MM DD YYYY was originally British, like the Imperial System. Back when it would take months to ship goods across the ocean the Month it should arrive on was more important than the day. And like with the Metric System, when the rest of the world found a more efficient system America didn't feel like updating.
I would say something here but I already know where this debate will go. However I will measure my window in inches for my new air conditioner simply to infuriate non-Americans on the internet
@@atomheart7907 By all means you do you. If you live in the US, go ahead and use imperial system; but, once you're outside, don't expect people to conform to your system. Easy. Edit: fixed grammar and punctuation.
The sad thing is America DID try to update. One of the presidents decided to update to metric but then nearly immediately reverted that decision upon encountering a km/h road sign and not understanding it.
@@mono8476 I don’t know where you heard this, but you’re wrong😂😂 about 70% of Americans travel internationally. We just don’t have to travel outside of the country to experience new places, we just need to travel to the other side of the country (or state) but just because we don’t need to, doesn’t mean we don’t.
You want stupid units, here's one: a pound of most substances is about 21.5% heavier than a pound of gold, because "gold" has its own specific notion of a pound.
Reusing unit names is bad enough, but reusing the name and the characteristic that's being measured for a different unit? That's on an extra special level of stupid.
As someone who works with cars, I've gotten used to using metric sized tools instead of standard. It's easier on the brain to go from 8mm to 10mm than 3/4" to 13/16"
I remember watching a video of a guy trying to justify imperial, and the reason he gave was that imperial measurement tables cannot be smoothly transitioned to metric, which is hilarious (basically, saying something like 3foot doesn't give a whole metric value, instead having a long string of ugly decimals)
Little extra note on the cooking thing: if you're writing a recipe, and in your ingredients you list: "A stick of butter", think about your life for a second and realise that butter is sold in all sorts of sizes and quatities worldwide.
Which is also why we should use volumetric measurements when it comes to culinary related things. A pinch of salt. Just how big of a pinch is that? How many fingers did you use? Is it kosher or fine table salt? An egg. How small is the egg?
exact accuracy is usually not too big of an issue for cooking. a pinch of salt has room for variance just depending on how salty you prefer your food, a slightly larger egg wont really affect your final dish. the main issue is with baking, where exact measures are much more important for science and chemistry reasons, which is why most bakers recommend weighing things out
@@xuapril32 I agree, I was mostly irritated at american baking recipes that call for a stick of butter, but honestly the discrepancy between what a "tablespoon" is exactly is a lot more annoying, again mostly in baking. Probably that's more a problem for me personally as an aussie, for some reason our tablespoon is 33% bigger than everywhere else.
In that way I vastly prefer recipies that just give up and just go x units. 2 units of this .1 units of that 220 units of whatever. What is that unit? You decide based on how much you want the results to be.
@@Whitewingdevil 1 stick of butter in America is always the same which is 1/4lb or like 110g For me the confusing part was “1 cup” also it’s annoying having to have all this kitchen measuring utensils when I can just have a scale
As an American I whole heartedly agree about date formatting, that’s why whenever I have to write a date, if I get the option, I use the 3 letter month (e.g Nov 11, 20xx) that way it’s entirely unambiguous. I much prefer YYMMDD though because it makes sorting documents so much easier.
With the exception of "4th of July" most people who give a date in the US do say the month first. Example: "when is the wedding?" "Its December 7th." I dont know of anyone who would say "7th of December." I'm curious if that way of talking is more common in the UK or other countries.
@@DanielPereira-ey9nt Yeah that's a major annoyance as well. Especially when international companies announce stuff and they write PST and EST but not UTC. Americans probably know the difference between their own time zones but everyone else has to look it up. Just write it in UTC time and everyone can remember how much they're going to have to add to that.
Just use UTC. UTC was created separate from what we previously had a GMT to remove any confusing. Then you see online you see PST, PDT, EST. How the heck am I supposed to know that if I'm not from that country being America.
I'm studying engineering and in my country we use the metric system for everything. For a project I had to base it on a text book from america that only had the imperial system. Without exagerating, I wasted more time converting units back and forth to make the calculations than I spent in the rest of the project.
As a chemical engineering student life would be much easier without it, but no we were told to learn about it so that in the slightest chance we work with Americans or Brits we can utilize it. The time I take converting those units could've been used to understand the problem more.
Pound and Pound Force is such a stupid idea because most people will ignore the second word and be confused when they randomly switch from talking about force to talking about weight
As an American, I can state a few things: 1: If it is a HARD science (chemistry/physics for example,) it is pretty much always taught in SI units. Any class that is NOT a hard science? Imperial. 2: I agree that our dating system is one of the stupidest ideas still in place... Choose either ascending or descending order for the love of everything decent! 3: For most day-to-day things, the system you grew up with works perfectly fine... But the SI system just makes more sense in general. 4: A pound is ~0.45kg, so a 130 pound person would be ~59.1 kilos... Not many are gonna call themselves really fat at that weight, especially if the work out at ALL:D 5: Cooking measurements are freaking WEIRD. 3 teaspoons is one tablespoon, 16 tablespoons is a cup, 2 cups is a pint, 2 pints is a quart, and 4 quarts is a gallon... WHO CAME UP WITH THAT PROGRESSION?!?! Add in 16 ounces of weight is a pound, but 8 FLUID ounces of volume is a cup... yeah...
@@pennyinheaven it cant be easier than a progression of units of 10 surely? You only need to remember one number, and if you forget the clues in the name, "kilo" is derived from "thousand" in greek, so "kilogram" just means "one thousand grams".
@@__-fm5qv Cooking measurements have tools. It's helpful when doing small batch cooking because you don't need a scale. But large, industrial cooking, weights more make sense.
@@zuruumi9849 Not usual. And small cookery aren't by tens. 1 tsp is 5ml, 1 tbsp is 15ml. If you don't have tools, one can ball park using utensils for eating or drinking. Again, metric makes more sense for industrial scale cookery.
I recall reading somewhere that Month Day Year made historical sense because it was descending order of importance in general. Month tells you the general time of year (so the season, important for farming), and rarely did you need to know the exact date. So month came first.
@@BrianPalmore What country isn't dependent on farmers? If a countries land isn't really suitable for certain vegetable or fruit then they get it from other countries that have those.
@@BrianPalmore Sorry this is so late and you'vr probably forgotten, but almost every country and civilization in history has been dependant on farmers. Even in ancient times, there was a reason they built near fertile land and rivers/bodies of water.
@@mech-x-xavious Because the volume of something like flour fluctuates based on temp, humidity, etc. Measuring by weight is actually consistent (according to my baking enthusiast friend).
@@mech-x-xavious I think both have certain advantage. Small amount of ingredient measured using teaspoon and tablespoon could be better because smaller amount, closer to the smallest unit of measurement of the scale, means larger error. Most kitchen scales don't go below 1g so anything close to that has huge error. Also, spoons are sometime faster than using a scale. When it comes to cup, however, I think that system needs to be throw out, converts to grams/ounces. Cup is wildly inaccurate and sometime inconvenient. It's frustrating when recipes ask for cups of butter, expecting butter to be compressed into the measuring cups.
American engineering student here, graduating next week. Can confirm that we are taught both USC and Metric units. In fact, often half our problems will be in one unit and half in the other. There isn't much discussion about why, just "This is the way it is and you are expected to understand how to do both". A lot of manufacturing in the US is done in USC units and replacing all of those tools and machines with metric equivalents is expensive and won't happen soon, so we gotta know them.
yeah i have the same thing in my course. Just over the last two years they've actually dropped the Metric questions because the teachers just went "Well, so long as you don't go international you will never use them." and so the entire thing got phased out for straight imperial, which i had no issue with.
Sweden has two different date formats; 2021-11-29, or 29 November 2021. The big difference here is that we use the first format for archiving and similar things, whereas the second is used where the natural flow of the language has to be considered, such as in news articles. There is also a numeric version of the second one, being 29/11 2021 (or simply -21 for year).
That's actually very efficient and neat In Italy the last part you explained We simply freely and randomly switch between 29-11-21 or 29/11/21 But your system of keeping it diverse with - only for year and / only in-between day and month That's so much better
And as an American and talking with other Americans, I believe in our typical speech patterns we say the month first. I imagine we say 4th of July to differentiate that day.
@@sanjaynambisan2538 Is that why you say Ninth of September instead of September Ninth (You are not red E. Enos lives. Remember that?)? Also, does metric help in fuel savings more than imperial?
