The fact that this is the only time in the film where Patrick, a total psychopath, for a brief moment, actually feels empathy for another person and doesn't really know what to do with that feeling is brilliant. He just sits freeze and ask her to go without standing.
The film is seen from Bateman's perspective so the Dorsia employee probably replied to him politely, but to Bateman it felt like mocking because his ego is incredibly fragile, that's why he heard the laughter through the phone.
The film is seen from Bateman's perspective so the Dorsia employee probably replied to him politely, but to Bateman it felt like mocking because his ego is incredibly fragile, that's why he heard the laughter through the phone.
I love that there is no heavy background music. The conversation is allowed to be uncomfortable. Its complex yet simple. I think this is a great example of the art that has been lost in modern film making.
THIIIIIS I had been feeling the same kind of idea , "why i dont feel immersed enough in actual movies nowadays?" Not many does movies like this with so small details yet good enough to make u feel something deep while watching it.
I think Patrick was actually desperately grasping at something real but was quickly faced with his grotesque inner personality that was attempting to overpower the whole situation. Such a brilliant study in extreme inner conflict and self torture. Such a great movie.
Patrick, at least, the character of Patrick Bateman as depicted in the possibly false reality we're seeing in the movie, probably does not want anything real with anyone. If he did at some point, that part of him died young. He doesn't really see himself as real, not as a human, but as a grotesque shell. He sees most people in his own social circle - people playing in the same status-sphere - in the same way. But he is capable of pity, a kind of pity that isn't entirely colored by condescension, for people outside that sphere. Not for everyone outside it (not the homeless man, or the hooker he kills). But over the course of their relationship, his secretary manages to become pitiable in a caring way. Cared for by the last remnant of something human in him.
American Psycho is about how the 80s were superficial to the point where nothing felt real. Jean, unlike everyone else in his world, felt genuine, so he let her live.
@@jg2722 You may mock, but there are tropes in movies and color theory. I make cartoons. And I won a cartoon contest. Do you think I don't use colors to convey meaning?
He would have done it, she was the perfect, sweet, unsuspecting, naive victim. The phone call saved her. His facade fell apart in front of her. I think. Too complicated for me. What a grotesque human being.
He wouldn't have done it... she complimented him, and dark triad types are powerless in the face of admiration. Also, he feels something for her. That much is obvious from the way he looks at her. Oh, and there's no air hose hooked up to that pneumatic framing nailer.
I like Jean. She is literally the only character in the whole movie who feels like a real person. It is interesting that Patrick spared her. Was this because of her innocence and kindness or was it just a whim that he did not kill her? Who knows. At any case I am glad she survived.
I haven't watched in a while, but Jean (and even Louis) are spared because they go out of their way to compliment his taste and style. People who refuse to stroke his ego are killed. Even the prostitutes insult him about his apartment not being as nice as Paul Allen's.
No. This scene is made up The book doesn't have an exact scene involving a nail gun with Jean. While Bateman does fantasize about harming her, there is no equivalent to the specific nail gun sequence from the movie. The book focuses more on his disturbing thoughts and how he occasionally spares people he views as kind or genuine, including Jean. The nail gun scene in the movie was likely added to heighten the tension and illustrate Bateman's unpredictable nature while also showing a rare moment of restraint.
@@shazanali692 the movie was definitely trying to say something different than the book. If you look at the director's output vs the author's, it's clear why. Mary Harron is very underrated. She gave the story much more depth by developing the female characters better.
@@b71488 yeah. the fact that she even remotely admired and adored him was enough to throw the whole thing out of wack. one of the more interesting scenes in the whole movie. it shows that somewhere deep down, there's some degree of humanity that's still trying to be heard. like a tiny echo of a voice of reason, lost in a cavern of insanity.
I wouldn't say this is him "sparing" her, She just didn't make it fun for him. She is so incredibly dull and boring that the thrill of ripping away her life from her just isn't there. It's why he asks "Do you have a boyfriend?" "Do you feel fulfilled" he even tries scaring her with "You know Ted Bundy's dogs name was Lassy?" in case she knew who he was. He's perusing his arsenal trying to make the kill a bit more exciting with his choice of weaponry. Then when he's trying to build her hopes up for an incredible life with him, he's interrupted by his other victim over the phone which totally killed the mood as it killed her hopes an excitement. Killing by itself is boring, Ruining the life of someone who had so much to live for isn't.
Such a weird scene, but we don't know if it's just the phone call and situation that saved her live, or the fact that Patrick actually liked her in some way because she showed innocence and depth unlike every other woman he'd met. Or both. Patrick actually ponders and gives her ambiguous answers on why she should leave, he never gave any of the other girls that.
It was because no matter what, she was just a mediocre girl. She looked at him like he was human and not a CEO. In that world, she wasnt an oppurtunist… she just liked him for him
I don't have a type BUT Jean from American Psycho and Ursula from the old Spiderman movies are the most precious girls in all of movie history and I NEED to see them safe and happy !!!
