Hmm I always wanted a P90 guitar and being a Sabbath fan an SG seems fitting (I have the humbucker TI Signature Epiphone, fantastic guitar sadly discontinued). The candy apple red with some nickel covers for the P90s.... yum yum
I just bought one of these in sparkling burgundy; I haven't tuned it up yet...it came set up supposedly... But, the fingerboard looks and feels really dry so I think I'll oil it before I do tune it . I'm going to need to leave it for a few days for that to settle. The sounds you got were quite nice. This is my 3rd Epi SG, and my 1st guitar w/p-90s. Thanks for sharing!
I have a Mex fender player tele with two p90's and the pups are mud mud mud! middle position quacks but neck ot bridge on thier own is rubbish... sucks that I have to spend nearly 200 bucks to replace them when I can buy a whole guitar for that?!! Do these guitars need the pups changed?
it seemed ok when he was playing but he may have been careful to "hold" it in place with his right forearm ... because at the end he was very careful not to take both hands off. don't forget, this is an advertisement .
Let me be honest the Epi is a nice guitar especially for the money. But I own both and the Gibson is so much better sounding. I have a LP Jr DC with P-90 and it’s also a really nice sounding guitar. I opted to replace my Epi P-90 pickups with Dylan P-90s and they are extremely good.
Just came here from the Gibson review of this guitar and I hate to be that guy but man in comparison this one sounds like a hot fuckn mess. The Gibson sounded about as good as it gets.
I used to play Gibson SG Specials for many years until I came across this Epi, which plays just as good and sounds even better. The only downside is I had to go through a couple of them until I found one that had acceptable fretwork.
@@hansmemling2311 And some people are blinded by believing the cheaper options are just as good. Yes epiphone makes some amazing guitars, but to say this model is as good as the Gibson is just blatantly false as I've played numerous versions of both. Epiphone cheaps out on a lot of stuff that matters and NEVER, I will repeat, NEVER follows Gibson specs. They're only the same in shape but never in construction. You can't even argue this because the facts are plastered on every guitar they make. They're not the same company and people need to accept that
@@applesauceblues6952 You are making the same point I was making. Upon reading my comment I realise it might have been interpreted in both ways but in the context of who I'm applying to I think it's still clear that I'm on your side in this argument.
You probably know I've commented b4 about the EPIPHONE SG, I purchased the EPIPHONE SG Classic Worn Cherry for $20 cheaper than the Phelam blue , with many of the same appointments. Mine weighed in at 6lb 6 ounces. It has been absolutely nothing short of amazing. I love both finishes, great job on the reaction.
In case you were wondering, Gibson call their headstock the DOVE WING headstock, not open book. I got that directly from the, at the time, CEO and President of Gibson, Henry Juszkiewicz. I used to exchange a lot of messages with him about the Elitist line back in the day because I wanted details about the faded/worn 61 Elitist SG I had. Turned out they only made around 200 of those, but he had no specific numbers or documentation.
@@PlayandTradeGuitarsI also watched the full factory tour with Master Director Luthier DeCola, and he mentioned both terms and in fact mentioned the open book and mustache first, so you're chilling 👍🏻 Kudos to the guy for giving us another perspective though
One thing that I'm admittedly a bit confused about... Why does the Epiphone SG Special have the bridge P90 in the traditionally "correct" position for this model and the Gibson has it placed noticeably closer to the bridge? I wonder the reason behind the move.
I think having the p90 closer to the bridge gives more high end which suits better with modern music (the custom shop still has it in the traditional position)
I know I've commented on here a hundred times about it, but I really like the Classic SG with p90's in worn inverness green. I feel it's pretty much the same guitar as this one, but with the large batwing pickguard and a great finish. I still haven't gotten my hands on one to see how the neck feels. I guess it's time for another trip to Guitar Center to see if there's one on the wall. Nice one, Zach and John. Keep it up.
I have the cherry red one. Its a fantastic value. Hopefully you finally chase one down. I love the worn satin stain finish they put on it. Also I'm not a fan of wrap around bridges so the Classic having the stop bar and tune o matic is right up my alley. Compared to the P90s in my Gibson double cut the Epiphones sound slightly different but not in a bad way. They definitely have their own vibe.
I got one of these. Same color and all. The switch was intermittent. The dealer sent me another, same guitar. The switch was worse. Sent it back. Replaced switch on the original with Switchcraft switch. Then discovered the 20th fret was dead on 1st string. Not impressed. Some of these SGs are good, others not so much.
So true. The only recourse is to keep returning the duds until they learn to QC properly. I've only had online luck with Sweetwater, maybe because I list what I expect to receive at the end of their inspection and setup process. No experience with Zzounds, though.
Trying to find one with strings that are evenly centered on the neck, truss rod cover screws that haven’t been carelessly rammed in sideways, and tuners that have been installed symmetrically is kinda difficult.
Do you have an ongoing list of all the guitars you’ve reviewed and rated ? I’d definitely be interested in comparing them all in that format … anywho… another great video ! And great colour on that sg.
Have one of these and I love the pickup tone, the weight, absence of neck dive, and look of the guitar BUT I have some beefs. I have an `06 Epi Les Paul that has been my favorite guitar pretty much since I bought it (and put unpotted Burstbuckers 2 and 3 in it along with a '59 style wiring harness) and that has what I thought was the 60s era "slim" neck. I have a Gibson BFG LP and it has a much chunkier neck, so I thought I knew what to expect when a guitar was described as having the 60s slim neck and that the BFG had more of a 50s neck. Both this guitar and my Epi ES-335 have what I consider to be ridiculously thin necks. It's not really a C shape as much as it is a D shape and the D really flattens out a bit toward the back. I don't hate it to the point of it ruining the guitar for me, but I don't prefer it. Between the beefy BFG Gibson LP, my '06 Epi LP, and this neck, I choose the '06 Epi LP every time. My next complaint is the frets on this thing. They don't stick out enough to scratch or hurt my hand while playing, but the underside of the frets are sharp and do stand away from the binding in a way that no other Epi (or any other guitar for that matter) I've owned does, and I have owned 6 other Epiphone guitars over the years. Another problem I had was that the rhythem/treble pickup selector is wired backwards and one of the tone pots will do something weird where it seems that the lowest point in the sweep doesn't provide a solid end to the sweep and will actually feel a bit loose and go past that bottom point and cause it to get stuck at that point until I turn it all the way back up and that somehow pushes something that feels like is releasing whatever was trapping the wiper and even then, I have to turn it back and forth to sort of re-calibrate it. None of these things should be a problem on a $400 guitar. Not really even on a $200 guitar these days.
hey i read your whole comment and you mentioned no neck dive. This is exactly what i was wondering. Any chance of confirming this and possibly why it doesnt compared to other SGs?...cheers
@@jnixo9900 I don't have any other SGs. It is very light compared to all my other guitars. I'm not sure why it doesn't have any neck dive issues, but it's absolutely as balanced as any other guitar I've ever played. I'd say given how much any two guitars can differ in weight off the same production run, I might've just gotten lucky and got one with good weight distribution. It still could very much be luck of the draw.
I don't like that wrap around bridge.. " which approximates intonation positions for where the strings actually rest " ... no NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!
Hmm I always wanted a P90 guitar and being a Sabbath fan an SG seems fitting (I have the humbucker TI Signature Epiphone, fantastic guitar sadly discontinued). The candy apple red with some nickel covers for the P90s.... yum yum
I just bought one of these in sparkling burgundy; I haven't tuned it up yet...it came set up supposedly... But, the fingerboard looks and feels really dry so I think I'll oil it before I do tune it . I'm going to need to leave it for a few days for that to settle. The sounds you got were quite nice.
This is my 3rd Epi SG, and my 1st guitar w/p-90s. Thanks for sharing!
Already own it and I highly recommend buying one !!! Great episode as always !!!
agree 100% - it is an awesome guitar that is my number 1 go-to guitar.
thinking of buying an epiphone sg special and just replacing the stock pickups
That's what I will do. Sparkling Burgundy, most likely Tonerider hot P90s and nickel covers. I think the pots and all that are good.
That open book headstock epi sounds good 👍
Yes I own one it’s fantastic
Is it better than the Classic Worn SGs?
Tv yellow or this pelham?? Can't decide. Lol
i got my epiphone 8 yrs back from a pawn shope for 75$ money well spent
I have a Mex fender player tele with two p90's and the pups are mud mud mud! middle position quacks but neck ot bridge on thier own is rubbish... sucks that I have to spend nearly 200 bucks to replace them when I can buy a whole guitar for that?!!
Do these guitars need the pups changed?
A better set of pups would bring this guitar alive imho.
How was the neck dive on that example?
it seemed ok when he was playing but he may have been careful to "hold" it in place with his right forearm ... because at the end he was very careful not to take both hands off. don't forget, this is an advertisement .
The les Paul special sounded way better. You must have been using a different amp on each.
Pickups on sg are too close together
Let me be honest the Epi is a nice guitar especially for the money. But I own both and the Gibson is so much better sounding. I have a LP Jr DC with P-90 and it’s also a really nice sounding guitar. I opted to replace my Epi P-90 pickups with Dylan P-90s and they are extremely good.
i may buy this and convert to a jr so would need just a bridge pup replacement. Do you think the Dylan is as good as a Gibson pup?
Just came here from the Gibson review of this guitar and I hate to be that guy but man in comparison this one sounds like a hot fuckn mess. The Gibson sounded about as good as it gets.
I used to play Gibson SG Specials for many years until I came across this Epi, which plays just as good and sounds even better. The only downside is I had to go through a couple of them until I found one that had acceptable fretwork.
so you're saying that the EPI is better except that 90% of the gibsons are better as it is difficult to find a good EPI :/
Epiphones absolutely don't sound better lol. The probuckers are notoriously muddy
@ludoludo4334 some people are blinded by the price tag I guess haha
@@hansmemling2311 And some people are blinded by believing the cheaper options are just as good. Yes epiphone makes some amazing guitars, but to say this model is as good as the Gibson is just blatantly false as I've played numerous versions of both. Epiphone cheaps out on a lot of stuff that matters and NEVER, I will repeat, NEVER follows Gibson specs. They're only the same in shape but never in construction. You can't even argue this because the facts are plastered on every guitar they make. They're not the same company and people need to accept that
@@applesauceblues6952 You are making the same point I was making. Upon reading my comment I realise it might have been interpreted in both ways but in the context of who I'm applying to I think it's still clear that I'm on your side in this argument.
You probably know I've commented b4 about the EPIPHONE SG, I purchased the EPIPHONE SG Classic Worn Cherry for $20 cheaper than the Phelam blue , with many of the same appointments. Mine weighed in at 6lb 6 ounces. It has been absolutely nothing short of amazing. I love both finishes, great job on the reaction.
In case you were wondering, Gibson call their headstock the DOVE WING headstock, not open book. I got that directly from the, at the time, CEO and President of Gibson, Henry Juszkiewicz. I used to exchange a lot of messages with him about the Elitist line back in the day because I wanted details about the faded/worn 61 Elitist SG I had. Turned out they only made around 200 of those, but he had no specific numbers or documentation.
I got my information straight from Jim DeCola at Gibson, while looking at the headstock being routed. Thanks for watching
😂
@@PlayandTradeGuitarsI also watched the full factory tour with Master Director Luthier DeCola, and he mentioned both terms and in fact mentioned the open book and mustache first, so you're chilling 👍🏻 Kudos to the guy for giving us another perspective though
I am the guy who invented this type of headstock and I named it "Missionary spread" your welcome.
Moustache” was one I heard on a factory tour video by the operator of the particular machine that shaped the headstock.
One thing that I'm admittedly a bit confused about... Why does the Epiphone SG Special have the bridge P90 in the traditionally "correct" position for this model and the Gibson has it placed noticeably closer to the bridge?
I wonder the reason behind the move.
I think having the p90 closer to the bridge gives more high end which suits better with modern music (the custom shop still has it in the traditional position)
Oh i think we all know why and no need to sugar coat it
They make p90 sized humbuckers. 😉
2nd video and still sounds bad to me.
Great demo btw
Epis best kept secret. Mine gets more play time than any...I swapped for gibson pups, tonepros bridge and bone nut, transformed this beauty.
I absolutely love my Epi '56 Les Paul
I know I've commented on here a hundred times about it, but I really like the Classic SG with p90's in worn inverness green. I feel it's pretty much the same guitar as this one, but with the large batwing pickguard and a great finish. I still haven't gotten my hands on one to see how the neck feels. I guess it's time for another trip to Guitar Center to see if there's one on the wall.
Nice one, Zach and John. Keep it up.
I have the cherry red one. Its a fantastic value. Hopefully you finally chase one down. I love the worn satin stain finish they put on it. Also I'm not a fan of wrap around bridges so the Classic having the stop bar and tune o matic is right up my alley. Compared to the P90s in my Gibson double cut the Epiphones sound slightly different but not in a bad way. They definitely have their own vibe.
it's better to me than the one in this video because of the better bridge
You're making me want to buy one of these!
First, maybe?
I got one of these. Same color and all. The switch was intermittent. The dealer sent me another, same guitar. The switch was worse. Sent it back. Replaced switch on the original with Switchcraft switch. Then discovered the 20th fret was dead on 1st string. Not impressed. Some of these SGs are good, others not so much.
So true. The only recourse is to keep returning the duds until they learn to QC properly. I've only had online luck with Sweetwater, maybe because I list what I expect to receive at the end of their inspection and setup process. No experience with Zzounds, though.
Trying to find one with strings that are evenly centered on the neck, truss rod cover screws that haven’t been carelessly rammed in sideways, and tuners that have been installed symmetrically is kinda difficult.
Maybe I missed it, but how's the balance/neck dive?
Do you have an ongoing list of all the guitars you’ve reviewed and rated ? I’d definitely be interested in comparing them all in that format … anywho… another great video ! And great colour on that sg.
We'll definitely start to put together some compilations of the reviewed guitars and scores, thanks for watching!
I don't care about the potential neck dive issue....Give us a P90 SG with a proper 50's style neck
I hope they make a lefty version.
what would be best pickup height for the neck and bridge??
That les Paul is 🔥
I don't like the balance of SG guitars, I'd choose the LP style first
I think the classic worn sounds better. JMO.
Love it.
P90 to me scream Rock&Roll
And I'd love to win it!
Cheers all
Doug 😎
wow 203 Views in only 28 minutes awesome keep going
I’m trying to decide between this and the squire contemporary telecaster
I have the Sparkling Burgundy, it is a great guitar and is part of my daily rotation.
I bought one and regretted it ever since. I can't give it away.
Just got one today, thanks for the video... :)
Awesome, enjoy!!
Have one of these and I love the pickup tone, the weight, absence of neck dive, and look of the guitar BUT I have some beefs. I have an `06 Epi Les Paul that has been my favorite guitar pretty much since I bought it (and put unpotted Burstbuckers 2 and 3 in it along with a '59 style wiring harness) and that has what I thought was the 60s era "slim" neck. I have a Gibson BFG LP and it has a much chunkier neck, so I thought I knew what to expect when a guitar was described as having the 60s slim neck and that the BFG had more of a 50s neck. Both this guitar and my Epi ES-335 have what I consider to be ridiculously thin necks. It's not really a C shape as much as it is a D shape and the D really flattens out a bit toward the back. I don't hate it to the point of it ruining the guitar for me, but I don't prefer it. Between the beefy BFG Gibson LP, my '06 Epi LP, and this neck, I choose the '06 Epi LP every time.
My next complaint is the frets on this thing. They don't stick out enough to scratch or hurt my hand while playing, but the underside of the frets are sharp and do stand away from the binding in a way that no other Epi (or any other guitar for that matter) I've owned does, and I have owned 6 other Epiphone guitars over the years.
Another problem I had was that the rhythem/treble pickup selector is wired backwards and one of the tone pots will do something weird where it seems that the lowest point in the sweep doesn't provide a solid end to the sweep and will actually feel a bit loose and go past that bottom point and cause it to get stuck at that point until I turn it all the way back up and that somehow pushes something that feels like is releasing whatever was trapping the wiper and even then, I have to turn it back and forth to sort of re-calibrate it. None of these things should be a problem on a $400 guitar. Not really even on a $200 guitar these days.
hey i read your whole comment and you mentioned no neck dive. This is exactly what i was wondering. Any chance of confirming this and possibly why it doesnt compared to other SGs?...cheers
@@jnixo9900 I don't have any other SGs. It is very light compared to all my other guitars. I'm not sure why it doesn't have any neck dive issues, but it's absolutely as balanced as any other guitar I've ever played. I'd say given how much any two guitars can differ in weight off the same production run, I might've just gotten lucky and got one with good weight distribution. It still could very much be luck of the draw.
I want one of these to tune down to C# and jam some Sabbath!
Thinking about getting one, they look & sound awesome!!!
Bought one a year ago.
You can put a mini humbucker in a P-90 route 😎👍🏻
Why would you want to? Just buy a humbucker SG.
@@barcham I was replying to his statement, I didn't say to do it, just that it's possible.
sick
Who won that Less Paul? 🤔
Gold Top Deluxe went to a lucky winner in New York, thanks!
I'm looking at a LP junior with 2 p90s. Not sure if I should go for it.
Jr usually means 1 pickup.
@@globalnova aaaaaaaaaand whyshouldIcare? 🦄
I don't like that wrap around bridge.. " which approximates intonation positions for where the strings actually rest " ... no NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!
Intonation is always an approximation