It was my understanding that the two witnesses were to be Jewish. No? Technically, Enoch isn't Jewish as he was before Abraham. It's also likely that Elijah and Moses are the two witnesses as they were both at the Transfiguration. And these are the two that have been shown to have the abilities of the two witnesses (bringing fire down).
(No one went to Heaven before Jesus died on the cross for our sins). Jesus Himself said in (John 3:13) (13) And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven. All believers that died before Jesus' resurrection went to the grave, hades, (Abrahams bosom). Jesus said to the thief on the cross, "Today you will be with me in (Paradise). Then after those 3 days in the grave, Jesus ascended into Heaven with all the saints. (Eph 4:8) (8) Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
The Bible describes 3 (types of heavens). The atmosphere, the sky, the area around earth. The 2nd is in space, the sun, moon, and stars. And the 3rd, the abode of God, beyond the physical universe.
Thanks! When we don’t understand something we just trust in Lord Jesus Christ! One of his titles is the “beginning and the end” we sometimes like the beginnings the Lord gives us but we also have to like his endings since he always has our best interest in heart. “The Lord gives us but and the Lord take away blessed be the name of the Lord!” My testimony of this was I was playing a campaign on warhammer total war 2 and things were going great in my dwarven empire but than ratmen from the south raged through my southern boarders and I started to waver in my faith but than I remembered this and realized I was spending to much time on that game and the Lord wanted to end it so I could seek after him the only one who truly satisfies The Christ Lord Jesus!
@@Yesica1993 I didn’t re-state anything you said, and I agreed with what you did. How Do you figure that’s twisting your words? Maybe it’s you who needs clarity
In my HUMBLE OPINION....Who are WE to question Almighty GOD??...What buisness do we have to what God decides to HIS infinite power of DECISIONS and ACTIONS.... We need to be FOCUS on his worship and FAITH and WALK with our Lord JESUS CHRIST....❤😊
Because if someone asks you these questions, they will expect you to know the answer. If you don't know it, they can easily discredit you for the lack of knowledge you have. Knowing God's works makes you have a better relationship with the Father. The more you know, the better the relationship. I'm sure you wouldn't treat your spouse the same way you do God, so why treat God that way?
Not many people are going to like what you have said, So, let me add to the fire. Hebrews 11: We find Enoch in a list of names of those that died in faith. Yes, Enoch is dead and is in his grave. “These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.” Hebrews 11:13 They haven't received eternal life yet. It's the second death that God wanted to keep Enoch from. Rev, 20:15 John 5 28-29 All the dead are still in their graves waiting for the return of Christ, the first resurrection. keep growing your faith!
Before Christ died no one had entered Heaven, they went to Paradise. Christ explained it when He spoke of the rich man and Lazarus. The place is also called Abraham's bosom. It is not Heaven. Christ promised the thief, you shall be with me in Paradise. HE did not say Heaven 😊
You are misinterpreting that Scripture, not understanding it with spiritual knowledge.
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One theory is that Enoch and Elijah were taken by God not to heaven, but to the Garden of Eden, where they still are and from whence they shall emerge in the last days to preach against the Antichrist. Enoch will preach to the Gentiles, Elijah to the Jews.
It's best to stick to the teachings of Jesus. In the book of Hebrew 11:4-13; We find Enoch in a list of names of those that died in faith. Jesus has said, He's the only one that has died and went to heaven John 3:12-13, and in John 5:28-29 Jesus said that all the dead are still in their graves waiting for the return of Christ, the first resurrection. Believe Jesus and grow your faith!
If they are the two witnesses during the tribulation then it would be a further fulfillment of scripture in that Hebrews 9:27 says, "and it is appointed unto men once to die and then the judgement" According to scripture everyone dies.
It doesn't actually say everyone must or will. God has room for exceptions. Think if the Rapture, when we which remain will join with the dead to meet The Lord in the air 🎉🌅😋👑🥹
@@thethruthchannel 1 Corinthians 15:52, "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." ALL will be changed. Both alive and dead, changed into incorruptible.
You are saying Enoch and Elijah have yet to be judged, which suggests they could yet fail. If they have been judged, they are not coming back, but two like them are coming.
