🔵How & WHY we Feed THICK Syrup to our Bees
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2022
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Pollen patties made with syrup - ua-cam.com/video/46QNmHh1XTg/v-deo.html
Feed Pump/Rig with diluted sugar syrup ua-cam.com/video/J9pSC4CO-vo/v-deo.html
I made 1:2 this year for my new bees, very thin, and boy they are drawing comb like crazy... You talked about this in a previous video and it works well...thank you from me and from my bees😊😊😊😎
No sweat Claude. It really helps me at certain times of the years too. Love new comb!
Is that:
1. one part sugar, two parts water or
2. two parts water, one part sugar?
Also, what video are you referring to? I'd like to watch that.
Thanks.
Ive mixed my own syrup at only slightly warmed water and bottled it and stored for months….it only crystallizes when it is in the drip feeder. I changed to the bucket feeder and solved the problem.
great video
I agree with you on the ease of that syrup. Our MannLake is only a two hour drive. It's on the way to the mountain house anyway. I stop in and pick up a few pails of syrup. It's convenient and easy.
As for the bees taking the syrup, I've never seen a problem either way. But, you have a lot more bees than I do so you'll observe more. I also think it's important to feed right after extraction due to the stress on the bees being packed into a smaller area. So, that hydrogen peroxide is likely a healthy natural addition to the feeding.
Very interesting about how bees preference nectar over actual ripe honey, yesterday I put out some honey buckets for the bees to clean up, but I saw next to no bees attending, more wasps/yellow jackets, so maybe there is something in the h2o2 thing.
Hey Kamon , hope all is well with the bees, hope to get to see your honey harvest and extracting video , your awesome dude, oh and by the way GO!! TIGERS!!!!!🤣🤣🤣❤❤🤪🤪🤪😂😂
When I mix my sugar water together I use hot water to make sure that the sugar dissolves, also I add honey bee healthy and amino acids. I started to use the frame feeders and the bees are just drinking that stuff down. Keep up the good work on videos will talk to you soon.
Great video Kamon. Thanks for sharing
Also have to take into account you can sell totes to offset cost.
Thanks for sharing valuable content Kamon 🍀 👍🇺🇲
Thanks !!
Thanks for sharing!!!
Sucrose dextrose fructose potato corn molasses are alternating sugars for bees
👍good job
Hi Kamon. Would you do a video teaching the difference between a hobbyist inspection and a commercial inspection. I’m at 40 hives on bottom boards and need to streamline inspections for efficiency. Thank you.
Hmmmm... you talk about feeding in the summer and in the winter. It makes me wonder how much honey we purchase at the store is just bee-recycled sugar? I understand bees needing to eat, and I'm all for that, but has commercial honey production just come down to getting bees to create honey out of sugar water rather than nectar?
Commercial beekeepers aren't the problem. You only feed syrup when there is no nectar flowing in and the surplus honey is removed. Foreign imports from countries like China are where 90% of the fake honey comes from. They ship cheap rice syrup and corn syrup mixed with honey and small amounts of pollen to disguise the adulterated barrels of "honey" that come to the USA.
Feeding bees correctly is like feeding horses hay.
@@kamonreynolds I wasn't really thinking in terms of fake honey from China, I was commenting on the hundreds of gallons of sugar syrup on the truck. Is all of this sugar syrup going to be consumed by the bees during the derth (I think that's what you guys call it) or is it also being made into honey? If it's being made into honey, doesn't that mean the honey that you'll be harvesting later is actually made from sugar water?
I'm just learning here, so seeing the syrup made me curious. You also talk about feeding them after you removed the "surplus honey." Does that mean you leave them with none of the food they made from nectar, or were they making honey mostly from sugar syrup to begin with?
I guess I always assumed that honey was made from nectar, it never occurred to me that store bought honey might actually be just concentrated processed sugar.
I've been watching a lot of videos on beekeeping because it fascinates me. I've seen some videos on feeding sugar, but I had assumed it was a rare thing until I saw those huge containers on your truck! I had no idea the volume of sugar that commercial beekeepers feed their bees.
