The Most Extreme Alfa Romeo 4C: Marco Gramenzi' 600hp New Hillclimb Monster!!
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During the 2016 Trofeo Vallecamonica Italian hillclimb I was able to see and record the new hillclimb weapon of Marco Gramenzi.
It's an Alfa Romeo 4C based project built and developed by Picchio Racing (a small race cars manufacturer) in order to compete for the title in the 2017 CIVM, the Italian hillclimb championship.
Call it "Alfa Romeo 4C" is probabily a bit wrong because the only things that are still from the original car are the carbon fiber chassis and part of the external look. Everything else is new.
The wheelbase has been extended of around 30 cm, the suspensions are push-rod type and it mounts 13'' wheels (like Formulas or Prototypes).
The engine is a longitudinally mounted 1750cc 4-cylinder which is now able to produce 600 hp at 8200 rpm and 580 Nm of torque at 7500 rpm and it has been combined with a Hewland TMT-200 sequential gearbox.
Watch and hear it during its second official race (still used as a test for next year's championship) doing a warm up and a few fly-bys and accelerations on the hillclimb course!
Camcorder: Canon Legria HF G40 & G30 + Canon DM-100 Microphone
Event: Trofeo Vallecamonica 2016
Where: Malegno-Ossimo-Borno, Italy
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they put a car on that wing
Lars Agerbæk since the 4c is super light, they need a lot of downforce for that 600hp
that wing makes the car looks tiny😂😂
That's not a wing. Looks more like a goalpost.
Lol, I though your joking. But then I saw the wing on the first second xD (I have very bad internet so the video needs a while to load)
its about time someone went crazy with a 4c.
cheapest way into a true carbon tubbed sports car.
blackpanthaa has just approved the HUGE WANG!
Theo would have an orgasm looking at that wing.
biggest wang I've ever seen.
Bellissima questa 4c, anch'io l'ho vista dal vivo al circuito di villa torre che è a pochi km da casa mia...
ma quindi Gramenzi ne ha 2 di queste 4C? ...XKè io ne ho vista anche un altra sempre guidata da lui , con motore e livrea diversa!
Holy Crap!!! Seriously Mirdered 4C!! Awesome rear end, Thanks for sharing Bozzy.
No problem! Thank you for watching
Thanks for uploading so much! Again :D Love to see those crazy things. BTW was this ever a real 4C or is it just a body that looks like a 4C? The back portion of this car looks so heavily modfied.
You're welcome! From what I know they really took an Alfa Romeo 4C and heavily modified it. Talking about the body they modified a lot the back portion of the car because after an aerodinamic study they necessarily have to modified a lot of in order to improve the flows on the back. Plus the wheelbase has been extended so the original body of the 4C it would have been too short
***** Thank you for those informations. It's realy interesting to know such things about the cars.
holly molly. that's the most badass alfa romeo right now
Spettacolo allo stato purooooo siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii GRANDI .................
thats one sick RC car
Interesting car. The quality of this video is superb.
Thanks!
I thought this car was nothing more but a myth, until you got it on video. Well done! ;)
Thanks!
Grande el Alfa!!! gran video......Fantastic work as always!!
Thanks a lot!
Just another 4c with a big wing and diffuser, tuned engine, F1 tires, stripped out... you know nothing special.... lol
The X PoinT you don’t get the Joke do you? Ps how do you know is german
I think they also turned the engine to inline from transverse. The inboard push-rod suspension is a pretty big give away.
and fake headlights
Still super cool tho admit it
Wow what a machine!!! Seriously bad ass! they need to put that beast on Assetto Corsa so I can get a glimpse of its madness.
These guys are nuts !!!
Sounds like a bad ass bike.
I own a 4c and altho they're superb cars my honest assessment is that their limitation is no manual and no power steering. You give these cars those two things and everyone would want to tune them since they're so light and agile
2:44 the policeman is maybe a bit disappointed? 😂👮
Looks like a vintage racer! I love it :-D
How
I assume it's the size of the car, the small wheels with fat tires and the livery.
Large flares on the wheel arches, small wheels and overall roundness
Il porcone a 3:39 ahahahah
It looks like a big Kart with those wheels!
Daaaaaaaamn. Pretty!
So apart from the rear lights, what else is still a 4C?
the name
the engine and the carbon fiber tub
boothegoo pc the engine.
boothegoo pc the chassis
Motor oil may be
10X beastly as the roadgoing
That is insane!
