Kmpg os4 He likely said that because the thieves are the only ones in the world who can stop him. So if he can defeat the thieves, there would be nobody left to oppose his fake reality
@@awesomekidwithtoy Maybe, but he still gives wibes as if he was main character who is about to fight a final boss with everything on the line. He is not acting like a boss himself, high and mighty who thinks he will crush his foes lie flies. He understand his foes strength and even tries to reason with them. He sees his foes the same way they see him, as a final boss.
Izaak Cabacungan I mean the Investigation team isn’t particularly aware of what’s happened and it’s unknown if they could even summon their Personas in the metaverse
@Izaak Cabacungan I wont deny that the Metaverse and TV World are very similar so I won't deny they could use their Persona's and its possible maybe Yu might realize things are different like Joker did but at the same time, The IT wouldn't have any reason to know exactly whats happening or whats the cause. They'd have less then a day to realize something's wrong, find out its coming from Shibuya, find out its from Maruki's palace, infiltrate the palace, and then fight and defeat him. If they can't do that in that one day, Maruki would fully merge the worlds and as Lavenza said, it would be near impossible to stop him at that point. This is all would especially be hard because considering P5 takes place several years later, the IT likely wouldn't be anywhere near as strong as when they fought Izanami because they hadn't fought for years.
@Izaak Cabacungan That is a fair point that they'd get a bit refreshed thanks to getting the palace to wear off the rust but there is still one big problem mainly being if they had to fight through the palace they'd likely be incredibly exhausted by the time they reached Maruki. This is especially true because while the IT are experienced, palaces are still super different then anywhere they been in the TV world so not only do they not know all the mechanics of it but they're also not a very stealthy group so by having to get through the palace AND fight Maruki they have even more of a disadvantage then the thieves because they'd be exhausted. I don't want to completely count out the IT and say it be impossible but aside from just how long it would take to even discover everything about Maruki they're at a heavy disadvantage.
would be cool if you slowly dissect Adam Kadmon, like tearing apart Marukis reality bit by bit making his autistic screech have more punch. And it wouldve been a good chance to make the boss even more autistically chunk since i overprepped the boss tbh.
@@Violetenist yeah I maxed out all the baton passes and made everyone level 99. Thankfully the boss was still fucking tough as hell, more than a few close calls, but the hardest part was thinking up big brain strats
And I believe you summoned your power like this: Persona... That is a a fucking ICONIC line holy shit I love everything about that so damn much. It’s just so intimidating and the way the screen distorts when he does it just makes the delivery so much better
I thought the final portion of the battle was truly breathtaking and heartbreaking and honestly could have gone on for longer. You're no longer a god fighting a god with immense power. You're just punching a man. And he's punching back. No magic. No weapons. No personas. Just fists, tears, and shouting. I wish more games did this. You're usually super powerful at the end at the game, but you get basically a glorified cutscene to show that in reality, you're just a human fighting another human. It tells a story through gameplay, something seldom done but is seldom weak.
Metal Gear really sold me on the simple, but powerful, fist fights at the end of it all idea. I absolutely loved Maruki as an antagonist (Can’t even really call him all that much of a villain honestly) because he feels like Yaldabaoth, but done in a much more understandable and agreeable way.
I just fucking lost it when they started fist fighting. I cried endlessly and I just didn’t want to hit Maruki. Such a masterful sequence. The Pinnacle of Villain Storytelling.
I did to but at the same time I had to remember he wanted me to do it cause he wished to finally be rid of his doubts and thought that was the only way to do it
@@NintendoSegaandHasbroFan I like to see it as a nice callback to Yosuke in Persona 4. In his last social link, he ask to be punched to erase any doubt he has. Sometimes you need to punch someone multiple times to help them erase doubt.
they fight for what reality they believe in. When maruki said "a reality where no one suffer", i don't know what to say. 1: you accept his reality-> fake reality ending 2: you refuse and fight for it -> you live in the true reality but it's already has a lot of fake so what is the right choose here
The first time I played through this, I couldn't keep myself together. The entire end of the game was emotional, even rewatching it still brings those emotions back. Billy Kametz did an extraodinary job as Maruki's english VA. Rest in Peace Billy Kametz, No more tears shall drop from your cheeks anymore.
Actually, now that I think about it, this is the first time we’ve had a true final boss fight in these games that puts us against another persona user. Usually it’s always against some deity, devil, or powerful manifestation created by the collective unconsciousness of humanity. But here, the final boss isn’t some unfathomable god like being, just another person whose awakened to the power of the arcana just like us, who simply wishes to fix the world in the way they believe it should be fixed, regardless of how misguided that way may seem to be.
Megami Ibunroku Persona’s final boss was Takehisa Kandori and his “Persona,” Nyarlathotep, then God Kandori when Nyarlathotep fused with him. Basically 1 to 1 with this
The final boss song, Throw Away Your Mask, is sang from Maruki's perspective as all he wanted you to live free of sadness and pain by living in a false paradise, but he himself got twisted in the process. This is the best Persona final boss after Nyx and Izanami.
Honestly though. Sure yaldabaoth was cool and all but that really was a plot we've seen before and though it was well done it really did miss some of that flare besides satanel being awakened. But in royal we see a man wanting to save people get corrupted and blinded with a gift to do so and the powers of a god, and while not evil he still needed to be stopped otherwise he would have gone on a path that yaldabaoth tried.
