Rocky V: The Worst Movie of the Franchise?
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- Опубліковано 3 вер 2022
- Fans of the franchise mainly hate Rocky V. It took the triumph of Rocky IV and turned it into a tragedy for the Italian Stallion, with him suffering a potentially deadly injury due to his bout with Drago. Wiped out financially thanks to Paulie (who else?), Rocky, Adrian (Talia Shire - in her last entry in the saga) and Robert (Sage Stallone) have to relocate to Philly, where Rocky takes over Mickey's old gym. There he finds a prospect, Tommy Gunn (the late Tommy Morrison), who he can turn into a contender, only for ego and a Don King-like promoter to get in the way, concluding in a ridiculous street fight. Stallone has slammed the movie over the years, but is it as bad as all that? We'll dig into it on this episode of Sylvester Stallone Revisited!
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Rocky using street fighting tactics against Tommy Gunn is what makes this movie worth watching.
Yeah, this is at the core of what I did like about Rocky V. It's decent overall, but I didn't expect the street fight. It surprised me if I'm being honest. I thought the fight choreography was well directed. I've gone back and just watched that scene because I liked it so much.
Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Ya and he was raised partly in the streets and its what mick trained him for in and outside of the ring
Stallone’s brilliant performance as a brain damaged Rocky is what makes this movie. That fight scene is just icing.
@@SumDumGy you knocked him down try knocking me down...# my rings outside
He had the eye 👁🗨 of the 🐯 tiger again
I think the reason why 5 gets a lot of hate is that folks saw themselves in this dreamer and it hurt them to see that character fall from grace. I didn’t like it as a kid but Rocky V has really grown on me over the years!!
EXACTLY
True.
it seemed rushed but the concept of Rocky having a midlife crisis and training Tommy to find purpose again is a good plot.
The bottom line is, critics mocked Stallone for turning Rocky into a somewhat idealized hero, so he just had to bring the character down a peg or two. That's all there was to it. Stallone lost his confidence in the late 80's, and he's been groveling for the critics ever since...one of the saddest sights I've ever seen....
There are way way more reasons why R5 gets so much hate. For starters the acting is just awful by almost all the characters including Stallone. And it has a lot of cringe moments. Like when his kid yells to his bully "go for it!!" before beating him up. Or when Rocky is losing to Tommy but suddenly the Rocky music starts playing and hears Mickey's voice and gets a jolt of energy it was like when Popeye eating his spinach giving him super strength it was that bad and cliche. It's just laughable from start to finish and ultimately an insult to the franchise.
Rocky V is underrated as hell. A great film that really could have ended the series in a great place. Rocky loses everything material, but regains his sense of self worth in the eyes of his family and himself, right back where it all started. It made everything come full circle, imo.
Agreed 100 percent
I also agree we’ll said!
I was always puzzled by Rocky Jr.'s age jump between 4 and 5.
Yeah, he jumps from about 8/9 to 14/15 in the time Rocky spends in Russia 🤔
That mistake is funny
That was dumb ok first hes like 7 then hes a dam teen ager next hes a man who has a job telling his dad not to fight when i think hes realy mad mommys gone to help him so now rocky can do what he wants ..be a MAN. One last fight
Which proves his point the doc was wrong
@@oldschool8330 thats just dumb life dont work like that
I find it a great movie.
It's incredible seeing someone brought down, and then rising back up again.
His son was honestly perfect for the role, he acted like a true, confused, angry young man would naturally act.
Love Morrison also, he was an actual boxer and acted like one, not some actor "faking" boxing.
The entire movie felt real, it was mixed with intense drama and also action.
I can't honestly see why anyone would hate it when it fits in perfectly with the story line.
He came from nothing but being a thug, made tons of money but never invested in himself to learn how to manage that, he fell back down because of his (sorry to say) ignorance, and then he climbed back up a stronger and smarter man.
After this part of his story, he learned and went on to have a successful business, he wouldn't have been able to do that before.
He stayed true to the character.
A winner knows how to fall but get back up.
Maybe it's not as "climatic" ad previous ones, but it shows a incredible story and dives more into the depth of Rocky.
Take Adrian for example, she loved Rocky for a reason, and many of those reasons show in this movie.
yes i agree 100 procent
Agree! It’s a great film.
Well said
thanks alot , great comment
Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
I loved the Mickey flashbacks of this movie. Without them, this movie would have been worse.
