To be honest, I was so happy when Korea lost for holding 2030 World Expo, they don't deserve it, they couldn't even handle a BTS concert in Busan, and they didn't exempt BTS.
They did not seek any exemption, they planned to serve all along. On Suga’s talk show they said they originally planned to take the break after the big 2020 world tour that was cancelled by cov!d. Then they planned a couple more dates but got pushed back by Grammy performances and the Busan concert. It was politicians and representatives of OTHER k-pop groups that wanted their Kpop artists to get exemptions and used BTS’s name without them actually asking for it. As ARMY I am proud they are serving and doing so well. On the recent film where his friend Park Seo Joon and PD Na gave him a surprise early birthday celebration, V even talked about how he heard his father’s stories about his service and how he’s always looked forward to it. He applied for and was approved to be in special forces SDT-which he knows will challenge him. I can’t even begin to imagine the backlash they would get from the public and fans of other groups if they got an exemption. Now they are making everyone proud. 💜
Common sense no one would want to interrupt career high point. Culturally including cancel culture element, they could not have said their true feelings. I believe true feelings were implicit in their waiting to see what government final decision would be after years of some, including previous president, suggesting exemption or shortened service for them. Shortened service would have been so much fairer.
I'm not Korean and i'm no expert in Korea, military, or politics. BUT based on my personal opinion, i think bts could have gotten an exemption if they pushed for one or struck a deal with the government. but bts being bts never asked for an exemption and was always willing to serve. They are also extremely intelligent and KNOWS the implications of being exempted. even if they did get the exemption, they probably would have served anyways. One to shut up all haters, and two, to set a good example for everyone else. All eyes were and are on them and they know this. If they had taken the exemption, the world and the haters would never let it go. Jin even mentioned he wanted to serve, but due to their sudden success and the Busan concert, he had to delay his enlistment and already got so much hate for that. The only reason they would want an exemption, is just to show that they are given the respect that they deserve for all the contributions they have made, but they would still enlist after getting it. I am extremely proud of the boys for taking the matter into their own hands and enlisting on their own terms and not waiting for the government to make up their mind. and to stop using them like puppets. They have contributed enough to the government and by enlisting they are getting rid of any "debt" the government will hold against them. They can be "free" after. if enlisting in the military was truly mandatory, then yes of course BTS should serve and receive no exemption. BUT there are exemptions made. And when it's made to people that have contributed less....it is frustrating that we even need to convince anyone. Olympians and athletes, people have argued that their serving would ruin their careers as the serving years are their prime time. Which I agree, but these are also BTS's prime time years. If this was the argument, then wouldn't deferring their serving age to 30 (like BTS) solve that issue? And then there are the e-gamers. I myself am a gamer, so i am familiar with that world. Their average ages are quite young. At 25 you're already considered old. So why are they getting exempted? Truthfully, i think e-gamers would be better recruits in the military. With their skill sets, they can probably do really well operating drones and un-manned crafts and machinery. They have plenty of time to serve after their "prime time". Regarding "prime time", i'm going to use JK as an example, he's not my bias, but i want to be as objective as possible. JK has had a very successful run as a soloist. In the short one month time of him releasing his solo album, he was able to achieve so much that most idols won't be able to in their lifetime. not to mention being able to work with big names like Usher, JT, Ed sheeren, Shawn Mendes, Andrew Watts, etc etc. He's gained so much global popularity with the new wave of the global general audience that hasn't paid attention to k-pop before. His impact is much more vast then these other Olympians, athletes', e-gamers. and yet, he has to give up that trajectory to go serve. In the short run, JK will suffer, and S.Korea can still benefit from the residual interest in kpop and k-culture. But when BTS returns and no longer "owe" anything to S.Korea, who knows what they have up their sleeves? Maybe they will leave behind k-pop and truly tap into the general categories. There is HYBE America now. There's always that possibility that BTS can leave korea and extend their careers overseas. Who will cry then? I'm purely thinking from a strategic/business perspective. BTS being as honorable as they are and wanting to promote integrity, will always have to drag korea along on their coattails. but my previous point would be the right play i believe. BTS has won the hearts of millions. When they come back, their come back world tour will break records that will be very hard to break again for generations to come. True Armys just need to trust in BTS, trust that they know what they're doing and that they already have plans in place, believe that Army will stick around for their return, and do what we can now to keep supporting them in silence. Let the haters talk their shit, let them rant about how great their favs are. We just keep quiet and wait for the boys to come back. And when they do, we just blow everyone else out of the water, to the point that there is no doubt in anyone's minds who is the biggest artists in the world. That is what we should do. Start saving up, concert tickets will be expensive. 💪
Sweetheart...I agree with you in every alphabet.😊 When you are 70 years old up you feel live day by day , now I need to live healthy and counting the days until June 2025 ... to see my 7 kiddos again....🤫🤗🫠😂🫰💜
Μy son is a e-gamer and extremely talented with computers technology etc( even hacking if he wanted too haha 😂) but when he will be done with his studies ( game development and terms I don't understand honestly 😂 HE will serve in the Greek military as well, it's mandatory in Greece 🇬🇷 as it is in S.K ...I agree with everything you so wisely told in your comment. BORAHAE ♥︎
I still catch myself crying and tearing up whenever I see their older vidoes, or just hear their voices. I'm terrified that for this one time, I can't tell the future to make sure they come back safe and alive...but this had to happen. As much as we love them, we have to remember that these men are still proud South Korean citizens and do right by their country. We all want the power to make certain they'll come back safe and sound, but we have to let them go for now. It's also a test for ARMY. If we can be decent people when our role models are with us, then it's up to us to see if we can still be those same decent souls when they're gone. We can still love ourselves and use BTS as a means to help others love themselves too. I love and miss them so much, but I'm so proud of the men they've grown into.
Here is a list of their discharge dates Jin- June 12, 2024 J-Hope- October 17, 2024 RM and V- June 10, 2025 Jimin and Jungkook- June 11, 2025 Suga- June 21st, 2025
@@emman.8655Yes, Suga’s Alternative Service is 21 months. Therefore, his discharge date is set for June 21, 2025. But if he has unused Leave days, he can choose to use those at the end of his service, potentially getting out earlier.
This was extremely difficult, I love these guys so much and when the last 4 were driven into the enlistment camp I felt such unbearable pain. It's amazing how you can have great love for those you've never met. I'm not from S.K., therefore, even if I want to, I won't comment on their laws. I just pray that the Lord keeps them safe from all hurt, harm and danger and allow them to return with no physical or emotional wounds!🙏🏼 Sean, thank you for everything and reporting on our beautiful sweet angels❣️
I feel you, but i'm quite relieve knowing Jin is there, coz i'm sure he will look after JK and Jimin. Tae seems mentally strong and ready. RM, always keep things together, he will be okay. What I most worried about is the controvertial "shower" thing. Oh God! they've better not mess with our BTS.
I agree , if anyone gonna mess with any BTS members there will be a hell to pay when they get out from Army fans ! I hope they are smart enough to leave them alone 😊
Im so heartbroken 💔 I miss them already ❤And i find it soooo unfair they didn't ger exemption, what stupidity from S.K government. OMG 2 whole years of wailing 😩 Love your content Sean 🎉 Keep up the great work ❤🎉 ( sadly for me when BTS get discharged and done with their military service my Son will enlist 😢Military service is mandatory in Greece 🇬🇷 as well ..
I'm so proud of how both BTS and ARMY are handling this. That said, BTS should have NEVER had to serve. I feel like I'm not speaking out of the box by saying BTS has done more (as a whole) in forms of money, power and respect than any other person born in the country but who am I? Just a silly American.
You are not an American fool! (I'm from Uruguay) All of us foreigners were the ones who bought their records, merch and who helped BTS to be on top. and therefore we fill the coffers of Korea and that company (hibe) with money!!! I mean... we did have an opinion on all this!! because the government used BTS over and over again for its international impact!
V decided to get trained in anti terrorism... does anyone think its so he has the skills to fend off the stalkers? Sasaeng fans be warned he will be a weapon when he is fully trained up xD
@@eileencritchley4630cuando dijo de miedos? Vi el último live y dijo que quería cumplir sus propias metas y que tenía un objetivo, nunca habló de miedos. Taehyung se preparó por varios años para enlistarse en esa unidad y lo logró, leí en la página del ministerio de defensa de ese país que los últimos 60 años solo 30 artistas han logrado entrar , creo que cumplió uno de sus objetivos, también dijo que recuperaría peso y mostraría su nueva versión en 2025.
A lot people in comments say "i am proud". I am not. I am sorry for bts and other korean men who have to go through this. Every korean nan i met only curse at this and think it is outdated practice that steals 2 years of their lives. So i am going to pray for our Bangtan boys to be really bulletproof and comevack uninjured🙏
well said!! I think exactly the same! No! I'm not proud that they go to the army!!! They deserved to continue with their music happily, which is what they love and WANT to do!! I am proud of them for how they are as human beings and all their art, but not because they are going to risk their physical and mental health to a military service that they should not do!! and that their politicians do not recognize them for anything they have done even though they have used them in many things!!!! I'm with you!!
I’ve had the same experience in talking to Korean men. I couldn’t find one that genuinely wanted to go and they told me their friends and relatives felt the same. It’s in the country’s best interest to make military service the only good choice. Otherwise it’s longer in jail than the MS would be or dip out of the country, then you are looked down upon for dodging service. I wish they had a voluntary military like my country, but many of these smaller countries have conscription unfortunately. It’d be nice not to need it, but while they only have a ceasefire with the North that could end at any time and not a peace treaty, this will have to be a thing. I’m proud of them but I recognize that they are only doing this because they have to. We all need to pray for their safe return to civilian life and things don’t get hot with NK. 🙏🏻🕊️
I’m still so pissed off about this. They do so much positive things for Korea and the world. I’m annoyed by fans who say it was their choice. They have no choice. Others who don’t impact at all get exemptions.
Same, I'm still very angry. And I agree that it wasn't their choice. Nobody wants to stop or delay his career. Besides, the way Jin spoke about the military service in his last Live before the enlistment, proves that he didn't like it.
I am pissed off too, they did so much for Korea economically and have elevated the image of Korea; but they still have to enlist while some classical musicians are exempted. It seems Korea government is discriminating their K-p[op industry, so ironic; I guess classical music is more elegant and high-class to them.
South Korea has sent its national treasure to the military. There is nothing that can be done about it now. All seven of them are in. All we can hope is that they are protected from friendly fire. (since there is no war) It is going to be like a hard withdrawal because we are so used to having them around and anticipating when the next tour, event or live is going to happen. We know they provided content, but we know that it is not the same.
I was given two kittens as a Christmas gift which i fondly named SUGA and HOPE. So yeah that's how I'll pass my time is taking care of this two bangtan furballs.
BTS deserved so much better than the way the govt treated them. They gave exemption for Gamers who won in the Olympics. Are you kidding me!. Then they wanted to use Jin and Hobi for their screw up on the boy scout jambordie, are you kidding me!!!!. I know BTS said they would go, but they should have been exempted. They have given so much for S. Korea. They have broken through the western market, European market, and everywhere in the world. Tourism is up, ask yourself why? They were given the Culturial Merit Awared and Diplomatic passports, they asked RM to be a Public Relations Ambassador for the Miinstry of National Defense. They have spoken at the UN, White House, what more should they have done, to be exempted. Even on Hiatus due to this military enlistment, they have brought in a lot of money. I really miss them, and this should not have occurred. Suga comes out in June because of the type of services he went in on.
Totally agree and elected officials fail to understand the voting power of Army. If Politicians have crossed the line on fact based decisions and community good and kindness the purple vote will remove the bad players.
I am like you!! and with enormous anger that cannot go away!! I don't understand why this happens!! Seeing them sad and worried because they don't know what's going to happen! They can get injured and ruin their lives and careers!! MANY say they experienced hell there! Many very famous idols had a very bad time, and all the testimonies you see from Koreans on UA-cam talk about the worst things about their lives in the army! They did SO MUCH for their country! everything you wrote but they did advertising for tourism for 7 years!! and the busan concert! all FREE and only for the government! That IS SERVING THE COUNTRY! I am also outraged!!! greetings 🇺🇾
On their return, they will need the time to readjust after military life and fans must be patient, understanding and fully support their plans with whatever happens next
Exactly! It doesn't matter whether someone is conscripted or volunteers for military service they need time to decompress after returning to civilian life.
The govt failed. The amount of $$$ and respect for South Korea BTS generated. Unforgivable. Thank you for your service and Army will keep the lights on until all brothers return. Thank you for your post you are always so honest and elegant in your presentations. Blessings forward
i agree, and i wouldn't be surprised if it's bad karma since bts gets people interested in korean language and kdrama, major importance for korean economy. think about the message, that if korea itself doesn't care enough about their kpop idols and fair treatment, why should the rest of the world care about kpop?