2 Chronicles 21:12 shows that though Elijah had been transported to heaven, he came back down and continued to live on earth. There are three heavens: where birds fly, where stars are, God's throne. Christ is the only human Who has been to God's throne. Enoch was translated to a place where he would not see death. Not seeing death and not dying are two different things. He was translated to the Garden of Eden where God resided and where there was no death. The flood swept the Garden away.
HEY!! I HAVE A QUESTION I’m not sure if this is the right interpretation but…. the curse of sin that was on the ground that Adam brought upon us… I think it was removed after Noah made a sacrifice of every animal…. “And to Adam he said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, ‘You shall not eat of it,’ cursed is the ground because of you; in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life;” Genesis 3:17 “Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man’s heart is evil from his youth. Neither will I ever again strike down every living creature as I have done. While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.”” Genesis 8:20-22 ESV So was the curse removed after Noah made the sacrifice? Or is God just promising to not add any more curses to the land?
The curse was the ground would produce thorns and thistles and our work would cause us to sweat, and whatever else He said. All those things are still with us.
2 Corinthians 12:2, Paul the Apostle writes, "I know a person in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven-whether in the body or out of the body I do not know; God knows". How do you people deal with this ???.
What is the probability that is not referring to a material journey but is a conceptual, metaphorical, thing meaning that you can not do and are not going to do that on your own human power? ➡Look at the context in which Jesus said that, He is talking to Nicodemus about the necessity of being born again. You are not going to ascend to heaven on your own human power, you can only get there by being born again in Christ who came from Heaven. ❓Why do so many people from materialistic western societies absolutely insist on surgically removing verses and even full chapter from their context, what's up with that? 🤔
When is the point of change? When Jesus rose, or sometime later? When the curtain in the Temple tore, the Most Holy Place, the representation of the throne of God, was revealed.
It doesn't say that they went to Heaven. Enoch walked with God and was not for God took him. Where? To Heaven? Not according to the Bible. But to Paradise which was in the heart of the earth where Jesus said He would be for three days and three nights is where he must have went. Paradise is now in Heaven and has been since after the resurrection of Jesus. Elijah was caught up in the sky. It doesn't say He went to Heaven as in the place of God's abode. But they are both there now.
We are sentenced to death but the world does not have to die as God says if you eat of this tree you will live forever so there is a way to conquer death, a way Elijah and Enoch found. We all do not have to die, but because this world goes their own way and knows not the lords ways as they laugh at God who is alone holy and pure they do not find they way to tree of life. God with love gave grace the world to all who believe he rose from the grave and conquered sin and the grave and gave the tree of life to the Christian as they laugh at God who is alone holy and pure dancing and singing we loved it that you can give us your son up on a cross for us and we loved it that he begged to not have the cross on his hands and knees before you begging and begging to take this cross away, as the Christians laugh at God who is alone holy and pure thinking God likes being the only one holy and pure as they show their scripture only God is good and satan is God of this world and we all need a savior to beg and become our slave of slaves carrying our sins for we all know the holy one in heaven is to stupid this side of heaven to make holy people and have to wait till heaven to be free from sin for we live in a corruptible minds and we all know it is impossible for the holy ghost to make anyone holy but he can sure beg like dog to not have the cross and suffer and die for us and cover us in this grace as we sing in a jolly tone only God is good and holy and satan is god of this world.
they did not die because god is not the god of the dead, but of the living, however their bodies were changed into spiritual bodies in their trasfiguration to heaven, when moses and elijah appeared with jesus, those with jesus recognized them, how could they recognize them when they never met them, or never seen an image of them, its because the person they really are inside was revealed to them, not the physical carnal body but the spiritual body , this is who they recognized, the bodies were changed like unto his glorious body, a body of light, jesus was transfigured into the body that was in heaven befroe he came to the world, right before their eyes, needless to say it freaked them out, because they were gonna build alters to each one, but jesus revealed to them what was happening, amen.
God bless you all in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Just as man is appointed to die once, and after that to face judgment, -Hebrews 9: 27 We know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin. For anyone who has died has been freed from sin. Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with Him. -Romans 6: 6-8 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed-in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. -1 Corinthians 52:53
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I appreciate that you take time out to make videos on scripture, but unless you do a deep dive into the original texts, you will only be spreading what has always been taught, and what has always been taught isn't always correct.
