Oh Rupert! and Mark God bless you both for this gift. I read Paradiso few years ago and I remember painting a mandala with rainbows and eyes in each section of the mandala, as a symbol of how reading it made me feel! And this morning I was dusting my artwork and saw it after all those years. Then I came onto UA-cam and this video popped up from nowhere, and Rupert saying that reading it was like tripping on DMT and seeing a mandala!! wow! this so made my day, lifted my spirit! Thank you for the light, both of you. Maybe we'll meet in Paradiso one day, if God wills. Regards.
Mark Vernon says: “As I look at the planets I think of them as influencing me by stirring within me the aspect of the divine that they share.” Mark Vernon, if you would embrace astrology you would see that the cosmos is one, not one thing influencing another. Your natal Saturn was in opposition to your Uranus and Pluto conjunction, and all were in T-square to Venus. This says a huge amount about you. Your conjunction of Mercury and Neptune in Scorpio says a huge amount about your intuition.
And Mark is talking to Rupert who is Scorpio Rising with Sun and Jupiter in Cancer 9th house ( house of god ‘ spirituality’ ) where Jupiter is exulted and sun is in its house of joy according to the ancient Hellenistic Greek systems of Astrology . He also has Mercury in its home in Gemini and Venus, Saturn, Uranus all in 8th house . Mars , Pluto Leo 10th house. Moon in its house of joy in Capricorn 3rd house. I can’t get hold of Mark Vernon natal chart. What is his sun, moon etc in ?
@@100woodywu .. Rupert's close conjunction of Sun and Jupiter is especially obvious in his character and work, as is the conjunction Mars and Pluto in Leo, and Uranus with Saturn and Venus on either side. I use the Placidus house system. Mark's date of birth is 6 December 1966
Bravo, Rupert and Mark! Truly a fascinating series of dialogues regarding the Divine Comedy. I am certainly going to get Mark's book. Mark's penetrating analysis of Dante's description of Hell, Purgatory and Heaven is nothing short of profound. And your appreciative inquiry into this, Rupert, helps flesh it out for the audience. Thank you both.
Thank you both. Very interesting conversation. Have had a few spontaneous mystical experiences and for years have been reading about nde's.Dante's Paradiso, the light, the freedom, the love...much reminds me of them. Sending love and best wishes from France ❤❤
So many interesting seed-thoughts here - it almost feels like the conversation could flow out endlessly in all kinds of directions. I did want to say - regarding astrology and its application to the subject, one text that I found instructive was Damiani's 'Astronoesis'. Astrology does get quite a bad rap in our culture and this for me is a book that restores it to its place as a valid 'science of the soul'.
Hey Mark, if you see this comnent I think you should promote your book on the Hermitix podcast. Seems like a perfect fit as James, the host, is interested in Dante.
“DILIGITE IUSTITIAM QUI IUDICATIS TERRAM” - “Love justice you who rule the earth”. "The souls eventually settle on the final M, “on the “M of the fifth word”: “Poscia ne l’emme del vocabol quinto / rimasero ordinate” (Then they took their order in the M of the fifth word [Par. 18.94-95]). Other souls then descend onto the apex of that M: “E vidi scendere altre luci dove / era il colmo de l’emme” (And I saw other lights descending on the apex of the M [Par. 18.97-98]). The shape of the gothic M then transforms itself, its stem elongating to form the head and neck of a heraldic eagle (Par. 18.107)."
I wonder if either of you have read Perelandra by CS Lewis? The feminine in Venus is so strongly emphasised and well portrayed. A dated book, but very well worth a read.
Bet Mark has, given his love for Owen Barfield. Wish they'd do an episode on him. I keep coming across Barfield when researching different topics, including recently in relation to Rudolph Steiner, but I think Mark mentioning him was the first I'd heard of him. Fascinating person.
I had a dream a couple days ago that I saw a being of light and my ears ring like they did just before my psychosis. I was really afraid fell asleep with the lights on and went to work late like usual.
