Hope you got a deal, most fun I've every had in an EV was my Fiat 500E. I'm driving a Chevy Bolt now, and its incredibly quick and efficient and more grown up, but i still miss the Cinquecento!
Not everyone is 6' 3". I have a 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth. My family maxes out at 5' 8" (I'm 5' 5"). Four of us fit just fine. I wouldn't take my family on a cross-country trip in it, but it's our go-to vehicle for a trip into Manhattan. I park in all those spaces that are too small for everyone else.
I'm 6'1" and Fiat in my 2015 Abarth just fine. 6'3" people should not be making generalizations that a car is too small. They are the exception not the rule.
I own and drive a 2016 500 E, I got it in 2019, and while it is true that it only has about 80-85 miles of range, I think you’re underselling how well that range can get you around Los Angeles where it was originally sold. I can get from one side of town to the other twice without too much trouble, meaning from the westside to the valley and back. 17 miles, 34 miles round-trip, so two days of work not just one. Also, I think it’s hilarious that the “parcel shelf“ in the sample they have there is broken. That’s something that happens on a lot of these 500 vehicles, that’s kind of hilarious that they didn’t swap it out for this photo op.
6:23 "Rather than only putting a battery in the back of the vehicle like the old car had" Incorrect. Someone is not familiar with their past offerings. The original 500e had a battery pack that ran the length of the cabin like most modern EVs.
They need to bring the convertible! As silly as it sounds it would take the car from dead on arrival to instant buy for me. A lifestyle car like this needs a sunroof at a minimum
I want you guys (or Out of Spec) to buy one and do some I-70 range testing! They are missing out if they are only marketing toward city dwellers. Lots of Rural Coloradans have small EV's to compliment their 4Runner or F-150, and 160 mile range is plenty for day trips if you don't need the ground clearance that day.
I’m not in Colorado or even in the USA but I run a 2023 Defender D250 alongside a Mini Cooper S E - 90% of my motoring can be covered in the Mini, but it’s pretty well useless for off-road stuff - but then the Defender cannot get into most of the multi-storey car parks in town where there are 1.90m headroom barriers……….. to stop vans and commercial vehicles using the car parks
@@timoliver8940 Car makers need to stop pretending that EV's are for city people. It's the people in the suburbs and the country that have garages and places to charge and usually have 2 cars anyway!
@@nc3826 what victims? Pay attention when your are driving and walking and you won't have accidents. It's that kind of attitude why cars cost $10k more than they need to because we have to put 2 foot thick doors and 20 air bags in them.
Since noise is so terrible, we agree that we should outlaw every ICEV.... But noise serves a very important purpose... it warns us when something dangerously stupid is coming at us.... Such as scared luddite trolls, who are scared of the inevitable future.... and who sadly doesn't have a productive life... Victims of their own ineptitude..... Have fun down the pointless rabbit hole, that's going nowhere fast....
34000 with 150 mi is a bit rough. Especially where it's usually smaller cars that are even cheaper. Granted, it's not fighting new Bolts anymore for now, but still rough. Very cute car though
My Rogue S was under $30K, way roomier, can tow 1500lbs, and has a EPA rated range of 537 miles highway. Gas tank charges from 0 to 100% full in 3 minutes.
Virginia would like these also ❤😊 as a former Enterprise employee this was my favorite run around car . I’m 6ft 5 in 202lbs and never had any issues driving or riding in the back.
Just saw a second gen 500e in my local area here in upstate NY finally, Michigan plates so they made a journey lol. Great looking car though I have the first gen 500e and it’s been one of the best cars I have ever owned and after 10 years of age the battery is still doing amazing with little range lost. Can’t say that for many EV’s. The Bosch drive train really has held up. Let’s hope the new one lasts just as long. Go Fiat! Let’s make a comeback
Hoovie's Garage (youtube channel) just bought one for $700 at auction. They are worth nothing because after 10 years the battery packs hold no charge, have no range and cost $7500 to replace. More than the car is worth in the marketplace.
Nice update, but for me the range is still insufficient... Give me a solid 225 ml. range and quick charger and it will be a consideration. I do like the overall looks.
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perfect city car, college kids car and first-timers car
I own a 2017 and love it. I was hoping that they would come with the 199 mile range like the European version has, but 150 is almost twice the range I currently have. I'm curious to see if the Abarth version will come after these or the 600e. That would be a great car since it has the range and space most Americans prefer.
What do you mean? Most Americans complain 300 mile battery range is not enough for their endless cross country trips to local Walmart and office commute. Do you ever read the comments?
Lol...I've only had 84 for 5 yrs and never once did I get stranded on my local commutes, errands. And that's with a compliance car that has no fast charging. Definitely looking to another EV with 200 plus range because that is all I really need.
