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  • @akumu2625
    @akumu2625 9 місяців тому +279

    I love how a simple _mom_ word make grumpy frog become her most happiest moment in life

  • @featherless2524
    @featherless2524 9 місяців тому +361

    Maybe Sanae would feel more comfortable calling Kanockers “Dad.”

    • @Lemuel928
      @Lemuel928 9 місяців тому +37

      (At least she owns the dad tux office suit.)

    • @newturtle3
      @newturtle3 9 місяців тому +54

      Kaknockers 💀💀💀

    • @ImNotFunny541
      @ImNotFunny541 6 місяців тому +15

      Kanockers is wild dude 💀

    • @Sansnessundertale
      @Sansnessundertale 27 днів тому

      @@newturtle3fr🎉🎉🎉😂😂

    • @Sansnessundertale
      @Sansnessundertale 27 днів тому

      Kano let’s💀💀

  • @shadowblue7074
    @shadowblue7074 9 місяців тому +192

    Damn, Suwako was getting roasted so hard.

  • @fcantil
    @fcantil 9 місяців тому +82

    The split-second image of Kanako giving the viewer a thumbs up is sending me 😂

  • @toumaaizen556
    @toumaaizen556 9 місяців тому +299

    Canon: Suwako is Sanae's ancestor. Naturally, after living so long and being raised by her, Sanae would be compelled to call her mom.

    • @DarkSymphony777
      @DarkSymphony777 9 місяців тому +49

      Which means
      At one point or another, suwako did the dirty with someone

    • @masterhand9305
      @masterhand9305 9 місяців тому +47

      ​@DarkSymphony777 it's possible, but its also possible Suwako had descendents like a Greek god or Titan. Aphrodite's...unique, way of being born comes to mind.

    • @DarkSymphony777
      @DarkSymphony777 9 місяців тому +39

      @@masterhand9305 ......true
      But I like my idea better because now suwako can go drunk with junko in the mom club

    • @yokai1235
      @yokai1235 9 місяців тому +16

      you mean grandma

    • @toumaaizen556
      @toumaaizen556 9 місяців тому +15

      @@yokai1235Shh. Don't let her hear you say that.

  • @MedsieLovr
    @MedsieLovr 9 місяців тому +118

    Kanako the virgin goddess vs Suwako the matriarch of a nation

  • @yachilevchanie5202
    @yachilevchanie5202 9 місяців тому +118

    Kanako= in the end, she's still our child
    Suwako= im not your wife!
    This part made me laugh XD

  • @Space_Suwako_XD
    @Space_Suwako_XD 9 місяців тому +197

    Suwako likes to be called mom :D
    Kanako feels a little envious.
    Reimu couldn't do much against the news Aya brought out 🐦‍⬛

    • @danteshi
      @danteshi 9 місяців тому +12

      Reimu.. you should known better

    • @kristianschuff1723
      @kristianschuff1723 5 місяців тому +4

      Youkai mountain found itself being obliterated later day by a very angry Reimu

  • @ItsIdy
    @ItsIdy 9 місяців тому +322

    Tsukasa is just sitting out of frame not talking the entire episode 0:01

  • @Pokeysanic
    @Pokeysanic 9 місяців тому +76

    1:47 Kanako giving Thumbs reminds me of Komachi, ah Compact, you have such good sense of humor 😊

  • @krakart8181
    @krakart8181 9 місяців тому +37

    Kanako was bouta cry bruh 😭

  • @barricadedpurifier
    @barricadedpurifier 9 місяців тому +155

    Suwa sounds like one of those Robocalls telling me I owe the IRS a bajillion dollars and that I have to pay those off using gift card codes that I must send to some undisclosed locations in India or Pakistan.

    • @Compact_Youmu
      @Compact_Youmu  9 місяців тому +73

      Oh, the phone calls I get every hour about life insurance. I'm so happy to know that the entire country of India is so concerned for my health.

