As a Thai person I did not expect an actual recording of a monk praying in (supposedly) a funeral in Thailand to come out of this video! It totally caught me off guard lol.
Was unaware about these kinds of "albums." It seems like its a big collab with a bunch of nerds, and thats pretty sick. Reminds me of those Ralph Bakshi movies, and Ralph will record NYC life and have that be the audio of the movie. Idk, pretty neat
Did you read the wiki article on adlib gold? It straight up accuses Creative Labs (and Yamaha) of sabotaging Adlib by paying Yamaha to delay approval of its gold chipset to give CL a years head start on 32bit sound cards.
I remember working on my siblings field recordings for thier uni dissertation, walking about with a big fluffy microphone getting plenty of weird looks. Still have so many memories of hunting for interesting soundscapes
@@rockapartie ah man it was so long ago, all I remember was walking around edingbrugh Christmas Market. I remember they made a website for it. I need to find it again
"Welcome back to mood music with your host DJ Clint. Today we will be taking a voyage of melancholy through the medium of the deadest of formats; 5.25" floppy disks."
That is super cool! I love that there is a tradition of marrying musical and computer technology, going back to the early 1980's with data-on-vinyl inserts in computer magazines and music artists including Commodore data in the lead-out groove of their LP... The circuit is now complete!
I wasn't sure what to expect here but as someone who likes old PCs and old storage media and taking field recordings of background ambience, I approve!
Yes its obvious, cd project red here is very known polish company abd we are proud of it qnd witcher3 is partially polish but cyberpunk is from usa quaters
I think the Pentium OverDrive 83 just doesn't have the oomph to decode M4A files. M4A uses AAC (Advanced Audio Coding), which was first established in 1997, so it was probably designed with sixth-gen CPUs like the Pentium II in mind. A YT channel called CPU Galaxy recently did a video seeing what type of 486 was needed to decode MP3 in MXPlay on DOS; it would be interesting to see a follow-up seeing what the minimum CPU for decoding AAC/M4A files is. My guess would probably be a Pentium MMX or maybe one of the higher-clocked vanilla Pentium CPUs.
I have a P5-166 which can be underclocked down to 75Mhz. I suppose I could try playing AAC there with different CPU clocks and see where it breaks down. But who am I kidding, I'll never get around to that.
Actually I just thought about it. The 83MHz OverDrive (assuming he still has that installed) seems like it has maybe 60% of the oomph needed. That would mean you'd need a 133-150MHz Pentium. However the OverDrive is using the slower 486 bus. With the faster Pentium bus I'd guess a 100MHz CPU would be enough.
90's teenage me would have been all over that stuff! I still remember when I had a 4 CD set of mostly shovel ware that I bought around 1994 via an ad in probably Computer Shopper. Most of the discs just had shareware demos, clip art and stuff like that. But one CD was chocked full of DOS demo scene stuff, MOD files, tracker programs and fractal stuff. I can still remember listening to the theme song from Red Dwarf as a MOD file!
@@bloeckmoep I thought it was MPEG 4 Audio, I must be mistaken ;) I used to dislike it when it was new, but now that it's standardized and well-supported (usually AAC) I'm okay with it.
@@eDoc2020 : Well, yes it is part of the mpeg 4 container construct, BUT m4a files are mainly provided by a certain music store for a certain range of uncomfortable and locked down music player devices. Those m4a files are endemic to only this rotten platform, you will rarely see them anywhere else. Add to that, that those m4a files are usually encrypted and a hassle to cleanly decrypt, so any m4a crap is to be avoided at all costs. Better you search a bit longer and deeper and you may find a beautiful FLAC rip for further processing to the audio format of your choice. M4a is kinda like the wma sh*t with its content encryption and access rights management and "custom" codecs provided by shady hosts. Such is to be avoided and stomped at first glance.
@@3dlabs99 It struggles on older hardware. It is feature packed so it's a bit demanding. There is no way it can play a 44khz file on a 486, not going to happen. You would need a pentium at least.