@@sc33h3o3 Even before our last four enlisted, views and attendance for the MAMA and MMA shows were WAY down... because BTS wasn't there. Meanwhile, 5 days into their enlistment, BTS's old songs are spiking #1s on I-tunes around the world. First Spring Day, then Outro: Tear, No More Dream, and Attack On Bangtan. ARMY's gone back to the beginning to support 'Bangtan Sonyeondan'- and they're calling themselves 'Bell' for a joke. There's been a mock streaming battle this weekend, team 2Kool4Skool vs Team O, RU L8 2? K-pop interest was already on a decline, and that's probably going to continue. But some critics were predicting that BTS's popularity will also decline- even after their return- so ARMY's in a "Oh yeah? We'll show YOU who's popular and who's not!" kind of mood. As one commenter put it very well: "BTS are enlisted, but ARMY isn't. It's time to show them that we got their backs while they're gone."
Although I was furious when BTS didn’t get the exemption I think all of them enlisting is a better smarter option. They planned this out so well. All of them had an opportunity to debut their solo projects which became successful and more importantly they will fulfill their military service as South Korean men. Unlike those nepo children of the rich and powerful the BTS members are doing Korea proud. It also eliminates any hate and criticism in this area. Jin and J Hope have been doing so well in the military, although we don’t have a whole lot of news about Suga I am sure he is also doing well in his assignments. I am sure RM, Jimin, V and Jungkook will come through positively just like their older brothers. Even though they leave behind what they love to do most but it’s only temporary. Meanwhile, armies around the world are so fantastic in their show of support of BTS that their debut and older songs are charting! Thank you army! Please don’t be sad because we have so much to look forward to in the near future. Borahae 💜
@@sc33h3o3 As much as we would love to have them come back sooner I think that shortening their time would also invite unwarranted hate and criticisms. Out of jealousy there are a lot of people who love to hate BTS. As we continue to support them in their military endeavors just as we did with their music careers I’m sure they will find comfort in knowing we are always there for them. Coming back to us safely and healthy is utmost important. 💜
@@sharonnelson3713 I think as long as they went they for the most part would have the respect of people, eg in later polls it was over 60% that thought they should be exempted, apparently it was mainly younger men who opposed. After they did the Busan concert FOR FREE which did garner Busan being chosen to host, and then served, if they had served less than 18 months I personally don't think it would have mattered except to a very small minority. Just the fact that the 5 members have to endure two winters pisses me off, and three are in the area that is extra cold, I saw photos of soldiers being hazed marching shirtless in the winter. Even one day less of suffering would be better.
I wanted them to get the exemption because they really deserve it more than those who get the exemption for winning a gold medal, BUT I feel if they had gotten the exemption the government would've held it over their heads to do this, do that, etc. Now they'll serve their time and be free to do what the want to do without owing the government anything.
That's a good point. The government was already trying to use them- Busan, for example. (Which failed, incidentally; Saudi Arabia will be hosting the EXPO in 2030.) I can easily see some kind of 'We exempted you, now you have to comply with all our requests' emerging out of that. Now if it had been a matter of actually changing the guidelines so that BTS *and other groups* could earn exemption, that would be a bit different. But it's all moot now; and now the government is starting to talk about *extending* the enlistment time again, so that their soldiers serve *more* time. Because they still can't seem to come up with a way to resolve the fact that their population is declining. It's not long now until they'll need 101% of males to be enlisted to fill the required-active quota...and that's not a thing that can happen.
Having all 7 in, hit me harder than I thought it would, however I am so excited to see Jin's projects, and the shenanigans he gets up to holding down the fort until 2SEOK is reunited when Hobi gets out in October. I think Yoongi is discharged 10 days after Jimin, and Jungkook. There are lots of countdowns. ARMY is On It! I think it's touching how we are counting the days, streaming their music, catching up on content, reliving our favorite memories, and finding ways to show them that we never, and will never forget them. Are you ARMY, Sean? 😏 I miss them so much! I especially miss seeing their Live streams. APO!BANGPO!💜 So, I'm not the only one who thought Tae could use his Military training to supplement his acting resumé, like his horse riding skills😊
Instead of soothing our hearts, ARMY needs to evolve during this time to become true supporters of BTS, that means not only giving them the space to process and grow in their journey but also promoting their welfare. The industry and fans need to support and respect artists so that they are emotionally healthy as well. It is so sad that BTS were pushed to the brink of burnout.
that was the COMPANY not the fans. The company has exploited them since they were trained, even giving them little food, leaving them without sleep for days and driving them to exhaustion. I really wanted them to not renew with that company.
@@inessacco4843 IMO, I don't think you have an accurate view of HYBE. There's a reason they didn't have a lot of food in the beginning, but they didn't starve. BTS was given way more leeway in how much to practice than other artists have been given at other companies. Certainly, they were expected to train in many areas and work hard, but if they hadn't wanted it, they would have quit and they wouldn't continue signing with HYBE. You can witness time and again that BTS have very high standards for themselves and push themselves further than they perhaps should, whether in training or during performances. If HYBE were a terrible company, they wouldn't provide medical attention when needed, etc. Again, IMO, I don't think HYBE has exploited BTS to an extent where they should be villainized. BTS members are not dumb and I wish fans would put more trust in the members' decisions.
IMHO I think that they might say it did them good. It gave them another purpose. They were burned out. As much as I despised the thought of them going. Especially after all they’ve done for their country I felt so let down. After thinking about it this maybe will give them a real life perspective instead of a crazy icon one they’ve been living. They’re with other guys that are close to their ages. It’s kind of a safer place that walking down a street and being mobbed. Idk what will happen. I just have faith that they’ll be safe and come back to us safely.
I think it’s a Sad,Sad day in South Korea. The government has failed these boys. When they come back in 2025 they’ll make millions and millions more for Big Hit and the government. They should be Ashamed. And don’t nobody text back and say it’s their duty. People with less influence was exempted
exact! That's what makes me the most angry! the government has used them SO blatantly! and they wanted to continue using them for presentations even though they were in the army!! as if they were puppets that they use whenever they want! The worst thing is that that HIBE company agreed to let BTS be used by politicians WITHOUT ANY RETURN!!! If I were them I would have left the country!!! They are mega stars! In the US, for example, they could have continued their mega-successful careers! and not give a peso or anything else to a hypocritical and corrupt country that does not value them at all!!!
Jin completed his military service and returned in June this year just in time to be one of the torch bearers for the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris. Summer is not over for Jin as a Gucci brand ambassador and participated in the Gucci Spring/Summer 2025 Milan Fashion Show in Italy…he’s their fashion rock star!
Mad respect for Taehyung for even qualifying for SDT! I hope he never gets to use his new skills in actual combat. I do agree that any skills he acquires will serve him well in future acting projects. Hey, they might even do a concert stint where V rapels down and breaks through a window while Jimin comes in with crazy flying kicks and JK dodges bullets doing fancy dance moves! How about that?
When the last four announced their enlistment, I had to admit I wasn't prepared. I just hope they stay safe and healthy and nothing happens to any of the members. I hate Jin had to go through what he went through when he first enlisted, but I hope the military uses that incident as an example and they hopefully have found ways to keep BTS and other service members safe. As for now, I'll continue to stream their music, watch their content, and patiently wait for their return. Love you, BTS! love you, ARMY 💜💜💜💜💜
Feel so lost without them 💜😭I know you tried hard to exempt them by signing and making a petition 💜thank you so much for all that effort 💜The only fear is that hope they don’t get injured and will be in good health 💜they are the kings and they will continue to rule once the come out 💜they will excel in every field of work they do 💜army will love them always forever
I lost all respect for south korea a while ago. all these years of hallyu are good f nothing now. this pride.....forget it, super conservative states say that and the us, of course. it's just a shame, stealing their best years. on the other hand I wished to hear they part ways with hybe. I am not happy they are doing that or were forced to do it. they will need time to re-adjust in their normal world. so don't expect your world tour in 2025
We still have all their music widely available on all platforms and we still can listen. If I'm not wrong, they will still receive some income if we listen
Every KPop Idol goes. Every Fandom endures it. BTS Fans will get through this. Time flies. And before you know it they will be back. Hang in there Army. You'll get through this.
💜This is so hard to accept, but if we don’t we will suffer even more. Pray for PEACE, this is such an unstable time on the planet. I feel so sad for them to be forced into the military and away from what they do best. They will be different when they return and so will we. Let’s all evolve and grow into the best versions of ourselves. So grateful we have each other. Thank you Sean for keeping us informed. Happy Holidays everyone! L💜VE🌟✨✨✨
You do know that BTS never asked not to go and never asked for the extension either. That extension was due to the Kpop Agencies not BTS and Not HYBE/BigHit. Those Kpop agencies didn't even invite BTS or their company to the discussions. However those disgusting Kpop companies used BTS as the example without their premission why KPOP artist should be exempt. Oh dear then what happened was the Government did change the law extending the age to 30year rather than 28 but the kpop artist needed to hold the Cultural Merit Award. Yeah right so the only Kpop artist's that hold that Cultural Merit Award are all 7 members of BTS who didn't even ask for the extension. So the new law called nicknamed The BTS Law. The Kpop Agencies were mad about it and petitioned the Government to change the law back citing it was too hard and unrealistic. This is because they know that no other Kpop artist is ever going to be award the Cultural Merit Award. Now no one can point fingers at BTS and say they 'Got out of military service'.
I feel that BTS is to be congratulated most for what they did NOT do in regards to mandatory MS. First, they did not ask for the law to be changed to exempt KPOP artists, as you pointed out. They decided on their own that they would serve. Second, they do not seem to have employed brokers to get them alternative service as some KPOP idols have done. (Two who were convicted this spring for trying to evade MS by claiming false medical conditions both used brokers.) Third, BTS/Hybe has not used their influence to get the members easy posts. Jin, Jimin and Jungkook are based on the frontline, J Hope is in the nothern part of Korea, during a time when the possibility of war involving the two Koreas has increased dramatically.
Hello dear Sean! Hi 🇺🇾 I was waiting for your video of this... even though there is nothing more to do or comment... I have great appreciation for you for all the information and your position on the exemption (which they deserved more than anyone else) bts. I'm very angry with the situation, and I have a feeling of worry (especially for Jimin) and sadness that I really find difficult for him to leave! What annoys me the most besides those corrupt politicians who recently exempted video game players but not BTS!! I also get angry at the ARMYS who did NOTHING for them! for protesting against this injustice😒
The only good thing to come out of this debacle is, hang on, there isn’t one I can think off. We know that even if the guys hate the situation that they are in now, they will do the very best that they can. We have been and always will be, proud, of every single member of BTS. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Hey Sean, still here in Houston, still here watching your show through your transition back to the states. Glad to see you are still ARMY by our side. We are all hurting so please post about the guys every once in a while, ok? We SO SO SO appreciate it. Love your content, love how you break it all down for us. Happy Holidays...
What I really don’t understand is why is the Korean Army putting so much training and money into the Special Anti-Terrorist Group when these guys are out in 18 months. Seems like a waste of resources. Hoping all the guys return safe and well
Incredible. I have to admit that its pretty admirable that a group of their status are still working within South Korean rules. Regardless of what you think of the requirement, it is impressive. Shows how selfless they are. Couldn't imagine American musicians doing this.
Rm, Jimin, V and Jungkook said that each of them did a lot of content that going to be released during their military service, so that should occupy us and lessen the feeling of loss…like we just got Jungkook’s collaboration with Usher Music Video, Jimin and Jungkook did something like a travel variety show, think RM and V each will have a travel Vlog or something because they did some traveling on their personal time. IU just said she collaborated with V on a song for her comeback…I’m hoping maybe Suga and Jhope collaborated with her, too. There’s hints that Jimin did some dance collaboration. Also hints of new albums from RM, V, Jimin… This doesn’t make the sense of emptiness less, but it helps… for me, since BTS who made Korea lots of money and helped put Korea on global forefront wasn’t exempt, then athletes, classic musicians and other groups shouldn’t be exempt either. Plus, women shouldn’t be exempt, they should do community service or public service-relations work for up to 2 years.
wait!! in March 2025??? we were told he'll be back in June 2025? don't they get 21 months when it's public service? as far as we knew he'll be the last to return, are you sure he'll be back in March???? this means for Festa 2025 they'll all be back!!!!!!
I really miss these young gentlemen, they all have unique characters that I adore and love. I know they face a lot of hardships but they are all so strong and awesome in the way they handle it, I pray that the Lord keep them safe and bless them abundantly 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Sorry, but some of your information does not line up. Hobi won't be discharged until October 2024. Suga will be the last to be discharged. The older ones received no special accommodations to be able to attend the entrance ceremonies of the younger ones. They had to use their vacation days to do so. Their gov failed them. Do you really think they'd give them special privileges? No. Lastly, Jimin and Jungkook decided to enlist together. I highly doubt it was the military's planning that they ended up enlisting together. I don't think they give a $#!+ about their government's so-called plans anymore. The boys are taking their decision-making into their own hands and good on them for doing so.