4:19 A TON of Americans also call it July 4th. It’s personal preference. “Fourth of July” probably is a bit more common, but it’s still a very common thing to hear “July 4th” as well.
For normal dates, I think most Americans say the month first, such as August 2nd, January 11th, Etc, and I think we say Fourth of July as a way to emphasize that this day is our Independence Day.
@@エルフェンリート-l3i "Ton" as an idiom. So it just means a lot. Interestingly this is where we got the idea that Noah's flood lasted 40 days and 40 nights. Because that was a common idiom at the time that ment a long time.
I do my own maintenance for my Japanese and British motorcycles, but cringe when I look at American cars and bikes because they don't use metric. 10mm is bigger than 8mm, why would I want to do math to figure out if 3/32 is bigger than 1/4?
@@nootics I get that. I grew up with metric. But 1/4 is dramatically bigger than 3/32. In fact, it's almost three times as big. It would've made more sense to use 1/4 and 5/16 since they're much closer (1/4 = 0.25 and 5/16 = 0.31).
"Why do people on the interent use feet?" Because the 'people' on the internet that use feet think that the Internet is American. Thus there is no other mesurments. Theres an Australian Roadshow Magazine which of course has its own website, and it got flooded by complaints that it was using the incorrect mesurements of speed and that it must be changed. Yes, Americans hated on an Australian website for using Kmph instead of their holy Mph...
Americans do tend to be the largest country group on a lot of English speaking sites (that aren't specific to other countries). Especially social media sites that were founded in the US (UA-cam, Facebook, Twitter, etc) But yes, complaining about an Australian site is completely ridiculous.
I once hand to fill a peace of machinery with compressed air at work. The air compressor's gage was written in psi. The machine had a rating of 2 atmospheres inscribed on the side. And the computer we used to measure the inside of the machine had options for pascals, kilopascals or bar. So that's five units total, of which we had to use at least three at a time. Madness
I moved to the US about half a year ago and I had to order some groceries online while I quarantined. Having the measurements in ounces was extremely annoying and in a lot of cases, I never ended up getting the quantity that I expected - it was either too much or too little.
I'm from the US and when I moved to Japan I had a conversion chart ON HAND. It's very useful, I had similar problems with comprehending groceries for cooking/recipes and height, weight, distance ect. You should think of getting one. Saves a lot of trouble and confusion when talking to people also
I love how everyone in the comments is claiming they don't have a smart phone that can do conversions. Apparently there isn't a single European alive who owns an iPhone or Android device. Every single person in Europe is using a Nokia from 1996, I guess. Sounds very believable.
As an American I can say that the 4th of July is an exception to how we speak. The rest of the calendar is actually said January 1st, January 2nd, January 3rd. And yeah, I recognize that it makes no sense America doesn't use the metric system, it would be better (in my opinion) if the world was synchronized on that. However it would cause issues if we stopped now.
@@zaedis5629 Then transitively the 4th of December should also be the case. If it being the 4th is more important, being July or December shouldn't change the order unless July is just an unusually unimportant month.
In the US you would almost always use metric for science and imperial for carpentry. However engineering or industrial purposes can go either way (thus Mythbusters using PSI as a unit). Pure science like physics or chemistry will almost always use SI (unless it’s like a quiz problem specifically trying to force you to convert units for sake of being contrived).
using psi does make sense even in europe. (using psi for pressure makes a shit ton more sense than using atmospheres) 1 psi its around 7kpa and 1 atm its 101kpa its more usefull to just use the smaller unit since the normal one aint sequential either
So relatable. So I'm an American, but I've had to grow up switching between MM/DD/YY and DD/MM/YY and it gets tiring sometimes since I have to speak in Spanish and English where they state dates differently. Same with metric and Imperial and having to learn to convert as a kid because of my parents. Lol
Yeah, as a Chinese Canadian, my family purely used the metric system while everyone else used a weird mixture of the metric system and the imperial system. I did not know my height in feet and inches until a couple months ago and I no longer know what my weight is in pounds (despite the norm for Canadians is to measure both in the imperial system) so whenever a doctor asks me for info, they have to check my weight and height themselves and my friends just gave up whenever I told them my height. Everything else works just fine though because everything else just uses the metric system (unless you’re furnishing your home and stuff like that but even then, both the metric system and the imperial system are used on labels).
Agriculture is a reason. It's more important to know the month first so you understand what season you're in rather than the exact day. So it's better to figure out when to plant crops and start the harvest. It was probably also simpler to use seasons to describe passage of time. So you see stuff like "Three summers ago", which means 3 years old, when you read old english. Also it does ascend numerically. 12 total months, 31 possible days in the month, and so on.
This argument makes no sense. So if a farmer sees the date, 15th November 2021, he would have difficulty seeing what month it is because it doesn't come first?
@@1Rik1 Not necessarily, but you order things by the relevance of the information. Be honest regardless of how completely logical you say you do things you still put the day of the week first? Same thing here. The month matters more so it gets a higher priority.
Why does the United States do month/day/year? Speaking as someone who does a lot of inventory: if a product's expired, the month being different is going to be your giveaway at a glance. It's almost certainly month day year because of that money, same reason why we don't have as many extraneous U's in our words.
That and for the extraneous "U's", the brits ADDED those to words and the newspaper companies in saving money, restored english back to its more proper spelling.
It really boils down to what we're used to. For sciences, everyone uses metric system and we're taught it in schools. We just use customary for regular everyday measurements because we're just used to it.
I think that you are mostly right but i think that people complain about the imperial system because is totally unintuitive, maybe because the imperial system feels like isn't much of a system and more like a bunch of almost unrelated units grouped together. Meanwhile in the metric system everything seems more natural, because it was made to be that way.
@@DarkHunter047 that’s cause they literally are, that’s why many conversions (like a mile being 5280 ft) are such weird numbers they were originally taken from different measurement systems
@@DarkHunter047 america uses the imperial system because it is more intuitive. compared to the metric, which is incredibly useful for calculations since everything is divisible by 10, the imperial system is relative to how humans perceive the world. for example, there's 12 inches in a foot, and 12 is divisible by 2, 3, and 4. that makes mental calculations incredibly easy for the regular person. our cooking measurements are the same because it makes it easier to split recipes in half, thirds, and quarters. as for fahrenheit, it's relative to how we would feel temperature, 100 degrees sounds like it's going to be hot because it's hot for us. it's the same for pounds, 100 pounds is heavy for us (of course, this also depends on your athletic ability as well, but my point still stands). america tried to convert over to the metric system, but it wasn't intuitive enough for regular, everyday people to use. the only i don't understand is miles.
"no one said we had to change to grams and litres for cooking.." I'm pretty sure the law said as it became the law to sell things in metric and the cookbooks followed suit.
Conversion from Imperial to Metrics is the bane of my existence. I've gotten average test scores because of that! And I have no context for how much 10 cm is! Is that short? Is that long? I don't know!
Feel our pain when we have to convert from imperial :D. Like, feet is kind of intuitive, but whose feet is it? My feet are pretty huge, but then my sister's is like half of that and I used to have pretty tiny feet a few decades ago. Btw. my country used to use forearms for measurement before going metric (a long time ago), but I firmly stand by that being a superior unit to feet as you can measure things like cloth without taking off shoes. And yes, it was relative to the one measuring.
From what I understand as an American, we mostly use our system for our everyday use. Miles per hour, feet/yards, etc., when we use these terms its safe to assume that the other party knows what we're talking about. Its just the system that Americans found more useful to use back then that carried on since. Side note, I had no idea people used miles per hour over on Europe. We use the metric system mostly on the sciences. Reason being is that if someone from outside of America used our work, there'd be a universal understanding between everyone. I think that's the whole point of SI units. As for the (month, day, year) thing, i think it just depends on whats more important to keep track of. As an American, I can sorta see how looking at the month first to be beneficial. Maybe back then people put more focus on keeping track of what part of the year they were currently in. At least for me, when I hear the month I instantly have an intuitive idea of what season it currently is, what weather forecast should I expect in the next weeks, etc.
I mean, for the date part, it's just written how it would be said. Usually nobody says "The twelfth of December, 2021", they say "December twelfth, 2021".
I grew up using metric system all my life i tried to learn the imperial system and It's so freaking Confusing. 💀 So when someone says on youtube that they're 5'6 or something. I will just convert it to cm and then have an idea how tall they actually are.. 😂 I also noticed the clock system is different.. So where I'm from we dont have PM/AM so for example 2pm would be 14 o'clock. So basically all the hours that you call PM goes like 12, 13,14,15 until 23 being 11pm and then midnight goes 00:00 and all the hours you call AM goes from 00:00 and then it will go 1.2.3 etc.