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1. The Bible did NOT say that Enoch was taken to heaven. 2. The Bible uses the word "heaven" in three ways: the atmosphere of the earth, outer space, and where God's throne is. So if Elijah was taken to the third heaven, God's throne room, in 2 Kings 2:11, then how did he, 20 years later, write a letter to the King Jehoram in 2 Chronicles 21:12-15? Both men died a natural death, just like everyone else who has ever lived.
This is one reason why you shouldn't listen to A.I. generated videos. Because they are way off. Enoch & Elijah Here is a counter argument about Enoch, Moses and Elijah - It is inconceivable that Moses and Elijah, or any other of the saints of God, should return from Paradise to suffer as these two witnesses; Moses died - it is appointed for man once to die. Hebrews 9:27 ALL MEN have this mandate. Otherwise this scripture is untrue. Elijah Died - Elijah was taken up by the whirlwind into “the heaven”, (shemayim in Hebrew which means the visible sky. The Hebrew word "shamayim" primarily refers to the heavens or the sky. It is used in the Bible to describe the physical expanse above the earth, including the atmosphere and outer space.) Shemayim can mean the dwelling of God however because of the context of 2 Chronicles 21:12-15 , This usage means the visible sky which was the common usage of this term. Elijah wrote a letter to King Jehoram 10 years later. (2 Chronicles 21: 12-15. ). This was after the firey chariot incident. He was taken to another location the same as Phillip was in Acts chapter 8, Elijah then was able to write the letter personally at the time of Jehoram’s sin and have it delivered through a courier. Enoch died but did not perceive his death. Hebrews 11:5 says that he was translated ( metatithemi in Greek) which primarily means to transfer or change the position of something. This word is used three times in this verse; twice for translated and once for "taken up". "He would not see death..." the word "see" is the Greek word horaó which means to perceive. If you were on your death bed, you would perceive that death was near. The same if you were wounded unto death. You would perceive it. Enoch was changed over without the perception of death. BUT HE DIED. How do we know? Enoch is listed in the "hall of faith" in Hebrews 11:5 If you read further down to Hebrews 11:13 the scripture says this: "THESE ALL DIED in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth." "ALL" means ALL. The scripture is clear. So to say that Enoch didn't die would be erroneous. But if someone wants to believe that Enoch and Elijah were taken to heaven to be with God... (even though the scripture plainly says; in John 3:13 And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. AND... "Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God" 1 Corinthians 15:50) they are certainly free to do so. As far as a literal interpretation of the two witnesses, Revelation 1:1 says; "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants-things which must shortly take place. And He sent and SIGNIFIED it by His angel to His servant John" Signified is the Greek word sémainó which means a sign or symbol. So we can understand it this way; " He symbolized it by His servant John." So we are supposed to read Revelation symbolically. Traditions can really mess up your understanding. "Wisdom is the principal thing; Therefore get wisdom. And in all your getting, get understanding." Proverbs 4:7
I do not know where you got the idea of Elijah writing to King Jehoram 10 years after he died, for 2 Kings 1 tells the story of Elijah calling down fire on two groups of soldiers because he prophesied against King Ahaziah of Israel about the second year of King Jehoram of Judah. Seems like plenty of time for Elijah to write Jehoram a letter, since he was coregent with his father at the time.
