Meteor Cancel in Smash Ultimate [SMASH REVIEW 193]
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
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Steve can cancel the knockback AND hitstun of spikes by starting to build (Neutral Special) the moment he gets hit, and so can Kirby with Steve's copy ability. The difference to a regular grounded spike AFTER the block is already out, is that there is no tech situation and Steve can act immediately after getting hit. It isn't thaaat useful, since it is so precise and if you have time to build you also have time to do something else (like dodge), but it is very interesting and allows for immediate punishes of "canceled" spikes!
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We recorded this episode just as the hitstun cancel thing with steve was found. Today there' so much more they found with that tech.. more about it next week
Oh no. It's Melee all over again.
I found one with Ganon and PKMN Trainer.
-Ganon can UpB at the same time as a spike, and can cancel knock back, but it looks like it goes lower than it normally does.
-PKMN Trainer can switch after final spark and cancel the KB
Unfortunately I don’t have evidence but hopefully you will test it!!
@@slimballs9650 Oh the ignorance. Both meteors and spikes do exist in melee.
@@BakingSoda4U
You get the joke right?
@@slimballs9650 I've read a lot of people with the same argument complaining in a serious manner. You have to be just slightly more evident otherwise no one will laugh.
Waiting for Steve mains to discover complete invincibility
Gamemode creative
yeah lmao
To cancel all knockback not just meteors
Steve mains after discovering infinite totems of inmortality (Even Sakurai couldn't patch it)
The 2b2t server already did that
3:00 the hydrant is owned by whoever launched it. Kazuya reflect a stationary hydrant, while Pacman's key launched the hydrant
no, kazuya reflector instantly launches hydrant. Besides, hydrant wasn't even what hit the Kazuya, it was the key.
@@xKingxTitus it takes a moment for the hydrant to be launched even if a very strong hit connects with it, during that time another hit can take ownership right before it leaves the ground, I think that's what happened here.
I'm aware hydrant has 14 % health and kazuya's ➡️➡️🇦 does over 15 %
@@YounesLayachi Something about you being the first and third comment is kinda funny, but finally someone who understands that mechanic, it's present on the smashball too. If someone hits the smash ball with Roy's fully charged neutral B (just cause it's strong) a fox can laser it during the hitlag and steal it. Based mechanic honestly
@@YounesLayachi I gotcha, that makes more sense
As a dedede main, gordo actually has a similar interaction. If dedede throws out gordo, and a move would reflect it, as long as dedede’s hammer counts as a lingering hitbox and causes the gordo to get reflected immediately, causing super powered gordos to hit you if you try to knock them back too early
9:49 For the Meteor Cancel clip
Thank you
sakurai really did an amazing job of emulating the aspect of "anything is possible" from minecraft
Ban
@@Inksploded cry
@@Inksploded alex
The Ness did Multi Mag. This tech is known for some time but its frame perfect and not easy. Works at every % because Magnet got set knockback (so there is no di). The Magnet got a lot of different movement options and all of them are kinda precise. Took me over a year to do the loops in a match (against noobs)
Magnet is very useful for extending combos and setting up jablocks.
Hi, I guess I am a ness labber. Misconception, multimags are not frame perfect. At least not normal multimags. Flymags, which are diagonal, are frame perfect.
@@psiangel8341 Flymags are super fun. They also throw off your opponent when you randomly use them as an anti-air.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Steve can make the game end as soon as it starts.
"Go!- GAME!"
"Steve wins"
that actually happened to me once
@@Akrenix not surprised really but cool and HECK NO
whoever l
youtubebu.com/watch?v=mKiOYYVyoy9
an amazing job of emulating the aspec
BAN
the Steve in your head is empowered by salt
i think the pacman clip at 2:45 is a result of that one thing i think you guys tested out before where his fire hydrant has reflecting properties on the ground which reflected the key multiple times because it was right inside the hydrant
I never knew about the Zoom double jump trick because my friend ALWAYS does Zoom to land to F-Smash, regardless of if it makes any sense.
steve is insane. there's so much that can be done with steve.
