@ me too, but they’ll probably remain firm in their beliefs that “Ador cannot interfere in our individual activities” and “Ador is trying to control and terrorize us” vibes
I used to think they are actually victims here but not after that hanni and minji live where hanni went to national assembly and later on live both were ijboling hard.I don't think if anyone who actually went through a workplace bullying will have that kind of attitude.And i also don't think MHJ asked them to open live and ijbol hard and openly mock that new CEO of ador
That live showed them for what they are. Up until then, even though I didn't support them, I felt they'd been groomed and gave them some grace. But the way they were joking and laughing about the NA. Nope. I was done making excuses for them.
This was what did it for me too… I thought it was very weird of them to do that. It felt very off and I just got a fake vibe from her and Minji afterward.
They're manipulative af. They know exactly what they're doing and are trying to capitalize on the "innocent young girl" image to have the Court of Public Opinion lean in their favor. They know they can't win legally, so they're trying to force Hybe to back off in fear for their reputation. They're just too stupid to understand that money trumps all... and they're not BTS.
There are so many personal telegram messages of MHJ that have been leaked to the press, so people are speculating MHJ side is clearly divided... and people that were on her side are now trying to jump from the sinking ship, which makes sense.
@@AngelitoRage entitlement and self victimisation seems all too common with idols in general yes there is such severe things that go unnoticed to a lot of idols however that doesnt mean that njs being ignored means theyre suddenly the biggest victims out there in the kpop system
@@noydbnoydb9402 AND Hybe gave them everything..... Company spent shit on them since pre-debut. The songs, brand deals, good mvs, EVERYTHING. They are so spoon fed they became so entitled. They thought they're the ones who earned it all. Partially yes, but they're only 20% of it or even less.
You cannot see them anymore as some innocent young artists. They are certainly arrogant and indeed stupid; however, their actions do not seem like those of inocent and young artists. They have a dark side and it smells like irresposibility, narcissim, selfish, ignorance and just plain stupidity.
And yet, MHJ supporters & some toxic tokkis will STILL say MHJ is right & can do no wrong. It’s no coincidence she stated she needed months to “Bond” with the girls. Mind you, she stated like 2-3 months… then she took EIGHT. She groomed NewJeans & they’ll be the ones to suffer the most. I wish someone would just tell them & help them. They’d still have a chance & a lot of the hate they get would stop.
@ Incredibly! Had it been a male ceo with NewJeans… we’d be having a different conversation. It’s crazy to me that people can’t see the truth. I wish the girls well but them following MHJ is NOT the right move.
MHJ and Nj meet most if not all the globally recognized criteria and indicators for Abu$er and Abu$ed. I used to think HYBE would play that card and ask for a psychological evaluation to stop her from finding more victims- which she will- but I don’t think they will now. That could blast open a big K-pop can of worms that we all know about…
You can’t tell someone something they don’t want to hear. It will do no good trying to talk to these girls. They will believe her only, and support her until she lets them crash and burn, and them walks away from them. It could be sooner than anyone thinks, because MHJ is on a severe downward trajectory.
This is all such a mess. I have been periodically YELLING @ NJ to go to Ador and find a solution, before they completely ruin their present idol lives, and their future personal lives.
The korean people still love new jeans and mhj after all this drama. If adults, NJ parents and bunnies are still positive about that and doesn't understand the severity, how can we expect that NJ members will understand that. Its really funny how their own parents doesn't understand who is wrong in the situation and misguiding their own children.
@@VasuVerma-we9tp The general Korean populace is wrong about this for the same reason they usually are: because they were only interested at the very start. In kpop the very first thing you hear is usually wrong or misdirection. Only kpop nerds in Korea and outside will take the rational position. This is not something we can attribute to NJS and their parents, they should know better.
I wonder if things become too much to handle, would Mhj drop nwjns and just save herself? She could say that it was nwjns who voluntarily supported her.
The ones breaching are the ones with 'exclusive contract' not their mama. So they girls will be the ones to pay the penalty to terminate the contract plus all the penalties in damages for each additional breach. The damages must be substantial for Ador to file. (Not even getting into the possibility of them actively involved in tampering)Their mama has a different issue, the tampering (which could mean jail time), harasmment cover-ups, etc etc.
The CEO of ADOR and a few others tried but the girls did not want to believe them. Growing up/independent is hard and that is what they need to be - but they cling to the easier managment of Min - less hard decisions, all benefits but no needed thinking about it. Understandable - but not helpful for them.
NJ are not listening to anyone but MHJ their downfall, Ador gave them to many opportunities to return but they ignored. So sad for these young women especially the foreign two, who are to headstrong to listen and see what MHJ has done.
It's so funny how Donkkis on Twitter act like NJ won through this move of ADOR and will be "free" even sooner. Their fandom is really an interesting breed, completely free of intelligence and the main reason why the girls are in this particular situation (besides MHJ and their parents). If they (and Team Bunnies in particular) supported them in the legally right manner, we wouldn't be where we are right now and NJ would continue doing great music and schedules. The next weeks and months will definitely be fun to watch. 🙈
And you have evidence of this. Oh wait, you are a Blink..I don’t think you are in a position, say, a company known to have several artists w drug problem,gambling, and other issues.@flowers4jisoo
@@flowers4jisoo Vprašajte Min Heejin o tem, ona je univerzalna s tem poslovanjem. Nič čudnega ni, da je njen primer (spolnega nadlegovanja) sedaj na sodišču.
the injunction makes sense. I remember someone saying that if Ador knowingly lets newjeans commit contract violations with the soul purpose of using it to sue them later, it may actually not look favourable in court. In the end the courts will always want to preserve the contract, unless one side has committed serious violations meaning the contract can no longer be fufilled, ADOR cannot be insisting the contract is valid and trying to use a court of law to forcibly uphold its validity, while also letting NWJNS violate the terms of the contract (making the contract invalid) so they can punish them for violating it. It's the same reason why NWJNS refusal to mediate with ADOR before the 28th could hurt their case because it somewhat shows there was no intention to uphold the contract in the first place. This is also something that I believe hurt 5050/ablume girls case as well.
At least the 5050 girls had valid reasons to want their contract terminated even though they sued the wrong person but New Jeans literally had zero reason to talk about their “mistreatment “ !!
@Ray-z6c I still see this as a warning for those companies willing to bypass Ador and sign them directly. This is like level 2 warning. The 1st one already issues last year. They probably have lots of private convos with managers and companies to cover their backs. They have to walk a very fine line with those companies as you want them as allies for future endeavors, Ador does not want to lose them by being harsh, nor wants to get sued by them for breaching a standing contract. The way they issued also covers the 'we care for them' part. They are being masterful (from what we know)
@@anechuu yup, i think the people saying ADOR is letting new jeans violate the contract so they can collect even more evidence and sue the hell out of them are possibly to focused on revenge, it's just not realistic because new jeans cannot pay for the damages they have caused ador in revenue losses, nor will they even be able to pay the termination fee for their FC's , ADOR's end goal is to get NewJeans to return, not to bury them in debt. Even if ADOR is doing that, they won't even receive a smidge of the money that theyre owed, compared to the money they could regenerate from NewJeans final 4yrs of contract. This injunction is supposed to protect any sort of future ADOR and Newjeans may have.
Serves them right for acting so arrogantly and stupidly as if they've gained invincible status in the industry. Seriously, who did they think they were? Even most of their seniors, with massive level of local and internatiinal success, even after many years, were never this arrogant. These girls really need a shot of humility in their system, perhaps some extra shots for Hanni and Minji especially.
Sorry I do not feel bad for these girls. They have been given many opportunities to change the direction of their ways and they have chosen to not listen. I hope they a very hard lesson so that make better decisions in the future. Maybe see that the people they decided to trust were only out to use them and as adults they are now allowing it. I only feel slightly bad for the minor in this. Their parents should also be responsible and pay the price.
The girls have betrayed those that have supported them and invested in them. They are out of KPOP now. The only way back in is through Ador. Their actions will return many regrets which will last a lifetime.
NewJeans is tied to the hip of MHJ and they are going to destroy themselves for her and it's really heartbreaking as a fan to see this play out. NewJeans were on their way being the biggest girl group since BlackPink possibly even bigger. HYBE is going to crush these young girls and it's the parents fault for going along with MHJ crazy plan
True! If things continue to get even more complicated for her, she will not think before throwing them under the bus...at this point, it's actually hard to feel bad for them and I also think that their parents are also to blame for this situation.