Like when it was announced that they would be enlisting the day after the Yet To Come Busan Concert. I also wonder about RM cutting his hair military style months ago. I think both were a flex. A very classy flex.
I care as well about BTS I think right now with all this controversy going on about RM, Jung kook, Jimin, V I think it’s better for them to be in the military right now they need to get away from all these saesangs, and the other people who are trying to ruin their careers. It’s not right they will hopefully be safe away from Seoul right now. We will all count down the days, hope for them to be safe and healthy while they are serving. Have a safe return and be free from controversy.💜 Am I right Army?
Well I never thought I would have a visceral response to someone that doesn’t even know I exist going into the SK military but I did. Such a knot in my stomach. I really missed those guys, especially Jungkook who was the king of “lives”. He was so engaging that you felt like you were hanging out with him. The military experience is going to add another dimension to their individual characters. It is really fascinating to think that V is going to train for special ops. Namjoon being fluent in English is probably going to be an interpreter. It seems like Yoongi got a really good deal with social services in the military because of his shoulder. It is rumored that he will work 9-5 with weekends and holidays off. I hope they stay healthy and I’m looking forward to any content that they have prepared for us prior to enlisting knowing that they will all be back soon. I’d also like to say that I really enjoy your content.
RM is already the special Ambassador working with the military to recover fallen Korean's eg identification and returning of their remains and of American and Japanese soldier's remains.
@@eileencritchley4630 It remains to be seen how a person holding the rank of private first class can be reconciled with the position of special Ambassador in a special unit of the ROK Army. I think this is why no one seems to know where he is headed after basic training.
Army go "STREAM" all BTS discography now! BTSArmy already charted "Spring Day, No More Dream, and Attack of Bangtan top of the charts, GO ARMY!!!" 🥳😯🤭😂🤩👏🕺🎶🎤👑🥇🏆💜💞🌎🇺🇸 #BTSxARMYGLOBALDOMINATION
Just like the members all said RM shouldn’t drive for the sake of world peace, I think he should not be in the military for the same reason lol! But jokes aside, what is scary to me is that Namjoon is somewhat prone to having accidents. The weapons and equipment he will be handling are not toys. They are pretty dangerous and very expensive. I’m really nervous for him. I think I will be holding my breath until OT7 returns.
I think its great they joined because it is a right of passage. Thier fathers, uncles, brothers, friends and sons all go so it will be harder if bts doesn't go. They will miss that shared experience with thier families and even thier future sons. Imagine everyone you know goes and has those stories but bts wouldn't have those memories to share with thier future sons if they don't go
I think the Korean government is very stupid to insist BTS having to do military services. BTS is a precious asset of Korea that bringing money into Korea, and bringing prestige to the country, why a country suddenly freezes its precious assets with the risk that they might depreciate two years later?? BTS has to enlist, how about Son Heung Min? So football is more important that the golden egg BTS??
There's so much content to catch up on. I'm back to work, so I'm far behind on the solo stuff. My main concern is for all of them to make it through their service unharmed in any way. Stay safe and stay healthy my beautiful men. Always look forward to your videos Sean. Be well
Your discharge dates for J-Hope and Suga are wrong. J-Hope will be discharged in October 2024 and Suga will also be out in June 2025 because he has to serve 21 months instead of 18 months.
I think we all just have to remind ourselves they they are the ones serving and not able to do the things they want. They have given us so much content over the years that should last us forever. Not to mention all the content that will come out. I am definitely sad but I think ARMY knows how to keep each other entertained and connected.
It's not the fact of "being entertained" that matters to me. They are not just clowns for my amusement! I, like millions, care about YOUR HEALTH, and your physical and emotional well-being. And the Korean military service is horrible and exposes them to extreme situations that harm them! For example, many say they have had bad knees, others have even wanted to commit suicide, and many idols went through all kinds of horrendous things there!
He's already a ambassador for the military in regards to the indentification and recovery of Korean military killed in the conflicts along with USA and Japanenese soldiers and returning their remains to their families.
This doesn't make sense at all. Sending the ones who represents the national prestige to enlistment?!!!. I'm so angry and I feel so sad and empty without them, is a weird feeling. But Army will be here wating for them. We love them so much, they are more than just a group of music to us. SK government should be ashamed for this.
Yes, BTS & fans will realize how short the service is in hindsight 5, 10, 25 years from now. What I've been saying for a few years now is, let's remember, that the BTS band concept is fictional military. So by going to actual conscription, BTS might possibly become the only music act/band in global history that will be both fictional & non-fictional military. They will become part of 2 armies, not just 1 as before, of which that itself is also both fictional & non-fictional army. And now they will actually be able to handle real weapons, military-grade nonetheless, & also use real bulletproof armor & bombs/grenades. All of these military nomenclature & wordings that have been used for BTS & ARMY for 10 years are now actually becoming real stuff. That even includes "muster". I realize that the exemption thing had been dangled like a carrot in front of their faces, but I think going to military duties was the best real path for them. They had already said years ago that they will serve. Imagine a music band that revolves around military themes yet not actually going to real military. In a nation where there is conscription, it could actually be embarrassing to be an entertainment act that is pretend military but then not going to real military. Had BTS got exempted, that could possibly get them mocked & belittled by haters & critics for the rest of their lives, even if others have gotten previously exempted over the years, because BTS is a military concept. We have already surmised that BTS was just one of those things that was destined to be, as many fans have said, even J-Hope said something to that effect. So when Bang PD invented this band to have a military concept, I think that also additionally sealed their destiny & fate to also become real military. That could be a reason why they did not get exempted, it was not part of their destiny. BTS have already gone through many trials & tribulations, obstacles & rites of passage. Going to military should just be another rite of passage. And the most important thing is that them going to military should not be considered a bump in the road in their careers. It should actually be considered honorable, esteemed, proud & noble to go. Because let's face it folks, in the grander scheme of things, it is not all fun, games & music. That SK military is there for a reason. Without it, South Korea probably would not have existed & thus subsequently, no KPop industry & no BTS in existence. If you want to blame anybody for that, then blame Karl Marx, Lenin & Stalin. Whatever the case, after their service is over, BTS will finally come full circle back to their military concept & military band name by actually becoming real soldiers. Maybe one of them might even train a bit in reconnaissance (scout), who knows. BTS have already gone beyond music by having hundreds of charities globally in their name/proxy, having saved peoples lives through the messages in their songs, & now they can actually help defend their nation for real. All of that makes BTS & ARMY richer in substance & will prove a positive effect on their legacy for the history books. They will all be back before we know it, just as I said in my first sentence above. Big Time Soldiers 2025. 12/17/23
I feel like such a bad person for the way i feel. S Korea telling BTS they didn't have a choice is what bothers me. It's a slap in their face after everything theyve done for S Korea. I'm 54 yrs old and didnt know there was such a difference in S and N Korea. Schools didn't teach that in the U.S.. I didn't even know Samsung was from SK. You could hear the word Korea in the U.S. and you thought of a bad place and war cuz of what we were taught in school. Schools are teaching the difference now cuz of BTS (fact). The BTS members have such high morals they wouldve chosen to enlist anyway, but not given them the option is a backslap right across their face. I also hope the govn see and feel the effects hard🫢🫢. (Im sorry it hurts me when i know it hurt them) The Korean news even said it was around 60% 40% being in BTSs favor to exempt, but the younger generation that votes was high in that 40%...ME:also the ages of ppl that don't like BTS and like other kpop idols (Imagine how bad the economy would hurt if BTS told ARMY not to put another $1 into S Korea until they got out. That govn would see real fast.. But BTS didnt do that. It's not their character) No, its not my country and no, its not any of my business but i can still fill this way! It hurt my feelings when i know it hurt theirs . I just needed to vent ARMY
I'M WITH YOU! I FEEL THE SAME!! 😡💔 Anger and sadness!!! I'm from Uruguay. But I'll correct you something: they were waiting to see if they would be exempted and would have taken it! On April 2023 in LA, at a press conference, the Hibe spokesperson said he hoped the government would decide once and for all whether to exempt them or not so that they could plan their future. I mean: if they had taken the opportunity to exempt themselves! But the government was a hypocrite and did not decide anything and Jin's date arrived 💔 It hurts me because the army is horrible!! If you look at interviews of those who were there, they say that they lived through hell! horrible tests like the gas chamber and others! 💔 they didn't deserve that! and they may be left with physical and/or psychological consequences of that!
@@inessacco4843 totally agree with you. I believe Big Hit was given an impression by the hypocrites that BTS might be getting an exemption, but then they went back and forth playing with politics; so BTS was fed up with all these and Jin decided to go ahead with his enlistment cuz deadline was approaching.
Not doing well with this. V.. afraid of heights... repelling down from tall building?... dropping out of helicopters? 😬 Everywhere they've been, we see them at departure airport, then at arrival airport SAFE. When they were injured or sick, we got updates (even lives). This the first time we can't see them, don't know what's happening with them, or if they are safe and well. 💜💪🏻💜
Taehyung ya superó su miedo a las alturas, porque crees que pasó las pruebas? tiene 28 años y se preparó para ingresar ahí , el ejército de corea no regalan nada a nadie, el que ingresa a esa unidad es porque se lo ganó.
Fortunately what's true is that apparently NK does that stuff to flex all the time but they know if they'd ever actually do anything they'd get obliterated
@ 4.40 politicians would've gotten backlash but nowhere near the backlash Bangtan would've gotten! I'm 100% certain Bangtan would've enlisted regardless of what law exempted them from doing it. They're way too smart to choose exemption and know Koorea way too well
@@sc33h3o3 they would never accept anything Koreans could use later to call em out for though? SK is extremely touchy abt this and anyone who even smells like they could be privileged isn't forgiven, ever. It's different for chaebols and their boys cause they're not public figures but performers? way too risky
Wrong: they were waiting to see if they would be exempted and would have taken it! On April 2023 in LA, at a press conference, the Hibe spokesperson said he hoped the government would decide once and for all whether to exempt them or not so that they could plan their future. I mean: if they had taken the opportunity to exempt themselves! But the government was a hypocrite and did not decide anything and Jin's date arrived 💔 It hurts me because the army is horrible!! If you look at interviews of those who were there, they say that they lived through hell! horrible tests like the gas chamber and others! 💔 they didn't deserve that! and they may be left with physical and/or psychological consequences of that!
@@inessacco4843 you said it yourself.. it was Hybe ceo, not Bangtan. Jiin himself said he was gonna enlist in 2020.. What Hybe who clearly depends on Bangtan for anything wants =/= what Bangtan wants. Are you a baby ARMY? please check their lyrics, there's a great bog by an ARMY called doolsetbangtan. They were gonna serve no matter what their govt nor Hybe asked for. It was the only way to be free
@@fi0rella yes of course! It seems to me that you are the one who is uninformed! Did you not see what the BTS spokesperson said in the PRESS RELEASE IN 2023???? look it up and read it! He said: We hope that the government decides as quickly as possible on whether or not they are going to grant the exemption to BTS because it is difficult for artists to organize their future. I mean: they were WAITING to see what they would solve
My exact thoughts about Taehyung's choice of placement. When I heard where he's going and when he said in their last weverse live that we shouldn't worry about him because he has a plan, I immediately thought that he decided if he already needs to go and play soldier for a while he might as well get full training for future works. But I think actually a lot of planning went into their enlistment just not many people look into it that deeply. Suga is rightfully where he is because of his shoulder surgery, I don't question that at all. But. He's the main producer in their group. Namjoon can work during these months in a notebook if nothing else because he can write lyrics but Yoongi needs his music equipment to be productive and this way they can get a huge head start for when they all come back because after his workday ends he has full access to his home studio. He could produce a full album for them until 2025 so they can get back on track very quickly. Even if his social service placement wasn't guaranteed, I feel that some handshakes would have happened in the background to help a tiny bit with the situation and I also feel that not even the officials would have had any problem with it knowing the circumstances. As I said, his shoulder injury more than warrants his placement but that's the best thing that could have happened. I think Jin and Hobi didn't have any special plans just went with the "we'll see how it goes" option but they are both natural leaders. Especially Jhope is used to direct a group of people to move with perfection so I understand how they ended up as instructors. And I'm guessing it was the military base's idea of help as well because this move made sure that they are always above the others in rank (except the actual officers who work there of course but they are somewhat colleagues now) so they are protected as much as they can be. Namjoon speaks English well, he fulfilled all kinds of diplomatic roles in the past, well mannered, intelligent and eloquent. Hell, he was shaking hands with state presidents...I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up in that special unit that is kinda like a link between the Korean and US army? I don't know what the unit is called but I know it's a coveted position with huge number of people applying but very little are actually accepted. And the maknae line... I already said why I think Taehyung chose what he did. Jimin and Jungkook going together is the perfect choice for both of them. Me and my friend were joking about how Jimin is there to keep Jungkook in check otherwise he would be jumping out of airplanes and swimming with crocodiles... 😂 On the other hand Jungkook can have his own set of problems, he's young, there will definitely be men there who are older than him and might not be that fond of idol stars or rich kids in general. I don't think it would turn physical but sometimes words can be even more hurtful. But with the two of them together they can keep each others up without problem. And Jimin needs somebody with him just as much. I think he's prone to depression, he himself said that if he starts having negative thoughts it's hard for him to find his way out of that loop. Depression and enlistment is never a good combination. So with Jungkook there they can have each others backs. That is of course only my take on things but it seems logical. I just wish for them to come back quickly and healthy.