I didn't expect my native country Poland in Blerbs, but... here we are! :) Recently I ordered two "albums" on 3,5" floppy discs from Pionierska Records based in Poland. Very mellow, ambient music. I aproove, and you should too!
I really wasn't expecting the vocal samples to come in! I thought it was going to be a synth of some kind mimicking them. That was actually quite listenable and did not touch theme of deadness.
8 Bit Weapon released their 'vaporware soundtracks' on a black CD, in a 5.25 floppy sleeve (which acted as the jewel case) back in '06... wish I still had it. That was very cool for the time.
Funny I just did an experiment last week with music on 3.5 floppy disks using mp3 music, due to read/write with mpxplay you need to add the pre-buffer command which should be -BL, it then should play fine from floppy.
Man... and here I thought I was so clever and trendy when my friends and I compressed the hell out of our collective's album to fit it onto a single 1.44MB floppy back in 2014
Well, this is an intriguing find! Who knew that 5 1/4 floppy disks could hold such clear audio? I guess I was expecting something more.......compressed? Perhaps MIDI-esque?
New project: replace the crappy equalizer from Midi Mountain II with a diy device that routes audio output through and displays the nifty spectrum analyzer from MPXPlay.
The first one "the beach blew it all out" with a bit of bass and additional beats can turn into a banger ❤ from India *Edit* around 13 sec into the audio the sound slowly fades away we can incorporate that with a beat drop it would sound soo cool. This can for sure be a club hit if it gets released nowadays imo.
It's good to see old format are coming back in numerous niche fashions so that the smartphone kids can curiously look at them and say 'Eh!? 360KB? Do you not mean 32 or 36GB?'
When it said "Raw Field Recordings" I was wondering if they had recorded analog audio data directly as a magnetic field on the disk surface (like how Video Floppy holds 50 frames of pal/ntsc video on a floppy disk like format) But that would be near impossible to play without custom hardware.
we talked about this in a group a while ago, about listening to music or even watching movies on DOS , i never recall watching movies before win 95 on SVCD and i remember how bad those were , even for music, mp3 was not a thing or at least common until win 95 was around.....so i kept asking, was it possible to listen to music , watch movie or heck, anyone remember watching pictures ? i am at loss , how did we even see pics on dos ? u lose memory with time so i can't even recall if there was a software on dos to see pics...
Clint, can you share the first one(Adrian song)?, it is the song in one of my kids toys, and I would like to play it on differet stuff arround the house. I would have bought it, but it is sold out.
Wish I would have known about you in the late 2000's. One of my friends was putting out low bitrate chiptunes on 3.5in floppies back then as a floppy only music label.
I'm not far yet in disco elysium. Im already in love with it, but knowing there's a lady field recording is just perfect ! ! I was recording ice yesterday :D
cool. i havent used mpxplay since I had a headless DOS based car PC in my car in college in the late 90's. i had a AT keyboard stuffed in the center console and a ton of MP3's on a HDD. Autoexec loaded mpxplay and started it playing and i would just type in the number of the song to play it. good times.
3 роки тому
I wonder how many bytes were left on that 5,25" diskette. Shame we did not see the DOS dir...
I saw one guy had made an experiment to put audio directly on the disk tracks, it worked but every track change would make a little click in the audio and it only lasts for 160 rotations which is around half a minute if I remember
That dos player u use probably doesn't support SBR (Spectral Band Replication) and PS (Parametric Stereo) extentions AAC received as a standarts? But the OGG Vorbis used in the 1st disk has twice its bandwidth so it should sound a lot better, I wouldn't care about 32khz sampling rate, we would be glad if we get 14khz out of it, but interesting idea nonetheless 👍
When I was in school we were asked to make our own powerpoint for.... reasons. I discovered you could embed music and I think I got like, 9 seconds of NOFX Linoleum MP3 on it and it maxed out the 3.5inch capacity.
I wonder if some better speakers could improve the audio. The "train" track looks like it has decent bass in it. Also was that taking 5% or 40% of the CPU to run? Either way, it's interesting.