*John 21:25* 25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. If the world could not contain all that Christ did in 3 years; could the universe contain all that God did from Adam to Christ, or Adam to now? Paul states that what was written was for an example to us. *1 Corinthians 10:1-11* 1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. 5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness. 6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. 7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play. 8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand. 9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. 10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer. 11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. How many has God taken that has not seen death? No one can say just two, because we don’t know. Enoch was taken because he walked with God. No one else in 6,000 years has walked with God? The actions and powers of the two witnesses is that of Moses and Elijah. Does this mean it will be them? No, not for certain. John the Baptist had the spirit of Elijah; so the two witnesses could be the two Bob’s from Office Space upon whom God bestows the spiritual power of Moses and Elijah. To say that these two must be Enoch and Elijah because it is appointed unto man *once* to die denies the multiple miracles performed in both the Old and New Testaments where people were raised from the dead to die twice. It is only appointed that they should die once; so is Lazarus and the widows son hanging out with countless others waiting for the Trump of God to sound so they will be called home? Too many take scripture out of context and base opinions that deny the power of God. If God deemed it that Enoch and Elijah should not see death, that is fully within His power and choice to do. Hebrews does not say physical death. What will happen to those that are saved when the dead in Christ rise first, then we which are alive are caught up with them to be with the Lord in the air? Do all of us alive then fall over dead after those already dead are caught up because it is appointed that all must die once? The whole notion is preposterous. The Bible does not say who the two witnesses will be, and we cannot name names based on the extremely limited knowledge we have of what God has done or plans to do. As Isaiah stated, His ways and thoughts are higher than ours.
"Is anything too difficult for Me". I do not have to understand how to know it is true if it is within His power. We will see soon enough. The internet may make it possible, but He will not need it, and judging by some of the punishments, the internet may be down.
Interesting that you would say a thing about John the Baptist which contradicts what John the Baptist is recorded as saying about himself in the first chapter of John where in verse 21 priests and Levites asked John the Baptist directly, "Are you Elijah?" and he replied, "I am not."
@@scottfw7169 but it is written that John the Baptist did fulfill part of the Malachi prophecy. Not the entire thing. This means that another person will come and fulfill the prophecy completely.
That's why I think Enoch and Elijah will be the two witnesses because it's appointed unto man once to die and then the judgement
It was my understanding that the two witnesses were to be Jewish. No? Technically, Enoch isn't Jewish as he was before Abraham.
It's also likely that Elijah and Moses are the two witnesses as they were both at the Transfiguration. And these are the two that have been shown to have the abilities of the two witnesses (bringing fire down).
@TodaysDante except Moses died
@@mnight207 - True, but he was at the Transfiguration, about (how many)... 16 centuries after he died?
@TodaysDante which means nothing
@@mnight207 - Well then, in regard to who the witnesses are, Enoch being taken away means nothing too.
Both Enoch and Elijah are now immortal beings, in their resurrected, glorified body, and cannot ever be killed.
Right. Same with the Blessed Virgin Mary.
@@splashenful That is a lie. She was not taking alive bodily into Heaven like Elijah and Enoch. That is an RCC lie.
Glory to God, Lord Jesus Christ, Amen
What an extraordinary thing to experience or even just witness!
(No one went to Heaven before Jesus died on the cross for our sins). Jesus Himself said in (John 3:13) (13) And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven. All believers that died before Jesus' resurrection went to the grave, hades, (Abrahams bosom). Jesus said to the thief on the cross, "Today you will be with me in (Paradise). Then after those 3 days in the grave, Jesus ascended into Heaven with all the saints. (Eph 4:8) (8) Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
BUT 2 Kings 2:11 PLAINLY STATES that Elijah went UP TO HEAVEN.
The Bible describes 3 (types of heavens). The atmosphere, the sky, the area around earth. The 2nd is in space, the sun, moon, and stars. And the 3rd, the abode of God, beyond the physical universe.
Gods Word will not contradict itself when rightly divided.
@@MrSterlingfoster lets not overthink this...
Exactly 💯
Thanks! When we don’t understand something we just trust in Lord Jesus Christ! One of his titles is the “beginning and the end” we sometimes like the beginnings the Lord gives us but we also have to like his endings since he always has our best interest in heart. “The Lord gives us but and the Lord take away blessed be the name of the Lord!” My testimony of this was I was playing a campaign on warhammer total war 2 and things were going great in my dwarven empire but than ratmen from the south raged through my southern boarders and I started to waver in my faith but than I remembered this and realized I was spending to much time on that game and the Lord wanted to end it so I could seek after him the only one who truly satisfies The Christ Lord Jesus!
When we don't know, TRUST God, agree with statements in the first paragraph😊!
I do not believe that they were taken to the 3rd heaven where God is, and yes they both died a long time ago
What we "believe" is irrelevant. Christians must follow what God's Word teaches.