The clock is not a big issue because there still the same, you know 14:00 means 2 and so on. The problem with imperial is the lack of consistency, how in one thing is measure by 12 and then by 16? I don´t even know, I use Metric.
You don't have much of a problem in the clock system. Actually that makes it more convenient. If someone told you 7:00 you would know immediately it is morning. Japan also does those weird 26:00 which meant 2am in the next day. I forgot how that works but it actually makes sense.
I'm a lifeguard/swimming instructor in my city. Idk if it's just where I am, but the city has a huge mix of meters/yards pools, different lengths (usually 25 or 50 meters or yards) the two units aren't the same, so when I'm doing examinations, there's different time limits for each pool and it gets really confusing
In the Philippines, we usually use feet for height and I was so confused when one government document asked for cm😦 I was caught off guard good thing phones have unit converters.
I love that for the empirial system you first have the metric standard and then you convert it by a factor to the imperial measures...just so that it gets converted back whenever you enter a scientific conversation.
The thing when you sort by day instead of year was because of some type of sorting system problem. I can't fully remember but I think it looked at day first and goes from smallest to largest but there is one oversight, its not concerned by month or year in the slightest. If you have 3 folders that are: 1/2/2022, 10/2/2022, and 1/3/2022. It will sort it 1/2/2022, 1/3/2022 and 10/2/2022 *this is in DD/MM/YY just to be clear)
Shit, you boys just gave me an epiphany on why it's hard to find files on my computer when I thought I was organized. It's because the month is first when not only alphabetical.
I'm from America, and while they may be illogical and hard to understand, the MM/DD/YYYY and basic imperial measurements come naturally if you've learned them growing up. Of course, hardly anyone remembers how many feet are in a mile (I don't even know why we learn it because there is no chance we are gonna use that conversion), but things like inches and feet are really easy. Liquid measurements and accurately measuring certain dry ingredients is where it typically gets a bit hairy though. Overall though, metric is easier to use in a variety of situations, though I don't see myself using DD/MM/YYYY frequently anytime soon.
I work in medical device manufacturing, pretty much all diameters are in inches, .001” is such a useful increment it is silly to use anything else (except for balloons). Don’t even get me started with French sizing, doctors love using French sizes but they are highly arbitrary in practice. For lengths can go either way between mm and decimal inches. For temperatures I prefer to use Celsius, basically all ovens are in Celsius but all other heaters are in Fahrenheit. We constantly have to change units, some companies even mix units on the same drawing and you have to go by scale to know which is which.
America doesn't use the Imperial system, they use the US customary measurement system. Which is the reason why they don't have Stone as that is Imperial.
I’m from the US and any document I’m saving where the date is important I always save it year/month/day. I’m not a linguist but except for holidays like Cinco de Mayo and the Fourth of July we generally say the month first and the then the day. “When’s your birthday?” “May 22nd.” An ounce is the equivalent of grams and fluid ounce is the equivalent of liters. The only time they are really the same is water mostly because a pint of water is 1 lb(16oz) as well as 16(fl oz). Also the easiest conversion for metric to imperial is fluid ounces(30ml is 1 fl oz)
I am a full-on metric user, but I genuinely believe that imperial system is actually more intuitive for measurements, WHEN 1) you don't have a precise measurement tool, and 2) just want to make an educated guess about the dimensions of something, without caring too much about the absolute accuracy. The advantage imperial system has, I think, lies in the usage of fractions using easily divisible bases.
In my opinion, another thing I like about imperial weight and temperature is that it just seems to capture scale a little bit better. 37 Celsius just doesnt sound that crazy but 100 Fahrenheit is like, oh damn its hot outside, as an example. Or when discussing day to day human weight or gym weight it just seems a little easier to define in my head how much something weighs.
@@shps8609 I mean, food is a day to day thing and 100 degrees = boiling and 0 degrees = frozen seem like far more intuitive benchmarks to me than 0 degrees = the freezing point of a solution of brine and 100 = human body temperature. But honestly the best part of metric is that it is interchangeable around water. 1 litre is equal to one kilogram of water, which is also a cube of 10 centimetres per side. It allows you to use a scale to measure volume of most liquids, and ballpark most other things that are close enough, figure out roughly how much space you'd need for 2000 bottles of soda or 5 tons of flour or whatever. Good luck figuring out how many pounds to the gallon off the top of your head, or how much weight is in a full load of dirt in the back of a truck.
Like the reason we spell certain words different (like color vs colour) I feel like printing costs has something to do with it because October 30th vs the 30th of October it's clear which would use less ink.
That spelling thing is a myth. The reason America spells words differently is due to two reasons. One we're copying the French word that some words came form, but the British wanted to be special so they changed it for some reason. And two that's how it was always spelled then the British changed for some reason. Amarican English is probably more like early modern English then the British equivalent.
The most rediculous place to use the imperial system is in an airplane. "We're now 20.000 feet above the ground!" Yeah great! The very last thing I would measure with my foot is the height of an airplane!!
My grandpa is a retired pilot and it always confused me when he speaks about hight in feet. In our country we only use metric but for some bizarre reason feet are used to measure how high a plane is flying. It's like how the thickness of wood planks is always measured in inches despite the fact that every other thing in carpentry is measured in centimeters.
Thrown in knots (nautical miles per hour, yeah those are a thing) for airspeed and whether if it's indicated or true airspeed, which is also a function of altitude above ground in feet. Can't believe pilots do these calculations in their heads.
@@axelprino copied from quora - "In aviation, why is altitude always measured in feet? “Legacy” is your answer in reality. But pilots are a bit like fisherman, which makes it fun actually (the retired guys all hanging out in a hanger telling tall tales of that “worst crosswind landing in Petoski, Michigan in ‘78, I tell you I was crabbing SIDEWAYS…” So I’ve heard so funny ones about this very subject. But theirs are far more exciting than reality. So the simple truth is, because of the proliferation of American and British aircraft during the early years of aviation, and the explosion in aviation in the United States after World War II, the imperial foot became the international standard for altitude measurement. China (PRC), North Korea, and, until 2017, Russia (they’ve completed the transition to feet I have read; I haven’t actually been there and witnessed it, my firm has a private jet, and in 2013, they were metric still), however, use meters for altitude measurement. The altimeters in my firm’s Gulfstream G650ER are all calibrated in feet, but the already highly-advanced Gulfstream Plainview™️ II avionics in our jet have been upgraded to the best possible software. So for my pilots when we are flying into pain in the ass holdout China, they tap a few times on a touchscreen and the all glass cockpit (aviation term for the former analog gauges have been replaced but multiple LCD flatscreen monitors, hence easy to tap a touchscreen and your now seeing everything in meters. For most aircraft still flying with analog gauges, when flying into metric airspace, we use a simple conversion card on a clipboard. When Shanghai Control clears us to descend to 3600 meters, we check the card and descend to the equivalent: 11,800 feet. And yes, I went up front on a colleagues older jet to watch the process in action - yikes. I’m an experienced private pilot (I got my private pilots license on my 17th birthday, it’s a passion!), certified on my Piper Cheyenne 400 LS twin turboprop to fly solo (as far as private aircraft she’s big, seats nine plus two up front, mine is configured for 6 with some luxuries, and it is still the fastest production twin turboprop to ever roll off an assembly line). And I fly out of Teterboro Airport, 11 miles from Manhattan, so I take off and land in some of the busiest airspace on earth. Add in millions in retrofits and upgrades, and she is not the simplest aircraft to fly, to say the least. My point is that I understand quite well what’s going on up front while I watched that descent and approach. During rush hour at airports like Shanghai and Beijing, the controllers rattle off clearances very fast. They will often assign my crew a heading, speed and metric altitude all in one shot. Well, in the jet with the analog gauges, the metric altitude conversion adds an additional task to an already challenging environment. I will say those guys were great - never said a word but never broke a sweat. You stay on our toes in metric airspace! i apologize for the rather verbose too complete answer, but obviously flying is a passion and I love discussing it and imparting some info when I can. So it’s an Yank/Brit legacy that almost every nation uses feet for altitude measurements, and bring your handy conversion charts for China and of course those trips to North Korea! Let me know if you have any questions. I attached a pic of our “glass cockpit” just so you can see why the avionics are not so customizable. Indeed the COOLEST thing ever to a nerd like me was when our flight computer’s “voice” began calling out our altitude in meters as well…instead of the usual “100 feet…” I got metes (my system stops saying feet of meters under 100, so when landing it’s “50….40….20….10….” - meters would be irritating at that stage."
