I do Supermarket Refrigeration and our service techs aren’t trained to be salesman like residential guys we like to repair coils and make the equipment last as long as possible
Refrigeration Technology - The boss is usually more worried about sales than employees. His bonus is dependent on how many customers can be conned into buying new equipment.
@@picklerix6162 I like to do it all, residential and commercial because I make $7/hr more than the service manager and 9 more than the install manager. If the phone rings or they sell it I'm the guy that can do it all. Ready to retire at 51. It paid off.
@@NikoBellaKhouf I'm in the sheet metal union, specifically commercial and industrial install.( mainly installing Duct, roof top units , exhaust fans etc.)... In the trade doing what I do, Chicago actually pays more per hour. Maybe your referring to non union or HVAC service technicians?
@@sealedsecure3754 yeah, non- Union work. Entry level service technicians used to start at $25 to 30 per hour. After about 10 years experience, you could expect $50 per hour. That was like over a decade ago though. Now they start a service tech at $9 per hour at some jobs like the Home Ice company. I need to find me a union job. Would contacting the union itself help?
@@NikoBellaKhouf Yea I strongly urge guys to get in the union, not for any political reasons( I'm a conservative 😉) but strictly for the benefits and pay and excellent training you receive during your apprenticeship. Right now in Wisconsin, after your 5th year as an apprentice in the sheet metal Union, your a journeyman and making 47 dollars an hour. And if your a foreman you make over 50.. right now as a 3rd year apprentice I make 30.36 on the check as of June 1st of this year. The trade changed my life and my family's life 4sure. Such a blessing
@@sealedsecure3754 I lean conservative myself but there's no denying that unions have done a lot for workers. That political crap they're on happened because workers let politicians hijack the unions. I got in it thinking it would change my life in a positive way, but the school that I went to couldn't keep any of their promises. They promised that I'd start making close to $30 per hour (same as what my research showed). Six months later when I was done, they kept trying to place me in $9 per hour jobs. No union. No benefits. Crappy conditions. I got discouraged and left to do something else. Now I'm trying to get back in, but in a smarter way hopefully.
I’m an introvert and started in residential service/repair 2 years ago. I’m transitioning to residential install so I dont have to handle customers anymore. I greatly appreciate the service side because it taught me how things work, how to install in favor for the next tech and improved lacking social skills.
I was in residential for almost two years and recently changed to commercial/Industrial. Residential was really fun and taught me a lot. Every house had an issue and I got to learn so much just by following the "Why". Commercial/Industrial so far is very different. Much more emphasis on workmanship and deadlines. I loved talking to people but love problem solving more. So far I am happy with the change. Just make sure you are ready to work. Good breakdown imo
I started in commercial installation, and it was great but did not learn a lot other then running and burning pipe. I got into commercial/industrial service after that and struggled and fumbled my way through for a while, but came out okay on the other end, much happier where I am, and learned to love the trade even more.
I do commercial restaurant equipment and 1 thing that I think is important to point out is skill floors. I can say enough how much higher the minimum skill needed for commercial is over residential, I only got 2 months fresh out of school before I was out on my own, on call, and expected to be able to walk up to a piece of equipment like a bakery oven, or proofer that I have never seen before and not only figure out how it works but why it's not working, there are people in my office who have been doing this for 10+ years who see types of equipment they have never worked on. That's a tall order for someone right out of school and I don't think it is a challenge most new techs would be ok with, also it is the reason my company has such a high turn over.
I needed this video! Haha! I am currently a Reefer Tech of 10 years and looking for a change. I have been leaning towards commercial/industrial seeing as I’m always by myself anyway as a road technician. Thanks for the video! 👍🏼
I started on new construction track home install then moved onto commercial installations. Now I work at a casino and really have all aspects of hvacr. Chillers, vavs, all types of refrigerators, ice machines etc. its alot!
I'm a commercial guy. To me there's nothing worse than tiptoeing around homeowners nick-nacks and worrying about every little smudge while trying to do my job.😡
I been doing residential for almost 5 years and just got into the pipefitter union. Now headed to commercial. Not going to miss the hoarder homes and cat ladies. But have learned alot in the residential side
I’m just barely starting out, and I feel that commercial is the best fit for me. But currently it looks like my only way in is residential. I gotta start somewhere I guess.
I have a kid on the way and I absolutely want to spend time with my family and be a family man as much as possible. Does commercial have the most consistent hours?
21 years old, been doing residential for 5 years and making a move into commercial. I’m an extrovert and less technically skilled but hopefully I can make this transition with a high level of skill. I’m starting at 33 an hour in 5 days, testing with the union tomorrow. Wish me luck!
