Holy f*cking shit, you are a Sorcerer! This Maschine’s are awesome, I had a Roland VS2000 CD, the last in line, but the only one with USB! I install one VS8F-2 Board and one VS8F-3 Board into the VS2000 with all 10 released Plugins for the VS8F-3 Board! I sell the Maschine for 8 or 10 Years …today I must say, I wish it back, really! The VS2000 have a great Recording Sound, ok only in 44.1Khz but 16 and 24Bit possible. The VS8F-3 Plug-ins were awesome, the Soundblender Soundtoys are totally once, you get with that sounds out your guitar, you never heard them before in your life, and that‘s Sounds were Great! Nice Job Man …puha … I never can do that, I believe that such Maschine’s you have there, are really really good today, and I think no one else have a VS 2400 like you have…. Cool, really really nice Job! Thanks for sharing this!
hello, mine burned the ci of the source the first one after the entrance of the energy..it doesn't have the reference anymore,, if you can send me the photo of the ci, or the reference would be grateful, here in Brazil it's very complicated to fix
Amazing work. Is there anyway to recover lost music in the hard drives for the 2400 ? Had to reset my workstation and lost all the music in the hard drives. Please help if its possible to retrieve my catalog. Thank you.
Sorry for the long answer. What have you done, have you replaced the old OS firmware with a new one? Or something else? With such manipulations, the machine may not see disks with previous projects, but the data on them is still stored, unless you have started the formatting procedure. If you have formatted, then in this case you only need the guys who are engaged in data recovery on hard drives. Did you manage to solve the problem?
Вот ты заморочился мой 2480 тоже нуждается в замене. Но у него недостаток - пластиковый корпус. Кстати совсем не обязательно делать экранированый провод до файдеров, там все равно перед АЦП стоит RC цепь.
WOW this is a pro video, you put alot of work into sharing this with us! Thank you... I'm sure you will get alot more views if you update the thumbnail.
Thanks! This is a video with its own narrow specifics, so I don’t expect big views. Regarding the thumbnail, I do not even know what can be thought up brighter or better, I just left miniature which youtube offers automatically when i loading video. But I will try at leisure, thanks!
Hi Anthony, are you familiar with the Roland VS-2480? Can a fader replacement be done on that machine similar to the one in this video? The only thing is that the upper case housing on the 2480 is plastic not metal
Hi Connor! Good question ... Unfortunately, I haven't had any experience reworking a 2480 machine yet. Once upon a time (seems to be in 2004) I opened it to replace the battery (this was 2480 machine of my friend's) and we didn't take it disassembly completely to get to the faders, so I don't know, how is it done there and is there a suitable size in chassis for installing long faders. If you are "with hands" and have technical experience, then you yourself will be able to disassemble the car to clarify this point, and it will be clearer for you there. In addition, you can take a few photos and put them, for example, on Google Photos and give me a link...
@@Anthony_Scott_Studioservice Thanks for your reply. I will look into that. Before I do, I will dig up data by others who have done fader replacements - all of which were done using like-for-like stock parts, which only serve to postpone the inevitable issues, briefly. The fader board in that model is notorious for failure, as are the CD drives. I would like to replace all the faders, exchange the CD for a DVD read/write (Panasonic), replace the battery, and mod the fan to install a switch at the rear panel to enable it to be turned off during recording and back on as required. Also, the IDE hard drive can be replaced with an SSD (Samsung Evo) further reducing heat build up. For an old machine, there may be life in the old dog yet. The preamps are great as are the stock EQ's and Compression. I would love to figure out a way to include a USB port for mulittrack transfer to a PC. Wishful thinking.
@@connorpower Well, if so, then you have a lot of work ahead of you. Write if you have any questions (maybe I can help you with something), and good luck. Yes, ... regarding the transfer of tracks to a computer, there is also a Presonus V-Fire converter. By the way, it would be a great solution if someone made a CD-RW drive emulator with a USB connector!
Hello! Are you interested in the model of the original faders or the ones I used during the upgrade? These faders in the video are Alps, RSA0N11 series, and if I remember correctly a more complete number, it is RSA0N11M9A04. The channel and master faders are all exactly the same. Stereo control is done on the motherboard, receiving a DC signal from a single ("mono") fader.
The faders that I have used are linear (genuine faders are also linear). These are the so-called "digital faders" or "DC faders" and are used in many digital mixing applications. Their carbon track is connected to DC supply (5...9V), and the sliding contact transfers the voltage change to the motherboard to the microcontroller. And the microcontroller receives this voltage and controls the audio level change according to the "audio curve" embedded in it, in simple terms.
Hi Anthony. Really nice work! Im wondering if you can help me. I have a 2480 and some of the functions stopped working. Seems more to the right side of the control panel. Some of the buttons dont light up or work. Someone mentioned a power supply issue. Any idea what you think might be causing this problem. Play works, faders ect. Thank you!