@@danieldorn9989 they do but you won't find them in a club or a dating site I knew a woman like that I studied with with such a kind heart and another I met at random when dropping off a friend at a pottery club, 27 and still alone, nearly invisible. I thought I wanted a relationship with her but realized I only lusted after her so instead I fostered a friendship and was able to encourage her to finally grab the courage and find a boyfriend she so yearned for over the years. I haven't seen her in two years but I really hope I'll one day chance about meeting her and see how she has changed.
It’s little moments like this I wish were in the book itself. In the book the set up is the same but with Patrick going on an unhinged rant to Jean about Huey Lewis and the News than a personal moment between the two. Of the 4 main female characters in the book - Courtney was an out of control mess not even Patrick wanted to deal with, Evelyn was untouchable, Christie was doomed and Jean was set up to be the tragic figure but with the books cruel punchline that Jean tragedy was not to be Patrick’s victim but no mater what she did in life she would always be simply mediocre in a world of wealth and success that surrounded her. This 5 minutes in the movie summed up brilliantly what took at least 2 - 3 chapters in the book to establish and gave her grace without the snickering behind her back way the book handled her.
@ The movie fine tunes a lot the satire so its…lighter(?) than the novel which can be a grueling, physically and emotionally exhausting experience at times. Also, the gore and violence in the movie is played for laughs, not so much in the book. For instance (graphic spoiler) the death of Christie in the movie has Patrick comedically drop a chainsaw down a stairwell as she tries to escape. The book she meets her end that starts with her tied spread eagle to a bed and the use of a tube, a piece of cheese and a rat Patrick had starved for days, after that it’s page after page that explicit and graphically details how to dismantle and dismember a human body. And that’s not even the worst scene in the book. So unless you’ve read or used to extreme horror, bring a strong stomach because there is a very valid reason why the book is so notorious.
@@skatepork It's the only book I ever had to put down once in a while. Reading it for more than an hour at a time really put me into a weird mental space, especially in the second half of the book. Did you also have that experience?
@@grobbert oh yeah. I flew through the book until I reached about the middle (second half) and found myself disassociating. It just became a book about how to tear people into pieces and as a person who loves extreme horror it even became too much for me. Then the last half of the book swung the curve that thing may not be what they seem to be, it pulled me right back in and became invested back into the story because now you’re like… “wait a second” and are not sure if you are in the mind of a serial killer or reading the fantasies man who is simply losing his mind. That’s what saved the book IMO
The movie misleads us to believe that Patrick Bateman is actually a psychopathic serial killer. But in the end of the film we realize he did not kill anybody. It was all in his head, the desire to kill people who were rich, phony, materialistic, etc. He lived in that world and hated it, with such inner conflict in his head that he was battling. Then comes this secretary, a woman who is the opposite of what he hates, he sees her as kind and innocent. And in his head he spares her life because he liked her, but he couldn’t ask her for a relationship, because he was a complicating person himself and couldn’t escape the rich world he hated so much.
He wasn't going to kill her. How do I know? Because I know story, I know human behavior, and I know EMOTIONS. But mostly I know that pneumatic nailer isn't connected to a compressor.
In a strange way, because Jean didn't climb the ladder to the top, and enter Patrick's 'circle' of superficiality, she was real, and so he couldn't kill her. The point of no one believing Bateman is the killer at the end of the movie is that they're all interchangeable; any of the other men could've been Bateman, and it wouldn't have changed anything.
The phone call saved her life. In that moment Patrick, while he is incapable of feeling empathy, saw the contrast between her and the other superficial women and people in his life. Whatever thrill he gets out of killing, he didn't get when he saw her pure character. For the same reason he lost excitement when the girl didn't even know who Ted Bundy is, who Patrick probably has studied quite a bit. The girl was just oblivious. Patrick was able to kill the homeless guy earlier in the movie for satisfaction when he saw the guy as a deadbeat loser who created his own misfortune by being incompetent in life. He got confused when he was deprived of that justification. Interestingly, that quality of innocence, naivety or goodness that's in the woman here isn't typically something that would turn a psychopath away, probably the opposite. But in this movie it had that effect on Patrick. I don't know how accurate take this movie or book is about actual psychopathy, but it is fascinating look into human mind nonetheless.
Yeah and chainsaws don't work the way they did in this movie. They're all subtle nods to how unreal everything is, or even simpler put, the movie is a dark parody.
I thought his interaction with her was the highlight of the movie. He genuinely liked her and was hoping she was different. He was profoundly disappointed when she chose the fashionable restaurant. But he spared her anyway.
