I think Patrick was actually desperately grasping at something real but was quickly faced with his grotesque inner personality that was attempting to overpower the whole situation. Such a brilliant study in extreme inner conflict and self torture. Such a great movie.
Patrick, at least, the character of Patrick Bateman as depicted in the possibly false reality we're seeing in the movie, probably does not want anything real with anyone. If he did at some point, that part of him died young. He doesn't really see himself as real, not as a human, but as a grotesque shell. He sees most people in his own social circle - people playing in the same status-sphere - in the same way. But he is capable of pity, a kind of pity that isn't entirely colored by condescension, for people outside that sphere. Not for everyone outside it (not the homeless man, or the hooker he kills). But over the course of their relationship, his secretary manages to become pitiable in a caring way. Cared for by the last remnant of something human in him.
American Psycho is about how the 80s were superficial to the point where nothing felt real. Jean, unlike everyone else in his world, felt genuine, so he let her live.
No. This scene is made up The book doesn't have an exact scene involving a nail gun with Jean. While Bateman does fantasize about harming her, there is no equivalent to the specific nail gun sequence from the movie. The book focuses more on his disturbing thoughts and how he occasionally spares people he views as kind or genuine, including Jean. The nail gun scene in the movie was likely added to heighten the tension and illustrate Bateman's unpredictable nature while also showing a rare moment of restraint.
@@b71488 yeah. the fact that she even remotely admired and adored him was enough to throw the whole thing out of wack. one of the more interesting scenes in the whole movie. it shows that somewhere deep down, there's some degree of humanity that's still trying to be heard. like a tiny echo of a voice of reason, lost in a cavern of insanity.
The fact that this is the only time in the film where Patrick, a total psychopath, for a brief moment, actually feels empathy for another person and doesn't really know what to do with that feeling is brilliant. He just sits freeze and ask her to go without standing.
@@jg2722 You may mock, but there are tropes in movies and color theory. I make cartoons. And I won a cartoon contest. Do you think I don't use colors to convey meaning?
I haven't watched in a while, but Jean (and even Louis) are spared because they go out of their way to compliment his taste and style. People who refuse to stroke his ego are killed. Even the prostitutes insult him about his apartment not being as nice as Paul Allen's.
I don't have a type BUT Jean from American Psycho and Ursula from the old Spiderman movies are the most precious girls in all of movie history and I NEED to see them safe and happy !!!
The movie misleads us to believe that Patrick Bateman is actually a psychopathic serial killer. But in the end of the film we realize he did not kill anybody. It was all in his head, the desire to kill people who were rich, phony, materialistic, etc. He lived in that world and hated it, with such inner conflict in his head that he was battling. Then comes this secretary, a woman who is the opposite of what he hates, he sees her as kind and innocent. And in his head he spares her life because he liked her, but he couldn’t ask her for a relationship, because he was a complicating person himself and couldn’t escape the rich world he hated so much.
He would have done it, she was the perfect, sweet, unsuspecting, naive victim. The phone call saved her. His facade fell apart in front of her. I think. Too complicated for me. What a grotesque human being.
It’s little moments like this I wish were in the book itself. In the book the set up is the same but with Patrick going on an unhinged rant to Jean about Huey Lewis and the News than a personal moment between the two. Of the 4 main female characters in the book - Courtney was an out of control mess not even Patrick wanted to deal with, Evelyn was untouchable, Christie was doomed and Jean was set up to be the tragic figure but with the books cruel punchline that Jean tragedy was not to be Patrick’s victim but no mater what she did in life she would always be simply mediocre in a world of wealth and success that surrounded her. This 5 minutes in the movie summed up brilliantly what took at least 2 - 3 chapters in the book to establish and gave her grace without the snickering behind her back way the book handled her.
@ The movie fine tunes a lot the satire so its…lighter(?) than the novel which can be a grueling, physically and emotionally exhausting experience at times. Also, the gore and violence in the movie is played for laughs, not so much in the book. For instance (graphic spoiler) the death of Christie in the movie has Patrick comedically drop a chainsaw down a stairwell as she tries to escape. The book she meets her end that starts with her tied spread eagle to a bed and the use of a tube, a piece of cheese and a rat Patrick had starved for days, after that it’s page after page that explicit and graphically details how to dismantle and dismember a human body. And that’s not even the worst scene in the book. So unless you’ve read or used to extreme horror, bring a strong stomach because there is a very valid reason why the book is so notorious.