Looking at the length of your comment, you seem very knowledgeable about BTS boys. Honestly I didn’t read much of it, but being a Jimin fan, I scrolled down until JM started appearing. Question to you is, who diagnosed Jimin with DEPRESSION? “Prone to depression”? Are you a psychiatrist? yes JM has said he’s very private, he doesn’t like to be alone but he doesn’t like sharing his own problems with others, he’s clearly a workaholic and perfectionist. Neither Jimin nor anyone around him has said anything about JM having any psychological disorder so please quit throwing around words like depression so casually. Don’t misunderstand his kind nature as weakness. The reason why Jimin and JK enlisted together is still unknown except for two of them, I hope they’ll share with us someday, until then let’s not pretend to be experts.
@@td7433 First: you openly admit that you didn't even read my comment but you still felt the need to butt in. How thoughtful of you. Second: I'm not a psychiatrist but I'm a nurse of 32 years and my job is to notice the signs even if the patient doesn't say anything. Third: it's not even a guesswork with Jimin. You don't seem to know him as well as you think you do because apparently you are not aware that he himself said this. I was literally quoting him when I said when he starts thinking about negative things he can't get out of that loop. These were his exact words. And that is a form of depression, when your negative thoughts are ruling your life to the point where you can't get rid of them. It has nothing to do with his caring and private nature or what ever you brought up. Lastly: I didn't say they are together because of that. I only said that it's good for him that they are together. Jimin is a perfectionist as you said and military is freakin hard, nobody expects from the new recruits to be perfect on the first try but they do yell at you to do better as it is common in the army. And with a perfectionist as Jimin is, with him chewing himself up at every mistake he makes, I imagine that won't go down well. So yes, I'm glad that the two of them went together.
@@viktoriatoth5809 you’ve been a nurse for 32 years? that’s a long time but still doesn’t change the fact that you’re just a nurse, not a doctor. Depression is not a nursing diagnosis. You’re not qualified to diagnose JM with depression for something he has said 5 years ago. I didn’t read your full comment because I only care about Jimin. You didn’t mention him until towards the end. Your comment started with Taeyang and then started with Makhne line and started with Taeyang again. I’ve followed JM since day 1, I don’t claim to know everything about him. FYI, Depression, most commonly interferes with your daily life (work, study, sleep you name it), it decreases your ability to function normally. when was the last time you saw JM slacking off?? I’ll wait for your answer. I’m a critical care nurse myself, not as old as you but I know my limits. I deal with lots of mental health patients who gets admitted with medical issues. I don’t even dare to say the word unless it’s clearly listed in their past medical history. Military is “freaking hard”? I don’t think any of the members were concerned about military being hard. They were sad about putting their career on hold for almost 2 years. I’m a huge JM fan and i love him with all my heart, I’m sad because I won’t see him for a long time. But trust me, I’m not even bit worried about him not being able to do basic military stuff. “Chewing himself for every mistake he makes”? What mistake are you talking about? Let me remind you, Before BTS, Jimin has spend 8 years of his life training various martial arts which includes Kendo, Taekwondo, he has black belt in both. He exercises everyday and he loves running, he’s a trained contemporary dancer. JM has been facing challenges head-on since he was a teenager. What else is required? Commitment to the mission? Organization skill? Team work? I can confidently say that JM and JK are among the best in their group. Leave JM alone if you don’t know much about him.
@@td7433 Oh, a solo stan. You can't even write the other members' names correctly so I'm done answering to you. Completely ignoring the part about Jimin himself saying these things just so you can push your own warped agenda says everything. Jimin is perfect as he is. Nobody denies that. And that's it.
To be honest, nobody want to enlist. Even normal Korean guy don’t want it, can u imagine ppl with such popularity. But they have to because is mandatory. They know very clearly & always say that they will go. They never want exemption. If they get exempted, they will sure get backlash. It’s good that they choose to shorten the period that we need wait for all to complete their services, while others group need wait for years. After this, nobody can use this issue to shit on them anymore.
You're not omniscient to be able to say they never wanted exemption, there were talks and meetings discussing revising exemption criteria and BTS were waiting
What gets me is that the BTS Guys contributed so much to their country and their country couldn't save them from the Military. And I think it's a bit messed up.😢❤ . It seems that the government didn't even try to keep BTS out of the Military.
That hypocritical government wanted BTS to go to the army to promote the army!!! even though it was known that they deserved exemption more than any other Korean!
Yes, but the Jack in the Box physical album did not get released till August 18, 2023, more than one year after the original digital studio album was released (July 15, 2022). It would be easy to miss, unless you’re ARMY. It seemed more like an afterthought (to release the physical album), since the other members were releasing their solos with physical albums, JHope decided he wanted to do the same. It didn’t do as well in sales, though. I think it would have if he released a physical album in 2022.
I am appauled to see how long it took the South Korean authorities to make up their minds about BTS' military enlistment!, It's obvious that no matter how much you do for your country, as in BTS'case, it really doesn't matter!
People need to STOP talking about the MONEY they are bringing into Korea. Cultural impact data is where the true value of BTS to Korea is where the real argument you can win about. Although it is all academic now.
The reason their almost $5 billion annual contribution is brought up because it undeniably shows their influence especially in terms of tourism, people who wouldn't have taken an interest in Korean foods or products and probably wouldn't otherwise travel to Korea
@@sc33h3o3 Many counter-argue that there are other economic contributors who are not exempted or given special considerations. It is not annual revenue, or even profit, but economic impact. But even talking IMPACT (not just revenue or profit from sales but resulting employments and spin off businesses such as restaurants, transports, accomodations, etc) the argument is that they are not the biggest and nothing special. Exemptions are most notably discussed based on the ability of citizen to increase the profile of South Korea internationally. That is what Olympic medals is about. THAT is what they HAVE DONE. This is a more CONCRETE achievement EQUIVALENT to Olympic gold medalists and classical musicians achievements whatever they are which is the weirdest one I have ever come across but whatever. The $5 billion annual tourism and other things is undeniable, but why they should be special in that regards is debatable. Their value as A CULTURAL ASSET is a more CONCRETE argument as it put them on the same like as OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALISTS (I honestly don't know how to think about those classical musicians I think that is just an elitist loop hole for the rich and powerful not to have their sons serve. An argument that pit them against the likes of Samsung, and other corporations, is not only unfair (HYBE is a corp but BTS is not), but not as apparent in highlighting their real UNIQUE contribution.
I felt like they were all excited and looking forward to enlisting, but I did sense some apprehension from RM. I know he will do well and they all will. They always said they planned to enlist, never expecting exemption. I’m so looking forward to Jin’s and subsequently Hobi’s return.
I never had the sense of their excitement about enlisting, quite the opposite. However, that aside, they were entitled to, and should have been offered an exemption. In true SK style, they were abused by a gang of old, hard nosed, out of touch, old doddering men, called govt. ministers, the leader of whom, the President, was himself exempt from military service.
Some apprehension on RM's part could also be because he has to think of the group as a whole and the well-being of each member and worry about what they are experiencing in the military and how that will affect them. He also has to be forward-thinking to 2025 and what that might look like, despite maybe having his own personal concerns about joining the military and doing it without the other members there.
Taehyung received award from the SK president; For contributions to arts and culture. Namjoon ambassador to the Military of Defense. (correction Minister of Defense).If I remember correctly he will be helping to bring home.??? I said before I haven’t been excited about pop music since the Jackson five. I was enjoying JK/Usher MV collaboration. My UA-cam comment “the whole world is dancing” It meant to be humorous I got a reply “Don’t speak for the world. My reply “wow! are you okay?” Thinking she might be really hurting.I said all that to say BTS is that common denominator. (Love or Hate) I will be guarding my heart and praying for them and army. I love their strength and courage. I think it would have been nice they had a real choice. Thanks for the update Seon .
I'll be praying for everyone's safe return. BTS and non-BTS members. Based on your videos, military service can be difficult for idols. An after the D-P k-drama, it can be difficult in general. I pray that all goes well. Great video and commentary! 😊
suga will be back in june like the rest of them because his service lasts longer he is not regular 18 mounts. they said it on korea now. so please confirm i hope you are right
Tell me that Hybe tough what I am thinking….some Hybe bodyguard that didn’t yet have served their military service entered at the same time of the members did…I don’t know about you but if I was as precious as BTS to my company probably my company would have enough money to pay undercover bodyguards to do the job…🤔
From everything I have heard them say in interviews/Vlives etc., they all wanted to be good citizens of South Korea and do their civic duty. Will watch and stream BTS till they come back. 💜🇧🇸
J Hope does have a physical Album I have both the Vinyl version and The Extended Hope edition CD version. He didn't plan to have a physical version but people complained so he bought one out earlier. He'd only planned the digital version and then later to release the Vinyl version but because people complained he then bought out the later CD Extended Hope Edition CD, which contains live performance's from his Lollapalooza Concert.
I feel fairly confident that RM is going into some kind of intelligence division. Given his high IQ (148) and the fact that he already had a role in the government working with finding and returning military serviceman’s remains (I think I have that right) I do not believe we will ever really know where or how he is serving.
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To be honest, I was so happy when Korea lost for holding 2030 World Expo, they don't deserve it, they couldn't even handle a BTS concert in Busan, and they didn't exempt BTS.
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They did not seek any exemption, they planned to serve all along. On Suga’s talk show they said they originally planned to take the break after the big 2020 world tour that was cancelled by cov!d. Then they planned a couple more dates but got pushed back by Grammy performances and the Busan concert. It was politicians and representatives of OTHER k-pop groups that wanted their Kpop artists to get exemptions and used BTS’s name without them actually asking for it. As ARMY I am proud they are serving and doing so well. On the recent film where his friend Park Seo Joon and PD Na gave him a surprise early birthday celebration, V even talked about how he heard his father’s stories about his service and how he’s always looked forward to it. He applied for and was approved to be in special forces SDT-which he knows will challenge him. I can’t even begin to imagine the backlash they would get from the public and fans of other groups if they got an exemption. Now they are making everyone proud. 💜
Common sense no one would want to interrupt career high point. Culturally including cancel culture element, they could not have said their true feelings. I believe true feelings were implicit in their waiting to see what government final decision would be after years of some, including previous president, suggesting exemption or shortened service for them. Shortened service would have been so much fairer.
No, Suga is doing 21 months because he’s doing social services. He’s coming out in June 2025 a few days after Jimin and Jk.
Yep, he'll be the last one back. 😟💜
I'm not Korean and i'm no expert in Korea, military, or politics. BUT based on my personal opinion, i think bts could have gotten an exemption if they pushed for one or struck a deal with the government. but bts being bts never asked for an exemption and was always willing to serve. They are also extremely intelligent and KNOWS the implications of being exempted. even if they did get the exemption, they probably would have served anyways. One to shut up all haters, and two, to set a good example for everyone else. All eyes were and are on them and they know this. If they had taken the exemption, the world and the haters would never let it go.
Jin even mentioned he wanted to serve, but due to their sudden success and the Busan concert, he had to delay his enlistment and already got so much hate for that. The only reason they would want an exemption, is just to show that they are given the respect that they deserve for all the contributions they have made, but they would still enlist after getting it. I am extremely proud of the boys for taking the matter into their own hands and enlisting on their own terms and not waiting for the government to make up their mind. and to stop using them like puppets. They have contributed enough to the government and by enlisting they are getting rid of any "debt" the government will hold against them. They can be "free" after.
if enlisting in the military was truly mandatory, then yes of course BTS should serve and receive no exemption. BUT there are exemptions made. And when it's made to people that have contributed less....it is frustrating that we even need to convince anyone. Olympians and athletes, people have argued that their serving would ruin their careers as the serving years are their prime time. Which I agree, but these are also BTS's prime time years. If this was the argument, then wouldn't deferring their serving age to 30 (like BTS) solve that issue? And then there are the e-gamers. I myself am a gamer, so i am familiar with that world. Their average ages are quite young. At 25 you're already considered old. So why are they getting exempted? Truthfully, i think e-gamers would be better recruits in the military. With their skill sets, they can probably do really well operating drones and un-manned crafts and machinery. They have plenty of time to serve after their "prime time".