I think that NJs have lied throughout this debacle. But I also believe they were just following Mother's orders blindly. And it IS sad, due to the grooming that MHJ did.
Well...to be honest their parents should have been the ones to get them in right track or distance them from mhj but they've been helping that lady since this drama started smh...
Sadly, I feel they have painted themselves into a corner. They will not be able to come “back” to ADOR due to all of the things they have said and implied. Their careers are going to stall because the will most likely have to pay huge fines, and other companies may see them as “problematic.” Red flags are raised because if this is how they are treating ADOR(HYBE) when they were treated like princesses, other companies that are not as big and well connected as HYBE (ADOR) will have to wonder how they would fare should they bring them in, and then the Jeanz Girls become dissatisfied, or feel they’re not getting what they think they deserve. Their once shiny, bright future, is definitely dulled and beginning to tarnish.
Sigh…every now and then I’m reminded how vicious Mhj can be and after hearing about how viciously she talked about Bang to the Dabolink chairman, the attitude of the girls towards Adors CEO and Bang PD makes sense because I think they think Hybe actually hates them. Imagine having Mhj in your ear non-stop ranting what a bully and Bang he is and blaming everything that goes wrong on a deliberate manoeuvre by Bang to bring down Ador. Imagine doing it so much that the girls are seeing imaginary plots, lies and nastiness around every corner. Imagine if they think the only way to fight back is this chaotic narcissistic way their mentor has shown them. If the situation is this bad, then it’s insane, sigh.
Ikr mhj already have this attitude of disliking hybe (obviously it has to do with bangpd but not sure what's the actual reason behind her hatred...) even the victim A who seeked an apology were accused of being Hybe's spy because this woman wasn't loyal to her and actually used their own head smh...
Those girls aren't living in a closed room. They know the different opinions about their situation. Their choice is their choice. No whining regrets afterwards. Idiots.
@silvermoon6486the actual reason for mhj hating bang pd must be because she must got the sweetest deal in hybe amongst her counterparts due to her "benefit" that she must have given to bang pd but when new jeans became successful mhj being self entitled and greedy person that she is must have asked for more from bang pd which he must have declined and so she started all her plotting and planning....
@@anechuu they're exploiting EVERY SINGLE WON from Ador/Hybe while claiming themselves as "independents" that Vogue Korea cover, brand deals (which A LOT of them declined), their 'jeanzforfree' instagram, their appereance on CBS radio (Korea's Christian Broadcast Show), ALL THIS without Ador's consent they even straightly canceled concerts and other contents under Ador's name with no valid reason when more these scandals come to light, less sympathy I feel for them they had all the chances to conciliate and regret their misdeeds, but no, they're willing to trow their YEARS of career on trash just to being under the wings of someone who don't give 2 shits abt them
That is their only smart move actually, if the contracts are upheld in court they can argue they never stopped working for ADOR and fulfilled all their commitments. Making deals outside of ADOR makes the whole thing rather pointless though
@@pignonMZ6 Ador publicly stated they have not been able to communicate with them since the last scheduled event. (They probably have receits). Something is off here
@ Which is a weird statement to me, NJ is travelling with ADOR to all those meetings and venues, they share the same planes, cars and hotels but somehow they can't talk to them? Sure. I think that statement is misleading at best, that's just ADOR trying to make the case that the girls have failed to cooperate with them, breaching their contracts in doing so. Possibly the only mistake ADOR made so far, this can be used in court by the girls to prove ADOR is not acting in good faith and is trying to undermine them publicly. Which supports their claims. Good thing ADOR stopped making those public statements, it was damaging to them.
Hanni & Hyein are at home with their families. Danielle & Haerin are @ Haerin's parents. Minji is with her family. This was obtained from a poster at this YT vid: New Jeans Drama EXPOSED: Choreographers Quit, Content Canceled, & Lawsuits Heat Up! The poster stated where the info came from. Unfortunately, I do not remember where she said she got it. It was stated though.
@ "and NJ just walk right into Hybe like nothing happened." I may have misinterpreted this comment. I thought to share where NJ members were this last weekend 1-11-25. Now I'm confused. So much for two people trying to communicate.😁 No harm meant.
Not a supporter of the company either but this girls damn are they arrogant nd narcissistic. And to all the nj supporters defending the girls saying that it’s mhj grooming them…. Y’all the girls are not babies. They have grown ass brains !!!! This girls need to be slapped back to reality and never be famous again and work a 9 to 5 ! Ban them from the industry
You know Judge Judy is not an actual court right? It is actually arbitration which is usually done across a table in an office somewhere with no audience.
Careful...facts will get you labelled as a bitter old woman hating on grown ah- ''kids.'' Or a "HYBE stan.'' 😂😂😂 I just hope they apologize if they return, i won't be supporting them eitherway it goes. And many ARMY dropped their support for ''BTS' (now orphaned) little sisters'' as well...
They should have never been labeled that anyways - not even once. Maybe step sisters from a marriage that ended so long ago.. anyways 🤣 I hate they were marketed even a little bit like that.
Не стоит называть New Judas, сёстрами великих артистов,они ими никогда не были и не будут, они и артистами то по большому счету не стали. Вспомните как плохо Ханни играла в национальном собрании, костовщина и посмешище.
I think they've been so nice so far even this is only about advertisers being warned to not even try making contracts with any of the group members, if they don't want to get in legal case with them.
ADOR will take the same position with any label that might be crazy enough to sign with New Jeans with the current drama. Here's the basic business reality people have been pointing out. Until the legal situation is resolved, no one is going to touch them for fear of legal action from Hybe. Maybe the girls will win in the end, I've got no issue with that as I'm not particularly a fan of either NJ or any Hybe group, but the fact of the matter is even a win is a loss because of being on hiatus for a year or even longer. Everyone knew that Hybe/Ador was not going to let this go without a legal fight. Even if everything NJ claims is true, they'd still need to prove it in court to have a shot at having the contract declared legally void.
No major agency would ever sign them after this. Not in a million years. An idol group that is only willing to work with one person and are attempting to abandon their legal contract? Nope, they're cooked.
Adore just straight up needs to sue them. After all this they still want to work with those witches......the audacity of them to go searching for brand deals...
They are children. As much as I am so extremely annoyed at how stupid or naive these kids are, they are still young. They gave them so much time and chances to think about this through but nothing worked. Unfortunately for them, this might be the end for them.
Imagine if Elon Musk decided to buy up the NewJeans group and MHJ and pay up all their penalties. For a Multibillionaire like Elon, this amount is peanuts. But in return, NewJeans are made the ambassadors for all of Elon’s products. With NewJeans’ global fame, this seems like a good deal.
Actually they sabotaged themselves they had great potential to be the next big kpop act honestly they were bring back those 90s nostalgia with there own twist they were hybe most successful girl group it's too bad that the sabotaged there career for min her jin
This won’t last … I wonder how do old short handle things with mhj when they don’t agree with certain stuff. Because ain’t no way they are risking their career for this women who talked bad about them
K-pop management is horrible and controls should change. But it has worked for decades. These girls thought they're some trendsetter and hero, did their own thing not knowing anything. It's pure stupidity.
I agree hybe isn't the pure innocent best company but they are better from what I have heard about other companies secondly in this matter if nj willingly pushed themselves in between hybe and mhj they would have been safe and growing in there career
@@joyeetaghosh2209 way better than the big 3. I've been stanning since SuJu (ik im old lol) so i know Hybe seem insane and controlling but they're more humane than sm, jyp and yg. you can't "talk" there unless you "made it". NJ is ignorant and stupid, that's all there is. I hate that they're creating so much noise, and now fans are "boycotting hybe and only supporting the groups" -ALSO STUPID, you need to support both or you will lose your group.
also, the "you can't talk there unless you made it" -you can talk, but they'll think about whether they'll listen to you. Just this week, SM had SMTown event. They "forgot" to give the god Taeyeon a song to sing. Same issues with SuJu Yesung and RV Wendy. Those people have made it. But yet....
I am so sick of NJ, their egotistical, arrogant and narcissistic attitude along with their cult leader MHJ. They done too much damages and expected to come out clean of the mess they started in the first place. Really sick of their toxicity. They are all adults except hyein and should be held accountable for their actions. Stop infantizing and defending them. They aren't even that talented to be acting like an entitled diva.
