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For the spring sound of the Expert you could open it up and apply keyboard lube to the problem springs. Should work help whether they’re leaf springs or coil springs. Use the thickest grease you can.
nice review. Been using the Expert for a few years and love it. Have you tried putting anything under it to lift up the one end to adjust the angle? Little piece of cardboard or something might make a huge difference for you.
Thanks! Nope, I never tried raising the bottom of the Expert, yet. Although, I am now currently rocking the Kensington Orbit Fusion as my new daily driver (which I compared with the Expert in another video). The problem with placing anything underneath a mouse is that the mouse may be soon slide off or wobble, especially with soft deteriorating materials like cardboards... if I only had a 3d printer that would be different. Thanks for passing by ;)
Thanks for this review. I bought expert couple days ago, before than I saw the video. And it looks like I made god choise. One thing that upset me that the I can assign functions for pressing the top two buttons at the same time, and do the same with bottom buttons, but there is no way assign actions for pressin the left 2 buttons and right. Moreover clicking top left and bottom right buttons and vise verse is possible as well. So we would can have 4 additional programming actions, but we have not it
I'm glad you are happy with your mouse! I think you, indeed, made a great choice! If I was you, I would fire an email to Kensington with your button combo suggestion. I don't think it would take them that long to add this in a future software update. In the meantime, I guess you could achieve what you want fairly easily with the free software Auto Hot Key? I hope this helps, and thanks so much for passing by 😉
Yup, that's how the whole trackball journey started for me... wrist pain similar to carpal tunnel syndrome after hours and hours of computer. Hopefully you'll work better with your new TB... and consider that when it comes to pain and posture... the Expert wins hands down (in my honest opinion). Thanks for passing by ;)
I didn’t like the tilt of the Kensington Expert either. I almost want to turn it back to front, or build a little wedge to raise the palmrest end. Also good criticism about moving the ball while scrolling.
I do agree about the tilt, although, my take is that Kensington may have had no choice in this case. The Expert ball is huge, and this, unfortunately, means that the mouse needs a significantly thick case. The alternative would be (as you suggested) to have the thicker part on the front and a leaner back, which may be more ergonomic... but the caveat, in this case, would be that unless the user would balance the keyboard height, one shoulder is now sensibly higher than the other, which isn't good. The other way around for Kensington would have been to create a flat case and have the ball sticking out, as they did with the Slimball... but that means that sometimes you are hunting for the buttons... whether the Expert's buttons are almost impossible to miss (or at least 3 out of 4 are). Personally, I feel like the compromises that Kensington has done with the Expert are good enough, but I understand this will differ from hand to hand. Thank you so much for passing by ;)
Been using the Expert for years, never want anything else. Cured my developing wrist pain too. Pair it with the small Kensington gel wrist rest instead of the stock one.
Great video, and thanks for replying to our comments! I'm c5/6 quadriplegic (arm function, but no finger function) and I've used the Kensington Expert for 30+ years in my job (software engineer) and at home. At home I use several ThinkPads (T430 to T470). One of my T470's has a problem (once or twice a week) where the trackball stops working, and I have to reboot the laptop (or maybe replug the mouse, but that's too hard for me). Have you ever seen this problem (I saw that you have a T470 too)? I would like to find a better solution than rebooting. Also, I'm embarrassed to say I've never programmed specific functions on the mouse. I would love to have a click-drag function, so I don't have to click the keyboard while rolling the ball. Can you tell me how to program that, or point me to a help page please? I'm thinking it could be a click of the top-right mouse button to set click-drag mode, since I don't currently use the top right button.
Hey thanks man :) So, I no longer have the T470, nor the Expert. But, my setup is somehow similar, as I use a Kensington Orbit Fusion (one of their newer trackball mouse), and a Lenovo Thinkpad X380. Regarding the trackball that stops working... is it wired or wireless? If it's wired try to use a different USB port on your laptop and see if it's more stable, if it is wireless try to change the batteries (if you use rechargeables, mind that my mouse does not like them and I need to use normal alkaline). To program the mouse, you'll need to go to the Kensington's website and download their dedicated software called "KensingtonWorks". Once you have installed it, it's really straightforward to program anything you like... you'll see! But if for whatever reason, you have some difficulties, just hit me up in the comments, and I'll see what I can do to help you out ;) The Kensington software may even improve your mouse stability, and you may solve both issues with one stone. Here's the link to the download page of the software: www.kensington.com/software/kensingtonworks/ I hope this is all helpful and let me know how you do. Thanks for passing by ;) Ale
I found out that to scroll with the SlimBlade, it is better to use the index finger to hold in place the rotational axis while using the middle (and optionally your thumb) finger to actually rotate the ball. With enough practice, the cursor movement becomes minimum. It would be also nice if you could add the classic Logitec Trackman Marble to the mix. I use both the Slimblade and the Marble, and I think this last one is quit good, only if it had some kind of proper scrolling and bigger ball would be the winner.
That makes actually sense. I never used the Slimblade in that way. Thanks! I will certainly try to do a comparison video with the Logitech Marble too as soon as I can, as this have been asked a lot by others as well ;) Thanks so much for passing by!
The expert is superior to these IMO. The construction, weight of the ball, surface coverage of hand etc. I also use the Orbit Fushion on the go. I will say, the normal Orbit here was my introduction to Trackballs. If you’re looking for an affordable option to test out, this is the one. It’s just cheap feeling and I agree about the wrist rest . It doesn’t stay stationary and it’s hard plastic.
I agree 100%! Orbit Fusion and Expert wireless are currently my favourite mice. My first trackball was the Kensington Elite... another great mouse to start out with trackballs... more comfortable then the normal orbit, but no scroll ring unfortunately :( Thanks so much for your feedback and thank you for passing by ;)
I have both the Expert Wireless and the Orbit, and agree with your observations about them. The Orbit can't match the premium feel of the Expert but I too find the Expert's angle a bit too much, whereas the Orbit's ball sticks up too high. I wish there was a 'flatter' trackball, especially as I pair it with a Microsoft Ergonomic keyboard that is angled to have your wrist flat or downwards. As for scrolling, I guess you're testing them on a Mac. The Orbit works great there. On Windows, with its generally inferior scrolling experience, the Expert is far smoother than the Orbit.
@@zer0L0 GameBall is a bit flatter than my Orbit Fusion. I like it better unless my hands are sweaty, then the touch scrolling drives me crazy. If my hands are dry the touch scrolling is nice. I ended up using a GameBall at work and an Orbit Fusion at home.
I really hear you my friend :) Please feel free to watch my latest trackball review "ULTIMATE TRACKBALL COMPARISON pt3 - Fusion vs Expert" and I hope you'll find your answer there! The "Orbit Fusion" is currently my daily driver from some months now. I think it's currently the best bang for buck, and also a good compromise of ergonomics and compactness. I hope this helps and thanks for passing by ;)
@@AleSuggests yes I watch pt3 already. It was also helpful. I used to use the Logitech M570 RF for year, then the left mouse button began to double click for every one click. I repaired it several times but this last time (yesterday) I couldn't. The Orbit Fusion reminds me a bit of that. I decided to pull the trigger on the Slim Blade though. I hope it suits my work flow better than the rest. Again thank you. Love your videos!