@@mxmillo wow you are just shaking up 90 percent of Americans with these comments. All of these people that want everyone to believe in their active lifestyle, constant boat towing and daily cross country skiing trips all while working a boring office job actually commuting 20-30 miles per day. But they will never admit 100 miles of daily range is all they need 99 percent of the time.
@@00_UUI need my vehicle to work 100 percent of the time. Not 99. It's why I kept my diesel Ram even though my 300 mile rangish R1T is good for the 95 percent of what I do. The 5 percent I use dinosaur juice.
@@Joeblk10 my 99 percent comment referred to the distance, not reliability. ICE vehicles are not 100 percent reliable, if it was the case repair shops would’ve gone out of business. Since your 95 percent are met with an EV, what are those 5 percent that you still need? If I had to tow a boat two times a year, I would just rent a truck for those days. You still agree 300 mile range is plenty for absolute majority of Americans.
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@@davidmccarthy6061 Lol, that's why I said 'killer feature'. Try and keep up, Dave. Who says no to something that would completely unlock your ability to conveniently travel anywhere they wanted to go? Also, it's crazy that you know how all these people are going to use their cars haha 🤡
@@natebaird NACS??? You must mean J3400, which is the correct current official designation. Looks great??? The slightly larger boxer Jeep Avenger. Would make much more sense for the North American market. I will grant you that looks are subjective. So I'd love to see both sold in North America. To see which one would sell better?
I had a 2013 500e which was the first year for the EV version and it was the best of the compliance EV’s, but Fiat lost money on every sale, so they really didn’t want to sell them. Mine had been leased in California and then the dealer was bringing them up to Washington by the truckload and people were buying them as fast as they could get them out of the truck. It was a great commuting car. I think the furthest I ever drove it was 57 miles to the airport. The airport had 50 outlets in the parking garage, the car was full when I came back. I put 20k miles on it before I decided I wanted a car with fast charging and sold it. They have become kind of cult favorites because I paid $6500 for mine in 2017 and I doubt they could be found for that now. At the time I wished that it had fast charging and 150 miles of range. That’s not really enough for a long trip, but for me a trip to downtown Seattle was almost 50 miles, so I pretty much plugged it in anywhere I went. With the seats down I could fit my folding e-bike in back and I could easily park in spots where pickup trucks couldn’t
Hoovie's Garage (youtube channel) just bought one for $700 at auction. They are worth nothing because after 10 years the battery packs hold no charge, have no range and cost $7500 to replace. More than the car is worth in the marketplace. You need to know that
@@624radicalham Hoovie is well known to overly dramatize if not outright lie in videos. What happened in one car doesn’t represent all cars. I wouldn’t believe anything in his EV videos without additional sources
@@kenmcclow8963 Well the fact is battery packs don't last, no one in America will repair the cells (there's only ONE shop in Bulgaria doing that as of 2024) and he DID pay $700 for a Fiat 500e. Those are the facts. It's just sad that there is no reasonable used car market for these EVs after only 10 years.
@@624radicalham there are a number of shops that repair or replace battery modules and cells. There is Gruber Motors and Electrified Garage that Rich Rebuilds owns with multiple locations, but there are a number that I don’t know the names of. I was listening to an interview with one guy in the south suburbs of Seattle just a few days ago. There are probably aren’t enough considering the number of older cars that will be having original batteries die. However it’s also a limited issue because newer batteries are meant to last a million miles compared to the early 2010’s cars which die after 10-15 years. The 2013-2019 Fiat might not have a aftermarket battery replacement like the first Leaf’s did. Fiat made it fairly clear they didn’t want to sell those cars and only made them because California wouldn’t let them sell pickup trucks otherwise. My 2015 Tesla got totaled because it was eight years old and the car had two refreshes, so the parts for mine were getting rare. My battery was fine and probably ended up in some other car, but for lack of radiator brackets it was done in.
I think fiat has hit a home run with this 500e, especially if they bring a cabrio out that’s affordable , they’ll sell as many as they make . I’m looking for an open air electric car here in South Carolina and this if it’s affordable that’s less than 35,000 it’ll sell!
A car dealer near me imported dozens of these California 500e to sell them in our country. He told me that these sold terribly in the states and were never meant to be really used by people. They just had to be sold to meet Californian laws.
This is such a good car, people bash it too much but if you already have a big SUV this kind of tiny efficient car is a great addition, only problem is the price being a bit too high to justify it over a dirt cheap used Leaf or something of that sort.
Another great video from Roman and the TFL team, packed allot into it. Look forward to a deeper dive on the battery. What battery chemistry and curious about bidirectional charger. Next time getting some matching red shoes. 😅
can you tell me any electric car on the market today that is below $25,000 ?? and remember those are made in Italy with very good workmanship, quality, reliability. I know they are reliable, i own a 2022 jeep renegade made in italy, very very reliable trouble free for almost a year, not a single issue. The inspirational nomad here in youtube has over 200,000 miles on a renegade and its still on the road.