Hi Wayne! Sorry, I answered late. Problems can be, yes, with the power supplied to the control board, and the contacts of the ribbon cables can also oxidize. But you need to check the power in the assembled and turned on machine when the control board is connected with motherboard and PSU. Have you solved the problem yet?
@@Anthony_Scott_Studioservice Thanks Anthony. I have not done anything yet. I didn't know about the ribbon cables. But I will look into your suggestions. That seems to be the theme!!! Thank you very much.
Hi Anthony, hope you're well. Are you a hobbyist or a professional audio expert that works for a company(s)? Very interesting what you're doing. Hard to believe you don't do something similar along these lines as a pro. Thanks for posting...
Hi John, thanks for your comment and rating. I am not a professional or an expert working for an audio equipment company. My main activity is studio production. The moment that I am engaged in the repair and various upgrades and maintenance of studio equipment is, one might say, a professional hobby. Since from the very beginning I always had to fix or repair the equipment myself (in my studio, and then other people), including aligning and repairing analog tape recorders, cleaning microphone capsules and much more ...
Amazing video brother cheers, please help me, i need to know where i can get these accessories of the Roland VS 2400 CD, cheers Anthony. much appreciated.
Hello bro, thank you! No special accessories Roland here in the video there. The faders 100mm are not original, they are used in the Yamaha mixing consoles. Panels - this is my custom, which I did on order at the factory. One thing that is original is the new rotary encoders )) I once bought 10 pieces on Ebay...
Thank you Anthony, was wondering if you could brief me as to where i can get th eoriginal faders of the vs 2400 cd, would be much appreciated bro, thanks n cheers
Note that the faders in the 2400 and 2480 are different. You need faders for VS-2480 (Part # 02454445 motor fader EVA NQA CA1 B14) x 17 pcs. bro you posted this message on this page was wondering if you could help me out with the part number for the vs 2400 cd faders, thanks
Hello Anthony, good day I loved your video was very interesting, I would like to know if you know how we can convert the backups of VS 2400 which is in RDAC format to wave without having to export from VS to cd ?, thank you Ryldo
Hello Rildo, thanks! For 2400 machines, I know that there are two methods. One of them is software, if this page and links work, then you can try. www.thegoodlibrary.com/VSWaveExport.php There it requires to install special software on desktop PC and then removing HDD from 2400 and connection it to PC. But I have never try it. Another method - it's real time 8-tracks recordind into PC DAW via R-bus interface using Presonus V-Fire interface or the Roland RPC-1 interface card.
@@Anthony_Scott_Studioservice After sitting a couple of years, at power up, the video screen is lighted with no data. There is a 'grunt' from the CD. The hard drive does not power up. The drive it self and the data on the drive is good. During that interval, there was a power surge in my house affecting TV's and other gear. Other equipment in the studio on the same circuit was not affected. Thank you in advance for your interest.
@@wofpac Oops ... Paul, sorry for the long answer! If you have a power surge occured, it could damage the power supply in the first place. The likelihood of damage to components on the motherboard is quite small, but it also exists. If you have a familiar electronics technician nearby, you could check the voltages at the PSU output together with him for a start. As well as voltages at some points on the motherboard.
Hello! I use StarTech adapters after upgrade: www.startech.com/en-us/hdd/ide2sat25 But before that, different adapters bought on Aliexpress worked there. Now I gave one of them to my friend, it works great in his 2400 machine.
Amazing job on your Vs2400s! I have just bought one of these second hand and 3 of its faders are not working properly. The motors are working but these 3 faders doesn't move as supposed, moving to the wrong position and eventually getting stuck at the bottom or the top. As finding replacement faders for the va2400 seems almost impossible, I've being thinking of trying to fix those faulty ones instead of replacing them... Do you think it would be possible to fix a fader instead of simply replacing it? I have a resin 3d printer so I'd be able to print small gears or something if needed... If the motor is the source of problem, maybe I could get another motorized (alps maybe?) fader and use only it's dc motor to repair vs2400s original one... What do you think?
Thanks Cesar! When a fader in a VS machine behaves in a similar way, as you write, it means that it breaks down and cannot be repaired and restored, alas. What's going on there in the VS faders, I'll tell you. The VS faders sliding contact that rides on the carbon track is made of soft metal, and in addition, the track surface in the faders is quite abrasive (as opposed to the carbon in the large professional console faders). Therefore, after 2-3 years of intensive work, especially with projects where you write a lot of automation and move the faders, the sliding metal contact is first grinded off, and its rounded tip breaks off. At this moment, nothing changes in the operation of the machine, and you work further without suspecting anything. At this time, the broken tip of the contact, which now has a sharp end, grinds furrows in the carbon, and when the carbon is erased from the bakelite board, the machine loses its fader position, and that's it, goodbye. It is almost impossible to restore it in a service center or a home workshop, since carbon in the form of a specially selected liquid composition is applied at the factory and dries in an oven. You must unsolder the worn faders from PCB, open it, and the described defect in the form of grooves in the carbon track will probably already be there. To see this better, you can illuminate the bakelite board with carbon with a lamp, directing the light from the back so that it passes through the board. The motors and mechanics in the faders are more reliable and can last a long time.