@@lotdproduction I much respect people that squeeze their devices till the end of their life! 👏👏👏 Hopefully you'll be happy with your new Slimblade indeed. Bless
Do you know if there's any decent replacements for the Perixx 506's 25mm ball? I can't find replacements for anything outside of the 34mm and 55mm balls so far. Or do you know how non-standard balls would track well, such as various metal (chrome, stainless) or plastic (POM, PP, nylon, etc.) bearings as a replacement for the typical glitter/matte/pattern trackballs? I've had a peripheral design in mind for awhile, 34mm standard small trackballs are too large for what I'm looking to do, and mini trackballs are all $20 or higher, even for the cheaply made handheld ones.
Unfortunately, I cannot offer much help with this. If yours is an entirely new project (and not a replacement of the Perixx 506 ball), how about buying a vintage mouse from some second hand market? The Perixx 506 really felt like an upside-down vintage mouse to me. You should find those old mice even for free. If this is, instead, regarding a replacement of the 506, I would definitely get in touch with Perixx via mail. They are kind and fast repliers as far as I remember, and if they don't have replacements they may, at least, point you in the right direction. Good luck, and thanks for passing by ;)
You are right, but I am pretty sure I have turned off the acceleration and set the speed to the same minimum level before the test. Turbomouse is next in my radar ;)
@@AleSuggests I sorta think I tried working with a lot of these options and as a person in a lucky position (I wrote nine Photoshop books) I just asked manufacturers for products to review. For example, one day I came home and there was a $2500 scanner in my front porch. Another time Kodak (while they were still alive) sent me one of their earliest digital cameras (410? it was worth about $25,000). To me, the key with trackballs is directly related to the size of the ball. I honestly hate any of the solutions that have small balls (so to speak and as risque as that sounds). There were (and maybe are) companies that manufacture trackballs meant for gaming (essentially arcade games) and I've never tried those. I did try to propose to Kensington that they make something more ergonomic (fitting to a human hand). I just bought a Pro to use with a computer that was only twice the price of the input device. Once you use these, you learn to hate mice. One killer observation is that when my daughter was 2 or 3 she would come and sit on my lap when I was working in the morning and she took to the trackball like it was the most natural input on the planet. Even in her tiny hands she had no problem. One thing you did leave out was cleaning. I do NOT understand why Kensington has not just put a hole at the bottom of the Pro like they did with the lowprofile model (I never got used to it as your review points to my exact issues). In any case, that was a really useful review, I think. And my nitpicky comments come from using the danged things for 20+ years.
I use logitech M570 and the old Logitech Trackman Marble and those are so far very comfortable compared to these, though out of curiosity, I might try to buy one of these models.
I've never tried the Logitechs yet. Although, from the way they look they don't seem ergonomic friendly for my needs. The reason why I use trackballs, in first place, is to avoid keeping my hand curved and contracted for an extended time throughout the day. Therefore I'd want the ball of a trackball to be in the centre and the surface of the mouse to be rather large. In this way I usually don't feel any pain on my hand and wrist even after hours and hours of computer work. Thanks for passing by, btw ;)
@@AleSuggests I recommend you try the Logitech trackball mice, and see if you think their trackball models does not hit your checklist, especially convenience and proper placement of buttons to fingers and hand shape. It will be great to hear back from you again after trying. Since you have been a full time trackball mouse user, you are the best one to judge on the logitechs whether they are a pass or a fail according to your experience and standards.
I have the blue one and the buttons stopped working ass well and it fixed just spraying some contacts clean. Maybe you can change the switches for silent ones.
Yes I live in Scotland from many years now :) But my friends are all from different countries, so I guess the accent I developed is a mishmash of different things 😁 Thank you so much for passing by ;)
@@AleSuggests it's hilarious. In a charming way. Scottish/Italian turns out to be a great mix. I knew a Japanese guy who spoke English with a thick Japanese/Indian accent. He might have had a similarly incomprehensible combination if he'd lived in Wales.
Yes they are, check out this video in which I compare the Expert wired vs the Expert wireless: ua-cam.com/video/m3iJgkiZe1I/v-deo.html Thanks for passing by :)
I broke 2 left click on the orbit as well. Too bad cause the ball and the scroll wheel are perfect. Might buy the bigger model but I'm worried about a bigger ball being slower? Seems like the orbit has a perfect size. Thanks for the detailed review.
You're welcome ;) Some people manage to replace the broken click on the orbit. Although, the expert is a big step up from the orbit in my opinion, but unfortunately the DPI is not as good as the orbit (and the scroll ring too). I might try soon the Expert wireless version and review it, maybe this will be finally the ultimate mouse? :)
Thank you for the review. I must ask: does the springy button sound even matter with the Kensington Expert? Most people actuate buttons with their finger still resting on it rather than some sort of elevated tap, thus your resting finger acts as a dampener for the spring. I just don't see that even happening, and if it does...its only a sound. No keyboard or mouse is entirely silent so the only question is what you are hearing.
If you rest on the button after pressing it the sound will be dampened for sure... perhaps even entirely muted... but I'd say it would be unnatural to click the mouse that way considering how large the device is. The spring sound itself is not really a dealbreaker for me, just a weird noise a bit louder than it probably should. I agree, no keyboard/mouse is entirely silent, but I could think about a couple of environments in which this could be an issue. In a music recording studio for instance, or in a particularly quiet small office Once again, for me, not a problem, but I just thought I'd point that out in the video review just in case it's important for some. Thanks so much for passing by ;)
I have just got the expert version second hand but it never had the wrist mat, where can I get the exact same wrist mat from I cannot find them anywhere on the internet? Thank you 🙏
I guess the cushion pad may be really difficult to find. You could try to get in touch with Kensington, but I suppose a replacement part may be pricey. Did you take a look at this video of mine, in which I review this very good wrist pad for trackballs? ua-cam.com/video/GeUjGp3TWkg/v-deo.html Thank you for passing by :)
my daily driver right now is the Expert Mouse Wireless. While people complain about the loud scroll ring, i like the fact that it's noisy. Also, been trying to get back to using the wrist rest too.
I actually don't dislike the noise of the scroll ring either. It's just sometimes annoying that you may end up hitting the ball when scrolling, otherwise it's great! Thank you for your visit here btw ;)
HOw is your take on trackpad. Like Apple does. I used to use trackballs in the past, but finding the POINT, even it is very precise, it takes time. Trackpads are very easy and precise. Do you think trackballs are better then trackpads to avoid karpal tunnel development? Thakn you...