    • @nekrosstv2432
      @nekrosstv2432 9 місяців тому +6

      @@Compact_Youmu in my case the voice of Suwako sounds like a frog,so thats acurrate

    • @blackgod1233
      @blackgod1233 8 місяців тому

      also thanks for putting me in a video you upturned cabbage

    • @blackgod1233
      @blackgod1233 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Compact_Youmualso I am British

    • @blackgod1233
      @blackgod1233 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Compact_Youmuhahaha youmu is so funny

  • @slycat9449
    @slycat9449 8 місяців тому +40

    Starting at 2:11 it feels like it turns into actual touhou dialogue. Like that feels 1000% like how Sanae would act in an official Doujin. Also Suwako getting more and more happy each time it happens is adorable!

  • @RMetro0
    @RMetro0 9 місяців тому +55

    kanako when: 👍

  • @elvismartinez9067
    @elvismartinez9067 9 місяців тому +16

    Suwako is so happy to be called mom and Kanako took "EMOTIONAL DAMAGE"!

  • @mangoinnmclovin
    @mangoinnmclovin 9 місяців тому +48

    Damn, Sanae feeling such familiar affection to Suwa to the point of calling her mom by error is actually really wholesome. It is worth to notice Suwa takes more care and is commonly more worried for Sanae than Kanako, like an actual mother would

  • @fumothfan9
    @fumothfan9 8 місяців тому +20

    2:41 the moment suwako won the convo with a simple error in judgement from Sanae

  • @s.1ibraardillah173
    @s.1ibraardillah173 9 місяців тому +52

    Apart from stealing books, it turns out Fetis Marisa has more of a plot twist 😅

  • @suwakomoriya5145
    @suwakomoriya5145 9 місяців тому +28

    Reimu will not let that slide

  • @MrMulaVeia
    @MrMulaVeia 9 місяців тому +32

    Loved the way the story turned! I was thinking that Suwako would continue to be bullied throughout the episode

  • @yokai1235
    @yokai1235 9 місяців тому +47

    you know the most ironic of all this is suwako is the only one of the three that is both canonically not a virgin had married someone and gave birth and also look like 12 years old

    • @newturtle3
      @newturtle3 9 місяців тому +15

      Not sure about the first 2 since gods have abilites to make people out of random stuff.
      Look at how keiki was made lol

    • @xS1D3SW1P3x
      @xS1D3SW1P3x 8 місяців тому +9

      I think it went more like Suwako raised a dying orphan child and blessed them with her blood healing them, making them a descendant of Moriya

    • @di3727
      @di3727 6 місяців тому +8

      ​@@xS1D3SW1P3x nope, Suwako had a human husband, and the tragedy of that mortality kinda depressed her enough to let Kanako take part of the Shrine while she languished for a bit. But Sanae being in her life gave her some hope that this has been worth the previous pain. It's part and parcel of being a long living entity, you lose your partners eventually, lose yourself a little, come back to find out descendants, try to build a life again, the usual.

    • @hesiod_delta9209
      @hesiod_delta9209 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@di3727I suspect she literally shrank into her present form during that period. Sad frog....

    • @di3727
      @di3727 6 місяців тому +5

      @@hesiod_delta9209 nah, she has always been like that, I'm literally the human husband.

  • @EffectP7B
    @EffectP7B 9 місяців тому +19

    2:46 I always like those random frames

  • @Bobbies1
    @Bobbies1 9 місяців тому +25

    Nice one Kanako, she has the same tounge as komachi

  • @DucTú5406
    @DucTú5406 9 місяців тому +47

    Kanako definitely deserved drum sounds effect at 2:07

  • @ninoseyasunori
    @ninoseyasunori 9 місяців тому +19

    一瞬だけポーズをとる神奈子様
    Kanako poses for just a moment

  • @alexandertugolukov
    @alexandertugolukov 9 місяців тому +25

    That slips when Sanae calls Suwako a mom, not even Kanako.

  • @Pudding404
    @Pudding404 8 місяців тому +38

    *"I'm not your wife."*
    Literally like Chowder and Panini, lol.

  • @unclet9825
    @unclet9825 9 місяців тому +19

    Suwako and Sanae got that mother daughter relationship going on, while Yasaka has been relegated to that Cool Aunt Role- She seems quite envious of that fact!