It sure would have been worse if they would have included that shot of Mickey yelling at him from a bridge.
I always thought that the flashbacks felf a bit odd, they made Mickey too nice
@@Aidenkong523it’s the last time Burgess Meredith was on film
@Richard Williams not true, he went on to appear in films such as grumpy old men and grumpier old men before he died in 1997.
@@Aidenkong523been working through the series with my wife and this was what made us turn the fifth one off. Mickey frickin' loved Rocky but I couldn't see him ever talking to him like that. Not in so many words, at least.
Really, what stood out in V was how overwritten it was. I & II felt direct and punchy, III & IV largely focused on the action and the ridiculous stuff was at least entertaining.
I intend to finish V, but man, I can see why people didn't care for it with that.
I always liked Oscar, I think it showed Stallone actually had great range but nobody could see him as more than the action guy. I truly don't think Stallone wanted to be an action star. I think he wanted to be seen as just a great actor but even his best works, "Copland" Rocky's 1-3 and Balboa, and even the original "First Blood" are great stories with action. I think he had to become the action star because he didn't have a choice.
Rocky V and Oscar are both underrated.
I don’t care what anyone says, this movie kicks ass 🥊
YES!
Exactly. Dialogue and All.
I understand if there are those who do not like this film. But, as for myself, count me in as someone who adores Rocky V. It has its flaws to be sure especially the age jump for Rocky's son and the power of attorney plot seems flimsy. After all, how could Paulie be in charge of the Balboa's finances when he was in Russia with Rocky and Adrian.
But what I've always said about this film and what I love about it is that it is essentially the Star Wars of the Rocky series, more specifically Revenge of the Sith.
All the 3 key players are there, Rocky is Obi-Wan Kenobi, Tommy Gunn is Anakin Skywalker ( he even has an Anakin-like mullett), and crooked fight promoter George Washington Duke is of course Emperor Palpatine.
Like Kenobi, Balboa has to eventually put down his once promising pupil who has embraced the dark side of boxing. And Rocky accomplished this without ever having to use the high ground😄.
But seriously, I love how the final confrontation is a literal street fight. Because at the end of the day, moreso than a professional boxer, Rocky is a down and dirty brawler from the streets, and that is true for many real life boxers as well.
I also give this film points for actually tackling the real life ramifications of prolonged boxing and the detrimental effect it has on the human body. And although the power of attorney plot is wonky, the truth of the matter is, there are a lot of athletes not just boxers who have gone flat broke because they did not know how to manage their money.
Also, everyone gets to shine in this movie, Talia, Burt, Sage (may he rest in peace), and of course Burgess Meredith (may he rest in peace as well) all have their moments in this film.
Yes, there is a lot to like about Rocky V.
I couldn’t agree with you more
I believe if you listen closely to scene it implies accountant convinces Paulie to have Rocky sign the power of attorney before they leave for Russia.
Yo as a stand alone film it's solid,but for the reasons you listed it sucks lol if u can ignore the flaws it's a good story
Furthermore, why the f*** would anyone put someone like Paulie in charge of millions of dollars.
@wendaltvedt4673 AGREED!. As I stated before, the power of attorney plot is flimsy, which is another way of saying it wasn't very well thought out, mainly for the reason you listed.
I understand what Sly was trying to accomplish with "Rocky V." He wanted to bring the character back to what made him likable in the first place, that loveable lug of a fighter from the streets with a heart of gold.
Hell, Stallone even had the character revert back to his old palooka dialect from "Rocky I and II" , where as in the 3rd and 4th films, Rocky spoke more eloquently. It was like he had educated himself after the events of "Rocky II." And it does make sense since Adrian was teaching him how to read in "Rocky II."
Ultimately, the idea of "Rocky V" may have been well intentioned and interesting in theory, but the end result underwhelmed. And yes, I am aware that Sly had thought of killing off Rocky in the 5th film.
Personally, I didn't want Rocky to lose his fortune. I always liked the "rags to riches" aspect of Rocky.
I still have a real liking for V, especially for its production history and workprint. I believe it was the first Rocky film I actually saw so it holds something close to my heart. It was a great era when this came out for films, no matter how hated this film was even by Stallone himself. I liked how dark it was in places and just how over the top the finale was. This did feel like a desperate attempt by Avildsen after coming off the backlash of The Karate Kid Part III. It certainly has a lot of problems but I appreciate the full circle approach of bringing it to a close at the time. I've always loved the closure with Elton John's 'Measure Of A Man.' Such a wonderful tune that doesn't get the praise it deserves.
