The Problem With KIRK HAMMETTS Tone

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024

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  • @MarkHysteria
    @MarkHysteria Рік тому +30

    My favourite part of the rick beato´s kirk hammet interview was him playing in an "undisclosed value" magic guitar and a VERY expensive amp....and sounding like a 20$ pawnshop squier thru an early 2000s zoom 505 pedal.

    • @justin.hombach
      @justin.hombach  Рік тому +5

      😂😂😂🫣🫣

    • @5zazen
      @5zazen Рік тому +2

      i play squier fender strats. I have a left and right handed one.

    • @nickgertsson
      @nickgertsson Рік тому

      Your tone comes from your hands and fingers🎸

  • @5zazen
    @5zazen Рік тому +1

    Been playing since 1987. Continual frustration for years. This video has taught a concept no one ever taught. Did Satriani not teach Hammett because he didnt notice or didnt care? Did this vibrato develop from the pick width influence on his fretting hand(0.88 mm)?
    This training you provide is more valuable than anything ive ever seen. Its been one month since my picking technique has been corrected.
    Most techniques in guitar were not looked at, how to hold a pick, pick angle, and now vibrato by anyone ever. This is German precision no nonsense. Exactly why i learned German from '87 to '91 and why im fluent in it even now.
    Precision. Keep on with the videos and training.

    • @christianboddum8783
      @christianboddum8783 Рік тому

      I don't think Satriani could have taught him even if he tried, it's a feel thing IMO

  • @UroboricNate
    @UroboricNate Рік тому +1

    If i recall, during that jam video they played over a riff that Kirk brought to the table. Youd think between it being his riff and the chance to jam with one of his all time guitar heroes that hed bring his absolute A game....

  • @thediminished98
    @thediminished98 Місяць тому

    Is that not wrong to avoid copyright? Or is that how it sounds like without harmony/chords?

  • @yeserguitar
    @yeserguitar Рік тому +1

    It was definitely a good topic to talk about, thank you!

  • @bryantcochran5065
    @bryantcochran5065 Рік тому +2

    Let the note sing, then add the vibrato. Also be aware of only changing the pitch one third. That gives a beautiful, violin type of quality. Jimmy hendrix, Jeff beck, Eric. Clapton and Jimmy page are good players to listen to and watch for great vibrato techniques, in my opinion.

  • @granthelas4468
    @granthelas4468 Рік тому +1

    You want to see good buttery smooth vibrato look at the stuff Brandon Ellis does. Also some pre-bend work and pitch shifting can make you sound more professional when doing vibrato.

    • @justin.hombach
      @justin.hombach  Рік тому +2

      Not like I have mentioned Brendon Ellis in this video 🤷🏼‍♂️😂

  • @Nghilifa
    @Nghilifa Рік тому +2

    Kirk's sense of intonation, or lack of it thereof, is his biggest weak spot. He's also not a great improviser (few are, usually). His best solos are the ones that he worked out, like "One" and "The Unforgiven".
    As far as his vibrato goes, I don't think his own ears are critical enough, I'm sure some of his colleagues in Metallica have thought about mentioning it, but they've probably figured that it's not worth the hassle...
    Good video.

  • @Clemens.F.
    @Clemens.F. Рік тому

    Hi Justin,
    wenn man die Solos von Kirk nicht mehr mag, kann man ja einfach nochmal das St. Anger Album hören. 😂😂😂

  • @Fafa_Sauce
    @Fafa_Sauce Рік тому

    The one thing i always hated about kirk's playing was his vibrato, bro sounded really good on ride the lightning and master of puppets, but its onviously something he never really worked on.

  • @deHelli
    @deHelli Рік тому

    Eigentlich weiß das doch jeder das es Kirk nicht drauf hat! Aber sei vorsichtig sonst bekommt das James mit und Du musst dann bei Metallica den Job machen.

