That is so cool, you must be the funnest dad! And you're so right about this going beyond fighting. What are some experiences of this that you wouldn't mind sharing with others on this journey?
@phoenixmountaintaichi I would say that anyone familiar with ting jin when pushing or doing ting jin when physically connected to someone should try it disconnected, as in ting jin when talking to someone or sitting in nature. The higher goal is creating the mental space which will expand awareness in general. I don't want to get too far out there but I hope this is helpful 😅
@@LiShuBenTotally! I don't think it's too far out at all! Because most of us have parents and we probably remember the experience of our mom or dad's Ting Jin peering into our soul at the mischief we tried to hide 😆 I used to worry about sounding too far out sometimes, or rather I'd try to appear like a serious and practical martial artist, until I realized life is so much more meaningful when I live it as who I really am, acknowledging my authentic feelings and experiences. And isn't it so fortifying, so empowering, to speak your personal truth? And how satisfying is life when you go beyond other people's perspectives and live fully in your reality? Thank you so much for sharing!! 🙏
@@phoenixmountaintaichi thank you for your advice! I'm still new to teaching and I live in a small town so I'm still trying to find the best way to approach things. I'll just try being more natural and speaking as plainly as a can. Thanks again for all your content and willingness to answer questions so candidly!
@@LiShuBenThis small town is lucky to have a teacher like you! As you continue to share the meaningful stories from your life and from your experiences naturally and sincerely, they will surely realize the authenticity and value behind what you share. And wouldn't that be nice for everyone? 🙌
The example of swinging a towel is a great analogy! :) Even though the towel is soft and not connected to our nervous system, we can still wield it like it's an extension of our own body. Does this mean that to use Ting Jin we have to actively interact with the opponent? (i.e. exerting an appropriate amount of force/energy and gauging the return signal, like how a radar works in real life, rather than just touching him/her and expecting to "feel" something?)
Great intro to Tingjin. I struggle with "listening" and making the initial connection to thr other person and thr timing of the connection. At some point could you do a more advanced how to video? Thanks. Love all your videos.
Yes! Thank you for the suggestion. The easiest first step to improving that initial connection is fascia awareness and I will be putting up videos and a while course on that. 😃
As you quiet your mind, the ability of the mind and heart to hear naturally grows. And that means meditation, whether sitting, standing, moving or guided, can all be very helpful to develop this awareness!
@Phoenix Mountain Taichi That's only when the enemy is not really resisting and doing everything that you tell them to do, what about if they really get angry and don't do anything that you say lol?? How's everything going to work then?
It works coz you worked on it, people don't just strike, they wrestle and a little person with less strenght can equally fight by training this internally works... This is important coz you start to put your mind on the space, on the person, to feel and influence... if you just wrestle by force, the strongest person or that who have better technique, luck and state will win 100%... If you seek tai ji vs wrestling, wrestles can't even lift those little tai chi masters, why is that? Internal training.
@@DragonIndigoGreat answer! And nice question Bluedragon. This is a discussion among dragons and phoenixes haha. The awareness you develop in Tingjin is particularly effective on someone who is relaxed and subtle. If they are angry and forceful, it will be more obvious and clear what they want to do, where their attack is coming, and how you would deal with it. But you would have to do it much faster than what you saw in this video. But things that you learn, you can do faster after you practice and get better at it right? You can imagine Tingjin to be like the information gathering part of conflict or war. If you don't know their plan or attack, it can be scarier and more difficult. If your radar tells you where their forces are and their plan, you can respond more effectively, even with smaller army. If they are angry and resisting and yelling at you, it would be easier to know and prepare, wouldn't it? It's good that you are thinking beyond what you see in this teaching demonstration, towards how you can apply it in conflict because that's where this is going towards, how to have awareness, calmness, and control in the eye of the storm. And when you discover the power in being calm and aware like that, do you think you will be able to deal with angry opponents more skillfully, like the masters that Dragonindigo mentioned? Thanks for the nice discussion everyone!
I love how clear and articulate you are. Would love to learn more from you :)
Thank you! I will continue to share helpful tips on improving and enjoying Tai Chi practice!
very helpful....💓💓💓
Thank you for watching!
I use this and an jin when playing "monster" with my children. This is a really fun skill that has many applications that go beyond fighting
That is so cool, you must be the funnest dad! And you're so right about this going beyond fighting. What are some experiences of this that you wouldn't mind sharing with others on this journey?