Very good point! I have never tried a dedicated big trackpad on a desktop computer (Apple style), but obviously I have tried several trackpads on laptops and few Wacom graphic tablets. I know what you mean in terms of speed and preciseness... everyone claims trackballs are the most precise, but I think trackpads beat them in every way... including speed. Although, when it comes to ergonomics, wrist and carpal pain... my take is that nothing beats a kensington expert (or even the cheap orbit elite, or logitech marble). Try to visualise how curved your hand would be on a trackpad and compare it to how relaxed and fully extended it would be on a kensington expert. Besides, on a kensington expert you would interact with the ball by using full hand movements, sometimes even a arm movement, therefore the actions are homogeneously distributed; with a trackpad, instead, it is just one or two fingers plus the wrist that do the whole job. To summarise, trackpads may be faster, more intuitive and precise... but if you need to do hours and hours of computer and you want to make sure you don't feel almost any pain at all.... a good trackball is what you are looking for. Obviously this is all very subjective and empirical, but I hope this helps. Thanks for passing by ;)
I love my Logitech Trackman, but I’m looking for a square design with a smaller trackball. The 506 looks like my choice. I’m doing design work, not gaming, so maybe it will Work better for me. Thank you for the comparison!
No problem. Make sure you consider the Perixx 706 as well. It's the same mouse, but wireless. Although, I have never personally tried it yet. Best of luck for your new trackball ;)
How do these compare to the thumb guys. Just got my logitech track man out after years with my music stuff. Found it doesn't work with my new macbook so wireless would be a plus. I might just have to get a dongle dock for that one on the right
Never personally tried the thumb trackballs yet. I believe the ball in the middle should (in theory) offer more comfort and less wrist pain. Regarding wireless solutions, check out the part 2 of this video where I check out the wireless Expert mouse ;) Good luck for you mouse hunt!
Thank you for this post!!! Expert user for YEARS here.. I use my oversized wallet as a wrist rest! XD. Considering how little money is in my wallet, it make sit a cheap wrist rest! XD. Thank again fro this video.. I needed the visual size difference between the sport and the orbit.
7:50 I think that this is not a meaningful test, since for each trackball you have to manually configure something in the software, and the data you are given seems like the default one. You could tune it easily.
I have deactivated the acceleration from the softwares, so I guess that only the speed would be different, which should not effect the DPI. Obviously it's not rocket science here and I could be wrong, but the video offers a personal usage experience of the same mice on the same computer, so that people can have a rough idea. Although, I agree with you that I should have mentioned in the video to take the test with a pinch of salt. Thank you for passing by ;)
I did not check out the Slimblade Pro, yet. However, as far as I know, the Pro can now be connected via Wireless dongle, Bluetooth, or USB C cable. While the older Slimblade had only its own wireless dingle, if I remember correctly. So the Pro would be more versatile. Everything else, looks very similar, but as I said I did not check out the Pro version personally, yet. I hope this helps, and thanks for passing by ;)
I wish they made an Expert at the size of the orbit but the same quality. USb-c cable that would charge it or use as a wired device. using an AAA button.
@@bookofb2098 I have a Kensington Orbit, and both buttons died twice already. Had to replace the switches myself. Unfortunately it's a expensive product, but with cheap components.
Would like to see Elecom Huge in this comparison and maybe a Logitech trackman. Good to see your insights about this. Seems the producers fail to pick best features from their product to crate one ultimate product plus a few smaller programable button on the side (for that money- commeone, should be a standard)
I've got a Logitech Trackman Marble recently, and I plan to compare it against some Kensingtons in an upcoming video. Regarding the Huge... it has been on my radar from some time, but I have recently got the Kensington Orbit Fusion now which is very similar (although smaller), so I don't know when and if I will ever get the Elcom... but you never know ;) Thanks so much for passing by ;)
@@AleSuggests I ordered the Trackman for my first trackball hoping it is gonna help with RSI. I use the middle click and scroll as much as other clicks. Using both buttons on kensington orbit to enter middle-click seems inconvenient and other ones are too expensive. Therefore I'll give Trackman a chance.
@@MyAmpWamp My first trackball ever (years and years ago) was the Kensington Orbite Elite. The concept is very similar to the Logitech Marble. I purchased it for my constant pain that I had when working on computers, and it did improve that significantly. Several trackballs later, I believe that the mouse that leave me without any pain whatsoever after hours and hours of computer work is the Kensington Expert (no matter if wired or wireless). This can be, sometimes, found for as little as 20 bucks (second hand), and it is definitely a steal if you can find it for so cheap. With every Kensington mice, you can program the buttons the way you want, so having the middle click on the Expert won't be an issue, and the scroll wheel is more than decent. For the time being, I am sure you will enjoy your Trackman. You may just feel happy with it for months, or years... or forever :) Good luck for your RSI, I know it sucks! Try, also, doing breaks. The pomodoro technique is a good trick, and it prevents you from messing up your eyes too. And maybe let us know how you are doing after some time? ;)
@@AleSuggests I have an almost 20 year old (!!) USB Trackman Wheel that I continue to rotate in use. This wired modle is long discontinued, but *used* they still go for $30 to $50 on ebay and amazon. Proof of how good they are is that they're still in demand. I wish Logitech would do the smart thing and bring them back rather than forcing its wireless successors with a dozen buttons on everyone. The Trackman having the trackball on the side allows a shape that supports a better wrist angle (vs the bad upward tilt of the Expert and the Orbit) and more precise handling with the thumb.
I have checked out Kensington's latest trackball in the "part 3" video. The mouse is called "Kensington Orbit Fusion" and its got a tilted ergonomic shape, you may wanna check it out: ua-cam.com/video/gzYiRZMjSeI/v-deo.htmlsi=c10kCslNVUmYKKjn
The slim blade looks like the least usable out of the bunch, nowjere to rest your hands and no wrist rest, perixx second worst and the middle two are tied but I think the expert wins but only because it's slightly better than the orbit. Still pondering elecom balls since they have really hand shaped mice afaik
I agree to all, apart from... the Expert wins by far when it comes to comfort (and I tried a few other trackballs since this video). It is bulky and heavy, and it is currently not even my daily driver any more, but when it comes to wrist pain and ease of use, the Expert remains king IMHO. If you are sensitive to pain, or you work on computers a lot, not needing a mobile mouse, and space on the desk is not an issue... you will appreciate what the Expert does. p.s. If price is a concern... I bought one of my Experts for 15 bucks, and it was like brand new. Thanks so much for passing by and good luck for your new TB ;)
@@AleSuggests thanks mate. I had an orbit years ago but the circuitry fried. You could feel a slight heat coming from the bottom after like 10 minutes and it didn't do anything. I'm hoping my orbit wireless with a vertical mouse can do me well.
The Kensington SlimBlade paired with a Kensington Ergosoft Wrist Rest blows the Expert out of the water ergonomically. The Expert's ball is too high, which causes wrist extension - think discomfort and eventually pain.
