History Primer 169: British Enfield MkII Documentary

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  • @rodwilson6648
    @rodwilson6648 Рік тому +17

    I think your theory on the absence of the safety Improvements on most of the Enfield Revolvers is correct. I own Enfields with Queensland, New South Wales, Victorian and North West Mounted Police provenance. None have the safety upgrades. I also own two British Navy marked Mark I's, one has the side safety and the other has the internal safety with S marking.
    BTW, your Mark II (serial A1853) is listed in "Arms & Accoutrements of the Mounted Police" as being issued to the North West Mounted Police.
    Also the fatal incident on HMS Flying Fish did indeed occur in the far east. It happened while the ship was undertaking survey duties around Melville Island just off the coast of Australia's Northern Territory, near today's city of Darwin.

  • @sproutpits
    @sproutpits Рік тому +79

    I suddenly need to see Othais use a tiny Ballistol can to open the lid on a large Ballistol can.

    • @tenofprime
      @tenofprime Рік тому +8

      I vote the Guinea pigs get dressed up as cans.

    • @jacobbearnson5874
      @jacobbearnson5874 Рік тому +6

      Othiais pulling a hank hill sounds like a good t-shirt idea

  • @Pcm979
    @Pcm979 Рік тому +31

    I first saw this gun carried by John Cleese's character in Silverado, where he was an immigrant from the UK who became an Old West Sheriff. They could've just given him an American gun and it would've been entirely logical that he simply bought one after he immigrated, but they went the extra mile and it gave him an implied history that I've always appreciated.

    • @tjanda2024
      @tjanda2024 Рік тому +11

      I believe Guns and Ammo magazines writer Gary James was the technical advisor and it was his personal Enfield in the movie

    • @Pcm979
      @Pcm979 Рік тому +5

      @@tjanda2024 Ooh, I didn't know that. Nice!

  • @jacobmccandles1767
    @jacobmccandles1767 Рік тому +80

    "Ballistol: it certainly beats peeing in it!"
    Now *there* is a great slogan...and possibly the best Gun-Tuber T-shirt since "Just put your thumb in it".

  • @Odin029
    @Odin029 Рік тому +69

    Oh, so now Othias is dropping primers in the middle of work. I'm just going to have to pretend I didn't see this notification and I certainly didn't type this comment... not until after work.

  • @eXDCopenhagen
    @eXDCopenhagen Рік тому +14

    Happened to be in the market for some CLP. Thanks to ballistol for supporting my favorite UA-cam channel, in turn I bought two bottles.

    • @harrymitts9669
      @harrymitts9669 Рік тому +1

      I am a former small atms repair guy for the US Army, and then as a gunsmith. I will be (or at least would have been) willing to die with the words, "CLP OR NOTHING," on my lips. I tried Ballistol... Now I have to agree that it is just as good, if not better. Easier to use, too!

  • @thinktwicespeakonce482
    @thinktwicespeakonce482 Рік тому +27

    These are such delightful pieces of history. The selective extraction is a fun but crazy idea.

  • @danmenes3143
    @danmenes3143 Рік тому +5

    So much for getting work done this afternoon.

  • @robviousobviously5757
    @robviousobviously5757 Рік тому +7

    hooray.. a primer

  • @billshepherd4331
    @billshepherd4331 Рік тому +5

    You need to try these against the Merwin & Hulbert & see how they compare!
    Keep up the Great work!

  • @johnkilcer
    @johnkilcer Рік тому +4

    And here i thought i was weird for carrying a 1915 webley. My hats off to him.

  • @jacobmccandles1767
    @jacobmccandles1767 Рік тому +3

    I was glad to see John Cleese packing one of these in the American western, "Silverado".

  • @jackgreenstalk777
    @jackgreenstalk777 Рік тому +2

    Your buddy Tom who open carries this is awesome. Quite the flex to have this as an every day carry and seriously carry it 😂👍 I'd hope he never has to use it, but if he does I'd wonder if it vs a more modern option would make the difference in making it out or not. But until then, he gets to be the crazy / wild / awesome guy who carries a 140ish year old gun

  • @brianwatkins2974
    @brianwatkins2974 Рік тому +9

    I would love to see Othais and Mae do a fun "time-warp" video to fit right in with all these "steam-punk" revolvers: "The Smith and Wesson TRR8 - The Ultimate Evolution of the Wheelgun". Straight-faced historical development, complete with Mae demonstrating moon-clips, attachable gadgets, magnum ammunition, and of course, a discussion of whether she would carry one in the trenches, if "war were declared". April 1st would be a good release date. 😁

    • @XaleManix
      @XaleManix Рік тому

      I need this IMMEDIATELY.