Tommy Morrison was some fighter, and from what I've seen in his interviews, seemed to be very respectful and good guy and quite the opposite of the Tommy Gunn.
I never disliked this one. I always appreciated the Scaled Down approach, after how GRANDIOSE Rocky 4 was. I always wished they had gone with the Darker Version with the Unhappy Ending, but then we would have never gotten the amazing Rocky Balboa and the Creed Series.
Tommy Morrison was awful and the character George Washington Duke was obnoxious and annoying. Overall though, I like this movie.
@@carastone3473 The whole plot was stolen from cus/rooney, tyson Don King saga, the script even had some quotes stolen almost verbatim.
Even as a.kid I found it cringey and cheap they could do that
@@kennywilkinson913 You're a tool.
Rocky V has a weird feel about it: Burgess Meredith looked like he was 2 days away from dying, and Sage and the guy who played Tommy both had tragic deaths. Not a good movie, but without V to ground the main character again, we wouldn't have the AWESOME Rocky Balboa years later. So, V deserves a little bit of respect.
Rocky 5 better than 6
@@user-ji4vq8zd5f LOL
This film needs a directors cut.
It has one, and it makes the movie a lot better.
It was on UA-cam for awhile and it’s really good. That’s what they should’ve released.
I actually liked this film. It was nowhere as bad as reviews say it is
Hey, “Stop! Or my mom will shoot” is a guilty pleasure lol! I was hoping for a remake with Jason Statham and Betty White lol!
I saw it in 1990 in cinemas when i was 13. Love all the Rocky movies..
I loved the film but it gets a lot of hate thanks for the review keep up the fantastic work
This movie and Rocky 4 has always been my favorites in the franchise since I was a kid and I think Rocky 5 deserved a Director's Cut more than Rocky 4, the non-theatrical version that was leaked in the internet a few years ago is way, way superior than the one we know.
I used to hate this movie, but I have grown to appreciate it. It's a good chapter in the Rockey series.
how it should have ended. tommy gunn disrespects him, threatens rocky's family. Rocky gets a second opinion. its a misdiagnosis. gets treatment, is healed. comes out of retirement and challenges tommy to a fight in the ring and beats the crap out of him.
Easily, yes. I get what he was trying to bring it back to the roots since 4 was an amazing spectacle...but execution was meh. Only highlight was the street fight
Rocky IV had a director's cut recently. Wonder if Rocky V had one too, would it have made it an improvement?
i disagree
I always found it strange that there were two characters named Duke in this movie.
Completely underrated film. The final fight was the weakest part, but the acting and storyline leading up to it made a solid Rocky entry. Entirely more watchable than either of the Creed films.
Paulie turning binoculars into an alcohol flask is very underrated and innovative. 😂😂😂
Im old enough to remember seeing this in the theater and waiting the entire movie for the real villain to show up because Tommy Gunn was so atrocious
The real villain is George Washington Duke
My rewrite of Rocky V has Rocky coming out of retirement beating Tommy Gunn within two rounds and Adrian giving Duke Washington a envelope full of cash. Duke Washington: Mrs Balboa why did you do it? Adrian: Rocky had to get his pride back
If you were an adult when Rocky 1 came out and you watched them all, you'd have a point. But I was 9 when this came out, it was the first one I got to saw when it was released rather than years later. To me it was BRILLIANT
I don’t care what anyone says, even Stallone, this movie kicks @$$. Underrated. I’m still amazed Rocky’s last official match was in Rocky III. Accountant didn’t fool Paulie not signing over power of attorney, he had Paulie convince Rocky to sign it over, listen to that scene more closely.
Oscar is one of my Sylvester's favorite, albeit just an adaptation, but a good one in my book, because I feel they have found the good balance between theatrical and cinematic rythm
Dude I love this one!! It is NOWHERE near the quality of story and film of the first ROCKY. It's alot of fun to me, as I saw it in theater at 8 years old.
It’s not bad, it’s just a bit disappointing having a Rocky movie and he doesn’t fight, overcome whatever is thrown in his way and win the day with heart. I still like this movie.