Kensington Expert Trackball wireless, version, had no odd spring-like noises. Perhaps manufacturer resolved it ? Model = m01497-m. EDIT: Statement above only 50% true. Left-side buttons are weird-noise free. Right-side buttons do have the weird noise. Still, as I use the right-side buttons less frequently I can live with this. Also, the noise does exist but once you are used to this device you cease to notice it.
Thanks for the info! I do agree that you can 100% live with it, it's just a detail. I thought I would mention it, though, in case some folks need silent operations. Thanks so much for passing by :)
I've got a Logitech Trackman Marble recently, and I will compare it soon with the Kensington Orbit Elite. If you have anything in particular you want me to cover, let me know... and thanks for passing by ;)
Hey there, thanks for passing by ;) I did try out the Microsoft Explorer trackball (discontinued) and it wasn't my think to be honest. That's a proof there about how personal input devices can be. I know many people love Microsoft trackballs
@@xAnAngelOfDeathx I am so interested in the Gameball, and with the mild RSI I developed, I have some good reason to consider it. The Kensington trackball I bought still has a place on my desk though.
@@thesecretgrimoireofturiel6040 I hope to hear that Gameball will be sold later this month, damn covid has caused production to be delayed up until now. Cheers and stay safe!
Good review. I personally can't stand these ambidextrous type trackballs. There are no ergonomic thoughts that goes into it except produce a universal layout model so hopefully left and right hand users will blindly buy them.
I am testing out my first non-ambidextrous TB mouse in this period (which I will review soon)... so far I believe that ambidextrous mice with big ball in the centre (like the expert) are quite comfortable and gets away with the ambidextrous feature without this being necessary a gimmick. Especially because the 4 big buttons fall exactly under the tip of your fingers no matter if you use the right or left hand, and are fully programmable. I guess ambidextrous will be convenient for mice producers, so that they only need to make one model, but in this case I don't think this is a downside for the user experience. I still need to try out a thumb trackball yet, but so far the expert mouse is really a joy to use in terms of ergonomics... This is all very personal of course.
What kind of trachballs do you like? I have an Elecom Deft pro which is right handed only but I recentley I also bough the Kensington slimblade and after a week of use I already decided the Kensington is gonna be my daily driver The Kensington is smoother, the Elecom mouse cluster feels cramped and the curvature of the Elecom doesn't match my hand. Recentley I played some games after work and I got cramps in my shoulder and elbow. I did not exepect to like the Kensington, but I needed something I could use both left and righ handed.
@@officialWWM As someone starting to look into the idea of trackballs, I've come across quite the range of right hand ergonomic ones, that I could never use, so the few Ambi ones are the only options I'd have
Ahahha you're right... I tried to fix that in the video pt.2 Although, in my defense, according to wikipedia when it comes to computer devices a minority refers to them as "mouses" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_mouse#:~:text=A computer mouse %28plural mice%2C rarely mouses%29 is,the graphical user interface of a computer . Thanks for passing by btw ;)
@@AleSuggests BTW I subscribed to your channel. I have a SlimBlade™ Trackball I got on Amazon last week and I love it. I had an original Kensington Expert Trackball like 20 years ago and decided to get another when I was shopping for a mouse.
@@DonnyMusto Thanks very much! Did you have the old school expert? the one I'm referring to had 6 extra buttons on the top. I never tried that one... yet! Enjoy your new SlimBlade and thanks a lot for passing by ;)
@@AleSuggests I agree, but I can't really see myself wiggle my middle finger on the ball and click with the neighbouring fingers. The trackball also being smaller it sounds like a big challenge when it comes to accuracy when dealing with small details on a high res display.
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For the spring sound of the Expert you could open it up and apply keyboard lube to the problem springs. Should work help whether they’re leaf springs or coil springs. Use the thickest grease you can.
I have Kensington Expert for a while now. I actually carved it into my desk. Fully flat. Works like charm. :)
I don't think this would work for me... but damn, that's cool!
I am struggling deciding which trackball to buy. This was a really helpful video. Thank you!
Best of luck for your decision, and thanks a lot for passing by ;)
nice review. Been using the Expert for a few years and love it. Have you tried putting anything under it to lift up the one end to adjust the angle? Little piece of cardboard or something might make a huge difference for you.
Thanks! Nope, I never tried raising the bottom of the Expert, yet. Although, I am now currently rocking the Kensington Orbit Fusion as my new daily driver (which I compared with the Expert in another video). The problem with placing anything underneath a mouse is that the mouse may be soon slide off or wobble, especially with soft deteriorating materials like cardboards... if I only had a 3d printer that would be different.
Thanks for passing by ;)
You can buy felt slider if it should slide or rubber „half-balls“ for non-slide to stick under anything.
I just got the expert one, and its great. The position of my hand, is like if I were using a vertical mouse. My first day and its great,
thank you for this video, I'm amazed that no one shoots out the expert and the slimblade, those are the two I'm working on deciding on
I'm glad it was useful! Thank you so much for passing by ;)
@@AleSuggests I ended up going with the Expert wired, it should be here tomorrow!
@@vitalepitts Great choice! I have never tried a more comfortable mouse in my life! I wish you to be happy with it! ;)
Well done and I especially liked your detailed information about the pros and cons in terms of the different aspects.
Thank you so much!!! 😊
Thanks for this review. I bought expert couple days ago, before than I saw the video. And it looks like I made god choise. One thing that upset me that the I can assign functions for pressing the top two buttons at the same time, and do the same with bottom buttons, but there is no way assign actions for pressin the left 2 buttons and right. Moreover clicking top left and bottom right buttons and vise verse is possible as well. So we would can have 4 additional programming actions, but we have not it
I'm glad you are happy with your mouse! I think you, indeed, made a great choice!
If I was you, I would fire an email to Kensington with your button combo suggestion. I don't think it would take them that long to add this in a future software update.
In the meantime, I guess you could achieve what you want fairly easily with the free software Auto Hot Key?
I hope this helps, and thanks so much for passing by 😉
@@AleSuggests I have never heard about auto hot key. Thanks 😊
@@zar_and4574 Oh, I'm sure you are gonna love it then 😉
Just what I needed was about to order my first trackball due to ligament type pain in arm
Yup, that's how the whole trackball journey started for me... wrist pain similar to carpal tunnel syndrome after hours and hours of computer. Hopefully you'll work better with your new TB... and consider that when it comes to pain and posture... the Expert wins hands down (in my honest opinion).
Thanks for passing by ;)
I didn’t like the tilt of the Kensington Expert either. I almost want to turn it back to front, or build a little wedge to raise the palmrest end.
Also good criticism about moving the ball while scrolling.
I do agree about the tilt, although, my take is that Kensington may have had no choice in this case.
The Expert ball is huge, and this, unfortunately, means that the mouse needs a significantly thick case. The alternative would be (as you suggested) to have the thicker part on the front and a leaner back, which may be more ergonomic... but the caveat, in this case, would be that unless the user would balance the keyboard height, one shoulder is now sensibly higher than the other, which isn't good.