I love American Psycho. It depicts greed, money, lust, cooperate fame in jobs and success, the status quo. Anyone that worked in a high paying job (like finance) they know it's a pool full of sharks and it changes you. Patrick lost his sense of humanity. The only reason he spared her was because she was the only humane geniuene person in that company. Gentle, caring, sweet. She represented humanity, the things Patrick lost. Listen to the questions he asks her "Gene, what do you want to do with your life? Do you feel fullfilled?" His face drains of joy once he hears Evelyn's message in the telephone machine "Call me Mr. Big CEO"
I tell you something. In 2015, I was 23 years old, I dated a guy and he was EXACTLY like Bateman. In my Opinion Bateman had more class, "my" guy a bit more a funny guy. But Everything else was the same. And yes, except he never killed someone. But he was 27 and had a flat, very clean, not so much stuff in it. He had a high profile job, needed to go to work in suits. It's so scary to see it. And also I looked like this girl. Blonde with bangs. Since we dated just few months in 2015 I was never the same after. He also did riddles but in his toilet. Many parallels it's so freaky to watch this movie for me.
Every one should watch this movie at least once. The symbolism and message are so well put. Patrick is the ultimate example of a soul lost to greed, self-absorption, and pride.
'You can always be thinner.' *proceeds to bring himself to walking skeleton status for The Machinist* Damn, man, when he says something, he really fucking means it! And then he bulked up and became Batman a year later. His diets and workouts must have been insane at the time.
Your skin crawls because it's like watching an innocent lamb almost get eaten by a big bad wolf. The wolf prowls around it taking his time deciding what tool to use while getting the lamb comfortable before he confronts his own nature.
@@100Creeddawg if you're telling me you wouldn't show a girl off like that to all your buddies you're delusional she's not a supermodel but she's real pretty
He can't kill her because he just can't kill (yet). By the end the movie is very clear (contrary to the book) in the fact that he doesnt kill anyone,he wants and fantasize about it,but every kill is just that: Fantasy. The crazy shit like the chainsaw kill (you can see him watching Texas Massacre before this "kill") the revelation that Allen is still alive,the scene where he shot one round and a police car explote like a freaking Michael Bay movie,everything is in his head (all the creepy shit he was drawing on his agenda). That is why he "get away with murder" so easy,and that is why he can't kill her. This is the first time (actually the second if you count whe he try to strangle a coworker) that we see him "killing" somebody for real and not in his Hollywood gore fantasy.
I think it's less so because he wants to get into dorsia to actually visit but more so because he wants to say he can get into dorsia, he cares more about the prestige than the actual thing
what strikes me most is what consider top-end luxury back then for a w-st trader are now just ikea standard to us. People don't realise how much life standard get better and now to the point of superflu and yet we continue to fill our life with more unnecessary stuffs.
Felt like bateman in his own way actually liked this girl or at least liked her traits (kind, truthful)something that was very uncommon with the people bateman was around, compared to his wife who he hated and found annoying. I think he saw this girl as someone who didnt deserve to be a victim to his dark desires, for a moment at the end, he was able to speak to her truthfully without the mask that is patrick bateman, and thats something he doesnt get to do normally. I think he truly appreciated jeans character and thus didnt want to harm her in anyway
Notice that she was the only character who called him by his name as an actual person. Most of the others were either just "Bateman" or an insincere and passive and dismissive "Patrick." Or even no name at all. It's almost like she's the only one who saw him as a person and not an asset.
What is it with everybody wanting to go to the same restaurant ? Theirs no originality everyone is trying to be the same person but who is the original that they all immitate ? Paul Allen?
That's crazy to me since this is set in the 80s. His trial wasn't that long ago, and was still alive in prison. She must've missed all the news coverage somehow LOL
That nail gun would not work; it needs a compressor and a hose connection to the compressor. Besides that, he needs to press that tool against the head of the girl to be able to pull the trigger; otherwise the safety mechanism would not allow him to "fire" a nail.
The word growing saved her life. Dam she was so fine and sweet lady- the kind of women you want by your side for entire life. I wished Patrick will back to normal in the end and get Married to her by the song of Phil Colins One more night
The fact that this is the only time in the film where Patrick, a total psychopath, for a brief moment, actually feels empathy for another person and doesn't really know what to do with that feeling is brilliant. He just sits freeze and ask her to go without standing.
Wait what makes him a psychopath?
Oh yeah all the murdering.my bad
He noticed that she actually cares for him, he doesn't need to feel empathy himself, but being a psychopath he can still understand reciprocity.
You don't have to be a murderer to be a psychopath, nor are all murders psychopaths @@JohnMato-b4q
they always spare at least one…… at least that’s what I’ve heard lol
The actress does such a good job. Jean is so kind, considerate, and likeable.
She's also the same actress who plays the mom of the menendez brothers in the series MONSTERS
She was also great in a film called The Brown Bunny.
She has a great scene in the movie brown bunny
@@captain4595 Fantastic, should have swallowed an oscar.