@@zerorusher Oh, and I already gave you the answer to the previous question :) If I understood correctly, then you made a level indicator similar to Roland MB-24?
Yes, It is! Vs sends polyphonic signals to midi channel 16. Notes 0 to 23 are channels 1 to 24 and the velocity (0 to 127) indicates the track level. It's pretty simple to implement with arduíno receiving the midi notes and lightening the led strips accordingly
I wonder if someone with deeper electronic knowledge found reverse engineer Dif AT so it would be possible to create an arduino/raspberry based ADAT/RBUS converter
Whether this upgrade will make practical sense for you, if for example you live in another country, and only the cost of delivery to me in Russia and back to you can cost more than $ 200-350 (this should be clarified and depends on the type of delivery, insurance and country) plus works and some parts & matreials. I do not only VS things, but also studio equipment in general (mixers/consoles, tape machines and other gear), and for all the time I did this way only 2 VS here for guys in our country, plus 2 my VS. The guys from other countries ask about too, but again, only one shipping cost in both directions scares away from such an upgrade. Considering that in the end, total expenses can be more expensive than such things are worth today on Ebay. Thanks!
Are the original faders for the vs-2400 still available from Roland Canada? What was your reasoning to use another brand fader? Were they direct replacements as far as resistance, motor voltage and amperage? I love how you made them replaceable from the top.
Thanks for the questions. The original Panasonic faders are very difficult to obtain today, they are almost gone, unless you can ask them directly at Roland's Japanese head office by writing to their service department. I was looking for replacement faders that would be fairly reliable, inexpensive, with suitable dimensions for installation and sold in sufficient quantities in many places today. Therefore, the choice fell on these Alps. This is a direct replacement for resistance, however their motors need a slightly higher supply voltage of 8 volts instead of 5 (which entailed installing a separate power supply inside the 2400 machine) and a total current of at least 1.5 - 2 amps. The mod with a removable panel makes it possible to quickly and easily replace a failed or worn fader, for example, during a session or remote recording (just having a few spare pre-wired faders and a hex 2mm screwdriver in bag).
Hi Man, I am almost blind and I cannot see what you have done to your machine but I suppose from the posts below that you have changed the hard drive. I wonder if it is possible to change the screen and put a colour one instead? Thanks for your help!
Hi Man, thank you! Try to see this video with a person who sees better and will comment for you. In my video is a lot of small handmade work - sawing, drilling, gluing, soldering, assembling and other that can not be described in a few words. These are modifications for installing new large 100mm faders, using custom panels, as well as a detachable encoder. I already changed the hard drive there for a long time, and I installed Intel SSD 330 series 120 GB there.
All 2400 or 2480 Roland machines have a external color VGA video output, you can connect a color monitor of any size to it. This is in fact a strong feature of these machines.
I know and i have in fact a vga screen. But I can't inverse colours to read white on black, for example. That's why I'm asking for connecting another screen directly to the machine.
Hello, thanks! No, I did not do anything with preamps and converters. Replacing a preamp or converter is not just a matter of replacing the chip, and in most cases it requires a redesign of schematic and a printed circuit board. In the studio, I record basically, through an external Roland preamps/converters (two ADA-7000) and I rarely use internal preamps in 2400 (with the exception of live recordings where a need many inputs).
Yes, faders are a common illness of these machines, and if something wears out, then the faders wear out first. I'm in Russia, and the restoring of your 2480 can be a particular problem (the common cost of shipping can be equal a third of the price of the 2480 on Ebay). If you only need to replace the faders, try to contact Canadian service Roland, there are good guys and I think they can sell you a directly the faders for your 2480. Their contacts- RCM.parts@roland.com Then you can replace them yourself, or you can ask someone who has repair experience and owns a soldering iron. Faders replacement - in general, the procedure is simple and does not require a special service knowledge, tricks and tips related to equipment Roland. Note that the faders in the 2400 and 2480 are different. You need faders for VS-2480 (Part # 02454445 motor fader EVA NQA CA1 B14) x 17 pcs.
Очень круто реализованный обгрейд! Непонятно почему Роланд на этом решил съэкономить, когда Ямаха на aw2400 в тот период уже это реализовала... ) Ещё бы потенциометры панорамы бы воткнуть - вообще была бы студия мечты!.. хотя вроде ve7000 от Роланда по идее - этот вопрос решает!.. Респект мастеру!
Спасибо! Да, у производителя теперь и не спросишь (боюсь, не у кого), почему они сделали так, а не иначе. В частности, почему не добавили usb порт для обмена данными, поскольку его отсутствие - это настоящая головная боль)) ну и качество фейдеров и шаговый принцип управления ими это тоже хороший вопрос… В ямахах и акаях да, фейдеры долговечней.