"They are .OGG files."
So... this is LGR Oggware?
Oggware Hodware
Dogware
Goddware
Listening to music, CPU utilization 98%
That's with real time encoding
And its high quality 32khz
As a Thai person I did not expect an actual recording of a monk praying in (supposedly) a funeral in Thailand to come out of this video! It totally caught me off guard lol.
I came in to see if it was in fact Thai prayers. Thanks.
I see a Techmoan collab in the future.
MPXPlay has a better spectrum analyzer than the one you just put in your MIDI rack!
In fairness, a single flashing light is a better spectrum analyzer than the one in the MIDI Rack Mountain, by virtue of not pretending to be one.
the first actual tune on Dead Fields is sampled from Flowshakerz’ Outro Lex
Barcode says "OP3-OGG - DEAD FIELD". Had to negative the image to get that.
ah, was wondering why my scanner wasn't translating it
Was unaware about these kinds of "albums." It seems like its a big collab with a bunch of nerds, and thats pretty sick. Reminds me of those Ralph Bakshi movies, and Ralph will record NYC life and have that be the audio of the movie. Idk, pretty neat
you haven't seen anything - they're also releasing them on gameboy carts
Can't help but notice that 'Adlib Gold' box back there ;)
👀
@@LGRBlerbs Ooooooh. Someone's guilty. Guilty of audio indulgence! LOL
💄
That’s GOLD Jerry, GOLD!
Did you read the wiki article on adlib gold? It straight up accuses Creative Labs (and Yamaha) of sabotaging Adlib by paying Yamaha to delay approval of its gold chipset to give CL a years head start on 32bit sound cards.
I remember working on my siblings field recordings for thier uni dissertation, walking about with a big fluffy microphone getting plenty of weird looks. Still have so many memories of hunting for interesting soundscapes
@@rockapartie ah man it was so long ago, all I remember was walking around edingbrugh Christmas Market. I remember they made a website for it. I need to find it again
I still think that making music on a tracker is the most fun. You get a totally different control over samples. Thanks for the video.
That sleeve’s graphic design is very aesthetically appealing
This guy gets it!
"Volume in drive C is WOOD"
Because its woodgrain pc you dumbass
I always named my a: ‘Mr Floppy’. Tee hee.
you mean DOOM?
Yo dude i have wood rn
@@patrickglaser1560 As myself, I can confirm that I did know that.
"Welcome back to mood music with your host DJ Clint. Today we will be taking a voyage of melancholy through the medium of the deadest of formats; 5.25" floppy disks."
That is super cool! I love that there is a tradition of marrying musical and computer technology, going back to the early 1980's with data-on-vinyl inserts in computer magazines and music artists including Commodore data in the lead-out groove of their LP... The circuit is now complete!
I wasn't sure what to expect here but as someone who likes old PCs and old storage media and taking field recordings of background ambience, I approve!
Looks like LGR is gonna be starring in a reboot of The Ring sometime in the coming week
Amrou Kithkin is an obvious Magic: The Gathering fan, that's an ancient card.
Indeed :)
@@amroukithkin7048 dope tracks
With art by the legendary Quinton Hoover, no less!
Yeah, I had to pause the video to laugh when Clint read that name off. "Now there's a name I've not heard in a long, long time...."
@@nil0bject Aye, cheers!
"about the contents of this package which just arrived from Poland"
Me: "LGR got a boxed copy of Cyberpunk?"
Cyberpunk isnt polish
Actually its from usa
@@lolnjeoglondajmejejplejlis3365 CD Projekt Red, the developers of Cyberpunk 2077, is a Polish company.
Yes its obvious, cd project red here is very known polish company abd we are proud of it qnd witcher3 is partially polish but cyberpunk is from usa quaters
@@patrickglaser1560 Really? What a guy. lol. Do people not have anything better to do?
LGR: "oh hey, my package is here early" Rest of the world: "WHERE IS THAT F***'n USPS package???"
