My top 8 plants for your new food forest garden
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Starting a food forest or a garden this spring? Here are the top 8 plants I suggest adding into your food forest. This is a combination of plants that will turn around VERY quick return on investments, propagate well, are dead easy to grow, are cold hardy and resilient, are almost completely ignored by pests, and also perform other functions besides just simply being food! What more can you ask.
This video focuses on non-trees. For the tree layer (if you are starting a food forest), make sure to add your favorite fruit tree to this. Sure some will get up and producing sooner than others (apples are quick vs say hickory nuts which are slow). But overall, a tree will take a bit longer to produce. Get those started also (the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the second best time is today). However, this video is going to list some plants that (baring some kind of unique soil condition) should be quite easy to grow and will multiply. Plants that typically tend to have a large market - if you want to sell them, and are considered miracle foods (food is medicine).
Some of my favorite plants didn't make this list (Seabuckthorn is the most obvious one here), but only because I wanted to keep this list more "new person friendly". Mushrooms are one that should be in there (winecaps, oyster, shitake, pearl, lions mane, etc), but are one that deserve their whole proper video.
Also, I definitely welcome "you forgot _______ which is my favorite" kind of comments. All comments are welcome. Understand that I could make this list 150 plants deep, and that would make an equally useless video.
Last thing... if you really want "quick to produce and turnaround", that's something that annuals are great at. I didn't want to make this list a bunch of annuals, but for those, consider stuff like Potatoes, Carrots, Onions (which did make this list for a very interesting reason), Tomatoes, Zucchini, Peppers, Squash, etc. But for annuals, people will just grow their favorites, and call it a season. Perennials have a bit more of an "investment", because they stay around for longer. So I did try to focus this list on perennial foods.
If you grow nothing but annuals, try to start adding some of these perennial options to your garden - and ask for other amazing perennial options, such as red Russian kale vs traditional kale. So many gardeners focus exclusively on annuals, and that's a lot of work. It's nice when the season starts that 90% of your gardens are done, your only job is picking food. Oh and that food is already coming up in the spring, with some fiddleheads, ramps, asparagus, perennial onions and mushrooms.
Last thing - get ordering soon. Gardening is experiencing a massive renaissance, and nurseries are going out of sale quickly. Always try to buy as local as possible, not just to support local growers, not just to reduce transport emissions, but also to get varieties best suited to your local area.
Happy Gardening friends,
Keith
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Im surprised Jerusalem Artichokes didn't make this list : ) . I started my food forest last season (barkyard in scarborough) , I planting out a bunch of Sumacs seeds I collected. I hope enough come up this season to thing out (sell a few ) and start building privacy screen along a busy road.
I also put in black berries, and 2 verities of haskaps. I haven't planted any trees yet as a I want to build the soil first. Im going to spread daikon radishes, amaranth and peas/beans.
Yes, they were a hard cut. I just thought I talk about them too much as it is, and they even have their own spotlight video. Also a lot of people just don't like them for some reason, so I thought it was best to leave them out. But if this was a list just for me, I honestly think they'd be number 1. Another hard cut was seabuckthorn, for the same reason. I feel like I talk about that plant too much, but if I were starting fresh, I would have that in my food forest before anything else.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy I think Sea Buckthorn is vastly underrated. I found some in Norfolk (UK) some years ago and grew a few from seed I collected (easy enough). Planted them too small, however, and the grass in my garden overwhelmed them.
Yesterday, I finished planted 20 much larger plants that I've just bought online. Really quite cheap for what they are.
The other great thing about Sea Buckthorn is the fact they are such an open, airy plant, allowing a lot of light through, down to the ground and onto other plants directly behind them.
Sea buckthorn is extremely versatile in terms of hardiness. I planted mine in former pasture and most grew in spite of me. Those planted nine years ago are about nine feet tall and beginning to sucker. I like free plants. Comparing our two climates, UK to Montana east of the Great Divide, shows this is one incredibly adaptable plant. Our temps have ranged from a winter worst -27F to 102F since I planted them.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy I had Jerusalem Artichoke for one season. They were REALLY tasty but holy cow did they take over my entire garden XD Will try cultivating them in a raised bed next time.
sunchokes are native to north america
Great list!
Raspberries
Garlic
Egyptian walking onions
Asparagus
Strawberries
Haskaps
Beans
Peas
"Get those trees in the ground today." I love that advice. I've wasted two years already focusing on building basic farm infrastructure first when I should have planted the long term fruit and nut trees instead. This reality hit me this week when a lemon tree I planted from seed four years ago in my kitchen garden in the house I live in in the city flowered for the first time ever! Plant your fruit trees early and you will thank yourself for it later because fruit trees are God's gifts that keep on giving year after year with little maintenance needed :-)
Yes to strawberries! I put 6 plants up on the hill and within 2 years they had covered 1/8th of an acre... virtually no top soil, tons of competition from Himalayan blackberries (a very aggressive invasive here), poor water retention clay (due to the steep slope). No extra water, no food, no weeding and now we have a rich stable hillside that the bushes and trees are moving into on their own. Another benefit is they provide great habitat for garter snakes so we don’t have to worry about slugs as much. Snacking on the way up to slash the remaining blackberries is also really nice. Tiny berries that are super sweet. We get so many we can’t pick them all so the birds have a feast and they can’t even get them all before they ferment on the plant. Now those are really interesting!