  • @stephenbond1990
    @stephenbond1990 Рік тому +5

    I was just rewatching the previous episode to refresh my memory, I'm looking forward to how things changed.

  • @caseymuzio7609
    @caseymuzio7609 Рік тому +2

    Realized I had a payment issue and corrected it glad to be supporting you again
    Also just bought balistol for the first time

  • @Gunsbeerfreedom87
    @Gunsbeerfreedom87 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the content homie

  • @joshkent4888
    @joshkent4888 Рік тому +3

    Woo hoo my home state of Queensland mentioned in a Primer Ep!

  • @richhardie6897
    @richhardie6897 Рік тому +4

    Man, I need this work day to end quickly. C%Rsenal talking about obscure revolvers? Let me get my cigar, my near beer with Balistol chaser, and my cold weather porch hoodie and lets go!

  • @slowhand1198
    @slowhand1198 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for going the distance with these weapons. The depth of your research and insights are more than a cut above.

  • @timothyedge6100
    @timothyedge6100 Рік тому +3

    Another wonderful episode on something I knew very little about!

  • @rob1129
    @rob1129 Рік тому +16

    Idk why late 1880's English revolvers that I'll probably never own intrigue me so much but they do

    • @tenofprime
      @tenofprime Рік тому +2

      Same here, they have a distinctive style to them. You can just look at this thing and know it is British.

  • @grantfitz2047
    @grantfitz2047 Рік тому +6

    Huzzah the beard brings many smart words.

  • @mattfleming86
    @mattfleming86 Рік тому +1

    I love that I caught this release!
    I had shjt to do, but not now!

  • @leppeppel
    @leppeppel Рік тому +3

    39:03 Hoo boy, it's been a long time since I had to bust out the kinematic equations so this mightn't be correct, but here's what I got.
    final velocity squared equals initial velocity squared plus double the acceleration due to gravity times distance
    Assuming a starting velocity of zero m/s and a drop of one meter (for simplicity), final velocity squared would be ~4.4m/s.
    Since the gun weighs 1.13kg, the momentum with which the hammer is struck will be 5.003 kg*m/s.
    Therefore, divide five by the time during which this impact is applied and that's the total force in Newtons... I think.

  • @smackarel7
    @smackarel7 Рік тому +1

    It is a piece with its own charms, with very little of anything else.

  • @stevenwestswanson9263
    @stevenwestswanson9263 Рік тому +5

    Amazing Video! These videos greatly help me keep my stress down when I writing papers for my classes.

  • @tjanda2024
    @tjanda2024 Рік тому +3

    Boy would I like to see you compare the Enfield to the “other” DA/SA, simultaneous eject, gate loader: Merwin & Hulbert.

  • @IRMacGuyver
    @IRMacGuyver Рік тому +1

    @11:47 sometimes a cut like that isn't functional to the final piece but rather to the parts holding during machining. They may have redone the tooling in order to eliminate needing those extra cuts.

  • @joelmclamore1898
    @joelmclamore1898 Рік тому

    Thats a lot of sparks coming out!😮

  • @tombogan03884
    @tombogan03884 Рік тому +2

    Mae is right. We have you guy's . I've learned more from you and Ian than I did from 50 years of books available.

  • @KlickyMonster
    @KlickyMonster Рік тому +2

    The fifth element is love.

  • @StepSherpa
    @StepSherpa Рік тому +3

    I was going to go to bed early, well so much for that.

    • @davitdavid7165
      @davitdavid7165 Рік тому +1

      Patience, brother. Your health matters more than any gun

    • @StepSherpa
      @StepSherpa Рік тому

      @@davitdavid7165 I decided that yes sleep is probably the better bet, thank you

  • @Operator8282
    @Operator8282 Рік тому +11

    Use Ballistol. It certainly beats peeing in it.
    You Totally sold me on a product I already use with the new slogan.