As far as we know the question on the validity of the exclusive contracts between the members and ADOR has not been addressed by a SK court yet. Meaning all the comments you made in this video are purely hypothetical. From what has been published so far by the girls and ADOR it is highly unlikely that NJ unilateral termination will be upheld in court, and as long as this process is not over it is true that NJ should be extremely careful not to exacerbate their potential liability. The way I see it, the girls are extremely confident their termination will be upheld and they don't want to waste any time/money. But yes, it is a gamble, a very dangerous one to be honest.
😂 the whole validation of contract was just a soft option to get the NJ back to working rather than a lawsuit in the first instance, a warning shot, there is no question that the exclusive contract is valid, Ador are now taking the legal action that they could have taken in the beginning as these silly girls ignored the warning.
If this injunction was filed last week then that means these girls been knew about this and still are reckless wow they are gonna be in a firm stance all the way aren’t they
I used to feel sorry for them, but each appearance they made -- Hanni going to the National Assembly and her barely suppressed glee at the CEO's humiliation, Minji's pride in Hanni crying at the National Assembly, and the girls' disrespect of the reporters in their last press conference just led me to conclude that they are mean girls and it's hard to feel sorry for a mean girl. They believe they're better and smarter than everyone else like MHJ does. In fact, they're in cahoots with MHJ. I don't know what's in their minds, but I believe that MHJ is still following through with her 1945 plan. MHJ wants to make Ador an empty shell, to lose its value, so that she could acquire it for cheap, with investor backing. I believe she's offering more of a cut to NJs than they had when they were attached with HYBE, just like exect L had been promised if he went along with her machinations. He retracted his confession, but I believe he was honest the first time. NJs is tied to Ador through their contracts. It's easier and cheaper to acquire the company. I don't think NJs plan to go to court at all. I think they're stalling, letting Ador lose its value, hoping that Ador would give up before anything comes from the courts. It's a game of chicken for everyone involved. One that NJs probably feel is worth it, since they believe that HYBE "hates" them and that Bang has a personal illogical grudge against them.
There is no way that BSH would sell Ador to MHJ and especially for a bargain price, so if that was her plan it is dead in the water. Hybe owes 80% of the company so would have complete control over what happens to it. They can sustain it as a shell holding New Jeans contracts until they expire if they wanted to. The injunction would prevent New Jeans working elsewhere until the legal case is heard later this year. So it will be an impasse and deadlock for many months to come I expect with little room for twists and turns if the injunction is upheld as I expect.
The new ceo joins n within a few days hanni went to NA n give that viral look... she don't know her but give her that look which is disrespectful... if she think "asking someone to ignore is bullying them what about her action.... i really felt bad for the ceo woman she just get a new post n doing her job with sincerity
I've always been a very passive fan of NJ but all of this is making me actively dislike them lol. Like the group is just such a mess and I can NOT care to support them anymore
Just pay $400 M and get free. Each members got paid 5M in two years. And hani claimed she poor worker filed a complaint to labor dept. And it got rejected.
@@donsilkco70 even if they all put in $5 million that still is way short of the 400 million which is only an estimate ... Higher or lower? Who knows. That's one of the reasons MHJ is trying to lessen the value of Ador as it would lower the penalty fee to buy them out.
its ador fault they teachnus to be bias they are so loyal to heejin even if a member want to continue with ador they are forced not to bec its the group decision majority wins
😂😂 nope the contracts are individual, & I suspect that at least one member isn't happy with the direction things are going giving the leaking of the Telegraph messages.
Jedna z wielu prawd z kim przestajesz takim się stajesz. Matka MHJ nauczyła je tego, co sama umiała czyli intrygi i manipulacji. Ale trudno uwierzyć, że osoby przyzwyczajone do luksusów i dużych pieniędzy mogą działać tak bezmyślnie. Za ich plecami musi stać wielki sponsor nienawidzący BSH, który osobistą wendetę robi ich rękami za co zapewne otrzymają gratyfikacje czyli otworzenie rynku chińskiego.
Industrija na kitajskem ne cveti več, polno je propadlih firm. Nasilje in korupcija pa se širi! Kitajska ni več dežela zlata! Bankrot kitajske je za vogalom.
Honestly, i think they would have done well even if they stayed at Ador. I don't think the mistreatment would have continued after. I love these girls but im not happy with their decision. Coz look at the outcome. They would have done well still!
Was the verdict on the MHJ case out? I thought it wasn't out yet, and this understanding is based on leaks by Dispatch. And also, this is all true on the stand that NJ doesn’t have any grounds to break away from the contract. Imagine there is, and all hell will break loose in the K-pop industry contracts. But how come everyone is already saying NJ lost? The verdict is not out yet that the contract is valid, and we don't know if they have an ace up their sleeve. I'm not saying they won't lose. But, without a proper verdict, this is nothing but trying to pull the audience to one side or trying to create a wave among the audience for generic support.
There was a ruling from the Seoul Regional Employment and Labor Office on January 13th that the "illegal audit" MHJ used as the basis of her claims against HYBE was not illegal. It came in the sexual harassment case brought against ADOR's "Executive A" and MHJ by "Employee B". Now that the audit has been ruled legal all of MHJ and NJ's claims will collapse like a house of cards.
The legality of the contract will not come to court for months I expect. Ador filed an injunction to stop New Jeans from working independently until the initial decision is reached. Note the word initial. Ador clearly expect the court case to go on and on with appeal after appeal before a final judgement is made. But the injunction only lasts until the first decision if granted. Further injunctions may be required after that. So it is stalemate at the moment with no one winning. Most people assume that Ador will win eventually including myself but nothing conclusive is likely to happen in the short term. This will be a long long drama.
@@peterhugo2078 I just feel the timing is very convenient on details like, let’s skip new in newillea -> NJ said they’d break free from ADOR -> ADOR doesn’t file any law suit immediately -> NJ members start getting brand contracts outside ADOR -> ADOR immediately files injunction to stop such brand deals -> SM launches new girl group. Just imagine if launching this new girl group was the idea from the start and to do that they want to drop NJ, and NJ members found out and they tried to stop it by breaking free using clauses in contract from ADOR. ADOR left them alone as they’re still fulfilling projects pre-approved thinking they can’t do much after breaking free. But, as they’ve started getting deals and shows outside, ADOR immediately filed injunction so that the brand deals won’t go to NJ members but for the new group SM launching. This way, they keep profits from NJ, sabotage them, and yet get all the publicity by portraying themselves as trying to get hold of artists and stuff and also keep hold of the brand deals. I hope this is all just in my head and not true. Because if it is anyway similar, that shows really dark world of K-pop. If not I hope all the best for the members for what to come.
@@suryabhai-j5q9j that would be dark indeed. But Ador are launching a new boy group not a girl group. They have only invited auditions for girls to apply for so a new girl group is a long way off. Gfriend’s replacement group was the initial strategy by BSH for Source Music, who introduced girl auditions in 2019 to start the process. That is the only reason why Big Hit bought the company. Hybe didn’t even exist back then. He hired MJH as the best in the business with a proven track record second to none to mould the new group into a successful supergroup. But look how many years it took for that group to debut. Ador won’t be debuting a replacement girl group for a long time. But things went horribly wrong for BSH when he started working with her and found her strong willed and uncooperative and unwilling to bend to his own thoughts about their concept. So he decided to allow her to go her own direction and funded Ador for her to follow her own path there. She was proven right in the end as she took a very ordinary batch of trainees, only one of which came from Source Music, and turned them into a supergroup. But she was unhappy with the rewards she was getting from the arrangement and was jealous of the many millions of dollars they were earning the company and Hybe. So she plotted about how to steal them away so she could keep most of their future earnings instead. New Jeans were brainwashed into believing that they were being mistreated which could not be farther from the truth. Try looking at GFriend if they want to know what real mistreatment feels like but they never walked away from their contract. But she was found out before she could put her plan in action and subsequent events spiralled out of control as she recruited New Jeans into fighting her battle for giving her leverage to demand her return. But everything snowballed afterwards until we get to the mess this currently is.
😂😂 oh the ignorant foolishness of that comment even during their military enlistment BTS have earned 60% of HYBE Sth Korea profits, and they have actually proven they can succeed as solo artists, which many other idols can not.