Anyone that thinks that a good value for that car has some mental issue! There’s no way that car is worth $32k and only gives 149 miles. You can get a Chevrolet bolt for $26,500 same size if not bigger gives you 259 miles or you can step up to the bolt EUV that’s definitely bigger then that fiat for $27,800 and gives you 247 miles of range. Stelantis products are complete garage!
@@jeanmenieur So? That doesn't mean they're always in stock when the Fiat 500 is still sold. If they do then they must not be as good as you say they are. Otherwise they'd be selling out of them.
@ducktails1695 GM will bring it back in 2025. But ok, forget about the Bolt EV. Take a look at the Model 3: they start at $39k. When they become eligible for the point of sell tax credit the price will drop to $31,500. It makes no sense to buy a Fiat 500e at $32.5k when there are better options out there🙃.
If it had a range of about 225-240 I would consider replacing my 2013. If they could push the the battery up to about 52kw.....then it would be good for the states.
I've driven a 2018 500e for about two and a half years now. I had to stop watching this video. The 1st generation 500e was introduced in 2013, not "2015-ish" (I'm looking at a 2013 on CARFAX as I type) and had a battery pack running the entire underside of the vehicle, not "just in the back". Many of the reviews of the 1st gen 500e said it handled better than the ICE version because of the battery placement and low center of gravity. How is the head of Fiat NA so wrong about their own car?
2024 Fiat 500 City car RRP: From £15,774 Dimensions: 3,571 mm L x 1,627 mm W x 1,488 mm H Horsepower: 51 kW Kerb weight: 980 kg Fuel tank capacity: 35 L Max speed: 103.8 mph
Yes, when they are going for the familiar profile of the 500. It is just like a Miata that fits a smaller amount of people. Not every car has to be for everyone.
14-19 - if they upped it to at least 100mi range, it would have been a major improvement in practicality. The 0-60 doesn't explain the performance, 0-40 mph is exciting. Mine has been super reliable. 6"2"" plenty xtra headroom.
The range is similar to a base model Gen2 Nissan Leaf (2018+) with 40 kWh battery. And you can buy one of them for around 15k, not going to be as cramped. Agree that the Fiat is cute, but cute doesn't mean a lot.
New Leaf is also very comfortable, better than most Nissans. Even the interior quality is higher in the Leaf, which is a very old model by modern standards
I like the product but for one thing - over the air updates. Thus means the potential to remotely brick the car. If they can prove the ECU/ECM can’t be remotely touched (almost impossible) then I’d consider it. The price isn’t really that bad at a 5 year amortization.
I started my journey through FIATdom why selling them, with a new 1974 128 2 door, then a 131, then a 124Spider, followed by some unfortunately unreliable Alfa Romeos... until a 2018 FIAT Abarth 500... that was a fun car as I was selling them again for that year. Now I saw a European 500e Abarth is on sale in the UK. Any chance of it coming here?
Stellantis, EV strategy in NA, shows no appreciation for NA sensibilities. For example to sell the tiny rounded Fiat 500e, but not the slightly larger boxerJeep Avenger in NA is illogical. Is one of many examples.
no, quite the contrary, that price is very reasonable considering the equipment you get, and how the car is beautiful, electric and dont forget the italian cachet, just like italian women, they are the best looking girls,
IDK why people STILL to this day expects vehicles to be in the upper teens to lower $20,000 range. Those days have long passed and if you do happen to see one it's an absolute POS.
@@mixedbyfiatcat Not for a car that is a 2 seater and only gets 150 miles of range. My ID4 was only $6k more than this, Bolt EUV was $4k less. The 500e is not priced well for the non cult followers of this car.
at that price it's going to flop, given the range and size. i first leased a 2015 fiat 500e because it was $90 a month and $0 down, and then bought a used one for $7000 a few years later. i loved both, never any issues.
Old one kinda sucked, new one kinda sucks. I'd rather have the F56 MINI SE. 114mi vs 149mi isn't a huge difference, at least have it be well built and not so slow. You can get those pretty cheap used or heavily discounted on lease. Classy little thing instead of whatever 500e is trying to do. I am also salty because at the time of the original 500e (then FCA) didn't care about it, want to service, or maintain these things. It had DCFC in mules, removed before launch. Infotainment was trash, plagued with dead modules. Their app and telematics literally had a 3 year time limit with no option to renew. It used a bespoke CAN system that made any kind of diagnostic temperamental. Repair parts were insanely expensive. It was also built like the after thought compliance EV it was. Not the kind of company I'd give money to twice.
Well I have a 2014 500e with 80,000 miles and other than a wheel bearing it’s been nearly perfect in terms of reliability. The Bosch designed battery is over 10 years old now and still doing great with minimal range lost so I say they did a good job with the old model. Not many EV’s can say the same. Hopefully the same will be true for this new one.