I'm in zone 5 in Iowa. I started my food forest this spring. Raspberries, asparagus, strawberries, gooseberries, garlic, walking onions, horseradish, cat mint, spearmint, chocolate mint, lemon mint, lemon balm, sage, thyme, borage, oregano, and echinacea. I'm looking for comfrey and a friend will be giving me black raspberries after the harvest. I would LOVE a pear tree or 3.😁 I so enjoy your videos. Relaxing, informative, and not super long. The strawberries were given to me today. About 300 plants. I have a wonderful friend who was looking for help in her garden. She is teaching me great skills and blessing me not only with her friendship and knowledge, but lots of free plants. This woman was truly God sent to me.❤️. I pray I bless her right back.
Fantastic!
Strawberry tip from Paul Gautchi: In the Fall after they are done for the year, cover the entire bed with enough woodchips to make them "disappear"; and in the the Spring, only the young, strong plants will be able to push through. Lazy (easy) way to thin your strawberry patch.
Definitely a good thing. Works similarly with many plants.
I listened to that advice and mine are doing amazing!!!
TY, GB! Less stoop labor for this Septugenarian 'thinning' is a good thing.
Oh great idea. Thanks for posting / passing it along!
I was just about to post this! Love sharing the gardening tips.
I got my first two haskaps growing at my allotment in the UK. Can't wait for the first blooms! And lol at your comment about garlic. I take it as a challenge that I can't eat as much garlic - watch me! Nice video. Thank you
*Throws down gauntlet*
Indeed, we actually DID manage to eat over 400 garlic last year. We made a LOT of soups to freeze for hockey season.
Garlic bread? Don't mind if I do...
(My absolutely favourite is Foragers Soup - mushrooms, garlic and hazlenuts)
Left the east for Vancouver Island, I currently have 7 items growing through the winter, so nice. learning to appreciate the warmth and not having snow, Planting trees today, preparing soil for a run of blueberries 100 plants
When you said to pause the video and guess, I was saying, “Bc you live in Canada!!!” 😂 Okay, well, giving bees nectar is also a valid answer 😅
There's a perennial garlic. Allium canadense. Also, I don't think the Nodding onion is as invasive as the Walking one.
i have something very interestning to add here, ive been growing onions in varieties from seed for years and usually keep some patches of 6/7 onions spread around the garden in the ground to overwinter and flower, one of those flowering onions produced a set of small onions instead of a flower with seed heads i noticed it very early, i let those grown or swell up not sure what actually happend in the same frame as iwould for trying to harvest seeds, i instantly replanted some of those bulbs as i harvested the well mature other onion flowers and kept some in the cellar for next year planting, those i instantly planted rotted after the show, those i planted the next spring all became 'walking onion plants' ive grown from 'radar' variety onion seeds and been going for 4 years now
A fine list!! However, I think everyone should plant at least one perennial leafy green, so there's a video for another day (plenty of choices--Hablitzia, stinging nettle, good King Henry, sorrel, sea kale, hosta shoots, etc.). I went out with a bowl early last spring and filled it with over a dozen greens that were either perennial or had self-seeded the previous year. Fruit gets a lot of attention, but I can't wait to eat some spring greens.
A great perennial green is Waterleaf. Both leaves and rhizomes are edible. Some sources say it naturally grows in a warm climate but look further, it grows in almost every planting zone.
We have stinging nettles down near the river and they are quite good (have to cook them). Extremely nutritious apparently. Sea kale, I have that o'plenty, and it reseeds very well also. I have to still add Good King Henry and Hablitizia. I actually planted Caucasian Mountain Spinach, not knowing it was Hablitzia. For some reason I don't think it ever popped up. Maybe I didn't cold stratify it long enough, maybe it will pop up this spring. If not I'll try it again and maybe baby the area a bit more until it gets established. Definitely want more perennial greens!
@@lesliekendall2206 Wondering how aggressive you have found this? Eastern waterleaf is native in my area, but I don't want to disturb the current balance much.
@@formidableflora5951 I haven't had it long enough to know. It didn't like where I planted it last year so I re-potted it last fall and brought it inside till Spring.
Watching in the UK, had to look up Haaskap . Commonly known over here as Honeyberry.
Lonicera caerulea) is the plant to look for to make sure you get the right plant:)
That's the one!
This is so timely. I am starting my food forest this spring. My trees and some shrubs are ordered, just waiting for them to arrive.
Awesome! Indeed, I was trying to think of good videos to do which would be timely in nature. I was wanting to do a video on which trees/bushes to order (because now is ordering season), and then I got that comment from April and it aligned perfectly.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy Order early!!! I was surprised by how little variety of stock most of the nurseries have this year!
I ended up having to order from 10 different nurseries just to get most of what I wanted to get this year.
One I have been surprise by its productivity is ligonberry. I have a nice patch at the house (really sandy soil) and I don't know for how long they have been there but we can pick about 4L per year of that little cranberry like fruit. It is a nice soil cover too. The grouses ate them all this year since we did not took the time to pick them :)
This is one I don't have yet. I still have to find some and add them to my expansions this year.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy I think I would be able to send you some but I don't know if I would remember in spring when snow is melted...or be able to dig some out now
If one adopts a Charles Dowding, no till system, with cardboard over the soil and a bed of deep old compost... the potatoes grow in the compost layer and the roots of the trees are fine because the soil isn't being disturbed.... the only consideration is that some trees don't do well with rich soil ( nitrogen fixers) and the annual usually needs to be sunny side of the truck. If the soil is naturally contaminated with arsenic, fluoride, lead etc... one tends to have trees that produce mulch and have little uptake of heavy metals into their nuts/fruit and all root vegetables are grown in raised wicking beds and containers with no contact with the contaminated soil.