21y/o with 5 years of experience? Damn you started young. Did you have connections in the trade to allow you to work somewhere so young or was a company just ballsy enough to hire a high schooler? Also, how's the move to commercial been?
I've been a residential lead Installer/serviceman in Arizona for a year now and already hate the job. I think it's time for a change to commercial or something where I don't need to be in attics all the time and handle customers 24/7. I'll happily take a pay cut at this point if it just means I can work a little less, spend time with my family more, and not break my body as much.
I currently work commercial but am leaning towards residential. I’m a bigger guy, don’t like working in small spaces, and I really don’t like ladders and have had multiple experiences where I almost fell off of the ladder when getting onto it from the rooftop here in snowy upstate New York. I also took a residentially focused course and I miss interacting more with people
Apply as a Boiler Maker/Johnson controls chiller technician apprentice etc. Im 21 and I'm currently a power plant operator, but If i could do something else that's what i would do!
Started in light commercial refrigeration. Went to school for basically residential straight cool ac. Switched from reefer to commercial installs and duct work. Then went to building management and chiller maintenance but Corona. Bug shut that down. Now in residential service.. with all I have seen I miss commercial . either way I'm trying to learn the measure quick app. Thanks
I am in a residential company and i love my coworkers and supervisor but I hate having to be so careful around other peoples stuff and always having to sell stuff I think after I finish this internship I will move to commercial
Just got into an apprenticeship on windsor locks ct hopefully I can do my time on residential and learn all I can from this so I can move to commercial and industrial and refrigeration
I’m staring out with the trade as an apprentice with a company that does mostly commercial work. Is it better when you’re starting out to get into residential or commercial?
Answer: you don’t. I found it very difficult to break into commercial HVAC. It’s a chicken and egg problem. You can’t get a job in commercial HVAC without several years experience and you can’t get experience without getting hired by a company that does commercial HVAC. You might get lucky and find a company that will train you though. I could never find one of those companies.
this statement is all! I started out at a commercial company and became a tech at 20 years old but a bad management team that’s all about “me me me” makes it not a good experience
great info except discussing quite a bit between introvert and extrovert. Maybe focus more the differences between the industries instead of personalities
If you wanna be happy and not have to deal with customers who breathe down your neck and you are pushed to the edge with having to get done with jobs fast every day,Go commercial,your life will be easier,No attics is also a huge plus.
I’m in Hcc (Houston Community College) taking Hvac classes. But I wanna work with a friend (Helper) that does installations. and get my license to get my own business in the future once I get experience. But I wanna get my Certificate in Hcc just in case lol
@@jonathanortega8089 I was at HCC then went to Altierus to get my Diploma Im going to do a apprenticeship that will make me travel from Houston to Louisiana
Don't pick one...do it all, you'll never look for a job. Ive done residential, commercial, fab and industrial. Install and service. Sales the entire time as well. It's all heating n a/c....
Is it possible to transition from a 313D license to a 313A license without having to start over as a first year apprentice ? Asking from Ontario Canada.
Very good, here’s one King James Version (KJV) Bible verse...”But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer. And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.” 1 Peter 4:7-8 - www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=1%20Peter%204:7-8&version=KJV
Also with sales, nexstar and Joe crisiara is complete BS. Ms Jones, you need a new voltage Absorption system and your air distribution pump system has a electromechanical fault. 3000 Dollars to make correction...F that shit, complete scam
Residential is harder than commercial. If you ask 100 senior techs to choose they will choose commercial Residential you have to deal with a lot of people , different equipment, ductless units , crawl space and attics And the dumb installations Where there is a washing machine put up against a furnace door lol or you got a costumer crawling in afther you in a attic with no floor just beams with a huge acctlyne tank lol or you have them just watching you do a maintenance and telling you how to do it. Residential hvac , you have to move your -- and there no time bull sh it It’s either you know or you don’t. Get in and get out. Fix it or you we’ll be fix lol
@@083rt apply for the position, then they will send you to school or find a school the has ammonia class. They price for the class is about $2,400 some are cheaper but they all teach the same theory.
I met a guy who went to school to learn ammonia refrigeration. He said the University of Minnesota had a program that taught students about ammonia refrigeration.