  • @kiko2129
    @kiko2129 Рік тому

    Ich fühle mich angesprochen xD ahhahhhaha XD tnx XD

  • @wurzlgaming
    @wurzlgaming Рік тому

    kannst ihm das nicht, dem Kirk, als Brief schreiben und statt dessen andere Inhalte bringen ? ich schätze deine Videos aber das mit dem Namen nennen und so is schon bissl toxisch.. oder erhoffst du dir dadurch mehr Reichweite ?

  • @svenreigen589
    @svenreigen589 Рік тому +1

    Nee,da bist Du eher falsch. Auf den alten Aufnahmen hat er einen super guten Tone und benutzt,noch 60 ties Style ein schnelles Vibrato oder auch gar keins,was ich sehr geil finde und auch tue.Das hat Satriani in den Achtzigern in Interviews auch an Hammett gelobt. Musikalische Intensität kannst Du mit Vibratoübungen erreichen oder dem ausschließlichen Focus darauf nicht definieren. Wie man sich auf professionelle Situationen vorbereitet, weiss der natürlich auch.Das scheint ein anderes künstlerisches Ding zu sein. Der ist sehr introvertiert, vielleicht hat er einfach keine Lust mehr.

    • @justin.hombach
      @justin.hombach  Рік тому +1

      Ich finde gerade bei sowas wie Fade to Black Intro hört man das sehr stark 🫣😬😬

    • @svenreigen589
      @svenreigen589 Рік тому

      @@justin.hombach Kill em all, Ride the lightning mit sehr geilem, v.a unaufdringlichem(!!) schnellen Vibrato oder g a r keinem ( wie Cream, Hendrix, Bluesgitarristen ). Ich finde moderne Vibrati mit grossem Umfang nur bei Malmsteen gut,sonst eher aufdringlich - gewollt.

    • @EL_DUDERIN0
      @EL_DUDERIN0 Рік тому

      Deutsch ist nicht meine Muttersprache, aber Ich stimme ein bisschen. "Thrash/speed metal" (kill em all, Ride the Lightning) ist vor allem "speed-picking". Im jähr 1981, schnelle drums, schnelle guitars war das wichtigste.

  • @ericajohnson7535
    @ericajohnson7535 Рік тому +3

    100% agree. Vibrato is really really crappy. And he looks so tense. He needs to take lessons.... His playing got worse. Same as Lars: needs lessons.

  • @klaush.1255
    @klaush.1255 9 місяців тому +1

    Kirk‘s vibrato really sucks and always did, even in the early days of Metallica, when his solos have been much better than now.

  • @CharlesEBusa
    @CharlesEBusa Рік тому +2

    Funny you should post this today, as my FB memories were throwing me back to a video I posted 3 years ago where I explained my approach to vibrato. The gist of it was "hit the pitch, wait, and shake dat axe."
    I like to think of it as if I were starting a fire. There is a gradual transition between the moment when the surface of the wood barely starts catching fire and the actual fire itself. If you were to blow on it too strongly, you'd be putting it out, so you actually want to wait just for the right moment.
    I also find myself experimenting with different types of vibrato. The classical one which lowers and raises the pitch in a more subtle way, the crazy Yngwie-ish/Zakk Wyldish one, the more traditional/"boomer" one, those last two only raise the pitch and bring it back to normal, slow and/or fast vibrato, matching the tempo, and so on and so forth. Sometimes I use the trem bar too, which in a way is closer to the classical one.
    Great video, as always, Justin! Thanks for sharing!

  • @Daneidorff
    @Daneidorff Рік тому +1

    Spot on. I love Metallica and i love Kirk - but his vibrato is hideous. James is A LOT better at this. I’ve always wondered why he never made Kirk practice these things..

  • @jonathonwearn1098
    @jonathonwearn1098 5 місяців тому

    Great video! I've been working on when and how much vibrato to use during Neal Schon's Stone In Love outro. I'm not trying to match his....just trying to sound good. Same way I treat backup vocals.