@@anonymousgeek8633 except that Maruki succeeded more than Yaldabaoth did. Sure Yaldabaoth defeated Igor, and the velvet room. However he had full control over the Velvet room, and reality more than just human cognition. He basically got rid of a large portion of Nyx's power, and under his reality Minato was likely revived, and Nyx was probably sealed by his own power alone to stop her, and death.
@@KraNisOG Then in that case, due to what Maruki did, the next time Elizabeth offs Erebus, it could very well be the last time but considering she became a Wild Card user the final fight with Erebus might not be as easy as her previous fights with him were.
@@mrk1395 he is, because despite what he believed was good, was wrong. It was just a multilayered villain, not plain simple one. In his reality people are brainwashed mass that lost their free will and identity, which is disturbing to watch in Marukis bad ending. He admits that he was wrong when he is a cab driver. He didn't need to cure humanity, but himself and that's what PTs do when they beat him. After that, Maruki can finally move on from what happened to Rumi, that's what he needed.
While I love adachi and strega Maruki is the best villain and he does intact have the best boss music. Keep your faith and Throw away your mask are amazing.
I was actually surprised that they didn't have Joker just pull Satanael outta nowhere. I was kinda expecting it like how Arsene appeared in Sae's palace or when breaking the chain. Honestly though, I'm glad they didn't as to show Joker is versatile and can win without having a trump card in his backpocket. Although I love how he still had to end it with his gun.
@@nightlypiano41 Joker: Now that you've shown me your's, I'll show you mine. Futaba: *blushing* A-all right guys, this isn't a persona measuring contest. Just hurry up and win.
@@peynnep6483 It's not in Joker's personality to do that lmao. Besides, all of his friends already did the spiel of the friendship thing literally right before that
@@blank-hf9ny A cameo character (and notoriously hard boss) from Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne. He has his own game series, and we can credit his fully voiced cameo in Nocturne for having turned him into the non-silent character he is from the third game onwards.
Ngl the second form was one of the easiest fights in the game although after the last phase, I’m definitely not complaining. Overall this is the best boss fight in the game
I'll have to disagree with you, I think the music and fight is not really fitting of a final boss. Maruki's fight (before the glorified cutscene part) is just based on chain attacks and that's it, you literally cannot fail unless you do it on purpose, it's way too damn easy. Yalbadaoth had a stronger more menacing music and was a bit more of a challenge (as he should be since he's a god). And finally, this fight doesn't have the powerful feeling Satanael's summoning gave to the fight against the god of control... Overall, not a bad fight, just not as good as all the creshendo from the Holy Grail to Yalbadaoth.
@@yaldabaoth4807 The music is not fitting for a final boss but it IS fitting for Marukis character imo. Throw away your mask is basically Maruki persuading the thieves to give up and enjoy his reality. Also the first phase was easy for me, second phase was bit of a challenge, third I almost died once, and the fourth phase with Adom is literally impossible to die on.
Yeah lots of people dont like that about it but for me I'm kinda more into games like this for the story, more than the gameplay (i love the gameplay though lol)
Even after most of us wanted a happy ending like in the original Persona 5, Maruki's last line to the Joker encloses the result of the catharsis in which everything you carried just went away. "If you find yourself struggling in life... you can start over, like me." Gosh... what an indulgent moment. I'm so grateful that this piece of art exists. I do think this game is a therapeutic experience and I'm glad it has a large fan community. Phantom Thieves exist while we follow their example. Hugs to all of you Phantom Legacy.
Maruki had the right idea, though. Yes, overcoming hardships makes people stronger, but some people legitimately do not have the strength to carry on. Maruki could keep his secondary reality, but just let the original exist as normal. His Palace could just be the gateway to his reality, an escape for those who don't have the strength. After having lost my special someone indirectly to Covid almost a year ago, I'd gladly take that escape if it meant I could see her again. On another note, I like how some people have headcanoned that, in the aftermath of 5R, Maruki did get Rumi back. The best thing is that nothing can really contradict this. With Azathoth gone, all the changes he made went with him, which meant Rumi would be back to her original self. I imagine that once she was emotionally stable again, she likely contacted Maruki to make sure he was alright.
Still miffed by Azathoth, since in Lovecraft lore he's the father of Nyarlathotep and several other beings, and despite Nyarly being the big bad of the first two Persona games, here Azzy is just a rogue Persona. Not the first time something like that happens (the Persona 4 Arena comes to mind), but i still think it kinda sucks. At least they brought back Adam Kadmon, who's only other appearance was on the Japanese Xbox only Shin Megani Tensei NINE.
Azathtoth is oblivious of the reality he created, since Maruki wishes to make a world were everyone is unware of tragedy and oblivious to death, its realy fitting. And for what its worth Maruki essentialy becomes Nyarlethotep, he almost becomes a god and even looks pharaoh like when in battle
I do find it interesting that his persona has kinda gone rampant to a degree though - But i wonder if that's simply because he let his ideals consume him? Like Joker and co. Worked towards what they believe so the persona's changed in response to them - But Maruki seems to have changed in response to his persona, so i wonder if that's any indication as to why its so... weird?
@@brimstonesulfur5013 I would say that he did succeed in becoming a God, but Jokers rebellion was too strong, and same with Akechi's. He just made the mistake of bringing back Futaba's mom, which triggered Akechi, and Joker. He very much was probably the most powerful, or second my most powerful boss in Persona, in his reality Nyx would be so utterly weak that it isn't even funny, and not even Philemon is present if I recall.