@@NemoTheGlover still no. I worked on resi for 6 years in the best company in town with high end customer base still sucks ass most of the time if its not the customer is the equipment location, dogs, attics, crawl spaces, shoe covers, stinky houses, hoarders, spiders, ticks in the summer, million calls a day, relies on sales to make a decent wage even if youre a great tech u still gotta be a good salesman the list goes on
The best sales tech can convince a customer to buy something that he/she doesn’t really need. According to a former coworker, fear (your compressor could fail at any time) works best on women and old people. The job is made easier if the customer has an older R-22 system. Some techs will outright lie to their customers by saying there’s a leak in the evaporator or tell the customer that they need an expensive hard start kit when the problem is just a burned wire.
I do Supermarket Refrigeration and our service techs aren’t trained to be salesman like residential guys we like to repair coils and make the equipment last as long as possible
Refrigeration Mechanic did you go to Hvac school? Did you start residential first or you specifically study supermarket Refrigeration
Ive started in residential and i can say this. If you arent more talented in sales than technicality then you wont make it.
I'd rather fix something than worry about my commission.. to be honest
Refrigeration Technology - The boss is usually more worried about sales than employees. His bonus is dependent on how many customers can be conned into buying new equipment.
@@refrigerationtechnology7858 Yes Sir!. That is one reason I want to switch to commercial.
My top 3 reasons for going commercial
1. No sales
2. Minimal crawlspaces and attics.
3. Easy access to bathrooms
The bathrooms are key 😂
So true
So true
I liked commercial refrigeration because there was no attic work.
@@picklerix6162 I like to do it all, residential and commercial because I make $7/hr more than the service manager and 9 more than the install manager. If the phone rings or they sell it I'm the guy that can do it all. Ready to retire at 51. It paid off.
32 yrs old, 4th yr apprentice, making $35 an hr on the check as apprentice.Milwaukee,WI, local 18. Commercial HVAC . Love the trade👍👍👍💪
Real nice. They barely pay half that around Chicago.
@@NikoBellaKhouf
I'm in the sheet metal union, specifically commercial and industrial install.( mainly installing Duct, roof top units , exhaust fans etc.)... In the trade doing what I do, Chicago actually pays more per hour. Maybe your referring to non union or HVAC service technicians?
@@sealedsecure3754 yeah, non- Union work. Entry level service technicians used to start at $25 to 30 per hour. After about 10 years experience, you could expect $50 per hour. That was like over a decade ago though. Now they start a service tech at $9 per hour at some jobs like the Home Ice company. I need to find me a union job. Would contacting the union itself help?
@@NikoBellaKhouf
Yea I strongly urge guys to get in the union, not for any political reasons( I'm a conservative 😉) but strictly for the benefits and pay and excellent training you receive during your apprenticeship. Right now in Wisconsin, after your 5th year as an apprentice in the sheet metal Union, your a journeyman and making 47 dollars an hour. And if your a foreman you make over 50.. right now as a 3rd year apprentice I make 30.36 on the check as of June 1st of this year. The trade changed my life and my family's life 4sure. Such a blessing
@@sealedsecure3754 I lean conservative myself but there's no denying that unions have done a lot for workers. That political crap they're on happened because workers let politicians hijack the unions.
I got in it thinking it would change my life in a positive way, but the school that I went to couldn't keep any of their promises. They promised that I'd start making close to $30 per hour (same as what my research showed). Six months later when I was done, they kept trying to place me in $9 per hour jobs. No union. No benefits. Crappy conditions. I got discouraged and left to do something else. Now I'm trying to get back in, but in a smarter way hopefully.
I’m an introvert and started in residential service/repair 2 years ago. I’m transitioning to residential install so I dont have to handle customers anymore. I greatly appreciate the service side because it taught me how things work, how to install in favor for the next tech and improved lacking social skills.
I was in residential for almost two years and recently changed to commercial/Industrial.
Residential was really fun and taught me a lot. Every house had an issue and I got to learn so much just by following the "Why".
Commercial/Industrial so far is very different. Much more emphasis on workmanship and deadlines. I loved talking to people but love problem solving more. So far I am happy with the change.
Just make sure you are ready to work.
Good breakdown imo
I started in commercial installation, and it was great but did not learn a lot other then running and burning pipe. I got into commercial/industrial service after that and struggled and fumbled my way through for a while, but came out okay on the other end, much happier where I am, and learned to love the trade even more.
what is the work/life balance like in industrial?