The other way around for Kensington would have been to create a flat case and have the ball sticking out, as they did with the Slimball... but that means that sometimes you are hunting for the buttons... whether the Expert's buttons are almost impossible to miss (or at least 3 out of 4 are).
Personally, I feel like the compromises that Kensington has done with the Expert are good enough, but I understand this will differ from hand to hand.
Thank you so much for passing by ;)
@@AleSuggests They’re probably ok with the sales and praise it continues to get too. It seems to work for a lot of people.
Been using the Expert for years, never want anything else. Cured my developing wrist pain too. Pair it with the small Kensington gel wrist rest instead of the stock one.
Thank you so much for sharing the vast experience with the t.ball mice.
My pleasure :)
Great video, and thanks for replying to our comments! I'm c5/6 quadriplegic (arm function, but no finger function) and I've used the Kensington Expert for 30+ years in my job (software engineer) and at home. At home I use several ThinkPads (T430 to T470). One of my T470's has a problem (once or twice a week) where the trackball stops working, and I have to reboot the laptop (or maybe replug the mouse, but that's too hard for me). Have you ever seen this problem (I saw that you have a T470 too)? I would like to find a better solution than rebooting. Also, I'm embarrassed to say I've never programmed specific functions on the mouse. I would love to have a click-drag function, so I don't have to click the keyboard while rolling the ball. Can you tell me how to program that, or point me to a help page please? I'm thinking it could be a click of the top-right mouse button to set click-drag mode, since I don't currently use the top right button.
Hey thanks man :)
So, I no longer have the T470, nor the Expert. But, my setup is somehow similar, as I use a Kensington Orbit Fusion (one of their newer trackball mouse), and a Lenovo Thinkpad X380.
Regarding the trackball that stops working... is it wired or wireless? If it's wired try to use a different USB port on your laptop and see if it's more stable, if it is wireless try to change the batteries (if you use rechargeables, mind that my mouse does not like them and I need to use normal alkaline).
To program the mouse, you'll need to go to the Kensington's website and download their dedicated software called "KensingtonWorks". Once you have installed it, it's really straightforward to program anything you like... you'll see! But if for whatever reason, you have some difficulties, just hit me up in the comments, and I'll see what I can do to help you out ;)
The Kensington software may even improve your mouse stability, and you may solve both issues with one stone.
Here's the link to the download page of the software: www.kensington.com/software/kensingtonworks/
I hope this is all helpful and let me know how you do.
Thanks for passing by ;)
Ale
best review on youtube! thank you
I found out that to scroll with the SlimBlade, it is better to use the index finger to hold in place the rotational axis while using the middle (and optionally your thumb) finger to actually rotate the ball. With enough practice, the cursor movement becomes minimum.
It would be also nice if you could add the classic Logitec Trackman Marble to the mix. I use both the Slimblade and the Marble, and I think this last one is quit good, only if it had some kind of proper scrolling and bigger ball would be the winner.
That makes actually sense. I never used the Slimblade in that way. Thanks!
I will certainly try to do a comparison video with the Logitech Marble too as soon as I can, as this have been asked a lot by others as well ;)
Thanks so much for passing by!
The expert is superior to these IMO. The construction, weight of the ball, surface coverage of hand etc. I also use the Orbit Fushion on the go. I will say, the normal Orbit here was my introduction to Trackballs. If you’re looking for an affordable option to test out, this is the one. It’s just cheap feeling and I agree about the wrist rest . It doesn’t stay stationary and it’s hard plastic.
I agree 100%! Orbit Fusion and Expert wireless are currently my favourite mice. My first trackball was the Kensington Elite... another great mouse to start out with trackballs... more comfortable then the normal orbit, but no scroll ring unfortunately :(
Thanks so much for your feedback and thank you for passing by ;)
I have both the Expert Wireless and the Orbit, and agree with your observations about them. The Orbit can't match the premium feel of the Expert but I too find the Expert's angle a bit too much, whereas the Orbit's ball sticks up too high. I wish there was a 'flatter' trackball, especially as I pair it with a Microsoft Ergonomic keyboard that is angled to have your wrist flat or downwards. As for scrolling, I guess you're testing them on a Mac. The Orbit works great there. On Windows, with its generally inferior scrolling experience, the Expert is far smoother than the Orbit.
@@zer0L0 GameBall is a bit flatter than my Orbit Fusion. I like it better unless my hands are sweaty, then the touch scrolling drives me crazy. If my hands are dry the touch scrolling is nice. I ended up using a GameBall at work and an Orbit Fusion at home.
This was a really helpful video. Unfortunately I'm more confused now than before. If only a hybrid of all the Kensingtons existed.
I really hear you my friend :) Please feel free to watch my latest trackball review "ULTIMATE TRACKBALL COMPARISON pt3 - Fusion vs Expert" and I hope you'll find your answer there! The "Orbit Fusion" is currently my daily driver from some months now. I think it's currently the best bang for buck, and also a good compromise of ergonomics and compactness. I hope this helps and thanks for passing by ;)
@@AleSuggests yes I watch pt3 already. It was also helpful. I used to use the Logitech M570 RF for year, then the left mouse button began to double click for every one click. I repaired it several times but this last time (yesterday) I couldn't. The Orbit Fusion reminds me a bit of that. I decided to pull the trigger on the Slim Blade though. I hope it suits my work flow better than the rest. Again thank you. Love your videos!
@@lotdproduction I much respect people that squeeze their devices till the end of their life! 👏👏👏 Hopefully you'll be happy with your new Slimblade indeed. Bless
place your palm lower to control the kensington trackball than everything will fits perfectly
Do you know if there's any decent replacements for the Perixx 506's 25mm ball? I can't find replacements for anything outside of the 34mm and 55mm balls so far. Or do you know how non-standard balls would track well, such as various metal (chrome, stainless) or plastic (POM, PP, nylon, etc.) bearings as a replacement for the typical glitter/matte/pattern trackballs? I've had a peripheral design in mind for awhile, 34mm standard small trackballs are too large for what I'm looking to do, and mini trackballs are all $20 or higher, even for the cheaply made handheld ones.
Unfortunately, I cannot offer much help with this.
If yours is an entirely new project (and not a replacement of the Perixx 506 ball), how about buying a vintage mouse from some second hand market? The Perixx 506 really felt like an upside-down vintage mouse to me. You should find those old mice even for free.
If this is, instead, regarding a replacement of the 506, I would definitely get in touch with Perixx via mail. They are kind and fast repliers as far as I remember, and if they don't have replacements they may, at least, point you in the right direction.
Good luck, and thanks for passing by ;)
The dpi test is off because you can easily change the settings on the Kensington for speed and acceleration. I only use the expert/turbomouse.
You are right, but I am pretty sure I have turned off the acceleration and set the speed to the same minimum level before the test.