I live in Canada, everything here is officially calculated in Metric. I work in construction, when a concrete truck pulls up to pour, his manifest says how many cubic meters he is carrying, wood is delivered by the centimeter, weight is normally by kilograms. But once it gets on the site, carpenters cut according to the blueprints which are based on certain standards that although metric is still used it conforms with lengths that are in Imperial. A carpenter will cut wood so that it is 10 feet long as that is the height of one storey in Canada - go figure
4:00 Month scrolls stop at 12. When manually inputing, they usually tell you the format mm/dd/yyyy. But it's America. Home of the, "fuck Europe. We do things our way and don't even try to tell us what to do or how to do it."
as an engineering student in the US we have to know how to use both. everyone wants to use SI and most tests are in SI but we are still expected to know how to use imperial. sometimes some values are not even governed by "convertion factors" so when a formula has a value based on experimental data its a different formula for imperial
Please, Connor, remember where your microphone is. Sometimes, it gets a little hard to hear you (and if I turn up my volume any more, I'll jump whenever Joey or Garnt suddenly jump in loudly)
I like how they answer the question themselves. The only problem with the American date system is not putting the year first. Then everything would just work. We just do it lazy like Connor is saying, but as ordered like Garnt said. You never sort anything by day of the month, but you still get to be lazy for 365 days until the next year. Imperial is dumb though.
2:34 American Addresses are usually put in this format [Numbers] [Street Name] [Ave, St., Blvd, Etc] [Direction (N,S,E,W)] Edit: Apartment Numbers are always after the Address itself.
Fun fact about Canada, we are the only developed country that uses all three date systems in official documentations (YY/MM/DD, MM/DD/YY, and DD/MM/YY, though the last one is the most popular one).
@@warcrimes390 It is. I don't know about other countries, but they almost always specify which date system to use to avoid confusion. If no specification (rare), we use DD/MM/YY and pray that it's the right one. Aside from government documents, most documents allowed me to just use name date instead (ie. Nov 29, 2021).
MM/DD/YYYY Month is first, when organizing files in a filing cabinet, especially in companies/retail. month is important. Then day is like a sub-unit of month, so you look in that months folder to find the documents from the day you are trying to find. year is at the end, cus usually the documents you need are right there, usually in a 90-120 day context. So in reality year isnt as important which is why it is on the end.
Once again, Britain started it, just like with calling football soccer. We just stuck with it. It makes sense both ways imo, so it’s all semantics. But we use both formats for declaration of date: “MM DD” and “the DD of MM”. For semantics sake, our format is quicker to say and write (month then day). Japan’s method doesn’t make sense to me, the year changes way slower, so putting it last actually makes sense to me. In general, every format has their benefits. And the whole metric vs imperial thing, anyone in stem mostly uses metric, so again we’re like our UK brethren.
I mean, you are technically correct (in some regards) but I wouldn't consider that a useful argument. I believe that there is more merit in converting to a universal standard. Simply because it drastically decreases the chances of miss understandings and errors in comunication. Like, saving hours in time cause you dont have to keep converting between systems. Or having a rocket that costs hundreds of millions of dollars exploding, or planes crashing, or satellites crashing, or cars crashing. I just think that, in the long run as the world becomes even more interconnected than it already is, the problems caused by these confusing systems will escalate. Or the programs and systems needed to automatically convert units will become ubiquitous. In the same way that using the dollar as the global standard for international trade, and how the GMT/UTC system for time made it insanely easier to coordinate between time zones. (Even if daylight savings makes it harder than neccessary for no reason whatsoever). Also metric all the way. Also I feel like within Japan, it has a lot more to do with how they still don't use computer systems to organize everything so much easier. Like, in my uni, we've used DD/MM/YYYY for over a decade now because the computers automatically organize things into years for us and directry systems make finding the physical locations of files stupid easy that even first years can do it.
What is really frustrating about the imperial system is that it forced us engineering students to be able to solve sciences using both the metric and imperial system. We would even need to memorize the constant for conversion. Just the sheer amount of constants you need to memorize is frustrating enough, then you need to memorize a new formula for imperial (though the formula is technically the same as metric, the constants are different so it's just a pain).
As a chemist working in America, while….I am very familiar with the metric system, you just never learn anything about how to convert BETWEEN imperial and metric. Like….I can tell you roughly how big of a pile of salt weighing 10 grams is, but I can’t say “oh, that’s also 0.35 oz “. Also, weirdly enough, things like Liters we actually do have a decent grasp on because in America the most common large size of sodas you can buy is a “two liter bottle”. So if you ever need to tell anyone in America the size of a liter, just say “half of a big soda bottle” Edit: trust me, most Americans agree the metric system is better, but….until all the road signs and weight and measurements you encounter in daily life change accordingly, it’s never gonna change. The infrastructure changing is the most important thing to lead to the adoption of a new system like that.
@@_Ekaros it's pretty much never ever done. Luckily the science community realized that it would be hell and it's all pretty much standardized to be grams and moles and nothing else. However, there obviously was that famous lunar probe that failed due to American components being incorrectly constructed using imperial specs rather than metric. Probably the single most expensive fuck up of unit conversion in history. That's why today there's an even bigger emphasis on the science community all agreeing on the same rules and guidleines.
In a postal system you need the street number and street name first. Machines sort them down to city and route number so the carrier needs to see the number and street first. Some people do say July 4th or March 10(Mario). The old imperial system is a lot better for doing things by hand. Inch is a Norman adult knuckle , foot is obvious, yard is a normal adult stride for stepping out distance. Chains and rods are easier to use in fields. Everything in imperial has purpose unlike metric that just uses base10
Metric makes math easier but imperial system has a basis in reality. Index fingertip is around an inch. Your foot is around a foot long. A yard is the distance on a six foot tall person probably around fingertip to shoulder. Metric is great for people who need to do math regarding large measurements but imperial is great if you're just an average person needing to measure something without any means of measurement around.
That and all carpentry is done in imperial. A saw blade width is exactly 1/8inch Plywood sheets are measured by the 1/8inch Wall studs are exactly 1.5"×3.5" Sheathing is always 4'×8' Because its all in fractions its very easy math to do in your head. By powers of 10 it would be downright insane.
Reason for month/day/year is because when communicating over phone/radio in the old days it was quicker and easier to relay information like it’s quicker to say March 5th than the 5th of March
I say day-month-year or year-month-day are both acceptable options, because theres a logical order of scale there, small to big or big to small. If you HAVE to put the month before the day, you stick that year in front of it, or you gtfo. As for metric vs imperial, fuck imperial, get that shit out of here and I dont even know where stones fit in. Metric all the way.
2:09 - but if you organize files on a computer by date then they go in the correct order. This only applies if you NAME the file based on the date then organize by the file name.
You know there's multiple tons, with different spellings? There's the metric tonne, then the imperial ton, the short and long tons and finally a tun. Tun is just an old weight meant to represent a specific barrel size, and I'm pretty sure its only use is in pub signs in the modern day.
Metric is superior to imperial in every way. It is extremely accurate, globally used, provides a logical numbering system (0C is freezing, 100C is boiling), and uses increments of 100 to provide fast calculations and estimations. Every scientist uses metric for good reason. Why USA is so fixated on the imperial boggles me.
You're telling me I'm supposed to think 30°C sounds hotter than 90°F for the weather? Fahrenheit is far superior for the weather and I'm tired of people pretending it's not!
@@keithtestaverde3712 What lmao Metric is better for weather. 0 C is when water freezes. So anything below that you can expect ice or snow. -30 C is cold. +30 C is hot. It's way better than an arbitrary system
@@Ash_Wen-li Yeah but why base our scale on water? If we want a true 0 than just use Kelvin, no real chemist uses Celsius. Scientifically, Kelvin is the most accurate. Fahrenheit temperatures makes sense for weather. If it's cold its cold and if it's hot it's hot, we should use the correct scale to reflect that. 90 sounds hot and 30 sounds cold on a scale on 100, which is about the hottest it gets on Earth. What, it's too difficult to remember that 212 is boiling and 32 is freezing? Why is it important for 0 to be freezing and 100 boiling? Do you think about the stove temperature when you boil water?
I fully agree it should be more consistent. We should all go to the imperial system. Honestly, if the most advanced countries use the imperial system then the rest should just adapt
The Japanese system of putting the year first comes from the Chinese counting system of always putting the largest number/unit first. But I agree with Grant that is probably the most logical way to do it. The UK system makes sense, but is less practical for sorting documents. The US system is just silly.