Korean pine and Swiss stone pine are great trees to plant for pine nuts in colder areas! If you live in zone 1, you can plant Siberian pine for pine nuts too! You can basically grow pine nuts anywhere!
Just make sure you know how much effort and what low yield you get from those pine nuts. The pine nuts you buy in a store are from pinyon pines. Siberian, Korean and Stone pine nuts are the size of sunflower seeds or smaller, and they are a pain in the butt to harvest.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy pinyon pines don’t usually grow well here because it’s too moist. There’s also the dwarf Siberian pine that you don’t have to climb up to harvest. So there’s that
My one cent if you have non perfect soil like I have (mine is heavy ph 7.8) is to buy only one plant per variety but as much varieties of eg raspberries you can get (with taste description at least : very good) because they really are different in their adaptability to adverse soil conditions. Some die out after one season and others just continue to produce..
This is a really good comment. Same thing for if you have vastly different areas in your land. Buy a few extra of each type and plant them in various places to see where the plants naturally do best. Really good comment, thanks Mimi.
Haskap! I didn't think of that. I was focused on getting the blueberries going. Thank you for this video. Put in 5 strawberry plants 3 years ago now it completely covers a 10 by 12 plot. Get y'all some strawberry! Just put in over 50 canes of raspberries. My neighbor dug them up and was going to throw them in his burn pile. He said they were out of control. I took all those canes and just play them straight into the ground. Y'all get some raspberries. Great addition to the Food Forest! Stay awesome my Gardener friends.
Haha, thanks for the confirmation. Indeed, they produce so much, and spread so fast they are bordering on "problem" territory. But that's what I want in my garden. Stuff that wants to grow and stuff that feeds.
I want in my garden plant that are perennial that I only have to plant once and then I can feed my family with it continuously. I was Fabregas that he would pull up all his raspberries and then try to burn them. Wow dude! I told him," I'd be glad to take care of that for him." Just like you my friend, so many strawberries, giving them away to my other Gardner friends that are local.
Thanks for the winter garden tours! Helping me get through winter in Ottawa
I can't believe it's already end of February. This winter went so much faster than last winter for me. I feel like a kid in November and Christmas is just around the corner, and you start counting the days until it comes. Spring is almost here... kinda sorta.
I'll just second your comment except end it with "...here in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan by Lake Superior."
yep, working on my garden even if I can't get into it, planning ahead.
I’m in zone 5(Chicago) and I watched several of your videos to help me expand my garden. I’m going to make some guilds this year and I’m looking forward to planting some haskaps, sea buckthorn and Jerusalem artichokes.
Yeah! Best of luck Laura. I've seen you making a few comments, so you are brushing up your info before planting! Awesome stuff, you will be an amazing gardener with this thirst for knowledge 👌
I want strawberries all over our property, even if they never produced an actual berry. Because here in East TN they stay green all winter long, which means they're always supporting that crucial soil microbiology. They're also just a nice-looking, low-maintenance groundcover. We've grown some standard varieties from plants you can get at any store and this year we also bought seeds for a "wild" alpine variety.
And as a bonus to all that.... strawberries! :)
I made a post like this on reddit today. This is such a good take, and not only because I also said it today also. Just getting a spreading groundcover has value for the soil microbiology. Any strawberries you get are a bonus.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy yes, exactly. I take the view that my first priority is to "grow" healthy soil. Everything else can sort of work itself out as I develop that.
I have a knee jerk reaction to your videos that makes me feel like a total sycophant. So I usually I just refrain from commenting altogether. 😂 But honestly I don’t think it can be overstated-you are doing a PHENOMENAL job EDUCATING THE MASSES on food security while also showing how to be a great steward at caring for our planet & the wildlife on it. Even people that aren’t watching & don’t care will soon learn that relying on others to feed them could end in a diseased & nutrient starved family or worse, end in starvation. So hats off to u for taking the time to educate people u don’t know & probably never will.
But what I really wanted to say about the video is-I’m almost shell shocked that you live in one of the coldest climates there is yet I have never heard the word “container” in any of your videos. The internet had me convinced that “container gardening” was necessary bc I live in the States in a ZONE that has FOUR distinct climates! Which zone? ANY ZONE that ends with a number! 😂 How is it possible that u have the garden of Eden in Canada? IN THE GROUND? I lived in Canada as a child, my sisters were born there, we had 2 seasons, #Cold & #BuriedinSnow. Yet here u are bragging about an empty “stickly” looking garden covered in snow! It’s truly awe inspiring what God has actually blessed us with regardless of where we’re planted. Yours is one of, if not thee most important + educational + beautifully amazing earthly channels on UA-cam. So if I say thank you after every video, I’m actually not a sycophant, I’m just grateful that you’re teaching me for FREE.
#ThankYou ❤️
haha, thanks so much! The key to no containers is equal parts laziness and planting zone appropriate species and varieties. I could make a food forest in Northern Alberta, it would just be limited on what plants I could grow. (VERY limited).