@Yesica1993 It’s because of the Bible that I believe what I had said, so I agree with you
@@JackmeriusTacktheritrix-000 Do not twist my words in any way. Is that clear?
@@Yesica1993 I didn’t re-state anything you said, and I agreed with what you did. How
Do you figure that’s twisting your words? Maybe it’s you who needs clarity
In my HUMBLE OPINION....Who are WE to question Almighty GOD??...What buisness do we have to what God decides to HIS infinite power of DECISIONS and ACTIONS....
We need to be FOCUS on his worship and FAITH and WALK with our Lord JESUS CHRIST....❤😊
Because if someone asks you these questions, they will expect you to know the answer. If you don't know it, they can easily discredit you for the lack of knowledge you have. Knowing God's works makes you have a better relationship with the Father. The more you know, the better the relationship. I'm sure you wouldn't treat your spouse the same way you do God, so why treat God that way?
John 3v13 " No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven-the Son of Man."
So they experienced death
Not many people are going to like what you have said, So, let me add to the fire. Hebrews 11: We find Enoch in a list of names of those that died in faith. Yes, Enoch is dead and is in his grave.
“These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.” Hebrews 11:13 They haven't received eternal life yet.
It's the second death that God wanted to keep Enoch from. Rev, 20:15
John 5 28-29 All the dead are still in their graves waiting for the return of Christ, the first resurrection. keep growing your faith!
@speedchaser4991 The truth is not often appreciated, be bless in Yehoshua 's Name from France
Before Christ died no one had entered Heaven, they went to Paradise. Christ explained it when He spoke of the rich man and Lazarus. The place is also called Abraham's bosom. It is not Heaven. Christ promised the thief, you shall be with me in Paradise. HE did not say Heaven 😊
Neither has DIED ON THE EARTH. Their "spirit" went to Heaven BEFORE death ON THE EARTH.
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You are misinterpreting that Scripture, not understanding it with spiritual knowledge.
One theory is that Enoch and Elijah were taken by God not to heaven, but to the Garden of Eden, where they still are and from whence they shall emerge in the last days to preach against the Antichrist. Enoch will preach to the Gentiles, Elijah to the Jews.
The bible does say that we will get a new body when we die. So how will Enoch and Elijah get a new body?
Don't know about anyone else, but I'm pretty sure that an omnipotent God who can create a material universe from scratch has a way to accomplish that.
If somebody is taken to Heaven without dying, the effect that it has on the people left behind is the same.
It's best to stick to the teachings of Jesus. In the book of Hebrew 11:4-13; We find Enoch in a list of names of those that died in faith.
Jesus has said, He's the only one that has died and went to heaven John 3:12-13, and in John 5:28-29 Jesus said that all the dead are still in their graves waiting for the return of Christ, the first resurrection. Believe Jesus and grow your faith!
If they are the two witnesses during the tribulation then it would be a further fulfillment of scripture in that Hebrews 9:27 says, "and it is appointed unto men once to die and then the judgement" According to scripture everyone dies.
Except those who are alive when Christ takes his own with him. Paul describes it quite clearly in Thessalonians.
@@Rpol_404I agree, and knew someone would mention that. The writer of Hebrews is clear as well and doesn't say 'except for'.
It doesn't actually say everyone must or will. God has room for exceptions. Think if the Rapture, when we which remain will join with the dead to meet The Lord in the air 🎉🌅😋👑🥹
@@thethruthchannel 1 Corinthians 15:52, "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." ALL will be changed. Both alive and dead, changed into incorruptible.
You are saying Enoch and Elijah have yet to be judged, which suggests they could yet fail. If they have been judged, they are not coming back, but two like them are coming.
2 Chronicles 21:12 shows that though Elijah had been transported to heaven, he came back down and continued to live on earth.
There are three heavens: where birds fly, where stars are, God's throne. Christ is the only human Who has been to God's throne. Enoch was translated to a place where he would not see death. Not seeing death and not dying are two different things. He was translated to the Garden of Eden where God resided and where there was no death. The flood swept the Garden away.
I read 1 Kings 1-2 to say differently from your interpretaion of 2 Chronicles 21.