  • @jonrolfson1686
    @jonrolfson1686 Рік тому +3

    Seeing the ballistics of those shortish revolver cartridges with their 265 grain bullets at a nominal 700 feet per second (fps) jogged an old memory. Way back in the 1990s, a few IPSC shooters were experimenting with very heavy for caliber 260 grain .45 ACP loads at about that velocity. Their thought was that the heavy bullets easily made major while subjecting the shooter to relatively slow and light recoil, allowing quicker recovery and increasing speed. We argued about it, but never really came to any conclusion. Truth was that we were all fortyish or fiftyish chairborne warrior weekend shooters at the time, and we were not any challenge to faster reflexes and younger eyes of the twenty somethings. It does suggest that heavy for caliber .45 ACP loads might have merited a place in WWI’s large frame .45 ACP 1917 revolvers.

    • @MandoWookie
      @MandoWookie Рік тому +2

      That's also more or less the thought process behind the .50 GI. And also why it failed.

    • @GunFunZS
      @GunFunZS Рік тому

      A lot of that same logic comes in with the various subsonic projectiles that are coming into trend because of the new and very welcome ubiquity of suppressors.
      If you want more energy we'll keep in your bullet under a certain velocity there's only one way to get it.
      Cut his led to a lot of people shooting 147's or even 150 is at a 9 mm and saying they like the feel.
      Which is kind of funny because late '80s and early 90s answer to the supposed problems with a 9 mm ballistics were to throw more weight at it. So you saw all the cops and cop copiers shooting 147 grain hydrashoks. But 9 mm doesn't push those fast enough to expand as consistently as lighter bullets. So a lot of the 90s through early 2000s supposed cop quality bullets weren't as good as the 115 to 125 grain versions of the same product line.
      The 147s look good in gel unless you moved to the gel back a bit.
      It's easy to understand why 40 Smith & Wesson was popular at the time given the same bullet design technology they had enough speed and energy to reliably expand anywhere from 165 to 180 any day of the week and kind of any conceivable distance.

    • @MandoWookie
      @MandoWookie Рік тому

      @@GunFunZS I recall the big thing in the 80s and 90s for 9mm was actually low weight high velocity round like Pow'r'ball with light 70 to 90 grain projectiles because they expanded well in water tank tests and 'muzzle energy' calculations that were the standard at the time.
      Then the 40 s&w took over because of the perception of 9mm failure, and that the early standard weight 9mm not being able to perform adequately through barrier tests the FBI demanded( something the 40 still is superior for) .
      147 gr 9mm like Gold Dots and HST became a popular LE option because it works well in shorter barrel lengths becoming more common as either backups(G26 size subcompacts) or smaller standard issue( G19) and full size guns.
      124gr +p is still the 'best' but is also best in full size guns.
      147gr standard pressure still meets FBI spec, just doesn't exceed it in all metrics.

  • @johnfisk811
    @johnfisk811 Рік тому +1

    Thank you Othias. Pre decimalised British currency was spoken of as £X, Ys and Zd eg 11Pounds, 12 and 6. Written as £11/12/6. I will leave aside half crowns, guineas and farthings as that way lies madness. 1/2d pronounced ha’penny, 2d tuppence, 3d thruppence. Never mind tanner, bob, florin, quid etc…………. with 1,008 farthings to the Guinea, 4 Crowns to the pound and 2 to half a nicker. Now you know why it was decimalised.

  • @frankbrowning328
    @frankbrowning328 Рік тому +13

    That pistol looks truly huge in Mae's little hand

    • @NukaCola77
      @NukaCola77 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, same for me. Like I saw all the data on their size and weight early in the episode (okay, fine, they were in idio- erm. Freedom-measurements), but I did not get a proper view for the size in Othais' hands. But the guns were looking ridiculously big in Mae's hands.

  • @ketchman8299
    @ketchman8299 Рік тому

    I love these extended deep variant dives.

  • @brianfoster4434
    @brianfoster4434 Рік тому

    Thank you Mae and Othias. Another great episode.

