reason why Thomas should never have been appointed to the Supreme Court.
Gotta fill those coffers.
How many dv abusers have used a guns that is registered to them.
Plenty, a good porttion of them are/were police.
More than half of female homicide victims are killed by a current or former male intimate partner,1 and 96% of murder-suicide victims are female.2 Firearms are used in more than 50% of these IPV-related homicides.3
It's like ALOT
none
@@Bruce-kx5ku Sorry. Wrong answer Thousands.
Complicated answer: not all states have laws requiring the surrender of firearms or adequate record keeping...so here are a few stats from what we do know: 4.5 million women per year are threatened by an intimate partner with a firearm. Nearly all those guns were bought and registered legally. One in eight people who try to legally purchase and register a firearm are turned down due to record of domestic violence. 1 in 8. Due to loopholes you can drive a truck through, the numbers may be much higher. And here is another fun data point people don't think.of...if a gun has been used to threaten a victim, those victims if not shot, incur more severe injuries from beatings .
So many examples of bad outcomes when DV offenders w TROs acquire firearms. Most states made it illegal for anyone under a TRO to posess firearms and for anyone to provide them to a person under TRO. What world is Thomas living in?
What you're saying is factually untrue. Just like crime in general it is something that only a minority of people do.
And remember getting a protective order is a well-known tactic used in things like the force necessary or not.
@@thefreestofspeech6951saying it is untrue doesn't make it so, where are the facts you claim? references? Because I know it to be a fact that in most states its unlawful for people under TRO for DV to possess firearms and its unlawful for people to provide firearms to persons under a TRO for DV.
@@einherjar8585 you are where in the States you are referencing due process happens first.
What was in front of the Supreme Court is like the red flag laws. The accusation is enough to have a person's weapons confiscated. Now if there's a legal case where both parties get to present their evidence and the person is found to be a threat and then lose there weapons no one would care.
Now according to government records because these are all public records. 90% of the TRO are given. 16% of that number mentions firearms. And according to government records 242 domestic violence incidents ended with death. That was going from April 2022 to March 2023. You need to subtract like 93 because those were suicides.
Looking at all the easily obtainable government information I would say the system was already working perfectly fine. There is no need to attack due process privileges that the citizens are supposed to enjoy.
Probably got another RV for his dissent.
Let’s get real………Thomas is only doing what Harlan Crow says for him to do!!
When did due process become a bad thing?
How much longer are Americans going to tolerate Clarabelle Thomas on the Supreme Court?
For LIFE Cope Harder
Ugh .... Corrupt and a lack of common sense.
The constitution is quite clear on the matter, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. 🤔🤔🤷♀️🤷♀️
REBALANCE THE COURT
By stacking it?
That man (thomas) lacks sense and judgment. What a disgrace!!
“Justice” is an oxymoron when referring to Clarence Thomas.
Uncle Clarence Thomas reminds me Uncle Toms Cabin.
I like how racist this comment is!
I thought lefties were against racism? Guess y'all's Jim crow roots are coming back
@@swimminginthoughts I like how accurate and correct it is. I don't care about whines about "racism" when reality is...reality.
Then you would know that Uncle Tom was the hero in that book, right?