The worst insult I ever heard is that I look like I would drive a Mini or Fiat. Fiat has a huge image problem in the US. These are lifestyle cars. Not actually practical daily drivers to most folks. All I see driving these cars are old men and a few women. There was one kid in the area who straight piped his.
Didn’t finish the video as I lost interest. Looks like a good car for a 16 year old girl. Any price over 20k is wasted money. Sadly, a Leaf or Bolt is the line in the sand.
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I just bought a 2014 500e. I'll buy this model in another 10 years 😁😁😁
It's a fun car!
Hope you got a deal, most fun I've every had in an EV was my Fiat 500E. I'm driving a Chevy Bolt now, and its incredibly quick and efficient and more grown up, but i still miss the Cinquecento!
Same, 23 Bolt, more practical
Love seeing these come back better than ever.
Jeep Avenger, would be a much better fit for NA.
I like some of the old styling better. The contrast mirrors & wing
Nice to see actual buttons! Could be a good little around town car running errands since most cars have just one person in them most of the time.
Exactly.
Or long work commute or moderate trips
As a former Fiat X/19 owner this is an exciting little car. I'd definitely get one as my first EV.
Considering this for my first new car and EV!
Fiat 500e was my first EV (early 2014). Barely 90 mile range, but so quick from 0-30 mph. Great city car.
So quick off the line
It was nice to see someone from the manufacturer that KNOWS his stuff, including shipping issues!
Not everyone is 6' 3". I have a 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth. My family maxes out at 5' 8" (I'm 5' 5"). Four of us fit just fine. I wouldn't take my family on a cross-country trip in it, but it's our go-to vehicle for a trip into Manhattan. I park in all those spaces that are too small for everyone else.
sneaky hobbitses
I'm 6'1" and Fiat in my 2015 Abarth just fine. 6'3" people should not be making generalizations that a car is too small. They are the exception not the rule.
As a 6’ 4” person, I’m height handicapped for MOST of the cool fun cars 😩
@@AlvinBrinsonThumbs up.
@@J.W.W. -- There are advantages to being vertically-challenged.
I own and drive a 2016 500 E, I got it in 2019, and while it is true that it only has about 80-85 miles of range, I think you’re underselling how well that range can get you around Los Angeles where it was originally sold. I can get from one side of town to the other twice without too much trouble, meaning from the westside to the valley and back. 17 miles, 34 miles round-trip, so two days of work not just one.
Also, I think it’s hilarious that the “parcel shelf“ in the sample they have there is broken. That’s something that happens on a lot of these 500 vehicles, that’s kind of hilarious that they didn’t swap it out for this photo op.
6:23 "Rather than only putting a battery in the back of the vehicle like the old car had" Incorrect. Someone is not familiar with their past offerings.
The original 500e had a battery pack that ran the length of the cabin like most modern EVs.
Yeah that's weird for him to even say that. Maybe he's never seen the previous model before. /s Or maybe shouldn't be making assumptions.
They need to bring the convertible! As silly as it sounds it would take the car from dead on arrival to instant buy for me. A lifestyle car like this needs a sunroof at a minimum
I agree 100%. Convertible option is a must for this car.
If the convertible gas version didn't sell, neither will an EV version.
I want you guys (or Out of Spec) to buy one and do some I-70 range testing! They are missing out if they are only marketing toward city dwellers. Lots of Rural Coloradans have small EV's to compliment their 4Runner or F-150, and 160 mile range is plenty for day trips if you don't need the ground clearance that day.
I’m not in Colorado or even in the USA but I run a 2023 Defender D250 alongside a Mini Cooper S E - 90% of my motoring can be covered in the Mini, but it’s pretty well useless for off-road stuff - but then the Defender cannot get into most of the multi-storey car parks in town where there are 1.90m headroom barriers……….. to stop vans and commercial vehicles using the car parks
@@timoliver8940 Car makers need to stop pretending that EV's are for city people. It's the people in the suburbs and the country that have garages and places to charge and usually have 2 cars anyway!
I honestly wish they would stop that and do a proper city test with these kinds of cars. They're not meant for highways
Playing a tune every time you go over 20mph is going to get old REALLY quickly.
Since it makes it so much harder to run over pedestrians, when they can hear you coming.
I already hate the noise makers on EVs. They are too loud and totally unnecessary.
@@nc3826 what victims? Pay attention when your are driving and walking and you won't have accidents. It's that kind of attitude why cars cost $10k more than they need to because we have to put 2 foot thick doors and 20 air bags in them.
Since noise is so terrible, we agree that we should outlaw every ICEV....
But noise serves a very important purpose... it warns us when something dangerously stupid is coming at us....