6:03 I been waiting for this to appear in smash review 😍
You guys should do like a smash dereview where you go over some of the worst submissions you’ve seen
Watch episode 60.. we did a live episode and there you can see all the clips :‘)
Smash roast
6:27 such a sick win frame
"If you want to make it into Smash Review, you need a better combo into 9." I'll try to land a better combo next time. Thanks for accepting my clip, BSD!
7:38 Thanks for featuring my clip. Super weird stuff with the grab trade push off from Incineroar side b on top of the balloon extension, it was perfect.
Mang0 w
As a Steve player, I managed it in about 10 tries after discovering it in the discord. Never done it in a real match yet. There’s instructions on how to do it there
What’s the general idea? Is it just building a block at the right frame? Kind of like the fast fall out of hit stun
You need to get hit by a moves at the right frame spam jump and an aerial.
If you don't jump or spaman aerial it won't work and you'll just fall normally.
So for the block is just 5 frame before it appears or less (I think)
@@its_truema_6754 I see, thank you!
@@sarthak-ti they forgot to mention you have to buffer a block before you get hit. As of now there isn’t another reasonable way. So it’s more limited than you would hope
15:10 When you tie at rock paper scissors 20 times in a row
The Wii-Fit Incinaroar clip was legendary
That Peach at 16:00 really said “I’m never being kidnapped again” lol
16:39 that rng had a 1 in 887062500 chance
You know the hitstun cancel has a Window of 30 FRAMES!
LOL. That Square Space ad. Typing "Spicing things up!" With that long pause after just typing "Spic"
Any channel that plays wind waker music just puts it on a whole nother tier of chillin 😎
11:40 peach getting payback for fox's waveshine infinite
Best unique intros of all time, these two guys are like family to me at this point.
3:15
My best guess is that he reflected the hydrant and its water as it spawned, which gave enough time via hitlag for the key to transfer to the other side of the hydrant. After that, the key may have been given a weird boost from the reflected water spurt.
For the pacman/kazuya interaction:
The key hit the firehydrant at the same time kazuya kicked it, which caused the hydrant to hit the key, reflect off of it. This repeats until kazuya's reflect expires, and then hits kazuya for the multiplied damage.
At 16:00 that peach grabbed those 3 bombs from the same exact spot thats crazy
7:44 The Baloons
Lessgoo my main boi Ness!
Gonna send in some clips really soon!
Wait until the elytra Tabuu tech where Steve teleports and shoots minecarts instantly
Mainly liking for the Smudge Lord shirt cFive is wearing
Oooo thank you for the hero zoom knowledge! I’ll keep that in mind!
I mean, he still managed to replicate that Ness tech once.
I'm in impressed.
3:17 whos voice is that!?!
I am happy that there is alot of Steve content to help me become an assassin when I go online I'll be ready Steve.
Kazuya Reflected The Hydrant, Pac Man Broke It With The Key
I'm not a Pac Man main but at 2:59 Kazuya reflected the Hydrant and key at the same time but before the key got reflected it hit the Hydrant and make the hit for Pac - man (Kazuya reflected hydrant > key hit the Hydrant > reflect the key > hydrant is at Pac-man for damage after hit but as the know back of quadruple since he reflected twice > hydrant and hydrant hitbox was close enough to hit Kazuya hurtbox ) hope y'all understand
as a pac main, only thing i could think of would be sometimes the water deflects stuff in a weird way, perhaps that was what happened, or some weird hitbox on the hydrant.
9:20 some say diddy's side smash deserves a nerf
15:11 dis is actually a mod from smash 4 imported over to ssbu 💀💀
I honestly have never thought of that Zoom trick. Most of the time I try to go for Zoom offstage before I use my double jump as I thought I will have to preserve my double jump for landing mixups. The more you know.
It's a good strategy, if zoom doesn't appear on menu you can use double jump to pull menu again.