I went to school for marketing and advertising. My dissertation was on the future of e-marketing, which spoiler would revolve around B2B and C2C marketing. Anyways what i am trying to say is that to market anything would have to make sure as many people as possible would see it. The Advertiser are after your following. So do these girls think that advertisers would settle for their little IG page? No people want TV and UA-cam professional adverts billboards etc. And i am sure the girls want sponsors that they have been previously used to who pay the big bucks. Even if they get the small advertisers under the table that their " mamma" taught them was okay. Again, they even more don't want to be sued. If you want to do business with a Korean Act or an Act signed by an agency you have to go through them that is the law😂😂😂 Even if you want to be an influencer or IG star the bigger you get; the more national and international brands you have working with. Those people have things done through the law an agency. Ps these girls are just cheapening their brand, how embarrassing to call up people directly I wonder if the called up chanel or gucci and asked for the next round of money to enter into the account directly
Law makers please make sure that each brat member and their individual parents pay Ador!!! I am so fedup with these entitled brats and their parents. They are all independent "adults" and should know that their actions has consequences
In any case civil or other the court of public opinion can damage ADOR and HYPE more than the girls. These five young girls have become in the USA, Australia, and Europe almost as popular as AESPA, and Black Pink, and in a very short time, and that these pre-adults are being taken advantage of because of the political power of the Music industry in Korea wants to keep things as they are.
They signed a long term contract and thought they could just walk away from it. The music industry is very expensive; their success would have never happened without the many millions invested by Ador. They were a flash in the pan and will quickly be forgotten as it comes up to a year of virtually doing nothing. New girl group appear on the scene every year and many popular established ones. NJ were so new that they really were not well established. Takes time for things to work their way through court system but in the meantime more and more bad new comes out about MJN….she will not be there to support them and they have put everything on MJN.
Hmm. I’m a big fan but this is too much. They really need a good lawyer 😢💔 I understand they were overworked and overwhelmed, putting their health in danger, but they still signed the dotted line. Please be careful NJ🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤
@@Drizz9078no, not as interesting as this apparently. Not even the removal of Taeil from NCT got this much traction, let alone attention. Wonder who buried that revelation so it wouldn’t be talked about for no longer than 5 minutes… 💭 *SM* 💭 plus this actual case will decide a lot for the future of contracts in kpop.. sooooooo yeah, people are gonna talk about it. A LOT.
It really is sad, I have a strong feeling that MHJ promised them something big or that there is more to this story. I’ve been trying to understand their perspective but ofc there’s more to the story we don’t know. Even before they spoke out hype wanted to put them on a 2 year hiatus (allegedly) and knowing hybe, if that had happened they would have gotten the formis9 treatment. I really believe if they had been there for NJ from the start we wouldn’t be here, now MHJ is taking them down with her. They didn’t show themselves to be reliable and left 5 minors (pre début NJ) in the hands of MHJ, all the adults that let this happen are to blame, Hybe, MHJ and especially their parents for indulging with MHJ’s BS. The problem here is the lack of protection and EDUCATION for young idols!
World would be nice place when army stop kissing Hybe Assess and dragging everyone like Hybe dragged every idol their Betty report where they even dragged and disrespecting some of their artists, stop pretending you are partially individual when you and rest of army try to defend Band PD and Hybe
"Their Betty report" was entirely written by people like you. It's a collection of your comments on the Internet. The world will be better if no comments full of hate be allowed.
Well I want ask a question I heard varat and enhypen and bts names tthere were negative comments about lsf ,illit , seventeen and enhypen if according to you if the report was for negative pr for the downfall of other groups why would there will be negative comments about there own company groups
Y’all use that dumbass internal report as if it actually matters. Worse shit is said by people like you on twitter every fucking hour - which is how they got those kinda comments. The personal opinions of the one making the report shouldn’t have been part of it and they’re gone now. Either way, it’s fucking irrelevant and other companies do the same, if not worse. You people only care cuz you already hate hybe. And hybe could certainly do better and given they’re only 4 years old as a company, they got plenty of time to straighten out.. SM and YG has had two fucking decades - what’s their excuse after all this time?????????????? Nothing good I’ll tell you that.
Too bad MHJ started this before newjeans were even a thing and USED them to get what she wanted. Too bad but not so sad anymore. Also didn’t really get anything she planned so that’s a win for anybody tbh!
The new ceo joins n within a few days hanni went to NA n give that viral look... she don't know her but give her that look which is disrespectful... if she think "asking someone to ignore is bullying them what about her action.... i really felt bad for the ceo woman she just get a new post n doing her job with sincerity
Min Hee Jin is innocent!!! Free New Jeans!!
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what 💀
Bruh
@@igotbit9454 they don't deserve to be respected
@@igotbit9454 min hee Jin is not Innocent
Ador even gave them a little nudge to say "hey, don't do this. we will have to sue" and they did it anyway
No nudge even. Just “hey, we’ll have to sue!”
i just hope the girls see this as a wake up call and not as a horrible thing
@ilikeguitar11 the girls don’t care , very arrogant !!!
@ me too, but they’ll probably remain firm in their beliefs that “Ador cannot interfere in our individual activities” and “Ador is trying to control and terrorize us” vibes
The arrogance of these girls literally give false hopes to the real artists who get mistreatment from the companies.
I used to think they are actually victims here but not after that hanni and minji live where hanni went to national assembly and later on live both were ijboling hard.I don't think if anyone who actually went through a workplace bullying will have that kind of attitude.And i also don't think MHJ asked them to open live and ijbol hard and openly mock that new CEO of ador
What's ijbol?
It stands for "I just burst out laughing" @@Ghazalwluv
That live showed them for what they are. Up until then, even though I didn't support them, I felt they'd been groomed and gave them some grace. But the way they were joking and laughing about the NA. Nope. I was done making excuses for them.
This was what did it for me too… I thought it was very weird of them to do that. It felt very off and I just got a fake vibe from her and Minji afterward.
They're manipulative af. They know exactly what they're doing and are trying to capitalize on the "innocent young girl" image to have the Court of Public Opinion lean in their favor. They know they can't win legally, so they're trying to force Hybe to back off in fear for their reputation. They're just too stupid to understand that money trumps all... and they're not BTS.
There are so many personal telegram messages of MHJ that have been leaked to the press, so people are speculating MHJ side is clearly divided... and people that were on her side are now trying to jump from the sinking ship, which makes sense.
Arrogance and stupidity, all in one package. How efficient of NJ.
I like it, very entertaining and a topic of conversation, they show the characteristics of their generation lol
@@AngelitoRage entitlement and self victimisation seems all too common with idols in general yes there is such severe things that go unnoticed to a lot of idols however that doesnt mean that njs being ignored means theyre suddenly the biggest victims out there in the kpop system
@randomuser-nt9ifu guys act like u know everything u clearly don’t
And the sad part is? They're not even good, they're just mediocre in every way
@@noydbnoydb9402 AND Hybe gave them everything..... Company spent shit on them since pre-debut. The songs, brand deals, good mvs, EVERYTHING. They are so spoon fed they became so entitled. They thought they're the ones who earned it all. Partially yes, but they're only 20% of it or even less.
You cannot see them anymore as some innocent young artists. They are certainly arrogant and indeed stupid; however, their actions do not seem like those of inocent and young artists. They have a dark side and it smells like irresposibility, narcissim, selfish, ignorance and just plain stupidity.
ijbol
They lost their fresh fresh IDOL image😢😢😢😢😢
How the grown women single HANDLY DESTROYED their career
...and laziness.
@@banny95ilu not just a grown woman, but THE grown woman
I love newjeans and I will keep on supporting them❤
And yet, MHJ supporters & some toxic tokkis will STILL say MHJ is right & can do no wrong.
It’s no coincidence she stated she needed months to “Bond” with the girls. Mind you, she stated like 2-3 months… then she took EIGHT. She groomed NewJeans & they’ll be the ones to suffer the most.
I wish someone would just tell them & help them. They’d still have a chance & a lot of the hate they get would stop.
That was always weird as hell for her to say
@ Incredibly! Had it been a male ceo with NewJeans… we’d be having a different conversation. It’s crazy to me that people can’t see the truth. I wish the girls well but them following MHJ is NOT the right move.
MHJ and Nj meet most if not all the globally recognized criteria and indicators for Abu$er and Abu$ed. I used to think HYBE would play that card and ask for a psychological evaluation to stop her from finding more victims- which she will- but I don’t think they will now. That could blast open a big K-pop can of worms that we all know about…
You can’t tell someone something they don’t want to hear. It will do no good trying to talk to these girls. They will believe her only, and support her until she lets them crash and burn, and them walks away from them. It could be sooner than anyone thinks, because MHJ is on a severe downward trajectory.
This is all such a mess.
I have been periodically YELLING @ NJ to go to Ador and find a solution, before they completely ruin their present idol lives, and their future personal lives.