  • @Ka49999s
    @Ka49999s 9 місяців тому +18

    *_3:36_*_ Fue tal la sorpresa que hasta el adorno con forma de rana quedó con la boca abierta. XD_

  • @NeoKesha
    @NeoKesha 9 місяців тому +14

    Happy Suwako best Suwako

  • @simpsitandmore2908
    @simpsitandmore2908 9 місяців тому +16

    *Meanwhile*
    Reimu: thanks for helping breaking my hot tub mom- I mean Yukari....
    Yukari: Mom? You know you can also call me mommy if you want, or even your older sister.
    Reimu: 💀
    Nice animatic btw, never knew a situation like this can be so damn funny.

    • @newturtle3
      @newturtle3 9 місяців тому +1

      Reimu: okay....grandmother

  • @freddyspeed7777
    @freddyspeed7777 8 місяців тому +4

    I love the content of this channel it always makes me laugh, and thank you very much for the Spanish translation

  • @oscara1573
    @oscara1573 9 місяців тому +7

    suwako sounds like marge simpson lol 0:30
    probably one of my favorites from this channel

  • @funkowop3573
    @funkowop3573 9 місяців тому +8

    I like how you made Sanae's froggy hair ornament yell too, lol

  • @compactmoltenhot
    @compactmoltenhot 9 місяців тому +30

    Marisa stealing everybody’s clothes is something that would happen in canon

    • @Lemuel928
      @Lemuel928 9 місяців тому +16

      So Alice’s clothes was the start of all incidents!?!

    • @compactmoltenhot
      @compactmoltenhot 9 місяців тому +11

      @@Lemuel928”Take your clothes off and get in here!”

  • @snicka1886
    @snicka1886 9 місяців тому +10

    Nobody:
    Kanako:👍

  • @MMaDness21
    @MMaDness21 9 місяців тому +6

    Is anyone else but me noticing that they live in a strangely modern house?

  • @robertjoseph702
    @robertjoseph702 9 місяців тому +35

    1:58 suwako gotta get there get back
    2:01: lier
    2:04: fight back bruh
    2:22: you gotta get a comeback bruh
    2:32: facts is crazy
    2:35: dang tragic and not hit puberty
    2:45: :0
    4:19: stop da cap

  • @Thangkazi
    @Thangkazi 8 місяців тому +2

    When Sanae trying to call Yasaka as mom, her voice is sound like Candace from Phinias and Ferb cartoon movie

  • @JustaOrdinaryRock
    @JustaOrdinaryRock 9 місяців тому +11

    When 2hus roast each other: 👍

  • @snicka1886
    @snicka1886 8 місяців тому +3

    Kanako sounds absolutely heartbroken about Sanae not calling her mom.

  • @Kirmania
    @Kirmania 9 місяців тому +12

    4:21 I feel sort of bad for Reimu :( But at least the other gurls had fun (especially Marisa). Poor Sanae was in a situation like when someone calls their teacher mom. Nice vid by the way! Can't wait for the next one!

  • @arisaka233
    @arisaka233 8 місяців тому +1

    please never lose your artstyle, nor the voices, they are a perfect combination, i love your videos!

  • @kirbydirby2003
    @kirbydirby2003 7 місяців тому +3

    Suwako didn't need to get roasted like that

  • @protissarvi
    @protissarvi 9 місяців тому +5

    I watched like 3 vids and this is already one of my favorites channel
    I love the histories you do dude, you also got a really good looking art style
    I'll make sure to all your vids, you do a really amazing job!! :D

  • @jorgegracia9513
    @jorgegracia9513 21 день тому

    Such a sweet interaction 🫶🏼

  • @lampshadeninja5052
    @lampshadeninja5052 9 місяців тому +18

    Dang, Reimu’s hot tub fell apart? That’s rather… misfortunate. Here’s hoping the poor Miko can get a win… but it’s Reimu, sooo
    Either way this was a fun one. Love the Moriya Shrine trio, I always enjoy it when they’re portrayed more domestically, even though there’s 2(.5) goddesses there.
    (Also Suwako’s reactions to being called mom were adorable! Her smile’s precious)

  • @lpfan4491
    @lpfan4491 9 місяців тому +8

    Mom Suwako and Dad Kanako, always adorable together and with Sanae.