Story-wise: Absolutely phenomenal!! Gameplay at the very end: Kinda lacking... I was kinda hoping for a Satanael Reappearance to finish this one last job, or have JOKER fuse with Satanael like how Maruki fused with Adam Kadmon. Am I asking too much? Overall though Im SUPER satisfied with the ending either way!! Story outweighs the gameplay on this ending.
Glad they didn’t as it he would’ve been a bit over played and thematically inconsistent. Maruki is simple man, not a misbehaving god. Besides, the one on one fist fight more the than makes up for it.
I was wondering why the voice was familiar Dr. Maruki's Voice Actor Billy Kametz also voices Naofumi Iwatani(Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari) and (I remember correctly) Josuke Higashikata(JJBA)
It usually is a god behind everything in Persona games. Atleast for the last 3 that is. It always starts off as some douchebag kicking off the plot only to reveal some god was the whole reason for it all.
@@destroyerblackdragon it was a god behind the events of the first game but you don't fight him, however, that god is also behind the events of the 2 duology and you do get to fight him there
The first time I played this I swore this part was gonna play out in a similar aspect to Persona 3 where the persona 5 main character was about to sacrifice himself for his pals… I know maybe it sounds silly in hind site but with how the whole game played out and how that scene played out, it was an in the moment thing
Well it might be, Kandori also let himself be controlled by his persona for the sake of power, it's cool to see this kind of stuff happening in modern persona games as well I missed it
I'm glad this boss sequence was all in at the first fight. Everything else was just surviving. Started realizing it around Adam Kadmon glow up that I could actually breath. If they made every single one of those encounters including the manly slugfest a full fight, that would have been a real drag.
The Phantom Thieves. A group of teenagers but pretty intimidating when you put into mind these “kids” took down a olympic athlete corrupting a school, a whole art money scandal, a mob boss, a corrupt lawyer, The CEO of a corrupt organization, the to be prime minister, and a personification of a god, and traversed the entirety of the cognitive underground, now you Maruki stand here with knowledge of the cognitive world in hopes of beating this team of Tricksters. As powerful as he is, it must have been pretty nerve racking seeing the Phantom Thieves progress throughout the time.
I’m kinda surprised you didn’t make use of Haru’s life wall skill. It costs zero sp if you do a full baton pass. And the attacks Maruki sends at you gets reflected and deals good damage to Azatoth. But you’re still impressive though!
@@arctohru Indeed, He is the English voice of Naofumi Iwatani aside Ferdinand Von Aegir, which makes him getting a Best Male Dub VA Award by Crunchyroll.
@@anonymousgeek8633 well. This guy is more powerful than Nyx, and "the will to die." He likely revived Minato (because he didnt sent hardships and stuff like that, and the p3 group was basically devastated when Door-kun died.) And either defeated Nyx, killed Nyx, or sealed Nyx with a fraction of his power. He had complete domain, and mastery over reality, and people, more absolutely than Yaldabaoth did.
@@KraNisOG I wouldn't say that. Since don't forget all Shadows/Personas come from Nyx, including Adam Kadmon/Azathoth. There are no Persona stronger than Nyx because they originally are apart of her psyche. What's far more likely to have happen is that The events of Persona 3 simply never happened, if people never wished for the fall, Nyx never awakens amd Erebus is never formed.
@@thatoneguyintheback5095 as described in game he has the ABSOLUTE ability to rewrite reality to his will, and does so. He doesn't know they come from Nyx, and as he knows about those events he simply gets rid of Nyx, and to him he believed the other events would be normal, and so they were. It is 100% possible to be more powerful than your creator. Philemon and Nylar are both creates from humans, but they're deffinatly more powerful than a human.
@Rastalov manipulative seems to evil for maruki. I don't think he's trying to be manipulative but still comes off that way telling them how their lives can be better if they just allowed him to complete the merging of mementos and the real world.
![JOKER IS THE *HARDEST* BOSS IN PERSONA HISTORY! [HEARTLESS]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-wyEB8aKcg4/mqdefault.jpg)
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Our finale battle has come
I find it ironic that from his perspective, we are the final boss.
Kmpg os4 He likely said that because the thieves are the only ones in the world who can stop him. So if he can defeat the thieves, there would be nobody left to oppose his fake reality
@@awesomekidwithtoy Maybe, but he still gives wibes as if he was main character who is about to fight a final boss with everything on the line.
He is not acting like a boss himself, high and mighty who thinks he will crush his foes lie flies. He understand his foes strength and even tries to reason with them. He sees his foes the same way they see him, as a final boss.
Izaak Cabacungan I mean the Investigation team isn’t particularly aware of what’s happened and it’s unknown if they could even summon their Personas in the metaverse
@Izaak Cabacungan I wont deny that the Metaverse and TV World are very similar so I won't deny they could use their Persona's and its possible maybe Yu might realize things are different like Joker did but at the same time, The IT wouldn't have any reason to know exactly whats happening or whats the cause. They'd have less then a day to realize something's wrong, find out its coming from Shibuya, find out its from Maruki's palace, infiltrate the palace, and then fight and defeat him. If they can't do that in that one day, Maruki would fully merge the worlds and as Lavenza said, it would be near impossible to stop him at that point. This is all would especially be hard because considering P5 takes place several years later, the IT likely wouldn't be anywhere near as strong as when they fought Izanami because they hadn't fought for years.