The real ultimate spiritual awakening is forming a 12D merkaba of individual spiritual essence and owning your own universe of creation - either in harmony with the laws of the godly multiverse or going your own way as a god along with any sheepish followers you can attract to your dream of personal perfection. The dark gods and goddesses provide the hells of hard lessons and the lighter ones the heavens of more subtle teachings in the law of Karma
talking about st. francis of assisi, wich is near to where i live, professor Shaldrake have you ever been to La Verna, the most sacred franciscan sanctuary? if not come to visit me i'll show you gladly the most sacred mountain west of the Tigri..
I love the way Paradise is carnal, political, hierarchal and full of selfish abundance. All the horseshit I want to be done with. I guess one man’s paradise is another’s Hell.
You are not becoming one with anything but your own dark soulmates and the god or goddess who rules your hell. Oneness is numbness to responsibility for your own Karma
Anyone who knows anything about light knows that there is not one "light" but many variations of frequency, phase, propagation direction, etc. and many ways to block or transform light. The oneness nonsense - one God, one Source, one universe, one heaven, one hell, one perfect creation - needs to die before science and spirituality can progress beyond their current Stoned Age.
i was very much longing for a new mark and rupert chat just earlier today whilst driving home.. thanks universe ! :)
Oh Rupert! and Mark God bless you both for this gift.
I read Paradiso few years ago and I remember painting a mandala with rainbows and eyes in each section of the mandala, as a symbol of how reading it made me feel! And this morning I was dusting my artwork and saw it after all those years. Then I came onto UA-cam and this video popped up from nowhere, and Rupert saying that reading it was like tripping on DMT and seeing a mandala!! wow! this so made my day, lifted my spirit! Thank you for the light, both of you. Maybe we'll meet in Paradiso one day, if God wills.
Regards.
Thanks Rupert!
Lovely conversation..
Mark Vernon says: “As I look at the planets I think of them as influencing me by stirring within me the aspect of the divine that they share.” Mark Vernon, if you would embrace astrology you would see that the cosmos is one, not one thing influencing another. Your natal Saturn was in opposition to your Uranus and Pluto conjunction, and all were in T-square to Venus. This says a huge amount about you. Your conjunction of Mercury and Neptune in Scorpio says a huge amount about your intuition.
And Mark is talking to Rupert who is Scorpio Rising with Sun and Jupiter in Cancer 9th house ( house of god ‘ spirituality’ ) where Jupiter is exulted and sun is in its house of joy according to the ancient Hellenistic Greek systems of Astrology . He also has Mercury in its home in Gemini and Venus, Saturn, Uranus all in 8th house . Mars , Pluto Leo 10th house. Moon in its house of joy in Capricorn 3rd house. I can’t get hold of Mark Vernon natal chart. What is his sun, moon etc in ?
@@100woodywu .. Rupert's close conjunction of Sun and Jupiter is especially obvious in his character and work, as is the conjunction Mars and Pluto in Leo, and Uranus with Saturn and Venus on either side. I use the Placidus house system. Mark's date of birth is 6 December 1966
@@sebastianverney7851 Thank You 🙏🏻
Bravo, Rupert and Mark! Truly a fascinating series of dialogues regarding the Divine Comedy. I am certainly going to get Mark's book. Mark's penetrating analysis of Dante's description of Hell, Purgatory and Heaven is nothing short of profound. And your appreciative inquiry into this, Rupert, helps flesh it out for the audience. Thank you both.
"Post materialism"... Rupert always drops bombs into my head in small form such as that. Thanks.
Thank you both for this series!
Thank you gents, beautiful insights!
Thank you 🐶❤🐶
Thank you both.
Very interesting conversation.
Have had a few spontaneous mystical experiences and for years have been reading about nde's.Dante's Paradiso, the light, the freedom, the love...much reminds me of them.
Sending love and best wishes from France ❤❤
Was thinking how much I've missed these discussions between you and Mark and now this pops up! Your discussions leave me feeling good.