Both, the UK and Japanese system makes sense but the Japanese system is just a bit more straightforward when it's about arranging data, the US's system is very very outdated.
Appearently the dating system used to be that way because it was written out in full. So December 12 1880 for example.since the month was written out t their was no reason to insert it into the center. But as digital clocks started being used it transitioned to numbers without changing formats.
As someone who’s lived in countries with both Celsius and Fahrenheit , Fahrenheit is just better, definitely more accurate for air temps and easier to conceptualize
Day-Month-Year is the only acceptable one, because most of the time, you don't need to specify the year. If you make an appointment that's only a few days away, then chances are you can just write down "coffee date on the 26th". If it's a bit longer down the road, you write down something like "dentist on the 5th of september" so that is 5/9. And the year you only specify in rare cases. So obviously that comes last.
As not an America I’d say putting the month first kind of makes sense because people refer to dates as “November 30th, 2021” not “30th of November, 2021”. Get “of” out of here. Nobody wants to say extra syllables. And that’s how that system was made.
This must be so fucked up man. its already hard enough when you got complicated compound measurements but doing it from SI-units to in Imperial and back is messed up.
@@theramendutchman i think that most of the politicians dont bother updating because most of them are lawyers, sociology or history students so they dont understand the hardship you go trough. its the same with seconds and minutes and so on, maybe in some parallel universe the society decided to count 1hour as 100minutes and 1minute as 100 seconds and all messurements finally fall into place perfectly.
One of the worst offenders when learning and then trying to apply engineering is when working with heat and energy, thermodynamics etc and you run into the mothereffin BTU. It's bad enough that we both have joules and watt hours for units of energy, that isn't straightforward to convert between, then there's so much real world stuff that's listed with the goddamn BTU that it's unavoidable if you're working in the field
day month year is best for everyday use as it goes in an order which prioritizes the things you are least likely to know e.g you're more likely to know the year than the day as the year is a bigger deal and you have more time to learn the year. With this you get the information you want to know faster.
For those wondering, the difference between regular and fluid ounces is what they're measuring Regular ounces are a measurement of weight (1 pound is 16 ounces) Fluid ounces are a measurement of volume (1 gallon is 128 fluid ounces)
As a physicist, getting angry over measurement units is a hallowed tradition.
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quantum gravity is trivial in front of imperial measurements, as a fellow physicist
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At first I thought about halloween tradition 😂 but It can be scary
so, daily basis
MM DD YYYY was originally British, like the Imperial System. Back when it would take months to ship goods across the ocean the Month it should arrive on was more important than the day.
And like with the Metric System, when the rest of the world found a more efficient system America didn't feel like updating.
I would say something here but I already know where this debate will go. However I will measure my window in inches for my new air conditioner simply to infuriate non-Americans on the internet
@@atomheart7907 By all means you do you. If you live in the US, go ahead and use imperial system; but, once you're outside, don't expect people to conform to your system. Easy.
Edit: fixed grammar and punctuation.
@@Gabriel-l agreed. But i think that wont be a problem for most americans, as ive heard that most of them dont ever leave the country
The sad thing is America DID try to update. One of the presidents decided to update to metric but then nearly immediately reverted that decision upon encountering a km/h road sign and not understanding it.
@@mono8476 I don’t know where you heard this, but you’re wrong😂😂 about 70% of Americans travel internationally. We just don’t have to travel outside of the country to experience new places, we just need to travel to the other side of the country (or state) but just because we don’t need to, doesn’t mean we don’t.
You want stupid units, here's one: a pound of most substances is about 21.5% heavier than a pound of gold, because "gold" has its own specific notion of a pound.
same annoyance in India/Pakistan with this extra unit called "Tola" specifically for Gold and weighs about 11 grams
I have never thought about that. That is indeed a very stupid unit. Lol Thanks for sharing.
how about this a carat is a measurement of weight for gems, but purity for metals
Reusing unit names is bad enough, but reusing the name and the characteristic that's being measured for a different unit? That's on an extra special level of stupid.
Wait till you learn about long scale counting and short scale; short form being a bit more common.
As someone who works with cars, I've gotten used to using metric sized tools instead of standard. It's easier on the brain to go from 8mm to 10mm than 3/4" to 13/16"
Using a micrometer measured in inches would be hell
Standard what? For most of the world, metric is standard.
@@ravenwraith1017 in the US, standard is imperial. But most people I know use metric tools.
@@juanmanuelpenaloza9264 So the international standard instead of imperial? Gotchu!
You do make perfect sense going from 8mm to 10mm, though ;-)
I remember watching a video of a guy trying to justify imperial, and the reason he gave was that imperial measurement tables cannot be smoothly transitioned to metric, which is hilarious (basically, saying something like 3foot doesn't give a whole metric value, instead having a long string of ugly decimals)
Little extra note on the cooking thing: if you're writing a recipe, and in your ingredients you list: "A stick of butter", think about your life for a second and realise that butter is sold in all sorts of sizes and quatities worldwide.
Which is also why we should use volumetric measurements when it comes to culinary related things.
A pinch of salt. Just how big of a pinch is that? How many fingers did you use? Is it kosher or fine table salt?
An egg. How small is the egg?
exact accuracy is usually not too big of an issue for cooking. a pinch of salt has room for variance just depending on how salty you prefer your food, a slightly larger egg wont really affect your final dish. the main issue is with baking, where exact measures are much more important for science and chemistry reasons, which is why most bakers recommend weighing things out
@@xuapril32 I agree, I was mostly irritated at american baking recipes that call for a stick of butter, but honestly the discrepancy between what a "tablespoon" is exactly is a lot more annoying, again mostly in baking. Probably that's more a problem for me personally as an aussie, for some reason our tablespoon is 33% bigger than everywhere else.
In that way I vastly prefer recipies that just give up and just go x units.
2 units of this
.1 units of that
220 units of whatever.
What is that unit? You decide based on how much you want the results to be.
@@Whitewingdevil 1 stick of butter in America is always the same which is 1/4lb or like 110g For me the confusing part was “1 cup” also it’s annoying having to have all this kitchen measuring utensils when I can just have a scale
As an American I whole heartedly agree about date formatting, that’s why whenever I have to write a date, if I get the option, I use the 3 letter month (e.g Nov 11, 20xx) that way it’s entirely unambiguous. I much prefer YYMMDD though because it makes sorting documents so much easier.
YYMMDD is bis ye
MMDDYY GANG RISE UP.
With the exception of "4th of July" most people who give a date in the US do say the month first. Example: "when is the wedding?" "Its December 7th." I dont know of anyone who would say "7th of December." I'm curious if that way of talking is more common in the UK or other countries.
@@nicksmith9109 In polish you would start with a day generally.
or use the date that everyone else uses for once
ddmmyy
I have unironically thought more than once "what unit of time do the Americans use again?", both times I was pretty tired, though.
Then you ask yourself what the heck is PST and EST
War times
@@DanielPereira-ey9nt Yeah that's a major annoyance as well. Especially when international companies announce stuff and they write PST and EST but not UTC. Americans probably know the difference between their own time zones but everyone else has to look it up. Just write it in UTC time and everyone can remember how much they're going to have to add to that.
Just use UTC. UTC was created separate from what we previously had a GMT to remove any confusing. Then you see online you see PST, PDT, EST. How the heck am I supposed to know that if I'm not from that country being America.
@@susear5939 it's UTC
I'm studying engineering and in my country we use the metric system for everything. For a project I had to base it on a text book from america that only had the imperial system. Without exagerating, I wasted more time converting units back and forth to make the calculations than I spent in the rest of the project.
I feel dor you comrade
I am an engineer in america and i pretty much exclusively used metric units in college
As an Engineering student what I hate about the imperial system is when there's a pound force/newton conversion in a problem
We literally lost a space probe for shit like that.
@@francesco8000 hahaha lol
As a chemical engineering student life would be much easier without it, but no we were told to learn about it so that in the slightest chance we work with Americans or Brits we can utilize it. The time I take converting those units could've been used to understand the problem more.
Pound and Pound Force is such a stupid idea because most people will ignore the second word and be confused when they randomly switch from talking about force to talking about weight
@@francesco8000 wait, what?
As an American, I can state a few things:
1: If it is a HARD science (chemistry/physics for example,) it is pretty much always taught in SI units. Any class that is NOT a hard science? Imperial.