  • @TouhouEXPolaros
    @TouhouEXPolaros 9 місяців тому +5

    More like grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand Mom

  • @bc9402
    @bc9402 9 місяців тому +9

    Suwako: You need to respect that Vow of chastity.
    Suwako remind me again who is Sanae ancestor? I’m just saying.
    *Don’t curse me please.*

    • @Just_Rika3143
      @Just_Rika3143 4 місяці тому +1

      How many "grand" next to the word "grandma" should i say to be fitting for her

    • @bc9402
      @bc9402 4 місяці тому

      We have no idea. Distant ancestor could mean anything from hundreds of years to maybe 5 generations away.
      That does make me curious though, if Suwako had another kid, what would that make them in relation to Sanae? A distant great cousin?
      Family trees get very weird and awkward when immortals and gods are involved.

    • @Just_Rika3143
      @Just_Rika3143 4 місяці тому

      @@bc9402 insanaety

  • @MapletreePaper
    @MapletreePaper 9 місяців тому +10

    Sanae won't admit it, but the real reason she can't call Kanako "Mom" is because she doesn't have the mom energy. 😎

    • @GrimKage07
      @GrimKage07 9 місяців тому +8

      She may look like a Mom, but she carries the scent of an aunt whose been through two divorces.

    • @fumothfan9
      @fumothfan9 9 місяців тому +6

      ​@@GrimKage07i wanna say a 40 year old cool aunt / auntie who is upper management positions in an office energy

  • @nguyenlinhhoabinh
    @nguyenlinhhoabinh 8 місяців тому +1

    I like how yasaka just thumbs up

  • @Icantthinkofaname-cp2zw
    @Icantthinkofaname-cp2zw 7 місяців тому +3

    Nah shes cooking roasts

  • @Oscurio-ek2wz
    @Oscurio-ek2wz 2 місяці тому

    LMAOO didn't notice Reimu with the newspaper at the end

  • @AlbertoUchiha98
    @AlbertoUchiha98 9 місяців тому +2

    1:47 I don't know why my mind played Peppino's pose sound effect of Pizza Tower, maybe I've seen a lot meme.

  • @GrimKage07
    @GrimKage07 9 місяців тому

    I just keep hearing the "OK!" DK voice whenever Kanako does the thumbs up.

  • @randommaster06
    @randommaster06 8 місяців тому

    I like the dynamic of each of them seeing their relationship in a different way.

  • @vinzer72frie
    @vinzer72frie 27 днів тому

    She wasn't blessed with her own mountain of faith😭💀

  • @Valdishthesecond
    @Valdishthesecond 8 місяців тому +3

    Meanwhile Yukari is crying herself to sleep because Reimu will never say it to her.

    • @fumothfan9
      @fumothfan9 8 місяців тому +1

      And okina tries too lol
      Being yukari is suffering

    • @ИванЛесуков
      @ИванЛесуков 8 місяців тому +1

      Well. Touhou 8 madness she said herself that she doesn't care about Reimu

    • @Valdishthesecond
      @Valdishthesecond 8 місяців тому

      @@ИванЛесуков of course, and you believed something yukari said.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 8 місяців тому

      ​@@ИванЛесуковWhich is exactly why she constantly hovers around the shrine and formally employs Reimu for some of the incident solving.(Mind you, fixing what is broke is kind of Reimu's duty? I'm fairy sure there is no actual requirement to pay her jack, even if Reimu talks that way in TH8.)

  • @danielmayobre7702
    @danielmayobre7702 9 місяців тому +2

    Kanako Yasaka the goddess with a body of a developed thirty year-old woman, Sanae Kochiya a demigoddess with a body of a busty teenybopper and Suwako Moriya a goddess with a body of a prepubescent twelve year-old.
    Also, has anyone noticed Tsukasa Kudamaki was with them for one frame at 0:01? She didn't have a line or the camera didn't showed her up close. Possibly she played a minor role here as the silent waitress and left the scene immediately.

  • @Consd93
    @Consd93 9 місяців тому +4

    Flandre call sakuya mom or flandre call marisa sister

    • @fumothfan9
      @fumothfan9 9 місяців тому

      She'd probably be lowkey flattered but annoyed
      Unless remilia said it too

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 8 місяців тому +3

      Marisa:"You are very pretty today, mom."
      Sakuya:"I know we are friends, Marisa, but this is very over the line."
      Marisa:"But she called me sister and you are her mom, so that means..."
      Sakuya:"I'm not lady Flandoor's mom!"

