Woodturning - How to make a Hex Nut Glue Block
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Hi Mike I so glad you did a video like this so I can copy it thank you. Keep them coming And I am looking forward too see you at makers central thanks again
Nice presentation and very useful information for building glue blocks. Thanks Mike!!
Thanks Gayle glad you found it of some use.
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Mike
thanks for a very nice tip. I like the idea of putting saw dust around the nut for added strength. I enjoy all your utube videos Jim
Glad you liked the video Jim, and thanks for watching and your support.
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Mike
I have used a couple of glue blocks having seen you use them. They are brilliant, as you say, and I'm grateful for your advice. I'll no doubt end up making one of these too. Thanks Mike :)
Hi Matt, glad to hear you like them too mate.
Thanks for watching and your support.
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Mike
Great tips Mike - I really appreciate the time and effort you put in to your videos and I have used many of your ideas over past years. Cheers, Geoff (Australia)
Thank you Geoff both for watching, and your support.
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Mike
Thanks for the video, Mike. I am fairly new to turning and I have been wanting to do this. I like the saw dust and CA bit. Never thought of that. Love your videos. Keep up the good life.
Thank YOU for watching and commenting Chezler, much appreciated.
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Mike
Another innovative idea, one that I can usefully employ on my current project. In this cold weather I usually heat both surfaces with a heat gun to ensure they are dry and warm to stop the glue setting prematurely. I’ve never had a glue block fail on me. So here I am ordering nuts from eBay at 2am instead of sleeping. Thanks for sharing! (I ordered 4, two for me and the other pair for Mrs May ;j)
Thanks William, alas not originally mine, all credit to Walter Wager. What a great idea re heating the wood on the surfaces to be glued in the colder weather ... thanks for that.
let me know how you get on with them.
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Mike
Brilliant, Mike! Why didn’t I think of that. I’ve used glue chucks a fair amount, but always cut either a mortise or tenon. After glueing up the blank, I fix the whole gubbins in my Chuck. Your idea makes much more sense. Cheers, Genius. 😀
Thanks Graham, wish it was my idea mate, but all credit goes to Walter Wager :)
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Mike
my lathe uses 1"x8tpi threads, expected to pay a lot for the nuts, surprised to buy 5 for $5.90c Canadian. I was out the door so quick I broke the sound barrier, great video Mike thanks.
LMAO ... glad you liked the idea and got some nuts my friend ;)
Take care, and thanks for watching.
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Mike
Great idea, Mike! Well explained and easy to understand. Great job!
Phil
Thanks Phil, it's just another way to skin a cat ... :)
Thanks for watching.
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Mike
Great information, well presented, Mike. I'm sure many turners are going to take advantage of it.
Take care,
.....Gord
This is one of my next project 👍. Thank you for this video. Greetings Jörg
Glad you liked the video Holz and thanks for watching.
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Mike
This is so simple but so useful. SAFE TURNING, John
Glad you liked the video John, and thanks for watching.
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Mike
What a great simple idea love your video's always easy to follow
Regards
Steve UK London
Thanks Steve.
Good job Mike! Thanks for sharing the video with us.👍😎JP
Thank you JP
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Mike
Your very welcome Mike!😎
Super job Mike I must make up some of these they would be very handy 👍
Glad you found it of some use Alan.
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Mike
Great idea. Much better than mine. Mine had a tenon. Hex Nut hunting tomorrow. Thanks Mike
Thanks Brendon.
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Mike
Great idea Mike I’ll have to make a few of these
Thanks Terry, they are very handy to have around :)
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Mike
Thanks Mike, great tip. Take care as always xx
Hi Val, glad you liked the video mate.
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Mike
Thanks for the tip Mr. Mike
Pleasure, and thank you for watching Donald.
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Mike
Thanks, Mike...this is something I definitely want to make!
Glad you liked it Carol
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Mike
A very elegant solution thanks for sharing mate :)
Thank you Mark, inspired by Walter Wager :).
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Mike
Great instructional video Mike. I think I will be making some of those myself
Thanks John, I'm sure yours will look better than mine ... you know coloured and textured ...lol ;)
See you in May mate.
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Mike
@@MikeWaldt lol you know me too well.
Thanks for sharing!! Wish i would of seen this method before i bought the Beal spindle tap.....O well always nice to have more than one way of something!