@@hollybromley47 Generally syrup is given to the bees after the honey supers are removed. The syrup basically supplements the hive with the sugar they need for energy. They will store that sugar syrup in the brood chamber because we've removed the honey supers. That syrup stays with the bees to use. When the nectar flows begin again we add supers, stop feeding and allow them to put nectar in the honey supers. So, the syrup doesn't mix with the new honey.
I hope I explained it correctly for you.
@@beebob1279 Perfect explanation, thank you!
I agree with the 1:1. I place out the leftover honey buckets from the last extraction right next to the feeding bucket with 1:1 sugar water. Thousand of bees on the sugar water, a hand full on the leftover honey. Makes you think why is that?🤔
I do 66/33% in warm weather, they probably can use the extra water. Autumn, they get 50/50.
Great video Kamon. You mentioned that the trash pump won't handle the syrup as you purchase it. How do you transfer that syrup? Is there a different pump that needs to be used? Thanks so much.
Did you pull that with the fire truck? If you did I'll bet it smoothed the ride out.
Hey Randy! Used a buddies diesel to grab it. Yes it smooths the truck out big time though!
Laurel gave you the sigh when you left. 😂
I read the following information somewhere. I'm curious about your opinion on this matter.
Liquid Invertase Enzyme
No matter how much sugar is mixed with water or heat is applied, it is very difficult for bees to fully digest it because its molecular structure is large. For this reason, bees cannot eat fully and healthily. In addition, as the undigested sugar is thrown out, it causes financial harm to the producer. Thanks to the syrups produced with Invertase Enzyme, bees eat healthy and spend the winter much more comfortably. (Tekirdağ Namık Kemal University & Trakya University)
The main purpose of invert syrups is to keep the Bee healthy and as complete as possible. On the other hand, preventing the syrup from becoming sugary is important in extending its shelf life, but this should not be the first priority.
After the honey harvest, the food stock in the hives is supplemented with sugar syrups. While transferring the sugar syrup to the honeycombs, the bees break down the sucrose in the syrup into glucose and fructose, using their own biological resources and 23% of the fed syrup for this process. This tires the bees and they enter the winter tired. In order to prevent bee fatigue caused by the processing of syrup, it will be useful to support the bees with prepared foods - for example, inverted sugar syrup. The inverted sugar sucrose breaks down into glucose and fructose, so using such products will be less tiring for the bees. Lithuanian Agricultural Institute (Instituto Aleja 1, Akademija, 58344 Kedainiai distr.)
Some researchers report that there will be no spoilage problem with invert syrup.
Invertase syrup is made by many different methods. Such as organic acids, yeasts, tartars and hydrolysis methods. However, a high quality syrup is obtained by the use of the enzyme invertase to break down sucrose. This enzyme found in honey breaks down sucrose into glucose and fructose. Therefore, it is possible to make invert syrup by using natural honey.
Old honey or insufficiently inverted syrup rich in HMF is not suitable for feeding cicadas, as the substance in question is poisonous to bees. Jachimovicz and Sherbiny revealed in 1975 that HMF was responsible for bee deaths. They report that the amount of 15mg/100g HMF in commercially acid-hydrolyzed invert sugar syrup is lethal to bees. When fed with sugar syrup containing 15mg/100g HMF, an average of 58% of the bees died within 20 days. Amounts of 3mg/100g and 6mg/100g HMF are harmless to bees. As a result, many experts argue that the amount of HMF in invert sugar syrups should not exceed 2mg/100g, which is seen in many honeys. Invert sugar syrup should only be used after controlling the amount of HMF in it.
My questions are a lil off subject but
relevant to me since I don't have syrup to dilute.
When making sugar water feed whats the optimal ratio?
After watching this video and scrolling the comments what I'm getting out of it is thinner is better?
I been doing 1:1 (4lb:4lb) with the lower end of the recommended dose for a half gal of honey bee healthy and amino b booster.
Question 2 should I be dosing based on a gallon (Sugar and water) or half gallon (water im adding to the sugar)?
How did you dilute the fluid from the tank to a 1 to 1 consistency before putting it into the beehive?
Hello dear Kamon. Is there a difference for bees between enzyme-inverted sugar syrup instead of sugar syrup? In other words, which is more nutritious or less harmful for bees?
Thanks
If my alarm rings me awake, I'll be at the chat at 02.00 skarp 😉
I got rid of 1/3 of the "djungle" tonight... I might be a bit weary...