Regarding "prime time", i'm going to use JK as an example, he's not my bias, but i want to be as objective as possible. JK has had a very successful run as a soloist. In the short one month time of him releasing his solo album, he was able to achieve so much that most idols won't be able to in their lifetime. not to mention being able to work with big names like Usher, JT, Ed sheeren, Shawn Mendes, Andrew Watts, etc etc. He's gained so much global popularity with the new wave of the global general audience that hasn't paid attention to k-pop before. His impact is much more vast then these other Olympians, athletes', e-gamers. and yet, he has to give up that trajectory to go serve. In the short run, JK will suffer, and S.Korea can still benefit from the residual interest in kpop and k-culture. But when BTS returns and no longer "owe" anything to S.Korea, who knows what they have up their sleeves? Maybe they will leave behind k-pop and truly tap into the general categories. There is HYBE America now. There's always that possibility that BTS can leave korea and extend their careers overseas. Who will cry then? I'm purely thinking from a strategic/business perspective. BTS being as honorable as they are and wanting to promote integrity, will always have to drag korea along on their coattails. but my previous point would be the right play i believe.
BTS has won the hearts of millions. When they come back, their come back world tour will break records that will be very hard to break again for generations to come. True Armys just need to trust in BTS, trust that they know what they're doing and that they already have plans in place, believe that Army will stick around for their return, and do what we can now to keep supporting them in silence. Let the haters talk their shit, let them rant about how great their favs are. We just keep quiet and wait for the boys to come back. And when they do, we just blow everyone else out of the water, to the point that there is no doubt in anyone's minds who is the biggest artists in the world. That is what we should do. Start saving up, concert tickets will be expensive. 💪
Sweetheart...I agree with you in every alphabet.😊 When you are 70 years old up you feel live day by day , now I need to live healthy and counting the days until June 2025 ... to see my 7 kiddos again....🤫🤗🫠😂🫰💜
Μy son is a e-gamer and extremely talented with computers technology etc( even hacking if he wanted too haha 😂) but when he will be done with his studies ( game development and terms I don't understand honestly 😂 HE will serve in the Greek military as well, it's mandatory in Greece 🇬🇷 as it is in S.K ...I agree with everything you so wisely told in your comment. BORAHAE ♥︎
And I quote SUGA " When we come back we will devoure the world "
@@piasambleben2796 Love Suga. Oh to be that savage...! :)
@@sallylonghurst4414 We know Suga has a way with words, and I actually believe him.
I still catch myself crying and tearing up whenever I see their older vidoes, or just hear their voices. I'm terrified that for this one time, I can't tell the future to make sure they come back safe and alive...but this had to happen. As much as we love them, we have to remember that these men are still proud South Korean citizens and do right by their country. We all want the power to make certain they'll come back safe and sound, but we have to let them go for now. It's also a test for ARMY. If we can be decent people when our role models are with us, then it's up to us to see if we can still be those same decent souls when they're gone. We can still love ourselves and use BTS as a means to help others love themselves too. I love and miss them so much, but I'm so proud of the men they've grown into.
Beautifully said 🤗
@@V-T.K Thank you.☺
🤗👍 you have expressed so well what many may feel. Have a lovely day or evening where you are.😀
@@V-T.K Thank you and may you too have a wonderful day/night wherever you are friend.😄
Thank you 😊 friend 👋
Here is a list of their discharge dates
Jin- June 12, 2024
J-Hope- October 17, 2024
RM and V- June 10, 2025
Jimin and Jungkook- June 11, 2025
Suga- June 21st, 2025
J-hope is going to be out in October 2024 not September right? I thought so
10/17/24 JHope is out 💜
Thought Suga would finish later since he's doing the alternate service, which is for 21 months.
@@emman.8655Yes, Suga’s Alternative Service is 21 months. Therefore, his discharge date is set for June 21, 2025. But if he has unused Leave days, he can choose to use those at the end of his service, potentially getting out earlier.
Awesome 👏
This was extremely difficult, I love these guys so much and when the last 4 were driven into the enlistment camp I felt such unbearable pain. It's amazing how you can have great love for those you've never met.
I'm not from S.K., therefore, even if I want to, I won't comment on their laws. I just pray that the Lord keeps them safe from all hurt, harm and danger and allow them to return with no physical or emotional wounds!🙏🏼 Sean, thank you for everything and reporting on our beautiful sweet angels❣️
Real talk🥺
yes prayers for their safe return
I feel you, but i'm quite relieve knowing Jin is there, coz i'm sure he will look after JK and Jimin. Tae seems mentally strong and ready. RM, always keep things together, he will be okay. What I most worried about is the controvertial "shower" thing. Oh God! they've better not mess with our BTS.
@@louisevee7542As big as our Army is, there will be hell to pay if any mishaps happen to our boys while serving.
I agree , if anyone gonna mess with any BTS members there will be a hell to pay when they get out from Army fans ! I hope they are smart enough to leave them alone 😊
Im so heartbroken 💔 I miss them already ❤And i find it soooo unfair they didn't ger exemption, what stupidity from S.K government. OMG 2 whole years of wailing 😩 Love your content Sean 🎉 Keep up the great work ❤🎉 ( sadly for me when BTS get discharged and done with their military service my Son will enlist 😢Military service is mandatory in Greece 🇬🇷 as well ..
I'm so proud of how both BTS and ARMY are handling this. That said, BTS should have NEVER had to serve. I feel like I'm not speaking out of the box by saying BTS has done more (as a whole) in forms of money, power and respect than any other person born in the country but who am I? Just a silly American.
You are not an American fool!
(I'm from Uruguay)
All of us foreigners were the ones who bought their records, merch and who helped BTS to be on top.
and therefore we fill the coffers of Korea and that company (hibe) with money!!!
I mean... we did have an opinion on all this!!
because the government used BTS over and over again for its international impact!
From one silly American to another, I feel ya. 😉
I thought they were crazy not to exempt them.
V decided to get trained in anti terrorism... does anyone think its so he has the skills to fend off the stalkers? Sasaeng fans be warned he will be a weapon when he is fully trained up xD
He said he wanted to conquer his fear but he didn't say what that fear was.
@@eileencritchley4630 Doesn't he have a fear of heights? I mean he could have other fears too, but I think that's one of them.
@@eileencritchley4630cuando dijo de miedos? Vi el último live y dijo que quería cumplir sus propias metas y que tenía un objetivo, nunca habló de miedos. Taehyung se preparó por varios años para enlistarse en esa unidad y lo logró, leí en la página del ministerio de defensa de ese país que los últimos 60 años solo 30 artistas han logrado entrar , creo que cumplió uno de sus objetivos, también dijo que recuperaría peso y mostraría su nueva versión en 2025.
@@Beto25144 Sorry but I don't understand any of that what language is that?
I’m going to watch everything and listen to all of the music on repeat!!!! And wait to see surprises from the members 💜 always and forever Army💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
same
A lot people in comments say "i am proud". I am not. I am sorry for bts and other korean men who have to go through this. Every korean nan i met only curse at this and think it is outdated practice that steals 2 years of their lives. So i am going to pray for our Bangtan boys to be really bulletproof and comevack uninjured🙏
well said!! I think exactly the same!
No! I'm not proud that they go to the army!!! They deserved to continue with their music happily, which is what they love and WANT to do!!
I am proud of them for how they are as human beings and all their art, but not because they are going to risk their physical and mental health to a military service that they should not do!!
and that their politicians do not recognize them for anything they have done even though they have used them in many things!!!!
I'm with you!!
I’ve had the same experience in talking to Korean men. I couldn’t find one that genuinely wanted to go and they told me their friends and relatives felt the same. It’s in the country’s best interest to make military service the only good choice. Otherwise it’s longer in jail than the MS would be or dip out of the country, then you are looked down upon for dodging service. I wish they had a voluntary military like my country, but many of these smaller countries have conscription unfortunately. It’d be nice not to need it, but while they only have a ceasefire with the North that could end at any time and not a peace treaty, this will have to be a thing. I’m proud of them but I recognize that they are only doing this because they have to. We all need to pray for their safe return to civilian life and things don’t get hot with NK. 🙏🏻🕊️
I’m still so pissed off about this. They do so much positive things for Korea and the world. I’m annoyed by fans who say it was their choice. They have no choice. Others who don’t impact at all get exemptions.
Same, I'm still very angry. And I agree that it wasn't their choice. Nobody wants to stop or delay his career. Besides, the way Jin spoke about the military service in his last Live before the enlistment, proves that he didn't like it.
Same. Exactly!
I am pissed off too, they did so much for Korea economically and have elevated the image of Korea; but they still have to enlist while some classical musicians are exempted. It seems Korea government is discriminating their K-p[op industry, so ironic; I guess classical music is more elegant and high-class to them.
Totally 💯 agree they had a huge hand in bringing money ect back to Korea
So Jeon Jungkook also couldn’t go into special ops like kim Tae hyung because of Tattoos? Seriously wow
South Korea has sent its national treasure to the military. There is nothing that can be done about it now. All seven of them are in. All we can hope is that they are protected from friendly fire. (since there is no war) It is going to be like a hard withdrawal because we are so used to having them around and anticipating when the next tour, event or live is going to happen. We know they provided content, but we know that it is not the same.
BTS is SK national treasures for sure.
I was given two kittens as a Christmas gift which i fondly named SUGA and HOPE. So yeah that's how I'll pass my time is taking care of this two bangtan furballs.
They never get a break😢, I think they should focus on themselves when they get out. To build their own personal life❤💜
BTS deserved so much better than the way the govt treated them. They gave exemption for Gamers who won in the Olympics. Are you kidding me!. Then they wanted to use Jin and Hobi for their screw up on the boy scout jambordie, are you kidding me!!!!. I know BTS said they would go, but they should have been exempted. They have given so much for S. Korea. They have broken through the western market, European market, and everywhere in the world. Tourism is up, ask yourself why? They were given the Culturial Merit Awared and Diplomatic passports, they asked RM to be a Public Relations Ambassador for the Miinstry of National Defense. They have spoken at the UN, White House, what more should they have done, to be exempted. Even on Hiatus due to this military enlistment, they have brought in a lot of money. I really miss them, and this should not have occurred. Suga comes out in June because of the type of services he went in on.
Totally agree and elected officials fail to understand the voting power of Army. If Politicians have crossed the line on fact based decisions and community good and kindness the purple vote will remove the bad players.
I am like you!!
and with enormous anger that cannot go away!!
I don't understand why this happens!! Seeing them sad and worried because they don't know what's going to happen! They can get injured and ruin their lives and careers!!
MANY say they experienced hell there! Many very famous idols had a very bad time, and all the testimonies you see from Koreans on UA-cam talk about the worst things about their lives in the army!
They did SO MUCH for their country! everything you wrote but they did advertising for tourism for 7 years!! and the busan concert! all FREE and only for the government!
That IS SERVING THE COUNTRY!
I am also outraged!!!
greetings 🇺🇾
On their return, they will need the time to readjust after military life and fans must be patient, understanding and fully support their plans with whatever happens next
Exactly! It doesn't matter whether someone is conscripted or volunteers for military service they need time to decompress after returning to civilian life.
Yes. Too many fans sound like they are expecting BTS to jump back into idol life right after their discharge.
The govt failed. The amount of $$$ and respect for South Korea BTS generated. Unforgivable. Thank you for your service and Army will keep the lights on until all brothers return. Thank you for your post you are always so honest and elegant in your presentations. Blessings forward
i agree, and i wouldn't be surprised if it's bad karma since bts gets people interested in korean language and kdrama, major importance for korean economy. think about the message, that if korea itself doesn't care enough about their kpop idols and fair treatment, why should the rest of the world care about kpop?
Canceled my trip
I'm going 2025 @@nanceemoon365
@@sc33h3o3 Even before our last four enlisted, views and attendance for the MAMA and MMA shows were WAY down... because BTS wasn't there. Meanwhile, 5 days into their enlistment, BTS's old songs are spiking #1s on I-tunes around the world. First Spring Day, then Outro: Tear, No More Dream, and Attack On Bangtan. ARMY's gone back to the beginning to support 'Bangtan Sonyeondan'- and they're calling themselves 'Bell' for a joke. There's been a mock streaming battle this weekend, team 2Kool4Skool vs Team O, RU L8 2?
K-pop interest was already on a decline, and that's probably going to continue. But some critics were predicting that BTS's popularity will also decline- even after their return- so ARMY's in a "Oh yeah? We'll show YOU who's popular and who's not!" kind of mood. As one commenter put it very well: "BTS are enlisted, but ARMY isn't. It's time to show them that we got their backs while they're gone."