Aint no way they are that young to take a hint and realize there's no way out for them💀
thats what i mean they dont realise the severity of these actions no accountability ever seems to cross their small narrow minds
The korean people still love new jeans and mhj after all this drama. If adults, NJ parents and bunnies are still positive about that and doesn't understand the severity, how can we expect that NJ members will understand that.
Its really funny how their own parents doesn't understand who is wrong in the situation and misguiding their own children.
@@VasuVerma-we9tp The general Korean populace is wrong about this for the same reason they usually are: because they were only interested at the very start. In kpop the very first thing you hear is usually wrong or misdirection. Only kpop nerds in Korea and outside will take the rational position.
This is not something we can attribute to NJS and their parents, they should know better.
@@VasuVerma-we9tp cause theyre gullible as fuck and lap up anything theyre given by these big wig agencies
@@VasuVerma-we9tp I believe a lot of the GP went against NJs after their termination press conference. Now they really just have bunnies on their side
This real-life K-drama keeps getting better and better! 😆
Yes and I'm here for it, this is like the best Kdrama series of all time 😂
These are the lives of children being groomed by corrupt adults we’re talking about here… this is NOT drama! This is reality sweetheart.
@@OGseoulite Sweetheart? I'm almost 70, but ok darling.
I wonder if things become too much to handle, would Mhj drop nwjns and just save herself? She could say that it was nwjns who voluntarily supported her.
Es seguro lo que va a hacer , una vez que no quede nada de NJ, porque tampoco se la quiere dejar a Ador.
I really wouldn't be surprised at all .. seeing as she's up to her eyes in legal cases.and she still owes 3.94. billion krw in loans .
The ones breaching are the ones with 'exclusive contract' not their mama. So they girls will be the ones to pay the penalty to terminate the contract plus all the penalties in damages for each additional breach. The damages must be substantial for Ador to file. (Not even getting into the possibility of them actively involved in tampering)Their mama has a different issue, the tampering (which could mean jail time), harasmment cover-ups, etc etc.
@anechuu well the parents need to come up with the money ... cause mama jeans is going to be BROKE !!
That's not entire false though, they did indeed support her voluntarily.
These girls have gone too far down the rabbit hole to recover.
I was sincerely hoping an ACTUAL adult would help these girls before it got to this point😭😭 Everyone in their lives are just failing them smh
well theyre not helpless totally theyre adults as much as anyone else is around them
The CEO of ADOR and a few others tried but the girls did not want to believe them.
Growing up/independent is hard and that is what they need to be - but they cling to the easier managment of Min - less hard decisions, all benefits but no needed thinking about it.
Understandable - but not helpful for them.
Aren't they 19+ (except one)?
they have heejin daepyonim as their adult
NJ are not listening to anyone but MHJ their downfall, Ador gave them to many opportunities to return but they ignored. So sad for these young women especially the foreign two, who are to headstrong to listen and see what MHJ has done.
It's so funny how Donkkis on Twitter act like NJ won through this move of ADOR and will be "free" even sooner. Their fandom is really an interesting breed, completely free of intelligence and the main reason why the girls are in this particular situation (besides MHJ and their parents). If they (and Team Bunnies in particular) supported them in the legally right manner, we wouldn't be where we are right now and NJ would continue doing great music and schedules. The next weeks and months will definitely be fun to watch. 🙈
ADOR and HYBE are doing everything right, moving forward. Respect.
Respect for a multi billion dollar company who is known to mistreat their idols and sexualize minors and more? How inconsiderate of you.
And you have evidence of this. Oh wait, you are a Blink..I don’t think you are in a position, say, a company known to have several artists w drug problem,gambling, and other issues.@flowers4jisoo
@@flowers4jisoo Vprašajte Min Heejin o tem, ona je univerzalna s tem poslovanjem. Nič čudnega ni, da je njen primer (spolnega nadlegovanja) sedaj na sodišču.
the injunction makes sense. I remember someone saying that if Ador knowingly lets newjeans commit contract violations with the soul purpose of using it to sue them later, it may actually not look favourable in court.
In the end the courts will always want to preserve the contract, unless one side has committed serious violations meaning the contract can no longer be fufilled, ADOR cannot be insisting the contract is valid and trying to use a court of law to forcibly uphold its validity, while also letting NWJNS violate the terms of the contract (making the contract invalid) so they can punish them for violating it. It's the same reason why NWJNS refusal to mediate with ADOR before the 28th could hurt their case because it somewhat shows there was no intention to uphold the contract in the first place. This is also something that I believe hurt 5050/ablume girls case as well.
Yes. ADOR is stockpiling evidence to sue them, and just letting them make mistakes.
At least the 5050 girls had valid reasons to want their contract terminated even though they sued the wrong person but New Jeans literally had zero reason to talk about their “mistreatment “ !!
@Ray-z6c I still see this as a warning for those companies willing to bypass Ador and sign them directly. This is like level 2 warning. The 1st one already issues last year. They probably have lots of private convos with managers and companies to cover their backs. They have to walk a very fine line with those companies as you want them as allies for future endeavors, Ador does not want to lose them by being harsh, nor wants to get sued by them for breaching a standing contract. The way they issued also covers the 'we care for them' part. They are being masterful (from what we know)
@@anechuu yup, i think the people saying ADOR is letting new jeans violate the contract so they can collect even more evidence and sue the hell out of them are possibly to focused on revenge, it's just not realistic because new jeans cannot pay for the damages they have caused ador in revenue losses, nor will they even be able to pay the termination fee for their FC's , ADOR's end goal is to get NewJeans to return, not to bury them in debt. Even if ADOR is doing that, they won't even receive a smidge of the money that theyre owed, compared to the money they could regenerate from NewJeans final 4yrs of contract. This injunction is supposed to protect any sort of future ADOR and Newjeans may have.
Serves them right for acting so arrogantly and stupidly as if they've gained invincible status in the industry. Seriously, who did they think they were? Even most of their seniors, with massive level of local and internatiinal success, even after many years, were never this arrogant. These girls really need a shot of humility in their system, perhaps some extra shots for Hanni and Minji especially.
Sorry I do not feel bad for these girls. They have been given many opportunities to change the direction of their ways and they have chosen to not listen. I hope they a very hard lesson so that make better decisions in the future. Maybe see that the people they decided to trust were only out to use them and as adults they are now allowing it. I only feel slightly bad for the minor in this. Their parents should also be responsible and pay the price.
The girls have betrayed those that have supported them and invested in them. They are out of KPOP now. The only way back in is through Ador. Their actions will return many regrets which will last a lifetime.
no way back for me, I dont care to see or hear them anymore after this drama. my playlist is forever cleared.
NewJeans is tied to the hip of MHJ and they are going to destroy themselves for her and it's really heartbreaking as a fan to see this play out. NewJeans were on their way being the biggest girl group since BlackPink possibly even bigger. HYBE is going to crush these young girls and it's the parents fault for going along with MHJ crazy plan
Were.
They asked for their downfall. I have no pitty for them. They're ruthless themselves.
MHJ wants to destroy them since she cant have them. Mind you, she wont have to pay any penalties, its the girls who will have that debt.
True! If things continue to get even more complicated for her, she will not think before throwing them under the bus...at this point, it's actually hard to feel bad for them and I also think that their parents are also to blame for this situation.
I think that NJs have lied throughout this debacle. But I also believe they were just following Mother's orders blindly.
And it IS sad, due to the grooming that MHJ did.
Well...to be honest their parents should have been the ones to get them in right track or distance them from mhj but they've been helping that lady since this drama started smh...
Min Heejin is 100% to blame
Dirty pants can read, don't they??!!
Sadly, I feel they have painted themselves into a corner. They will not be able to come “back” to ADOR due to all of the things they have said and implied. Their careers are going to stall because the will most likely have to pay huge fines, and other companies may see them as “problematic.” Red flags are raised because if this is how they are treating ADOR(HYBE) when they were treated like princesses, other companies that are not as big and well connected as HYBE (ADOR) will have to wonder how they would fare should they bring them in, and then the Jeanz Girls become dissatisfied, or feel they’re not getting what they think they deserve. Their once shiny, bright future, is definitely dulled and beginning to tarnish.
