nanoVNA - Alligator Clip Leads vs. VNA Test Fixture Kit - Measuring Inductors & Capacitors

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  • Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
  • Does using a more formal test fixture with the nanoVNA result in better measurements when testing inductors and capacitors to confirm their nominal values?
    Test Board Kit - a.aliexpress.com/_mr2a0U6
    0:00 Introduction
    3:58 Full calibration of the nanoVNA
    6:13 Hooking up the test fixture
    6:37 Measuring the inductor value
    8:40 Why measure at + and - 90 degrees on the smith chart?
    10:40 Measuring the capacitor value
    12:38 Testing the measurement accuracy
    14:32 Building the parallel resonant circuit
    15:10 Setting up the nanoVNA to measure the resonant frequency
    16:29 Measuring the resonant frequency
    18:34 Examining the results
    20:29 Hooking up the alligator test leads and calibrating the nanoVNA
    22:39 Measuring the inductor value using alligator leads
    23:49 Measuring the capacitor value using alligator leads
    24:56 Comparison of results and conclusion
    VE6WGM (VE6WO)
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  • @acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE
    @acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE 2 роки тому +4

    As a beginner in electronics, I found this fascinating and was able to to follow due to your clear and relaxed presentation style. Thank-you.

    • @ve6wo
      @ve6wo  Рік тому

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @rfburns3472
    @rfburns3472 5 місяців тому +2

    Very nice demo. I was about to do the same test. One thing I noticed, and it may be minor, is that you held onto the back allegator lead which may have induced some hand capacity in the measurement. Even though it was the black shielded allegator clip it still could have some effect.

  • @intotheblue50
    @intotheblue50 7 місяців тому +1

    A lovely clear presentation style, showing your comparison project which is informative and very enjoyable, thank you.

  • @keyboarderror1
    @keyboarderror1 Рік тому +2

    I soldered a couple of SMA connectors to Dupont pin headers for an easy way to use them with a breadboard. It works pretty well, and you can use the split sides of the board for through connections. If you don't have a dedicated test fixture handy.

    • @ve6wo
      @ve6wo  Рік тому +1

      Thank you

  • @enriquea.wembagher5537
    @enriquea.wembagher5537 2 роки тому +1

    Gregg ...Excellent work and demostration !!!! Vy 73

  • @ka2pbo
    @ka2pbo 9 місяців тому +1

    That was fantastic! Great explanation the whole way. I agree; for ham radio and electronics experiment stuff, the clip leads are just fine. I have a test fixture but always go to the clip leads .As long as you calibrate each and every time, you're good to go. 73 and Thanks

  • @DmitryAvsioukov
    @DmitryAvsioukov Рік тому +5

    When solving back for L you've actually solved it from calculated frequency, not measured one. No surprise you've got your 14.8uH back :)

    • @ve6wo
      @ve6wo  Рік тому +1

      Yes, I’m not entirely happy with that part of my video. Looking back at it, I think I could have presented what I was trying to say more clearly.

  • @FUNKLABOR_DL1LEP
    @FUNKLABOR_DL1LEP 3 місяці тому +2

    4:41 Hi, great job! I saw You turning the SMA connector into the SMA nut, You should always turn the nut and not the adapter. if You turning the Adapter, it is rotating in the connector, this will damage it over Time. 73 de DL1LEP

    • @ve6wo
      @ve6wo  2 місяці тому +1

      You are correct. Since this video was made I have started to support the coax with one hand to allow the nut to rotate while preventing the center pin from rotating.

  • @Sethz71
    @Sethz71 2 роки тому

    Big fan, keep it up Gregg!

  • @TheSmokinApe
    @TheSmokinApe 2 роки тому +1

    Well done, I really enjoyed this video 👍

    • @ve6wo
      @ve6wo  Рік тому

      Thank you :-)

  • @JimSky
    @JimSky 3 місяці тому +3

    Seems like the test fixture should be used in the calibration of the VNA.

  • @jwrtiger
    @jwrtiger 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice video, thanks!

  • @geokuf9679
    @geokuf9679 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent, thank you, 73

  • @BobMellor1954
    @BobMellor1954 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this, very interesting, just subscribed 73 Bob

    • @ve6wo
      @ve6wo  Рік тому

      Thanks for the sub!

  • @MichaelPechner
    @MichaelPechner 6 місяців тому +1

    frm what I can tell the only pins connected to out si column 7 rowsc,d,e. B ut you connected the inductor to row A. i assume you modified your board?

  • @JPEE2012
    @JPEE2012 Рік тому +2

    I would have thought that the calibration for the alligator clip would be more accurate, because you calibrated it to the tip of those. With the test board, you did not calibrate it inline with calibration procedure- it was left out. That board could affect the capacitance and inductance, right?

    • @ve6wo
      @ve6wo  Рік тому +2

      Yes, however, at the wavelengths we are using to make these measurements this small change in length means very little to the resulting measurement. At higher frequencies, this becomes much more critical.

  • @galileo_rs
    @galileo_rs Рік тому +2

    You are measuring the fixture and the DUT, calibrate using the fixture connected. When you adjusted the stimulus you forced the VNA to do interpolation, not that important in this case but generally a bad practice.

    • @ve6wo
      @ve6wo  Рік тому +1

      Yes, but at these low frequencies, I challenge you to do the same test twice, using the correct method and then using the ‘bad practice’ method… and tell me if you see any kind of significant difference.
      ;-)

    • @galileo_rs
      @galileo_rs Рік тому +2

      @@ve6wo Generally true but it depends on the DUT. For example try measuring a 10K resistor using a "S21 method" and comparing the results that you get with an ideal model (SimSmith is great for that). For example, place the test jig directly at port 2 VS the usual way of using a coax pigtail. Now, does any of that matter for amateur radio usage, not really but it is good to know how to do it properly and it is a fun experiment.

    • @ve6wo
      @ve6wo  Рік тому +1

      @@galileo_rs I agree

    • @galileo_rs
      @galileo_rs Рік тому

      @@ve6wo 73 YT3ART

  • @renaat9829
    @renaat9829 27 днів тому

    👍👍👍👍😊😊😊😊