@@Anthony_Scott_Studioservice Благодарю за обратную связь! Да, Scsi хотя бы как на 2480 воткнули бы...( вероятно 2400 они планировали для тандемной работы с MV серией, она очевидно - в том же корпусе и может быть мастером в спайке, когда vs дополняет её функционал органами управления микшером (как слэйв)... И при наличии карт r-buss - можно совместно управлять проектами и их сбросом на комп по usb c mv8800!.. Так что наверно: роландцы мыслили в масштабах модульной системы звукозаписи, влючающей Vs2400+mv8800+ve7000+mb24... P.s. Но, чую, что с Вашим потенциалом- возможно их глобальный концепт с 4-мя отдельными модулями, доточить до совершенного уровня юзобильного моноблока с кардридером!..) P.P.S. а, если ещё миди клавиатуру с адекватным питч-бендом врезать в систему и часть органов управления перетащить с vs2480 - это будет вообще пинком их новому Fantomу (несмотря даже на скорость загрузки и отсутствие микро- тачскрина...)))
In my experience of owning both the VS-2400 and now the VS-2480 x 3, I can tell you the faders on the 2480 are far far superior to those found on the 2400, The 2480 faders are much quicker and much snappier in operation.
Hey dude! Amazing work! I have a 2400 and would like to be able to use it for much longer. Do you remember if there are any resources that you used during this build that you would mind sharing such as schematics or parts lists? Do you know of a good forum for restoration/modification to these? Thanks!
Hello! Sorry for the long answer. Many thanks! Unfortunately, all I used was some parts and tools that were at hand , as well as some experience and accumulated knowledge, and I did not turn to any resources or links. Buying new Alps faders - first there was an experience of buying on Thomann and later on Ebay (they turned out to be better in quality). Also will be needed a new wider fader knobs (aka T-lever). If this you still need, you write, and I will try to remember and find these sources. If you need documentation for the 2400, I can send it you an email. Here is the only forum dedicated to Roland machines: www.vsplanet.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php
"...small upgrade..."? Скорее уж "total tweak" :-D Да, я слоупок-слоупок, но! Не приходилось ли связываться с VM-C7200? Может быть, подскажете, чем набрызгать (намазать, настучать...) подклинивающий фейдер, или сразу под замену? Kontakt 701 не спас. Идея сделать сьемную панель фейдеров тоже витает в воздухе (и даже ЧПУшник есть в соседнем помещении!!!), но никак не соберусь...
Опс, сорри, ваш коммент пропустил… С системами микширования vm в плане ремонта не сталкивался. Если же фейдер в цифровой системе начал конкретно глючить, то это 99% замена, и никакая химия не спасёт, т.к. углеродное резистивное покрытие скорее всего уже стёрто до дыр (точнее будет видно при разборке и осмотре углеродного трека на просвет).
Thank you for rating! For me, these old machines are somewhat more comfortable and quite familiar. I do many things on them very quickly, although at the same time I use Logic and Cubase from time to time. I decided to give them a second life, as I mainly use them for remote live recording and further editing and mixing... of course, with using some outboard - Lex PCM70 and M3000 as reverbs -)) "The best system" is a relative therms today, with existing developed and well-sounding mac/pc DAW's, the difference is leveled. If says about serious hardware systems, I probably can only mention IZ, but this is quite expensive for me (with 32 analog in/out's), and meaningless. For my tasks two VS and two ada-7000 do a good job when they are needed. Yes, two VS linked "master-slave". About internal storage upgrade, i replaced factory 40 GB HDD's on the SSD's Intel 330 series 120GB via sata/ide adapters.
Dear Anthony, Very Professional Job!! Really Like the way you work men... very clean, precise and professional. Regards
Thanks Franky! Best regards!
Very nice work!
Brilliant work.
Wow, wish I could have you do this to my 2400. Yours is definitely ready for many more years of use. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Thank you! I think that after this work, all that's left is to put a raid array (RAID1) in the 2400 or at least just removable SSD 2.5".
Превосходная работа, мои комплименты мастеру. Такие люди вызывают глубокое уважение.
Спасибо!
Super Job! Very Professional!
Holy f*cking shit, you are a Sorcerer!
This Maschine’s are awesome, I had a Roland VS2000 CD, the last in line, but the only one with USB!
I install one VS8F-2 Board and one VS8F-3 Board into the VS2000 with all 10 released Plugins for the VS8F-3 Board!
I sell the Maschine for 8 or 10 Years …today I must say, I wish it back, really!
The VS2000 have a great Recording Sound, ok only in 44.1Khz but 16 and 24Bit possible.
The VS8F-3 Plug-ins were awesome, the Soundblender Soundtoys are totally once, you get with that sounds out your guitar, you never heard them before in your life, and that‘s Sounds were Great!
Nice Job Man …puha … I never can do that, I believe that such Maschine’s you have there, are really really good today, and I think no one else have a VS 2400 like you have…. Cool, really really nice Job!
Thanks for sharing this!
hello, mine burned the ci of the source the first one after the entrance of the energy..it doesn't have the reference anymore,, if you can send me the photo of the ci, or the reference would be grateful, here in Brazil it's very complicated to fix
WOW! Genius level!