You can also prime your zoom before going on stage (by pulling menu at least once after each zoom).
While offstage, you can jump or drift away from stage to increase your odds of getting zoom.
1:31 and thats why they call him action pacced
3:05 The game just said "idfk what to do here, * * * * that Kazuya in particular"
Loved the intro. Did NOT know about zoom giving you a double jump refresh by default..
I didn't know that about Hero. Thank you doods
7:07 I LAUGHED SO LOUD LMAO
it was just so unexpected amidst all these other hype clips hahahaaa
I think I can explain the Pac-Man;Kazuya clip.
When Kazuya reflected with his kick, he launched the hydrant just as Pac-Man was throwing the key. The key had enough knock back to counter the knock back from the launching hydrant and reflect it back at point blank range.
So what killed Kazuya was a knock back reflected hydrant at point blank range from a key.
STEVE DOUBLE SPIKE IS UNCOOL AF
"I know it's hard, but how hard is it really?"
Samurai Grandmaster level wisdom from C5! 😆😆😆❤🔥
Kazuyas reflector can reflect projectiles into itself multiple times, and while self-reflecting, the key hit the hydrant
That way of recovering with Zoom I've seen before😯
If I had a nickel for every time he said this is the future I’d have two nickels which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice
With Kazuya I think the objects reflected multiple times because they collided with each other, the fire hydrant and the key, and when it was done they went nowhere so it still hit Kazuya for 110 damage and proceeded to kill him. I think this because in the slowmotion it shows the reflection icon like 4 times, and that the times hit each other.
With the pac-man reflect thing.
I imagine that kazuya only reflected the hydrant but the key hit it back in some frame perfect scenario.
That peach fox clip reminded me of Melee with the infinite shine combo on peach
steves found out how to consistently hit stun cancel.
Hey BSD ! Try this as a gamemode raise Incineroar's strength by 130% in the settings, make a new ruleset of 99 minutes with 20 lives, spirits allowed, only smash balls, assist trophy and pokeballs are allowed. Select FD as a stage and the music Power Hungry Fool ( it's ok with any other song but Power Hungry Fool is one of my favorite ). You're going to select Incineroar and than give him Akuma ( spirit ). If you fight in solo, put 1v5 ; 1 as the player and 5 as the bots. If both of you are playing than add another bot, trust me that gamemode is a lot of fun especially if you get the revenge with Incineroar's Down B
Ness multimag has been known. It works at 0. It is an infinite if done correctly.
regarding that Kazuya/Pac-Man clip, you can see the "reflector" effect pop up 3 times on the hydrant and only twice on the key. you can also see that the first reflection of the hydrant starts a few frames before the first key reflection, but the second hydrant reflection arrives only a frame or two after that first key reflection.
the reflector on kazuya's kick is 10 frames and is active 3 frames earlier than the hitbox's 7. despite that, we can see the first reflection of the hydrant activating on roughly the same frame as the hitbox. the hitbox deals 18%, which should lock the the hydrant in the weak launch direction we see it take after the interaction despite how much happens in those 7 or so frames.
hydrant doesn't usually suffer excessive hitstun, but considering the fact that the hitbox and reflector made contact at the same time, coupled with the 7 frames where both hitbox and reflector are active, it's possible that the hydrant was stuck calculating multiple hits on itself as it changed owners. add Pac Man's key late into the mix and I think we can surmise how the interaction loop looks from the outside.
what I believe happened is this:
frame 1) hydrant(pac's) is reflected(1/3) and struck(now kaz's with launch angle locked);
frame 2) pac man throws key, hydrant is hit again because of hitstun and/or calculation speed;
frame 3) key(pac's) contacts hydrant(kaz's, now pac's);
frame 4) key(pac's) is reflected(now kaz's,1/2), hydrant(pac's) contacts key(kaz's, now pac's);
frame 5) hydrant(pac's) is reflected(now kaz's,2/3)
frame 6) key(pac's) contacts hydrant(kaz's, now pac's)
frame 7) hydrant(pac's) is reflected(now kaz's, 3/3)
frame 8) Kazuya's reflector and hitbox become inactive; key(pac's) contacts hydrant(kaz's, now pac's)
frame 9) hydrant recovers from hitstun and becomes an intangible hitbox, key is also stuck in hitstun while calculating
frame 10) Kazuya is deleted
In the Pacman and Kazuya clip, I think Kazuya's hitbox was finished (early?) due to hitting the hydrant, and the reflector part of the move was gone.
