Top 4 Reasons for Rockets to Sign Donovan Mitchell | Top 5 Shocking Astros Stats!
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Bleav Hosts Robert Land & Stephen Kerr look at 4 reasons the Rockets should trade for Donovan Mitchell, Top 5 Shock Astros Stats, Steven Nelson firing shots at DeMeco Ryans, Framber Valdez going rogue & why Josh Hader is changing his routine for the Astros.
(1:40) Top 4 Reasons for Rockets to Sign Donovan Mitchell
(4:30) What should Rockets give up for Donavan?
(11:00) Thoughts on Texans Schedule?
(13:55) Why Steven Nelson isn't coming back to Texans
(17:08) Why we hate Jose Abreu coming back
(21:30) Why is Framber Valdez not trusting Astros brains?
(22:58) Astros Top 5 Most Shocking Stats
(31:01) Why was Josh Hader "Selfish" with his previous team?
(33:00) How should Astros handle Chas McCormick's return?
(36:00) NBA Playoffs shows winning team building has changed
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Stay the course, continue developing and drafting. This is a shortcut that will set us years back, especially if DM doesn't sign long-term. Rockets, stay the course.
As I said, you don't make the trade if there's not an understanding on an extension
@@RobertLandHoustonSportsTalk Understood. I just don't think DM is the guy for the Rockets, wether he stays or not. Our core is amazing, they just need time to mature. We should look to the OKC model and build through the draft, especially with the new bargaining rules in the NBA. BTW, love your show and thanks for all the great content!
We need to start over with #3pick
& Trade sengun& green for a star player
@@gg4l315 Huh? Uhm, no, lol.
The league is getting younger not older
Yes, 28 is ancient. No actually... if you've watched the NBA for decades, you know that 28-34 is the best yrs of any players career. I guess you believe this team is 5 or 6 yrs away?
Yo Kelly iko is not the one to listen to
If you can move Fred, I like Stephen's thought of a 3 team trade. If I was moving the pick, Fred, JG, and maybe more I want more than Mitchell back. Mitchell is an improvement but I don't think he is a Star that takes them far in the playoffs. But only if Donovan agrees to an extension.
He's just hitting his prime. How many Championships do superstars win before their 7th or 8th season? Look at history. As I said, why does he have to carry the Rockets by himself. You must think very little of Sengun, Amen, Tari & Cam
The five-time All-Star is eligible to sign a five-year, $269.9 million max extension when he becomes a free agent after the 2024-25 season. Right or Wrong I don't want to pay DM that kind of money right now. Let's see if he can stay healthy next season. With Bickerstaff being fired in Cleveland, DM might want out anyway. Right or wrong, I want to see another season under Ime with these young guys. They should only get better.
Cleveland made the same mistake you guys are trying to make. Break up a promising future for a first round exit is crazy
Well said!
Man hell no. Trying to take a short cut in the process only puts you years behind. Stay the course. Teams are dropping off next year so we should be in the playoffs.
Making the playoffs shouldn't be the goal. You need stars to win big. You must not believe in Sengun, Amen, Tari or Cam
@@RobertLandHoustonSportsTalk No you don’t. Out of the top 25 earners in the NBA currently, only Rudy is still in the playoffs. Develop what we have into stars instead of taking a short cut. Kings tried to take a short cut and traded Halliburton, now look at the regret.
@@CornellG There's 1 of the Top 15. I said that at the end of the show. You can go back & listen. It doesn't mean Dallas doesn't need Luka & Kyrie, the T-Wolves don't need KAT (who's about to make tons) & ANT, the Celtics don't need Tatum & Jalen (who will be making a ton next yr). The Kings traded Haliburton for an all-star level player because Haliburton didn't fit with Fox. They were never gonna work together. Mitchell & Garland don't fit together. That's their prob in the playoffs. A shortcut would be trading for Durant or somebody in their mid 30's - not a 28 yr old entering his NBA prime.
@@RobertLandHoustonSportsTalk A 28 year old who didn’t like his stop in Utah and wanted a trade and after two years wants out of Cleveland? That’s like getting Kyrie and being surprised that he wants out after two years or starts missing games all of a sudden. Not worth it.
