Better, worse, they just tickle a different bone for me. I do find more engagement in a novel, but comics can be exceptionally powerful as well. Either of them can exhibit bad writing, but at least a comic's mediocre story can be read as an entertaining picture book.
I've created both. when i wrote stories, it was actually the prose where i did the best, but my silly characters and dumb plot didn't fit the medium as well as when I recreated the style of story into my comics. so my wonky little stories work better in one medium than the other. plus action is easier to do in comics, and more entertaining, but drawing it takes more time as compared to writing the action. novels are better suited for high art as more can be conveyed, (currently reading lotr, and imagining that as a comic book, well, that would be one huge comic.) but comics do have an untapped potential, but more often than not comics are better suited for lowbrow entertainment.
The internal aspect of the character is what makes books interesting and powerful to me. The thoughts, feelings and sensations that a character has that's not visible on the surface, aside from seeing someone laugh or cry or wincing in pain, but even then you're still not getting the true thoughts and feelings of the character. I remember my brother talking about Metro 2033 and how almost a full page was about the anxiety Artyom felt as he entered one of the metro tunnels, going really deep into that aspect, that's not something you're gonna get from a visual medium. Or how William Gibson describes Night City in Neuromancer by going into how Case feels about the place, what he sees, smells, feels, what he remembers. Any internal dialogues they have, internal struggles, what they're thinking exactly as they're interacting with other characters. Of course, visual media has the benefit of visual art itself, and you can make the *viewer* feel specific things by painting it (literally and figuratively) in different ways using different kinds of art design, aesthetics, cinematography. For example the way the city *feels* really dirty in Taxi Driver and Joker simply by showing it a certain way.
Currently finishing up and getting ready to self-publish my comic (I literally just have a few questions for my printer about formatting and then it’s ready to go). What I’ve found the most challenging about writing the book is that I have to be constantly mindful about space and placement of the text on each page. You can’t just suffocate or bury the art under blocks of text, so I really found myself having to boil down my story to just the most essential elements in order to keep everything moving. Then there is also the challenge of placing the text into the panels so that it doesn’t obscure the art AND so that it’s easy for the reader to understand what order the word balloons are intended to be read in. All this while not summarizing your story so much that you leave out important details or create plot holes. For saddle stitched comics, there is the added challenge of your page count being required to increase only in 4 page increments. So if you have a 32 page book and you need to add more story pages, then you have to add four pages, you can’t just add one or two (or you need to find something to fill those extra pages). Fortunately, I’m doing the art and writing for my book, so if I need to change the art in some way to serve the story, then that usually only takes a few minutes. So there are a lot of unique challenges for comic writers that novelists don’t really have to think about.
What i find most interesting about comic is how the writer/artist controls time. A single standoff panel without dialogue could lasts a long time to read, and in another panel a thousand punch could land in one second. Also Silence panels. They are great for building tensions, or montage, Novels can't have silence, a shame because it's a very powerful tool.
@@samuelhaines820 films these don't know what silence is. They always blast our ears with music to tell us what to think. "Hey this is a happy scene, so here's a HAPPY MUSIC" "this one is a sad scene, so SAD MUSIC" instead of letting the actors do their job
@@Selrisitaican't believe i have to explain this, it's figurative not literal silence (unless if you count the paper rustling). what i meant by silence is the absence of words.
I gotta say; Of all the folks I watch on YT, you've got some of the most wholesome videos. I listened to that livestream you did with Brian, and found it to be quite heartening.
I've been turning a short story I wrote into a webcomic for WebToon. Writing it was pretty fast for me and I edited maybe 3 or 4 times. It really wasn't that hard. Turning it into a comic, on the other hand, has proven to be waaaaaaaaay more work for me since I do all the art and colouring myself. Plus there's the task of deciding on an art style I feel works with the tone and figuring out how to draw all the things I easily described in my story from multiple angles. So for me, making a comic is harder. But getting the comic seen was easier than getting the written short story seen. There are definitely pros and cons to both
Each has their trials and techniques. For comics you really have to find a writer/art team that gels and can communicate. With prose: It comes down to the writer's wheelhouse and what they want to see. SO that's why some writing will pull in tons of people vs niche genres or settings.
I love graphic novels that are formatted at 27x20x1cm... they fit easily into a padfolio and you can take them out and draw from them before putting them back. I've got a few Tintin-inspired books by Eric Heuvel that fit this bill.
I suppose it depends on the person, but for me writing a comic is way harder than drawing it. However, I've only drawn my own comic scripts. My brain just explodes of I even entertain the idea of writing a novel. Lolz
It’s interesting that you use the word “accessible” to describe comics. As a totally blind person, I have a different perspective on that. Comics aren’t accessible to me, at all. While I can scan them in, as I would a novel when it is not sold in either audio or ebook formats, OCR (optical character recognition) software cannot really adapt comics in any meaningful way. Even if I get them in electronic form, the literal inability to do any kind of adaptation of pictures into words via automated techniques means that, unless an alternative form such as an audio drama is produced for a given comic, I’m out of luck as far as that particular story is concerned. It’s too bad really, as there are some things that are only produced in comic form that I really do want to read (old Star Wars Legacy comics for example). I’ve often thought about engaging someone, or several someones, to adapt such comics and I’d be willing to pay them to do it, however licensing and publishing rights typically stop these efforts dead before they even get off the ground. I’m not saying anything against comics, just offering my perspective as a fellow reader.