  • @jensloetzsch
    @jensloetzsch Рік тому +1

    Love this topic in general, i'm talking about this for years, a good Vibrato is extremely important ! I see this so many times, great guitarists with awesome technical skills and than a slow melody comes in and the Vibrato sounds horrible, not even a little bit intonated ! Nobody really cares (except for yourself) when you mess up one note in a super fast run but when the phrasing is bad, everyone will notice that ! I learned a lot about this from Michael Amott, I really love his Vibrato, very expressive and musical. Michael Schenker is one of his heroes, so no wonder why it sounds so good ;) Especially the combination Michael + Christopher Amott was great, their Vibratos matched very well together, the same now with him and Jeff Loomis.

    • @justin.hombach
      @justin.hombach  Рік тому +1

      100% agree!!! I love the Amot brothers… but Michael amott especially has such a tasty phrasing

    • @UroboricNate
      @UroboricNate Рік тому +2

      Alot of players skip over the fundementals and go straight for the metal riffs and shred licks, sometimes it REALLY shows when thats the case. With Kirk its weird, he grew up listening to alot of great classic rock and blues players with great vibrato, youd think hed pick up on that and apply it to his own playing.

  • @globalfatmas
    @globalfatmas Рік тому +1

    10:18 💩 🩳

  • @paulhilgerthekingpins4204
    @paulhilgerthekingpins4204 11 місяців тому

    I'd really like to read your Master Thesis

  • @georgivitkov3021
    @georgivitkov3021 Рік тому +1

    Wait, aren’t you Kirk Hammet?

  • @deHelli
    @deHelli Рік тому

    Kirk war viel zu kurz bei Joe als Schüler! Und geübt hat der faule .... auch nicht!😃

  • @RandyFricke
    @RandyFricke Рік тому

    I can't even listen to Metallica. The best thing they have going for them is their name.

  • @LoterraVVJ
    @LoterraVVJ Рік тому +3

    Bei Kirk kann man sehr gut sehen, dass die Leidenschaft zur Gitarre weg ist. Er fuscht seinen Job nur hin.

  • @monsterram6617
    @monsterram6617 Рік тому

    "Tone" is quite a charitable term for the noise Kirk's guitar makes.

  • @SixStringOverdose
    @SixStringOverdose Рік тому

    The subtitles constantly saying "rubato" just chuck me up :D

  • @svenreigen589
    @svenreigen589 Рік тому +1

    Gibt's von Dir auch eigenes künstlerisches Material,nicht nur Speedübungen und Nachgespieltes?

    • @justin.hombach
      @justin.hombach  Рік тому +2

      Klar, habe Alben rausgebracht ehemals mit meiner Prog Metal Band AeoS, mit dem Singer/Songwriter „Chris & Taylor“, mit der Rockband „Scherf & Band“, mit der Jazzrock Band „Kai Rüffer Fractal Band“, mit dem Kunstprojekt „H1sc0re“ und aktuell eben mit meiner Tech. Powermetal Band „Eternity’s End“ :)

    • @justin.hombach
      @justin.hombach  Рік тому +2

      Inklusive diversen Solo Gastbeiträgen bei verschiedenen Musikern.

  • @napesdrk1174
    @napesdrk1174 Рік тому

    Justin, yes, great question to master Joe Satch, he must havebseen what you, now us have seen......strange....blue crushing dream # 11.

  • @bluetopia42
    @bluetopia42 Рік тому +1

    Wie fühlt sich das eigentlich an, besser als viele mega berühmte Gitarristen zu sein?