@@CornellGWho wants to live in Utah & Cleveland? btw.. I don't recall him demanding a trade out of Utah
this would be the worse bc dm ain't that dude! why give up your Valuble draft capitol and jg for a guy that's undersized and isn't a real Starr player.
Mitchell is a lead guard with more wingspan than Jalen. How's that undersized? How's he not a star? Did you listen to the show? His team's have averaged 50 wins the last 4 yrs with him as far & away the best player. It's hard to go deep in the playoffs with only 1 All-Star type offensive player. Darius Garland has been his best offensive weapon. DG's a borderline all-star at best
Funny how much “buzz” there is for a Rockets Mitchell trade. Yet, OVERWHELMINGLY the fans/followers are all against it
Stop trying to Push for these stupid trades Mitchell is already at his prime he's not gonna get any better.
He's a Top 15 player who's gotten better every yr. Even if he doesn't get better, he's a Top 15 player. Usually you need at least 2 Top 20 guys to win a title. The Rockets would still have Sengun, Amen, Tari & Cam - in the Windhorst scenario
James harden beat him every time
this is way to much to give up for a guy that hasn't gotten the 2 franchise that hes played for no where near the finals why dose this mak sense he couldn't get Utah over the hump and he didn't do it in Cleveland
As I said, he's CARRIED his team to an avg of 50 wins in the last 4 yrs. Look at the talent around him. Who's the best player he's played with? Darius Garland? Seriously!
I cannot disagree with you more on the Mitchell topic. It's an extremely short sighted and unwise move.
The guys in the core are all looking like they're on the right track. Also, I highly disagree with you on Jabari. I love what I'm seeing from him at this point. He's going to be good.
I really hope Stone thinks nothing like you. My hope is he's traveling for the summer with his family and let's this core cook.
It's Shortsighted to go after a player who's likely starting the best 5 yrs of his career - acc to NBA history. I'm glad you're convinced that Jalen & Jabari are Top 15 players - and there's nothing left with Amen, Sengun, Tari, Cam & a Top 15 All-Star. I frankly don't understand that
@@RobertLandHoustonSportsTalk I think one of the commenters made a really good point, using Cleveland as the example. They were in a similar position as the Rockets and their move, like the one that is being proposed with DM, backfired. I just don't think DM is that guy, he's not top 15, IMHO.
@@TandemKnights He was All-NBA last. That's Top 15. He was 5th in scoring. In the last 4 yrs, he's gone from 11th to 9th to 7th in scoring. He had a better PER this yr than Devin Booker. Name 15 players better than him. Things didn't work in Cleveland because he's a terrible fit with Garland and Allen is a terrible fit with Mobley. It's no secret
@@RobertLandHoustonSportsTalk In no particular order, here are 16 players better than Donovan Mitchell: Jokic, Luka, Tatum, Giannis, Curry, Embiid, Durant, SGA, LeBron, Booker, AD, Anthony Edwards, Jimmy Butler, Kawhi, Lillard, Ja Morant
@@TandemKnights Would you rather have Embiid, Kawhi or somebody more likely to play in the playoffs? Mitchell was better than Lillard this yr & that gap will widen a bunch next yr. Can you trust Ja not to do something stupid & not get suspended? If you get Mitchell, he's passing the old guys like Butler, Lillard, LeBron & prob Curry & KD in the next couple yrs. At worst, Donovan was top 17 or 18 this yr. You'd want him if he's top 15 but don't if he's top 17 or 18? Huh?
No to Mitchell will have to give up too much and what has he done
As I said, he's CARRIED his team to an avg of 50 wins in the last 4 yrs. Look at the talent around him. Who's the best player he's played with? Darius Garland? Seriously!
He’s not a top 15 player
No brainer. Trade for DM!
Mitchell aint it! Thats not worth breaking up the young core just yet. Did he put the Cavs over the top when they go all in? They got a 2yr run, 2nd round exit and a lot of questions more than answer regarding their roster. Dont want short term success..