2: I agree that our dating system is one of the stupidest ideas still in place... Choose either ascending or descending order for the love of everything decent!
3: For most day-to-day things, the system you grew up with works perfectly fine... But the SI system just makes more sense in general.
4: A pound is ~0.45kg, so a 130 pound person would be ~59.1 kilos... Not many are gonna call themselves really fat at that weight, especially if the work out at ALL:D
5: Cooking measurements are freaking WEIRD. 3 teaspoons is one tablespoon, 16 tablespoons is a cup, 2 cups is a pint, 2 pints is a quart, and 4 quarts is a gallon... WHO CAME UP WITH THAT PROGRESSION?!?! Add in 16 ounces of weight is a pound, but 8 FLUID ounces of volume is a cup... yeah...
#5 the progression may be janked but it's easier, at least to me.
@@pennyinheaven it cant be easier than a progression of units of 10 surely? You only need to remember one number, and if you forget the clues in the name, "kilo" is derived from "thousand" in greek, so "kilogram" just means "one thousand grams".
@@__-fm5qv Cooking measurements have tools. It's helpful when doing small batch cooking because you don't need a scale. But large, industrial cooking, weights more make sense.
@@pennyinheaven There are also volume measurement tools for metric units.
@@zuruumi9849 Not usual. And small cookery aren't by tens. 1 tsp is 5ml, 1 tbsp is 15ml. If you don't have tools, one can ball park using utensils for eating or drinking. Again, metric makes more sense for industrial scale cookery.
I can't believe stones are a real measurement. They sound like something out of an archaic fairy tale
To me stones as a meassurment sounds Just as archaic as feet.
Soo...England.
I recall reading somewhere that Month Day Year made historical sense because it was descending order of importance in general. Month tells you the general time of year (so the season, important for farming), and rarely did you need to know the exact date. So month came first.
why are we americans so dependant on farmers
first daylight savings time and now THIS bullshit
@@BrianPalmore i mean they are the reason we have food on the table
@@BrianPalmore because before the industrial revolution most of the economy revolved around agriculture.
@@BrianPalmore What country isn't dependent on farmers? If a countries land isn't really suitable for certain vegetable or fruit then they get it from other countries that have those.
@@BrianPalmore Sorry this is so late and you'vr probably forgotten, but almost every country and civilization in history has been dependant on farmers. Even in ancient times, there was a reason they built near fertile land and rivers/bodies of water.
As someone who cooks regularly, I have to agree with Connor that differentiating btw. ounces is annoying as hell.
Why would you even use ounces instead of teaspoons and tablespoons anyways?
Annoying at shit when you look up a recipe, you look at it and it says like 10,000 Johnny Bravo of salt.
@@mech-x-xavious Because the volume of something like flour fluctuates based on temp, humidity, etc. Measuring by weight is actually consistent (according to my baking enthusiast friend).
@@AllUpOns Fair enough
@@mech-x-xavious I think both have certain advantage. Small amount of ingredient measured using teaspoon and tablespoon could be better because smaller amount, closer to the smallest unit of measurement of the scale, means larger error. Most kitchen scales don't go below 1g so anything close to that has huge error. Also, spoons are sometime faster than using a scale. When it comes to cup, however, I think that system needs to be throw out, converts to grams/ounces. Cup is wildly inaccurate and sometime inconvenient. It's frustrating when recipes ask for cups of butter, expecting butter to be compressed into the measuring cups.
American engineering student here, graduating next week. Can confirm that we are taught both USC and Metric units. In fact, often half our problems will be in one unit and half in the other. There isn't much discussion about why, just "This is the way it is and you are expected to understand how to do both". A lot of manufacturing in the US is done in USC units and replacing all of those tools and machines with metric equivalents is expensive and won't happen soon, so we gotta know them.
you seem to forgot nasa blew up over a hundread million dollars because of this, and they would save more money long term.
@@thatundeadlegacy2985 I did not "forget" this. Nothing in my post suggested I didn't know this.
yeah i have the same thing in my course. Just over the last two years they've actually dropped the Metric questions because the teachers just went "Well, so long as you don't go international you will never use them." and so the entire thing got phased out for straight imperial, which i had no issue with.
You can’t even agree on the name of your system. I’ve already seen it being called Imperial, Standard, and USC.
@@ybenax What a weak take. This is like being upset that it's referred to as "SI" and "Metric".
Sweden has two different date formats; 2021-11-29, or 29 November 2021. The big difference here is that we use the first format for archiving and similar things, whereas the second is used where the natural flow of the language has to be considered, such as in news articles.
There is also a numeric version of the second one, being 29/11 2021 (or simply -21 for year).
That's actually very efficient and neat
In Italy the last part you explained
We simply freely and randomly switch between
29-11-21 or 29/11/21
But your system of keeping it diverse with - only for year and / only in-between day and month
That's so much better
And as an American and talking with other Americans, I believe in our typical speech patterns we say the month first. I imagine we say 4th of July to differentiate that day.
@@vidcas1711 I've heard a lot of people from the US say things like January 1st, which would then explain why that format is more common.
How the hell did Joey forget Australia does day month year. We literally mock America for their calendar system.
It's easy to forget because the entire rest of the world mocks Americans as well
Na but day month yr is way easier than month day year
@@sanjaynambisan2538 Without a doubt.
@@sanjaynambisan2538 it's almost as if counting from bottom to top and left to right was logical...
@@sanjaynambisan2538 Is that why you say Ninth of September instead of September Ninth (You are not red E. Enos lives. Remember that?)?
Also, does metric help in fuel savings more than imperial?
4:19
A TON of Americans also call it July 4th. It’s personal preference. “Fourth of July” probably is a bit more common, but it’s still a very common thing to hear “July 4th” as well.
by "TON" , do you mean short, long, US or UK ton?
A ton of Americans is actually around 10 Americans cuz of weight stereotypes
@@エルフェンリート-l3i metric ton. (Yes, that's a thing... 1000kg)
For normal dates, I think most Americans say the month first, such as August 2nd, January 11th, Etc, and I think we say Fourth of July as a way to emphasize that this day is our Independence Day.
@@エルフェンリート-l3i "Ton" as an idiom. So it just means a lot. Interestingly this is where we got the idea that Noah's flood lasted 40 days and 40 nights. Because that was a common idiom at the time that ment a long time.
I do my own maintenance for my Japanese and British motorcycles, but cringe when I look at American cars and bikes because they don't use metric.
10mm is bigger than 8mm, why would I want to do math to figure out if 3/32 is bigger than 1/4?
Uhm... 1/4 is bigger than 3/32.
Unless this is a joke I'm not getting.
@@brian0057 "if" it's bigger, not "that" it's bigger, also not exactly knowing it but having to figure it out is the exact point of the comment
@@nootics I get that. I grew up with metric.
But 1/4 is dramatically bigger than 3/32. In fact, it's almost three times as big.
It would've made more sense to use 1/4 and 5/16 since they're much closer (1/4 = 0.25 and 5/16 = 0.31).
I don’t feel like this is a measurement system problem. Those are just fractions.
@@Zodiackiller211 why?
"Why do people on the interent use feet?"
Because the 'people' on the internet that use feet think that the Internet is American. Thus there is no other mesurments. Theres an Australian Roadshow Magazine which of course has its own website, and it got flooded by complaints that it was using the incorrect mesurements of speed and that it must be changed. Yes, Americans hated on an Australian website for using Kmph instead of their holy Mph...
To be fair, most Americans forget that other countries even exist.
Well all the websites that matter on the internet are American made. Internet usage in America is the best in the world. There is great coverage here
@@TheVoltaire1 Define best internet usage.
Americans do tend to be the largest country group on a lot of English speaking sites (that aren't specific to other countries). Especially social media sites that were founded in the US (UA-cam, Facebook, Twitter, etc)
But yes, complaining about an Australian site is completely ridiculous.
then I gave up in cm and started measuring in feet pics
I once hand to fill a peace of machinery with compressed air at work.
The air compressor's gage was written in psi. The machine had a rating of 2 atmospheres inscribed on the side. And the computer we used to measure the inside of the machine had options for pascals, kilopascals or bar. So that's five units total, of which we had to use at least three at a time. Madness
That just sounds like a good way for someone to mess up
I love the Imperial system!
…when I'm playing D&D, because it makes everyone sound like a mystical wizard.
I moved to the US about half a year ago and I had to order some groceries online while I quarantined. Having the measurements in ounces was extremely annoying and in a lot of cases, I never ended up getting the quantity that I expected - it was either too much or too little.