I do commercial restaurant equipment and 1 thing that I think is important to point out is skill floors. I can say enough how much higher the minimum skill needed for commercial is over residential, I only got 2 months fresh out of school before I was out on my own, on call, and expected to be able to walk up to a piece of equipment like a bakery oven, or proofer that I have never seen before and not only figure out how it works but why it's not working, there are people in my office who have been doing this for 10+ years who see types of equipment they have never worked on. That's a tall order for someone right out of school and I don't think it is a challenge most new techs would be ok with, also it is the reason my company has such a high turn over.
bro I only got a month😭
I needed this video! Haha! I am currently a Reefer Tech of 10 years and looking for a change. I have been leaning towards commercial/industrial seeing as I’m always by myself anyway as a road technician. Thanks for the video! 👍🏼
I started on new construction track home install then moved onto commercial installations. Now I work at a casino and really have all aspects of hvacr. Chillers, vavs, all types of refrigerators, ice machines etc. its alot!
I'm a commercial guy. To me there's nothing worse than tiptoeing around homeowners nick-nacks and worrying about every little smudge while trying to do my job.😡
Super Nova I’m considering moving to commercial I’m tired of dealing with customer s
I personally don't like walking on people floors and carpets. They're soo dirty sometimes.
I'm In Commercial as well did residential for years got so tired of dealing with weird homeowners
@@didafm dude I have been in some gross houses
I been doing residential for almost 5 years and just got into the pipefitter union. Now headed to commercial. Not going to miss the hoarder homes and cat ladies. But have learned alot in the residential side
🤣 those crawl spaces the worst
I’m just barely starting out, and I feel that commercial is the best fit for me. But currently it looks like my only way in is residential. I gotta start somewhere I guess.
Same !
Same .
I have a kid on the way and I absolutely want to spend time with my family and be a family man as much as possible. Does commercial have the most consistent hours?
21 years old, been doing residential for 5 years and making a move into commercial. I’m an extrovert and less technically skilled but hopefully I can make this transition with a high level of skill. I’m starting at 33 an hour in 5 days, testing with the union tomorrow. Wish me luck!
21y/o with 5 years of experience? Damn you started young. Did you have connections in the trade to allow you to work somewhere so young or was a company just ballsy enough to hire a high schooler? Also, how's the move to commercial been?
Good luck, kill it!!
I've been a residential lead Installer/serviceman in Arizona for a year now and already hate the job. I think it's time for a change to commercial or something where I don't need to be in attics all the time and handle customers 24/7. I'll happily take a pay cut at this point if it just means I can work a little less, spend time with my family more, and not break my body as much.
I currently work commercial but am leaning towards residential. I’m a bigger guy, don’t like working in small spaces, and I really don’t like ladders and have had multiple experiences where I almost fell off of the ladder when getting onto it from the rooftop here in snowy upstate New York. I also took a residentially focused course and I miss interacting more with people
Residential is worse your crawling into to tight attics and you deal with a lot of dumbass customers
I do commercial HVAC. I would like to do industrial HVAC.
Than refrigeration will take you that way or chillers
Apply as a Boiler Maker/Johnson controls chiller technician apprentice etc.
Im 21 and I'm currently a power plant operator, but If i could do something else that's what i would do!
To me that's kind of like the big leagues.
@@JAYBPY not really, wherever you go there are shitty insecure bitter technicians that BS’ed there way to the top
No one mentioned working for yourself in residential or commercial/industrial. Has anyone tried? What were the obstacles? What were the benefits?
Good question!.😊❤
This is what I am looking For also. Preferably residential.
I love Residential HVAC
Started in light commercial refrigeration. Went to school for basically residential straight cool ac. Switched from reefer to commercial installs and duct work.
Then went to building management and chiller maintenance but Corona. Bug shut that down. Now in residential service.. with all I have seen I miss commercial .
either way I'm trying to learn the measure quick app. Thanks
Start in commercial instillation Monday, can’t wait to learn
How's that been going
I am in a residential company and i love my coworkers and supervisor but I hate having to be so careful around other peoples stuff and always having to sell stuff I think after I finish this internship I will move to commercial
Just got into an apprenticeship on windsor locks ct hopefully I can do my time on residential and learn all I can from this so I can move to commercial and industrial and refrigeration
So for newly graduated HVAC technician which one is better?? I need some tips , thanks
I guess I’ll start with residential till I get comfortable enough to get to commercial.
Love the info and I have question, is the formula for finding cfm with electric heat 3phase the same as residents single phase
I’m staring out with the trade as an apprentice with a company that does mostly commercial work. Is it better when you’re starting out to get into residential or commercial?
I started out in commercial. Has worked out great and learned a lot
What I like about commercial, no joe crisara sales tactics or nexstar
I started on commercial which I love chillers and boilers and pulse boilers
Whats the difference between commercial techs and operators in commercial buildings?
How would a student graduating with a degree, get a job in a commercial or industrial setting to start with little to no experience?