Me too
Although I was furious when BTS didn’t get the exemption I think all of them enlisting is a better smarter option. They planned this out so well. All of them had an opportunity to debut their solo projects which became successful and more importantly they will fulfill their military service as South Korean men. Unlike those nepo children of the rich and powerful the BTS members are doing Korea proud. It also eliminates any hate and criticism in this area. Jin and J Hope have been doing so well in the military, although we don’t have a whole lot of news about Suga I am sure he is also doing well in his assignments. I am sure RM, Jimin, V and Jungkook will come through positively just like their older brothers. Even though they leave behind what they love to do most but it’s only temporary. Meanwhile, armies around the world are so fantastic in their show of support of BTS that their debut and older songs are charting! Thank you army! Please don’t be sad because we have so much to look forward to in the near future. Borahae 💜
There was talk about shortening their service that would have been more fair, that should've happened
@@sc33h3o3 As much as we would love to have them come back sooner I think that shortening their time would also invite unwarranted hate and criticisms. Out of jealousy there are a lot of people who love to hate BTS. As we continue to support them in their military endeavors just as we did with their music careers I’m sure they will find comfort in knowing we are always there for them. Coming back to us safely and healthy is utmost important. 💜
@@sharonnelson3713 I think as long as they went they for the most part would have the respect of people, eg in later polls it was over 60% that thought they should be exempted, apparently it was mainly younger men who opposed. After they did the Busan concert FOR FREE which did garner Busan being chosen to host, and then served, if they had served less than 18 months I personally don't think it would have mattered except to a very small minority. Just the fact that the 5 members have to endure two winters pisses me off, and three are in the area that is extra cold, I saw photos of soldiers being hazed marching shirtless in the winter. Even one day less of suffering would be better.
I wanted them to get the exemption because they really deserve it more than those who get the exemption for winning a gold medal, BUT I feel if they had gotten the exemption the government would've held it over their heads to do this, do that, etc. Now they'll serve their time and be free to do what the want to do without owing the government anything.
That's a good point. The government was already trying to use them- Busan, for example. (Which failed, incidentally; Saudi Arabia will be hosting the EXPO in 2030.) I can easily see some kind of 'We exempted you, now you have to comply with all our requests' emerging out of that.
Now if it had been a matter of actually changing the guidelines so that BTS *and other groups* could earn exemption, that would be a bit different. But it's all moot now; and now the government is starting to talk about *extending* the enlistment time again, so that their soldiers serve *more* time. Because they still can't seem to come up with a way to resolve the fact that their population is declining. It's not long now until they'll need 101% of males to be enlisted to fill the required-active quota...and that's not a thing that can happen.
Having all 7 in, hit me harder than I thought it would, however I am so excited to see Jin's projects, and the shenanigans he gets up to holding down the fort until 2SEOK is reunited when Hobi gets out in October. I think Yoongi is discharged 10 days after Jimin, and Jungkook. There are lots of countdowns. ARMY is On It! I think it's touching how we are counting the days, streaming their music, catching up on content, reliving our favorite memories, and finding ways to show them that we never, and will never forget them.
Are you ARMY, Sean? 😏
I miss them so much! I especially miss seeing their Live streams.
APO!BANGPO!💜
So, I'm not the only one who thought Tae could use his Military training to supplement his acting resumé, like his horse riding skills😊
That is what I believe too. He is learning skills that will help him play an action hero in acting projects.
Instead of soothing our hearts, ARMY needs to evolve during this time to become true supporters of BTS, that means not only giving them the space to process and grow in their journey but also promoting their welfare. The industry and fans need to support and respect artists so that they are emotionally healthy as well. It is so sad that BTS were pushed to the brink of burnout.
that was the COMPANY not the fans.
The company has exploited them since they were trained, even giving them little food, leaving them without sleep for days and driving them to exhaustion.
I really wanted them to not renew with that company.
@@inessacco4843 IMO, I don't think you have an accurate view of HYBE. There's a reason they didn't have a lot of food in the beginning, but they didn't starve. BTS was given way more leeway in how much to practice than other artists have been given at other companies. Certainly, they were expected to train in many areas and work hard, but if they hadn't wanted it, they would have quit and they wouldn't continue signing with HYBE. You can witness time and again that BTS have very high standards for themselves and push themselves further than they perhaps should, whether in training or during performances. If HYBE were a terrible company, they wouldn't provide medical attention when needed, etc. Again, IMO, I don't think HYBE has exploited BTS to an extent where they should be villainized. BTS members are not dumb and I wish fans would put more trust in the members' decisions.
IMHO I think that they might say it did them good. It gave them another purpose. They were burned out. As much as I despised the thought of them going. Especially after all they’ve done for their country I felt so let down. After thinking about it this maybe will give them a real life perspective instead of a crazy icon one they’ve been living. They’re with other guys that are close to their ages. It’s kind of a safer place that walking down a street and being mobbed. Idk what will happen. I just have faith that they’ll be safe and come back to us safely.
I think it’s a Sad,Sad day in South Korea. The government has failed these boys. When they come back in 2025 they’ll make millions and millions more for Big Hit and the government. They should be Ashamed. And don’t nobody text back and say it’s their duty. People with less influence was exempted
Exactly 💜🔮💜🔮💜🔮💜 well said
@@candacewallace4947 thank you
@@wandalewis5097 you're welcome 😊
exact! That's what makes me the most angry!
the government has used them SO blatantly! and they wanted to continue using them for presentations even though they were in the army!! as if they were puppets that they use whenever they want!
The worst thing is that that HIBE company agreed to let BTS be used by politicians WITHOUT ANY RETURN!!!
If I were them I would have left the country!!!
They are mega stars! In the US, for example, they could have continued their mega-successful careers! and not give a peso or anything else to a hypocritical and corrupt country that does not value them at all!!!
Jin completed his military service and returned in June this year just in time to be one of the torch bearers for the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris. Summer is not over for Jin as a Gucci brand ambassador and participated in the Gucci Spring/Summer 2025 Milan Fashion Show in Italy…he’s their fashion rock star!
I'm feeling the loss, but going to keep watching updates praying for them... and thanks for you much appreciated news ❤💜💜💜🫶💜
I erongly belive that god has plans for them....we as army just pray for them.....stop arguing about the law.. it is what it is....
Mad respect for Taehyung for even qualifying for SDT! I hope he never gets to use his new skills in actual combat. I do agree that any skills he acquires will serve him well in future acting projects. Hey, they might even do a concert stint where V rapels down and breaks through a window while Jimin comes in with crazy flying kicks and JK dodges bullets doing fancy dance moves! How about that?
When the last four announced their enlistment, I had to admit I wasn't prepared. I just hope they stay safe and healthy and nothing happens to any of the members. I hate Jin had to go through what he went through when he first enlisted, but I hope the military uses that incident as an example and they hopefully have found ways to keep BTS and other service members safe. As for now, I'll continue to stream their music, watch their content, and patiently wait for their return. Love you, BTS! love you, ARMY 💜💜💜💜💜
I wanna know about SK because of BTS, i anna visit SK because of BTS, but i trully, madly deeply doo0nt like sone of the BS burocratic arcaic laws.
Watch old Video and other groups that's what i'll be doing!! 12/31/2023
Feel so lost without them 💜😭I know you tried hard to exempt them by signing and making a petition 💜thank you so much for all that effort 💜The only fear is that hope they don’t get injured and will be in good health 💜they are the kings and they will continue to rule once the come out 💜they will excel in every field of work they do 💜army will love them always forever
yes tysm mr. sean
@@sc33h3o3 💜💜
Suga will be out June of 2025 not March.
Civil or Social service is 21 months
V is training to be the next James Bond. Or maybe he is still processing that early kidnapping situation Bighit did to the boys.
I lost all respect for south korea a while ago. all these years of hallyu are good f nothing now. this pride.....forget it, super conservative states say that and the us, of course. it's just a shame, stealing their best years. on the other hand I wished to hear they part ways with hybe. I am not happy they are doing that or were forced to do it. they will need time to re-adjust in their normal world. so don't expect your world tour in 2025
We still have all their music widely available on all platforms and we still can listen. If I'm not wrong, they will still receive some income if we listen
Every KPop Idol goes.
Every Fandom endures it.
BTS Fans will get through this.
Time flies. And before you know it they will be back.
Hang in there Army. You'll get through this.
Every male idol goes. Every BG fandom endures it.
💜This is so hard to accept, but if we don’t we will suffer even more. Pray for PEACE, this is such an unstable time on the planet. I feel so sad for them to be forced into the military and away from what they do best. They will be different when they return and so will we. Let’s all evolve and grow into the best versions of ourselves. So grateful we have each other. Thank you Sean for keeping us informed. Happy Holidays everyone! L💜VE🌟✨✨✨
You do know that BTS never asked not to go and never asked for the extension either. That extension was due to the Kpop Agencies not BTS and Not HYBE/BigHit. Those Kpop agencies didn't even invite BTS or their company to the discussions. However those disgusting Kpop companies used BTS as the example without their premission why KPOP artist should be exempt. Oh dear then what happened was the Government did change the law extending the age to 30year rather than 28 but the kpop artist needed to hold the Cultural Merit Award. Yeah right so the only Kpop artist's that hold that Cultural Merit Award are all 7 members of BTS who didn't even ask for the extension. So the new law called nicknamed The BTS Law.
The Kpop Agencies were mad about it and petitioned the Government to change the law back citing it was too hard and unrealistic. This is because they know that no other Kpop artist is ever going to be award the Cultural Merit Award.
Now no one can point fingers at BTS and say they 'Got out of military service'.
I feel that BTS is to be congratulated most for what they did NOT do in regards to mandatory MS. First, they did not ask for the law to be changed to exempt KPOP artists, as you pointed out. They decided on their own that they would serve. Second, they do not seem to have employed brokers to get them alternative service as some KPOP idols have done. (Two who were convicted this spring for trying to evade MS by claiming false medical conditions both used brokers.) Third, BTS/Hybe has not used their influence to get the members easy posts. Jin, Jimin and Jungkook are based on the frontline, J Hope is in the nothern part of Korea, during a time when the possibility of war involving the two Koreas has increased dramatically.
@@susanhurd1700 I completely agree with everything you've written.
Hello dear Sean! Hi 🇺🇾
I was waiting for your video of this... even though there is nothing more to do or comment...
I have great appreciation for you for all the information and your position on the exemption (which they deserved more than anyone else) bts.
I'm very angry with the situation, and I have a feeling of worry (especially for Jimin) and sadness that I really find difficult for him to leave!
What annoys me the most besides those corrupt politicians who recently exempted video game players but not BTS!!
I also get angry at the ARMYS who did NOTHING for them! for protesting against this injustice😒
Please do not use Yoon's image when you talk about mandatory military service. He never served a day of mandatory service.
The only good thing to come out of this debacle is, hang on, there isn’t one I can think off. We know that even if the guys hate the situation that they are in now, they will do the very best that they can. We have been and always will be, proud, of every single member of BTS. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Well... it might help purge the fandom of some of these infuriating solos and saesangs...
@@kshafer6220 well we can only hope, won’t hold my breath though 😠
Suga has to do 21 mos so he should be back by June 25 also not March
Hey Sean, still here in Houston, still here watching your show through your transition back to the states. Glad to see you are still ARMY by our side. We are all hurting so please post about the guys every once in a while, ok? We SO SO SO appreciate it. Love your content, love how you break it all down for us. Happy Holidays...
Houston? Sean’s in H-town?
What I really don’t understand is why is the Korean Army putting so much training and money into the Special Anti-Terrorist Group when these guys are out in 18 months. Seems like a waste of resources. Hoping all the guys return safe and well
Incredible. I have to admit that its pretty admirable that a group of their status are still working within South Korean rules. Regardless of what you think of the requirement, it is impressive. Shows how selfless they are. Couldn't imagine American musicians doing this.
Many US musicians have joined the military when called upon to do so.
@@ScarDragon Agreed. Should have clarified. I was more or less referring to the mandatory requirement.
Rm, Jimin, V and Jungkook said that each of them did a lot of content that going to be released during their military service, so that should occupy us and lessen the feeling of loss…like we just got Jungkook’s collaboration with Usher Music Video, Jimin and Jungkook did something like a travel variety show, think RM and V each will have a travel
Vlog or something because they did some traveling on their personal time. IU just said she collaborated with V on a song for her comeback…I’m hoping maybe Suga and Jhope collaborated with her, too. There’s hints that Jimin did some dance collaboration. Also hints of new albums from RM, V, Jimin… This doesn’t make the sense of emptiness less, but it helps… for me, since BTS who made Korea lots of money and helped put Korea on global forefront wasn’t exempt, then athletes, classic musicians and other groups shouldn’t be exempt either. Plus, women shouldn’t be exempt, they should do community service or public service-relations work for up to 2 years.
wait!! in March 2025??? we were told he'll be back in June 2025? don't they get 21 months when it's public service? as far as we knew he'll be the last to return, are you sure he'll be back in March???? this means for Festa 2025 they'll all be back!!!!!!
Listening to you is a great pleasure. Articulate, informed, and not swayed by emotional rhetoric.