Thanks Bro!
Wirklich hervorragende Arbeit 😎
motor fader 13 pcs how much?
Where can buy ?
I have same VS 2400 but now motor fader it's broken
Amazing work. Is there anyway to recover lost music in the hard drives for the 2400 ? Had to reset my workstation and lost all the music in the hard drives. Please help if its possible to retrieve my catalog. Thank you.
Sorry for the long answer. What have you done, have you replaced the old OS firmware with a new one? Or something else? With such manipulations, the machine may not see disks with previous projects, but the data on them is still stored, unless you have started the formatting procedure. If you have formatted, then in this case you only need the guys who are engaged in data recovery on hard drives.
Did you manage to solve the problem?
Вот ты заморочился
мой 2480 тоже нуждается в замене. Но у него недостаток - пластиковый корпус.
Кстати совсем не обязательно делать экранированый провод до файдеров, там все равно перед АЦП стоит RC цепь.
WOW this is a pro video, you put alot of work into sharing this with us! Thank you... I'm sure you will get alot more views if you update the thumbnail.
Thanks! This is a video with its own narrow specifics, so I don’t expect big views. Regarding the thumbnail, I do not even know what can be thought up brighter or better, I just left miniature which youtube offers automatically when i loading video. But I will try at leisure, thanks!
@@Anthony_Scott_Studioservice could you please help me I have question about how midi is transmitted through a board
Hi Anthony, are you familiar with the Roland VS-2480? Can a fader replacement be done on that machine similar to the one in this video? The only thing is that the upper case housing on the 2480 is plastic not metal
Hi Connor! Good question ...
Unfortunately, I haven't had any experience reworking a 2480 machine yet. Once upon a time (seems to be in 2004) I opened it to replace the battery (this was 2480 machine of my friend's) and we didn't take it disassembly completely to get to the faders, so I don't know, how is it done there and is there a suitable size in chassis for installing long faders.
If you are "with hands" and have technical experience, then you yourself will be able to disassemble the car to clarify this point, and it will be clearer for you there. In addition, you can take a few photos and put them, for example, on Google Photos and give me a link...
@@Anthony_Scott_Studioservice Thanks for your reply. I will look into that. Before I do, I will dig up data by others who have done fader replacements - all of which were done using like-for-like stock parts, which only serve to postpone the inevitable issues, briefly. The fader board in that model is notorious for failure, as are the CD drives. I would like to replace all the faders, exchange the CD for a DVD read/write (Panasonic), replace the battery, and mod the fan to install a switch at the rear panel to enable it to be turned off during recording and back on as required. Also, the IDE hard drive can be replaced with an SSD (Samsung Evo) further reducing heat build up. For an old machine, there may be life in the old dog yet. The preamps are great as are the stock EQ's and Compression. I would love to figure out a way to include a USB port for mulittrack transfer to a PC. Wishful thinking.
@@connorpower
Well, if so, then you have a lot of work ahead of you. Write if you have any questions (maybe I can help you with something), and good luck.
Yes, ... regarding the transfer of tracks to a computer, there is also a Presonus V-Fire converter.
By the way, it would be a great solution if someone made a CD-RW drive emulator with a USB connector!
If you ever sell one of those hit us up
Awesome Job!
Epic job!
hello, could you please give me the model of the faders??' and the stereo fader too, thank you
Hello! Are you interested in the model of the original faders or the ones I used during the upgrade?
These faders in the video are Alps, RSA0N11 series, and if I remember correctly a more complete number, it is RSA0N11M9A04.
The channel and master faders are all exactly the same. Stereo control is done on the motherboard, receiving a DC signal from a single ("mono") fader.
Question, does the VS use Linear or Exponential faders? and does the ALPS faders that you used are the right resistance shape?
The faders that I have used are linear (genuine faders are also linear).
These are the so-called "digital faders" or "DC faders" and are used in many digital mixing applications. Their carbon track is connected to DC supply (5...9V), and the sliding contact transfers the voltage change to the motherboard to the microcontroller. And the microcontroller receives this voltage and controls the audio level change according to the "audio curve" embedded in it, in simple terms.
@@Anthony_Scott_Studioservice thanks, I'm looking for replacements on mouser and your comment is just what I needed
Hi Anthony. Really nice work! Im wondering if you can help me. I have a 2480 and some of the functions stopped working. Seems more to the right side of the control panel. Some of the buttons dont light up or work. Someone mentioned a power supply issue. Any idea what you think might be causing this problem. Play works, faders ect. Thank you!
Hi Wayne! Sorry, I answered late. Problems can be, yes, with the power supplied to the control board, and the contacts of the ribbon cables can also oxidize. But you need to check the power in the assembled and turned on machine when the control board is connected with motherboard and PSU. Have you solved the problem yet?
@@Anthony_Scott_Studioservice Thanks Anthony. I have not done anything yet. I didn't know about the ribbon cables. But I will look into your suggestions. That seems to be the theme!!! Thank you very much.