@Izaak Cabacungan That is a fair point that they'd get a bit refreshed thanks to getting the palace to wear off the rust but there is still one big problem mainly being if they had to fight through the palace they'd likely be incredibly exhausted by the time they reached Maruki. This is especially true because while the IT are experienced, palaces are still super different then anywhere they been in the TV world so not only do they not know all the mechanics of it but they're also not a very stealthy group so by having to get through the palace AND fight Maruki they have even more of a disadvantage then the thieves because they'd be exhausted. I don't want to completely count out the IT and say it be impossible but aside from just how long it would take to even discover everything about Maruki they're at a heavy disadvantage.
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Two drunk lads in a parking lot
2 harem protagonists getting some issues of their chests
Ren won because he moved past from saving the world to saving "his" world
I was thinking metal gear solid 4 final final boss fight..
@@cactusmann5542 Snake: LIQUIIIIID!!!!
Liquid: SNAAAAAAAAKE!!!
@@jaggerjackize Ren:MARRRRUKIIIII
Maruki: AMMAAMIYAAA
I really wish they didn't mocap that, it sorta looked dumb
I'd like to thank Ferdinand Von Aegir, his performance for Maruki was incredible.
sorry, thank who again? didnt quite catch that name
Don’t forget Josuke Higashikata
Fe three houses
You're welcome
@@cherno6415 Shoot. I thought he was played by Joker's VA like how Adachi and Nyx were voiced by the protagonist of their respective games.
When he says the line, “I’d regret not pointing this out to you, but you shouldn’t mistake our powers as being equal” how right he was about that
Me: your right, our power far exceeds yours
@@demarcoramos4041 me with a broke inOP
Me (immediately going for max focus Myriads of Truths): Are you sure about that?!
47:10 Alright, Akechi may not be my favorite character but i just adore this line lol
Agreed, it’s so in character and shows he’s not one to say a this is why I fight speech like everyone else did.
NexusShack I love how he goes berserk momentarily as he screams “JOB”
when you the 68th like: “I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess”
also, yeah I really like Maruki. He might even be as good as Adachi
akechi is my favourite character and this line made me fall in love with him all over again
How could Akechi not be your favorite?
This boss is leagues better than Yaldabaoth, although I am a little disappointed Adam Kadmon was little more than a glorified cutscene.
Yeah the last part was kinda disappointing.
@@anonymousgeek8633 yeah I do too but that would've killed Maruki
Ch1l1C0nCarnag3 disappointed??? Eh wouldn’t say that , maybe not fully satisfied due to the miss opportunity of summoning sataneal .
would be cool if you slowly dissect Adam Kadmon, like tearing apart Marukis reality bit by bit making his autistic screech have more punch. And it wouldve been a good chance to make the boss even more autistically chunk since i overprepped the boss tbh.
@@Violetenist yeah I maxed out all the baton passes and made everyone level 99. Thankfully the boss was still fucking tough as hell, more than a few close calls, but the hardest part was thinking up big brain strats
"Checkmate."
N U T
*PHAT NUT*
Joker: Checkmate-
Dante: *JACKPOT*
That's why he gain The World.
*_GAME!_*
Yo waddup door-kun?
And I believe you summoned your power like this: Persona...
That is a a fucking ICONIC line holy shit I love everything about that so damn much. It’s just so intimidating and the way the screen distorts when he does it just makes the delivery so much better
*messes it up* "uh... one second."
Iconic
FACTS THAT LINE SENT SHIVERS DOWN MY SPINE AND STILL DOES!
The final boss fight is badass
IKR, it still blows my mind that if don't do Maruki's confidant, you wouldn't be able to do the final palace
@@GoldenBoy-lv1jg I just did Maruki confidant for the bonus SP I had now idea it would lead to this
@@victormontes7007 Me neither, i learned it from someone
@@GoldenBoy-lv1jg Also because of Maruki I will never be able to trust a doctor or anyone in a lab coat again
@@Dylan-yb7kf she passes cause all she wants to do is help but Maruki wanted to get his name out there
I thought the final portion of the battle was truly breathtaking and heartbreaking and honestly could have gone on for longer.
You're no longer a god fighting a god with immense power. You're just punching a man. And he's punching back. No magic. No weapons. No personas. Just fists, tears, and shouting.
I wish more games did this. You're usually super powerful at the end at the game, but you get basically a glorified cutscene to show that in reality, you're just a human fighting another human. It tells a story through gameplay, something seldom done but is seldom weak.
Metal Gear really sold me on the simple, but powerful, fist fights at the end of it all idea. I absolutely loved Maruki as an antagonist (Can’t even really call him all that much of a villain honestly) because he feels like Yaldabaoth, but done in a much more understandable and agreeable way.
Metal Gear Solid 4 and Red Dead Redemption 2 did this as well.
Yakuza: LAD did this too!
Lost Judgment moment
Yakuza Like a Dragon final boss moment
God something about Maruki’s voice is so charming, both in ENG and Japanese. No wonder why all the high school girls swoon him.
When i first saw him, he reminded me of simon from alvin and the chipmunks. I still don’t know why but it’s probably the glasses
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Akechi looks like he's ready to go cut Joker's grapple in half
I just fucking lost it when they started fist fighting. I cried endlessly and I just didn’t want to hit Maruki.