Sigh…every now and then I’m reminded how vicious Mhj can be and after hearing about how viciously she talked about Bang to the Dabolink chairman, the attitude of the girls towards Adors CEO and Bang PD makes sense because I think they think Hybe actually hates them. Imagine having Mhj in your ear non-stop ranting what a bully and Bang he is and blaming everything that goes wrong on a deliberate manoeuvre by Bang to bring down Ador. Imagine doing it so much that the girls are seeing imaginary plots, lies and nastiness around every corner. Imagine if they think the only way to fight back is this chaotic narcissistic way their mentor has shown them. If the situation is this bad, then it’s insane, sigh.
Ikr mhj already have this attitude of disliking hybe (obviously it has to do with bangpd but not sure what's the actual reason behind her hatred...) even the victim A who seeked an apology were accused of being Hybe's spy because this woman wasn't loyal to her and actually used their own head smh...
Those girls aren't living in a closed room. They know the different opinions about their situation. Their choice is their choice. No whining regrets afterwards. Idiots.
@silvermoon6486the actual reason for mhj hating bang pd must be because she must got the sweetest deal in hybe amongst her counterparts due to her "benefit" that she must have given to bang pd but when new jeans became successful mhj being self entitled and greedy person that she is must have asked for more from bang pd which he must have declined and so she started all her plotting and planning....
And I saw that they are still using the hybe building
They are serious hypocrites
@@dazumiruth-mo5xb for real? Grrr. They have no shame.
@@anechuu they're exploiting EVERY SINGLE WON from Ador/Hybe while claiming themselves as "independents"
that Vogue Korea cover, brand deals (which A LOT of them declined), their 'jeanzforfree' instagram, their appereance on CBS radio (Korea's Christian Broadcast Show), ALL THIS without Ador's consent
they even straightly canceled concerts and other contents under Ador's name with no valid reason
when more these scandals come to light, less sympathy I feel for them
they had all the chances to conciliate and regret their misdeeds, but no, they're willing to trow their YEARS of career on trash just to being under the wings of someone who don't give 2 shits abt them
That is their only smart move actually, if the contracts are upheld in court they can argue they never stopped working for ADOR and fulfilled all their commitments. Making deals outside of ADOR makes the whole thing rather pointless though
@@pignonMZ6 Ador publicly stated they have not been able to communicate with them since the last scheduled event. (They probably have receits). Something is off here
@ Which is a weird statement to me, NJ is travelling with ADOR to all those meetings and venues, they share the same planes, cars and hotels but somehow they can't talk to them?
Sure.
I think that statement is misleading at best, that's just ADOR trying to make the case that the girls have failed to cooperate with them, breaching their contracts in doing so.
Possibly the only mistake ADOR made so far, this can be used in court by the girls to prove ADOR is not acting in good faith and is trying to undermine them publicly. Which supports their claims. Good thing ADOR stopped making those public statements, it was damaging to them.
Imagine all this crap and NJ just walk right into Hybe like nothing happened. No one is going to talk to them in that building.
Hanni & Hyein are at home with their families. Danielle & Haerin are @ Haerin's parents. Minji is with her family.
This was obtained from a poster at this YT vid: New Jeans Drama EXPOSED: Choreographers Quit, Content Canceled, & Lawsuits Heat Up!
The poster stated where the info came from. Unfortunately, I do not remember where she said she got it. It was stated though.
@@spencerroberts4940 Girl does google not exist there by you ?
@@spencerroberts4940 A little confused on your comment. Ador said they still want to work with New Jeans. That is all I am trying to say.
@ "and NJ just walk right into Hybe like nothing happened." I may have misinterpreted this comment. I thought to share where NJ members were this last weekend 1-11-25. Now I'm confused.
So much for two people trying to communicate.😁 No harm meant.
This will go down so badly omg not even winning squid game could get any of them out of the debt they are about to be in 💀
😂😂
There was a chance to come back and apologize.
You said it "was" 😕
They had many chances LMAOO but they never took it when Ador was nice. And if they come back they will not get supported as before. Black sheep 💀💀
This was about to happen and ppl on tweeter still surprised…..
Fr😂. If it was SM non will be even interested nor acted suprise. Lol
Just waiting for the day to say “ Congratulations NJ, you are officially out of business. Never return again. Work a normal job now. Have ur 8-5 job.”
This !!
Top comment.
Not a supporter of the company either but this girls damn are they arrogant nd narcissistic. And to all the nj supporters defending the girls saying that it’s mhj grooming them…. Y’all the girls are not babies. They have grown ass brains !!!! This girls need to be slapped back to reality and never be famous again and work a 9 to 5 ! Ban them from the industry
They made enough money to live a good life,not necessarily luxurious
@@Gzzzz.m Tudi tega ne bo več, ker bo denar šel za tožbe in odvetnike!
Ador espero tranquilo y consiguió evidencia, ahora toma acción 👏👏
theyre going about this the wrong way the korean court needs someone like judge judy a no nonsense person
You know Judge Judy is not an actual court right? It is actually arbitration which is usually done across a table in an office somewhere with no audience.
Careful...facts will get you labelled as a bitter old woman hating on grown ah- ''kids.'' Or a "HYBE stan.'' 😂😂😂 I just hope they apologize if they return, i won't be supporting them eitherway it goes. And many ARMY dropped their support for ''BTS' (now orphaned) little sisters'' as well...
I've been called everything but a child of God lmao. It's expected at this point
They should have never been labeled that anyways - not even once. Maybe step sisters from a marriage that ended so long ago.. anyways 🤣 I hate they were marketed even a little bit like that.
Не стоит называть New Judas, сёстрами великих артистов,они ими никогда не были и не будут, они и артистами то по большому счету не стали. Вспомните как плохо Ханни играла в национальном собрании, костовщина и посмешище.
Finally. Ador has been caring for njs lives too much, they finally took action for their realisation.
I think they've been so nice so far even this is only about advertisers being warned to not even try making contracts with any of the group members, if they don't want to get in legal case with them.
For entertainment purposes only
ADOR will take the same position with any label that might be crazy enough to sign with New Jeans with the current drama.
Here's the basic business reality people have been pointing out. Until the legal situation is resolved, no one is going to touch them for fear of legal action from Hybe. Maybe the girls will win in the end, I've got no issue with that as I'm not particularly a fan of either NJ or any Hybe group, but the fact of the matter is even a win is a loss because of being on hiatus for a year or even longer.
Everyone knew that Hybe/Ador was not going to let this go without a legal fight. Even if everything NJ claims is true, they'd still need to prove it in court to have a shot at having the contract declared legally void.
No major agency would ever sign them after this. Not in a million years. An idol group that is only willing to work with one person and are attempting to abandon their legal contract? Nope, they're cooked.
This performance is so sad looking
Adore just straight up needs to sue them. After all this they still want to work with those witches......the audacity of them to go searching for brand deals...
They are children. As much as I am so extremely annoyed at how stupid or naive these kids are, they are still young. They gave them so much time and chances to think about this through but nothing worked. Unfortunately for them, this might be the end for them.
👍It Begins!💐Large, [Financial Draining]💐[Legal Expenses]!💐
Hanni's complaint of employee mistreatment rejected. MHJ's complaint against Hybe rejected. 2 losses in the court. Sign of times to come.
Ador is reasonable to take this action needless to say.
Imagine if Elon Musk decided to buy up the NewJeans group and MHJ and pay up all their penalties. For a Multibillionaire like Elon, this amount is peanuts. But in return, NewJeans are made the ambassadors for all of Elon’s products. With NewJeans’ global fame, this seems like a good deal.
😂😂 People are en masse boycotting Telsa cars because of Elon Musk... from the frying pan into the fire.
ador did warn them but yet those girls arent listening
How many more stupid choices will the NJ members make?
Actually they sabotaged themselves they had great potential to be the next big kpop act honestly they were bring back those 90s nostalgia with there own twist they were hybe most successful girl group it's too bad that the sabotaged there career for min her jin
This won’t last … I wonder how do old short handle things with mhj when they don’t agree with certain stuff. Because ain’t no way they are risking their career for this women who talked bad about them
K-pop management is horrible and controls should change. But it has worked for decades. These girls thought they're some trendsetter and hero, did their own thing not knowing anything. It's pure stupidity.
I agree hybe isn't the pure innocent best company but they are better from what I have heard about other companies secondly in this matter if nj willingly pushed themselves in between hybe and mhj they would have been safe and growing in there career
@@joyeetaghosh2209 way better than the big 3. I've been stanning since SuJu (ik im old lol) so i know Hybe seem insane and controlling but they're more humane than sm, jyp and yg. you can't "talk" there unless you "made it".