Such as scared luddite trolls, who are scared of the inevitable future.... and who sadly doesn't have a productive life... Victims of their own ineptitude.....
Have fun down the pointless rabbit hole, that's going nowhere fast....
Good idea for safety, but some gas cars are very quiet at low speeds t o o. Making selectable sounds would fix it come on my EV sounds are boring
Im in Canada and have mine on order in Tuxedo Black. Where i live it will be about 30k after rebates. Hopefully will have it soon
Nice! Love my 2015
Have one of these over here in Europe for more or less a year now and put already 23k kilometers on it without a single issue. Great daily driver.
kilometers? what is that in football field lengths?
@@BoopSnoot 23.000km are 14.300 miles. ;-)
34000 with 150 mi is a bit rough. Especially where it's usually smaller cars that are even cheaper.
Granted, it's not fighting new Bolts anymore for now, but still rough.
Very cute car though
Well said!
You are buying this car because you want it. You aren’t cross shopping a 500e. It will look awesome next to my Mini SE
My Rogue S was under $30K, way roomier, can tow 1500lbs, and has a EPA rated range of 537 miles highway. Gas tank charges from 0 to 100% full in 3 minutes.
@@BoopSnoot ok?
10 years from now someone will be buying these and putting motorcycle engines in them
I love the guy in the background pushing around the blue FIAT.....made me feel like I was back in the old country 😂
Virginia would like these also ❤😊 as a former Enterprise employee this was my favorite run around car . I’m 6ft 5 in 202lbs and never had any issues driving or riding in the back.
For $99 monthly lease I would consider it.
For $199 a month I’d do it.
Not even for $1 a month.
@@Digikidthevoiceofreason you're bad at math or don't have electricity. Maybe both.
The original 500e was like $89/mo or something on a lease deal.
@@anthonyc8499 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Nah I just think Fiats are one of the UGLIEST little shitboxes ever.
Just saw a second gen 500e in my local area here in upstate NY finally, Michigan plates so they made a journey lol. Great looking car though I have the first gen 500e and it’s been one of the best cars I have ever owned and after 10 years of age the battery is still doing amazing with little range lost. Can’t say that for many EV’s. The Bosch drive train really has held up. Let’s hope the new one lasts just as long. Go Fiat! Let’s make a comeback
Ppl r so dumb, they just want to say unreliable because it's a Fiat, not knowing anything about it
Hoovie's Garage (youtube channel) just bought one for $700 at auction. They are worth nothing because after 10 years the battery packs hold no charge, have no range and cost $7500 to replace. More than the car is worth in the marketplace.
Product red! Love it! Thanks for the support
The original 500e was offered for a $50/month lease, absolute steal!
Nice update, but for me the range is still insufficient... Give me a solid 225 ml. range and quick charger and it will be a consideration. I do like the overall looks.
perfect city car, college kids car and first-timers car
Or country car, for people w a job etc
Is this an LFP battery?
I own a 2017 and love it. I was hoping that they would come with the 199 mile range like the European version has, but 150 is almost twice the range I currently have. I'm curious to see if the Abarth version will come after these or the 600e. That would be a great car since it has the range and space most Americans prefer.
What do you mean? Most Americans complain 300 mile battery range is not enough for their endless cross country trips to local Walmart and office commute. Do you ever read the comments?
Lol...I've only had 84 for 5 yrs and never once did I get stranded on my local commutes, errands. And that's with a compliance car that has no fast charging. Definitely looking to another EV with 200 plus range because that is all I really need.
@@mxmillo wow you are just shaking up 90 percent of Americans with these comments. All of these people that want everyone to believe in their active lifestyle, constant boat towing and daily cross country skiing trips all while working a boring office job actually commuting 20-30 miles per day. But they will never admit 100 miles of daily range is all they need 99 percent of the time.
@@00_UUI need my vehicle to work 100 percent of the time. Not 99. It's why I kept my diesel Ram even though my 300 mile rangish R1T is good for the 95 percent of what I do. The 5 percent I use dinosaur juice.
@@Joeblk10 my 99 percent comment referred to the distance, not reliability. ICE vehicles are not 100 percent reliable, if it was the case repair shops would’ve gone out of business. Since your 95 percent are met with an EV, what are those 5 percent that you still need? If I had to tow a boat two times a year, I would just rent a truck for those days. You still agree 300 mile range is plenty for absolute majority of Americans.
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Looks great. If this shipped with NACS, it'd be a killer offering.
Not necessary. Almost nobody except a UA-camr would drive this any distance. It's for local use only, which is all that is needed for 97% of buyers.
@@davidmccarthy6061 Lol, that's why I said 'killer feature'. Try and keep up, Dave. Who says no to something that would completely unlock your ability to conveniently travel anywhere they wanted to go? Also, it's crazy that you know how all these people are going to use their cars haha 🤡
@@natebaird NACS??? You must mean J3400, which is the correct current official designation.