Containers are great for if someone has lots of time, lots of inclination for babying plants (water and nutrients long term), and want to grow things that don't normally grow where you are.
There must be some Haskaps that are 'better' than others, because I bought 3 and they taste revolting, really eye-popping bitter. Even the birds wouldn't touch them. I've shoved them into another part of the garden to see if a move will help.
If birds are a problem around strawberries - try the white variety called 'Snow White.' It has a superior taste (some liken it to a pineapple). It both fruits pretty well and sets lots of runners at the same time. The birds simply ignore the white fruits, nor did I have trouble with mice or slugs. Because they don't turn red, you learn to know when they're ripe by the smell, the amount of 'give' when you squeeze them gently, or by a very slight blush that some fruits develop.
As well as Egyptian Walking Onion, Welsh Onions do pretty much the same job - plus there is now a red type to add a bit of border interest.
I also have a 'Thick-Leaved Dandelion' which is a selected type. That's pretty good if you can handle the taste of Dandelion leaves. They blanch well too. I leave mine in the ground, just stick a pot over them and - well, you can't easily kill any dandelion, they just keep on producing leaves. (I've left a pot over one Dandelion for 2 years - as an experiment - and it 'still' produces leaves. Immortal, I reckon).
Good King Henry is another good one for producing a few good leaves in their first year, and they just seem to get better year after year.
A great post, and love the suggestions. I need to still try Good King Henry myself.
One thing about haskaps is that when you think they are ripe they aren't. They will go from green to bright blue, and they still aren't ripe yet. I have a feeling you just ate an unripe one that looked ripe but wasn't. You have to wait until just brushing lightly against it makes it fall off the bush. That's when they are ready. It could be variety also though. I have boreal, beauty, beast, tundra, and a few others. They are all quite good. Definitely sour, but a nice sour, not a lip puckering face vortex of sour. Just a nice tart sour with a deep complex flavor. Hard to describe.
I got some Egyptian walking onions last fall and planted them. I’m so excited to see them this spring.🌱✨
Try to not touch them this year - maybe just a little bit to taste them (a few greens). But let them get established, let the greens develop and make photosynthesis for stronger roots, let the greens get hard and turn to hard stalks for bulbit sets, then end of season take those and spread them, planting them like normal onions. Take a solid year or even two to spread them.
I got a single haskap last year. And then had the deer come through and destroy my bushes. Luckily they're both budding out, so hopefully I'll get more fruit this year and a chance to propagate the bushes and spread them around.
That's too bad. Thankfully they are pretty tough plants and should bounce back well. At least as much as anything would.
Great video brother
This was so helpful, thank you. We're starting our food forest this spring and it's easy to become overwhelmed with all of the options.
Glad it was helpful! You can do it. Remember, you can't screw this up and you have more than enough time to adjust and make changes. The worst thing is to get overwhelmed and not make the leap.
Really appreciate this video. I will start with all of these. Greetings from southern Germany!
I've had a recent thought lately to help get "wild" spots planted. Having bird and squirrel feeders set up with seeds of local plants that are more common and beneficial to local wildlife (maybe grasses, flowers and ground cover). That way the birds and squirrels can be the planters and only the areas and plants that can survive and thrive on their own will cultivate. I haven't decided if I'm going to ask permission for this or ask for forgiveness later haha. But I have a few people I'm talking with about this and other local projects too.
Also I'm slowly amassing cuttings and seeds for this year and I'm getting ridiculously excited haha. As always great video, thank you!
Forgiveness. Definitely forgiveness. =p
I've been wondering about Haskaps. Thanks for covering this plant in your video; I never hear anyone talking about it. This looked good in the catalog, but since I'd never heard of it before, I wasn't sure what the berries tasted like.
Now, I'm convinced that planting this is a good idea, especially after what you said about the aviary benefits.
First time I've watched you. I'm subbing, then watching more.
Awesome! Thanks for watching. These are indeed one of my favorite bushes - if just for the bees alone. The berries also taste great though, they are very productive, very healthy berries, and they give a crop a solid month before anything else, extending your season greatly. A wonderful addition. Make sure to get at least 2-3 varieties for better fruit quality and set (they are semi-fertile, meaning they will make fruit on just 1 plant, but the quality and size improves with more varieties pollinating eachother).
You are such a wealth of information. I cannot express my thanks!
You just did and it's so appreciated! You are all the best. I have such a nice community of people who come here.
Have all but one on your list.....haskap but on the list to find today! Thank you again for sharing vauable information Keith. 🌱🌞💚
Good choice! Good luck! They are a huge favorite of mine.
Haha I love how excited to find you your dog was at 3:06
She's hilarious. It's funny when she sees me out there and starts barking because I'm too far away. Then I'll yell "Ginny it's me" and she comes BOUNDING through the snow to say hi. She's the best dog I've ever had. Yeah, she's just the absolute best dog ever.
Ans so nice that kohlrabi seems to be a weired plant in Canada🙂. In Germany we eat it all the time. A great fast growing plant, very hardy, easy to grow, from very early in spring until december, which does not consume much space. Great to eat raw with other raw food and salads. It even gets quite sweet with the last sets in winter.
I am definitely going to grow more of it this year. I think my family is slowly opening up to eating things that aren't lettuce LOL
Really appreciate this and thank you in advance! 🌱👍
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Such good advice thanks! I will definitely be following this as I plant out the beginnings of my new garden this year.