@@skatepork It's the only book I ever had to put down once in a while. Reading it for more than an hour at a time really put me into a weird mental space, especially in the second half of the book. Did you also have that experience?
@@grobbert oh yeah. I flew through the book until I reached about the middle (second half) and found myself disassociating. It just became a book about how to tear people into pieces and as a person who loves extreme horror it even became too much for me. Then the last half of the book swung the curve that thing may not be what they seem to be, it pulled me right back in and became invested back into the story because now you’re like… “wait a second” and are not sure if you are in the mind of a serial killer or reading the fantasies man who is simply losing his mind. That’s what saved the book IMO
Yeah and chainsaws don't work the way they did in this movie. They're all subtle nods to how unreal everything is, or even simpler put, the movie is a dark parody.
what strikes me most is what consider top-end luxury back then for a w-st trader are now just ikea standard to us. People don't realise how much life standard get better and now to the point of superflu and yet we continue to fill our life with more unnecessary stuffs.
That nail gun would not work; it needs a compressor and a hose connection to the compressor. Besides that, he needs to press that tool against the head of the girl to be able to pull the trigger; otherwise the safety mechanism would not allow him to "fire" a nail.
I'm the only person in the world to have solved this film, I discover things humans don't, and I applied my skills to this film and solved it. Most people believe that the real estate agent covered the crimes to maintain the buildings reputation. That's a good guess, but what I found blows that out of the water, so much so that that great guess isn't even a possibility. I'm trying to find someone who will buy my findings so who knows when this will get out to the world.
Well made movie but they still couldn't get over the Hollywood myth that Nail Guns can fire nails when they are not connected to an air hose. A nail gun is a door stop without a high pressure pneumatic air line attached to it. This was not an electric nail gun, cordless nail guns did not exist then.
Maybe it's because he wasn't really shooting anything at her, it's just a fantasy to him. It builds up even more ambiguity about what he does and what he sees.
Why did he Spared her I never understood this scene I’m confused I’m used to Dexter Morgan giving me play by play analysis in his head on everything he does
Because she's a real person unlike those he usually kills. To him people isn't real, except when they are. It's a complex thing, I think he was just his finger at her in this scene. You can never know what happens, if he really kills someone or not.
I think he killed the homeless guy at least, and he was really about to kill her but didn't. I don't think he killed anyone else in the movie, it's different in the book
I think Patrick was actually desperately grasping at something real but was quickly faced with his grotesque inner personality that was attempting to overpower the whole situation. Such a brilliant study in extreme inner conflict and self torture. Such a great movie.
you have a woman's head next to your ice cream yummy🤣🤣
Patrick, at least, the character of Patrick Bateman as depicted in the possibly false reality we're seeing in the movie, probably does not want anything real with anyone. If he did at some point, that part of him died young. He doesn't really see himself as real, not as a human, but as a grotesque shell. He sees most people in his own social circle - people playing in the same status-sphere - in the same way. But he is capable of pity, a kind of pity that isn't entirely colored by condescension, for people outside that sphere. Not for everyone outside it (not the homeless man, or the hooker he kills). But over the course of their relationship, his secretary manages to become pitiable in a caring way. Cared for by the last remnant of something human in him.
@@ac4740 so he's lie you then Gotcha🤣🤣
Agreed
I think this movie is about X.
Man this movie is such a great study of X.
What.
American Psycho is about how the 80s were superficial to the point where nothing felt real. Jean, unlike everyone else in his world, felt genuine, so he let her live.
Now a days its more superficial with social media.
@@oztheman6177yea definitely
@@oztheman6177You DEFINITELY didn’t grow up in the 80’s.
@@jnnx NEVER said I did
It’s all a fantasy anyway lol. His soaring her was just him pretending control, like the fake phone call. It’s all acting for himself.
I love the way the Dorsia guy answers the phone. No fucks given.
His assistant: are you seeing anyone?
Patrick: Maybe, I don’t know, not really 💀
he repeated her reply
The way he asks questions while looking for the right weapon and right reasons
As she says, "so many possibilities"
@@jacksonsmith5490 Jesus is coming back. Please repent.