NJ is ignorant and stupid, that's all there is. I hate that they're creating so much noise, and now fans are "boycotting hybe and only supporting the groups" -ALSO STUPID, you need to support both or you will lose your group.
also, the "you can't talk there unless you made it" -you can talk, but they'll think about whether they'll listen to you.
Just this week, SM had SMTown event. They "forgot" to give the god Taeyeon a song to sing. Same issues with SuJu Yesung and RV Wendy. Those people have made it. But yet....
The Mess just keeps getting Messier
I am so sick of NJ, their egotistical, arrogant and narcissistic attitude along with their cult leader MHJ. They done too much damages and expected to come out clean of the mess they started in the first place. Really sick of their toxicity. They are all adults except hyein and should be held accountable for their actions. Stop infantizing and defending them. They aren't even that talented to be acting like an entitled diva.
If they turn this debacle into a k dtama, .. what would they call it ?? Ideas anyone ??
Rabid.
devil's dream
Riches to Rags
@lilmeowmeow9283 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Breaking free and now I'm broke.
As far as we know the question on the validity of the exclusive contracts between the members and ADOR has not been addressed by a SK court yet. Meaning all the comments you made in this video are purely hypothetical. From what has been published so far by the girls and ADOR it is highly unlikely that NJ unilateral termination will be upheld in court, and as long as this process is not over it is true that NJ should be extremely careful not to exacerbate their potential liability. The way I see it, the girls are extremely confident their termination will be upheld and they don't want to waste any time/money. But yes, it is a gamble, a very dangerous one to be honest.
😂 the whole validation of contract was just a soft option to get the NJ back to working rather than a lawsuit in the first instance, a warning shot, there is no question that the exclusive contract is valid, Ador are now taking the legal action that they could have taken in the beginning as these silly girls ignored the warning.
If this injunction was filed last week then that means these girls been knew about this and still are reckless wow they are gonna be in a firm stance all the way aren’t they
I used to feel sorry for them, but each appearance they made -- Hanni going to the National Assembly and her barely suppressed glee at the CEO's humiliation, Minji's pride in Hanni crying at the National Assembly, and the girls' disrespect of the reporters in their last press conference just led me to conclude that they are mean girls and it's hard to feel sorry for a mean girl. They believe they're better and smarter than everyone else like MHJ does. In fact, they're in cahoots with MHJ. I don't know what's in their minds, but I believe that MHJ is still following through with her 1945 plan. MHJ wants to make Ador an empty shell, to lose its value, so that she could acquire it for cheap, with investor backing. I believe she's offering more of a cut to NJs than they had when they were attached with HYBE, just like exect L had been promised if he went along with her machinations. He retracted his confession, but I believe he was honest the first time. NJs is tied to Ador through their contracts. It's easier and cheaper to acquire the company. I don't think NJs plan to go to court at all. I think they're stalling, letting Ador lose its value, hoping that Ador would give up before anything comes from the courts. It's a game of chicken for everyone involved. One that NJs probably feel is worth it, since they believe that HYBE "hates" them and that Bang has a personal illogical grudge against them.
There is no way that BSH would sell Ador to MHJ and especially for a bargain price, so if that was her plan it is dead in the water. Hybe owes 80% of the company so would have complete control over what happens to it. They can sustain it as a shell holding New Jeans contracts until they expire if they wanted to. The injunction would prevent New Jeans working elsewhere until the legal case is heard later this year. So it will be an impasse and deadlock for many months to come I expect with little room for twists and turns if the injunction is upheld as I expect.
god i love them, but this is it, it's over for them now
Об,ясните, в чем уникальность этих матрешек?
The new ceo joins n within a few days hanni went to NA n give that viral look... she don't know her but give her that look which is disrespectful... if she think "asking someone to ignore is bullying them what about her action.... i really felt bad for the ceo woman she just get a new post n doing her job with sincerity
Ador, pls let the girls keep digging themselves in the mud. Let them keep fooling, y stop or save them lol.
If newjeans end up crying in the court I’m not gonna help but let out a loud chuckle.
I love how Capital Victims keeps giving us new versions of Jeanz and their supposed talent lmaoo.
I've always been a very passive fan of NJ but all of this is making me actively dislike them lol. Like the group is just such a mess and I can NOT care to support them anymore
This girl,should seek help to mhj not hybe or ador,injuction make both party safe for breach...wise people will see what ador doing also favor njs...
Just pay $400 M and get free. Each members got paid 5M in two years. And hani claimed she poor worker filed a complaint to labor dept. And it got rejected.
@@donsilkco70 even if they all put in $5 million that still is way short of the 400 million which is only an estimate ... Higher or lower? Who knows. That's one of the reasons MHJ is trying to lessen the value of Ador as it would lower the penalty fee to buy them out.
NJ are just horrid people... MHJ is a munter.
NOOO NOT THIS SHIT IN THE BIG 2025 PLS-
*SIGH*
its ador fault they teachnus to be bias they are so loyal to heejin even if a member want to continue with ador they are forced not to bec its the group decision majority wins
😂😂 nope the contracts are individual, & I suspect that at least one member isn't happy with the direction things are going giving the leaking of the Telegraph messages.
New jeans dance have been so bad, last performance the wa not insynk at all
Now MHJ would want to become a kpop soloist
Jedna z wielu prawd z kim przestajesz takim się stajesz. Matka MHJ nauczyła je tego, co sama umiała czyli intrygi i manipulacji. Ale trudno uwierzyć, że osoby przyzwyczajone do luksusów i dużych pieniędzy mogą działać tak bezmyślnie. Za ich plecami musi stać wielki sponsor nienawidzący BSH, który osobistą wendetę robi ich rękami za co zapewne otrzymają gratyfikacje czyli otworzenie rynku chińskiego.
Industrija na kitajskem ne cveti več, polno je propadlih firm. Nasilje in korupcija pa se širi! Kitajska ni več dežela zlata! Bankrot kitajske je za vogalom.
Let NJ keep fooling around. Js more evidence for Ador 🤷🏽♀️
Honestly, i think they would have done well even if they stayed at Ador. I don't think the mistreatment would have continued after. I love these girls but im not happy with their decision. Coz look at the outcome. They would have done well still!
Free newjeans
Was the verdict on the MHJ case out? I thought it wasn't out yet, and this understanding is based on leaks by Dispatch. And also, this is all true on the stand that NJ doesn’t have any grounds to break away from the contract. Imagine there is, and all hell will break loose in the K-pop industry contracts. But how come everyone is already saying NJ lost? The verdict is not out yet that the contract is valid, and we don't know if they have an ace up their sleeve. I'm not saying they won't lose. But, without a proper verdict, this is nothing but trying to pull the audience to one side or trying to create a wave among the audience for generic support.
There was a ruling from the Seoul Regional Employment and Labor Office on January 13th that the "illegal audit" MHJ used as the basis of her claims against HYBE was not illegal. It came in the sexual harassment case brought against ADOR's "Executive A" and MHJ by "Employee B". Now that the audit has been ruled legal all of MHJ and NJ's claims will collapse like a house of cards.
It's already obvious from the start. Have you seen Minji and Hanni's live after the assembly?
The legality of the contract will not come to court for months I expect. Ador filed an injunction to stop New Jeans from working independently until the initial decision is reached. Note the word initial. Ador clearly expect the court case to go on and on with appeal after appeal before a final judgement is made. But the injunction only lasts until the first decision if granted. Further injunctions may be required after that. So it is stalemate at the moment with no one winning. Most people assume that Ador will win eventually including myself but nothing conclusive is likely to happen in the short term. This will be a long long drama.
@@peterhugo2078 I just feel the timing is very convenient on details like, let’s skip new in newillea -> NJ said they’d break free from ADOR -> ADOR doesn’t file any law suit immediately -> NJ members start getting brand contracts outside ADOR -> ADOR immediately files injunction to stop such brand deals -> SM launches new girl group.
Just imagine if launching this new girl group was the idea from the start and to do that they want to drop NJ, and NJ members found out and they tried to stop it by breaking free using clauses in contract from ADOR. ADOR left them alone as they’re still fulfilling projects pre-approved thinking they can’t do much after breaking free. But, as they’ve started getting deals and shows outside, ADOR immediately filed injunction so that the brand deals won’t go to NJ members but for the new group SM launching. This way, they keep profits from NJ, sabotage them, and yet get all the publicity by portraying themselves as trying to get hold of artists and stuff and also keep hold of the brand deals.