I ordered really early (in the fall) from a southern-based company that ships when they're ready to plant, and my dormant perennials came in earlier than expected, but still in a good planting window based on my typical local climate, so I planted them out. *Then the Texas ice storm came*. It got down to 0°F, here, and that NEVER happens. Literally all of them survived, even the fig, and I'm so excited about it. I just might order some more. Haha
Scratch one of the limbs to see if the underneath is green or dead. Even so, don't worry too much. I thought my new grapes were dead last year but waited another month and BOOM, started budding like crazy.
@@lesliekendall2206 I edited my comment, because I decided to just Google my question (lol) and then I immediately went out and did the scratch test on all of them. I saw that I didn't have a reply to this comment yet, so I just edited it. I guess I was doing that while you were typing out your helpful reply. 🤦♀️ Haha
I think I enjoy your videos because I’m also an engineer and you think like I do about this stuff. I’m in the process of buying a 10 acre property where I’m going to start my own food forest/homestead. My focus getting started is going to be poultry and mushrooms, because I have experience with that, but I do want a solid food forest eventually. The one thing that gets me every time I start thinking about it, which I haven’t seen anyone talk about, is HOW THE HECK do you keep track of what is growing where, especially when you allow annuals to go to seed and propagate themselves? I would appreciate the engineer’s take on this in a video, perhaps?
I'm very organized at work, but in my food forest I'm a squirrel. I plant everywhere, forget where I put stuff, and find things growing all the time and think... did I plant that?
Short answer is, I don't. And I love it. I revel in the chaos of my food forest.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy LOL! I was afraid the answer might be “learn how to visually identify your plants as young as possible, then go look.” I think I might make my own personal plant ID guidebook with pictures and descriptions... I just can’t remember how to ID more than a couple of unfamiliar plants at a time without something to refer back to.
Also, that's something that really builds as you use the plants. You can look at so many pictures and books and vidoes but you won't retain much longterm. You will think you are, but then a year later you will have forgotten most of it. However, getting outside and touching the plants, finding them, using them, making tea, drying them, etc... you pick it up really really quickly.
It's also one of those things where you look like an expert but you aren't. So many people around here think I'm some infinite encyclopedia of plant knowledge. I'm not at all. I just know my plants here (and if you look through some of my earlier videos, I had some mid-IDs on plants as I was learning them still). To a new person I look like an expert, but to an expert I look like a new person. And to that expert, they look like a new person to someone with more expertise than them.
It's one of those things... the more you learn, the more you realize you have SO much left to learn.
Oh and talking about "superior choice over blueberries", service berries man😄 I just like them so much and I heard you guys in Canada have some heavily producing varieties 😄
So good. They are slower to grow so wouldn't really match this video (they are a fast growing tree though). But definitely, I am going to do a top tree video at some point, and these will definitely be on the list.
Great video, thanks! I’ve planted fruit and nut trees and will be adding your suggestions, as well black currants which I love. I’m excited about getting these all in our first year!
Black currants are maybe my favorite jam. That or haskap, it's sooo close. I really enjoy eating them raw too, especially when they are perfectly ripe. They tend to be a little larger, although maybe that's just my variety.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy Never heard of haskap but sounds like a very useful plant in our area
One of my favourite videos yet. Love the list and I have most of your list growing in my zone 3 Rocky Mountain small backyard. Let me second your love of Haskaps. I planted seedlings three seasons ago and they have grown up exactly as you mentioned. They are buzzing with activity early in the season and provide my favourite tasting berry. Each berry is a taste explosion waiting to happen. The only plants on your list that I don’t currently have is asparagus and walking Onion. I’ll look into those for this season.
Awesome Kerry. Are you Alberta/BC? I'm kind of Jealous. Zone 3 is even colder than I am, but the rockies are just so beautiful. I should have been born in BC - I feel like that's where I belong.
Another great video. Thanks for sharing.
A native nitrogenator shrub is soapberry.
Epic video man. Just found your channel. You're in a colder climate than me but I subbed because I like how you think
Awesome, welcome 😀
Fantastic video! I've subscribed. Will be purchasing some egyptian onions!!
Nice. I really like how you recommend raspberries as starters. That's what I did and will do in the next spot too thanks
Any time!
My favorite jelly:. Gma's "Blackcap". The Munger black raspberry.
Off subject (in case anyone's looking):. A large company had to cancel my Rainier cherry tree order yesterday. Bad crops everywhere. Many companies listing "out of stock". Found a good price at Willis Orchards. Tree + Shipping was $60 for a 4-5' bare root tree.
It's going to be one of those years. Hard to find anything. We may be stuck in there for a while. It's a good time to start a food forest and build some stock, and maybe open a nursery in 5-10 years. I think it's a good sector of business for growth.
Awesome thanks Chris
I love you! ❤️ Thank you for your epic videos! So helpful!
You are so welcome!
Have you tried Pascal celery yet? It is the original variety of celery. Stems get woody, but the leaves make a great greens, and green manure, they're so productive. I also dried a lot of it for putting in cooking all winter. As a biennial, it is fill space well, produces a ton of seed, (which is incredibly nutrient dense) and I suspect it is a deep root grower. It's going to be one of my go-to plants for the food forest I am starting, but I already cut my teeth on semi- permaculture raised beds at my last place. Really enjoying your videos :-)
My family isn't a huge fan of celery, but I will still keep my eye open for it. Thanks for the info
Radish, Arugula, and Garden Cress. They are easy to grow, and self seed a ton, which you can put in all the bare spots to keep the garden filled out. Also, plant a few brassicas in the solid mass of strawberries to create edges so they don't all crowd themselves out at the same time.