  • @brianlojeck
    @brianlojeck Рік тому

    Balistol has also done wonders on my old trucks locks, doors, and other body parts

  • @sportsman48
    @sportsman48 Рік тому +1

    Added a can of ballistol to my cart on order. Good stuff and an extra can is nice to ha e as they support the channel

  • @bigsiege1848
    @bigsiege1848 Рік тому +1

    E = mgh
    E = (1.13 kg) * 9.81 * (0.91 m)
    E = 10 joules (7.4 pound force)

  • @timblack6422
    @timblack6422 Рік тому

    So cool when these drop!!

  • @chpet1655
    @chpet1655 Рік тому +1

    The 5th Element Rises with The Hand !
    Now if that doesn’t sound ominous then I dunno what is

  • @AbstractPragmatism
    @AbstractPragmatism Рік тому +3

    If I ever cleaned my guns, Ballistol™ would be my cleaner/oil of choice!

    • @theJellyjoker
      @theJellyjoker Рік тому

      I use Ballistol on my antiques and CLP on my modern stuff

  • @jorgechalub8930
    @jorgechalub8930 Рік тому +2

    Muy bueno tu vídeo saludos desde Argentina

  • @charlesmarino2027
    @charlesmarino2027 Рік тому +2

    Mark it as watched by liking it.

  • @rhysfranklin1119
    @rhysfranklin1119 Рік тому +2

    Commenting for engagement!

  • @IRMacGuyver
    @IRMacGuyver Рік тому

    I would love to hear a first hand story about someone that used the mkI in a way that required hand to hand combat and getting in enough of a scuffle that the cylinder rotated to an empty chamber unexpectedly. Usually when they make changes it's only because someone actually experienced that problem in the field.

  • @DAKOTA56777
    @DAKOTA56777 26 днів тому

    Would be interesting to see the Merwin revolvers on this to see if they work any better with the slide forward ejection.

  • @robertbuckley6514
    @robertbuckley6514 21 день тому

    Another excellent presentation. I just wonder who was blamed for the short comings on the Mark I and the improved Mark II version.

  • @Tunkkis
    @Tunkkis Рік тому

    Oh, the bore snakes are a Ballistol product? Neat!

  • @ReptilianLepton
    @ReptilianLepton Рік тому +3

    The Ballistol sponsorship is genius because it is also irresistable comment-section engagement-bait for people who instead swear by CLP or Rem Oil or whatever.

    • @SonOfTheDawn515
      @SonOfTheDawn515 Рік тому +1

      I hate CLP. Remoil is okay in a pinch, but I've used Clenzoil for years. I haven't seen ballistol in any store that I can remember but if it's priced okay I wouldn't be opposed to getting some.

  • @TerryDowne
    @TerryDowne Рік тому +4

    Did I hear you say "Fifth Element?" Does that mean that Mae will wear a costume consisting of horizontal bandages and go around saying "Multipass"?

  • @baird329
    @baird329 Рік тому +2

    Peeing in it. Ha, I knew an old Korean war vet that said that's how they cooled down their weapons when they were fighting the Chinese and North Koreans. Funny things you remember watching this channel.

    • @hairy_putin
      @hairy_putin Рік тому +1

      I've also heard that's how you got your M1 unfrozen if you didn't bring it into your fart sack with you in the middle of a Korean winter.

  • @adamsmith9032
    @adamsmith9032 Рік тому

    this is such a cool gun. it is the British version of the Merwin Hulbert revolver. i honestly think this gun was better though. I'm actually a little surprised they didn't make it a true top break but hey, it's still a neat gun

  • @boatman3806
    @boatman3806 Рік тому

    this is a fine video. one day i would appreciate to see a primer on the mauser zig zag revolver.

  • @kregchrist2826
    @kregchrist2826 Рік тому +1

    most excellent

  • @carlklein3346
    @carlklein3346 Рік тому +1

    There are valid reasons for the Lancaster pistol.

  • @HereticalKitsune
    @HereticalKitsune Рік тому +1

    Dunno, but I really like this revolver, it looks so clean, the blueing is near perfect. There is something about them. But I also like guns that show some wear and tear, some history.

  • @jonkrier
    @jonkrier Рік тому +1

    Commment for the algorithm, and because UA-cam keeps hiding C&Rsenal from me. I've been a subscriber and supporter for years UA-cam, I still want to see the new public releases.