Those tires look like real F1 Pzeros :D Nice shit 👌
non vedo l ora di vederla nella prossima Trento Bondone...però sostituire la 155 v6 DTM...è dura...era la più bella che saliva su x quei tornanti....
Ho letto che stanno progettando di mettere sulla 4C il motore della 155 v6 DTM
o forse fanno prima a prendere tutto l'avantreno e montarlo di dietro :-)
Ma nessuno ha preso la 155 TI?! Facciamo la colletta!!!
c è un suo video sempre di automoto alla coppa Paolino Teodori sempre con Gramenzi dove la fanno vedere e parla proprio di sta cosa del motore della 155 che voleva metterlo li ma non riusciva non ricordo x cosa....lo trovate su youtube .. presenta la 4c e la fa vedere come è costruita...bel video pure quello
Si molto bello quell'intervista. Mi sembra centrasse qualcosa a livello di trasmissione/cambio Hewland, costruita per sopportare un certo regime di giri, e il motore della 155 che ovviamente è stato progettato per girare a 2-3 mila giri in più rispetto alla soglia limite del cambio. Poi sicuramente ci sono in gioco anche dei pesi diversi
La bestemmia a 3:36 ha dato al video quel sapore in più di cui aveva bisogno.
600 hp and 580 nm from a 1750cc 4 pot.. wow!
Sei un grande!!!!!!!
Grazie! :)
19Bozzy92:
if you would recommend 1. Event in Italy 2017, what would it be? ^^
iT MUST BREAK DOWN ALOT OWITH THAT PUSH BAR ON THE BACK
Alfa's contestant for the Pikes Peak race?
LALFA è sempre LALFA non c'è niente da dire alla faccia delle bmw
how did they make a 4c ugly thats talent right there
How do u get 600bhp out of 1.8 l..engine
What kind of monster is this?
what size of wheels are these
did alfa romeo come up with this or did someone mod a 4c
sounds like a chainsaw while warming up
Mon reve d alfa la 4 c en 4 cylindres ou en v8
I really miss the lower genuine Alfa sound. This is a Fiat Abarth motor.
Monster...,!!! (y) ;)
If someone could educate me please on following:1. why so small tires?2. Does it really generate any downforce behind the rear wheels? Isnt that area with so much turbulance it would not generate anything?
Can answer only to question number 1
They choose 13'' tires both because these are the only tires built specifically for hillclimbs by Pirelli and because Picchio produces an hillclimb prototype from which I assume they've copied all the mechanical low part to built this 4C. Since hillclimb prototypes wear 13'' they put the same tires on this 4C so they have all balances and weights data tested
The further back the rear wing, the more leverage it applies to the rear axle and hence more down force for the same level of drag.
I believe the aero work behind the wheels are to control the turbulence you mentioned and not allow it to interfere with the diffuser. And any time they're directing the flow of air it'll help some. Is it a massive gain though probably not.
Can you cut the grass with that? I might need it
ma le ruote sono della F1??
Formula 1 tires
Kein Vergleich zum Alfa 155 DTM,der Sound ist mäßig,ist halt ein 4 Zylinder.
those wheels look very small ! are the 17inch or less ?
13 inch F1 size wheels.
Possibly 13"-14", same as F1 cars
Sì sono da 13
2:58 What's that small rubber pipe for?
I think it could be for condensation in the exhaust . Really don't know :(
Hi,where can i find out about the hillclimbs,dates and location,where to stay etc,here in England we only have small and not very interesting ones,would love to come and spectate next year :-).
Here: www.rallycross-photo.com/heuvelklim2/
Just choose the country (if a country isn't shown, click "other championship") and select the calendar/championship
thanks,ill give it a go :-)
3:34 when she's never shaved and you tryin to find the fish taco
stfu
only the shell remains the 4c
In motorsport, a car is just a chassis anyway. What you put in it doesn't matter.
Nope, even motor! :)
+xRUSH3R_ Non si può dire in entrambi i modi?
+xRUSH3R_ Mi fido! :)
OMG dio fa come sdrummaaaaaaa
What the fuck, there's a car on that massive wing
and look at those diffuser, christ...
LOL
Since the video could be a bit boring for someone:
00:00 - 1:35 details and things that make the video longer
1:35 - 3:17 warm up
3:17 some action
Videos of this quality are never boring. Fantastic work as always
Yes but there's always someone who complains about everything. Thank you anyway!
Yes, thank you! I hope this stays a thing.
no its not boring :P
I'm here to make a complaint, such a good video I forgot to bid on a wet suit on eBay. That is all.