HEY!! I HAVE A QUESTION
I’m not sure if this is the right interpretation but…. the curse of sin that was on the ground that Adam brought upon us… I think it was removed after Noah made a sacrifice of every animal….
“And to Adam he said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, ‘You shall not eat of it,’ cursed is the ground because of you; in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life;”
Genesis 3:17
“Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man’s heart is evil from his youth. Neither will I ever again strike down every living creature as I have done. While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.””
Genesis 8:20-22 ESV
So was the curse removed after Noah made the sacrifice? Or is God just promising to not add any more curses to the land?
Nothing in that passage says that God removed the curse, what it says is that He will not again do that thing He did.
The curse was the ground would produce thorns and thistles and our work would cause us to sweat, and whatever else He said. All those things are still with us.
2 Corinthians 12:2, Paul the Apostle writes, "I know a person in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven-whether in the body or out of the body I do not know; God knows". How do you people deal with this ???.
Talking about hi.self. why He was given an unremoveable thorn: to keep him humble.
He's referring to john the author of revelation
@@johnirish989 The question is being asked of people who believe no one has accended to Heaven but the Lord.
Didn't Jesus say, no one has ascended to the father, but he who came from the father. Theirs no one in heaven now
What is the probability that is not referring to a material journey but is a conceptual, metaphorical, thing meaning that you can not do and are not going to do that on your own human power? ➡Look at the context in which Jesus said that, He is talking to Nicodemus about the necessity of being born again. You are not going to ascend to heaven on your own human power, you can only get there by being born again in Christ who came from Heaven. ❓Why do so many people from materialistic western societies absolutely insist on surgically removing verses and even full chapter from their context, what's up with that? 🤔
@scottfw7169 I don't read things into it that aren't there. That's what he said, seems pretty clear to me
When is the point of change? When Jesus rose, or sometime later? When the curtain in the Temple tore, the Most Holy Place, the representation of the throne of God, was revealed.
Praise Jesus
If you are speaking of the second Enoch, he did die. In Hebrews there is a list of people who DIED having not seen the promise. Enoch is listed there.
They are called the 2 olive trees
Love the cover photo
How could anyone have eternal life or access to Heaven before their sin debt was paid in full by the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ?
Revelation 13:8 - what became true on earth was already true in Heaven.
It doesn't say that they went to Heaven. Enoch walked with God and was not for God took him. Where? To Heaven? Not according to the Bible. But to Paradise which was in the heart of the earth where Jesus said He would be for three days and three nights is where he must have went. Paradise is now in Heaven and has been since after the resurrection of Jesus. Elijah was caught up in the sky. It doesn't say He went to Heaven as in the place of God's abode. But they are both there now.
Why would theologians want to deceive the church by saying that eg Moses ans Elijah would be the 2 witness?
I just saw a MUST SEE video 'the great shaking' showing prophecy being fulfilled, it is staggering!! It's on the channel 'follow the lamb today'
We are sentenced to death but the world does not have to die as God says if you eat of this tree you will live forever so there is a way to conquer death, a way Elijah and Enoch found. We all do not have to die, but because this world goes their own way and knows not the lords ways as they laugh at God who is alone holy and pure they do not find they way to tree of life. God with love gave grace the world to all who believe he rose from the grave and conquered sin and the grave and gave the tree of life to the Christian as they laugh at God who is alone holy and pure dancing and singing we loved it that you can give us your son up on a cross for us and we loved it that he begged to not have the cross on his hands and knees before you begging and begging to take this cross away, as the Christians laugh at God who is alone holy and pure thinking God likes being the only one holy and pure as they show their scripture only God is good and satan is God of this world and we all need a savior to beg and become our slave of slaves carrying our sins for we all know the holy one in heaven is to stupid this side of heaven to make holy people and have to wait till heaven to be free from sin for we live in a corruptible minds and we all know it is impossible for the holy ghost to make anyone holy but he can sure beg like dog to not have the cross and suffer and die for us and cover us in this grace as we sing in a jolly tone only God is good and holy and satan is god of this world.
GOD took them to set an example of The Rapture.
There are 5 raptures at different times to different groups of elect. Listed at the end of each chapter in 1 thessalonians.
God had other plans for them like the two witness's in the Book of Revelation.