I think the Pentium OverDrive 83 just doesn't have the oomph to decode M4A files. M4A uses AAC (Advanced Audio Coding), which was first established in 1997, so it was probably designed with sixth-gen CPUs like the Pentium II in mind. A YT channel called CPU Galaxy recently did a video seeing what type of 486 was needed to decode MP3 in MXPlay on DOS; it would be interesting to see a follow-up seeing what the minimum CPU for decoding AAC/M4A files is. My guess would probably be a Pentium MMX or maybe one of the higher-clocked vanilla Pentium CPUs.
I have a P5-166 which can be underclocked down to 75Mhz. I suppose I could try playing AAC there with different CPU clocks and see where it breaks down.
But who am I kidding, I'll never get around to that.
Actually I just thought about it. The 83MHz OverDrive (assuming he still has that installed) seems like it has maybe 60% of the oomph needed. That would mean you'd need a 133-150MHz Pentium. However the OverDrive is using the slower 486 bus. With the faster Pentium bus I'd guess a 100MHz CPU would be enough.
90's teenage me would have been all over that stuff!
I still remember when I had a 4 CD set of mostly shovel ware that I bought around 1994 via an ad in probably Computer Shopper. Most of the discs just had shareware demos, clip art and stuff like that. But one CD was chocked full of DOS demo scene stuff, MOD files, tracker programs and fractal stuff. I can still remember listening to the theme song from Red Dwarf as a MOD file!
These two disks are TOTALLY my thing. Thanks for sharing!
The design of the sleeve and label on the 5.25" disk is interesting. At first glance, it looks like a blank disk.
I'll have to send you in my project Field of Fart.
do it!
Fields of Flatulence sounds more civilized and upscale.
Where can I preorder a copy?
Fields of Flatulence : The Evils Farts Of Death
If it isn't a collection of chiptunes from sampled farts, I'm gonna be disappointed :P
"Gothball" has got to be my favourite coinage of the new year.
This is cool. Also Amrou Kithkin slaps, thanks for introducing me.
The "funeral" is in Thailand, Buddhist monks praying.
Yeah the m4a files probably require more CPU to decode in real-time than the computer was capable of.
yaa, its mpeg so at that time you would need a hardware decoder, or a pentium processor :)
Pentium class machine required.
M4A... Music 4 Apple. I EXTREMELY INTENSLY DISLIKE that format, I have a personal grudge against!
@@bloeckmoep I thought it was MPEG 4 Audio, I must be mistaken ;) I used to dislike it when it was new, but now that it's standardized and well-supported (usually AAC) I'm okay with it.
@@eDoc2020 : Well, yes it is part of the mpeg 4 container construct, BUT m4a files are mainly provided by a certain music store for a certain range of uncomfortable and locked down music player devices. Those m4a files are endemic to only this rotten platform, you will rarely see them anywhere else. Add to that, that those m4a files are usually encrypted and a hassle to cleanly decrypt, so any m4a crap is to be avoided at all costs. Better you search a bit longer and deeper and you may find a beautiful FLAC rip for further processing to the audio format of your choice.
M4a is kinda like the wma sh*t with its content encryption and access rights management and "custom" codecs provided by shady hosts. Such is to be avoided and stomped at first glance.
LGR discovers contemporary European art
Mpxplay has a better equalizer than the MIDI Mountain.
Lol yeah -- it actually looks like a pretty good program -- not easy to write a music player supporting all those formats and stuff.
@@3dlabs99 It's incredible. Even does 5.1 surround with my SBLive. There's even a Windows Console version. And it has visualizations.
@@3dlabs99 It struggles on older hardware. It is feature packed so it's a bit demanding. There is no way it can play a 44khz file on a 486, not going to happen. You would need a pentium at least.
I didn't expect my native country Poland in Blerbs, but... here we are! :) Recently I ordered two "albums" on 3,5" floppy discs from
Pionierska Records based in Poland. Very mellow, ambient music. I aproove, and you should too!