Would be interesting to compare the downforce figures of this "4C" with downforce data of GT3 cars or some silhouette touring cars like GT500 or DTM.
We cannot know how much downforce it develops and at what speeds, but in the CIVM there are real GT3 and in most races, they are faster than this 4C and also the Picchio one.
I'm considering these are all excellent drivers, so I think the difference is in the cars.
There is a fictional gt3 4c in gt sport...I know from what they were inspired by...
I don´t think any parts of this car can even be traced back to a 4C... just the shape of the bodywork, really.
Jeremy J. The Whole point of hill climb try see if an Suzuki escudo shares anything with the base car
At this point it’s like a stock car, the only thing that makes it lol like the road car is the shell and it shares no parts with the road car
Well it's a heavily modified race car, of course it's gonna be very different
bellissima veramente niente da dire....ma io scelgo tutta la vita la 155dtm
I think it looks silly to put "headlight stickers" on racecars.
If they have headlights, they have 'em.
If they don't, those silly thingys aren't going to convince anyone.
It's for recalling the street version... but yeah, it's kinda stupid!
Sure as hell looks better than having nothing at all there.
disagree, it would look better just smoothed over.
it's fairly common with racing cars and I am guessing that it has some sort of marketing purpose.
If it's a factory-backed Alfa, then chances are they want to recognise which streetcar it is based on, in the hope that you might be inspired and go buy yourself one!
if it's not a factory car, then I dont know
Holy F*CK dude, that thing is crazy!
Really crazy! ;)
Drift.ro xD
First time I’ve seen someone make a 4C specifically for the track/hillclimb. It’s a car that hasn’t been messed with a lot and I really don’t know why since for around $50k you get a crazy lightweight car with a carbon fiber tub, DCT transmission, mid engined turbo 4 cylinder
Wow 600hp from 1750cc!? Impressive.
1.6 turbo inline 4 with 500-600 hp existed and raced in the 80s..
+MyRealName 1.5s with 1300hp were raced in the 80s m8
Nicholas Bainbridge For some reason I excluded F1 engines here, that BMW engine (I suppose that's what you're talking about) actually had even more, up to 1500 hp!
But it would last only 3 laps at full boost.. 5 to 700hp was used to last the whole race..
+MyRealName I went conservative since it was never dyno'd. It definitely had 1300+ though
1:09
"hmmm nice.....oh wait why isnt the door at the front? Oh maybe it's a seagull type door" *goes back a couple of seconds*
"WHERE THE HELL'S THE DOOR AT"
You can see it placed near a bush at 0:34
Man... Function totally killed this 4C's form
it looks amazing what are you talking about? x.x
I thought the same! The air intakes over the back wheels totally destroys the 4C line! But stil a very cool car!
I think it looks amazing tbh
Mario kart meets alfa
2:20 When you get pulled over and cops try to find an illegal mod
Someone needs to make a mod for this in AC!
the wheels are so tiny
They need the sidewalls for sure.
Those rims make it look like an AFX car.
+ta tata
It's a race car. It don't need to be beautiful. It need to be faster. If it was necessary change the distance between the two wheels, enlarge the fenders, and put a big wing to make a good race car, don't complain about the exterior line. A lot of others race cars are more ugly but no-one complained about that.
+ta tata
Some time ago (like, I think, a couple of months) I saw a video that shows in the details all the modifications made on the car. Unfortunately it was made by an Italian channel (owned and directed by a car-magazine) so, if you aren't prepared on our language you won't understand nothing. It was an interview to the driver about everything about the car (the idea to take the 4c as a starting point, the modifications to chassis engine brakes etc and why and how they have made them). At a point of the video the journalist, that work for the Italian magazine that talk about cars, ask to the driver why the wheels are so tiny, and it answered that for the fact that the change the distance between the front axle and rear axle they had to redesign the car ENTIRELY And after some test they found that the right choice for the car were those little Formula 1 style wheels, because they work better respect any other size and type of wheels with suspensions (that now if I remember well are push rod type), sway bars, springs ecc. The also change the position of the engine changing it from traversal to longitudinal putting it lower because In this way, it was easier mounting the Hewland sequential gearbox. Another incredible feature was the exhaust, composed by three tubes, and one of them, the smaller, is the wastegate exhaust, like in the Ferrari F40.
*****
I assume you are being sarcastic.. you should know sarcasm doesn't transfer through text...
Bozzy, il video è stato pubblicato sul sito di TopGear: www.topgear.com/car-news/motorsport/video-600bhp-modified-alfa-romeo-4c-your-hillclimb-hero
what i love about your channel is that you film the cars from far away like at 4:00 . keep doing this please you are the only to do this and i love it.
