So fyi most stis have clutch type lsds in front and in the later years they went helical in the rear. For instance my 05 sti has clutch type lsds in front and rear meaning they’re a lot better than helical/torsen lsds. For whatever reason they went torsen in the rear in the later years and then even went helical front as well. Helical is great around a track if one wheel doesn’t lose traction. But if one loses traction it acts like an open diff. The benefit with clutch type diffs is when one wheel loses traction it reverts to locking the diff and splitting the power evenly. And you can also tune clutch type lsds to behave how you want unlike viscous or helical lsds.
the focus rs uses GKN made awd system with twinster rear drive unit its not haldex or even made by haled fyi. its a lot better system than a haldex. Very similar to the evo awd. Also only a few 2018 rs had the lid up front the rest are all open thats why a lsd is a huge upgrade. Also straight from gkn the focus can send 100 percent to the rear and vector it between each rear wheel if needed. it's overdriven by 1.8. Also the rs is permanently coupled and uses clutches in the rear that are electronically controlled to divide between the 2 rear wheels.
Great video overall, but I think you should redo the Focus RS bits. It has a much more interesting AWD system than you make it sound - the driveshaft to the rear always spins, and then electronic clutch packs can grab it whenever the system wants - so if one clutch pack fully engages, suddenly a full 70% of the power goes to that rear wheel.
For Torque or break vectoring systems, could that jerk car if the surface has uneven grip here there? I see rally cars run thru uneven grip surface whether there be some snow, ice, dirt, mixed with tarmac but intuitively if the car gives more torque where there’s more traction, could that swing the car unpredictably due to unpredictably of the surface?
No lsd, no torque vectoring like in sawc, but a simple 4wd with manual option for 2wd, or lock. If I'm not wrong: Up to 40% traction to rear wheels. I also have that car. Also, above 35mph it has internal braking of tires to follow the curve.
Isn't there a distinction between the quattro variants within the different generations as well? like i thought the MQB platform prior to 2022 for both VW and Audi (in things like the A3 line, Golf, SQ2, T-Roc, T-Cross, etc.) all use the haldex set up that you mentioned for the Mk 7 Golf R, rather than just a general quattro across the board? Other than that dude good video, would be interesting to see how the BMW xDrive and the Mercedes 4Matic work too!
yes haldex based Quattro is for tranverse mounted engines and the real all time awd Quattro is for longitudinal based engines. there are a few differnt gens of the real Quattro for instance my b5s4 is gen 4.
I would love if the answer was the EVO X.I am looking to buy one but I really want to have some fun in the corners while having the safety of AWD.So few videos in youtube showing EVOs drifting or powersliding.Focus RS is ugly af
@@str8edge142 my man, I’m an Evo guy too, I’ve owned mine for almost 4 years now, and let me tell you… it’s a magical experience that other cars on that list simply won’t offer. You won’t regret it.
AWD for the win!
So fyi most stis have clutch type lsds in front and in the later years they went helical in the rear. For instance my 05 sti has clutch type lsds in front and rear meaning they’re a lot better than helical/torsen lsds. For whatever reason they went torsen in the rear in the later years and then even went helical front as well. Helical is great around a track if one wheel doesn’t lose traction. But if one loses traction it acts like an open diff. The benefit with clutch type diffs is when one wheel loses traction it reverts to locking the diff and splitting the power evenly. And you can also tune clutch type lsds to behave how you want unlike viscous or helical lsds.
I have an A4 Quattro Open/64:40 Torsen/Open with brake vectoring at both axles.
It's certainly not the most advanced but it does the job. 🤙😗
the focus rs uses GKN made awd system with twinster rear drive unit its not haldex or even made by haled fyi. its a lot better system than a haldex. Very similar to the evo awd. Also only a few 2018 rs had the lid up front the rest are all open thats why a lsd is a huge upgrade. Also straight from gkn the focus can send 100 percent to the rear and vector it between each rear wheel if needed. it's overdriven by 1.8. Also the rs is permanently coupled and uses clutches in the rear that are electronically controlled to divide between the 2 rear wheels.
you basically reiterated much of what i said. I used haldex as an analogy.
Is not focus rs's awd prone to overheat very easily, I think evo x is ahead of focus rs in that important area.
Great video overall, but I think you should redo the Focus RS bits. It has a much more interesting AWD system than you make it sound - the driveshaft to the rear always spins, and then electronic clutch packs can grab it whenever the system wants - so if one clutch pack fully engages, suddenly a full 70% of the power goes to that rear wheel.
@@Wallstreetavarice that’s basically how I explained it
Wow❤
For Torque or break vectoring systems, could that jerk car if the surface has uneven grip here there? I see rally cars run thru uneven grip surface whether there be some snow, ice, dirt, mixed with tarmac but intuitively if the car gives more torque where there’s more traction, could that swing the car unpredictably due to unpredictably of the surface?
I’m not so experience but that’s why an lsd sounds like the best bet for predictability
I have a lancer se awc So what type of system do I have on my car please
That is the Lancer Evolution X's S-AWC (super all wheel control system) so in my opinion, one if the best AWD ever made
No lsd, no torque vectoring like in sawc, but a simple 4wd with manual option for 2wd, or lock. If I'm not wrong: Up to 40% traction to rear wheels. I also have that car. Also, above 35mph it has internal braking of tires to follow the curve.
Isn't there a distinction between the quattro variants within the different generations as well? like i thought the MQB platform prior to 2022 for both VW and Audi (in things like the A3 line, Golf, SQ2, T-Roc, T-Cross, etc.) all use the haldex set up that you mentioned for the Mk 7 Golf R, rather than just a general quattro across the board? Other than that dude good video, would be interesting to see how the BMW xDrive and the Mercedes 4Matic work too!
There certainly are many variants but the video would have been much longer if I covered them all haha
yes haldex based Quattro is for tranverse mounted engines and the real all time awd Quattro is for longitudinal based engines. there are a few differnt gens of the real Quattro for instance my b5s4 is gen 4.
which system drifts/powerslide sustains the easiest???
I haven’t driven all the cars but I would assume the focus rs
I would love if the answer was the EVO X.I am looking to buy one but I really want to have some fun in the corners while having the safety of AWD.So few videos in youtube showing EVOs drifting or powersliding.Focus RS is ugly af
@@str8edge142 my man, I’m an Evo guy too, I’ve owned mine for almost 4 years now, and let me tell you… it’s a magical experience that other cars on that list simply won’t offer. You won’t regret it.
Evo 20 years old😅
almost yea