Rather run it back again with upgrades on the edges and see what we really got. Prove the 19win improvement isnt a fluke. Theres absolutely no reason to rush any major roster move. We are right on track. Remember those old contending teams will start spiral way down - Lakers, Clippers, Suns & Warriors. Denver & Wolves gonna be too expensive to keep together. In 2025 offseason you got pretty big money to work with & more data to make smart evaluation of your roster..
Was Donovan Mitchell the prob? He had an unlucky yr with injuries in this year's playoffs. The issue is who's giving him consistent help offensively in Cleveland. The Rockets have Sengun - who's getting better every yr. They have pieces that fit together a little better than Cleveland
@@RobertLandHoustonSportsTalk thats the whole point, he was brought in to be the SOLUTION to the prob. So, you're literally asking the wrong question. Was he the solution in Cleveland? Remember, when they traded for him, they were in the same position we are or maybe even better. On the rise, Garland was an all star, Mobley had lots of 2way upside, Markkanen was playing great etc. Did they really improved after the trade? Did Garland & Mobley developed along side him?
In theory, he will be good beside Sengun on offense you say. How about the other pieces? Is he really worth breaking up the core after one season which we improved? Knowing theres so much more potential to this roster. Dont think hes that level good to break up the core after one yr improvement and build around him. A hard pass..
I will rather bet on what the roster can do under Udoka yr2. With upgrades on the edges of the roster. Remember, Adams & Tari will be huge. That 3rd pick could be huge. Mitchell aint it..
@@RobertLandHoustonSportsTalk theres absolutely no reason to rush any major roster move. We will be fine. Will have cap space next offseason with FVV having a team option and a better understanding of what we really got by evaluating the roster one more year together. And again, dont think the talent level of Mitchell is the one you break up this core this early..
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Mitchell has been dealing with injuries for the past 4/5 years. Cleveland pretty much made the playoffs this year without him. But, Cleveland fired their head coach to try to keep him. Garland may be the pivot.
Patience.....a wise man pauses where fools rush in. Mitchell is an upgrade over Jalen right now, but not enough of an upgrade to warrent giving up more than the #3 this year, Jalen and salary fillers IMO. Mitchell is good, but he only played 55 games this year while Jalen played 82. that counts for something IMO. I don't care how good you are if you hardly ever play. this is a trend with Mitchell. don't forget he missed the last 2 playoff games his team played due to injury. Jalen at this point is a more durable player who is still rising. wouldn't it be premature to abandon the plan right before the payoff. I say forget Mitchell, stay the course. I still believe Brooklyn will be bad at least another year or 2. Stone has proven his drafting ability to me. for now continue to build and develope and wait for something better than Mitchell to shake loose. if Jalen blossoms this coming season under Ime's guidance this may turn out to be the best trade we never made. a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush
Word!
Mitchell's had 1 injury filled yr (this yr) in his 6 or 7 yr career. Prior to this yr he never missed more than 14 gms. In today's NBA, he's been very durable
@@RobertLandHoustonSportsTalk I disagree Robert. Mitchell in his 7 years in the league has played 1. 79 2. 77. 3. 69 4. 53 5. 67 6. 68 7. 55 he has missed double digit games 5 of the 7 years he has played with only the 1st two years being the exceptions. he is not durable and it is a trend IMO
He averaged missing less than 10 gms a season prior to this yr. That's 6 of his 7 seasons. 2 of those seasons were COVID, Samuel. Plus, some of his missed games might've been due to COVID. That's more research than I want to do. Some of his missed games could've been load management. Again, I'd have to check. He's not an injury problem. This isn't Embiid. He's been incredibly durable considering he's carried his teams as a PG
@@RobertLandHoustonSportsTalk I looked this up...... in 3 of the last 4 years including this one Mitchell has missed at least 15 games with 2 of those years missing 27 and 29 games. that's more than a quater of the season in the rehab room. I don't know what you defind as durable, but to me that's not durable
No Mitchell please
I'm a Rockets fan and Steelers fan. Stephen Nelson is an Absolutel Dirtbag!! He did the same b.s in Pittsburgh!! Wherever he goes, he Burns Bridges! He thinks he's better than he is!! Has a terrible attitude. Be glad yall moved on
LOL! Career suicide
I think Jalen will want to be traded too. Yes! Jalen will play in other teams. So excited!!