It's 1/128th of a gallon.
I'm from the US and when I moved to Japan I had a conversion chart ON HAND. It's very useful, I had similar problems with comprehending groceries for cooking/recipes and height, weight, distance ect. You should think of getting one. Saves a lot of trouble and confusion when talking to people also
I love how everyone in the comments is claiming they don't have a smart phone that can do conversions. Apparently there isn't a single European alive who owns an iPhone or Android device. Every single person in Europe is using a Nokia from 1996, I guess. Sounds very believable.
@@xinceras-6542 well id rather have anything else than an iphone
@@xinceras-6542 i forgot the only continent besides NA is Europe
As an American I can say that the 4th of July is an exception to how we speak. The rest of the calendar is actually said January 1st, January 2nd, January 3rd.
And yeah, I recognize that it makes no sense America doesn't use the metric system, it would be better (in my opinion) if the world was synchronized on that. However it would cause issues if we stopped now.
The day is more important than the month in the 4th of July's case
The day is more important than the month in the 4th of July's case
The day is more important than the month in the 4th of July's case
The day is more important than the month in the 4th of July's case
@@zaedis5629 Then transitively the 4th of December should also be the case. If it being the 4th is more important, being July or December shouldn't change the order unless July is just an unusually unimportant month.
In the US you would almost always use metric for science and imperial for carpentry. However engineering or industrial purposes can go either way (thus Mythbusters using PSI as a unit). Pure science like physics or chemistry will almost always use SI (unless it’s like a quiz problem specifically trying to force you to convert units for sake of being contrived).
using psi does make sense even in europe. (using psi for pressure makes a shit ton more sense than using atmospheres) 1 psi its around 7kpa and 1 atm its 101kpa its more usefull to just use the smaller unit since the normal one aint sequential either
@kuma8030 but then cant people just use Pa?
My need to go to Japan just to show these guys how to cook is VERY HIGH.
Also please have a cook off contest video....I NEED THIS!
So relatable. So I'm an American, but I've had to grow up switching between MM/DD/YY and DD/MM/YY and it gets tiring sometimes since I have to speak in Spanish and English where they state dates differently. Same with metric and Imperial and having to learn to convert as a kid because of my parents. Lol
Yeah, as a Chinese Canadian, my family purely used the metric system while everyone else used a weird mixture of the metric system and the imperial system. I did not know my height in feet and inches until a couple months ago and I no longer know what my weight is in pounds (despite the norm for Canadians is to measure both in the imperial system) so whenever a doctor asks me for info, they have to check my weight and height themselves and my friends just gave up whenever I told them my height. Everything else works just fine though because everything else just uses the metric system (unless you’re furnishing your home and stuff like that but even then, both the metric system and the imperial system are used on labels).
Agriculture is a reason. It's more important to know the month first so you understand what season you're in rather than the exact day. So it's better to figure out when to plant crops and start the harvest. It was probably also simpler to use seasons to describe passage of time. So you see stuff like "Three summers ago", which means 3 years old, when you read old english. Also it does ascend numerically. 12 total months, 31 possible days in the month, and so on.
Yeah I heard this to.
This argument makes no sense. So if a farmer sees the date, 15th November 2021, he would have difficulty seeing what month it is because it doesn't come first?
@@1Rik1 Not necessarily, but you order things by the relevance of the information. Be honest regardless of how completely logical you say you do things you still put the day of the week first? Same thing here. The month matters more so it gets a higher priority.
Why does the United States do month/day/year? Speaking as someone who does a lot of inventory: if a product's expired, the month being different is going to be your giveaway at a glance. It's almost certainly month day year because of that money, same reason why we don't have as many extraneous U's in our words.
That and for the extraneous "U's", the brits ADDED those to words and the newspaper companies in saving money, restored english back to its more proper spelling.
It really boils down to what we're used to. For sciences, everyone uses metric system and we're taught it in schools. We just use customary for regular everyday measurements because we're just used to it.
I think that you are mostly right but i think that people complain about the imperial system because is totally unintuitive, maybe because the imperial system feels like isn't much of a system and more like a bunch of almost unrelated units grouped together. Meanwhile in the metric system everything seems more natural, because it was made to be that way.
@@DarkHunter047 that’s cause they literally are, that’s why many conversions (like a mile being 5280 ft) are such weird numbers they were originally taken from different measurement systems
@@DarkHunter047 america uses the imperial system because it is more intuitive. compared to the metric, which is incredibly useful for calculations since everything is divisible by 10, the imperial system is relative to how humans perceive the world. for example, there's 12 inches in a foot, and 12 is divisible by 2, 3, and 4. that makes mental calculations incredibly easy for the regular person. our cooking measurements are the same because it makes it easier to split recipes in half, thirds, and quarters. as for fahrenheit, it's relative to how we would feel temperature, 100 degrees sounds like it's going to be hot because it's hot for us. it's the same for pounds, 100 pounds is heavy for us (of course, this also depends on your athletic ability as well, but my point still stands). america tried to convert over to the metric system, but it wasn't intuitive enough for regular, everyday people to use. the only i don't understand is miles.
0:55 awkward... that would be a bit more difficult now.
"no one said we had to change to grams and litres for cooking.." I'm pretty sure the law said as it became the law to sell things in metric and the cookbooks followed suit.
Conversion from Imperial to Metrics is the bane of my existence. I've gotten average test scores because of that! And I have no context for how much 10 cm is! Is that short? Is that long? I don't know!
A foot is about 30 cm so 10 cm is a third of a foot or about 4 inches
Feel our pain when we have to convert from imperial :D. Like, feet is kind of intuitive, but whose feet is it? My feet are pretty huge, but then my sister's is like half of that and I used to have pretty tiny feet a few decades ago.
Btw. my country used to use forearms for measurement before going metric (a long time ago), but I firmly stand by that being a superior unit to feet as you can measure things like cloth without taking off shoes. And yes, it was relative to the one measuring.
@@zuruumi9849
They're not literally feet, they're just called that for some reason. It's 1/3 of a meter!
@@arch3223, holy shit you got giant feet.
All that conversion must be a pain. You'd be better off ditching Imperial and fully adopting metric.
From what I understand as an American, we mostly use our system for our everyday use. Miles per hour, feet/yards, etc., when we use these terms its safe to assume that the other party knows what we're talking about. Its just the system that Americans found more useful to use back then that carried on since. Side note, I had no idea people used miles per hour over on Europe.
We use the metric system mostly on the sciences. Reason being is that if someone from outside of America used our work, there'd be a universal understanding between everyone. I think that's the whole point of SI units.
As for the (month, day, year) thing, i think it just depends on whats more important to keep track of. As an American, I can sorta see how looking at the month first to be beneficial. Maybe back then people put more focus on keeping track of what part of the year they were currently in. At least for me, when I hear the month I instantly have an intuitive idea of what season it currently is, what weather forecast should I expect in the next weeks, etc.
I'm pretty sure that only UK uses miles
I mean, for the date part, it's just written how it would be said. Usually nobody says "The twelfth of December, 2021", they say "December twelfth, 2021".
I grew up using metric system all my life i tried to learn the imperial system and It's so freaking Confusing. 💀 So when someone says on youtube that they're 5'6 or something. I will just convert it to cm and then have an idea how tall they actually are.. 😂
I also noticed the clock system is different.. So where I'm from we dont have PM/AM so for example 2pm would be 14 o'clock. So basically all the hours that you call PM goes like 12, 13,14,15 until 23 being 11pm and then midnight goes 00:00 and all the hours you call AM goes from 00:00 and then it will go 1.2.3 etc.
The clock is not a big issue because there still the same, you know 14:00 means 2 and so on. The problem with imperial is the lack of consistency, how in one thing is measure by 12 and then by 16? I don´t even know, I use Metric.
You don't have much of a problem in the clock system. Actually that makes it more convenient. If someone told you 7:00 you would know immediately it is morning. Japan also does those weird 26:00 which meant 2am in the next day. I forgot how that works but it actually makes sense.
I'm a lifeguard/swimming instructor in my city. Idk if it's just where I am, but the city has a huge mix of meters/yards pools, different lengths (usually 25 or 50 meters or yards) the two units aren't the same, so when I'm doing examinations, there's different time limits for each pool and it gets really confusing
In the Philippines, we usually use feet for height and I was so confused when one government document asked for cm😦 I was caught off guard good thing phones have unit converters.
PHILIPPINES USES FEET?
@@chez14 only in height though. we mostly use metric
I have the same dilemma
Lol
How tall are you?