@@The_Comedian556 Yeah she did took a whole oscar in
He felt empathy like most people feel indigestion
Not funny
@@savythenillerwaffer Oh be quiet, you're not the comedy police
@@savythenillerwafferI thought it was funny
good point
I'm tucking this comment somewhere in my notebook of clever quotes
I love the way the Dorsia guy answers the phone. No fucks given.
He's probably sick of people constantly calling for reservations when everyone in the city knows they're always booked out months ahead of time.
@@JakeKoenigdid you read the book?
The film is seen from Bateman's perspective so the Dorsia employee probably replied to him politely, but to Bateman it felt like mocking because his ego is incredibly fragile, that's why he heard the laughter through the phone.
The film is seen from Bateman's perspective so the Dorsia employee probably replied to him politely, but to Bateman it felt like mocking because his ego is incredibly fragile, that's why he heard the laughter through the phone.
I love that there is no heavy background music. The conversation is allowed to be uncomfortable. Its complex yet simple. I think this is a great example of the art that has been lost in modern film making.
THIIIIIS
I had been feeling the same kind of idea , "why i dont feel immersed enough in actual movies nowadays?"
Not many does movies like this with so small details yet good enough to make u feel something deep while watching it.
I agree
These days movies are more like TikTok reels with fast moving scenes and appalling AI generate dialogue and actions
there are films as good as this coming out every year, you're just not looking hard enough
I think Patrick was actually desperately grasping at something real but was quickly faced with his grotesque inner personality that was attempting to overpower the whole situation. Such a brilliant study in extreme inner conflict and self torture. Such a great movie.
you have a woman's head next to your ice cream yummy🤣🤣
Patrick, at least, the character of Patrick Bateman as depicted in the possibly false reality we're seeing in the movie, probably does not want anything real with anyone. If he did at some point, that part of him died young. He doesn't really see himself as real, not as a human, but as a grotesque shell. He sees most people in his own social circle - people playing in the same status-sphere - in the same way. But he is capable of pity, a kind of pity that isn't entirely colored by condescension, for people outside that sphere. Not for everyone outside it (not the homeless man, or the hooker he kills). But over the course of their relationship, his secretary manages to become pitiable in a caring way. Cared for by the last remnant of something human in him.
@@ac4740 so he's lie you then Gotcha🤣🤣
Agreed
I think this movie is about X.
Man this movie is such a great study of X.
What.
His assistant: are you seeing anyone?
Patrick: Maybe, I don’t know, not really 💀
he repeated her reply
i think he sees someone every time he opens his freezer
@@JP47471nice. 😊
He's so passive aggressively mean to her but shes still dedicated to him.
The way he asks questions while looking for the right weapon and right reasons
As she says, "so many possibilities"
@@jacksonsmith5490 Jesus is coming back. Please repent.
American Psycho is about how the 80s were superficial to the point where nothing felt real. Jean, unlike everyone else in his world, felt genuine, so he let her live.
Now a days its more superficial with social media.
@@oztheman6177yea definitely
@@oztheman6177You DEFINITELY didn’t grow up in the 80’s.
@@jnnx NEVER said I did
It’s all a fantasy anyway lol. His soaring her was just him pretending control, like the fake phone call. It’s all acting for himself.
Notice how he sits on the black couch, and she sits on the white one. Great symbolism.
Geezus 🤦🏽♂️
@@ededdandeddytv5164 Maybe, but notice that the backgrounds and clothes are also white and black.
My underwear is both white and black. Now what? Got a theory? Wanna use your film studies to use ?
@@pedroamaralcouto also, if you notice, he has dark hair and she has light colored hair
@@jg2722 You may mock, but there are tropes in movies and color theory.
I make cartoons. And I won a cartoon contest. Do you think I don't use colors to convey meaning?
He would have done it, she was the perfect, sweet, unsuspecting, naive victim. The phone call saved her. His facade fell apart in front of her. I think. Too complicated for me. What a grotesque human being.
He wouldn't have done it... she complimented him, and dark triad types are powerless in the face of admiration. Also, he feels something for her. That much is obvious from the way he looks at her.
Oh, and there's no air hose hooked up to that pneumatic framing nailer.
@@jamesrobertson9597 "powerless in the face of admiration"...try complimenting a Salt water croc...same effect.
Exactly, the stage he had set was interrupted. His ego couldn't handle his vision being imperfect.
@@caylabrown5550right on the spot! Finally someone with basic psychology and good analytics.
The woman that wrote this script and directed this movie really elevated it. One of the few movies that are better than the books
I like Jean. She is literally the only character in the whole movie who feels like a real person. It is interesting that Patrick spared her. Was this because of her innocence and kindness or was it just a whim that he did not kill her? Who knows. At any case I am glad she survived.
I haven't watched in a while, but Jean (and even Louis) are spared because they go out of their way to compliment his taste and style. People who refuse to stroke his ego are killed. Even the prostitutes insult him about his apartment not being as nice as Paul Allen's.