Glad you like that thing! When I get the chance I always do it
Ciao! Il proprietario di dov'è? sull'alettone c'è scritto picchio.. sai per caso se la macchina è stata prodotta (o anche solo qualche pezzo) intorno ad Ascoli Piceno? La ditta Picchio dovrebbe essere di queste parti!
si e li! ma la ''picchio'' ha curato solo, alettone e roll-bar
Can we talk about DAT EXHAUST for a moment? :D
At the first sight it looked to me like a lawn mower. When he started the engine I knew I was right.
The wing is so big. The car also very beautiful
E' pazzesca! Il posteriore con l'estrattore enorme, la super ala e gli scarichi che sembrano tubi grezzi tagliati e sparati in alto! :-O Incredibile che siano inoltre riusciti a tirar fuori 600 CV! Nel 2017 prevedo scintille! Bel video e gran colpo! ;-)
Grazie Teo! Come ti dicevo davvero non mi aspettavo di vederla in quest'anno solare e invece sono stato smentito. Costruita davvero bene, ma son curioso di vederla tirata come si deve l'anno prossimo perchè secondo me ci stava solo passeggiando
+19Bozzy92 credo tu abbia ragione 👍
Speriamo in una buona affidabilità! Sai mica perché hanno optato per dei '13? Forse per la maggiore agilità e la minor soggezione a buche e sconnessioni? :)
Già quella è sempre l'incognita. Da quanto ho sentito dire da Gramenzi stesso in un'intervista fatta da automoto.it la scelta era tra le 13'' e le 18''. Hanno poi scelto le 13'' perchè sono le uniche gomme sviluppate e progettate dalla Pirelli apposta per le cronoscalate, in particolar modo per i prototipi. E la Picchio fa prototipi...
The whole rear engine turbo setup with a massive firewall between the driver reminds me of group B! EPIC build! And what a sound!
Looking forward for you capturing this beast going maximum attack on the hillclimbs.Nice video,by the way.
Quelle est belle !!! 😍🤩 mais il y a encore du travail à faire concernant son bruit .On dirait un scooter.
Certo che esteticamente è proprio brutta!!!!Parere personale
wauw an absolute monster. looking great and sounds perfect. awesome video
Mi ricorda un bambino di 10 anni strafatto di steroidi
ok guess I gotta be the first to put it out there.. ITS UGLY UGLY UGLY !! maybe functional, but down right ugly ! those wheels are so ugly I would sacrifice speed just to not look so disgusting!
alfa is best car 👍 😘😍
DIY :3 nope
What happened ? Did he back his 4C into someone's garden fence?
He's made a beautiful little car into a pug ugly overblown fart of a car that looks like it should be in a Pixar animation film.
While I appreciate the engineering that went in this car, another apt title for this video could be "How to Make an Alpha 4C Extremely Ugly." o.0
the hood vents seem kinda silly, considering it's mid-engined...but I also am not an expert and I'm sure it serves some aerodynamic purpose lol.
basically, they just brought a 4C carbon fiber chassis and maybe the front bumper. I doubt they even kept the transmission.
Happy see Alfa back in racing. Alfa cars bolongs on the track
I understand the add on's, but it turned a piece of rolling art into something that looks like a kit car-ghetto blaster.
Buona sera a tutti , nn so se questa c4sia più potente , ma sono convinto che come cantava la 155 ,questa sicuramente nn e neanche un po' parente. 155 per sempre .........
Tipico Carabiniere italico con panza che se gli parte un bottone dalla camicia buca una gomma, braghe sotto i tacchi, e nun me scassat' u'cazz' che sto in pausa..
Too bad he didnt push the car.. Man i would have pushed that car to its limits :) Got damn! Great vid anyway!
Ese aleron trasero es un armatoste,afea el carro,parece llevar un remolque para bicicletas,un spoiler de iguales prestaciones puede ser desarrollado para quitarle esta monstruosidad a la cola del carro.
This version of the 4C may be fast , but God they made a mess of it. After those modifications it´s absolutely hideous!
This is an Alfa Romeo 4C after taking an entire pickup truck of steroids.
alfaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Ugliest exhaust ever. Should be illegal on such an Italian beauty.
Quei cerchi da 13" con le gomme a spalla alta danno un colpo d'occhio eccezionale !!!
Looks kinda weird with those tiny wheels. But overall it looks great.
si vabbeh...ma non è una 4c, ha solo la forma. Il resto non è rimasto nulla