I remember being confused by it some as a 10 or 11 year old . I didn’t really get how Rocky lost his money . But in the years since you’re right it does have its moments. The Mickey scene always gets me . I used to use “HomeTeam” with my kids when they where growing up . My 16 old daughter said the only day and it got me . What mainly hurts the film is a weak bad guy ( the promoter ) and Tommy Gunn. Tommy wasn’t likable enough to pull for and he was a weak villain at the end . Should’ve hired a actor and not a boxer . Tommy had no range as a actor . He played it pretty much the same . I wasn’t upset at all when Rocky took out Tommy . I wanted him to do it the first time they met.
I actually liked Rocky V! It had some of the best 1 liners throughout the franchise. "Tommy Gunn only fights n the ring." Rocky: "My rings outside." #classic
Maybe it's the nostalgia that makes me remember hating that totally of it's time track "Go For It" more than the movie itself. Again it may be nostalgia also but I didn't hate 'Stop/Mom' WHICH btw you never bothered mentioning how Arnold actually set Sly up with that role, intentionally! 😂
Talking bout -"Hahaaa! GOT HIM!!" Now just picture Arnold actually saying that 🤣🤣🤣
I really like this movie!!
In fact I like it a lot more than Rocky 2!
Rocky 2 has it's moments but as a whole it's a total snoozefest.
Rocky 5 has some amazing and genuine chemestry between Sly and his son!
I can't understand why people don't appriciate this.
And Tommy Gunn ain't the best actor but he was totally ok. And man could he fight!
I give this move a strong 3.5/5
Compared to the rest yes, as a film by itself. It’s perfectly entertaining and I can still enjoy it today
I can DEFINITELY APPRECIATE this movie for the STORY it tried to tell. It marks a SHIFT in the TONE AND SPIRIT of the movies to come.
This was the only one I had on vhs back in the day and always liked it, it’s not as great as the others but still a cool movie street fight was awesome
Rocky V plus Rocky II equals Rocky VII: Adrian's Revenge!
Fun fact: the kid who steals Robert's coat was played by Kevin Conolly, who would later star as 'E' on 'Entourage'.
Rocky V is a gem, especially looking back all these years I’m glad we get to see what Rocky was up to during this time. As an 80’s baby I only wish we got one more Rocky movie set during the mid or late 90’s because this one really captures that time well.
I always feel that Rocky V is a very underrated movie that seems to have gotten a bad rap over the years. It’s actually not a bad movie, ironically it had real boxer Tommy Morrison playing Stallone protege who turns on him. It has a mix that doesn’t quite work, but I do like the portrayal of the Don King type character. I really like the end line where he dares Stallone to hit him saying “ Come on Pug, touch me and I’ll sue.” To which Rocky (Stallone) punches him in the balls and replies “Sue me for what.” (This after we have the closeup shots of him clenching his fist).
Over the Top was super cheesy!! Yet I loved to watch it as a kid with my friends and brother and laugh at all the corny scenes. Then we’d pop in Tombstone or The ‘Burbs or Men at Work or even Quick Change for the 50th time and all would be right with the world again, or at least with that night haha
Great video JoBlo!!
Am I the only one that thought this was absolute trash? Tommy Gunn couldn't act his way out of a box. The plot between Rocky and his son was unbelievable garbage. The fight at the end was by far the worst one in any of the Rocky's by a wide margin. Not to mention that he lost all of his dam money and didn't even have a drug problem. Also, assaulting Tommy's manager at the end would get him some jail time. Oh yeah, the soundtrack was garbage. I am a big Rocky fan but I have to ignore that this one ever happened. Not trying to troll, those are just my thoughts. Great channel 👍
I liked Rocky 5 as a kid. I recently watched the movies again earlier this year after not having seem them in years, & I still enjoyed Rocky 5. It does have its faults, but there are a lot of good things in it. I thought there were some great scenes with Rocky & Adrian (the one near the end in particular was very good), & Mickey's cameo was also quite moving. Despite Paulie screwing up at the start, I did like how his character is throughout the rest of it. I also didn't think Sage Stallone was that bad.
Obviously, the premise could have been handled better, & it is jarring to see Rocky Jr as a young kid in 4, only to see him in his teens just days later in 5, but I still think there is a lot of good ideas in there that its no where near as bad as its reputation. Rocky Balboa is clearly a better film, but I still think 5 is decent.