Hah, Sonntag-floppy to the rescue!
awesome. I have a big box of floppy disks I found that need to be gone through. looking forward to feeling nostalgic also
I really wasn't expecting the vocal samples to come in! I thought it was going to be a synth of some kind mimicking them. That was actually quite listenable and did not touch theme of deadness.
we just can't make regular art in Poland. we do either weird or obscure - or both.
*sees CuteMouse on Clint's monitor before starting Dead Fields*
*looks at mouse*
Yeah, it's cute.
Mouse: *blushes furiously*
Where's the SexyMouse?
Some adlib gold teasing in the back.
Finally stuff from Poland!
8 Bit Weapon released their 'vaporware soundtracks' on a black CD, in a 5.25 floppy sleeve (which acted as the jewel case) back in '06... wish I still had it. That was very cool for the time.
Funny I just did an experiment last week with music on 3.5 floppy disks using mp3 music, due to read/write with mpxplay you need to add the pre-buffer command which should be -BL, it then should play fine from floppy.
At 1:03 if you look quickly you can see my disk 😁
your disk look really small from here ;)
"Thanks Poland"
LGR 2021
Man... and here I thought I was so clever and trendy when my friends and I compressed the hell out of our collective's album to fit it onto a single 1.44MB floppy back in 2014
That's pretty impressive coming from a 486! That scream tracker track was banger.
The music is legit something I would listen to. This is really neat. Thanks!
Sounds like a teacher from Charlie Brown was speaking at that funeral.
It's a Buddhist chant, although I don't know exactly what they're saying.
Greetings from Poland! You cannot expect anything less from the homeland of Chopin ;-)
The "funeral" is actually a Buddhist prayer.
Makes sense. Ubon Ratchathani is a city in Thailand after all.
That EP was pretty amazing!
It's not quite the same but some Dubmood albums come on CD cased in a 5 1/4". I have a couple and it's a cool way to package them
Hah wow.. that MPXplayer was pretty slick looking!
I love this channel man, it's like... It's like old LGR but modern. By old I mean LGR from the first 4 years or whereabouts
Well, this is an intriguing find! Who knew that 5 1/4 floppy disks could hold such clear audio? I guess I was expecting something more.......compressed? Perhaps MIDI-esque?
Reading from floppy disk. the old school way to avoid a You Tube copyright strike
New project: replace the crappy equalizer from Midi Mountain II with a diy device that routes audio output through and displays the nifty spectrum analyzer from MPXPlay.
WOW! Thank you! Was a thing to start the 5.25 label :D
The first one "the beach blew it all out" with a bit of bass and additional beats can turn into a banger ❤ from India *Edit* around 13 sec into the audio the sound slowly fades away we can incorporate that with a beat drop it would sound soo cool. This can for sure be a club hit if it gets released nowadays imo.
Buy your 5.25" disks now people, before they're all snapped up by these publishers... :P
I love experimental, ambient and field recordings
There was a sound test program on my 486 that use to do a thunder clap. I used to think it sounded SO realistic.
This sounds like something Techmoan would cover, but it right up LRG Blerbs territory
It's good to see old format are coming back in numerous niche fashions so that the smartphone kids can curiously look at them and say 'Eh!? 360KB? Do you not mean 32 or 36GB?'
A video about floppy disks hopefully it doesn't flop
...
**Crickets chirping**
I'll see myself out now
The sound quality is amazing.
Makes me wonder if it would be possible to record analogue audio on a floppy disk with a modified drive. Like the analogue video signal on a LaserDisk
When it said "Raw Field Recordings" I was wondering if they had recorded analog audio data directly as a magnetic field on the disk surface (like how Video Floppy holds 50 frames of pal/ntsc video on a floppy disk like format)
But that would be near impossible to play without custom hardware.
we talked about this in a group a while ago, about listening to music or even watching movies on DOS , i never recall watching movies before win 95 on SVCD and i remember how bad those were , even for music, mp3 was not a thing or at least common until win 95 was around.....so i kept asking, was it possible to listen to music , watch movie or heck, anyone remember watching pictures ? i am at loss , how did we even see pics on dos ? u lose memory with time so i can't even recall if there was a software on dos to see pics...