    • @justin.hombach
      @justin.hombach  Рік тому +1

      Leider… um ehrlich zu sein, man Wertschätzt das sehr selten. Bzw. Es ist ja auch nicht so wichtig ob man „besser“ ist, bzw. wie definiert man das?
      Ich wünschte mir ich könnte manchmal mehr eine „Fuck it“ attitude an den Tag legen, wo es mir egal ist wie ich spiele. Aber Selbstreflektion führt auch viel zu eigener Kritik und man sieht oft nur das, wo man sich verbessern kann (und das ist noch sehr viel 🫣).

    • @MATTFORCE1000
      @MATTFORCE1000 Рік тому

      Ziemlich gut!

  • @cristianorentroia6607
    @cristianorentroia6607 Рік тому +1

    The fade to black intro solo has great melody but of course Kirk shits all over it in every live concert with that dying goat vibrato. Even in the studio version. How can he not be aware of it? i don't understand.

    • @svenreigen589
      @svenreigen589 Рік тому

      If you re playing Foxy Lady in that way you played 2month ago on your channel, its obvious,that you re not the guy to judge any rock guitarist anyway!

    • @cristianorentroia6607
      @cristianorentroia6607 Рік тому +2

      @@svenreigen589i’m not in Metallica and i can actually adapt my vibrato to what i’m playing. but i guess you are the right guy to judge rock players, right? 🤡 let’s assume i don’t know how to play. please tell me how i’m wrong about kirk. Im waiting.

    • @svenreigen589
      @svenreigen589 Рік тому

      @@cristianorentroia6607 I gave you 10 Seconds to impress me and I found this: Hammett loves Hendrix and so I checked Out your Version of Foxy Lady Solo on your YTChannel to See your competence in this Style: At First: Tune down a half step. You cant reach the real Feeling without doing this.To Play the rhythmfigure right you have to do the Bassline with your thumb, so then you can do the B chord Things only with your third Finger,what allows you to do Vibrato with it.0.08/0.13 never Heard Hendrix or other Bluesguys Bending the third to the fourth;0.10 dont shred here,its Out of Style,also to bend a fifth into a flat sixth into a blues Style tune. 0.15 - 0.16 playing in the aeolian and then changing fast into the phrygian Mode is complete out of Style,Nether Hendrix Nor Hammett ever played this was. Should I Go farther than 0.10sec?

    • @svenreigen589
      @svenreigen589 Рік тому

      @@cristianorentroia6607 I gave you 10 Seconds to impress me and I found this: Hammett loves Hendrix and so I checked Out your Version of Foxy Lady Solo on your YTChannel to See your competence in this Style: At First: Tune down a half step. You cant reach the real Feeling without doing this.To Play the rhythmfigure right you have to do the Bassline with your thumb, so then you can do the B chord Things only with your third Finger,what allows you to do Vibrato with it.0.08/0.13 never Heard Hendrix or other Bluesguys Bending the third to the fourth;0.10 dont shred here,its Out of Style,also to bend a fifth into a flat sixth into a blues Style tune. 0.15 - 0.16 playing in the aeolian and then changing fast into the phrygian Mode is complete out of Style,Nether Hendrix Nor Hammett ever played this was. Should I Go farther than 0.10sec?

    • @cristianorentroia6607
      @cristianorentroia6607 Рік тому +2

      @@svenreigen589 😂😂 why would i play it in blues style if i’m not a blues player. It is hilarious that you think those rules have to be followed. If i improvise over a backing track i will do whatever i want as i am a musician with my own thoughts and way of playing. I dont care what Hendrix did. I am me and am not interested in emulating a style. Yes there are some bad passages in that video as it is one take improvisation. Still you didnt answer my question. Tell me why my comment on kirk vibrato on fade to black is incorrect. Do you realize i could have never have touched an instrument and still be right, correct? Please provide an argument.

  • @robvanbaan4467
    @robvanbaan4467 Рік тому

    Gutes Video.
    Den Gedanken hatte ich schon das erste mal, als ich den Jam gesehen habe. Der Kontrast könnte allerdings kaum größer sein, da Schenker einen nahezu perfekten und trotzdem einzigartigen Sound entwickelt hat.