What about the model
He want to be seen, which the whole point of the movie.
Prostitute’s.
Also, her emotional pain is palpable, even to someone with no empathy, so hurting her physically is kind of redundant
I disagree tbh I think those two are spared because they are real people in a world of psychopaths
Patrick …. “Anywhere you wanna go , just say it & I can get us in , anywhere”
Jean …. “Pizza express , Woking”
Genius. 😂😂😂😂
No sweat
@@claudioricci1You beat me to it 😂
ive been laughin so much at this for ages
That was actually Evelyn, who saved her.
i think it was lassie
I don’t think so, he wouldn’t do it regardless, just like with Louis
No. This scene is made up The book doesn't have an exact scene
involving a nail gun with Jean. While
Bateman does fantasize about harming her, there is no equivalent to the specific nail gun sequence from the movie. The book focuses more on his disturbing
thoughts and how he occasionally spares people he views as kind or genuine, including Jean.
The nail gun scene in the movie was
likely added to heighten the tension and illustrate Bateman's unpredictable nature while also showing a rare moment of
restraint.
@@shazanali692 The book and movie are NEVER the same. NOT a good way too judge
@@shazanali692 the movie was definitely trying to say something different than the book. If you look at the director's output vs the author's, it's clear why. Mary Harron is very underrated. She gave the story much more depth by developing the female characters better.
"What is that?"
"Duct tape. I need it for.. taping something"
😂😂
After a recent rewatch, I've come to the conclusion that this is definitely a dark comedy.
For all of his evil deeds, I’m so glad he spared her, she was too cute and innocent 😇 to die brutally
I think he spared her because she was the first person to actually listen to him and really care about him.
@@b71488 yeah. the fact that she even remotely admired and adored him was enough to throw the whole thing out of wack. one of the more interesting scenes in the whole movie. it shows that somewhere deep down, there's some degree of humanity that's still trying to be heard. like a tiny echo of a voice of reason, lost in a cavern of insanity.
@@b71488 Truth!
It was in his head. He didn’t kill anybody.
Do you have proof?
I wouldn't say this is him "sparing" her, She just didn't make it fun for him. She is so incredibly dull and boring that the thrill of ripping away her life from her just isn't there. It's why he asks "Do you have a boyfriend?" "Do you feel fulfilled" he even tries scaring her with "You know Ted Bundy's dogs name was Lassy?" in case she knew who he was. He's perusing his arsenal trying to make the kill a bit more exciting with his choice of weaponry. Then when he's trying to build her hopes up for an incredible life with him, he's interrupted by his other victim over the phone which totally killed the mood as it killed her hopes an excitement. Killing by itself is boring, Ruining the life of someone who had so much to live for isn't.
That’s a really interesting perspective! I love reading how people interpret things.
bro is Patrick Bateman himself
Spoken like a true psychopath
put this mofo on a watch list
@@Rak9-j8h for real🤣
That moment where he scolds her to put the spoon in the carton is an immediate red flag!
Such a weird scene, but we don't know if it's just the phone call and situation that saved her live, or the fact that Patrick actually liked her in some way because she showed innocence and depth unlike every other woman he'd met. Or both. Patrick actually ponders and gives her ambiguous answers on why she should leave, he never gave any of the other girls that.
Patrick did not like her- she was such a dope.
It was because no matter what, she was just a mediocre girl. She looked at him like he was human and not a CEO. In that world, she wasnt an oppurtunist… she just liked him for him
I don't have a type BUT Jean from American Psycho and Ursula from the old Spiderman movies are the most precious girls in all of movie history and I NEED to see them safe and happy !!!
Agree!! They give similar vibes 💗🪄
Too bad these women dont exist in reallife
@@danieldorn9989 they do but you won't find them in a club or a dating site
I knew a woman like that I studied with with such a kind heart and another I met at random when dropping off a friend at a pottery club, 27 and still alone, nearly invisible.
I thought I wanted a relationship with her but realized I only lusted after her so instead I fostered a friendship and was able to encourage her to finally grab the courage and find a boyfriend she so yearned for over the years. I haven't seen her in two years but I really hope I'll one day chance about meeting her and see how she has changed.
@@danieldorn9989 they exist, but they are married before 30.
@@brianerbes7766exactly cuz they are already taken 😏
The double meaning in his words shows a deeply disturbed soul filled with wanting and corruption, but seldom knowing what he needs.
The fact that he actually phoned the Dorcia was weird. He could have called any number.
The nerve she had to suggest Dorsia.
I know rite?
um... he's a serial killer... the nerve of him to serial kill.
It’s a fake restaurant 😂
@@Notevenlistening. Twas a joke, my dear.
@@Notevenlistening.:
He's a psychotic schizophrenic. He never kills anyone, it's all in his head. The author has made this clear many times.
"I dont think i can control myself." Lmao great movie.