Both methods are effective Greg, just thought I'd share this option too :)
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Mike
Good idea and easy made thanks mike
Glad you like it David.
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Mike
very useful to have and thanks for detail guide Mike much appreciated!
Thanks for watching Afshin
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Mike
Great idea! Another Mike Waldt idea that I need to add to my list. Cheers -Ed
Thanks Ed, Walter Wager was the initial inspiration for this :)
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Mike
Hi Mike, thanks for sharing. I’d made my glue blocks using. 33x3.5 nut before seeing your video. Like some others I went to the bother of tracing round the nut, drilling it just under size and then using a chisel to shape the hole to take the nut perfectly. Maybe took me a little longer than your method but hopefully it will give a very strong joint. Like the idea of adding rings to centre the work piece and the 7mm hole for pushing a bar through, I’ll incorporate both in mine. Well done on the nuts for just over £1, my 2 cost almost £10 and I thought i’d done well 😂
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Hi Peter, I considered the chisel method but in honesty have found no problems with the way I did it .... yet!!!
I am really annoyed that I cannot locate my eBay supplier, but then again I did buy them quite a while ago.
Thanks for watching and your input.
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Mike
Great tip Mike thanks for doing the vid
Glad you liked it Nick
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Mike
Thank you mike great tutorial, 👍
Thanks for watching Peter
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Mike
Nice project Mike
Thank you Erik
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Mike
Grand Merci M.Mike !!!!!!!!
Thank you for watching Alain
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Mike
Great job. I tried the glue once and it didn't work so well. I haven't had the nerve to try it again. Now that i understand more about it I think I will give it a go and see how it does. Thanks!
I have 100% faith in a glue block .. provided the glue is hot from a "good" glue gun, and both surfaces are dry.
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Mike
Thank you so much for the great video 👍🏼
Thank YOU for watching Tomas.
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Mike
You’re a great example For people like me to follow.
You're too kind, but thank you.
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Mike
Pretty clever idea, mate👍
Thank you Bill, all credit to Walter Wager for the initial inspiration :)
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Mike
Thanks for the information Mike. I found the 1”-8 hex nut at my local hardware store for only $.69 each. I was considering buying a Beale 1”-8 tap but the steel thread will never wear out and costs a fraction of the price. For the price of the tap I can buy about 40 hex nuts! Great idea. Thanks again
Glad you liked the video Dan, full credit to Walter Wager for the initial inspiration.
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Mike
Well done sir! It’s like listening to Jeremy Irons.
Ha ha ... thanks you Scott
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Mike
Good tip.
Thanks
James
Thanks for watching James ... on another note ... are you going to MC in May?
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Mike
@@MikeWaldt Hi Mike, to be honest we haven't made any plans for this year, as of yet. We will be happy to see the end of winter!
Happy New Year to you and your wife.
Great info Mike, thanks for the tips. Will have to give glue blocks a try not done a single one yet haha, don't know if my glue gun gets hot enough...
Thanks Kyle, let me know how you get on.
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Mike
Thanks for showing how and sharing that
Thank you for watching Hassan.
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Mike
Great video
Here are a few suggestions:
1. I would normally drill the diameter slightly larger than the face-face diameter of the nut, and then use a bench chisel to carve out corners for the points. That way, the nut is captured in solid wood rather than a glue-sawdust composite. Could be a bit more work, but you don't need a lot of glue blocks, so taking a few minutes more on each one is not a problem
2. If you must drill the hole to match the point-point diameter (most of us have only a limited selection of forstner bits), I would use solid wood to pad out the space on the flats of the nut. Here in the colonies, we can buy popsicle sticks/tongue depressors at the 'Dollar Store' for next to nothing, and I find they are great to have in the shop either for miscellaneous wood shims or as glue spreaders.
3. I suggest mounting the drill bit in a jacobs chuck in the tailstock to drill that centering hole. If you drill it on the drill press, it is possible that it might be slightly off center.
4. I know you use hot melt glue (as I often do), but another option is to use ordinary PVA glue. The only problem with PVA is that the bond will be so strong that the only way to separate the glue block from the turning is to turn it away. But if you put a layer of ordinary paper in the joint between the glue block and the turning, you will have a joint that can be popped open very easily with a bench chisel and mallet, and that is stronger that is possible with hot melt glue.