You say "win now mode" question is; win what exactly?
The rest of the team is too far from legit contention that an ancillary upgrade is needless. Booker and Tatum are the only ones I'd make a move like that for
Donovan will be in his prime for 5 yrs - not just next yr. You don't sign him without a long extension (4/5 yrs). Do you think Ime believes they're 3 or 4 yrs away from competing in the upper echelon in the Western Conf or does he believe they're 1 or 2 yrs away? We're about where OKC was last yr. This yr they had the 1 seed. If Presti made the right trade at the deadline, they're in the WCF.
@RobertLandHoustonSportsTalk We may view chasm between SGA and Donovan differently. Mitchell is a phenomenal player and would be an ideal 2nd option on a championship squad. My view is that the organization isn't far from true contention from purely a time perspective, yet rather an efficacy one. A true #1 option is the hardest thing to acquire in the league but once you have one, they can lead a young squad to a deep run. Unless the thinking is that having Mitchell on the roster makes Houston a desirable destination for those kinds of players down the road, that's a valid point. However on his own, I don't belive Mitchell moves the needle enough. Would rather keep the powder dry, as it were, should one become available this season. There is no urgency as of yet, no need to manufacture it. It's easily possible that through internal growth and increased familiarity with Udoka, we win 50 games without sacrificing valuable assets. Would rather wait to see what shakes loose by the deadline
@@jeremykass4597 If he's the 2nd option on a championship team & you still have 4 potential 1st options, what's wrong with that? I never said now you got the guy to win the championship - but you're a helluva lot closer. What if Jalen puts up another yr like this yr next yr? Then what are you doing with him? Jabari's not gonna be better than Donovan. I'm telling you that right now
@RobertLandHoustonSportsTalk I would contend that the only players we currently have whose ceiling has presented as a top 5 talent, however unlikely it is they attain it at any point; are Sengun, Green and Whitmore. In a vacuum, there is no debate that Donovan would immediately become the best player on this team, and it is extremely unlikely any of our core develops into substantially better players than he is currently. I fully agree with that sentiment and understand the logic of acquiring an asset like that when/if they become available. However, given the volatility of player demands and tracking current trends, it isn't outside the realm of possibility that players like Giannis, Booker, or even Tatum become available by the next deadline. I don't believe the rockets would be able to offer the greatest collection of assets yet still represent a fairly desirable situation with the coach and city involved, should the player make a specific demand. However, should we go in on a Donovan level player and sacrifice the assets required, it would preclude our ability to field an even respectable offer for a significant talent. This is all ignoring the possibility that the natural mental and physical maturation processes our current talent is undergoing yields substantive returns in the immediate. If we'd had 4 years under Udoka, the data we've received would be far more useful. As it stands, the way this team closed the season warrants a further look. My reasoning is that unless an upper echelon talent, like the aforementioned 3, is being acquired- this off-season is not our consolidation period in regards to "core 6." Presti did make a mistake but only because he waited until the deadline, his team had legitimate capability to contend but addressable holes and then did nothing. Time is our ally, which is incredibly valuable. The organizational perogitive is currently a playoff appearance. I feel we should see how the team looks the first few months of season before considering drastic measures.
@@jeremykass4597 Not only does a star have to become available, he has to want to come to your team. His agents can't be demanding another team
no no no no
Rerout Vanvleet to LA, they need a PG and we could use a good shooter/scorer off the bench with Reaves. Maybe even squeeze out some of those super far out lakers picks as well. Sounds like a win win to me, Lakers get a great PG and we fix our undersized backcourt problem
I don't want NOTHING the Lakers have Davis and Lebron included😵💫
I really want Mitchell here, we have the assets to get it done and we know Stone and Ime want to win. We can beat out anyone's offer for him the question is does Mitchell want to come here and is willing to sign an extension here