  • @JD-tn5lz
    @JD-tn5lz Рік тому +9

    BEST ENDORSEMENT EVER!
    ...certainly beats peeing in it
    😁

  • @51WCDodge
    @51WCDodge Рік тому

    One reson for all the various hammer blocks. What manufacturing techniques were available at the time and the economy of manufactuer.

  • @itatane
    @itatane Рік тому +2

    "We're not really a Great War show anymore..." Sad 1911 noises. Oh well, hopefully the Gahendra behind you comes out in an episode Soon™.

  • @presidentmerkinmuffley6769
    @presidentmerkinmuffley6769 Рік тому +4

    3 PM?? What exactly is this madness?

  • @thisISaPENn
    @thisISaPENn Рік тому

    Tuning in for the animation, ends up watching whole episode again. Ops

  • @ModalCuchulainn
    @ModalCuchulainn Рік тому +2

    Man, I am engaging with this content so hard right now. My 15 yr old is making fun of me for listening to the Maeversation out loud lol.

  • @ColburnFreml
    @ColburnFreml Рік тому

    Is double action that useful with black powder? My experience with black powder has been with single shot rifles and I get so much smoke that I think could cock a single action in time for the smoke to clear for a second shot. Are revolvers less smoky because of smaller powder charges?

  • @jonathanhudak2059
    @jonathanhudak2059 Рік тому

    What's better than an Enfield Mk.1 interchangeable? Why a Mk.2, well maybe except for those sights, good Lord! Still such a cool and interesting piece, thanks you guys keep up the great work 👍

  • @Khanclansith
    @Khanclansith Рік тому +1

    Of course Tom is crazy, he hangs out with you

  • @SlavicCelery
    @SlavicCelery Рік тому +3

    Straight up bought some ballistol just because they sponsored the show.

    • @GunFunZS
      @GunFunZS Рік тому

      I've never seen any in a store.

    • @SlavicCelery
      @SlavicCelery Рік тому

      @@GunFunZS It pops up in the big box stores around here from time to time. Bass Pro/Cabela's (same company now).
      I ended up with some through Midway USA on another order.

  • @charlesashworth6805
    @charlesashworth6805 Рік тому +1

    I'll take the no 3 hands down

  • @joshuamarvin7400
    @joshuamarvin7400 5 місяців тому

    I'm kinda surprised that with that many major design flaws and safety issues, that they didn't just scrap the entire design and instead let them fix it.

  • @coldandaloof7166
    @coldandaloof7166 Рік тому

    I personally would take either the Swiss or the Tranter over one of these. As fast as some people are with a SAA I would rather have one of those and practice more than that sticky case ridiculousness.

  • @jd9119
    @jd9119 Рік тому +2

    I've always felt using soap and warm water worked the best in cleaning black powder guns. Then you use oil afterwards to lubricate and protect.

  • @ethanphillips8637
    @ethanphillips8637 Рік тому

    What about the 1889 colt navy, 1892 colt army models?

  • @bBlaF
    @bBlaF Рік тому +1

    Cost difference of 6 and 8 from the first and 12 and 4 from the second. So roughly x3 and x6 up from the reported 2 and 6 savings. Weird that they went with such a small number instead.

    • @bBlaF
      @bBlaF Рік тому +1

      Anyone interested in how British money was counted, here's your video. Even if you don't think you're interested, it's worth a look.
      ua-cam.com/video/R2paSGQRwvo/v-deo.html

  • @julianshepherd2038
    @julianshepherd2038 Рік тому +9

    I'm British so I like the British ones but it is hard standing to attention for 47 minutes.

    • @MandoWookie
      @MandoWookie Рік тому

      Thank God it wasn't a 4 hour episode or you would need to seek medical attention.

  • @62jape
    @62jape Рік тому +2

    Oh so this is the p320 of revolvers.

  • @darrenharvey6084
    @darrenharvey6084 Рік тому +2

    Australia federated on 01/01/1901 not 1903

  • @knate44
    @knate44 Рік тому +1

    Wait ballistic is actually sponsoring you? That’s rad as hell

  • @alexeysaphonov232
    @alexeysaphonov232 Рік тому +1

    I couldn't remember if there was a story of Galand 1870? It is quite a similar system.

    • @MandoWookie
      @MandoWookie Рік тому +1

      Similar concept, very different execution. Also I believe in the previous Primer he said it was a much weaker system.