I hope this is all just in my head and not true. Because if it is anyway similar, that shows really dark world of K-pop. If not I hope all the best for the members for what to come.
@@suryabhai-j5q9j that would be dark indeed. But Ador are launching a new boy group not a girl group. They have only invited auditions for girls to apply for so a new girl group is a long way off.
Gfriend’s replacement group was the initial strategy by BSH for Source Music, who introduced girl auditions in 2019 to start the process. That is the only reason why Big Hit bought the company. Hybe didn’t even exist back then. He hired MJH as the best in the business with a proven track record second to none to mould the new group into a successful supergroup. But look how many years it took for that group to debut. Ador won’t be debuting a replacement girl group for a long time.
But things went horribly wrong for BSH when he started working with her and found her strong willed and uncooperative and unwilling to bend to his own thoughts about their concept. So he decided to allow her to go her own direction and funded Ador for her to follow her own path there. She was proven right in the end as she took a very ordinary batch of trainees, only one of which came from Source Music, and turned them into a supergroup. But she was unhappy with the rewards she was getting from the arrangement and was jealous of the many millions of dollars they were earning the company and Hybe. So she plotted about how to steal them away so she could keep most of their future earnings instead. New Jeans were brainwashed into believing that they were being mistreated which could not be farther from the truth. Try looking at GFriend if they want to know what real mistreatment feels like but they never walked away from their contract. But she was found out before she could put her plan in action and subsequent events spiralled out of control as she recruited New Jeans into fighting her battle for giving her leverage to demand her return. But everything snowballed afterwards until we get to the mess this currently is.
Every group is replaceable and BTS is a living proof of that
😂😂 oh the ignorant foolishness of that comment even during their military enlistment BTS have earned 60% of HYBE Sth Korea profits, and they have actually proven they can succeed as solo artists, which many other idols can not.
BTS members dominate charts, award shows despite military service
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Hanni..Will soon be in korea illegally. But she needs to stay in korea to go court. Better off stay in korea for holiday et no work dispute
No you can attend court via zoom or teleconference.
Hybe can keep trying 😂
Hybe are winning...
@ hybe is clearly losing 🤣
what are this comments......
I wonder if they are still in them million dollar dorms that hybe nd ador still pay for
Ni jih več! Upam, da bo Ador razkužil vse prostore kjer so se nahajali! Dobro bi bilo preveriti, če niso nastavili kakšne kamere ali mikrofone.
Spoiled Pampered kids
I went to school for marketing and advertising. My dissertation was on the future of e-marketing, which spoiler would revolve around B2B and C2C marketing. Anyways what i am trying to say is that to market anything would have to make sure as many people as possible would see it. The Advertiser are after your following. So do these girls think that advertisers would settle for their little IG page? No people want TV and UA-cam professional adverts billboards etc. And i am sure the girls want sponsors that they have been previously used to who pay the big bucks. Even if they get the small advertisers under the table that their " mamma" taught them was okay. Again, they even more don't want to be sued. If you want to do business with a Korean Act or an Act signed by an agency you have to go through them that is the law😂😂😂
Even if you want to be an influencer or IG star the bigger you get; the more national and international brands you have working with. Those people have things done through the law an agency.
Ps these girls are just cheapening their brand, how embarrassing to call up people directly
I wonder if the called up chanel or gucci and asked for the next round of money to enter into the account directly
Welp. Newjeans has made their bed, Ador is making them lay in it
Law makers please make sure that each brat member and their individual parents pay Ador!!! I am so fedup with these entitled brats and their parents. They are all independent "adults" and should know that their actions has consequences
In any case civil or other the court of public opinion can damage ADOR and HYPE more than the girls. These five young girls have become in the USA, Australia, and Europe almost as popular as AESPA, and Black Pink, and in a very short time, and that these pre-adults are being taken advantage of because of the political power of the Music industry in Korea wants to keep things as they are.
They signed a long term contract and thought they could just walk away from it. The music industry is very expensive; their success would have never happened without the many millions invested by Ador. They were a flash in the pan and will quickly be forgotten as it comes up to a year of virtually doing nothing. New girl group appear on the scene every year and many popular established ones. NJ were so new that they really were not well established. Takes time for things to work their way through court system but in the meantime more and more bad new comes out about MJN….she will not be there to support them and they have put everything on MJN.
Vaši možgani so kisli!
Facts!
Hmm.
I’m a big fan but this is too much. They really need a good lawyer 😢💔
I understand they were overworked and overwhelmed, putting their health in danger, but they still signed the dotted line.
Please be careful NJ🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤
It too much evidence and they lied many times. Only stup1d people who believe a claim without an evidence.
If you want to talk about having it hard was BTS, these young women were given everything on a silver platter from Hybe that BTS built.
@@kiak2971 I think the assumption they are given EVERYTHING is what really pisses off a lot of these fans to making the claims mhj did nothing wrong.
For sure they got a lawyer but still want to F things up😂
Less than 24 hours and another NJ video. Whats tag PR or Hybe paying you?????? Why do you only make NJ videos?????
Well they are most talked about you wanna call it pr then be it as if nj and mhj is not doing pr and media play
@joyeetaghosh2209 is there anything else going on in Kpop or only NJ news?
I mean it's what people are interested in right now it's pretty interesting to see how badly someone can mess up 😂😂
@@Drizz9078no, not as interesting as this apparently. Not even the removal of Taeil from NCT got this much traction, let alone attention. Wonder who buried that revelation so it wouldn’t be talked about for no longer than 5 minutes… 💭 *SM* 💭 plus this actual case will decide a lot for the future of contracts in kpop.. sooooooo yeah, people are gonna talk about it. A LOT.
They need to take a step back and let a adult take over, the girls were allowed to take control themselves and its clearly not working out.
It really is sad, I have a strong feeling that MHJ promised them something big or that there is more to this story. I’ve been trying to understand their perspective but ofc there’s more to the story we don’t know. Even before they spoke out hype wanted to put them on a 2 year hiatus (allegedly) and knowing hybe, if that had happened they would have gotten the formis9 treatment. I really believe if they had been there for NJ from the start we wouldn’t be here, now MHJ is taking them down with her. They didn’t show themselves to be reliable and left 5 minors (pre début NJ) in the hands of MHJ, all the adults that let this happen are to blame, Hybe, MHJ and especially their parents for indulging with MHJ’s BS. The problem here is the lack of protection and EDUCATION for young idols!
Min Heejin definitely promised them and their families a lot of things
hybe has a problem with all of its groups sales are down nj sales are down by 50 % from there debut alledgedly so this is advertising
Hybe posted a 300% increase in profit this quarter.
World would be nice place when army stop kissing Hybe Assess and dragging everyone like Hybe dragged every idol their Betty report where they even dragged and disrespecting some of their artists, stop pretending you are partially individual when you and rest of army try to defend Band PD and Hybe
Some people don't support either...MHJ AND NJ are wrong
"Their Betty report" was entirely written by people like you. It's a collection of your comments on the Internet. The world will be better if no comments full of hate be allowed.
Well I want ask a question I heard varat and enhypen and bts names tthere were negative comments about lsf ,illit , seventeen and enhypen if according to you if the report was for negative pr for the downfall of other groups why would there will be negative comments about there own company groups
Y’all use that dumbass internal report as if it actually matters. Worse shit is said by people like you on twitter every fucking hour - which is how they got those kinda comments. The personal opinions of the one making the report shouldn’t have been part of it and they’re gone now. Either way, it’s fucking irrelevant and other companies do the same, if not worse. You people only care cuz you already hate hybe. And hybe could certainly do better and given they’re only 4 years old as a company, they got plenty of time to straighten out.. SM and YG has had two fucking decades - what’s their excuse after all this time?????????????? Nothing good I’ll tell you that.
Too bad Hybe sabotaged them and it all led to this
Still blaming Hybe in 2025? You tokkis have a screw loose
Too bad MHJ started this before newjeans were even a thing and USED them to get what she wanted. Too bad but not so sad anymore. Also didn’t really get anything she planned so that’s a win for anybody tbh!
Lmao Ador is like an obsessive Ex
And NJ are the abusive self centered ex who claims to be done whilst constantly coming back when they want something.
time to grab the popcorn and watch the dramamamama unfold
The new ceo joins n within a few days hanni went to NA n give that viral look... she don't know her but give her that look which is disrespectful... if she think "asking someone to ignore is bullying them what about her action.... i really felt bad for the ceo woman she just get a new post n doing her job with sincerity