Turbomouse is next in my radar ;)
@@AleSuggests I sorta think I tried working with a lot of these options and as a person in a lucky position (I wrote nine Photoshop books) I just asked manufacturers for products to review. For example, one day I came home and there was a $2500 scanner in my front porch. Another time Kodak (while they were still alive) sent me one of their earliest digital cameras (410? it was worth about $25,000). To me, the key with trackballs is directly related to the size of the ball. I honestly hate any of the solutions that have small balls (so to speak and as risque as that sounds). There were (and maybe are) companies that manufacture trackballs meant for gaming (essentially arcade games) and I've never tried those. I did try to propose to Kensington that they make something more ergonomic (fitting to a human hand). I just bought a Pro to use with a computer that was only twice the price of the input device. Once you use these, you learn to hate mice. One killer observation is that when my daughter was 2 or 3 she would come and sit on my lap when I was working in the morning and she took to the trackball like it was the most natural input on the planet. Even in her tiny hands she had no problem.
One thing you did leave out was cleaning. I do NOT understand why Kensington has not just put a hole at the bottom of the Pro like they did with the lowprofile model (I never got used to it as your review points to my exact issues).
In any case, that was a really useful review, I think. And my nitpicky comments come from using the danged things for 20+ years.
I use logitech M570 and the old Logitech Trackman Marble and those are so far very comfortable compared to these, though out of curiosity, I might try to buy one of these models.
I've never tried the Logitechs yet. Although, from the way they look they don't seem ergonomic friendly for my needs. The reason why I use trackballs, in first place, is to avoid keeping my hand curved and contracted for an extended time throughout the day. Therefore I'd want the ball of a trackball to be in the centre and the surface of the mouse to be rather large. In this way I usually don't feel any pain on my hand and wrist even after hours and hours of computer work. Thanks for passing by, btw ;)
@@AleSuggests I recommend you try the Logitech trackball mice, and see if you think their trackball models does not hit your checklist, especially convenience and proper placement of buttons to fingers and hand shape. It will be great to hear back from you again after trying. Since you have been a full time trackball mouse user, you are the best one to judge on the logitechs whether they are a pass or a fail according to your experience and standards.
I use the logitech M570 as well. I enjoy it too.
I have the blue one and the buttons stopped working ass well and it fixed just spraying some contacts clean. Maybe you can change the switches for silent ones.
Interesting! I still have that mouse around. I'll try spraying it, then.
Thank you for the tip ;)
Thanks for this video. I'm searching for my first trackball so this is hugely helpful.
No problems and best of luck for your first trackball mouse!
I suggest going with either the ELECOM Huge or the ELECOM Deft Pro
Thanks for your advise. Really usefull!
how s about logitech mx ergo?
I have one unrelated question.. Where in the UK are you living or have you lived? The accent you have picked up sounds... Scottish almost to my ears
Yes I live in Scotland from many years now :)
But my friends are all from different countries, so I guess the accent I developed is a mishmash of different things 😁
Thank you so much for passing by ;)
@@AleSuggests it's hilarious. In a charming way. Scottish/Italian turns out to be a great mix. I knew a Japanese guy who spoke English with a thick Japanese/Indian accent. He might have had a similarly incomprehensible combination if he'd lived in Wales.
Are the wireless not recommended?
Yes they are, check out this video in which I compare the Expert wired vs the Expert wireless: ua-cam.com/video/m3iJgkiZe1I/v-deo.html
Thanks for passing by :)
I broke 2 left click on the orbit as well. Too bad cause the ball and the scroll wheel are perfect. Might buy the bigger model but I'm worried about a bigger ball being slower? Seems like the orbit has a perfect size. Thanks for the detailed review.
You're welcome ;)
Some people manage to replace the broken click on the orbit. Although, the expert is a big step up from the orbit in my opinion, but unfortunately the DPI is not as good as the orbit (and the scroll ring too). I might try soon the Expert wireless version and review it, maybe this will be finally the ultimate mouse? :)
Try to buy some replacement mouse clicker switches, and replace them yourself, it´s not that hard.
Thank you for the review. I must ask: does the springy button sound even matter with the Kensington Expert? Most people actuate buttons with their finger still resting on it rather than some sort of elevated tap, thus your resting finger acts as a dampener for the spring. I just don't see that even happening, and if it does...its only a sound. No keyboard or mouse is entirely silent so the only question is what you are hearing.
If you rest on the button after pressing it the sound will be dampened for sure... perhaps even entirely muted... but I'd say it would be unnatural to click the mouse that way considering how large the device is.
The spring sound itself is not really a dealbreaker for me, just a weird noise a bit louder than it probably should.
I agree, no keyboard/mouse is entirely silent, but I could think about a couple of environments in which this could be an issue. In a music recording studio for instance, or in a particularly quiet small office
Once again, for me, not a problem, but I just thought I'd point that out in the video review just in case it's important for some.
Thanks so much for passing by ;)
I want a hybrid...expert with a slim scrolling
I have just got the expert version second hand but it never had the wrist mat, where can I get the exact same wrist mat from I cannot find them anywhere on the internet? Thank you 🙏
I guess the cushion pad may be really difficult to find. You could try to get in touch with Kensington, but I suppose a replacement part may be pricey.
Did you take a look at this video of mine, in which I review this very good wrist pad for trackballs?
ua-cam.com/video/GeUjGp3TWkg/v-deo.html
Thank you for passing by :)
my daily driver right now is the Expert Mouse Wireless. While people complain about the loud scroll ring, i like the fact that it's noisy. Also, been trying to get back to using the wrist rest too.
I actually don't dislike the noise of the scroll ring either. It's just sometimes annoying that you may end up hitting the ball when scrolling, otherwise it's great! Thank you for your visit here btw ;)
@@AleSuggests you're so welcome!
HOw is your take on trackpad. Like Apple does. I used to use trackballs in the past, but finding the POINT, even it is very precise, it takes time. Trackpads are very easy and precise. Do you think trackballs are better then trackpads to avoid karpal tunnel development? Thakn you...
Very good point! I have never tried a dedicated big trackpad on a desktop computer (Apple style), but obviously I have tried several trackpads on laptops and few Wacom graphic tablets. I know what you mean in terms of speed and preciseness... everyone claims trackballs are the most precise, but I think trackpads beat them in every way... including speed. Although, when it comes to ergonomics, wrist and carpal pain... my take is that nothing beats a kensington expert (or even the cheap orbit elite, or logitech marble). Try to visualise how curved your hand would be on a trackpad and compare it to how relaxed and fully extended it would be on a kensington expert. Besides, on a kensington expert you would interact with the ball by using full hand movements, sometimes even a arm movement, therefore the actions are homogeneously distributed; with a trackpad, instead, it is just one or two fingers plus the wrist that do the whole job. To summarise, trackpads may be faster, more intuitive and precise... but if you need to do hours and hours of computer and you want to make sure you don't feel almost any pain at all.... a good trackball is what you are looking for. Obviously this is all very subjective and empirical, but I hope this helps. Thanks for passing by ;)
@@AleSuggests Thank you for your time and feedback on my Q. Apprciated.