Looks great??? The slightly larger boxer Jeep Avenger. Would make much more sense for the North American market.
I will grant you that looks are subjective. So I'd love to see both sold in North America. To see which one would sell better?
Allow the ability to turn off "features" like driving assist, location and bluetooth so its not always on
I had a 2013 500e which was the first year for the EV version and it was the best of the compliance EV’s, but Fiat lost money on every sale, so they really didn’t want to sell them. Mine had been leased in California and then the dealer was bringing them up to Washington by the truckload and people were buying them as fast as they could get them out of the truck. It was a great commuting car. I think the furthest I ever drove it was 57 miles to the airport. The airport had 50 outlets in the parking garage, the car was full when I came back.
I put 20k miles on it before I decided I wanted a car with fast charging and sold it.
They have become kind of cult favorites because I paid $6500 for mine in 2017 and I doubt they could be found for that now.
At the time I wished that it had fast charging and 150 miles of range. That’s not really enough for a long trip, but for me a trip to downtown Seattle was almost 50 miles, so I pretty much plugged it in anywhere I went.
With the seats down I could fit my folding e-bike in back and I could easily park in spots where pickup trucks couldn’t
Hoovie's Garage (youtube channel) just bought one for $700 at auction. They are worth nothing because after 10 years the battery packs hold no charge, have no range and cost $7500 to replace. More than the car is worth in the marketplace. You need to know that
@@624radicalham Hoovie is well known to overly dramatize if not outright lie in videos. What happened in one car doesn’t represent all cars. I wouldn’t believe anything in his EV videos without additional sources
@@kenmcclow8963 Well the fact is battery packs don't last, no one in America will repair the cells (there's only ONE shop in Bulgaria doing that as of 2024) and he DID pay $700 for a Fiat 500e. Those are the facts. It's just sad that there is no reasonable used car market for these EVs after only 10 years.
@@624radicalham there are a number of shops that repair or replace battery modules and cells. There is Gruber Motors and Electrified Garage that Rich Rebuilds owns with multiple locations, but there are a number that I don’t know the names of. I was listening to an interview with one guy in the south suburbs of Seattle just a few days ago.
There are probably aren’t enough considering the number of older cars that will be having original batteries die. However it’s also a limited issue because newer batteries are meant to last a million miles compared to the early 2010’s cars which die after 10-15 years.
The 2013-2019 Fiat might not have a aftermarket battery replacement like the first Leaf’s did. Fiat made it fairly clear they didn’t want to sell those cars and only made them because California wouldn’t let them sell pickup trucks otherwise.
My 2015 Tesla got totaled because it was eight years old and the car had two refreshes, so the parts for mine were getting rare. My battery was fine and probably ended up in some other car, but for lack of radiator brackets it was done in.
I love how they’re just pushing the old school 500 around
I think fiat has hit a home run with this 500e, especially if they bring a cabrio out that’s affordable , they’ll sell as many as they make . I’m looking for an open air electric car here in South Carolina and this if it’s affordable that’s less than 35,000 it’ll sell!
Did he say the navigation is powered by Tom Tom? Wow I forgot about that company.
I hope they've updated their system because in the past there were several states that didn't work with Tom Tom such as rural Wisconsin.
A car dealer near me imported dozens of these California 500e to sell them in our country. He told me that these sold terribly in the states and were never meant to be really used by people. They just had to be sold to meet Californian laws.
This is such a good car, people bash it too much but if you already have a big SUV this kind of tiny efficient car is a great addition, only problem is the price being a bit too high to justify it over a dirt cheap used Leaf or something of that sort.
When do these go on sale
Another great video from Roman and the TFL team, packed allot into it. Look forward to a deeper dive on the battery. What battery chemistry and curious about bidirectional charger. Next time getting some matching red shoes. 😅
What did you use to record the video? It was pretty stuttery.
That’s ridiculous I wouldn’t pay more then $20,000 for that. $32,500 is insane
Dude said it was a great price... then went on to say it's only good for 149mi lol they're in Ford Lightning Territory with that price
can you tell me any electric car on the market today that is below $25,000 ?? and remember those are made in Italy with very good workmanship, quality, reliability. I know they are reliable, i own a 2022 jeep renegade made in italy, very very reliable trouble free for almost a year, not a single issue. The inspirational nomad here in youtube has over 200,000 miles on a renegade and its still on the road.
Anyone that thinks that a good value for that car has some mental issue! There’s no way that car is worth $32k and only gives 149 miles. You can get a Chevrolet bolt for $26,500 same size if not bigger gives you 259 miles or you can step up to the bolt EUV that’s definitely bigger then that fiat for $27,800 and gives you 247 miles of range. Stelantis products are complete garage!
$25k was the magic number. $32.5k is too expensive, considering you can get a well equipped Bolt EV for probably less...