Acdsee was a dos image viewer I believe
The tracks in the scream tracker file are condensed into a single file and played by what is known as orders and this file has 35 orders on it
I'd never appreciated that the OGG format was this old. I switched to using it in the late 90's due to superior quality to MP3s.
Track 4 is an actual Buddhist funeral chanting and 'Ubon Ratchathani' is a northeastern province in Thailand.
Nothing beats the Opus codec at these bitrates.
Clint, can you share the first one(Adrian song)?, it is the song in one of my kids toys, and I would like to play it on differet stuff arround the house. I would have bought it, but it is sold out.
Wish I would have known about you in the late 2000's. One of my friends was putting out low bitrate chiptunes on 3.5in floppies back then as a floppy only music label.
field recordings are badass
please do a turbotax for dos review. tis the season.
This reminds me of Disco Elysium where there's this girl sampling sounds from the ice for field recordings
This reminds me of Disco Elysium in that my computer can't run it.
I'm not far yet in disco elysium. Im already in love with it, but knowing there's a lady field recording is just perfect ! ! I was recording ice yesterday :D
@@FBuilding oh enjoy :) you're going to love it.
cool. i havent used mpxplay since I had a headless DOS based car PC in my car in college in the late 90's. i had a AT keyboard stuffed in the center console and a ton of MP3's on a HDD. Autoexec loaded mpxplay and started it playing and i would just type in the number of the song to play it. good times.
I wonder how many bytes were left on that 5,25" diskette. Shame we did not see the DOS dir...
.....number 9.......number 9......number 9......😈
Turn me on dead man...
Got a skinny puppy vibe from the second one . Sounded good
This is possibly the most Eastern European thing I've ever seen
You mean Russia? Poland is central eu btw
@@lolnjeoglondajmejejplejlis3365 Geographically - yes. :D
If there is a way to setup a floppy drive to a retro stereo setup...I'm thinking like a cassette deck, but like a floppy drive.
Is that a thing?
I saw one guy had made an experiment to put audio directly on the disk tracks, it worked but every track change would make a little click in the audio and it only lasts for 160 rotations which is around half a minute if I remember
The ultimate soundtrack to cheer you up and brighten your day
I was vibing to the last track...
Somebody needs to put some kind of interpretation of New Order's Blue Monday on one of these things, bring it full circle.
If it sounds like this when you're dead, I wanna go some place else, thank you...
That dos player u use probably doesn't support SBR (Spectral Band Replication) and PS (Parametric Stereo) extentions AAC received as a standarts? But the OGG Vorbis used in the 1st disk has twice its bandwidth so it should sound a lot better, I wouldn't care about 32khz sampling rate, we would be glad if we get 14khz out of it, but interesting idea nonetheless 👍
Your refusal to put a space in your Dos commands between the options and switches just kills me. 😅
When I was in school we were asked to make our own powerpoint for.... reasons. I discovered you could embed music and I think I got like, 9 seconds of NOFX Linoleum MP3 on it and it maxed out the 3.5inch capacity.
I wonder if some better speakers could improve the audio. The "train" track looks like it has decent bass in it. Also was that taking 5% or 40% of the CPU to run? Either way, it's interesting.
Have a look at Lavender Sweep records on Bandcamp. They've got some weird stuff on discs on there, including Zip discs.
The floppy with field recordings on it seems like it could be a macguffin in a Gibson novel. And damn do I love me a console mode media player
I recall an old flip phone I had supporting ogg files. Maybe part of Vcast music or just ringtones idk.
I love obscure underground music on unconventional mediums 🤗
first hipsters were into cassettes and now floppy disc. what will they do next? put xylophone and whistling music on laserdisc?
new floppy disks are so interesting
this reminds me of playing mods on PC speaker in the early(ish) 90s and blowing my mind
The new soundtracks to Halloween😂
when are you uploading more to LGR FOODS?