Such a masterful sequence. The Pinnacle of Villain Storytelling.
I did to but at the same time I had to remember he wanted me to do it cause he wished to finally be rid of his doubts and thought that was the only way to do it
@@NintendoSegaandHasbroFan I like to see it as a nice callback to Yosuke in Persona 4. In his last social link, he ask to be punched to erase any doubt he has. Sometimes you need to punch someone multiple times to help them erase doubt.
Maruki better go to jail for hitting a minor
they fight for what reality they believe in. When maruki said "a reality where no one suffer", i don't know what to say.
1: you accept his reality-> fake reality ending
2: you refuse and fight for it -> you live in the true reality but it's already has a lot of fake
so what is the right choose here
RIP Billy Kametz. No one can replace you as Maruki
“...I gave up EVERYTHING!... EVERYTHING!!!” Shit hurts dude...
Why does maruki looks like he is about to stop time and toss oil tanker at them?
Maruki: I'll show you my personas true power. ADAM KADMON ZA WARUDO!
I like where your head's at, but the way he slicks back his hair is so Aizen from Bleach lmao
@@Blue5656565656 I like calling him Apple Juice Aizen lmao.
They have a lot in common besides just the hair.
ROAD ROLLER DA
Cuz youre part of a cancerous fandom thst brings their shit and starts the jojo tumor where it shouldnt
The first time I played through this, I couldn't keep myself together. The entire end of the game was emotional, even rewatching it still brings those emotions back. Billy Kametz did an extraodinary job as Maruki's english VA.
Rest in Peace Billy Kametz,
No more tears shall drop from your cheeks anymore.
🙏🙏🙏
It’s a masterpiece of an ending
It is kind of funny i find how Maruki 's punchs give more damages than Joker's punch when he said violence wasn't his thing huhu
Maruki's also a grown ass man punching a highschooler
Joker was probably holding back, yes he was fatigued but he has much more experience than Maruki with the whole Metaverse thing
Tempest Rex
A punch is still a punch even if it’s amplified in strength by the metaverse
@@sovietonion._.3888 Even if? You mean especially?
Pelcogo
Sorry grammar police
My favorite part of this video is you had all your party members near dead or totally dead and then you start resetting your whole party.
Pretty much what i did ;_;
8:33 - I've got to commend you for teaching me this Maruki (For real, Joker escaping from dizziness twice)
lesson: drink detox in the cognitive world, not the real world
It’s very ironic when you remember that it was actually Maruki’s confidant rank that gave him that ability in the first place.
Actually, now that I think about it, this is the first time we’ve had a true final boss fight in these games that puts us against another persona user. Usually it’s always against some deity, devil, or powerful manifestation created by the collective unconsciousness of humanity.
But here, the final boss isn’t some unfathomable god like being, just another person whose awakened to the power of the arcana just like us, who simply wishes to fix the world in the way they believe it should be fixed, regardless of how misguided that way may seem to be.
Megami Ibunroku Persona’s final boss was Takehisa Kandori and his “Persona,” Nyarlathotep, then God Kandori when Nyarlathotep fused with him. Basically 1 to 1 with this
The final boss song, Throw Away Your Mask, is sang from Maruki's perspective as all he wanted you to live free of sadness and pain by living in a false paradise, but he himself got twisted in the process. This is the best Persona final boss after Nyx and Izanami.
Honestly though. Sure yaldabaoth was cool and all but that really was a plot we've seen before and though it was well done it really did miss some of that flare besides satanel being awakened. But in royal we see a man wanting to save people get corrupted and blinded with a gift to do so and the powers of a god, and while not evil he still needed to be stopped otherwise he would have gone on a path that yaldabaoth tried.
@@anonymousgeek8633 except that Maruki succeeded more than Yaldabaoth did. Sure Yaldabaoth defeated Igor, and the velvet room. However he had full control over the Velvet room, and reality more than just human cognition. He basically got rid of a large portion of Nyx's power, and under his reality Minato was likely revived, and Nyx was probably sealed by his own power alone to stop her, and death.
@@KraNisOG Then in that case, due to what Maruki did, the next time Elizabeth offs Erebus, it could very well be the last time but considering she became a Wild Card user the final fight with Erebus might not be as easy as her previous fights with him were.
I’d even put this above Izanami
Nyx is definitely the best from the final bosses 3-5 but I think Maruki is second best.
Just beat him today. He’s by far the best "villain" imo, best palace(also imo), and all accompanied with this good ass music (this is a fact).
He's like the exact opposite of Adachi.
I think villains should be evil and very malevolent and maruki isnt any one of them he is more like a mad person.....not a villain
It is a fact. This is the best villain I have seen yet. Now this is a true battle of ideology, Freedom or Happiness
@@mrk1395 he is, because despite what he believed was good, was wrong. It was just a multilayered villain, not plain simple one.
In his reality people are brainwashed mass that lost their free will and identity, which is disturbing to watch in Marukis bad ending.
He admits that he was wrong when he is a cab driver. He didn't need to cure humanity, but himself and that's what PTs do when they beat him.
After that, Maruki can finally move on from what happened to Rumi, that's what he needed.
While I love adachi and strega Maruki is the best villain and he does intact have the best boss music. Keep your faith and Throw away your mask are amazing.