I really miss these young gentlemen, they all have unique characters that I adore and love. I know they face a lot of hardships but they are all so strong and awesome in the way they handle it, I pray that the Lord keep them safe and bless them abundantly 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Sorry, but some of your information does not line up. Hobi won't be discharged until October 2024. Suga will be the last to be discharged. The older ones received no special accommodations to be able to attend the entrance ceremonies of the younger ones. They had to use their vacation days to do so. Their gov failed them. Do you really think they'd give them special privileges? No. Lastly, Jimin and Jungkook decided to enlist together. I highly doubt it was the military's planning that they ended up enlisting together. I don't think they give a $#!+ about their government's so-called plans anymore. The boys are taking their decision-making into their own hands and good on them for doing so.
Like when it was announced that they would be enlisting the day after the Yet To Come Busan Concert.
I also wonder about RM cutting his hair military style months ago. I think both were a flex. A very classy flex.
Streaming BTS’s music every day 😊. Can’t wait for j-hope Hope on the street project 💜
I care as well about BTS I think right now with all this controversy going on about RM, Jung kook, Jimin, V I think it’s better for them to be in the military right now they need to get away from all these saesangs, and the other people who are trying to ruin their careers. It’s not right they will hopefully be safe away from Seoul right now. We will all count down the days, hope for them to be safe and healthy while they are serving. Have a safe return and be free from controversy.💜 Am I right Army?
Well I never thought I would have a visceral response to someone that doesn’t even know I exist going into the SK military but I did. Such a knot in my stomach. I really missed those guys, especially Jungkook who was the king of “lives”. He was so engaging that you felt like you were hanging out with him. The military experience is going to add another dimension to their individual characters. It is really fascinating to think that V is going to train for special ops. Namjoon being fluent in English is probably going to be an interpreter. It seems like Yoongi got a really good deal with social services in the military because of his shoulder. It is rumored that he will work 9-5 with weekends and holidays off. I hope they stay healthy and I’m looking forward to any content that they have prepared for us prior to enlisting knowing that they will all be back soon. I’d also like to say that I really enjoy your content.
RM is already the special Ambassador working with the military to recover fallen Korean's eg identification and returning of their remains and of American and Japanese soldier's remains.
@@eileencritchley4630 in the know. Thanks for sharing.
@@Menow871 Thank's I watched his investment for it it was nearly a year ago.
@@eileencritchley4630 It remains to be seen how a person holding the rank of private first class can be reconciled with the position of special Ambassador in a special unit of the ROK Army. I think this is why no one seems to know where he is headed after basic training.
@@susanhurd1700 You might be right I was wondering myself how it all works out.
Army go "STREAM" all BTS discography now! BTSArmy already charted "Spring Day, No More Dream, and Attack of Bangtan top of the charts, GO ARMY!!!" 🥳😯🤭😂🤩👏🕺🎶🎤👑🥇🏆💜💞🌎🇺🇸 #BTSxARMYGLOBALDOMINATION
do so have been doing so since Jin went in.
@@eileencritchley4630 🙋🏽🤗💜✌️🙏🇺🇸👍
Just like the members all said RM shouldn’t drive for the sake of world peace, I think he should not be in the military for the same reason lol!
But jokes aside, what is scary to me is that Namjoon is somewhat prone to having accidents. The weapons and equipment he will be handling are not toys. They are pretty dangerous and very expensive. I’m really nervous for him.
I think I will be holding my breath until OT7 returns.
Not to sound harsh but I don't think they will be back as a group again. Military changes the outlook of life
I agree it really does
I wouldn't be surprised if they have 2 years of content to keep the fandom busy. Then we have Jin coming back in 6 months!
I think its great they joined because it is a right of passage. Thier fathers, uncles, brothers, friends and sons all go so it will be harder if bts doesn't go. They will miss that shared experience with thier families and even thier future sons. Imagine everyone you know goes and has those stories but bts wouldn't have those memories to share with thier future sons if they don't go
I think the Korean government is very stupid to insist BTS having to do military services. BTS is a precious asset of Korea that bringing money into Korea, and bringing prestige to the country, why a country suddenly freezes its precious assets with the risk that they might depreciate two years later?? BTS has to enlist, how about Son Heung Min? So football is more important that the golden egg BTS??
Exacly!! It has no sense!! 😡
There's so much content to catch up on. I'm back to work, so I'm far behind on the solo stuff. My main concern is for all of them to make it through their service unharmed in any way. Stay safe and stay healthy my beautiful men. Always look forward to your videos Sean. Be well
Your discharge dates for J-Hope and Suga are wrong. J-Hope will be discharged in October 2024 and Suga will also be out in June 2025 because he has to serve 21 months instead of 18 months.
Does he ever read our posts he always likes single post lol
Thank you for this, Sean. I always look forward to your perspective. 💜
I think we all just have to remind ourselves they they are the ones serving and not able to do the things they want. They have given us so much content over the years that should last us forever. Not to mention all the content that will come out. I am definitely sad but I think ARMY knows how to keep each other entertained and connected.
It's not the fact of "being entertained" that matters to me. They are not just clowns for my amusement!
I, like millions, care about YOUR HEALTH, and your physical and emotional well-being. And the Korean military service is horrible and exposes them to extreme situations that harm them!
For example, many say they have had bad knees, others have even wanted to commit suicide, and many idols went through all kinds of horrendous things there!
How do you proof a “Korean ethnicity”? It certainly won’t show up on your DNA
Do you think RM will be a Translater for the military?
I could see him going into KATUSA.
He's already a ambassador for the military in regards to the indentification and recovery of Korean military killed in the conflicts along with USA and Japanenese soldiers and returning their remains to their families.
i feel like they will make a comeback in 2026 as a group and will go on a tour
I’m glad V has a plan and I hope he does get something of value out of this experience. It’s the least he deserves.
This doesn't make sense at all. Sending the ones who represents the national prestige to enlistment?!!!. I'm so angry and I feel so sad and empty without them, is a weird feeling. But Army will be here wating for them. We love them so much, they are more than just a group of music to us. SK government should be ashamed for this.
I feel the same 😡 angry and sad 💔
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Yes, BTS & fans will realize how short the service is in hindsight 5, 10, 25 years from now. What I've been saying for a few years now is, let's remember, that the BTS band concept is fictional military. So by going to actual conscription, BTS might possibly become the only music act/band in global history that will be both fictional & non-fictional military. They will become part of 2 armies, not just 1 as before, of which that itself is also both fictional & non-fictional army. And now they will actually be able to handle real weapons, military-grade nonetheless, & also use real bulletproof armor & bombs/grenades. All of these military nomenclature & wordings that have been used for BTS & ARMY for 10 years are now actually becoming real stuff. That even includes "muster". I realize that the exemption thing had been dangled like a carrot in front of their faces, but I think going to military duties was the best real path for them. They had already said years ago that they will serve. Imagine a music band that revolves around military themes yet not actually going to real military. In a nation where there is conscription, it could actually be embarrassing to be an entertainment act that is pretend military but then not going to real military. Had BTS got exempted, that could possibly get them mocked & belittled by haters & critics for the rest of their lives, even if others have gotten previously exempted over the years, because BTS is a military concept. We have already surmised that BTS was just one of those things that was destined to be, as many fans have said, even J-Hope said something to that effect. So when Bang PD invented this band to have a military concept, I think that also additionally sealed their destiny & fate to also become real military. That could be a reason why they did not get exempted, it was not part of their destiny. BTS have already gone through many trials & tribulations, obstacles & rites of passage. Going to military should just be another rite of passage. And the most important thing is that them going to military should not be considered a bump in the road in their careers. It should actually be considered honorable, esteemed, proud & noble to go. Because let's face it folks, in the grander scheme of things, it is not all fun, games & music. That SK military is there for a reason. Without it, South Korea probably would not have existed & thus subsequently, no KPop industry & no BTS in existence. If you want to blame anybody for that, then blame Karl Marx, Lenin & Stalin. Whatever the case, after their service is over, BTS will finally come full circle back to their military concept & military band name by actually becoming real soldiers. Maybe one of them might even train a bit in reconnaissance (scout), who knows. BTS have already gone beyond music by having hundreds of charities globally in their name/proxy, having saved peoples lives through the messages in their songs, & now they can actually help defend their nation for real. All of that makes BTS & ARMY richer in substance & will prove a positive effect on their legacy for the history books. They will all be back before we know it, just as I said in my first sentence above. Big Time Soldiers 2025.
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It’s my understanding that, because Suga entered under alternative service, he has to serve longer……so he won’t be out until June of 2025.
I heard the same.
I feel like such a bad person for the way i feel. S Korea telling BTS they didn't have a choice is what bothers me. It's a slap in their face after everything theyve done for S Korea. I'm 54 yrs old and didnt know there was such a difference in S and N Korea. Schools didn't teach that in the U.S.. I didn't even know Samsung was from SK. You could hear the word Korea in the U.S. and you thought of a bad place and war cuz of what we were taught in school. Schools are teaching the difference now cuz of BTS (fact). The BTS members have such high morals they wouldve chosen to enlist anyway, but not given them the option is a backslap right across their face. I also hope the govn see and feel the effects hard🫢🫢. (Im sorry it hurts me when i know it hurt them) The Korean news even said it was around 60% 40% being in BTSs favor to exempt, but the younger generation that votes was high in that 40%...ME:also the ages of ppl that don't like BTS and like other kpop idols (Imagine how bad the economy would hurt if BTS told ARMY not to put another $1 into S Korea until they got out. That govn would see real fast.. But BTS didnt do that. It's not their character) No, its not my country and no, its not any of my business but i can still fill this way! It hurt my feelings when i know it hurt theirs . I just needed to vent ARMY
I'M WITH YOU! I FEEL THE SAME!! 😡💔 Anger and sadness!!! I'm from Uruguay.
But I'll correct you something: they were waiting to see if they would be exempted and would have taken it! On April 2023 in LA, at a press conference, the Hibe spokesperson said he hoped the government would decide once and for all whether to exempt them or not so that they could plan their future. I mean: if they had taken the opportunity to exempt themselves!
But the government was a hypocrite and did not decide anything and Jin's date arrived 💔
It hurts me because the army is horrible!! If you look at interviews of those who were there, they say that they lived through hell!
horrible tests like the gas chamber and others! 💔 they didn't deserve that! and they may be left with physical and/or psychological consequences of that!
@@inessacco4843 totally agree with you. I believe Big Hit was given an impression by the hypocrites that BTS might be getting an exemption, but then they went back and forth playing with politics; so BTS was fed up with all these and Jin decided to go ahead with his enlistment cuz deadline was approaching.
Not doing well with this.
V.. afraid of heights... repelling down from tall building?... dropping out of helicopters? 😬
Everywhere they've been, we see them at departure airport, then at arrival airport SAFE. When they were injured or sick, we got updates (even lives). This the first time we can't see them, don't know what's happening with them, or if they are safe and well.
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Taehyung ya superó su miedo a las alturas, porque crees que pasó las pruebas? tiene 28 años y se preparó para ingresar ahí , el ejército de corea no regalan nada a nadie, el que ingresa a esa unidad es porque se lo ganó.
I am with you!! Same feeling
BTS is in the military, but ARMY is not, stream their songs, keep them on top of the charts!
Well said! 👏👏💜💜
Thanks for explaining. You answered some of my questions. I was wondering if V had to do some special testing to get into that division.
Suga will be in for 21 months since he has a desk job
Suga has a June 2025 date because he did the social service enlistment
Hope they're protecting the boys as national treasure ❤
I will be listening to BTS'S music and waiting for their return. I wish them a safe journey.
It's very scary, North Korea shot a ballistic missile today. Not sure where to but it doesn't leave a good feeling.
Fortunately what's true is that apparently NK does that stuff to flex all the time but they know if they'd ever actually do anything they'd get obliterated
Agreed. North Korea is still at war with South Korea. The peace deal was a treaty made in the 1960s for a temporary cease fire agreement.
@ 4.40 politicians would've gotten backlash but nowhere near the backlash Bangtan would've gotten! I'm 100% certain Bangtan would've enlisted regardless of what law exempted them from doing it. They're way too smart to choose exemption and know Koorea way too well
They could've gotten the 18 months reduced, that was discussed by politician
@@sc33h3o3 they would never accept anything Koreans could use later to call em out for though? SK is extremely touchy abt this and anyone who even smells like they could be privileged isn't forgiven, ever. It's different for chaebols and their boys cause they're not public figures but performers? way too risky
Wrong: they were waiting to see if they would be exempted and would have taken it! On April 2023 in LA, at a press conference, the Hibe spokesperson said he hoped the government would decide once and for all whether to exempt them or not so that they could plan their future. I mean: if they had taken the opportunity to exempt themselves!
But the government was a hypocrite and did not decide anything and Jin's date arrived 💔
It hurts me because the army is horrible!! If you look at interviews of those who were there, they say that they lived through hell!
horrible tests like the gas chamber and others! 💔 they didn't deserve that! and they may be left with physical and/or psychological consequences of that!