Always thought this film was pretty good. It was a strange turn considering the previous outings, but I found it to be a heartwarming project. I was in 8th grade when this came out and was picked on because I had switched schools in the middle of 6th grade, so I identified with Rocky's kid. Always thought Gunn was a coked out weirdo, but having seen the movie more recently, see a deeper character. Great review. Thanks for making/posting it.
It may not be the best but not the worst. Its still entertaining especially the street fight. I saw it in theaters and people cheer just like the other rocky fights. I thought the fake Don King, Duke was amazing and should've been in part 6. Tommy Morrison and his real son, Sage acting debut was very impressive. The one thing I didnt like, was Rocky not getting his career back. He told his son, "Ill get it all back." Never did. The work print (it used to be on you tube) was better
I think the ending should have had Rocky and Tommy fight in the old ring at Mickey’s. Bringing Rocky literally back to the first ring we see him in.
I don't think that was Mickey's gym where he fought Spider Rico in the first one.
I wish Stallone would stop dumping on this film. IMO it was a good movie. Some of the best acting of the entire franchise was in this installment. That flashback with Mickey in the old gym is unforgettable. I truly enjoyed this film in spite of all its flaws
Thanks for putting the audio at -25 dB
I'm in the process of rewatching all of the movies and I hate how Rocky goes back to being dumb again. I felt like he had such a big character development through the first 4 movies this feels like he got restarted and everything got erased…
I’ve never heard anyone say this one is subpar or the worst. My uncle is the editor of Rocky 3 and 4, as well as Cobra, Over the Top, and a few others, and him and my cousins (who are also editors, the Zimmerman family). But I enjoyed the street fight finale and looked past Tommy not being able to act. Lol
I knew Irwin Winkler's driver and he said that Stallone valued Don Zimmerman's work so much that to entice him back to do one of the Rockys, he gave him a classic car and a sailboat.
@@williamshaw9047 I don't remember the sailboat but my uncle did get a 67 Corvette stingray and the boxing glove cufflink (my uncle still wears it daily as a necklace). It wasn't until Sly wanted my uncle to leave his family for several months to go to Thailand for Rambo 2 that he stopped editing his movies. 👍
@@gregmeyer9595 bro seriously, Hahaha has your uncle told you how is stallone IRL? I’m curious, I’m a big fan, have a lot of respect for him.
@@Adjor21 Because of the amount of respect you have for him, I won’t tell you the things I’ve heard from my uncle.
@@gregmeyer9595 😔😔😔😔
Rocky 5 was the first time i was Old enough to go to the Cinema and watch a Rocky movie so it holds a special place for me. Oscar was Awesome, I was Blessed to watch Stop or my Mom will shoot as a kid so back then i didn't mind it, BUT Over the Top well i love that freaking movie and its one of my favourites. I even loved Lockup.
Most people that said Rocky V was a bad movie don't know s**t about boxing.
Rocky V is below under rated. There's so much commentary about the fighting community. It's a lot smarter than people think.
From the CTE damage fighters get but have to keep fighting, to poor money management, corrupt promotions, up and comers with something to prove. There's so freaking much. It's not as good as southpaw though. I literally cry in that movie. It takes all my manly man combat athlete out of me.
Good storylines but poorly executed for the most part.
I have a great suggestion for a best movie you never saw episode. You should cover the boxing film gladiator from 1992. It stars James Marshall from twin peaks, Cuba Gooding jr., and Brian Dennehy. One of the best boxing films I’ve ever seen.
I watched that movie a lot back in the day. Dennehy was a great bad guy.
They need to make Adrian's Revenge.
Stop for my mom will shoot was effin hilarious. Especially if you have a grandmother that was from that area that Estelle was from because she had very similar mannerisms and speech patterns...just more bitter 😆
Just finished watching Rocky 5. Worst one of the franchise my ass, this movie was awesome! All the callbacks to the first 2 movies and going back to the streets of Philadelphia, the dynamic of Rocky ignoring his son in favor of Tommy, and then Tommy becoming the antagonist of the movie was a twist I didn’t see coming. People probably hate this one just because Rocky doesn’t fight in a big hyped up boxing match for the finale, but I appreciated that they did something different since the last 4 movies all end in a big boxing match, and Rocky fighting in a street fight is just plain awesome.
Nah this is one of my favorites....especially the fight at the end.