54:18 ["Old Snake" (from MGS4 OST) intensifies]
Me: “Oh man I can’t wait to fight maruki! This should be a great fight
Also me: “I’ve been listening to this music for 3 hours.”
I was actually surprised that they didn't have Joker just pull Satanael outta nowhere. I was kinda expecting it like how Arsene appeared in Sae's palace or when breaking the chain. Honestly though, I'm glad they didn't as to show Joker is versatile and can win without having a trump card in his backpocket. Although I love how he still had to end it with his gun.
"Nice Persona. I have one just like it."
@@nightlypiano41
Joker: Now that you've shown me your's, I'll show you mine.
Futaba: *blushing* A-all right guys, this isn't a persona measuring contest. Just hurry up and win.
@@pyroronpa HA!
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I really wanted Joker to say Jackpot.
be happy he didn't just stand there for 10 hours giving a speech about how great and important friendship is
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@@peynnep6483 It's not in Joker's personality to do that lmao. Besides, all of his friends already did the spiel of the friendship thing literally right before that
@@liljon042 "personality". If you can even call it that.
@@blank-hf9ny A cameo character (and notoriously hard boss) from Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne.
He has his own game series, and we can credit his fully voiced cameo in Nocturne for having turned him into the non-silent character he is from the third game onwards.
Ngl the second form was one of the easiest fights in the game although after the last phase, I’m definitely not complaining. Overall this is the best boss fight in the game
I'll have to disagree with you, I think the music and fight is not really fitting of a final boss. Maruki's fight (before the glorified cutscene part) is just based on chain attacks and that's it, you literally cannot fail unless you do it on purpose, it's way too damn easy. Yalbadaoth had a stronger more menacing music and was a bit more of a challenge (as he should be since he's a god). And finally, this fight doesn't have the powerful feeling Satanael's summoning gave to the fight against the god of control... Overall, not a bad fight, just not as good as all the creshendo from the Holy Grail to Yalbadaoth.
@@yaldabaoth4807 The music is not fitting for a final boss but it IS fitting for Marukis character imo. Throw away your mask is basically Maruki persuading the thieves to give up and enjoy his reality. Also the first phase was easy for me, second phase was bit of a challenge, third I almost died once, and the fourth phase with Adom is literally impossible to die on.
Yeah lots of people dont like that about it but for me I'm kinda more into games like this for the story, more than the gameplay (i love the gameplay though lol)
The emotion for these final battles drives it to heights thats whats persona is about 💟
Even after most of us wanted a happy ending like in the original Persona 5, Maruki's last line to the Joker encloses the result of the catharsis in which everything you carried just went away. "If you find yourself struggling in life... you can start over, like me." Gosh... what an indulgent moment.
I'm so grateful that this piece of art exists. I do think this game is a therapeutic experience and I'm glad it has a large fan community. Phantom Thieves exist while we follow their example. Hugs to all of you Phantom Legacy.
Maruki had the right idea, though. Yes, overcoming hardships makes people stronger, but some people legitimately do not have the strength to carry on. Maruki could keep his secondary reality, but just let the original exist as normal. His Palace could just be the gateway to his reality, an escape for those who don't have the strength. After having lost my special someone indirectly to Covid almost a year ago, I'd gladly take that escape if it meant I could see her again.
On another note, I like how some people have headcanoned that, in the aftermath of 5R, Maruki did get Rumi back. The best thing is that nothing can really contradict this. With Azathoth gone, all the changes he made went with him, which meant Rumi would be back to her original self. I imagine that once she was emotionally stable again, she likely contacted Maruki to make sure he was alright.
47:56 Joker: Checkmate
52:09 I feel the pain of the poor akechu
51:50 as the bus is a reference to "My neighborhour Totoro", is this a reference to "Doraemon"
probably not
This boss lives RENT FREE in my mind. Easily the greatest Antagonist of any video game in recent memory
Well said ^
34:47 So is somebody gonna call the Scout Regiment? Because the Colossal Titan looks like he just got off an episode of "Pimp my Ride".
47:57 'Checkmate'
*ATK/DEF/Accuracy/Evasion down!*
43:59 “AND HERE COMES THE GIANT FIST!”
*PATRICK NOO!!!!*
Oh...AND THEN THE GIANT FIST
Rest in peace billy. You voiced mauraki perfectly.
Throw away your mask is such a bop
The saddest final boss theme is epic
Bruh we got throw away your mask and I believe for this bossfight like goddamn
47:57
Checkmate
*JACKPOT*
wait wrong game
Man when joker said begone I was almost dead but now hearing checkmate I am dead
Joker and Maruki just hitting each other kinda reminds me of Yosuke's social link when he asks Yu to hit him
Still miffed by Azathoth, since in Lovecraft lore he's the father of Nyarlathotep and several other beings, and despite Nyarly being the big bad of the first two Persona games, here Azzy is just a rogue Persona.
Not the first time something like that happens (the Persona 4 Arena comes to mind), but i still think it kinda sucks. At least they brought back Adam Kadmon, who's only other appearance was on the Japanese Xbox only Shin Megani Tensei NINE.
still thematically fitting imo
isn't Azathoth's whole gist that he's where everything in reality begins and ends?