The Chevy Bolt is discontinued so no, you can't.
@@ducktails1695 they still have 2023 models in stock.
@@jeanmenieur So? That doesn't mean they're always in stock when the Fiat 500 is still sold. If they do then they must not be as good as you say they are. Otherwise they'd be selling out of them.
@ducktails1695 GM will bring it back in 2025. But ok, forget about the Bolt EV. Take a look at the Model 3: they start at $39k. When they become eligible for the point of sell tax credit the price will drop to $31,500. It makes no sense to buy a Fiat 500e at $32.5k when there are better options out there🙃.
@@jeanmenieur Just keep moving that goal post around....
I didn't hear if it was front or rear wheel drive??
The previous generation was front wheel drive, so I'd expect this one to be as well.
FWD.
If it had a range of about 225-240 I would consider replacing my 2013. If they could push the the battery up to about 52kw.....then it would be good for the states.
They get some points for not having a goofy mechanical gear selector for an EV like some of the other brands.
Bring the 500e abarth cabrio over to the US please
I’m with you. No Abarth trim, no sale.
Why did they remove the 3rd door?
Federal regulations don't allow it I believe was the answer in a different review where it was mentioned.
I loved my fiat 500E. Might have to treat myself to a new one
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Roman pretty tight huh. Can’t wait to see Roman getting in and out of the Porsche.
I've driven a 2018 500e for about two and a half years now. I had to stop watching this video. The 1st generation 500e was introduced in 2013, not "2015-ish" (I'm looking at a 2013 on CARFAX as I type) and had a battery pack running the entire underside of the vehicle, not "just in the back". Many of the reviews of the 1st gen 500e said it handled better than the ICE version because of the battery placement and low center of gravity. How is the head of Fiat NA so wrong about their own car?
2024 Fiat 500
City car
RRP: From £15,774
Dimensions: 3,571 mm L x 1,627 mm W x 1,488 mm H
Horsepower: 51 kW
Kerb weight: 980 kg
Fuel tank capacity: 35 L
Max speed: 103.8 mph
Wait. They sell a petrol model in Europe, yet I think he said there was no more petrol model. Is that a continuation of the previous model?
My 6 ft frame says i never will even if they gave it to me, is it THAT hard to make a small car with leg room and a taller roof line.
Yes, when they are going for the familiar profile of the 500. It is just like a Miata that fits a smaller amount of people. Not every car has to be for everyone.
14-19 - if they upped it to at least 100mi range, it would have been a major improvement in practicality.
The 0-60 doesn't explain the performance, 0-40 mph is exciting.
Mine has been super reliable.
6"2"" plenty xtra headroom.
The range is similar to a base model Gen2 Nissan Leaf (2018+) with 40 kWh battery. And you can buy one of them for around 15k, not going to be as cramped. Agree that the Fiat is cute, but cute doesn't mean a lot.
New Leaf is also very comfortable, better than most Nissans. Even the interior quality is higher in the Leaf, which is a very old model by modern standards
Love it - only thing it’s missing is J3400! 🎉
I like the product but for one thing - over the air updates. Thus means the potential to remotely brick the car. If they can prove the ECU/ECM can’t be remotely touched (almost impossible) then I’d consider it. The price isn’t really that bad at a 5 year amortization.
Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway - 2015
very nice! needs cabrio, abarth horsepower, and 250 miles of range.
"Good things are not new, and new things are not good". Gioachino Rossini.
I didn’t know “American” was a language. 😂
I started my journey through FIATdom why selling them, with a new 1974 128 2 door, then a 131, then a 124Spider, followed by some unfortunately unreliable Alfa Romeos... until a 2018 FIAT Abarth 500... that was a fun car as I was selling them again for that year. Now I saw a European 500e Abarth is on sale in the UK. Any chance of it coming here?
Can’t wait for the convertible version to be available. I’ll buy one!!
Tell this Stellantis exec that it’s either the Abarth version or nothing for many of us……bring the Abarth here now!!
Love it.
Cheers guys
They sell maybe 10k of these a year if they are lucky. Warm climate city cars are what these are
So almost everywhere because we are at the end of this ice age. The 50-70 degree Chicago winter this year was quite nice.
@@davidmccarthy6061 yeah, but we also had temperatures near zero too. It's just more bipolar now
I do feel as a city the original 500e would really hold up for just small trips and stuff
If they came out with a RWD/AWD I would be very interested.
Ask him why Fiat NA decided to scrap the 124 spider and leave us with no dealership support
Bring the 24' ABARTH GAS Model to the USA!
Looks like a go-kart.
A really ugly one
Go-Kart(s) are fun.
Every Ram 1500 comes with a free 500e.
I thought that Fiat was done in North America YEARS ago ...are you telling me they're STILL AROUND!?!?