Worst? Yes. Bad? Not at all. What’s wrong with it is Robert’s age jump and narrative inconsistencies from the previous film(s). Stallone’s performance is actually brilliant in this film and one of his best ever. Somehow that gets overlooked by this film’s underserved reputation.
I've never seen Rocky Balboa, only Rocky I-V & the two Creed each one time. That being said, I don't wanna say it's the worst in the franchise because again, I've only seen them all once and I feel like I can find at least one good and bad thing in each. Like Creed losing to Pretty Ricky Conlan in the first film or beating Drago by DQ in the second. As far as the fifth film I enjoyed it. Of course it could have been better as evidence by Channel Awesome's Fanscription video, but just because it's the "worst" in the franchise, does not means it's one of the worst films ever. If you ask me it unarguably better than Grudge Match.
Sad but true. It has some great moments but I wanted to see Rocky beat Tommy's ass in the ring.
At least Rocky came back with a vengeance in Rocky Balboa, arguably the 2nd best movie in the series
I'm just honestly happy knowing that I'm not the only one who didn't hate rocky 5. I've seen it numerous times and didn't pick it apart based on critics telling me what to like and hate. It's at least an 9 out of 10 for me.
If anyone has done a disservice to boxing. It was Rodney King. He ate Mike for dinner when nobody else could. And Mike didn’t deserve that either.
Call me foolish. But I still like this movie. It has it's problems. But there was a good message and story in there. It just got lost.
And Delia Sheppard was so beautiful back then. It was right before she started doing her Skinamax late night movie career. Movies where there was no plot except the hot girl taking off her clothing and getting naked.
Who was Delia Sheppard in rocky V?
For starters the acting is just awful by almost all the characters including Stallone. And it has a lot of cringe moments. Like when his kid yells to his bully "go for it!!" before beating him up. Or when Rocky is losing to Tommy Gunn but suddenly the Rocky music starts playing and hears Mickey's voice and gets a jolt of energy it was like when Popeye eating his spinach giving him super strength it was that bad and cliche. Even the Mickey flashback scenes were cringe, Mickey loved Rocky but would have never talk to him that way. It's just laughable from start to finish and ultimately an insult to the franchise.
'Oscar' is my favourite Stallone movie, I don't care what anyone else thinks about it. I'm Dutch and this movie feels like old Dutch theatre comedies called 'kluchten', which I also like.
I actually think Oscar is fun movie of his. At least you didn’t say Rhinestone! 😂
rofl yes thats the most underrated movie of all time
As someone who grew up with Stallone's movies from Rocky onward's. The first 4 Rocky's were amazing, I even enjoyed Over the top, Lock up & even Rambo 3 a little! He embodied everything about 80's America, I think all of us kids in the U.K. looked at America with awe!!! Schwarzenegger was a great action hero, but Stallone was ALWAYS the under dog made good, so holds a special place as a reflection of that! I queued in snow covered ground for 6 hours to get in to see Rocky 4 in January 1985 (U.K. cinemas only had 3 screens at the time & each was showing a different movie) So I got to see the second showing on the opening day. The atmosphere was amazing! they stopped the advertisements & started the film because of the feet stomping & chants of "Rocky,Rocky, Rocky!" could be heard in ALL 3 screens. It was incredible! The cheers from us all at the end would rival ANY live event in an arena! Everyone exited on a massive high! Then the cinema experience of Rocky 5 was the exact opposite! We came out unanimously disliking the film immensely. So after the years of seeing Rocky 2, 3 & 4 at the cinema this hurt a lot! So I saw it that once & never again! I've seen the sequels after 5 and Creed 1 & 2 many times, but Rocky 5 remains a horrible blip in my memories!
What happened 4 use to get all the hate for silly reasons. 5 is a great return to hardship and character building
I watched, "Stop or My Mom Will Shoot" in theaters with my sister and mom. haha good times:)
As a kid I hated this movie. But after growing up and watching all of them you realize each one is a time capsule of the error that it's made in. This is the time of Mike Tyson and Don King. So I have to realizing that you kind of come to appreciate it a little bit more. And it's really not that bad
I thought 5 was okay,I think it's being more appreciated as it ages tbh.
Paradise Alley, Dammit! Do one on Paradise Alley!
You’re right! Might do a special ep on lesser known Sly movies like Paradise Alley, Victory & FIST
Great video
His flashback scene with Micky arguably the best in the series.