The thing is, you can't really dice tomatoes. Not really.
@@gedofgont1006 not enough consistency
@@itssameLuigi Indeed.
Thank You Rupert.
Thank you guys! Love the vibes.
as an italian i have the privilege to study it in original and i know some chants by memory it's a true bless
Fantastic stuff. This should have a lot more views.
Thank You
Thankfully 👏👏👏🙌
So many interesting seed-thoughts here - it almost feels like the conversation could flow out endlessly in all kinds of directions. I did want to say - regarding astrology and its application to the subject, one text that I found instructive was Damiani's 'Astronoesis'. Astrology does get quite a bad rap in our culture and this for me is a book that restores it to its place as a valid 'science of the soul'.
Excellent talk!
Okay….this is some phenomenal stuff.
Hey Mark, if you see this comnent I think you should promote your book on the Hermitix podcast. Seems like a perfect fit as James, the host, is interested in Dante.
“DILIGITE IUSTITIAM QUI IUDICATIS TERRAM” - “Love justice you who rule the earth”.
"The souls eventually settle on the final M, “on the “M of the fifth word”: “Poscia ne l’emme del vocabol quinto / rimasero ordinate” (Then they took their order in the M of the fifth word [Par. 18.94-95]). Other souls then descend onto the apex of that M: “E vidi scendere altre luci dove / era il colmo de l’emme” (And I saw other lights descending on the apex of the M [Par. 18.97-98]). The shape of the gothic M then transforms itself, its stem elongating to form the head and neck of a heraldic eagle (Par. 18.107)."
Perfect, even for a Buddhist!
Fascinating. Thank you.
Mr.Sheldrake,if you find the time, please read Sri Aurobindo's Savitri and comment on it.
I wonder if either of you have read Perelandra by CS Lewis? The feminine in Venus is so strongly emphasised and well portrayed. A dated book, but very well worth a read.
Bet Mark has, given his love for Owen Barfield. Wish they'd do an episode on him. I keep coming across Barfield when researching different topics, including recently in relation to Rudolph Steiner, but I think Mark mentioning him was the first I'd heard of him. Fascinating person.
Rupert, which translation of the Divine Comedy would you recommend? Thanks 😎
Kieslowski was working on a divine comedy trilogy - very big shame he didn’t live to see it through
I had a dream a couple days ago that I saw a being of light and my ears ring like they did just before my psychosis. I was really afraid fell asleep with the lights on and went to work late like usual.
The real ultimate spiritual awakening is forming a 12D merkaba of individual spiritual essence and owning your own universe of creation - either in harmony with the laws of the godly multiverse or going your own way as a god along with any sheepish followers you can attract to your dream of personal perfection. The dark gods and goddesses provide the hells of hard lessons and the lighter ones the heavens of more subtle teachings in the law of Karma
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talking about st. francis of assisi, wich is near to where i live, professor Shaldrake have you ever been to La Verna, the most sacred franciscan sanctuary? if not come to visit me i'll show you gladly the most sacred mountain west of the Tigri..
I love the way Paradise is carnal, political, hierarchal and full of selfish abundance. All the horseshit I want to be done with. I guess one man’s paradise is another’s Hell.
It makes no sense to discuss this, particularly the celestial realm, without having read _"The Esoterism Of Dante"_ by René Guénon.
Terrible beauty well describes the dark gods and goddesses of power that fools worship - the hounds of hell and the cats of fake heavens
You are not becoming one with anything but your own dark soulmates and the god or goddess who rules your hell. Oneness is numbness to responsibility for your own Karma
More woo woo.
It is petty not translate.
Anyone who knows anything about light knows that there is not one "light" but many variations of frequency, phase, propagation direction, etc. and many ways to block or transform light. The oneness nonsense - one God, one Source, one universe, one heaven, one hell, one perfect creation - needs to die before science and spirituality can progress beyond their current Stoned Age.