2:35 *American flag accompanied by vine boom sound effect*
15:10 That clip is pretty Dong good.
Mac def hit the cart, you’d be surprised how many things have priority over KO punch
I want to see a Steve ditto TAS that abuses this tech like crazy.
I cant look at another Ganondorf or Capt Falcon meteor ever again without thinking of Rebecca and Adam Smasher
As a Ness main, at 13:00, you actually NEED specials set on cstick, other wise the skill level to pull that off is similar to a triple shine in melee. 3 frame perfect, across the controller inputs, no thanks ill use the cstick :)
You don’t need special cstick, but it does help make it easier. Nessboy (the player in the clip) uses smash stick
Meteor Canceling brought back for only Steve (and Kirby if he has Steve's Copy Ability). Yeah, that's going to cause problems!
Steve's Minecart is invincible on startup, hence why it tanked the KO punch.
Love to see some Mad Ice King!
Here's my hypothesis. Kazuya reflected the hydrant and the key knocked it back. Then the same thing happened again. The hydrant was too powerful to reflect a 3rd time. The rest is history.
The key is a reflector so the key and the hydrant kept reflecting each other until I got so strong and hit the kazuya
i dont know who send the dk choreography in but darkt and I are the creator of this xd nice that it got this much attention
that ness infinite has been there for a while
I think the hydrant extended the reflector's hitbox and it reflected the key and the hydrant, then the key launched the hydrant
playing steve is such a blessing thank you sakurai sensei 🙏🏾
ok so about the pacman, what happened *i think* is when the hydrant got reflected it got hit by key that also reflected making it ping pong with the key and the hydrant and the key lasted longer then the reflecter and made it have been refelected like 20 times to the kazuya and killed him. *just my theory*
Great intro as always
Awesome video 👍
The reflect hit the fire hydrant so it was just a in motion towards kazuya
3:15 I think he reflected it five time and cuz of the key and cuz 5 is not even he took massive damage but idk
Pac man vs kazuya just an ultimate moment
Steve out here playing an entirely different game
3:10 I know what it is. So Kazuya reflected the Hydrant and Key, but the key still hit the hydrant, which was pacman's still. The keys power sky rocketed by Kazuya's reflector, and that hit the hydrant, sealing his fate. Please reply if you see this.
Lmfao the Tim’s!
The Peach triple bomb clip is super old right? I remember seeing it before quarantine haha
Hmm, I have a poor clip of this ridley that was unlaunchable
Can we talk about c5 t-shirt ??? Omg that insane
that nessboy clip is an infinite yea
That peach player has some powerful luck
Steve gets buffed every 48 hours
Cant wait till Steve mains figure out arbitrary code execution
How did Cfive's tummy-ache had anything to do with the background joke? still great tho 😂
try slingshot to get the momentum to footstool with ness
No it's two wave birds I've played with. Two characters at one time online
6:50 i'm pretty sure that you can't kill the minecart if it just got spawned
It gets to 0.1% of health
Dude the future of ultimate is crazy, looks like nearly anyone can kill anyone else always.
Think about it, day after day we are seeing more and more concentration of 0 to death clips and crazy stuff like that, from:
Sora
MK
Pac
Kaz
Peach
Ness
Rob
Pika
G&W
Diddy
Steve
Falco
Icies
......
It's crazy man
Awesome video
14:22 again ? Both touched the blastzones and got the jet of white stuff to come out, but only one of them lost a stock?
What's the saying? "Steve gets buffed ever 24 hours"
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!!!!!