@phoenixmountaintaichi I would say that anyone familiar with ting jin when pushing or doing ting jin when physically connected to someone should try it disconnected, as in ting jin when talking to someone or sitting in nature. The higher goal is creating the mental space which will expand awareness in general.
I don't want to get too far out there but I hope this is helpful 😅
@@LiShuBenTotally! I don't think it's too far out at all! Because most of us have parents and we probably remember the experience of our mom or dad's Ting Jin peering into our soul at the mischief we tried to hide 😆
I used to worry about sounding too far out sometimes, or rather I'd try to appear like a serious and practical martial artist, until I realized life is so much more meaningful when I live it as who I really am, acknowledging my authentic feelings and experiences. And isn't it so fortifying, so empowering, to speak your personal truth? And how satisfying is life when you go beyond other people's perspectives and live fully in your reality? Thank you so much for sharing!! 🙏
@@phoenixmountaintaichi thank you for your advice! I'm still new to teaching and I live in a small town so I'm still trying to find the best way to approach things. I'll just try being more natural and speaking as plainly as a can.
Thanks again for all your content and willingness to answer questions so candidly!
@@LiShuBenThis small town is lucky to have a teacher like you! As you continue to share the meaningful stories from your life and from your experiences naturally and sincerely, they will surely realize the authenticity and value behind what you share. And wouldn't that be nice for everyone? 🙌
The example of swinging a towel is a great analogy! :)
Even though the towel is soft and not connected to our nervous system, we can still wield it like it's an extension of our own body.
Does this mean that to use Ting Jin we have to actively interact with the opponent?
(i.e. exerting an appropriate amount of force/energy and gauging the return signal, like how a radar works in real life,
rather than just touching him/her and expecting to "feel" something?)
Great intro to Tingjin. I struggle with "listening" and making the initial connection to thr other person and thr timing of the connection. At some point could you do a more advanced how to video? Thanks. Love all your videos.
Yes! Thank you for the suggestion. The easiest first step to improving that initial connection is fascia awareness and I will be putting up videos and a while course on that. 😃
This was amazing!
Thank you for your comment! I hope you find a lot of success as you practice. 🙏
Great video!
Thank you for watching this more subtle subject! Sometimes it's the less dramatic things that make all the difference, have you had that experience?
Is there any solo exercise for developing this feeling skill
As you quiet your mind, the ability of the mind and heart to hear naturally grows. And that means meditation, whether sitting, standing, moving or guided, can all be very helpful to develop this awareness!
audio seemed to quiet. i had to change speakers.
Thanks for letting me know! I will update my recording settings for the future. I'm sure that'll help a lot of other people too.
very clear sound at low volume but only on my good bose speaker. thanks anyway.
Thank you for making the effort! I will improve the sound engineering.
@Phoenix Mountain Taichi That's only when the enemy is not really resisting and doing everything that you tell them to do, what about if they really get angry and don't do anything that you say lol?? How's everything going to work then?
It works coz you worked on it, people don't just strike, they wrestle and a little person with less strenght can equally fight by training this internally works...
This is important coz you start to put your mind on the space, on the person, to feel and influence... if you just wrestle by force, the strongest person or that who have better technique, luck and state will win 100%...
If you seek tai ji vs wrestling, wrestles can't even lift those little tai chi masters, why is that? Internal training.
@@DragonIndigoGreat answer! And nice question Bluedragon. This is a discussion among dragons and phoenixes haha. The awareness you develop in Tingjin is particularly effective on someone who is relaxed and subtle. If they are angry and forceful, it will be more obvious and clear what they want to do, where their attack is coming, and how you would deal with it. But you would have to do it much faster than what you saw in this video. But things that you learn, you can do faster after you practice and get better at it right?
You can imagine Tingjin to be like the information gathering part of conflict or war. If you don't know their plan or attack, it can be scarier and more difficult. If your radar tells you where their forces are and their plan, you can respond more effectively, even with smaller army. If they are angry and resisting and yelling at you, it would be easier to know and prepare, wouldn't it? It's good that you are thinking beyond what you see in this teaching demonstration, towards how you can apply it in conflict because that's where this is going towards, how to have awareness, calmness, and control in the eye of the storm. And when you discover the power in being calm and aware like that, do you think you will be able to deal with angry opponents more skillfully, like the masters that Dragonindigo mentioned? Thanks for the nice discussion everyone!