The way he let the answer machine do it's job without a care.. lmao
Bale based this character on Tom Cruise. I think he nailed it. I get the same ick from both.
In the book Patrick is neighbors with Tom Cruise 😂
it's no coincidence that magnolia was tom cruise's best performance lol
For long time I thought he was inspired from ted Bundy I see many similarities both of them .
I'm 27 and that Ted Bundy dog reference would've had me RUNNING out that door
Chloë Sevigny is radiant. And the line, "I don't think I can control myself" is so honest and chilling.
"And though it has been in no way a romantic evening, she embraces me and this time emanates a warmth I'm not familiar with."
American Psycho 265
It’s little moments like this I wish were in the book itself. In the book the set up is the same but with Patrick going on an unhinged rant to Jean about Huey Lewis and the News than a personal moment between the two.
Of the 4 main female characters in the book - Courtney was an out of control mess not even Patrick wanted to deal with, Evelyn was untouchable, Christie was doomed and Jean was set up to be the tragic figure but with the books cruel punchline that Jean tragedy was not to be Patrick’s victim but no mater what she did in life she would always be simply mediocre in a world of wealth and success that surrounded her.
This 5 minutes in the movie summed up brilliantly what took at least 2 - 3 chapters in the book to establish and gave her grace without the snickering behind her back way the book handled her.
i still gotta read it. one of my favorite movies of all time.
@ The movie fine tunes a lot the satire so its…lighter(?) than the novel which can be a grueling, physically and emotionally exhausting experience at times.
Also, the gore and violence in the movie is played for laughs, not so much in the book. For instance (graphic spoiler) the death of Christie in the movie has Patrick comedically drop a chainsaw down a stairwell as she tries to escape. The book she meets her end that starts with her tied spread eagle to a bed and the use of a tube, a piece of cheese and a rat Patrick had starved for days, after that it’s page after page that explicit and graphically details how to dismantle and dismember a human body.
And that’s not even the worst scene in the book.
So unless you’ve read or used to extreme horror, bring a strong stomach because there is a very valid reason why the book is so notorious.
@@skatepork It's the only book I ever had to put down once in a while. Reading it for more than an hour at a time really put me into a weird mental space, especially in the second half of the book. Did you also have that experience?
@@grobbert oh yeah. I flew through the book until I reached about the middle (second half) and found myself disassociating. It just became a book about how to tear people into pieces and as a person who loves extreme horror it even became too much for me. Then the last half of the book swung the curve that thing may not be what they seem to be, it pulled me right back in and became invested back into the story because now you’re like… “wait a second” and are not sure if you are in the mind of a serial killer or reading the fantasies man who is simply losing his mind. That’s what saved the book IMO
the head in the freezer 😭
“Oops forgot that in there.”
Bethany’s head his ex girlfriend
@@hecticg I thought that it was the random ditzy girl from the nightclub that he took home in a previous scene?
@@rosalindshays5679 Yeah it was the model he met at the club.
For later to eat.
That look on his face as the message played was hilarious. 😆
The movie misleads us to believe that Patrick Bateman is actually a psychopathic serial killer. But in the end of the film we realize he did not kill anybody. It was all in his head, the desire to kill people who were rich, phony, materialistic, etc. He lived in that world and hated it, with such inner conflict in his head that he was battling. Then comes this secretary, a woman who is the opposite of what he hates, he sees her as kind and innocent. And in his head he spares her life because he liked her, but he couldn’t ask her for a relationship, because he was a complicating person himself and couldn’t escape the rich world he hated so much.
No he was questioned.
What it is is nobody remembers eachother because everyone looks and acts the same so that’s why no one knows it’s him
It was all in his head. He just fantasised about it all. The book is fab
he killed a hobo?
They get married in the book
Bro he did not hate the rush world he killed a homeless man and a prostitute
He wasn't going to kill her. How do I know? Because I know story, I know human behavior, and I know EMOTIONS.
But mostly I know that pneumatic nailer isn't connected to a compressor.
Brilliant
hands her a tub of sorbet "DON'T JUST LOOK AT IT! EAT IT!"
I was kinda wanting to see how that pneumatic framing nail gun was going to work without a air hose and compressor, maybe that's why she survived
Because that one bit was all in his head
@@andryuu_2000 then he should have imagined a air hose and a compressor
And a compressor makes a lot of noise all on is own! 😂
@@loriar1027 Very True! and battery powered ones won't come out for at least another 25 years from when this scene is taking place
In a strange way, because Jean didn't climb the ladder to the top, and enter Patrick's 'circle' of superficiality, she was real, and so he couldn't kill her. The point of no one believing Bateman is the killer at the end of the movie is that they're all interchangeable; any of the other men could've been Bateman, and it wouldn't have changed anything.
Love the shoulder padded jacket.
horrible
Should be illegal. Just doesn’t look feminine at all.
My personal interpretation is that he only allows himself to feel empathy because she said he looked fit early on.