    • @toumaaizen556
      @toumaaizen556 8 місяців тому

      @@lpfan4491 Sakuya: I'm Remilia's mom!

    • @Consd93
      @Consd93 8 місяців тому

      @@toumaaizen556 flandre:🥲

    • @toumaaizen556
      @toumaaizen556 8 місяців тому

      @@Consd93 And Flan's too if Meiling is too busy.

  • @DanRanYakumo
    @DanRanYakumo 9 місяців тому +3

    1
    0:19
    =0
    Que isso Marisa?!?!
    2
    1:05
    Isso mesmo Sueako, viva a castidade
    3
    1:07
    -_-
    Olha.... se a Kanako permitiu.... mas né.... caso a Sanae namore, ela não terá tempo para deveres como Sacerdotisa
    4
    1:29
    Realmente, viva a vergonha, sem se expor o corpo ao público
    5
    1:45
    =/
    Pobre Suwako
    Com tanto tempo de vida e tem esse nível de vergonha, coitada.
    6
    3:21
    Ohn 💕
    Suwako ficou feliz por ter sido chamada de mãe, que fofo 💕
    7
    4:19
    AYAAAA!!!!!
    >=/

  • @JunkoLuna
    @JunkoLuna 8 місяців тому +1

    Technically isnt Suwako grandma

  • @marisakirisame867
    @marisakirisame867 8 місяців тому

    Ah yes after the entire days of stressful jobs, this thing really relieved my stress

  • @JoseAyala-ru5fs
    @JoseAyala-ru5fs 9 місяців тому +2

    Todos sabemos que Suwako es muy maternal con Sanae

  • @birisi916
    @birisi916 9 місяців тому +1

    Best gensokyo interpretation animations

  • @averageexistenceenjoyer3950
    @averageexistenceenjoyer3950 9 місяців тому +13

    4:04 you mean ancestor?

    • @Compact_Youmu
      @Compact_Youmu  9 місяців тому +19

      Dang, you're right. I used the wrong word. That's what happens when you need to write these scripts fast. But at this point, I can only fix the subtitles.

    • @fumothfan9
      @fumothfan9 9 місяців тому +3

      No it fits since she kept jumbling her words around
      Also counts as a lowkey insult since suwako is smaller and looks younger than sanae

    • @bensoncheung2801
      @bensoncheung2801 9 місяців тому +1

      👋👋👋

  • @jafodesrrhinuaaanndez1521
    @jafodesrrhinuaaanndez1521 9 місяців тому +2

    If not Mom, then just call Kanako your Dad. :)

  • @misterhoudi2824
    @misterhoudi2824 9 місяців тому +1

    Cute as per usual

  • @AkaneV3TrollgeXZ
    @AkaneV3TrollgeXZ 5 місяців тому +1

    1:24 = 2:06 / Kanako Yasaka Did Suwako Dirty💀💀💀

  • @LancerinCompany
    @LancerinCompany 9 місяців тому +12

    Suwako has no room to talk about chasity
    One of the few characters with a cannon body count

    • @fumothfan9
      @fumothfan9 9 місяців тому +4

      I still have it as my head cannon that suwako made her descendants either from the mud (like jesus) or she imbued some random kids with her own god powers and they by power became her kids.

    • @Xo-3130
      @Xo-3130 9 місяців тому +4

      Several Shinto gods are born from anything from discarded body parts to jewels. In fact, the later is where Amaterasu's sons came from.

    • @LancerinCompany
      @LancerinCompany 9 місяців тому

      @@Xo-3130 yes but since Sanae has a human mom and dad there had to be seggs at some point

    • @akiradkcn
      @akiradkcn 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@Xo-3130yes, but they still can have kids the regular way

    • @fumothfan9
      @fumothfan9 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@akiradkcnthey're goddesses it's beneath them

  • @TFaithfulFamily2
    @TFaithfulFamily2 4 місяці тому

    4:18 I'm not your wife ending makes me laugh so much XD

  • @jhoanleco3054
    @jhoanleco3054 9 місяців тому +1

    This video is actually funny

  • @pythonsotl
    @pythonsotl 9 місяців тому +2

    Let's go

  • @akiradkcn
    @akiradkcn 9 місяців тому +1

    Suwako liked that

  • @ゴゴゴ-t4e
    @ゴゴゴ-t4e Місяць тому +1

    Two mothers?