  • @SagebrushRebel
    @SagebrushRebel Рік тому

    Do you need to load it through the loading gate, why not load it when it's opened up?

  • @Ben_not_10
    @Ben_not_10 Рік тому +1

    Ok so now I need to go scour Charleston SC to find the one man of culture

  • @xXGatekeeper49Xx
    @xXGatekeeper49Xx Рік тому +2

    Is it just me or does the Enfield pattern revolver have an extremely short hammer throw?

  • @robertweber3428
    @robertweber3428 Рік тому

    The cracking of the fingers at ~2:26 made me cringe. Not everyone will react this way, but something that you may want to try to avoid. Love the episodes!

  • @jamespalmer7629
    @jamespalmer7629 Рік тому +2

    Something I have noticed over the years is that anything mechanical that is British, is completely fiddley and unreliable. I think the reason is that they are stuck on tiny islands and get bored, so they purposely build stuff that needs constant tinkering. Off the top of my head, Triumph motorcycles and MG cars come to mind

  • @rootbeerpoptart
    @rootbeerpoptart Рік тому +3

    To die of wet boots 30 years before WWI. Poor fella

  • @taitonaito
    @taitonaito 8 місяців тому

    The net effect of this whole video on me was making me want to acquire and carry a No.3 Russian

  • @johnjunge6989
    @johnjunge6989 Рік тому +1

    Othias, do you know when the tee shirts will ship?
    This looks overbuilt and not pleasing to the eye! Not including being dangerous!
    Do pistols in this era have no testing and requirements? Good stuff!

  • @jonathanferguson1211
    @jonathanferguson1211 Рік тому +3

    Not our finest hour.

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 Рік тому +3

      It certainly could have been much worse. Under fighting conditions it would likely give you 6 reliable shots (almost) every time. It certainly beats harsh words and a wagging finger.

    • @tenofprime
      @tenofprime Рік тому

      @@mattfleming86 6 shots then you get a good blunt instrument.

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Рік тому

      @@mattfleming86 Of course - speed reloads simply weren't a thing. It's much like the SA80 situation - objectively not the best design, but (once fixed!) perfectly serviceable. I was speaking in firearms enthusiast/ideal design terms rather than the in-context 'user' experience (mind you, getting shot through the head by your own pistol is definitely a negative!).

  • @Sman7290
    @Sman7290 Рік тому +1

    Poor Rob. He's got to be just losing his s**t.

  • @alexhemsath6235
    @alexhemsath6235 Рік тому

    I am mildly surprised to find that this weighs 2.5 pounds.

  • @zetahoven4556
    @zetahoven4556 Рік тому +2

    Inexplicably, this gun and the Reichsrevolver appear in a Call of Duty World War 2 game.

    • @tenofprime
      @tenofprime Рік тому

      Now I have the amusing image in my head of the worst equipped units of the British and German armies being glad to have a fair fight at last.

    • @ShaunhanM
      @ShaunhanM Рік тому

      Well they both make good clubs

    • @liammeech3702
      @liammeech3702 11 місяців тому

      CoD WWII's Enfield No.2 is not the same as this (confusingly)

  • @Ihasanart
    @Ihasanart Рік тому +1

    "Same evolution 3 times in history"
    It's confirmed, revolvers are crabs.

  • @Voelund
    @Voelund Рік тому

    These shows start to become esoteric. I almost fear Othias' "War was declared" to become some sort of eschatological truth. 😁
    Oh, I use Ballistol to soften my moustache wax. Work wonders AND give a lovely smell.

  • @carlcarlton764
    @carlcarlton764 Рік тому

    Dear Santa, all I want for Christmas is ... not another episode about some old revolver if only to upset Bojan. 😉
    Jokes aside, I get that developmental history matters and you work with what you get when you get it but when will we something different? Like the Remington rifle line that culminated in the 1895 Lee Navy.

  • @merlinwizard1000
    @merlinwizard1000 Рік тому +2

    3rd, 13 December 2022

  • @JosipRadnik1
    @JosipRadnik1 Рік тому

    What was this conversation aboot?

  • @rwm4738
    @rwm4738 Рік тому

    Only the Brits would devolve to a heeled, outside lubed bullet in 1882.