The phone call saved her life. In that moment Patrick, while he is incapable of feeling empathy, saw the contrast between her and the other superficial women and people in his life. Whatever thrill he gets out of killing, he didn't get when he saw her pure character. For the same reason he lost excitement when the girl didn't even know who Ted Bundy is, who Patrick probably has studied quite a bit. The girl was just oblivious. Patrick was able to kill the homeless guy earlier in the movie for satisfaction when he saw the guy as a deadbeat loser who created his own misfortune by being incompetent in life. He got confused when he was deprived of that justification.
Interestingly, that quality of innocence, naivety or goodness that's in the woman here isn't typically something that would turn a psychopath away, probably the opposite. But in this movie it had that effect on Patrick. I don't know how accurate take this movie or book is about actual psychopathy, but it is fascinating look into human mind nonetheless.
As a carpenter that nail guns size looks like it’s mostly run on compressed air so he couldn’t fire it with hooking it up to a compressor
That fits with the "in his head" hypothesis.
I think he was pointing his finger at her
That and the safety needs to be depressed for it to fire
Its the thought that matters. Just like touching the Knives.
Yeah and chainsaws don't work the way they did in this movie. They're all subtle nods to how unreal everything is, or even simpler put, the movie is a dark parody.
She looks stoned in real life here.
Chloe always does.
The first time I saw this I was like “see he’s not a bad guy!”
"I can fix him"😂
I thought his interaction with her was the highlight of the movie. He genuinely liked her and was hoping she was different. He was profoundly disappointed when she chose the fashionable restaurant. But he spared her anyway.
She also wanted to impress him
I love American Psycho. It depicts greed, money, lust, cooperate fame in jobs and success, the status quo. Anyone that worked in a high paying job (like finance) they know it's a pool full of sharks and it changes you. Patrick lost his sense of humanity. The only reason he spared her was because she was the only humane geniuene person in that company. Gentle, caring, sweet. She represented humanity, the things Patrick lost.
Listen to the questions he asks her "Gene, what do you want to do with your life? Do you feel fullfilled?"
His face drains of joy once he hears Evelyn's message in the telephone machine "Call me Mr. Big CEO"
I tell you something. In 2015, I was 23 years old, I dated a guy and he was EXACTLY like Bateman. In my Opinion Bateman had more class, "my" guy a bit more a funny guy. But Everything else was the same. And yes, except he never killed someone. But he was 27 and had a flat, very clean, not so much stuff in it. He had a high profile job, needed to go to work in suits. It's so scary to see it. And also I looked like this girl. Blonde with bangs. Since we dated just few months in 2015 I was never the same after. He also did riddles but in his toilet. Many parallels it's so freaky to watch this movie for me.
How did dating him change you, if I may ask?
Chloe seivgny was great in this
She was even better in The Brown Bunny 😉
@@all0utmetal735Indeed 💯😉
@@all0utmetal735 I actually feel a little bad for her getting talked into that. She broke down in tears at the premiere and fled the cinema.
@BlazingOwnager She was an adult that made an adult decision. She sucked dick on camera. The only person I feel bad for is her father.
If he spared her for whatever reason, he is not a psychopath. He is a hero!
The head in the fridge is hilarious!
Did you recognize the actress?
The art design on this movie was amazing
I love the Robert Longo art on his walls. Perfect for the era. And still super cool.
I cant believe Patrick was the Bay Harbour Butcher
He framed dexter lol
"Got my eye on you mothafucka..." -- Dokes
In this case, Paul Allen has to be Ice Truck Killer
Then Bateman went on to cook meth with a guy names Heisenberg
Every one should watch this movie at least once. The symbolism and message are so well put.
Patrick is the ultimate example of a soul lost to greed, self-absorption, and pride.
What a scene. I've never seen this movie, but only snippets here on YT. Wild.
Definitely worth the watch. Apparently the book is better. Like always lol
Same
The Book is nuts, definitely couldn't put some of that in a movie.
'You can always be thinner.'
*proceeds to bring himself to walking skeleton status for The Machinist*
Damn, man, when he says something, he really fucking means it! And then he bulked up and became Batman a year later. His diets and workouts must have been insane at the time.
what powers the nail gun??? hopes and dreams??
It's in his head
@ we don’t know that
Yet
There's an argument that the entire movie is a figment of his imagination.
@@Synthetic-RabbitYes I am aware, there’s also an argument that’s it’s not in his imagination
This was such a weird interaction
Wow, there's so much said in this scene! Without naming it.
Did you guys see the part where Jean looked out the window and said it was an amazing view? Truly one of the most defining moments in all cinema
greatest comedy of all time
"They know me...."
Your skin crawls because it's like watching an innocent lamb almost get eaten by a big bad wolf. The wolf prowls around it taking his time deciding what tool to use while getting the lamb comfortable before he confronts his own nature.
she was so beautiful, shame on patrick for serial killing
She really isn’t. Her nose is HUGE
@@100Creedthat’s not necessary
@@scush57746 ?