Great ideas
In this year's garden we're in such a better position than last year, we started a month and a half later with lots of overcast days, and now we have ten times the garden space planted, and it's all in the ground instead of in planters, and we know how a few more of the plants taste, and some of the plants survived the winter, so all in all we starting massively ahead of where we were last year, to get there we kept setting up new areas every week or so, and planting them so the grass doesn't grow back, and saving seeds from everything that made them.
Excellent video. I found out honeyberry leaves are edible and very nutritious.
I've never heard that before
Excellent video, thank you
You are welcome!
Love this channel
You can use strawberry greens in soup they're delicious 🍓
Great channel. Completely agree about value and emphasis on perennial vegetables and greens, etc. Would be interesting to see a garden that looks somewhat like a typical annuals garden except everything turns out to be perennial. Top 25 perennial plants for that? for cold climates. Per your criteria for top 8 "non-trees" (bush or bush-equivalent, I guess), I would go with:
haskap
ribes (currants, gooseberry, jostaberry)
elderberry
pie cherry
blueberry
black raspberry
goumi
goji
honorable mention/substitutions:
hazelnut, sunroot, blackberry
bummer for the strawberry cost up there, for a six pack of crowns at our local garden center it is around 5 bucks us. the variety is Ozark beauty. Sweet video keep um coming !!
Thanks Matthew 😊
Strawberries!
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Thank you for this video!!
Btw, strawberry leaves make a good herbal tea to treat diarrhea.
Great video!
Thanks for the visit
Thank you !
Mckenzy sells alpine strawberry seeds, i think 100 seeds for three bucks... They are rather small but its just a fast easy way to get lots of plants in the ground.
If you start them inside early you will get a crop first year.
I was going to say exactly what you did. Alpines are small. But like you said, it's a great way to get tons of plants growing, and alpines ARE very tasty.
I had never heard of Egyptian walking onions!
Yay I got the quiz right! 🐝🌻🐝
haha good job
Buying haskap is on my calendar
Nice video. Started my food forest last year and i got all the plant you listed. Yeah. I also have turkish roquette and sorel which are perrennials and quite early and fast productive plants. This year im trying cressonnette(sorry for my french), lovage and vining spinach.
Very all nice greens. Cressonnette I believe is watercress in English, another great edible.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy tx for fast reply. You are very dedicated. Ill join your membership i just need to get on my computer because i cant find the sub button on my phone. Also if you think you got snow, i live in Quebec and its been a while since we have got as much snow as this year. Cheers
It has been a strange winter thats for sure!
Great video!! Thank you!!
Glad you liked it!
Surprised sunchokes didn't make the list lol
For sure, one of my hardest cuts - also Seabuckthorn. But I figured I can't just hammer on those plants all the time. Anyone who watches this channel will be planting those in due time. They are just amazing plants.
True,79PB, but the problem is we have to dig up sun chokes. Where we place them makes all the difference. Don’t want to disrupt our tree roots.
Egyptian Walking Onions is a good choice but thing is you gotta catch them first though
Thankfully they aren't running onions.
Egyptian walking onions are super invasive in southern area of them U.S. you cannot remove them from flower beds. They're all over the highways like wildflowers.
Interesting.
Cool.😎
Any onion will grow first year bulbs if you cut the bottom third of the big onion and place it on the soil surface. Roots grow and to then about five spring onions. If you cut the big onion vertically around the centre and plant the centre core, the onion will grow lots of leaves and produce a flower head and finally seeds. These are all edible but you don't get a bulb.
Are there any thornless raspberry varieties? I LOVE eating raspberries (they are the tastiest berries,) but their thorns make them a downer for me!❤
I don't have any but I've heard of thornless ones. I can't speak to their production or taste though.
not to sound cringetastic but I would think that growing things in rows and architecturally sound would be a huge benefactor of improved crop yields.
row crops, mow lanes, leaf and grass fed to sheep/goats for manure to fertalize the rows, while trying to expand the land as you sell bountiful yields.
Many commercial farmers do that, for those exact reasons. It's not as good for maximizing photosynthesis and energy into the soil. Nature grows in every inch. However, for ease of processing, for using the laneways, for running animals, it can optimize human farming yes. Just be sure to make polycultures, even if that means that every other row is slightly different, etc.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy I am actually going to pull goats off of pasture to build a food forrest with companion plants. Adding bees to polinate, adding tons of companion plants thus why goats cant eat on pasture amongst other obvious reasons. from what i was reading up on today while bored at work. Comfrey might be my future go to plant to build up biomass/mulch/goat treat. Maybe its just the fact i get more joy in gardening, harvesting and hand feeding then i do just letting them forage or just drop a bale and abandon them...
This is a very good channel, very much appreciate your work !!! I am starting my new garden and looking for goumi berry bush( cherry silver berry) , but I cannot find them anywhere; may be you have them ? Or can advise the place ? I live in Edmonton, Alberta. Thank you so much for your time
I've been looking too!
You probably know this already, but snow 'ice' cream is the best. Take about 24oz of snow and add to a bowl. Add 1 can of sweetened condensed milk and fold into the snow. Add about half to 1 handful dark chocolate and mint extract and fold into the mixture. Eat.