I love my Logitech Trackman, but I’m looking for a square design with a smaller trackball. The 506 looks like my choice. I’m doing design work, not gaming, so maybe it will
Work better for me. Thank you for the comparison!
No problem. Make sure you consider the Perixx 706 as well. It's the same mouse, but wireless. Although, I have never personally tried it yet. Best of luck for your new trackball ;)
I just ordered the wireless version for design and other general office work. Should come tomorrow. Will let you know how it goes!
If you could actually post a comment/review about it under this video it'd be great, so other people can make their mind too ;) Thanks
How do these compare to the thumb guys. Just got my logitech track man out after years with my music stuff. Found it doesn't work with my new macbook so wireless would be a plus. I might just have to get a dongle dock for that one on the right
Never personally tried the thumb trackballs yet. I believe the ball in the middle should (in theory) offer more comfort and less wrist pain. Regarding wireless solutions, check out the part 2 of this video where I check out the wireless Expert mouse ;)
Good luck for you mouse hunt!
You are a legend, thank you!!
Thank you 😊
Thank you for this post!!! Expert user for YEARS here.. I use my oversized wallet as a wrist rest! XD. Considering how little money is in my wallet, it make sit a cheap wrist rest! XD. Thank again fro this video.. I needed the visual size difference between the sport and the orbit.
ahahah nice one :)
You are very welcome and thanks so much for passing by ;)
7:50 I think that this is not a meaningful test, since for each trackball you have to manually configure something in the software, and the data you are given seems like the default one. You could tune it easily.
I have deactivated the acceleration from the softwares, so I guess that only the speed would be different, which should not effect the DPI. Obviously it's not rocket science here and I could be wrong, but the video offers a personal usage experience of the same mice on the same computer, so that people can have a rough idea. Although, I agree with you that I should have mentioned in the video to take the test with a pinch of salt.
Thank you for passing by ;)
is there any difference between slimblade and slimblade pro ? cannot find a pro in my country stores (Romania)
I did not check out the Slimblade Pro, yet. However, as far as I know, the Pro can now be connected via Wireless dongle, Bluetooth, or USB C cable. While the older Slimblade had only its own wireless dingle, if I remember correctly. So the Pro would be more versatile. Everything else, looks very similar, but as I said I did not check out the Pro version personally, yet. I hope this helps, and thanks for passing by ;)
@@AleSuggests thank you , your answer helped me , but , still , the product is not avalaible here :(( .
great review and comparison, thank u!
Thanks. Glad you liked it :)
I was SO wondering what those rings around the ball were. :-O thank you dude! ^^
ehehe... yeah, the rings look weird at first glance :)
You welcome and thanks for passing by ;)
Very good thanks mate always good to know your opinion. Will make me think well what I need.
Pleasure. Thanks for passing by and best of luck for your choice.
I wish they made an Expert at the size of the orbit but the same quality. USb-c cable that would charge it or use as a wired device. using an AAA button.
Take a look at my Kensington Orbit Fusion review... they went close!
i had a dead button on slimblade too. didn't find a replacement switch and ended up recycled.
Yeah the Slimblade's buttons didn't feel like the sturdiest buttons ever made to me. Sorry to hear about your mouse btw
@@AleSuggests they looked like standard momentary push tactile switches with long stem. Didn't seem built to last.
@@bookofb2098 I have a Kensington Orbit, and both buttons died twice already. Had to replace the switches myself. Unfortunately it's a expensive product, but with cheap components.
@@_eltoncezar_ I was afraid someone might say that. Sorry to hear about your experience and thanks for sharing.
Thanks for your reviews!!!
You're very welcome :)
Would like to see Elecom Huge in this comparison and maybe a Logitech trackman. Good to see your insights about this. Seems the producers fail to pick best features from their product to crate one ultimate product plus a few smaller programable button on the side (for that money- commeone, should be a standard)
I've got a Logitech Trackman Marble recently, and I plan to compare it against some Kensingtons in an upcoming video. Regarding the Huge... it has been on my radar from some time, but I have recently got the Kensington Orbit Fusion now which is very similar (although smaller), so I don't know when and if I will ever get the Elcom... but you never know ;)
Thanks so much for passing by ;)
@@AleSuggests I ordered the Trackman for my first trackball hoping it is gonna help with RSI. I use the middle click and scroll as much as other clicks. Using both buttons on kensington orbit to enter middle-click seems inconvenient and other ones are too expensive. Therefore I'll give Trackman a chance.
@@MyAmpWamp My first trackball ever (years and years ago) was the Kensington Orbite Elite. The concept is very similar to the Logitech Marble. I purchased it for my constant pain that I had when working on computers, and it did improve that significantly. Several trackballs later, I believe that the mouse that leave me without any pain whatsoever after hours and hours of computer work is the Kensington Expert (no matter if wired or wireless). This can be, sometimes, found for as little as 20 bucks (second hand), and it is definitely a steal if you can find it for so cheap. With every Kensington mice, you can program the buttons the way you want, so having the middle click on the Expert won't be an issue, and the scroll wheel is more than decent.
For the time being, I am sure you will enjoy your Trackman. You may just feel happy with it for months, or years... or forever :) Good luck for your RSI, I know it sucks! Try, also, doing breaks. The pomodoro technique is a good trick, and it prevents you from messing up your eyes too. And maybe let us know how you are doing after some time? ;)
@@AleSuggests I have an almost 20 year old (!!) USB Trackman Wheel that I continue to rotate in use. This wired modle is long discontinued, but *used* they still go for $30 to $50 on ebay and amazon. Proof of how good they are is that they're still in demand. I wish Logitech would do the smart thing and bring them back rather than forcing its wireless successors with a dozen buttons on everyone. The Trackman having the trackball on the side allows a shape that supports a better wrist angle (vs the bad upward tilt of the Expert and the Orbit) and more precise handling with the thumb.
You really were operating the slimblade way too high, no wonder you were uncomfortable. The top buttons are just secondary and barely need to be used.
you have big balls my friend.. thumbsup
Ahahha thank you... I guess? :)
thank you for this! i was gonna buy orbit but i decided to buy expert instead after watching this.
News flash: resting your wrist on a pad IS bad ergonomics anyway.
You can remove the clicky parts of the scroll wheel from the expert.
How?
ua-cam.com/video/CEnr8g2UUZQ/v-deo.html
Interesting. Thank you!
how about compare with verical mouse? or contour uni-mouse?
I have checked out Kensington's latest trackball in the "part 3" video. The mouse is called "Kensington Orbit Fusion" and its got a tilted ergonomic shape, you may wanna check it out: ua-cam.com/video/gzYiRZMjSeI/v-deo.htmlsi=c10kCslNVUmYKKjn
Great Review!
Thank you ;)
the kensingtons look retrofuturistic like some 1980s cyberpunk shit.
you should put in your description the names from left to right in order
Done now! Thanks for the tip ;)
Great review, thank you.