Thank you for your detailed input Louie, much appreciated.
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Mike
Great idea thank you so much
You are very welcome and thanks for watching Jim.
Good stuff cheers Mike .
Thank you Glen
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Mike
Great job. Thank You.
Glad you enjoyed it Crusty! ;)
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Mike
Great idea
Thank you Fifi
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Mike
That was interesting, Mike!
Glad you liked it Aleksey.
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Mike
Nice job Mike! I'll be spending a lot of time with you at MC then, as I can't leave Glyn and Jo on their own for too long - they're always getting into trouble lol! ;)
Thanks Dave ... looking forward to catching up again matey :)
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Mike
Hell Mike, I, too, like glue blocks, and have moved on from hardened wood threads cut with a Beale tap. I mount on a screw chuck to start, and this gives a centre for the through hole later. I was drilling the nut cavity on the lathe, only to AF diameter, and then sculpting out the hex. points.(I save my various precious wood dusts for any worthwhile remedial jobs!).Got impatient with that, and searched for a round nut, like those used as studding connectors. They exist; as automotive track rod end inserts, so I can just drill and scrape to final diameter, apply plenty of CA glue, and pop the insert in. I get more threads than with a regular nut, and no need for a spacer or secondary drilling to accommodate excess spindle thread.. When set, I screw on to the drive shaft, and finish as required; sometimes with a + slot for easing off hot glued workpieces , or use a paper joint for PVA glued jobs. The through hole will take a grooved birch dowel for greater security if necessary on heavy bowls, to be just pulled or tapped out afterwards. Should a 33mm insert not be found, one can use a thread reducer for a reasonable price (although this will give overhang), and a screw chuck is easily made on a faceplate. Cost; £2-3. Regards, Bernard.
Hi Bernard, and thanks for watching and your valuable input, much appreciated.
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Mike
Have you ever watch Captain Eddie's video on making a glue block? He puts a notch on the face of the block so you can slide a rod in it to pry things off of the glue block. Good video Thanks
Great idea again by the Captain Charles :)
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Mike
Great tip, thanks!
Thanks Doug
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Mike
Good idea Mike. I just keep a lot of my spindle off-cuts and use them straight in the chuck for glue blocks.
If people don't have the right size forstner bit then they should be able to make the hole with the piece on the lathe.
I was surprised you didn't drill the final 7mm hole while on the lathe.
Thanks Paul, just wanted to show that it can also be done on the drill press :)
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Mike
Great idea. thanks .
Glad you liked it James
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Mike
Very good.
Thanks Alan.
I can't wait to see that bein turned Mike. Actually I would love to come & watch you n I'll bring the cakes
Hopefully won't be too long before I turn it David.
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Mike
Hi Mike! Great Video! Wouldn't it be nicer to drill the center hole from the other side? Marking the center with the skew should give you a perfect center. I guess the hex nut could be slightly off center and the divit of the forstner bit isn't the "true" center anymore.
Thank you, yes it could be done that way, I must say I've had no problems doing it the way I show. But as they say, there are many ways to achieve the same result :)
Thanks for watching
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Mike
Thanks Mike great trick with the nut, must get some nuts 😉👏👏
Thanks Barry ... no comment by the way ...lol ;)
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Mike
Question: Why did you use the drill press for the center hole instead of a drill in a Jacobs chuck on the lathe while it was on the spindle?
No reason really, there are several ways to drill the hole, and I used the drill press, to show it could be used if you didn't have a Jacobs chuck.
Thanks for watching
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Mike
That’s what I figured. Just wondering if there was a particular reason.
Nicely done video, Mike. Very clear and complete instructions. I do have a question about your choice to use hex nuts instead of tapping the wood block as you said you have done in the past with the Beall tap. Did you have issues with the wooden threads, or just find it easier to make with the hex nuts?
Thanks Bud, no problems with the tapped threads, I just like this option better .... for the moment ;)
Thanks for watching
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Mike
Hi Mike Please could you send the link to the supplier of the nuts as I can't seem to find any on ebay keep up the great work and Merry Xmas
Mike quick question can you use soft wood for hex nut glue block or does it have to be hard
I see no problem with using soft wood David. The most important thing in my view is to make sure the nut is embedded in side grain NOT end grain. Cheers. Mike.