The Bible does not say God took them to heaven. It says he took them.
Elijah went up in a chariot bro
they did not die because god is not the god of the dead, but of the living, however their bodies were changed into spiritual bodies in their trasfiguration to heaven, when moses and elijah appeared with jesus, those with jesus recognized them, how could they recognize them when they never met them, or never seen an image of them, its because the person they really are inside was revealed to them, not the physical carnal body but the spiritual body , this is who they recognized, the bodies were changed like unto his glorious body, a body of light, jesus was transfigured into the body that was in heaven befroe he came to the world, right before their eyes, needless to say it freaked them out, because they were gonna build alters to each one, but jesus revealed to them what was happening, amen.
Who told you that they didn’t die? Flesh and blood cannot enter the Kingdom.
Flesh suit burned off at the gates of heaven 😂
Precisely the reason I think they will not return as the two witnesses.
God bless you all in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Just as man is appointed to die once, and after that to face judgment, -Hebrews 9: 27
We know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin. For anyone who has died has been freed from sin. Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with Him. -Romans 6: 6-8
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed-in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. -1 Corinthians 52:53
Because they are special being.Birn and reused by God many times through history to fulfill His will.Jesus said it best when He said, John the Baptist was actually Elijah.Andcwhen Jesus was facing the emanate cross God sent Enoch,Elijah through the dimensions to comfort Jesus.Ajdcupdate Him on instructions from Jesus's Father,to finalize the death,burial,and resurrection.
I appreciate that you take time out to make videos on scripture, but unless you do a deep dive into the original texts, you will only be spreading what has always been taught, and what has always been taught isn't always correct.
Maybe take out the images of God? I’m not sure they were to be taken that way
Revelation 2:17, I received a white stone, it just mysteriously appeared in my KJV bible,
John 14:26, 🕊14:6, 🌹3:3-5, 💧repent,✝️
Proverbs 9:10, wisdom
Matthew 10:28, hell
Revelation 2:28, the morning star
Jacobs Star
The Bethlehem star
Ezekiel vision
Elijah was taken
🛸 ophanim, ?
Or
Von Dutch, the flying eyeball, 😜
1. The Bible did NOT say that Enoch was taken to heaven.
2. The Bible uses the word "heaven" in three ways: the atmosphere of the earth, outer space, and where God's throne is. So if Elijah was taken to the third heaven, God's throne room, in 2 Kings 2:11, then how did he, 20 years later, write a letter to the King Jehoram in 2 Chronicles 21:12-15?
Both men died a natural death, just like everyone else who has ever lived.
Melchizedek did not die.
This is one reason why you shouldn't listen to A.I. generated videos. Because they are way off.
Enoch & Elijah
Here is a counter argument about Enoch, Moses and Elijah -
It is inconceivable that Moses and Elijah, or any other of the saints of God, should return from Paradise to suffer as these two witnesses;
Moses died - it is appointed for man once to die. Hebrews 9:27 ALL MEN have this mandate. Otherwise this scripture is untrue.
Elijah Died - Elijah was taken up by the whirlwind into “the heaven”, (shemayim in Hebrew which means the visible sky. The Hebrew word "shamayim" primarily refers to the heavens or the sky. It is used in the Bible to describe the physical expanse above the earth, including the atmosphere and outer space.) Shemayim can mean the dwelling of God however because of the context of 2 Chronicles 21:12-15 , This usage means the visible sky which was the common usage of this term.
Elijah wrote a letter to King Jehoram 10 years later. (2 Chronicles 21: 12-15. ). This was after the firey chariot incident. He was taken to another location the same as Phillip was in Acts chapter 8, Elijah then was able to write the letter personally at the time of Jehoram’s sin and have it delivered through a courier.
Enoch died but did not perceive his death. Hebrews 11:5 says that he was translated ( metatithemi in Greek) which primarily means to transfer or change the position of something. This word is used three times in this verse; twice for translated and once for "taken up".
"He would not see death..." the word "see" is the Greek word horaó which means to perceive.
If you were on your death bed, you would perceive that death was near. The same if you were wounded unto death. You would perceive it. Enoch was changed over without the perception of death. BUT HE DIED. How do we know?