Absolutely. At a lot of ski resorts they sell natural snow cones with real maple syrup, and those things are AMAZING
Strawberries with pink flowers?!?!? I've only ever seen white.
I have wild blackberries at the back of my property. Can I mix some red raspberries in with them? I really love red ones and I think they would look good all mixed in together.
For sure. That being said the blackberries should have no problem outcompeting the raspberries if that patch is left to sort itself out. So if you want raspberries to stay there, you may need to give the blackberries some extra hard pruning now and then.
Would you ever consider listing out what you grow? We are in similar zones.
That's part of what I keep back as a perk to consultation.
awesome, informative video! where do you buy your plants? I have a hard time finding cheap ones where I am, and we don't have a great selection, either. Are there any super awesome or trustworthy internet sources you'd recommend? also, can you grow haskaps in warmer climates- like down in the southeastern US (7A and b)? that sounds like a plant i'd absolutely love, but i've never seen it down here!
I have a whole bunch of local places I use, but it would only be useful to someone local. I try to go as local as possible so I get really cold hardy varieties.
That's a great list. I thought that rabbit went well with garlic?
It does! heh
Other than the walking onions’ greens, aren’t the bulbs really tiny? Do you peel those or throw in soup whole? Do they really develop a bulb?
Yeah they are definitely smaller. I can still pull them up and eat them, it's just a bit more work. But you save on the sowing and seed starting, so I think overall it's much less work.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy got it! I didn’t realize they made any ground bulb at all. I will definitely ab some of these. Thanks so much! Love your content.
Sadly my 3 haskaps are about 9 years old and I don’t get much off them.. I’m thinking the birds do though
Do you have different varieties? Haskaps especially will benefit from many different varieties.
How well do strawberries handle wood chips? I've laid down a thick-fish layer to improve my compacted soil, but would love to get some strawberry plants in the ground ASAP. My worry is how much the wood chips would prevent the runners from sprouting new plants through the layer. Same goes for asparagus really.
If you look at the b-roll footage during the strawberry segment, you'll see that I pull back some leaves and there are woodchips underneath! Indeed, that whole patch is mulched with woodchips, although it's hard to tell with the sea of green look. They do amazing under woodchips. Infact, the runners will even send roots INTO A WOODCHIP. I constantly pull some runners up to replant elsewhere and this thing is rooted directly through a woodchip and comes out the other side then buries into the soil. It's like a drill.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy LOL. I, too, have dug up strawberries with a weighty wood chip attached.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy you're absolutely right, I completely missed that! I was listening to the video while doing some other work. Do you have any thickness recommendations?
I would say 2-3 inches is good. You can go thicker if it's a fresh sheet mulch that will sit around for a year before you plant into it. If so then go double. But if you are planting into it right away, a couple inches is good.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy Thank you so much!
To the kids: You WILL eat the kohlrabi and you WILL like it !
I even tried tricking them. The plants they plant and water and tend for, they tend to want to eat more. It's like they loved them so they must eat them and see if their work was worth it. For kohlrabi, it wasn't. For whatever reason they still didn't like it. I like it. The kids would rather carrots. lol
@ Canadian Permaculture Legacy ... in the Video just as you show us the Bulb-its of the Egyptian Onions there is a Bush that’s there. Is that a sea buckthorn ??
Yep that my wild variety, so it has massive thorns. I have thornless varieties also.
We have ordered the sea buckthorn in our permaculture package I’m hoping they have thorns to keep those deer.
So I’ve watched this video now 3 times and it’s got me thinking I don’t have any Haskaps, and just like you said they are sold out everywhere.
So I wanted to ask about propagation of the haskap, do they propagate easily, can I take a clipping of a 1 year old bush, put it into water and root it that way ???
I've never tried it, but I think they are some of the easier to propagate plants. One way that I have done, quite successfully is both digging up an old plant and dividing it, but also (much better in my opinion is to) mound it up with soil in the fall, covering 1 foot above the soil level. This is called stool mounding. In the spring you gently pull back the soil and each bush branch that was buried will have rooted into that soil. You cut half of them at soil level and go replant them. You leave the other half to keep the bush alive, and maybe do it again the next fall, or the one after.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy thanks for the idea of Stool Mounding ! It’s something I used to do often in landscaping.
I think I’m going to try both methods you mentioned.
I will keep you posted as well with the method I mentioned.
I know it works with other varieties of Bushes and trees such as Dogwoods and Willow.
Thanks again for all you do Keith and look out for my up and coming videos as well as it will all be a first for me with Permaculture, swales etc ... learning lots and excited for the spring.!!!
Chris.
So I have bristly locust trees in my front yard. Theres at least one individual running out and putting up suckers. So what I'm thinking is maybe I can take some suckers and put them in my garden as the tree in the guild to provide dappled light, quick organic matter to mulch with, lots of flowers, a living trellis for vines and tendrils, and nitrogen in the soil when I'd coppice them at the end of or maybe even during the season.
Is this a good idea?
Yes, very good. It's a nitrogen fixer. Just make sure you stay on top of it and don't let it go too nuts. It will create a thicket if left alone. As long as you are cutting it regularly, it will keep popping up but that just means more cutting, more free biomass and more free nitrogen nodules dissociating underground to feed everything around it.