Hi Anthony, hope you're well. Are you a hobbyist or a professional audio expert that works for a company(s)? Very interesting what you're doing. Hard to believe you don't do something similar along these lines as a pro. Thanks for posting...
Hi John, thanks for your comment and rating.
I am not a professional or an expert working for an audio equipment company. My main activity is studio production. The moment that I am engaged in the repair and various upgrades and maintenance of studio equipment is, one might say, a professional hobby. Since from the very beginning I always had to fix or repair the equipment myself (in my studio, and then other people), including aligning and repairing analog tape recorders, cleaning microphone capsules and much more ...
Amazing video brother cheers, please help me, i need to know where i can get these accessories of the Roland VS 2400 CD, cheers Anthony. much appreciated.
Hello bro, thank you!
No special accessories Roland here in the video there.
The faders 100mm are not original, they are used in the Yamaha mixing consoles. Panels - this is my custom, which I did on order at the factory.
One thing that is original is the new rotary encoders )) I once bought 10 pieces on Ebay...
Thank you Anthony, was wondering if you could brief me as to where i can get th eoriginal faders of the vs 2400 cd, would be much appreciated bro, thanks n cheers
Note that the faders in the 2400 and 2480 are different. You need faders for VS-2480 (Part # 02454445 motor fader EVA NQA CA1 B14) x 17 pcs.
bro you posted this message on this page was wondering if you could help me out with the part number for the vs 2400 cd faders, thanks
No, for 2400 faders is: Part. # 02901734 EVANSA CB1 B14 ! :)
Faders for the 2400 and 2480 are different, made by Panasonic.
Thank you Anthony much appreciated, cheers.
Genius!
Hello Anthony, good day I loved your video was very interesting, I would like to know if you know how we can convert the backups of VS 2400 which is in RDAC format to wave without having to export from VS to cd ?, thank you Ryldo
Hello Rildo, thanks!
For 2400 machines, I know that there are two methods. One of them is software, if this page and links work, then you can try.
www.thegoodlibrary.com/VSWaveExport.php
There it requires to install special software on desktop PC and then removing HDD from 2400 and connection it to PC.
But I have never try it.
Another method - it's real time 8-tracks recordind into PC DAW via R-bus interface using Presonus V-Fire interface or the Roland RPC-1 interface card.
And at the beginning you thought oh fuck he destroyed it
I have a VS 2400cd in need of repair. Can you help?
What's wrong with your 2400? What exactly isn't working?
@@Anthony_Scott_Studioservice After sitting a couple of years, at power up, the video screen is lighted with no data. There is a 'grunt' from the CD. The hard drive does not power up. The drive it self and the data on the drive is good. During that interval, there was a power surge in my house affecting TV's and other gear. Other equipment in the studio on the same circuit was not affected. Thank you in advance for your interest.
@@wofpac Oops ... Paul, sorry for the long answer!
If you have a power surge occured, it could damage the power supply in the first place. The likelihood of damage to components on the motherboard is quite small, but it also exists.
If you have a familiar electronics technician nearby, you could check the voltages at the PSU output together with him for a start. As well as voltages at some points on the motherboard.
Hello, what SATA to ide adapter do you use for your vs machines?
Hello! I use StarTech adapters after upgrade:
www.startech.com/en-us/hdd/ide2sat25
But before that, different adapters bought on Aliexpress worked there. Now I gave one of them to my friend, it works great in his 2400 machine.
Amazing job on your Vs2400s!
I have just bought one of these second hand and 3 of its faders are not working properly.
The motors are working but these 3 faders doesn't move as supposed, moving to the wrong position and eventually getting stuck at the bottom or the top.
As finding replacement faders for the va2400 seems almost impossible, I've being thinking of trying to fix those faulty ones instead of replacing them...
Do you think it would be possible to fix a fader instead of simply replacing it? I have a resin 3d printer so I'd be able to print small gears or something if needed...
If the motor is the source of problem, maybe I could get another motorized (alps maybe?) fader and use only it's dc motor to repair vs2400s original one... What do you think?
I was able to understand exactly what the problem is, working on the repair. By the way, I'm building an arduíno powered led meter for the vs2400!
Thanks Cesar!
When a fader in a VS machine behaves in a similar way, as you write, it means that it breaks down and cannot be repaired and restored, alas. What's going on there in the VS faders, I'll tell you.
The VS faders sliding contact that rides on the carbon track is made of soft metal, and in addition, the track surface in the faders is quite abrasive (as opposed to the carbon in the large professional console faders). Therefore, after 2-3 years of intensive work, especially with projects where you write a lot of automation and move the faders, the sliding metal contact is first grinded off, and its rounded tip breaks off. At this moment, nothing changes in the operation of the machine, and you work further without suspecting anything. At this time, the broken tip of the contact, which now has a sharp end, grinds furrows in the carbon, and when the carbon is erased from the bakelite board, the machine loses its fader position, and that's it, goodbye. It is almost impossible to restore it in a service center or a home workshop, since carbon in the form of a specially selected liquid composition is applied at the factory and dries in an oven.