  • @bigcheese5052
    @bigcheese5052 5 місяців тому

    2:31 DAMN.

  • @Utsuho_reiuji11
    @Utsuho_reiuji11 9 місяців тому +1

    you made me jealous i want to call my master satori mom now 😭

  • @nguyenlinhhoabinh
    @nguyenlinhhoabinh 8 місяців тому

    I luv the ending

  • @NDuhMood
    @NDuhMood 6 місяців тому +1

    KanaKO'D 🤘😎

  • @KoiFishShorts
    @KoiFishShorts 9 місяців тому +10

    But Suwako my mommy- *Get FBI’ed*

  • @FrogGuyManThingIt
    @FrogGuyManThingIt 9 місяців тому +2

    I always headcanon that Sanae has two moms

  • @noice-x7u
    @noice-x7u 3 місяці тому

    Now I want to see a video of Sanae calling Kanako Dad.

  • @future8772
    @future8772 9 місяців тому

    it almost sounded like a ytp at the end

  • @kerob-sx6kx
    @kerob-sx6kx 9 місяців тому +1

    thats ok, kanako will always be my mommy

  • @jackmehoff9957
    @jackmehoff9957 9 місяців тому

    I love kanakos voice

  • @onix182
    @onix182 4 місяці тому

    2:42 WE NEED A TF2 CRITICAL HIT SOUND EFECT HERE PRONTO 🩵

    • @onix182
      @onix182 4 місяці тому

      3:31 and here too!!🩵

  • @marcar9marcar972
    @marcar9marcar972 9 місяців тому

    I like this one

  • @Ogrimen
    @Ogrimen Місяць тому

    Fun fact: Suwako is the goddess in Every touhou history

  • @Nothing-qu1gd
    @Nothing-qu1gd 29 днів тому

    2:41 is when it happens by the way... I am sorry.

  • @sharencamangyan1664
    @sharencamangyan1664 9 місяців тому

    Kanako, did a thumbs-up like 3 times on the whole video
    (correct me if I'm wrong)
    Also poor Tsukasa, she did not
    even have the time to talk😢

  • @Nicius-
    @Nicius- 9 місяців тому

    I love this relation, because i laugh a lot.

  • @JVBABAKA27
    @JVBABAKA27 8 місяців тому

    Man... I laughed more than I had to lmao

  • @adlaza_alfasa
    @adlaza_alfasa 7 місяців тому

    remembers of analog horror...

  • @elvismartinez9067
    @elvismartinez9067 9 місяців тому +4

    Why is Tsukasa eating pancakes with them?

    • @finalsurvivor1
      @finalsurvivor1 9 місяців тому +10

      Tsukasa just decided she lives in the Moriya Shrine now during Touhou 19. Sanae can't get her to leave so they now have their own con artist.

    • @fumothfan9
      @fumothfan9 9 місяців тому +3

      ​​@@finalsurvivor1reimu has several cats 2 dogs a small pocket princess a space jester a turtle and a homeless beggar.
      Marisa has snake and recently a dog
      Remilia has probably several exotic pets including a cupacabra

    • @oscara1573
      @oscara1573 8 місяців тому

      Moriya shrine marketing towards the furrys

  • @ShizuKanazawa
    @ShizuKanazawa 9 місяців тому

    Poor Kanako

  • @ShaddySoldier
    @ShaddySoldier 6 місяців тому

    Dont bully the froggy.

  • @FolstrimHori
    @FolstrimHori 9 місяців тому

    AWWWWWW

  • @cursedflandre390
    @cursedflandre390 9 місяців тому

    Sanae

  • @nekrosstv2432
    @nekrosstv2432 9 місяців тому +2

    Kanako is my mom and my waifu

    • @czarnakoza9697
      @czarnakoza9697 9 місяців тому

      alabama

    • @nekrosstv2432
      @nekrosstv2432 9 місяців тому

      @@czarnakoza9697 sweet home Alabama.Dang I love that song.............Kanako best waifu

    • @czarnakoza9697
      @czarnakoza9697 9 місяців тому

      @@nekrosstv2432 honestly no opinion