So I noticed when it was in the teens and yhere was snow on the ground, by my spring there was no snow. Wanted your opinion. If I'm in zone 6B and I put Rock wall within a few feet of my spring runoff, what zone do you think I could jump to for a microclimate? I know there's a lot of factors so don't over engineer it just looking for your best guess. Love to hear your thoughts. Thank you.
Going full out with rock/water usually nets you somewhere between 1 to 1.5 zones. So you would likely be looking at something like zone 7B, maybe pushing 8A.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy you're the best. We'll see. Thanks! :-)
What zone are you in and what elevation?
One pound of PLS595 peas is very expensive and goes a long way.
i'm new to this ... in 2024 i will be moving north (Kapuskasing area) ... so please tell me
what plants will work? thanx. Micky
50¢ a crown for asparagus???
WHERE? I'll go there immediately!
I used to get mine from a crazy old Ukrainian lady. Unfortunately she passed on this winter. I will miss her, she was such a great personality. I will have to find a new spot myself.
Yeah, I got some for $8 and some for $15 per crown in Australia last year. I wish I could find some for 50c!
@@edsaunders1897 In the US they're @ $2 each.
Your intro music sounds similar to "Closing Time" btw
Oh that's funny, I can see it now that you mention it lol.
"Nobody in their right mind can eat as much garlic as you'll be able to produce."
Challenge Accepted!
Lol
Do you trellis peas and beans in the guild? If so can you explain?
I just plant peas at the bottom of my trees and they climb up. I find sometimes depending on the size of the tree, they have a hard time getting up to the first branch. So you can lean a stick up against it to help them get to the first branch.
Where can I get jerusalem artichokes to plant? Not seeing them in seed catalogues.... :( Enjoying your videos!! :)
I got mine from a guy off work. I hear it's hard to find some. I may sell some, it seems like there is a market for them. It wouldn't be until next year.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy That would be great if I might purchase some from you :) Let me know :)
If I ever do, I would announce it on this channel for sure. I'm just really afraid of the horror stories I hear about people trying to do it, that they don't ship well, and you spend most of your time dealing with people complaining (rightfully so) about their product being spoiled before it gets to them. It may be something I can only bring to workshops and such.
I have a consultation job coming up where we may try to weave in some workshops so that people can come meet me, do a morning lesson, spend a day planting trees along side him and I, and then maybe buy some Jerusalem Artichokes or Egyptian Walking onions, or my strawberry variety, etc. I get tons of interest in all those 3 things, so I'm hoping people would consider coming by, spending a day there and helping this gentleman offset some of the cost of his trees with the workshop/hosting fee. I would hope it would be something like $100, but we would have to obviously sort all that out.
And we would also obviously have to get COVID under control as well.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy Thank you :) I was definitely thinking of the "dropping by" thing , rather than the shipping thing :) Keep us posted :)
In case you never thought of it, if you find Jerusaleum Artichoke at the farmer's market or the grocery store, just plant that. That's how I started mine. I bought a bag from an organic grocery store for dinner and kept a couple out to plant.
People tend to forget, you can plant the things you buy from the grocery store.
Wow, two days? I guess that's another way of solving the annoying range of premiere scheduling.
Haha, I wanted to mess around and see what people like best. I find when I release videos too closely together, I get fairly poor viewership on each one (relatively speaking). I am trying to balance putting out quality content, putting out quantity (but maintaining quality always), and not burning people out. It's hard because some people could watch hours every day and not get burned out, but others will.
Question for you (and everyone else)... would you rather just not see the premiere? I can just upload the video then postpone it until Wednesday (for example), but it won't be visible - it will just show up Wednesday. Or I can do the premiere, and people can see what I have coming up. What do people enjoy the most?
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy Personally, I find consistency to be more useful than the premiere. It's easier to remember in the daily ritual. I, and a lot of others from what I've seen, dislike long premiere times because we have to wait all day for content we know is uploaded and ready to watch. The least annoying for me is about 3 hours. Just enough time to adjust scheduling and I know the video will be waiting otherwise.
*However,* the people willing to set reminders and chat in the live replay are more likely to give superchats. They are willing to pay for the interaction with the content creator live. This feature was made for those people to be milked like a microtransaction and it usually makes the live chat a pay to play where the creator ignores anything that isn't paid. For this reason, I don't participate in it but I can't fault anyone for doing it. Comments can be a cesspool and even if someone pays to be a dick to you, they still paid you so you can't feel too bad. (Insert actor wiping tears with cash meme)
I'm not complaining about the 2 days because it's closer to a weekly schedule sort of thing like normal media programming. It was just surprising. Since you're experimenting may I suggest trying to pick a day and upload on that schedule for a bit, build up a backlog of a week or two then set up a premiere for the hump day between videos with a pre-title reminding people on what day you upload. I.e. Saturday upload. Wednesday premiere with title "Coming Saturday" or something. This could even work well into a community post that you can share on Wednesday too.
Did I just break youtube?
Might as well add in a 1v1 poll of veggie and fruit match ups to those posts just to abuse that part of the algorithm too.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy The premiere thing seems unnecessary--my opinion, anyway. I'm always going to give priority to being attentive to the people under my roof and the tasks at hand, and sit down to watch your videos when it's convenient. That being said, when I finally sit down and find a new CPL video, it's like opening a surprise gift. :)
I know that wasn't serious, but why do I like that idea? Lol