You must unsolder the worn faders from PCB, open it, and the described defect in the form of grooves in the carbon track will probably already be there. To see this better, you can illuminate the bakelite board with carbon with a lamp, directing the light from the back so that it passes through the board.
The motors and mechanics in the faders are more reliable and can last a long time.
@@zerorusher Oh, and I already gave you the answer to the previous question :)
If I understood correctly, then you made a level indicator similar to Roland MB-24?
Yes, It is!
Vs sends polyphonic signals to midi channel 16.
Notes 0 to 23 are channels 1 to 24 and the velocity (0 to 127) indicates the track level.
It's pretty simple to implement with arduíno receiving the midi notes and lightening the led strips accordingly
I wonder if someone with deeper electronic knowledge found reverse engineer Dif AT so it would be possible to create an arduino/raspberry based ADAT/RBUS converter
top bro i did something same but you are the best !!!
Thanks bro!
How much do you charge to do this for someone? I luuuuv the VS recorders!!
Whether this upgrade will make practical sense for you, if for example you live in another country, and only the cost of delivery to me in Russia and back to you can cost more than $ 200-350 (this should be clarified and depends on the type of delivery, insurance and country) plus works and some parts & matreials. I do not only VS things, but also studio equipment in general (mixers/consoles, tape machines and other gear), and for all the time I did this way only 2 VS here for guys in our country, plus 2 my VS. The guys from other countries ask about too, but again, only one shipping cost in both directions scares away from such an upgrade. Considering that in the end, total expenses can be more expensive than such things are worth today on Ebay. Thanks!
Are the original faders for the vs-2400 still available from Roland Canada? What was your reasoning to use another brand fader? Were they direct replacements as far as resistance, motor voltage and amperage? I love how you made them replaceable from the top.
Thanks for the questions. The original Panasonic faders are very difficult to obtain today, they are almost gone, unless you can ask them directly at Roland's Japanese head office by writing to their service department.
I was looking for replacement faders that would be fairly reliable, inexpensive, with suitable dimensions for installation and sold in sufficient quantities in many places today. Therefore, the choice fell on these Alps. This is a direct replacement for resistance, however their motors need a slightly higher supply voltage of 8 volts instead of 5 (which entailed installing a separate power supply inside the 2400 machine) and a total current of at least 1.5 - 2 amps. The mod with a removable panel makes it possible to quickly and easily replace a failed or worn fader, for example, during a session or remote recording (just having a few spare pre-wired faders and a hex 2mm screwdriver in bag).
Hi Man,
I am almost blind and I cannot see what you have done to your machine but I suppose from the posts below that you have changed the hard drive.
I wonder if it is possible to change the screen and put a colour one instead?
Thanks for your help!
Hi Man, thank you! Try to see this video with a person who sees better and will comment for you. In my video is a lot of small handmade work - sawing, drilling, gluing, soldering, assembling and other that can not be described in a few words. These are modifications for installing new large 100mm faders, using custom panels, as well as a detachable encoder.
I already changed the hard drive there for a long time, and I installed Intel SSD 330 series 120 GB there.
Thanks for these details. But, do you know if we can change the screen for a largest and coloured one?
All 2400 or 2480 Roland machines have a external color VGA video output, you can connect a color monitor of any size to it. This is in fact a strong feature of these machines.
I know and i have in fact a vga screen. But I can't inverse colours to read white on black, for example. That's why I'm asking for connecting another screen directly to the machine.
hello , great job! .. but have you changed the converters and preamps?
Hello, thanks!
No, I did not do anything with preamps and converters. Replacing a preamp or converter is not just a matter of replacing the chip, and in most cases it requires a redesign of schematic and a printed circuit board.
In the studio, I record basically, through an external Roland preamps/converters (two ADA-7000) and I rarely use internal preamps in 2400 (with the exception of live recordings where a need many inputs).
Could you help me restore my VS-2480? My faders are not working well anymore.
Yes, faders are a common illness of these machines, and if something wears out, then the faders wear out first.
I'm in Russia, and the restoring of your 2480 can be a particular problem (the common cost of shipping can be equal a third of the price of the 2480 on Ebay).
If you only need to replace the faders, try to contact Canadian service Roland, there are good guys and I think they can sell you a directly the faders for your 2480. Their contacts- RCM.parts@roland.com
Then you can replace them yourself, or you can ask someone who has repair experience and owns a soldering iron. Faders replacement - in general, the procedure is simple and does not require a special service knowledge, tricks and tips related to equipment Roland.
Note that the faders in the 2400 and 2480 are different.
You need faders for VS-2480 (Part # 02454445 motor fader EVA NQA CA1 B14) x 17 pcs.
Очень круто реализованный обгрейд! Непонятно почему Роланд на этом решил съэкономить, когда Ямаха на aw2400 в тот период уже это реализовала... ) Ещё бы потенциометры панорамы бы воткнуть - вообще была бы студия мечты!.. хотя вроде ve7000 от Роланда по идее - этот вопрос решает!.. Респект мастеру!