Enoch is listed in the "hall of faith" in Hebrews 11:5 If you read further down to Hebrews 11:13 the scripture says this:
"THESE ALL DIED in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth."
"ALL" means ALL.
The scripture is clear. So to say that Enoch didn't die would be erroneous.
But if someone wants to believe that Enoch and Elijah were taken to heaven to be with God...
(even though the scripture plainly says; in John 3:13 And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. AND...
"Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God" 1 Corinthians 15:50)
they are certainly free to do so.
As far as a literal interpretation of the two witnesses, Revelation 1:1 says;
"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants-things which must shortly take place. And He sent and SIGNIFIED it by His angel to His servant John"
Signified is the Greek word sémainó which means a sign or symbol. So we can understand it this way; " He symbolized it by His servant John." So we are supposed to read Revelation symbolically.
Traditions can really mess up your understanding.
"Wisdom is the principal thing; Therefore get wisdom. And in all your getting, get understanding."
Proverbs 4:7
I do not know where you got the idea of Elijah writing to King Jehoram 10 years after he died, for 2 Kings 1 tells the story of Elijah calling down fire on two groups of soldiers because he prophesied against King Ahaziah of Israel about the second year of King Jehoram of Judah. Seems like plenty of time for Elijah to write Jehoram a letter, since he was coregent with his father at the time.
They did die you have a whole team and y’all never read Hebrews 11 and John 3:13
Have you never seen Jeremiah 32:27?
2:44
Interesting.
*John 21:25*
25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
If the world could not contain all that Christ did in 3 years; could the universe contain all that God did from Adam to Christ, or Adam to now?
Paul states that what was written was for an example to us.
*1 Corinthians 10:1-11*
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
How many has God taken that has not seen death? No one can say just two, because we don’t know. Enoch was taken because he walked with God. No one else in 6,000 years has walked with God?
The actions and powers of the two witnesses is that of Moses and Elijah. Does this mean it will be them? No, not for certain. John the Baptist had the spirit of Elijah; so the two witnesses could be the two Bob’s from Office Space upon whom God bestows the spiritual power of Moses and Elijah.
To say that these two must be Enoch and Elijah because it is appointed unto man *once* to die denies the multiple miracles performed in both the Old and New Testaments where people were raised from the dead to die twice. It is only appointed that they should die once; so is Lazarus and the widows son hanging out with countless others waiting for the Trump of God to sound so they will be called home?
Too many take scripture out of context and base opinions that deny the power of God. If God deemed it that Enoch and Elijah should not see death, that is fully within His power and choice to do. Hebrews does not say physical death. What will happen to those that are saved when the dead in Christ rise first, then we which are alive are caught up with them to be with the Lord in the air? Do all of us alive then fall over dead after those already dead are caught up because it is appointed that all must die once?
The whole notion is preposterous. The Bible does not say who the two witnesses will be, and we cannot name names based on the extremely limited knowledge we have of what God has done or plans to do. As Isaiah stated, His ways and thoughts are higher than ours.
…neither did the Blessed Virgin Mary!!
can you tell me how you know this?
How does the Lord appear to the whole world at the same time if we are on a globe? Wouldn't half the world not be able to see his return!
Internet and live streaming. Tech is what will make it possible.
"Is anything too difficult for Me". I do not have to understand how to know it is true if it is within His power. We will see soon enough. The internet may make it possible, but He will not need it, and judging by some of the punishments, the internet may be down.
John the Baptist was Elijah , Jesus Christ the LORD said it . The church mostly can’t receive but I believe it
Interesting that you would say a thing about John the Baptist which contradicts what John the Baptist is recorded as saying about himself in the first chapter of John where in verse 21 priests and Levites asked John the Baptist directly, "Are you Elijah?" and he replied, "I am not."
@@scottfw7169 but it is written that John the Baptist did fulfill part of the Malachi prophecy. Not the entire thing. This means that another person will come and fulfill the prophecy completely.
@@scottfw7169 Was John the Baptist denying he was "Elijah" as the Scriptures said, or as the people understood it? Their expectation of Jesus was off.
Enoch and Elijah *Might* be the Two Witnesses / Some say Noha May also be one of the witnesses