  • @jamesyoung3006
    @jamesyoung3006 Рік тому

    Nice job.

  • @kinglord5163
    @kinglord5163 Рік тому

    After this video I listened on youtube to the master of puppets solo isolated track of Kirk and some others to confirm. But the sheer aggresiveness and "violence" in his playing and picking was amazing in it's own right and it didnt sound wrong to me (in master of puppets atleast). What do you think about that Justin? Kirk is very inconsistent and gradually got worse over the years and doesnt he also have arthritis? Not defending him but just saying

    • @justin.hombach
      @justin.hombach  Рік тому

      I get your point, but why did you listen to the master of puppets solo? Where there is nearly no note with vibrato on it :D (When you mean the first solo, that is James not Kirk)

    • @kinglord5163
      @kinglord5163 Рік тому

      @@justin.hombach You are right. I meant Kirks solo of master of puppets, it was the first I thought of. I listened to some more isoloted solos and focused on his vibrato and it definitely is weak and could be objectively better. I think he's way sloppier live but what else is there to objectively criticise? Iam learning as well

  • @gustavoyanez2182
    @gustavoyanez2182 Рік тому

    Btw i also don't like kirk, but I have always wondered, why do not accomplished musicians are always much more famous and succesful in their music careers? It's a total mistery!! Does it mean that being more complex is not liked by mormies? Even if it arguably sounds better

    • @gustavoyanez2182
      @gustavoyanez2182 Рік тому

      Also to complement this previous post, there are many more examples like Munky or even slash. Why are they so succesful while technically limited

    • @gustavoyanez2182
      @gustavoyanez2182 Рік тому

      11:22 nobody has mentiones how much time was he under Satriani's lessons, maybe it was just a couple of sessions

  • @EL_DUDERIN0
    @EL_DUDERIN0 Рік тому

    Great video Justin! I agree 100%! In fact, I have recently invoked a great tip you reminded us of: "Stay out of the "danger zone" when bending! I cal it the "dead duck" sound. Squawk. Ouch. Thanks for the reminder!
    You are right about Kirk! The thing that is weird about Kirk's playing is that he can bend the strings and double stop pretty well when doing it fast (or at least he could in the 80's). He just has a deleted vibrato.
    Look at other guitarists who trained with Satriani like Alex Skolnick and you will see some sweet, very nice vibrato techniques, so maybe Kirk just has a bad ear? Is that possible?
    Finally, I'm really glad you mentioned Brandon Ellis, he is one of my guitar teachers right now. (Along with yourself for some of the speed and pick stuff!). I am working on a few of his solos, have been for about 6 months now, and the biggest challenge is getting my finger callouses up to par. As we speak, I am in pain. Very bad pain. My fingers hurt. Maybe tomorrow I will resume. Do you have any advice for building callouses?
    I will reiterate - "Dawn of Rats". This is my vibrato challenge to you, sir. I'm not sure. It's not easy. I haven't ever seen anyone get close.
    P.S., a piece of advice I learned from Brandon is that you don't always have to "match" the note you are vibrato-ing to, although this is a technique. I mean, the vibrato doesn't always have to be in key, and 1 and a half note vibratos can sound amazing even out of scale. Another technique is to bend "up" a note and then vibrato a whole note up and down. Yowch that sounds beautiful but is painful.
    Great stuff though Justin keep giving us the content love it!

    • @5zazen
      @5zazen Рік тому

      Sorry couldnt help but comment. If your left hand hurts why not practice left handed guitar some?

    • @EL_DUDERIN0
      @EL_DUDERIN0 Рік тому

      @@5zazen Hmm.. interesting idea.

  • @MrdRtz82
    @MrdRtz82 Рік тому +1

    Or maybe Kirk's style comes from this punk/thrash/nwobhm mix where the attitude was everything, not some fancy vibratos. Anyways, great video! I subscribe!