Azathtoth is oblivious of the reality he created, since Maruki wishes to make a world were everyone is unware of tragedy and oblivious to death, its realy fitting. And for what its worth Maruki essentialy becomes Nyarlethotep, he almost becomes a god and even looks pharaoh like when in battle
I do find it interesting that his persona has kinda gone rampant to a degree though - But i wonder if that's simply because he let his ideals consume him? Like Joker and co. Worked towards what they believe so the persona's changed in response to them - But Maruki seems to have changed in response to his persona, so i wonder if that's any indication as to why its so... weird?
I was wondering why those tentacles were giving me nyarlathotep vibes then he reveals his persona and it just clicks.
@@brimstonesulfur5013 I would say that he did succeed in becoming a God, but Jokers rebellion was too strong, and same with Akechi's. He just made the mistake of bringing back Futaba's mom, which triggered Akechi, and Joker. He very much was probably the most powerful, or second my most powerful boss in Persona, in his reality Nyx would be so utterly weak that it isn't even funny, and not even Philemon is present if I recall.
The power of friendship always gets me.
Story-wise: Absolutely phenomenal!!
Gameplay at the very end: Kinda lacking...
I was kinda hoping for a Satanael Reappearance to finish this one last job, or have JOKER fuse with Satanael like how Maruki fused with Adam Kadmon. Am I asking too much? Overall though Im SUPER satisfied with the ending either way!! Story outweighs the gameplay on this ending.
Unpopular opinion but I don’t like satanael that much
It's like asmr
Gameplay was actually cool with exploiting weakness and baton passes. And also not Satanael, Raoul would be the one.
I see what your saying but at the same time how would joker be able to summon Satanael, he only summons it in the original with the public’s support
Glad they didn’t as it he would’ve been a bit over played and thematically inconsistent. Maruki is simple man, not a misbehaving god. Besides, the one on one fist fight more the than makes up for it.
I was wondering why the voice was familiar Dr. Maruki's Voice Actor Billy Kametz also voices Naofumi Iwatani(Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari) and (I remember correctly) Josuke Higashikata(JJBA)
Adam Kadmon looks like a Terminator in armor
Terminator over heaven
I like how even tho the finale boss in Persona 5 was god and in P5R it's a human, P5R's finale boss is way better in everyway
Cuz it's not a godly being that looks down on humans and is some human who just wants to help but in a big forceful way?
It usually is a god behind everything in Persona games. Atleast for the last 3 that is. It always starts off as some douchebag kicking off the plot only to reveal some god was the whole reason for it all.
To be fair this guy kinda becomes a god doesn't he?
@@destroyerblackdragon it was a god behind the events of the first game but you don't fight him, however, that god is also behind the events of the 2 duology and you do get to fight him there
You can now play as Luigi.
54:00 who actually chose the very well option? It is the goofiest shit to say to a friend in need.
I'll be the first to say this here:
Delete Evil Smile.
Bruv just get insta-heal
It was so annoying I had a round where my entire team was paralysed with fear.
and then there's that insta death skill
*laughs in Amrita Shower*
The first time I played this I swore this part was gonna play out in a similar aspect to Persona 3 where the persona 5 main character was about to sacrifice himself for his pals… I know maybe it sounds silly in hind site but with how the whole game played out and how that scene played out, it was an in the moment thing
So basically: azathoth is p1 thanatos while adam kadmon is god kandori
Is it intentional, atlus?
More like Azathoth is P1 Nyarlathotep. You're right about Adam though.
Well it might be, Kandori also let himself be controlled by his persona for the sake of power, it's cool to see this kind of stuff happening in modern persona games as well I missed it
52:41 "CHRIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSS!!!"
Blitzeo Arts lol I thought the same thing
Maruki with Azathoth: Please reconsider, I don’t want to hurt you!
Maruki with Adam Kadmon: *doom music starts to play*
In the memory of Billy Kametz
I'm glad this boss sequence was all in at the first fight. Everything else was just surviving. Started realizing it around Adam Kadmon glow up that I could actually breath. If they made every single one of those encounters including the manly slugfest a full fight, that would have been a real drag.
Umm, Dr. Maruki. Elton John, just called, he wants his outfit back. ;)
Imagine that final shot was a little off, either missing Maruki entirely or killing him
I loved everything about this until morgana decided to turn into a helicopter
Vinegar Doppio but that was the best part!
ZZZ Kun but how did the mad lad do it
Vinegar Doppio he just BELIEVED
@@Epikkugema power of Jose's star, I believe it can alter cognition to a certain extent if the user believe it's possible
@@peynnep6483 Pretty much. They basically used up all of the stars energy in the process they reveal.
This fight made Maruki one of the best adult character in the neo persona generation (Persona 2 has the best adult ones but still tho)
34:25 kingu crimson
No
It's like kimg crimson and the worlds love child. KINGU WARUDO
@@anonymousgeek8633 Marukis reality is just glorified GER
The final boss is nightmare fuel
and here I thought the original boss fight couldn't be topped, this one was on a smaller scale but it was certainly one hell of a way to go out
I was kind of hoping Joker would have gotten a 3rd awakening but I'm not even sure if wild cards can get third awakening.
Pelcogo Raoul lmao his 3rd awakening is dlc
@@tickohost I think he means story related not buying
55:35 me when the pancakes aren’t finished
When someone mentions pancakes to Akechi
54:45 I know it’s supposed to be a emotional moment, but i laughed my ass off when i got to this part in my play through
I'm so glad I'm not the only one.