Patrick …. “Anywhere you wanna go , just say it & I can get us in , anywhere”
Jean …. “Pizza express , Woking”
Genius. 😂😂😂😂
No sweat
That was actually Evelyn, who saved her.
i think it was lassie
I don’t think so, he wouldn’t do it regardless, just like with Louis
No. This scene is made up The book doesn't have an exact scene
involving a nail gun with Jean. While
Bateman does fantasize about harming her, there is no equivalent to the specific nail gun sequence from the movie. The book focuses more on his disturbing
thoughts and how he occasionally spares people he views as kind or genuine, including Jean.
The nail gun scene in the movie was
likely added to heighten the tension and illustrate Bateman's unpredictable nature while also showing a rare moment of
restraint.
@@shazanali692 The book and movie are NEVER the same. NOT a good way too judge
For all of his evil deeds, I’m so glad he spared her, she was too cute and innocent 😇 to die brutally
I think he spared her because she was the first person to actually listen to him and really care about him.
@@b71488 yeah. the fact that she even remotely admired and adored him was enough to throw the whole thing out of wack. one of the more interesting scenes in the whole movie. it shows that somewhere deep down, there's some degree of humanity that's still trying to be heard. like a tiny echo of a voice of reason, lost in a cavern of insanity.
@@b71488 Truth!
It was in his head. He didn’t kill anybody.
Do you have proof?
The fact that this is the only time in the film where Patrick, a total psychopath, for a brief moment, actually feels empathy for another person and doesn't really know what to do with that feeling is brilliant. He just sits freeze and ask her to go without standing.
Wait what makes him a psychopath?
Oh yeah all the murdering.my bad
He noticed that she actually cares for him, he doesn't need to feel empathy himself, but being a psychopath he can still understand reciprocity.
Notice how he sits on the black couch, and she sits on the white one. Great symbolism.
Geezus 🤦🏽♂️
@@ededdandeddytv5164 Maybe, but notice that the backgrounds and clothes are also white and black.
My underwear is both white and black. Now what? Got a theory? Wanna use your film studies to use ?
@@pedroamaralcouto also, if you notice, he has dark hair and she has light colored hair
@@jg2722 You may mock, but there are tropes in movies and color theory.
I make cartoons. And I won a cartoon contest. Do you think I don't use colors to convey meaning?
I haven't watched in a while, but Jean (and even Louis) are spared because they go out of their way to compliment his taste and style. People who refuse to stroke his ego are killed. Even the prostitutes insult him about his apartment not being as nice as Paul Allen's.
What about the model
He want to be seen, which the whole point of the movie.
Prostitute’s.
The nerve she had to suggest Dorsia.
I know rite?
um... he's a serial killer... the nerve of him to serial kill.
It’s a fake restaurant 😂
@@Notevenlistening. Twas a joke, my dear.
@@Notevenlistening.:
He's a psychotic schizophrenic. He never kills anyone, it's all in his head. The author has made this clear many times.
I don't have a type BUT Jean from American Psycho and Ursula from the old Spiderman movies are the most precious girls in all of movie history and I NEED to see them safe and happy !!!
Agree!! They give similar vibes 💗🪄
The movie misleads us to believe that Patrick Bateman is actually a psychopathic serial killer. But in the end of the film we realize he did not kill anybody. It was all in his head, the desire to kill people who were rich, phony, materialistic, etc. He lived in that world and hated it, with such inner conflict in his head that he was battling. Then comes this secretary, a woman who is the opposite of what he hates, he sees her as kind and innocent. And in his head he spares her life because he liked her, but he couldn’t ask her for a relationship, because he was a complicating person himself and couldn’t escape the rich world he hated so much.
No he was questioned.
What it is is nobody remembers eachother because everyone looks and acts the same so that’s why no one knows it’s him
It was all in his head. He just fantasised about it all. The book is fab
he killed a hobo?
He would have done it, she was the perfect, sweet, unsuspecting, naive victim. The phone call saved her. His facade fell apart in front of her. I think. Too complicated for me. What a grotesque human being.