Love Both Formats, But I like the deeper stories in novels. Have Boxes of old school Comics & Manga. Can you get John on a Pub-Talk, Or a Comic Guy like Literature Devil?
Novels for me now. Not into comics much anymore unless it's quality. I really like Image comics and Top Cow. While I am much more into novels, comics are a no-brainer for storyboarding and I think graphic novel adaptations should be made regardless of sales.
You might have noticed J Ishida & Kat's series "Adventures in Awful" had been dipping into YA books based on comics instead of comics... and comics writers who are already inept double down in prose.
I used to be into Marvel. Now, I like esoteric comics of other stories. I like history and comics that even deal with actual subject material. I am one of the few who even liked Jack Chick.
Been reading some French Romantics (Gautier) and Realists (Flaubert).... Theophile Gautier has some very light fairy tale stories... and even Flaubert has a touch of the pulp style which could be rendered by various artists. Mostly however... the sweet spot is a serious book with quality etchings.
One thing that I can’t figure out how to do on prose, is to call the PoV’s attention to some detail without making it obvious. In a comic you can put a hint off of the center of the panel and inPut those... lines you use to show the character perceived something... and follow up with the story, pulling that information only when it is relevant. Meanwhile, in a book, to indicate the PoV got an information you need to write what was it that it saw
I see! Personally would love to see you continue as you provide a critical lense to the franchise which is sorely lacked elsewhere. There simply aren’t other reviewers that explain the creative flaws and quality of storytelling in Disney’s Star Wars to the level you have.
"The tanks are not as good" I see somebody doesn't read thin books. But I guess you wouldn't. You got a wife, your sex drive is a thing of the past. Fufufufu
Better, worse, they just tickle a different bone for me. I do find more engagement in a novel, but comics can be exceptionally powerful as well. Either of them can exhibit bad writing, but at least a comic's mediocre story can be read as an entertaining picture book.
Nice. Can you do a Hollywood VS Anime video and a Manga VS Comics video?
Sounds good to me.
There isn't much of a difference between manga and comics other than tropes and writing styles
I've created both. when i wrote stories, it was actually the prose where i did the best, but my silly characters and dumb plot didn't fit the medium as well as when I recreated the style of story into my comics.
so my wonky little stories work better in one medium than the other. plus action is easier to do in comics, and more entertaining, but drawing it takes more time as compared to writing the action.
novels are better suited for high art as more can be conveyed, (currently reading lotr, and imagining that as a comic book, well, that would be one huge comic.) but comics do have an untapped potential, but more often than not comics are better suited for lowbrow entertainment.
The internal aspect of the character is what makes books interesting and powerful to me. The thoughts, feelings and sensations that a character has that's not visible on the surface, aside from seeing someone laugh or cry or wincing in pain, but even then you're still not getting the true thoughts and feelings of the character. I remember my brother talking about Metro 2033 and how almost a full page was about the anxiety Artyom felt as he entered one of the metro tunnels, going really deep into that aspect, that's not something you're gonna get from a visual medium. Or how William Gibson describes Night City in Neuromancer by going into how Case feels about the place, what he sees, smells, feels, what he remembers. Any internal dialogues they have, internal struggles, what they're thinking exactly as they're interacting with other characters.
Of course, visual media has the benefit of visual art itself, and you can make the *viewer* feel specific things by painting it (literally and figuratively) in different ways using different kinds of art design, aesthetics, cinematography. For example the way the city *feels* really dirty in Taxi Driver and Joker simply by showing it a certain way.
Currently finishing up and getting ready to self-publish my comic (I literally just have a few questions for my printer about formatting and then it’s ready to go). What I’ve found the most challenging about writing the book is that I have to be constantly mindful about space and placement of the text on each page. You can’t just suffocate or bury the art under blocks of text, so I really found myself having to boil down my story to just the most essential elements in order to keep everything moving.
Then there is also the challenge of placing the text into the panels so that it doesn’t obscure the art AND so that it’s easy for the reader to understand what order the word balloons are intended to be read in. All this while not summarizing your story so much that you leave out important details or create plot holes.
For saddle stitched comics, there is the added challenge of your page count being required to increase only in 4 page increments. So if you have a 32 page book and you need to add more story pages, then you have to add four pages, you can’t just add one or two (or you need to find something to fill those extra pages).
Fortunately, I’m doing the art and writing for my book, so if I need to change the art in some way to serve the story, then that usually only takes a few minutes.
So there are a lot of unique challenges for comic writers that novelists don’t really have to think about.
What i find most interesting about comic is how the writer/artist controls time. A single standoff panel without dialogue could lasts a long time to read, and in another panel a thousand punch could land in one second.