Tbone B Try a school district
Answer: you don’t. I found it very difficult to break into commercial HVAC. It’s a chicken and egg problem. You can’t get a job in commercial HVAC without several years experience and you can’t get experience without getting hired by a company that does commercial HVAC. You might get lucky and find a company that will train you though. I could never find one of those companies.
Network. Check out your local union and no union shops. Aptitude and attitude is key.
FIND A MANAGMENT THAT FITS YOU! Culture is everything. Do you want WE or I?!
this statement is all! I started out at a commercial company and became a tech at 20 years old but a bad management team that’s all about “me me me” makes it not a good experience
So true
Industrial sounds like my goal!
Im gonna move to AZ for trade school. And i wanted to know what the difference was and what was better res vs comm
Please make videos about 2020 Tesla Hvac makeup HVAC business how will affect our business?
great info except discussing quite a bit between introvert and extrovert. Maybe focus more the differences between the industries instead of personalities
Those are sweet headphones, who made them?
Should hvac tech have experience on hvac fabrication?
I'm honestly trying to broaden my experience looking for hoe different it is I'm used to industrial and commercial never touched a single house tho
Some good information and advice
If you wanna be happy and not have to deal with customers who breathe down your neck and you are pushed to the edge with having to get done with jobs fast every day,Go commercial,your life will be easier,No attics is also a huge plus.
Im fresh out of school and starting with a commercial company any advice????
I have a problem in pipe sizing Can you help me it is very useful in installing split type of ac
I am starting to study residential
Me too.
Same but installing
I’m in Hcc (Houston Community College) taking Hvac classes. But I wanna work with a friend (Helper) that does installations. and get my license to get my own business in the future once I get experience. But I wanna get my Certificate in Hcc just in case lol
@@jonathanortega8089 I was at HCC then went to Altierus to get my Diploma Im going to do a apprenticeship that will make me travel from Houston to Louisiana
Thanks
Don't pick one...do it all, you'll never look for a job. Ive done residential, commercial, fab and industrial. Install and service. Sales the entire time as well. It's all heating n a/c....
Is it possible to transition from a 313D license to a 313A license without having to start over as a first year apprentice ? Asking from Ontario Canada.
Commercial is a different monster and takes a certain type of personality. Need to be a self motivated go getter. It’s mostly a thankless job.
Industrial?
@@whatsmynameagain4778 do they hire entry level positions if you know?
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A multitude of sins! Haha
That's KJV bro are you a Baptist too?
Very good, here’s one King James Version (KJV) Bible verse...”But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer. And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.”
1 Peter 4:7-8 - www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=1%20Peter%204:7-8&version=KJV
Also with sales, nexstar and Joe crisiara is complete BS. Ms Jones, you need a new voltage Absorption system and your air distribution pump system has a electromechanical fault. 3000 Dollars to make correction...F that shit, complete scam
Residential is harder than commercial. If you ask 100 senior techs to choose they will choose commercial
Residential you have to deal with a lot of people , different equipment, ductless units , crawl space and attics And the dumb installations Where there is a washing machine put up against a furnace door lol or you got a costumer crawling in afther you in a attic with no floor just beams with a huge acctlyne tank lol or you have them just watching you do a maintenance and telling you how to do it. Residential hvac , you have to move your -- and there no time bull sh it It’s either you know or you don’t. Get in and get out. Fix it or you we’ll be fix lol
Ammonia tech .......
Ruben Cruz how do you get into that?
@@083rt apply for the position, then they will send you to school or find a school the has ammonia class. They price for the class is about $2,400 some are cheaper but they all teach the same theory.
Ruben Cruz awesome, thank you sir.
I met a guy who went to school to learn ammonia refrigeration. He said the University of Minnesota had a program that taught students about ammonia refrigeration.
Buy $Shib coin
Residential sucks. Complete joke. Also to much sales.
if you're great with people in a good company in a good region you can make alot of money tho
@@NemoTheGlover still no. I worked on resi for 6 years in the best company in town with high end customer base still sucks ass most of the time if its not the customer is the equipment location, dogs, attics, crawl spaces, shoe covers, stinky houses, hoarders, spiders, ticks in the summer, million calls a day, relies on sales to make a decent wage even if youre a great tech u still gotta be a good salesman the list goes on
The best sales tech can convince a customer to buy something that he/she doesn’t really need. According to a former coworker, fear (your compressor could fail at any time) works best on women and old people. The job is made easier if the customer has an older R-22 system. Some techs will outright lie to their customers by saying there’s a leak in the evaporator or tell the customer that they need an expensive hard start kit when the problem is just a burned wire.