The double meaning in his words shows a deeply disturbed soul filled with wanting and corruption, but seldom knowing what he needs.
the head in the freezer 😭
“Oops forgot that in there.”
Bethany’s head his ex girlfriend
@@hecticg I thought that it was the random ditzy girl from the nightclub that he took home in a previous scene?
"And though it has been in no way a romantic evening, she embraces me and this time emanates a warmth I'm not familiar with."
American Psycho 265
The first time I saw this I was like “see he’s not a bad guy!”
"I can fix him"😂
It’s little moments like this I wish were in the book itself. In the book the set up is the same but with Patrick going on an unhinged rant to Jean about Huey Lewis and the News than a personal moment between the two.
Of the 4 main female characters in the book - Courtney was an out of control mess not even Patrick wanted to deal with, Evelyn was untouchable, Christie was doomed and Jean was set up to be the tragic figure but with the books cruel punchline that Jean tragedy was not to be Patrick’s victim but no mater what she did in life she would always be simply mediocre in a world of wealth and success that surrounded her.
This 5 minutes in the movie summed up brilliantly what took at least 2 - 3 chapters in the book to establish and gave her grace without the snickering behind her back way the book handled her.
i still gotta read it. one of my favorite movies of all time.
@ The movie fine tunes a lot the satire so its…lighter(?) than the novel which can be a grueling, physically and emotionally exhausting experience at times.
Also, the gore and violence in the movie is played for laughs, not so much in the book. For instance (graphic spoiler) the death of Christie in the movie has Patrick comedically drop a chainsaw down a stairwell as she tries to escape. The book she meets her end that starts with her tied spread eagle to a bed and the use of a tube, a piece of cheese and a rat Patrick had starved for days, after that it’s page after page that explicit and graphically details how to dismantle and dismember a human body.
And that’s not even the worst scene in the book.
So unless you’ve read or used to extreme horror, bring a strong stomach because there is a very valid reason why the book is so notorious.
@@skatepork It's the only book I ever had to put down once in a while. Reading it for more than an hour at a time really put me into a weird mental space, especially in the second half of the book. Did you also have that experience?
@@grobbert oh yeah. I flew through the book until I reached about the middle (second half) and found myself disassociating. It just became a book about how to tear people into pieces and as a person who loves extreme horror it even became too much for me. Then the last half of the book swung the curve that thing may not be what they seem to be, it pulled me right back in and became invested back into the story because now you’re like… “wait a second” and are not sure if you are in the mind of a serial killer or reading the fantasies man who is simply losing his mind. That’s what saved the book IMO
hands her a tub of sorbet "DON'T JUST LOOK AT IT! EAT IT!"
As a carpenter that nail guns size looks like it’s mostly run on compressed air so he couldn’t fire it with hooking it up to a compressor
That fits with the "in his head" hypothesis.
I think he was pointing his finger at her
That and the safety needs to be depressed for it to fire
Its the thought that matters. Just like touching the Knives.
Yeah and chainsaws don't work the way they did in this movie. They're all subtle nods to how unreal everything is, or even simpler put, the movie is a dark parody.
Love the shoulder padded jacket.
horrible
"I dont think i can control myself." Lmao great movie.
Why is Batman goin around killin ppl now
How stupid are you?
hahahahhaha
Batman. Bateman. Coincidence? I think not.
He repented his previous sins, removed the e from his surname and tried to make amends by fighting crime.🤣
He was Patrick before he was Bruce..
what powers the nail gun??? hopes and dreams??
It's in his head
@ we don’t know that
Yet
There's an argument that the entire movie is a figment of his imagination.
@@Synthetic-RabbitYes I am aware, there’s also an argument that’s it’s not in his imagination
Chloe seivgny was great in this
She was even better in The Brown Bunny 😉
@@all0utmetal735Indeed 💯😉
I cant believe Patrick was the Bay Harbour Butcher
He framed dexter lol
"Got my eye on you mothafucka..." -- Dokes
In this case, Paul Allen has to be Ice Truck Killer
Then Bateman went on to cook meth with a guy names Heisenberg
she was so beautiful, shame on patrick for serial killing
The head in the fridge is hilarious!
Holy crap. The amount of hidden suggestions, pacing & leading, yes set. He used alot of mind tricks.