Thank you for passing by :)
The slim blade looks like the least usable out of the bunch, nowjere to rest your hands and no wrist rest, perixx second worst and the middle two are tied but I think the expert wins but only because it's slightly better than the orbit.
Still pondering elecom balls since they have really hand shaped mice afaik
I agree to all, apart from... the Expert wins by far when it comes to comfort (and I tried a few other trackballs since this video).
It is bulky and heavy, and it is currently not even my daily driver any more, but when it comes to wrist pain and ease of use, the Expert remains king IMHO.
If you are sensitive to pain, or you work on computers a lot, not needing a mobile mouse, and space on the desk is not an issue... you will appreciate what the Expert does.
p.s. If price is a concern... I bought one of my Experts for 15 bucks, and it was like brand new.
Thanks so much for passing by and good luck for your new TB ;)
@@AleSuggests thanks mate. I had an orbit years ago but the circuitry fried. You could feel a slight heat coming from the bottom after like 10 minutes and it didn't do anything.
I'm hoping my orbit wireless with a vertical mouse can do me well.
The Kensington SlimBlade paired with a Kensington Ergosoft Wrist Rest blows the Expert out of the water ergonomically. The Expert's ball is too high, which causes wrist extension - think discomfort and eventually pain.
@@AleSuggests where did you find one that cheap? I'm getting desperate
@@AleSuggests is your daily driver now an Orbit Fusion? Should also give the GameBall a try, it's a weirdly good match to my Kensington Orbit Fusion.
Great job!
Thank you :)
What model is your mobile?
The phone?
thx for thiq review. Love this product.
Glad you found it useful. Thanks so much for passing by ;)
Thanks for this video
Pleasure ;)
Kensington Expert Trackball wireless, version, had no odd spring-like noises. Perhaps manufacturer resolved it ? Model = m01497-m.
EDIT: Statement above only 50% true. Left-side buttons are weird-noise free. Right-side buttons do have the weird noise. Still, as I use the right-side buttons less frequently I can live with this. Also, the noise does exist but once you are used to this device you cease to notice it.
Thanks for the info! I do agree that you can 100% live with it, it's just a detail. I thought I would mention it, though, in case some folks need silent operations. Thanks so much for passing by :)
awesome comparison!
Thank you very much Wider Campos
you track the trackman yet?
I've got a Logitech Trackman Marble recently, and I will compare it soon with the Kensington Orbit Elite. If you have anything in particular you want me to cover, let me know... and thanks for passing by ;)
Very helpful. Thanks
Glad if it was helpful :)
Thanks for passing by!
Thank you!
Pleasure :)
still using my microsoft intellipoint trackball so I can use my thumb. Great product that microsoft discontinued.
Hey there, thanks for passing by ;)
I did try out the Microsoft Explorer trackball (discontinued) and it wasn't my think to be honest. That's a proof there about how personal input devices can be. I know many people love Microsoft trackballs
Thank you.
My pleasure ;)
TLDR: They all have their own set of pros and cons. You will have to make a sacrifice no matter which route you go.
I agree unfortunately. I hope one day someone will make the perfect TB mouse though
Not any more with the new Gameball trackball, it has everything and very high quality components.
@@xAnAngelOfDeathx I am so interested in the Gameball, and with the mild RSI I developed, I have some good reason to consider it. The Kensington trackball I bought still has a place on my desk though.
@@thesecretgrimoireofturiel6040 I hope to hear that Gameball will be sold later this month, damn covid has caused production to be delayed up until now. Cheers and stay safe!
top review
Thank you :)
and you know what they say about medium to large hands...
😂😂😂
Medium to large gloves?
Good review. I personally can't stand these ambidextrous type trackballs. There are no ergonomic thoughts that goes into it except produce a universal layout model so hopefully left and right hand users will blindly buy them.
I am testing out my first non-ambidextrous TB mouse in this period (which I will review soon)... so far I believe that ambidextrous mice with big ball in the centre (like the expert) are quite comfortable and gets away with the ambidextrous feature without this being necessary a gimmick. Especially because the 4 big buttons fall exactly under the tip of your fingers no matter if you use the right or left hand, and are fully programmable. I guess ambidextrous will be convenient for mice producers, so that they only need to make one model, but in this case I don't think this is a downside for the user experience. I still need to try out a thumb trackball yet, but so far the expert mouse is really a joy to use in terms of ergonomics... This is all very personal of course.
What kind of trachballs do you like?
I have an Elecom Deft pro which is right handed only but I recentley I also bough the Kensington slimblade and after a week of use I already decided the Kensington is gonna be my daily driver The Kensington is smoother, the Elecom mouse cluster feels cramped and the curvature of the Elecom doesn't match my hand.
Recentley I played some games after work and I got cramps in my shoulder and elbow. I did not exepect to like the Kensington, but I needed something I could use both left and righ handed.
As a lefty, I love them!
@@officialWWM As someone starting to look into the idea of trackballs, I've come across quite the range of right hand ergonomic ones, that I could never use, so the few Ambi ones are the only options I'd have
"they come from the future" in fact they come from 1947 lol
Very good point actually!
Track moose 😂😂
"track bulls" I love this dude 😂😂😂
My uncle's a hunter, he has to do that a lot.
Don’t mean to be rude, but it’s “mice”, not “mouses”😉
Ahahha you're right... I tried to fix that in the video pt.2
Although, in my defense, according to wikipedia when it comes to computer devices a minority refers to them as "mouses"
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_mouse#:~:text=A computer mouse %28plural mice%2C rarely mouses%29 is,the graphical user interface of a computer .
Thanks for passing by btw ;)
Either is fine. We're not talking about the rodent, where the plural *is* mice. :P
who wants a second hand mouse after someone's sweaty hands have been all over it.
It's safe pal! I usually use it with second hand gloves
@@AleSuggests BTW I subscribed to your channel. I have a SlimBlade™ Trackball I got on Amazon last week and I love it. I had an original Kensington Expert Trackball like 20 years ago and decided to get another when I was shopping for a mouse.
@@DonnyMusto Thanks very much! Did you have the old school expert? the one I'm referring to had 6 extra buttons on the top. I never tried that one... yet! Enjoy your new SlimBlade and thanks a lot for passing by ;)
@@AleSuggests No I think it was the Expert Mouse 4.0. I see eBay has one of those six button for sale at $39.00.
that perixx is just pitiful. the ball is so damn tiny
yeah, it's not ideal tbh, in my opinion.
your weird accent is really cute
ahahah thank you... I guess? :)
That Perixx looks horrible lol.
It's definitely original though :)
@@AleSuggests I agree, but I can't really see myself wiggle my middle finger on the ball and click with the neighbouring fingers. The trackball also being smaller it sounds like a big challenge when it comes to accuracy when dealing with small details on a high res display.
The plural of mouse is mice.
The rodents are always mice. However, the computer ones can also be mouses... But "mice" sounds much better, I do agree. Thanks for passing by ;)
Thank you so much for this review!
You are very welcome :)