To be fair being the “worst Rocky film” is still something.. If they’d bright that robot back tho.. 10/5 stars.. but as is 4/5 stars..
.. speaking of w the release of Rocky vs Drago we need the new “Robot cut” where ever scene with the robot is expanded as much as possible with a full George Lucas/Special Edition deals! #releasethelucascut
Oscar is an absolute gem of a movie. It's made better by how clunky Stallone is and they lean into it.
I didn’t want to watch this when it came out, because I grew up poor, but I love & appreciate Rocky 5.
really looking forward to the next one. Oscar wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible... I mean Tim Curry... how bad can it be?? right? :)
The movie is not so bad, right. I guess it would have been recieved better, if they had used different music. Rocky III and IV were great, but the music elevated them alot. That was kind of missing. Hiphop suits the setting, but Rock would have pleased the fans more.
All of them were good but the only thing I remember from five was the promoter guy.
You hit me, I'll sue - PG (Rock punched him)
Sue me for what?! - Rocky
Between being an abusive drunk in Rocky, a racist in 3 and being swindled in 5, Paulie doesn't have a lot going for him.
I don't sweat you.
It makes me sad to see all the hate the film gets. It may not be the spectacle we got with 3 or 4, but 5 is a perfectly good movie on its own merits.
5 is one of my favorite Rocky movies to watch, it has an undeniable "so bad it's good" quality. One of my favorite bad movies of all time.
It's been a long time since I've seen this one, but I really liked that at least it tried to be different from the rest. He's retired, his student goes bad on him (and even in a relatable way) and he ends up fighting in the street. How couldn't that be appreciated? Rocky III to me is the lame, unoriginal one that deserves much more hate.
I hate franchises where the main character winds up back in the gutter. Come on, he was a multimillionaire now he's fighting in the gutter? What was the point of it all?
Yes this was a stinker.
Paulie could’ve sued Tommy Gunn for hitting him
I remember watching it on VHS as a kid and half way through the movie being massively disappointed. 3&4 was some of my favorite movies growing up.
Actually, the only thing I liked about this movie was the actor playing George Washington Duke. "You'll be making so much money, you could swim in it! (Turning to Rocky's wife, Adrian.) You can swim can't you?"
Gremlins 2; Ghostbusters 2; Predator 2 and Batman Returns were all sequels that at first were not well received by fans but over the years have been given a better appreciation and that applies to Rocky V, the flashback that Rocky has in the gym about Mick is always a tear jerker. About the one downgrade I give is the use of hip hop songs which was becoming more prevalent in in the early 90's because some chud studio president felt like getting hip to the youth culture.
Yes ok about the Music in Rocky IV was dated. Even the instruments in the movie can't be used in the 90' s. They were using the weird ass guitar piano thing for the music. Not one real instrument was heard. Even the daggone drum machine is an embarrassment after 1987.
I can't wait for them to review "Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot." That was a hilariously awful movie.
Oh it’s coming
thank you Arnold for blessing us with this film.
Spoiler Alert: *YES*
I think one of the reasons why people was hard on this film was that they had gotten so used to the high octane, fast paced action film type of what Rocky 3 and 4 have been and then going to back to the slow dramatic elements that the original Rocky was is what hurt Rocky 5. But looking past all that in hindsight in rear view mirror I think Rocky 5 is a solid film.
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I totally forgot about stop or my mom will shoot 🤣 I think I actually liked that movie and I didn't mind Rocky 5 I never saw Rocky Balboa and I never saw anything after that.
I've always loved this movie and I don't the get the hate for it..maybe it's cuz people thought it'd be the last time they'd see Rocky and were disappointed to see him go out at almost Rock Bottom(no pun intended) which yea it was sad to see him fall like that but he had already went to the top so where else was he going to go?... it's not the best movie in the series but I do feel it's underappreciated but not near as much now as it was back in the 90s and 00s..with Rocky Balboa and the 2 creed movies it's probably easier for people to accept how things turned out in this one but I've always loved it
Rocky V wasn’t that bad! The Work Print made the movie better.I liked Rocky V a little better than IV.
I appreciated Rocky V being more grounded in reality than the 4th movie,the thing that took me out of V some was in Rocky 4 his soon had to be about 8 or 9 & when he returns to America he’s 13 or 14.That was weird!