Спасибо! Да, у производителя теперь и не спросишь (боюсь, не у кого), почему они сделали так, а не иначе. В частности, почему не добавили usb порт для обмена данными, поскольку его отсутствие - это настоящая головная боль)) ну и качество фейдеров и шаговый принцип управления ими это тоже хороший вопрос… В ямахах и акаях да, фейдеры долговечней.
@@Anthony_Scott_Studioservice Благодарю за обратную связь!
Да, Scsi хотя бы как на 2480 воткнули бы...( вероятно 2400 они планировали для тандемной работы с MV серией, она очевидно - в том же корпусе и может быть мастером в спайке, когда vs дополняет её функционал органами управления микшером (как слэйв)... И при наличии карт r-buss - можно совместно управлять проектами и их сбросом на комп по usb c mv8800!.. Так что наверно: роландцы мыслили в масштабах модульной системы звукозаписи, влючающей Vs2400+mv8800+ve7000+mb24...
P.s. Но, чую, что с Вашим потенциалом- возможно их глобальный концепт с 4-мя отдельными модулями, доточить до совершенного уровня юзобильного моноблока с кардридером!..)
P.P.S. а, если ещё миди клавиатуру с адекватным питч-бендом врезать в систему и часть органов управления перетащить с vs2480 - это будет вообще пинком их новому Fantomу (несмотря даже на скорость загрузки и отсутствие микро- тачскрина...)))
@@Anthony_Scott_Studioservice во времена WIN95 USB был экзотикой
In my experience of owning both the VS-2400 and now the VS-2480 x 3, I can tell you the faders on the 2480 are far far superior to those found on the 2400, The 2480 faders are much quicker and much snappier in operation.
Hey dude! Amazing work! I have a 2400 and would like to be able to use it for much longer. Do you remember if there are any resources that you used during this build that you would mind sharing such as schematics or parts lists? Do you know of a good forum for restoration/modification to these? Thanks!
Hello! Sorry for the long answer. Many thanks!
Unfortunately, all I used was some parts and tools that were at hand , as well as some experience and accumulated knowledge, and I did not turn to any resources or links. Buying new Alps faders - first there was an experience of buying on Thomann and later on Ebay (they turned out to be better in quality). Also will be needed a new wider fader knobs (aka T-lever). If this you still need, you write, and I will try to remember and find these sources. If you need documentation for the 2400, I can send it you an email.
Here is the only forum dedicated to Roland machines:
www.vsplanet.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php
Wow!
Awesome
Thanks Man
Genius
"...small upgrade..."? Скорее уж "total tweak" :-D Да, я слоупок-слоупок, но! Не приходилось ли связываться с VM-C7200? Может быть, подскажете, чем набрызгать (намазать, настучать...) подклинивающий фейдер, или сразу под замену? Kontakt 701 не спас.
Идея сделать сьемную панель фейдеров тоже витает в воздухе (и даже ЧПУшник есть в соседнем помещении!!!), но никак не соберусь...
Опс, сорри, ваш коммент пропустил… С системами микширования vm в плане ремонта не сталкивался. Если же фейдер в цифровой системе начал конкретно глючить, то это 99% замена, и никакая химия не спасёт, т.к. углеродное резистивное покрытие скорее всего уже стёрто до дыр (точнее будет видно при разборке и осмотре углеродного трека на просвет).
Круто!
woah.
Woow. For VS2480!
Im totally impressed! But why so much effort on such an old, limited machine? Why not just go to a better system? Are those slaved together?
Also, did you change the internal storage or upgrade anything else other than the faders?
Because these machines are hailed as the best , if your recording then you shouldn't need a fast system to edit and cheat.
Thank you for rating! For me, these old machines are somewhat more comfortable and quite familiar. I do many things on them very quickly, although at the same time I use Logic and Cubase from time to time. I decided to give them a second life, as I mainly use them for remote live recording and further editing and mixing... of course, with using some outboard - Lex PCM70 and M3000 as reverbs -))
"The best system" is a relative therms today, with existing developed and well-sounding mac/pc DAW's, the difference is leveled. If says about serious hardware systems, I probably can only mention IZ, but this is quite expensive for me (with 32 analog in/out's), and meaningless. For my tasks two VS and two ada-7000 do a good job when they are needed.
Yes, two VS linked "master-slave".
About internal storage upgrade, i replaced factory 40 GB HDD's on the SSD's Intel 330 series 120GB via sata/ide adapters.
@Victor Jones Thanks for the advice, I'm also looking at the reaper, I already had a little work experience in it - very simple and convenient.
All the best, Victor and thanks!
small upgrade
"Small upgrade". :D
круто! от Костяна бы не слышал, не понял бы что происходит
Спасибо, потихоньку разгребаю ремонты ) есть ещё кое-какие видео, надо заняться.
LOL
Genius