Great idea, could i drill the hole on the lathe as i don't have a pillar drill
Yes you can mart .
Yes Mart you can, as Bram says below :)
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Mike
Simple stuff but I would not have thought of drilling the 7mm hole all the way through for centering -now I have to grab all my glue blocks with a nut in them and "Mike Waldt" them - lol
Lol ... Happy to hear they are going to get "The treatment" 😂😂.
Great tip Mike. As others have already said is there a reason for not drilling the centre hole while it was on the lathe? You normally have good reasons for doing things in a particular way. Cheers Huw
Thanks Huw, just showing it can be done on the drill press as well mate.
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Mike
Cool glue blocks,what glue gun do you use?
The Bosch PKP 18 E Robert, I've had it seven years now and still going strong ... famous last words ;)
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Mike
great info mike do you have the link were you got the nuts
Thank you Sir, I got these a while back, and sadly cannot find the same seller, but with some scouring I'm sure you'll find some.
Good luck.
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Mike
Do you think a screw together walking stick is a good practice turning piece?
Never done one William, but I think it would be great practice on accuracy and tool control.
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Mike
What glue gun do you recommend as the cheap one I got wont feed the stick in and I have to push it by hand
Hi Graham - I have had the Bosch PKP 18 E for seven odd years and it hasn't let me down, it takes the 12mm sticks and gets the glue to a moulton "runny" consistency.
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Mike
Hello Mike, I've had 4 m33*3.5 nuts for some days now pending this video, along with another 4 1" * 8tpi for an mt2 live centre from the U.S. I have previously used a Beal bit to cut m33*3.5 directly into wood with mixed results in the quality of thread, (my bad). It works, but I think that an engineered nut will provide the better option. Previous attempts have been into Pine. Again, it works, but to avoid subsequent movement, I shall use a 'hard' wood this time.
I hadn't considered using a drill press to cut the hole. I will test to see whether mine has the grunt to take that size forstner bit, or else it's back to the lathe.
For anyone else reading in, my bit is 50 mm which is also the measurement between the opposing flat sides of the nut. The opposing points are around 56mm. This time I will find the turning centre of the block and with the nut held in place, i shall trace around it onto the block and then drill the corners out, before drilling the main hole. I hope that the irregular shape will further enable the epoxy surrounding the nut to avoid potential slippage in its hole.
Thanks for the video Mike. This was useful to watch. Regards, Glenn. :-)
I don't remember where I saw it but one way to strengthen wood threads is with CA glue. Bore the pilot hole then treat the wood with CA and allow time to set up. Run the tap, clean the threads and once again coat the threads with CA and allow a full cure. This should really firm up threads in softwoods such as pine.
Hi Glenn and thanks for your very interesting and valuable input too, much appreciated
Take care
Mike
I watched a video by Izzy Swan few weeks back. He made a glue block to make a ring and just held a bic lighter to the end of a glue stick and just smeared it on the block. Worked great, thought it was a neat time saver, you don't have to wait for a glue gun to heat up. It was like instant melt and stick. Search his channel, video about making a ring making jig......
Hi James, for a small light project that's no problem ... but for large heavy stuff a glue gun is essential.
Thanks for the input though.
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Mike
@@MikeWaldt yep, It' just the thought of using a lighter to be able to melt glue, LOL. I have a mini and a full size glue gun.. I'm so new to turning I jusst was cutting ribbons for the first time about a month ago, have had the lathe 3+years now, got a life time to learn, yep.....and enjoying every minute I get to spend usung it. It helps me greatly, I'm 62, now closing in on 4-1/2 years of Beating stage three lung cancer, but the chemo and radiation beat me. I'm not able to work so I turn to my little wood craft shop to keep me productive. .
A link to the site from whence to source hex nuts would be very much appreciated. Otherwise very useful video. Thanks.