I was kinda wanting to see how that pneumatic framing nail gun was going to work without a air hose and compressor, maybe that's why she survived
Because that one bit was all in his head
@@andryuu_2000 then he should have imagined a air hose and a compressor
She looks stoned in real life here.
Chloe always does.
donnie darko and american psycho the biggest sleeper cult hits of 2000/2001
"They know me...."
What a scene. I've never seen this movie, but only snippets here on YT. Wild.
Definitely worth the watch. Apparently the book is better. Like always lol
Same
The Book is nuts, definitely couldn't put some of that in a movie.
I don't know why this never occurred to me before, but Patrick's giving me serious Lore vibes in this watch. (Lore from TNG)
“Christian Bale? That little kid from that Steven Spielberg movie about China?”
"Who's Ted Bundy?"?! Really? Wow!
True crime was not super popular until recently
tbh someone not knowing the names of all those weird US serial killers treated as celebs over there is a green flag for me lol
Lmfao
Oh chloe my heart aches 💔
1:28 so , you’ve chosen death ?
Patrick could always get those Dorsia's reservations!
what strikes me most is what consider top-end luxury back then for a w-st trader are now just ikea standard to us. People don't realise how much life standard get better and now to the point of superflu and yet we continue to fill our life with more unnecessary stuffs.
I don’t think he killed anyone it was all in his head.
That nail gun would not work; it needs a compressor and a hose connection to the compressor. Besides that, he needs to press that tool against the head of the girl to be able to pull the trigger; otherwise the safety mechanism would not allow him to "fire" a nail.
Look at you!
@@Muddybuddie lol!
(scribbling notes..) good to know..
@@Muddybuddie gfy
@@Muddybuddie Asshole
just remember hes deluded in his own head, its how he wants to behave, none of it happend, hes a gutless weed in the real world
Or he did some of it, most of it, none of it, it doesn't matter: it's all the same
You know, with the way everyone always mixed up identities and people, surprised he never tried to get into Dorsia by saying he was Paul Allen.
This was such a weird interaction
Is this a comedy movie? I just laugh and smile at these scenes or am I a psycho.
personally would never have let her go...
Where’s Casper?
"dorcia" OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo
If this would be 1:1 to the book, this would have been an "X-rated" movie.
Sometimes it can be disturbing, but the book was really, truly horryfing.
Has ocd but ok with splatter mess.
I'm the only person in the world to have solved this film, I discover things humans don't, and I applied my skills to this film and solved it.
Most people believe that the real estate agent covered the crimes to maintain the buildings reputation.
That's a good guess, but what I found blows that out of the water, so much so that that great guess isn't even a possibility. I'm trying to find someone who will buy my findings so who knows when this will get out to the world.
*future wife
"Who's ted bundy?" You sweet, innocent angel
Chloe Sevigny is awesome
Did he actually kill anyone?
Well made movie but they still couldn't get over the Hollywood myth that Nail Guns can fire nails when they are not connected to an air hose. A nail gun is a door stop without a high pressure pneumatic air line attached to it. This was not an electric nail gun, cordless nail guns did not exist then.
Maybe it's because he wasn't really shooting anything at her, it's just a fantasy to him. It builds up even more ambiguity about what he does and what he sees.
Sick sacka shiii😱
Never forget Gonzalo Lira.
Understand what's going on.
Rest in Piss 😂
Whatcha mean
Why did he Spared her I never understood this scene I’m confused I’m used to Dexter Morgan giving me play by play analysis in his head on everything he does
Because she's a real person unlike those he usually kills. To him people isn't real, except when they are. It's a complex thing, I think he was just his finger at her in this scene. You can never know what happens, if he really kills someone or not.
but like Bateman is diff.
Gray's papaya for 2 at 9.
Specifically what comment offended youtube??? Buybuy
Where is the air compressor?
In his head
can't stand this movie.
Why watch clips of it then?
@zerpente3 one clip. been 23 years. and it came up.
Y
He never killed anyone
@@williamstone6818 yes he did..
this is your head canon we don't know
I think he killed the homeless guy at least, and he was really about to kill her but didn't. I don't think he killed anyone else in the movie, it's different in the book
@@geeko7867except the mail gun doesn't work
no fun in this scene then
Bone meat meat bone lmao
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