@@inessacco4843 you said it yourself.. it was Hybe ceo, not Bangtan. Jiin himself said he was gonna enlist in 2020.. What Hybe who clearly depends on Bangtan for anything wants =/= what Bangtan wants. Are you a baby ARMY? please check their lyrics, there's a great bog by an ARMY called doolsetbangtan. They were gonna serve no matter what their govt nor Hybe asked for. It was the only way to be free
@@fi0rella yes of course! It seems to me that you are the one who is uninformed!
Did you not see what the BTS spokesperson said in the PRESS RELEASE IN 2023???? look it up and read it!
He said: We hope that the government decides as quickly as possible on whether or not they are going to grant the exemption to BTS because it is difficult for artists to organize their future.
I mean: they were WAITING to see what they would solve
Do STH Korea have an SAS unit in its Army ??
My exact thoughts about Taehyung's choice of placement. When I heard where he's going and when he said in their last weverse live that we shouldn't worry about him because he has a plan, I immediately thought that he decided if he already needs to go and play soldier for a while he might as well get full training for future works. But I think actually a lot of planning went into their enlistment just not many people look into it that deeply.
Suga is rightfully where he is because of his shoulder surgery, I don't question that at all. But. He's the main producer in their group. Namjoon can work during these months in a notebook if nothing else because he can write lyrics but Yoongi needs his music equipment to be productive and this way they can get a huge head start for when they all come back because after his workday ends he has full access to his home studio. He could produce a full album for them until 2025 so they can get back on track very quickly. Even if his social service placement wasn't guaranteed, I feel that some handshakes would have happened in the background to help a tiny bit with the situation and I also feel that not even the officials would have had any problem with it knowing the circumstances. As I said, his shoulder injury more than warrants his placement but that's the best thing that could have happened.
I think Jin and Hobi didn't have any special plans just went with the "we'll see how it goes" option but they are both natural leaders. Especially Jhope is used to direct a group of people to move with perfection so I understand how they ended up as instructors. And I'm guessing it was the military base's idea of help as well because this move made sure that they are always above the others in rank (except the actual officers who work there of course but they are somewhat colleagues now) so they are protected as much as they can be.
Namjoon speaks English well, he fulfilled all kinds of diplomatic roles in the past, well mannered, intelligent and eloquent. Hell, he was shaking hands with state presidents...I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up in that special unit that is kinda like a link between the Korean and US army? I don't know what the unit is called but I know it's a coveted position with huge number of people applying but very little are actually accepted.
And the maknae line... I already said why I think Taehyung chose what he did. Jimin and Jungkook going together is the perfect choice for both of them. Me and my friend were joking about how Jimin is there to keep Jungkook in check otherwise he would be jumping out of airplanes and swimming with crocodiles... 😂 On the other hand Jungkook can have his own set of problems, he's young, there will definitely be men there who are older than him and might not be that fond of idol stars or rich kids in general. I don't think it would turn physical but sometimes words can be even more hurtful. But with the two of them together they can keep each others up without problem. And Jimin needs somebody with him just as much. I think he's prone to depression, he himself said that if he starts having negative thoughts it's hard for him to find his way out of that loop. Depression and enlistment is never a good combination. So with Jungkook there they can have each others backs.
That is of course only my take on things but it seems logical. I just wish for them to come back quickly and healthy.
Looking at the length of your comment, you seem very knowledgeable about BTS boys. Honestly I didn’t read much of it, but being a Jimin fan, I scrolled down until JM started appearing. Question to you is, who diagnosed Jimin with DEPRESSION? “Prone to depression”? Are you a psychiatrist? yes JM has said he’s very private, he doesn’t like to be alone but he doesn’t like sharing his own problems with others, he’s clearly a workaholic and perfectionist. Neither Jimin nor anyone around him has said anything about JM having any psychological disorder so please quit throwing around words like depression so casually. Don’t misunderstand his kind nature as weakness. The reason why Jimin and JK enlisted together is still unknown except for two of them, I hope they’ll share with us someday, until then let’s not pretend to be experts.
The unit you are talking about for RM is called Katusa with the US Military.
@@td7433 First: you openly admit that you didn't even read my comment but you still felt the need to butt in. How thoughtful of you. Second: I'm not a psychiatrist but I'm a nurse of 32 years and my job is to notice the signs even if the patient doesn't say anything. Third: it's not even a guesswork with Jimin. You don't seem to know him as well as you think you do because apparently you are not aware that he himself said this. I was literally quoting him when I said when he starts thinking about negative things he can't get out of that loop. These were his exact words. And that is a form of depression, when your negative thoughts are ruling your life to the point where you can't get rid of them. It has nothing to do with his caring and private nature or what ever you brought up. Lastly: I didn't say they are together because of that. I only said that it's good for him that they are together. Jimin is a perfectionist as you said and military is freakin hard, nobody expects from the new recruits to be perfect on the first try but they do yell at you to do better as it is common in the army. And with a perfectionist as Jimin is, with him chewing himself up at every mistake he makes, I imagine that won't go down well. So yes, I'm glad that the two of them went together.
@@viktoriatoth5809 you’ve been a nurse for 32 years? that’s a long time but still doesn’t change the fact that you’re just a nurse, not a doctor. Depression is not a nursing diagnosis. You’re not qualified to diagnose JM with depression for something he has said 5 years ago. I didn’t read your full comment because I only care about Jimin. You didn’t mention him until towards the end. Your comment started with Taeyang and then started with Makhne line and started with Taeyang again. I’ve followed JM since day 1, I don’t claim to know everything about him. FYI, Depression, most commonly interferes with your daily life (work, study, sleep you name it), it decreases your ability to function normally. when was the last time you saw JM slacking off?? I’ll wait for your answer. I’m a critical care nurse myself, not as old as you but I know my limits. I deal with lots of mental health patients who gets admitted with medical issues. I don’t even dare to say the word unless it’s clearly listed in their past medical history. Military is “freaking hard”? I don’t think any of the members were concerned about military being hard. They were sad about putting their career on hold for almost 2 years. I’m a huge JM fan and i love him with all my heart, I’m sad because I won’t see him for a long time. But trust me, I’m not even bit worried about him not being able to do basic military stuff. “Chewing himself for every mistake he makes”? What mistake are you talking about? Let me remind you, Before BTS, Jimin has spend 8 years of his life training various martial arts which includes Kendo, Taekwondo, he has black belt in both. He exercises everyday and he loves running, he’s a trained contemporary dancer. JM has been facing challenges head-on since he was a teenager. What else is required? Commitment to the mission? Organization skill? Team work? I can confidently say that JM and JK are among the best in their group. Leave JM alone if you don’t know much about him.
@@td7433 Oh, a solo stan. You can't even write the other members' names correctly so I'm done answering to you. Completely ignoring the part about Jimin himself saying these things just so you can push your own warped agenda says everything. Jimin is perfect as he is. Nobody denies that. And that's it.
To be honest, nobody want to enlist. Even normal Korean guy don’t want it, can u imagine ppl with such popularity. But they have to because is mandatory. They know very clearly & always say that they will go. They never want exemption. If they get exempted, they will sure get backlash. It’s good that they choose to shorten the period that we need wait for all to complete their services, while others group need wait for years. After this, nobody can use this issue to shit on them anymore.
You're not omniscient to be able to say they never wanted exemption, there were talks and meetings discussing revising exemption criteria and BTS were waiting
@@sc33h3o3 well said!!!
Yoongi is doing 21 months so not out until 21st June 2025
What gets me is that the BTS Guys contributed so much to their country and their country couldn't save them from the Military. And I think it's a bit messed up.😢❤ . It seems that the government didn't even try to keep BTS out of the Military.
That hypocritical government wanted BTS to go to the army to promote the army!!! even though it was known that they deserved exemption more than any other Korean!
13:47 Jhope released physical album though. You should check the info before recording
Yes, but the Jack in the Box physical album did not get released till August 18, 2023, more than one year after the original digital studio album was released (July 15, 2022). It would be easy to miss, unless you’re ARMY. It seemed more like an afterthought (to release the physical album), since the other members were releasing their solos with physical albums, JHope decided he wanted to do the same. It didn’t do as well in sales, though. I think it would have if he released a physical album in 2022.
I knew V would be special forces
I am appauled to see how long it took the South Korean authorities to make up their minds about BTS' military enlistment!, It's obvious that no matter how much you do for your country, as in BTS'case, it really doesn't matter!
Agreed!!! 🤦♀️
People need to STOP talking about the MONEY they are bringing into Korea. Cultural impact data is where the true value of BTS to Korea is where the real argument you can win about. Although it is all academic now.
The reason their almost $5 billion annual contribution is brought up because it undeniably shows their influence especially in terms of tourism, people who wouldn't have taken an interest in Korean foods or products and probably wouldn't otherwise travel to Korea
@@sc33h3o3 Many counter-argue that there are other economic contributors who are not exempted or given special considerations. It is not annual revenue, or even profit, but economic impact. But even talking IMPACT (not just revenue or profit from sales but resulting employments and spin off businesses such as restaurants, transports, accomodations, etc) the argument is that they are not the biggest and nothing special. Exemptions are most notably discussed based on the ability of citizen to increase the profile of South Korea internationally. That is what Olympic medals is about. THAT is what they HAVE DONE. This is a more CONCRETE achievement EQUIVALENT to Olympic gold medalists and classical musicians achievements whatever they are which is the weirdest one I have ever come across but whatever.
The $5 billion annual tourism and other things is undeniable, but why they should be special in that regards is debatable.
Their value as A CULTURAL ASSET is a more CONCRETE argument as it put them on the same like as OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALISTS (I honestly don't know how to think about those classical musicians I think that is just an elitist loop hole for the rich and powerful not to have their sons serve.
An argument that pit them against the likes of Samsung, and other corporations, is not only unfair (HYBE is a corp but BTS is not), but not as apparent in highlighting their real UNIQUE contribution.
I felt like they were all excited and looking forward to enlisting, but I did sense some apprehension from RM. I know he will do well and they all will. They always said they planned to enlist, never expecting exemption. I’m so looking forward to Jin’s and subsequently Hobi’s return.
I never had the sense of their excitement about enlisting, quite the opposite. However, that aside, they were entitled to, and should have been offered an exemption. In true SK style, they were abused by a gang of old, hard nosed, out of touch, old doddering men, called govt. ministers, the leader of whom, the President, was himself exempt from military service.
Some apprehension on RM's part could also be because he has to think of the group as a whole and the well-being of each member and worry about what they are experiencing in the military and how that will affect them. He also has to be forward-thinking to 2025 and what that might look like, despite maybe having his own personal concerns about joining the military and doing it without the other members there.
Taehyung received award from the SK president; For contributions to arts and culture. Namjoon ambassador to the Military of Defense. (correction Minister of Defense).If I remember correctly he will be helping to bring home.??? I said before I haven’t been excited about pop music since the Jackson five. I was enjoying JK/Usher MV collaboration. My UA-cam comment “the whole world is dancing” It meant to be humorous I got a reply “Don’t speak for the world. My reply “wow! are you okay?” Thinking she might be really hurting.I said all that to say BTS is that common denominator. (Love or Hate) I will be guarding my heart and praying for them and army. I love their strength and courage. I think it would have been nice they had a real choice. Thanks for the update Seon .
I'll be praying for everyone's safe return. BTS and non-BTS members. Based on your videos, military service can be difficult for idols. An after the D-P k-drama, it can be difficult in general. I pray that all goes well. Great video and commentary! 😊
suga will be back in june like the rest of them because his service lasts longer he is not regular 18 mounts. they said it on korea now. so please confirm i hope you are right
Tell me that Hybe tough what I am thinking….some Hybe bodyguard that didn’t yet have served their military service entered at the same time of the members did…I don’t know about you but if I was as precious as BTS to my company probably my company would have enough money to pay undercover bodyguards to do the job…🤔
From everything I have heard them say in interviews/Vlives etc., they all wanted to be good citizens of South Korea and do their civic duty. Will watch and stream BTS till they come back. 💜🇧🇸
J Hope does have a physical Album I have both the Vinyl version and The Extended Hope edition CD version. He didn't plan to have a physical version but people complained so he bought one out earlier. He'd only planned the digital version and then later to release the Vinyl version but because people complained he then bought out the later CD Extended Hope Edition CD, which contains live performance's from his Lollapalooza Concert.
I feel fairly confident that RM is going into some kind of intelligence division. Given his high IQ (148) and the fact that he already had a role in the government working with finding and returning military serviceman’s remains (I think I have that right) I do not believe we will ever really know where or how he is serving.
Also his role with UN.
Or possibly a translator between Korean and American military?
These boys.......gah.
I can't believe gamers got an exemption for winning first place. You don't know what you got till is gone