The Phantom Thieves. A group of teenagers but pretty intimidating when you put into mind these “kids” took down a olympic athlete corrupting a school, a whole art money scandal, a mob boss, a corrupt lawyer, The CEO of a corrupt organization, the to be prime minister, and a personification of a god, and traversed the entirety of the cognitive underground, now you Maruki stand here with knowledge of the cognitive world in hopes of beating this team of Tricksters. As powerful as he is, it must have been pretty nerve racking seeing the Phantom Thieves progress throughout the time.
54:20 when my dad comes home drunk and I have to protect my little sisters bedroom door.
Thats dark asf holy shit
Behold, god.
“Checkmate”.
*pulls the trigger on robot*
Anyone else think Adam Kadmon looks like an Ultraman?
I’m kinda surprised you didn’t make use of Haru’s life wall skill. It costs zero sp if you do a full baton pass. And the attacks Maruki sends at you gets reflected and deals good damage to Azatoth. But you’re still impressive though!
Doesn't Maruki usually do almighty attacks with only one bless and physical
Im proud of thee, master
Dude he didn't use you, Satanael or Raoul at all
@@nightlypiano41 The Trickster decisions are none of my concern(but yeah, kind of a dissapointment)
@@jesusmoralesvaca817 eight? I mean, imagine a mecha battle between Adam Kadmon and Satanael
@@nightlypiano41 he doest want to shot god in the face again
Rest in peace, legend
Its been awhile since I played this but man the Interface is sooo Stylish!
lmao akechi is just beautiful
He really is 😌
so what do you think about this ending?
yup CHEkMAito
and also Punches are so OP
Is it just me or does the last fight between joker and maruki remind anyone else of metal gear solid 4 when old snake fought liquid ocelot?
LIQUIIIIIIIID
@@willuptop9138 Snaaaake!!!!!
lol i thought the same when i got to that part
I don’t understand how my joker has 800 health and he dies in one shot by marukis attack.
so our snack therapist ends up as our worst enemy
*great*
I was really suprised when I saw marukis costume lol, didin't expect that costume coming...
Lol Akechi be like “DO YOUR F*CKING JOB!”
Both are really into Persona and shit like that.
This hits different...
I just focused Maruki and never saw either of his special attacks. Neat to see them.
Is it me or the game leaves a lot of questions open about Jose?
Chidori He could’ve been talking about anyone though, there are a lot more folks than just Philemon and Nyarlathotep watching over humanity
I have no idea what he is. Like does he work for Igor? He isn't really involved in the plot. Doesn't even have a social link.
Pelcogo I believe he was training to become the next Lavenza
Or maybe for take over Igor
Maruki really do be looking like smallant1
I can't unsee this now...
Nobody:
Naofumi in the Beginning of His Banishment Arc: 55:33
R'sene Loopin I sat there playing P5R saying “Man Maruki’s voice is familiar” and then it clunked me on the head he’s Naofumi and I screamed
Wait, The Shield Hero??
@@arctohru Indeed, He is the English voice of Naofumi Iwatani aside Ferdinand Von Aegir, which makes him getting a Best Male Dub VA Award by Crunchyroll.
@@riotmakerzeronine6761
I like this information
His voice actor is the same as Rean, kind of ironic if you have Crow in your party to fight him.
Funny how I'm finishing the first Cold Steel game right now.
47:53 best moment 👍👍
It radiates the same aura as Nyx Avatar!
Very yin and yang if you ask me. Nyx the power to kill/destroy and Adam Kadmon the power to create/Alter. Both have the powers to end life.
@@anonymousgeek8633 well. This guy is more powerful than Nyx, and "the will to die."
He likely revived Minato (because he didnt sent hardships and stuff like that, and the p3 group was basically devastated when Door-kun died.) And either defeated Nyx, killed Nyx, or sealed Nyx with a fraction of his power. He had complete domain, and mastery over reality, and people, more absolutely than Yaldabaoth did.
@@KraNisOG And Maruki did all that with Azathoth. Imagine what he is capable of now that Azathoth evolved to Adam Kadmon.
@@KraNisOG I wouldn't say that. Since don't forget all Shadows/Personas come from Nyx, including Adam Kadmon/Azathoth. There are no Persona stronger than Nyx because they originally are apart of her psyche. What's far more likely to have happen is that The events of Persona 3 simply never happened, if people never wished for the fall, Nyx never awakens amd Erebus is never formed.
@@thatoneguyintheback5095 as described in game he has the ABSOLUTE ability to rewrite reality to his will, and does so. He doesn't know they come from Nyx, and as he knows about those events he simply gets rid of Nyx, and to him he believed the other events would be normal, and so they were. It is 100% possible to be more powerful than your creator.
Philemon and Nylar are both creates from humans, but they're deffinatly more powerful than a human.
47:10 lol Royal made me adore Akechi so much more
49:34 I love the blatant hypocrisy in Morganas line here
He is [The World] omg
I think we all here for: 54:32
Ngl I thought Joker was gonna summon Raoul
Are you going to make a video showing all dialogue between Maruki and the party members during the first phase?
@Rastalov manipulative seems to evil for maruki. I don't think he's trying to be manipulative but still comes off that way telling them how their lives can be better if they just allowed him to complete the merging of mementos and the real world.
did joker just finish with makotos special move?
10:45 "DIEGO!"
**Diego was nowhere to be seen**
Azathoth the creator of Nyarylethotep is this guy's persona. Oh dear.
If he has a kid...