This will be made in Serba where Yugo was made.
Stellantis, EV strategy in NA, shows no appreciation for NA sensibilities.
For example to sell the tiny rounded Fiat 500e, but not the slightly larger boxerJeep Avenger in NA is illogical. Is one of many examples.
34k is insanity
no, quite the contrary, that price is very reasonable considering the equipment you get, and how the car is beautiful, electric and dont forget the italian cachet, just like italian women, they are the best looking girls,
IDK why people STILL to this day expects vehicles to be in the upper teens to lower $20,000 range. Those days have long passed and if you do happen to see one it's an absolute POS.
Update. Stelantis is considering a hybrid propulsion for Fiat 500 as EV sales are collapsing.
When it adopts nacs sae 3400 it’ll be so much better!!
They should've kept the 2nd gen 500 electric, scandalously we didn't get it in Europe
umm 32grand? you know bolts euv like almost 300 miles and same price more room... 500e need to be no more than 25... price competition wise.
The Bolt is discontinued...So it doesn't really compete anymore.
Not for $32k . $22k, yes.
How about 24.5K after the credit? Even thousands less than that in some states.
@@davidmccarthy6061 Correct me if I am wrong, but Fiat does not qualify for the $7500 federal tax credit.
avg. car price is $50k these days.
@@gregpochet4812 if you lease it, you will get tax credit.
@@mixedbyfiatcat Not for a car that is a 2 seater and only gets 150 miles of range. My ID4 was only $6k more than this, Bolt EUV was $4k less. The 500e is not priced well for the non cult followers of this car.
They need to import into Jacksonville Port… or Tampa
I dont like them. An indian scout is way cooler and its just missing a roof
Just take my money !
They need to sell the electric Abarth in north America
1:13 Cracking little old car
More range to allow the owner to have a better chance of getting back to the dealer for repair.
It's about 10k too expensive. Put the gas motor back in it.
sorry, they are priced very very reasonably
at that price it's going to flop, given the range and size. i first leased a 2015 fiat 500e because it was $90 a month and $0 down, and then bought a used one for $7000 a few years later. i loved both, never any issues.
The All-New 2021 Fiat 500e Is Now Bigger And It Has THIS Much More Range!
87 miles is good enough to get back and forth to work and maybe one stop...dude how far are you driving!?
Soon we start our 50000km European Tour in a 53 year old Fiat 500R, check it out!!!
Ok, but why would you buy this when a base Model 3 only costs $3.5k more?
You will get some discounts!I can buy one here in Europa for around $25k if i am looking for the best deal!
@@brunoheggli2888 maybe a discount after depreciation, but owners can’t apply for the federal tax credits because it’s built in europe.
A lot of fools dropped in to trash a car they know nothing about
Old one kinda sucked, new one kinda sucks. I'd rather have the F56 MINI SE. 114mi vs 149mi isn't a huge difference, at least have it be well built and not so slow. You can get those pretty cheap used or heavily discounted on lease. Classy little thing instead of whatever 500e is trying to do.
I am also salty because at the time of the original 500e (then FCA) didn't care about it, want to service, or maintain these things. It had DCFC in mules, removed before launch. Infotainment was trash, plagued with dead modules. Their app and telematics literally had a 3 year time limit with no option to renew. It used a bespoke CAN system that made any kind of diagnostic temperamental. Repair parts were insanely expensive. It was also built like the after thought compliance EV it was. Not the kind of company I'd give money to twice.
Well I have a 2014 500e with 80,000 miles and other than a wheel bearing it’s been nearly perfect in terms of reliability. The Bosch designed battery is over 10 years old now and still doing great with minimal range lost so I say they did a good job with the old model. Not many EV’s can say the same. Hopefully the same will be true for this new one.
Lol 35-40k for 150 miles when you have a used Nissan Leaf under 15k for the same range 😅. That battery is pretty "big" for a low range
Hmmm I didn’t even know Fiat still sold cars in the US.
$32k!? No way it's worth that much. Maybe if a used one can be found for less than $10k in a year or two it might be worth it. Or a dirt cheap lease
It's called 500e everywhere bro, not used in the uneducated USofA!
FIAT - Fix It Again Tony
Dur dur dur.....FIAT is junk durrrrr
Vegan leather aka plastic/vinyl
The worst insult I ever heard is that I look like I would drive a Mini or Fiat.
Fiat has a huge image problem in the US. These are lifestyle cars. Not actually practical daily drivers to most folks. All I see driving these cars are old men and a few women. There was one kid in the area who straight piped his.
People were smaller.
Just needs a lil more range 😭
Didn’t finish the video as I lost interest. Looks like a good car for a 16 year old girl. Any price over 20k is wasted money. Sadly, a Leaf or Bolt is the line in the sand.
the bolt is so much cheaply made, no comaprison with that super 500e, its like sun and moon