I'm a great fan of Blue Glocks ;) Vice nideo mate Bram
LMAO ... fanks thor motching wate ;)
Bheers
Cike
Ah Its seembly cleareo that we both went to the Stanley Unwin schoolbly of advancio grammarly :)
@@Bramsshed1913 LMAO ... now or agree is showing matey ;)
@@MikeWaldt oh yes and deep joy :)
Good idea Mike . Do you have a link to the ebay seller for the Hex nuts ? Thanks
Thanks Trevor, I got them a while ago, and can't find the seller, but I'm sure there will be alternatives ... I hope ;)
Take care
Mike
Well done Mike for resurrecting your idea, I recall you relating to this some time ago and forgot all about it - just a touch of oldtimers LOL but such a good way to reuse glue blocks and without relying on wooden threads, must get some now. Do you know what type of thread the nuts were? i.e. UNC or BSW? the size and pitch of thread are the same, just the angle of the thread that differs slightly and very easy to get confusd. The unc has a 60deg thread angle and the BSW 55 deg They are prettty compatible regards fit except under an extreme pressure environment whereby unc to unc or vice versa would be the ideal. Regards Mike and thanks for sharing, Tony(UK).
Doh !! sorry Mike yours were of course the metric 33x3.5 I have also 1"x 8tpi live centres and adaptors to suit both threads - just lost the plot for a moment!!
LMAO .... I'm glad I'm not the only "plot loser" Tony :)
Take care mate
Mike
Mike my lathe has a 1" x 8 tpi thread where would i get a hex nut to fit this ?
Unsure what type of thread it is etc
1x8 hex nut is a common size. Here in Canada they are under $1.50.
Thanks for your input Robert, much appreciated
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Mike
Ackland and Grainger, or Fastenal, both have them, I bought 5 for $5:90 inc.
@@hrgft68 yeah I'm in the UK, over here you try getting that size
I knew there was another reason I left the UK 😂hope you find them, they make life a lot easier 🍻
re the use of a nut on your lathe, you made no mention of removing some of the threads to fit it over the lathe register, so the nut could go up to the mandrill faceing. this is done to all chucks that you purchase new. this keeps everything running true. just my opinion.
I had the same thought myself,I made a couple with beall tap and made so block locates on lathe register have a couple of nuts have not used them for that reason
That is an option John, but I have to be honest, I have had no problems doing this way, but many thanks for your thoughts ... appreciated :)
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Mike
Great tool making video Mike! I get the nuts for a really kind person I buy 8 for 4 € near 3.5£ and he give me an other 4 for free ! I like to make like that my ball making jig this is the reason that I get it!!
Thankas Kostas they are really handy things to have in the shop my friend.
Thanks for watching.
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Mike
Great idea Mike my Lathe is a AH-1218 with a T04M 1" x 8 tpi thread,so not sure the size nut to fit.
Do you have the eBay seller details as it was not in the info.
Hi Steve I have a JET lathe which uses the same size thread. You need to purchase 1" UNC nuts. I purchase them from my local bolt supply store.
Derek Fixter that’s great thank you for your help derek
Derek Fixter are all 1 inch unc.nuts 8tpi?
Hi Steve, all 1" UNC nuts are 1" thread diameter x 8 threads per inch (8 TPI)
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As to anybody that works with wood they should have sawdust in the shop or have the ability to make, BUT can a person use baking soda in place of the sawdust? Just wondering, have used the baking soda on a couple of my kids things to repair and fill-in.
Hi Shirley, I have never thought about baking soda to be honest, mainly as you say, I have an unlimited supply od saw dust! ;)
Take care and thanks for your input
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Mike
Cheaper to buy the nut than the wood threading kit
Agreed ... but not if uou want to make many of them. Thanks for watching.
Give us a call as id love to come watch n learn
Mike, thank you for your always great videos. Q: Often when you use a hot glue gun you say to make sure that the glue is “very hot” buying a glue gun, I find that some are rated in degrees of temperature and others in current. What temperature and current am I looking for?
Thank you in advance. You are very much appreciated
Thank you Guy.
I don't know the actual temperatures but I have had the Bosch PKP 18 E for seven years now and it melts the 12mm glue sticks to a moulton runny consistency, and this has been the only set up I've used and now problems to date ... famous last words! ;)
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Mike
Very useful. A big thank you
Dam,i'm thick as 2 short,never even considered buying nuts to fit my headstock! What a bloody fool! Off to scout e-bay,cheers Mike!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣
LOL Alan ... good luck mate ;)
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Mike
Mike do you have the eBay item number please?
I got these a little while ago Steve, and cannot find the seller. But, I'm sure there are others that offer the same type of nut.
Sorry I cannot be of more helps.
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Mike