@@100Creeddawg if you're telling me you wouldn't show a girl off like that to all your buddies you're delusional she's not a supermodel but she's real pretty
@@100Creedyou probably look like Pinocchio
I don't know why this never occurred to me before, but Patrick's giving me serious Lore vibes in this watch. (Lore from TNG)
He spared her because he respected that she was skinny.
donnie darko and american psycho the biggest sleeper cult hits of 2000/2001
He can't kill her because he just can't kill (yet). By the end the movie is very clear (contrary to the book) in the fact that he doesnt kill anyone,he wants and fantasize about it,but every kill is just that: Fantasy. The crazy shit like the chainsaw kill (you can see him watching Texas Massacre before this "kill") the revelation that Allen is still alive,the scene where he shot one round and a police car explote like a freaking Michael Bay movie,everything is in his head (all the creepy shit he was drawing on his agenda). That is why he "get away with murder" so easy,and that is why he can't kill her. This is the first time (actually the second if you count whe he try to strangle a coworker) that we see him "killing" somebody for real and not in his Hollywood gore fantasy.
Deep down Patrick wasnt totally evil he spared her and he does care about Jean he realizes he has a care for her
You know, with the way everyone always mixed up identities and people, surprised he never tried to get into Dorsia by saying he was Paul Allen.
I think it's less so because he wants to get into dorsia to actually visit but more so because he wants to say he can get into dorsia, he cares more about the prestige than the actual thing
what strikes me most is what consider top-end luxury back then for a w-st trader are now just ikea standard to us. People don't realise how much life standard get better and now to the point of superflu and yet we continue to fill our life with more unnecessary stuffs.
Felt like bateman in his own way actually liked this girl or at least liked her traits (kind, truthful)something that was very uncommon with the people bateman was around, compared to his wife who he hated and found annoying. I think he saw this girl as someone who didnt deserve to be a victim to his dark desires, for a moment at the end, he was able to speak to her truthfully without the mask that is patrick bateman, and thats something he doesnt get to do normally. I think he truly appreciated jeans character and thus didnt want to harm her in anyway
i love their relationship lol
“Christian Bale? That little kid from that Steven Spielberg movie about China?”
Notice that she was the only character who called him by his name as an actual person. Most of the others were either just "Bateman" or an insincere and passive and dismissive "Patrick." Or even no name at all.
It's almost like she's the only one who saw him as a person and not an asset.
The only time in the movie you see him return the tape
Patrick could always get those Dorsia's reservations!
She is just as Psychotic. Did you see how she holds a pen when she writes?
Oh chloe my heart aches 💔
just remember hes deluded in his own head, its how he wants to behave, none of it happend, hes a gutless weed in the real world
Or he did some of it, most of it, none of it, it doesn't matter: it's all the same
They were in love here.
Dang the Dark Knight was really Dark.
What is it with everybody wanting to go to the same restaurant ? Theirs no originality everyone is trying to be the same person but who is the original that they all immitate ? Paul Allen?
1:28 so , you’ve chosen death ?
I still don’t get how Christian looks so unbelievably American but is from the uk
Chloe Sevigny is awesome
She's a great actress. She did a awesome job in the Lizzie Borden film.
Impressive, very nice. Now let's see Paul Allen's scene where he spares his assistant
I had a secretary like her. She spent most of her life saying sorry
"Who's Ted Bundy?"?! Really? Wow!
True crime was not super popular until recently
tbh someone not knowing the names of all those weird US serial killers treated as celebs over there is a green flag for me lol
Lmfao
I always thought that was to show her innocence. The way Patrick reacts to her not knowing is telling. It might have saved her.
That's crazy to me since this is set in the 80s. His trial wasn't that long ago, and was still alive in prison. She must've missed all the news coverage somehow LOL
If this would be 1:1 to the book, this would have been an "X-rated" movie.
Sometimes it can be disturbing, but the book was really, truly horryfing.
That nail gun would not work; it needs a compressor and a hose connection to the compressor. Besides that, he needs to press that tool against the head of the girl to be able to pull the trigger; otherwise the safety mechanism would not allow him to "fire" a nail.
Look at you!
@@Muddybuddie lol!
(scribbling notes..) good to know..
@@Muddybuddie gfy
@@Muddybuddie Asshole
Patrick finds some some type of humanity. Even beasts have some empathy for others.
Jean has the same energy as Lisa from The Room
"NO! Put it in the carton!"
He's just like me!
For a second I thought she was Maika Monroe lol
Has ocd but ok with splatter mess.
The word growing saved her life.
Dam she was so fine and sweet lady- the kind of women you want by your side for entire life.
I wished Patrick will back to normal in the end and get Married to her by the song of Phil Colins One more night
"dorcia" OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo