Domestic EICR walkthrough
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- In this one i've been tasked with carrying out an electrical installation condition report (EICR) on a small domestic property, i show how i tackle some aspects of the process and my new Kewtech KT63 Plus multifunction tester, testing tips, while also giving an insight into a day in the life of a domestic electrician.
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Firstly putting your content on public display like this 💪👏👏👏👏👏.
I have been doing EICRs and PIRs before that 20 years. Recorded myself doing some 3 phase testing last week and didnt make clear about the Ze test I did! It happens.
Its really difficult to cover everything perfectly. Plus perfection does not exist in the first place!
I love your content Mike. Real world sparking for people out on the ground helps encourage and provide insight to lots of current and future sparks.
Keep it coming, look forward to the next one.
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Best eicr test I have seen on UA-cam ,explaining everything and how you got the results ,could not fault it, 👍
Second that. Great example.
Few things explained better from a "commercial" electrician than a "domestic" electrician.
Thank you.
Great work! As a sparky I can say this is very beneficial, and helpful, for people new in the trade and existing electricians. Thank you.
It's so nice to EICR a vacant property and easy for remedial if required. Looking forward to more commercial/industrial. 👍🏼
One of the best testing videos mate
Little pointer for you. Cut a single socket of an old extension lead and short out the terminals. Then plug it in to null you 3 pin plug socket lead.
Thanks for that. Very detailed testing and inspection vid. Its great to get a refresher after being away from colly since June 👊👍
Quality video mate! Really informative. I’ve got the tester before this the KT64 and I’ve also got a Megger 1730 and I prefer my Kewtech. Like you say the RCD all on one page is great, the fact you can just turn the dial (on the KT64) for PFC/PSC not having to change your leads over is ace. Find the readings to be really accurate and consistent too and I’ve had mine about 6 years. Keep up the good content mate
@@residualelectrical Yeah really underrated testers, when mine eventually gives up the ghost I’ll replace with a KT63 or the newest version when it comes out as they are so impressive.
Another cracking video. I'm surprised you say you're nervous, as you seem a natural in front of the camera: a very amiable, watchable chap! Keep up the good work.
Watch the kewtech luminaire adaptors, they're expensive but poor quality. The ES one I've got untwisted from the metal ES part leaving it in the lamp holder. Well annoyed given their price.
I hear what you say about the armchair electricians but you do raise some interesting points perhaps worthy of comment - just stop here and ignore them if you're not interested.
Re the 10mm2 from the MET to the head. While it may not meet the required size by the local DNO, the adiabatic can confirm its adequacy electrically.
Re the 0.05 ohms resistance of the main bonds, GN3 seems to suggest that this is not the resistance from the MET to the bonding clamp (pg 45) (I know it's in the IV section but the same presumably applies to lengths when I&T).
Re the type AC RCDs. The main issue is perhaps the presence of loads that introduce DC. The much maligned codebreakers suggests that C2 be given where such loads are present, or turn the loads on and test the RCD while under those loads (which may damage the load).
When checking the cooker R1+R2, did you check whether the hob and and oven are actually connected to the cpc?
Re splitting the ring at the socket, it is perhaps advisable to break the ring elsewhere also, to check you haven't got a figure 8 ring. Yes, this could be checked by the increased resistances for the figure 8 but you don't know if those resistances are figure 8 or spurs, unless inspected and split apart, so simply breaking the ring in two places is quick and simple, so ideally at the CU and farthest point.
Re all the other sockets being within 0.05 of each other, that's incorrect. The 0.05 only applies to the difference between r1 and rn in step 1 of testing a ring final cct - otherwise you couldn't have an increased resistance of a spur. See:
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Nothing wrong with pressing the plug onto metal to null the leads!
According to section 3 of GN3, no sampling of domestic installations is applicable because they are simple installations.
For that globe fitting at the bottom of the stairs, the kewtech adaptors would not have helped because you still needed to unscrew the base to access the cpc. And did you flick the switch to check polarity?
Careful yanking the leads out of the tester like that, they can be damaged internally, and they aint cheap.
According to electrical safety first, the heating controls e.g. zone valve, should have their connection to the cpc confirmed, so not just at the socket.
You're correct to just note issues with smoke alarms on the cert, as suggested in BPG4.
I prefer to disconnect main bonds in simple installations to confirm continuity, to negate any effect of parallel earth's, then reconnect and check for 0.05 between the conductor and pipe, which checks the clamp connection is sound.
This was another televisual feast, so thanks for doing it. 😀 Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 🎅🎄🍺🎉
I could be wrong but I think those RCD’S are of the ac type indicated by the waveform symbol on the front of them. Very knowledgeable guy though, if I do say so myself.
Thanks for a very informative video.
It was interesting to note that the worst connections, with the most copper on show, were the ones made in the Wylex factory!
Bang on,,,,this is the best I've seen
A tedious job very well demonstrated! I have a Kewtech KT63 which annoys me intensely with it's auto off and constantly having to null the shortish leads. I have just bought a Megger 1711. Not used it yet, but noticed that the leads are a bit longer. Was tempted to go with the KTplus but was in two minds. Just one little thing.....the central heating system is plugged into a switched socket. That should be a DP fused connection unit or a non switched socket outlet I believe. People working on it may just switch it off at the socket, leaving the plug still in, thus not providing double pole isolation. Really great video though!
They could also unplug and put an extension lead in then connect both. Would that overdraw the circuit/socket?
Very described and presented, you have an understanding well ahead of your years, great work ethic.
I try not to disturb the board, well as little as possible, so normally link out bus bar to earth bar then flip each mcb to do the r1r2. Do the ring from a socket then go around and take the highest reading. Some times it’s difficult to access the wiring in the board if it’s been poorly done in the first place. Great video, I’m pleased you mentioned how long these can take. Much easier in an empty property. Keep up the vids.
@@residualelectrical My mate though, turned the main switch on and forgot to remove the link. He told me there was one hell of a bang from the main cutout. 😂😂😂
thats all well and good..but you then forgetting about parallel paths. NICEIC inspector picked me up in trying the link out earth bar to bus bar on mcbs.
but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do...
the best EICR test i have ever seen 👌👌tnx mate
A good way to null your plug lead out is on a safe d40 clip, also its a lot easier carrying out your r1+r2 and figure of 8 connections with kewtech jumper link leads that way you only need to remove your main bonding conductors from the earth bar for the parallel paths, also check both sides on the socket fronts as they can vary hugely sometimes. Probably a C3 for the room stat cable, Keep up the good work, Look forward to viewing some more work on the industrial videos.
Good video. It would be nice to have a quick sketch of wiring diagrams of circuits you test to help apprentices follow along. Just a very rough sketch before you start testing. It would be a great help.
Another quality vid pal. That 10mm when checked using the Adiabatic would more than likely comply anyhow.
Nothing really wrong nulling the lead out like that, if its nulled don’t matter how its done. I have an unswitched single socket on a pattress, linked out with 6mm in the back
Top Genuine Guy! Keep the uploads coming bud.
22:43 love the wiring outside the window on the opposite flat 😆😆😆
Your smashing it mate. Keep up the good work👌🏻
What is everyone's EICR testing order? Have you managed to perfect a sequence that saves time but still covers all the testing requirements including the visuals and functional checks.
They are type ac rcds. Type A are the new ones that can detect dc leakage as well as ac leakage
Top notch testing 😎 well done and thanks for sharing with us young ⚡️. Could you please explain a little bit more about taking samples ect.? 👍🏽
Cracking video mate. Very informative as usual 👌
Really good video mate. you should do more on domestic properties. Great knowledge.
Loved the vid Mike thank you.
Just the best thanks great content 👍🏻
Hi Mike, what was problem that wander lead could note be nulled out (I've never experienced that problem with my wander lead) [but it wouldn't be a problem, as long as we note wander lead reading & subtract it from reading, cheers Ian
Battery in the aico might not be dead. I think from messing about with them in the past they disconnect when you take them off the base although I could be wrong. Would have thought it would beep though. Excellent videos thanks.
@@residualelectrical thanks for reply. This aico ei146rc I’ve got at home doesn’t work if you take it off the base. If you short the centre two out of the four contacts on the back of the alarm then it does.👍
Excellent vid great display of knowledge.
Really informative! Cheers Mike 👍👊
Great informative video, just wondering do you ever check the connections behind the ovens ? Looks like it was a single oven (poss 3Kw) and a hob ignition both connected to a 32amp circuit? Do you inspect connections to check appliances are fused down and cables are suitable?
Brilliant content. Great knowledge
Alright bro.. if you can prove via adiabatic equation that 10mm earth is adequate for ADS, then is having a 10mm ok? Or is it a straight reg regarding meter tails and main earth? Can't remember what table it is on the regs that states the sizes of CPCs
Such a good video bro really enjoyed this one. How would you do Zs at DB?
Nice video Mike.. I’m looking for a used MFT. Any recommendations? Around £300.
Just a quick question? If you are trying to null out 50m of single core cable (yes multi strand ) while coiled in a 300mm diameter circle will this not give you a different inductive resistance value as to when you then pull out say 10m from said reel and therefore give you a lesser inductive resistance value? The voltages and currents are small when measuring resistance but can be significant. Just a thought. Great videos and I thoroughly enjoy watching them. D.
You don’t need to be part of niceic to perform EICR’s do you? As long as you’re competent and experienced?
Nicely done bud 👌🏼 few things I’d do differently but hey ho, still a well executed EICR !
also, get yourself a single socket and back box and just link out all 3 terminals for your test kit, to use for nulling your plug lead 👊🏼
@@residualelectrical ahh I see then, don’t take it as bad criticism because I’m not that kind of person, I’d be well happy with that EICR.
I personally would have measured Zs rather than calculating it (usually both tho)
Unless you did that later in the vid, I’ve not finished it yet, kids started screaming at eachother 😀
@@residualelectrical totally understand, I was 100% commercial for 8 years, since college to 18months ago 😃
And yea calculated R1+R2 is a complete last resort imo but sometimes you’ve got to do whatever you can.
Should you not clamp the meter onto the main earthing conductor to detect any leakage?
Very nice vid. I’m just getting into eicrs. Can I ask a question. Should you take the r2 reading from the pins on the light switches? It’s the only thing I missed. But you’ve just saved me so much time. I’d basically do an initial verification each time.
How did you manage to build those circuits with all those fields the same, for example RCD all the same? I use this almost daily but didn’t realise you could do that! Would save so much time on EICRS! As you say with the NICEIC website it’s a bit clunky but have worked most bits out but not this! Will have to have a play!
@@residualelectrical Thanks fella , honestly didn’t know you could do that, you’ve just saved me loads of time filling out Certs. Really appreciate that 👌🏻🤣👏🏻
Toying with the idea if buying the mb3b does it have enough pockets to add some basic hand tools to the bag for testing like the c.k test bag does?
well done good job
What is the little laptop PC tablet thing you use, it's very small and handy.
Who makes it?
Thanks.
The Kewtech 2200 clamp meter you said doesn’t do Earth leakage! This is wrong it only measures current it’s not an all in one current and earth leakage tester which I have yet to see, Would be nice if they made something that did the both!
Great video mate 👍
Thats a hell of a long cooker circuit if r1+r2 is 0.42
Good video though mate, enjoying your content
what's the cable size for cooker? 0.42 is high if its 6mm, and 0.42 reading for will be for 40 meter run of 6mm twin and earth or maybe you need to null your leads
other was so real job man well done🙏
.42 on cooker circuit what’s wrong with that it’s a 2.5 cpc
@@seandyson1677 is it on 32A fuse?if its on 20 A its ok
@@azadarzaani8911 you’ve lost me it’s a r1 +r2 reading add it to Ze .14 = Zs .56 not measured calculated maximum on 32a mcb 1.1
@@seandyson1677 32A mcb and 2.5 mm cooker circuit? max can be used 20 A mcb for redial circuit.you can use 32 A mcb on ring circuit with 2.5 mm cable
How do you know what size and type of fuse is in the cutout with out physically opening it, which we are not aloud to do theoretically? So how would you write that on a cert or do you just assume its a bs1361 type 2? Thanks
Might pay you to get one of those mats to protect client's worktop 😏
I am currently undertaking my apprenticeship with a domestic firm, they carried out 3-4 Eicrs in a day about (8am-5pm) but it wasnt in depth as portrayed within the video. Isit possible to do 3/4 eicrs like this ? Or we go with LIM ?
Good video man! Been following you since you done the podcast! Love the work! As the some of the cables where short for your r1 r2 You could link the earth bar and bus bar. Just thought I’d add it in if it makes your life easier if it happens again, keep with the videos
Can't wait. I'm first in the queue 🤣
@@residualelectrical sure it will be. Looking forward to the content. I'm new to the business (change in career in my forties 🤣). Been doing it about 3 years and thinking of going at it on my own so need all the advice I can get 👍. Follow the kopex king's (Nick Bundy) lead and you won't go far wrong.
@@labelectrical just look after your customers,do a good job for a fair price then they will recommend you to there friends,good luck 👍
Best eicr UA-cam film I have seen,basically explaining everything and how to calculate the results ,and glad you mentioned that you actually test the continuity and not take for granted by visual inspection,top job which I can not fault 👍
Best testing vid I have seen in a while. Also like the explanations of it all. Good content and if this is how the vids will be then I will continue to watch. Well done pal. P.s seeing as I was first in the cue do i get the first residual current t -shirt 🤣. 👍
Do you ever have issues with your employer or customer letting you record?
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I don’t use kewtech however when testing the bonding it’s says 1.00 but you said 0.01? Does you meter show it differently?
Great video though very well done.
What do u vlog with go pro ?
@@residualelectrical do You use an external mic or the go pros internal ?
@@residualelectrical nice I’m a spark by day but have hobby dog lover and hopefully breeder soon just looking at what’s best to
Film with as I’ve been using my phone and gimbal but pain in the rear using ur phone memory battery all of that malarkey I’ve a dslr but too bulkey so looking between the osmo pocket 2 and go pro hero 9 when I’ve a few quick spare
Nice vid, can i work with you?🤙
100A fuse on 25mm supply? Bruh......
На камеру все красиво работают))) Интересно по факту все проверяете или процентов 50?
Еще не понятно зачем туда сюда бегать когда можно на бумагу все записать, а потом ввести в ноут.
Armchair experts that made me laugh , how old are you? some experts do it for a living