That thumbnail bro 😂
loved your video on veroa control the old way where you blew up a hive lol is it normal for 1 hive to finish of 1/2 gallon of syrup in a day and a pollen patty i get from tsc in 3 days or are my bees just pigs. they sill bring in pollen and nectar and its a double brood box no super
Haha! 100% mite control! I am STILL finding pieces of that nuc we nuked 😂
Yes! It is normal for strong healthy bees to eat that much. A strong double deep in a dearth will suck down a gallon in my frame feeders in day.
Kamon, the sweet talking guy 😁
As for the dilution & bees preferring the more diluted mix, I guess it would be like us drinking defrosted concentrated juice, we can do it but it is not so palatable & we'd get thirsty.
Those large totes, is there a deposit on them so they are returned or do you repurpose them?
Good question. I see them on the farms I keep my hives, but I don't know what they've used them for. I would assume those at the farm are used to store pesticides, herbicides, and fungicides. So, they wouldn't be any help to me.
You mentioned using the syrup to make pollen patties, do you have a video on that? Thanks for all your work.
I do it is in our pollen patties playlist. I will see if I can find it
Kamon, I have a question regarding 1:1 vs. 2:1.
Why not feed your bees 2:1 anytime you feed them, regardless of the time of year? Is it strictly cost associated?
They utilize the thinner mix faster. On the flip side, the thicker mix better for cooler temps due to less moisture
how much is the Pro Sweet in comparison to sugar mix? I notice that a lot of commercial guys take all the honey they can and replace later with syrup. Is that cost effective? As a hobbyist, I leave upper supper full of honey, rarely feed in the fall.
39 cents a pound for this syrup. Hobby beekeepers sell honey for 10 bucks a pound. Much cheaper.
thanks. i was just curious about the economics. it makes sense now. I only have 5 hives so all honey goes to friends and family...good luck getting some money from them, haha
What your ratio of sugar to water for winter bricks. I have the shims ready and just wanted to know your suggestion, I’m in Long Island New York and we still have a little ways to go with the nectar flow before fall. With 8 hive’s it’s sugar syrup 1:1 I feed but the sugar bricks this year will be my first time making them. Thanks again to you and Laurel for the informative videos.
Question. When can you come feed my bees 🐝
Does pro sweet go sour when cutting it to 1:1 & 2:1 like sugar syrup does?
Yes it does. We use it quick and anything that is left in the tank can get hive alive, pro health, or honey bee healthy to retard fermentation till the next week.
Do you feed Pollen Pattie’s while you were giving your hive mite treatments?
Sugar must be cheap and widely available in Tennessee
If we invert regular sugar ourselves does it work like pro sweet?
Kamon, how much water do you add to pro-sweet to make a 1 to 1 (pound or gallon)?
It says on the paper at the beginning of the video.
@@kamonreynolds Could you put that on as a link?
@@kamonreynolds Thanks Kamon, I have really slow internet speed and the youtube videos are adjusted for that with lower resolution, the paper showed fuzzy text. Once I set it to high resolution the text appeared. Sorry about that.
Will this ferment? How many gallons are in that tote? Total weight to haul tote?
3000 lb roughly. Won't ferment till you add water
Hope it’s not HFCS, ITS IN EVERYTHING, except available in Europe for serious health damage reasons
How much water do you add to pro sweet for 1 to1 and 2 to 1?
It says on the paper at the beginning of the video.
Thank you
Where do you purchase this syrup??
Mann lake branch's
Mine was Clarkson KY
First to like Kamon, come on I have to win the apimaye hive lmfao!!!!
Hi Francis! We are going to have a crazy big giveaway when we hit 50,000 subs! Stay tuned!
@@kamonreynolds ha ha ha ha ha wahooooooooo I’m in with a chance lol. I’m just an Irish immigrant trying to have a laugh is all, no pressure intended but I will need that apimaye by Monday!!
What syrup is this I'm don't know.
How much for a tote ?
Kamon, live chat tonight?
I think the underlying truth that you're not telling your audience is that s*** is expensive. It is a lot cheaper to water it down.
You do know that once the bees dehydrate it down it has the same mass as it did before I diluted it.
The same amount of energy is produced either way.