Also Silence panels. They are great for building tensions, or montage, Novels can't have silence, a shame because it's a very powerful tool.
@@samuelhaines820 films these don't know what silence is. They always blast our ears with music to tell us what to think. "Hey this is a happy scene, so here's a HAPPY MUSIC" "this one is a sad scene, so SAD MUSIC" instead of letting the actors do their job
@@Selrisitaican't believe i have to explain this, it's figurative not literal silence (unless if you count the paper rustling). what i meant by silence is the absence of words.
I gotta say; Of all the folks I watch on YT, you've got some of the most wholesome videos. I listened to that livestream you did with Brian, and found it to be quite heartening.
Novels and manga for me, western comics have largely lost their charm for me.
That's true
@@sarwinraaj3457same
I've been turning a short story I wrote into a webcomic for WebToon. Writing it was pretty fast for me and I edited maybe 3 or 4 times. It really wasn't that hard.
Turning it into a comic, on the other hand, has proven to be waaaaaaaaay more work for me since I do all the art and colouring myself. Plus there's the task of deciding on an art style I feel works with the tone and figuring out how to draw all the things I easily described in my story from multiple angles.
So for me, making a comic is harder.
But getting the comic seen was easier than getting the written short story seen. There are definitely pros and cons to both
Each has their trials and techniques. For comics you really have to find a writer/art team that gels and can communicate. With prose: It comes down to the writer's wheelhouse and what they want to see. SO that's why some writing will pull in tons of people vs niche genres or settings.
I love graphic novels that are formatted at 27x20x1cm... they fit easily into a padfolio and you can take them out and draw from them before putting them back. I've got a few Tintin-inspired books by Eric Heuvel that fit this bill.
I suppose it depends on the person, but for me writing a comic is way harder than drawing it. However, I've only drawn my own comic scripts. My brain just explodes of I even entertain the idea of writing a novel. Lolz
It’s interesting that you use the word “accessible” to describe comics. As a totally blind person, I have a different perspective on that. Comics aren’t accessible to me, at all. While I can scan them in, as I would a novel when it is not sold in either audio or ebook formats, OCR (optical character recognition) software cannot really adapt comics in any meaningful way. Even if I get them in electronic form, the literal inability to do any kind of adaptation of pictures into words via automated techniques means that, unless an alternative form such as an audio drama is produced for a given comic, I’m out of luck as far as that particular story is concerned.
It’s too bad really, as there are some things that are only produced in comic form that I really do want to read (old Star Wars Legacy comics for example). I’ve often thought about engaging someone, or several someones, to adapt such comics and I’d be willing to pay them to do it, however licensing and publishing rights typically stop these efforts dead before they even get off the ground. I’m not saying anything against comics, just offering my perspective as a fellow reader.
Love Both Formats, But I like the deeper stories in novels. Have Boxes of old school Comics & Manga. Can you get John on a Pub-Talk, Or a Comic Guy like Literature Devil?
Comics are better! But deep stories are sweet?
No to literature devil. He's an evs shill
Novels for me now. Not into comics much anymore unless it's quality. I really like Image comics and Top Cow. While I am much more into novels, comics are a no-brainer for storyboarding and I think graphic novel adaptations should be made regardless of sales.
You might have noticed J Ishida & Kat's series "Adventures in Awful" had been dipping into YA books based on comics instead of comics... and comics writers who are already inept double down in prose.
I used to be into Marvel. Now, I like esoteric comics of other stories. I like history and comics that even deal with actual subject material. I am one of the few who even liked Jack Chick.
Been reading some French Romantics (Gautier) and Realists (Flaubert).... Theophile Gautier has some very light fairy tale stories... and even Flaubert has a touch of the pulp style which could be rendered by various artists. Mostly however... the sweet spot is a serious book with quality etchings.
One thing that I can’t figure out how to do on prose, is to call the PoV’s attention to some detail without making it obvious. In a comic you can put a hint off of the center of the panel and inPut those... lines you use to show the character perceived something... and follow up with the story, pulling that information only when it is relevant. Meanwhile, in a book, to indicate the PoV got an information you need to write what was it that it saw
Its hard to find a decent comic if its not manga.
Yeah it's hard to write a 16 to 32-page story outside the manga format.
Novels are better but I like that comic "Conspiracy" by Zenescope
novels duh, its potentially dozens of hours vs 1hr tops. cheaper too
Quality > quantity, longer doesn't always mean better.. that's what she said
Hi David. Will you be reviewing the Mandalorian once again?
I've considered deleting all Star wars content from the channel
I see! Personally would love to see you continue as you provide a critical lense to the franchise which is sorely lacked elsewhere. There simply aren’t other reviewers that explain the creative flaws and quality of storytelling in Disney’s Star Wars to the level you have.
@@DVSPress why?
What about telenovelas?
"The tanks are not as good"
I see somebody doesn't read thin books. But I guess you wouldn't. You got a wife, your sex drive is a thing of the past. Fufufufu