6’0
What is your weight:
138kgs
Lfmao
I'm glad that the only Imperial unit I'm ever confronted with is inches for monitor diagonals, that's the only use case where it survives lol.
Lol ur right, why do we still use that?
tbh i never used monitor inches to actually visualise the size of the monitor. the fact that the monitor is measured in diagonals is stupid enough.
I love that for the empirial system you first have the metric standard and then you convert it by a factor to the imperial measures...just so that it gets converted back whenever you enter a scientific conversation.
The thing when you sort by day instead of year was because of some type of sorting system problem. I can't fully remember but I think it looked at day first and goes from smallest to largest but there is one oversight, its not concerned by month or year in the slightest. If you have 3 folders that are: 1/2/2022, 10/2/2022, and 1/3/2022. It will sort it 1/2/2022, 1/3/2022 and 10/2/2022 *this is in DD/MM/YY just to be clear)
Shit, you boys just gave me an epiphany on why it's hard to find files on my computer when I thought I was organized. It's because the month is first when not only alphabetical.
7:42 pound is defined as 0.45359237 kilograms
I personally like the year/month/day system it is easiest in most all forms
If se could have only one, that would be the best one.
4:20 it’s interchangeable. I’ve heard it go both ways many times in my life.
Since Joey forgot, Australia uses Day/Month/Year
I'm from America, and while they may be illogical and hard to understand, the MM/DD/YYYY and basic imperial measurements come naturally if you've learned them growing up. Of course, hardly anyone remembers how many feet are in a mile (I don't even know why we learn it because there is no chance we are gonna use that conversion), but things like inches and feet are really easy. Liquid measurements and accurately measuring certain dry ingredients is where it typically gets a bit hairy though.
Overall though, metric is easier to use in a variety of situations, though I don't see myself using DD/MM/YYYY frequently anytime soon.
I actually agree with Garnt on this one. It should be YYYY/MM/DD
I work in medical device manufacturing, pretty much all diameters are in inches, .001” is such a useful increment it is silly to use anything else (except for balloons). Don’t even get me started with French sizing, doctors love using French sizes but they are highly arbitrary in practice. For lengths can go either way between mm and decimal inches. For temperatures I prefer to use Celsius, basically all ovens are in Celsius but all other heaters are in Fahrenheit. We constantly have to change units, some companies even mix units on the same drawing and you have to go by scale to know which is which.
Astrology with extra steps😭😭😭😂😂
In situations like this I choose the option that makes more people mad.
America doesn't use the Imperial system, they use the US customary measurement system. Which is the reason why they don't have Stone as that is Imperial.
cope
I’m from the US and any document I’m saving where the date is important I always save it year/month/day. I’m not a linguist but except for holidays like Cinco de Mayo and the Fourth of July we generally say the month first and the then the day. “When’s your birthday?” “May 22nd.”
An ounce is the equivalent of grams and fluid ounce is the equivalent of liters. The only time they are really the same is water mostly because a pint of water is 1 lb(16oz) as well as 16(fl oz). Also the easiest conversion for metric to imperial is fluid ounces(30ml is 1 fl oz)
Let's be real one is more popular and widely used, much more precise and accurate. And the other, is old news
Precision units vs 'Freedom units'
PSI pounds per square inch is still a thing in the USA. They use it a lot for air pressure.
I am a full-on metric user, but I genuinely believe that imperial system is actually more intuitive for measurements, WHEN
1) you don't have a precise measurement tool, and
2) just want to make an educated guess about the dimensions of something, without caring too much about the absolute accuracy.
The advantage imperial system has, I think, lies in the usage of fractions using easily divisible bases.
In my opinion, another thing I like about imperial weight and temperature is that it just seems to capture scale a little bit better. 37 Celsius just doesnt sound that crazy but 100 Fahrenheit is like, oh damn its hot outside, as an example. Or when discussing day to day human weight or gym weight it just seems a little easier to define in my head how much something weighs.
@@shps8609 I mean, food is a day to day thing and 100 degrees = boiling and 0 degrees = frozen seem like far more intuitive benchmarks to me than 0 degrees = the freezing point of a solution of brine and 100 = human body temperature.
But honestly the best part of metric is that it is interchangeable around water. 1 litre is equal to one kilogram of water, which is also a cube of 10 centimetres per side. It allows you to use a scale to measure volume of most liquids, and ballpark most other things that are close enough, figure out roughly how much space you'd need for 2000 bottles of soda or 5 tons of flour or whatever. Good luck figuring out how many pounds to the gallon off the top of your head, or how much weight is in a full load of dirt in the back of a truck.
Like the reason we spell certain words different (like color vs colour) I feel like printing costs has something to do with it because October 30th vs the 30th of October it's clear which would use less ink.
How about... 30th Oct :D
Everyone still know's what you mean
That spelling thing is a myth. The reason America spells words differently is due to two reasons. One we're copying the French word that some words came form, but the British wanted to be special so they changed it for some reason. And two that's how it was always spelled then the British changed for some reason. Amarican English is probably more like early modern English then the British equivalent.
The most rediculous place to use the imperial system is in an airplane. "We're now 20.000 feet above the ground!" Yeah great! The very last thing I would measure with my foot is the height of an airplane!!
Feet is one of the few imperial units I can handle because it's almost exactly 0,3m
My grandpa is a retired pilot and it always confused me when he speaks about hight in feet. In our country we only use metric but for some bizarre reason feet are used to measure how high a plane is flying.
It's like how the thickness of wood planks is always measured in inches despite the fact that every other thing in carpentry is measured in centimeters.
Thrown in knots (nautical miles per hour, yeah those are a thing) for airspeed and whether if it's indicated or true airspeed, which is also a function of altitude above ground in feet. Can't believe pilots do these calculations in their heads.
Isn’t that from one of Lieven Scheire’s shows? Whoaaaa-
@@axelprino copied from quora -
"In aviation, why is altitude always measured in feet?
“Legacy” is your answer in reality. But pilots are a bit like fisherman, which makes it fun actually (the retired guys all hanging out in a hanger telling tall tales of that “worst crosswind landing in Petoski, Michigan in ‘78, I tell you I was crabbing SIDEWAYS…” So I’ve heard so funny ones about this very subject. But theirs are far more exciting than reality.
So the simple truth is, because of the proliferation of American and British aircraft during the early years of aviation, and the explosion in aviation in the United States after World War II, the imperial foot became the international standard for altitude measurement. China (PRC), North Korea, and, until 2017, Russia (they’ve completed the transition to feet I have read; I haven’t actually been there and witnessed it, my firm has a private jet, and in 2013, they were metric still), however, use meters for altitude measurement.
The altimeters in my firm’s Gulfstream G650ER are all calibrated in feet, but the already highly-advanced Gulfstream Plainview™️ II avionics in our jet have been upgraded to the best possible software. So for my pilots when we are flying into pain in the ass holdout China, they tap a few times on a touchscreen and the all glass cockpit (aviation term for the former analog gauges have been replaced but multiple LCD flatscreen monitors, hence easy to tap a touchscreen and your now seeing everything in meters.
For most aircraft still flying with analog gauges, when flying into metric airspace, we use a simple conversion card on a clipboard. When Shanghai Control clears us to descend to 3600 meters, we check the card and descend to the equivalent: 11,800 feet. And yes, I went up front on a colleagues older jet to watch the process in action - yikes. I’m an experienced private pilot (I got my private pilots license on my 17th birthday, it’s a passion!), certified on my Piper Cheyenne 400 LS twin turboprop to fly solo (as far as private aircraft she’s big, seats nine plus two up front, mine is configured for 6 with some luxuries, and it is still the fastest production twin turboprop to ever roll off an assembly line). And I fly out of Teterboro Airport, 11 miles from Manhattan, so I take off and land in some of the busiest airspace on earth. Add in millions in retrofits and upgrades, and she is not the simplest aircraft to fly, to say the least. My point is that I understand quite well what’s going on up front while I watched that descent and approach.
During rush hour at airports like Shanghai and Beijing, the controllers rattle off clearances very fast. They will often assign my crew a heading, speed and metric altitude all in one shot. Well, in the jet with the analog gauges, the metric altitude conversion adds an additional task to an already challenging environment. I will say those guys were great - never said a word but never broke a sweat. You stay on our toes in metric airspace!
i apologize for the rather verbose too complete answer, but obviously flying is a passion and I love discussing it and imparting some info when I can. So it’s an Yank/Brit legacy that almost every nation uses feet for altitude measurements, and bring your handy conversion charts for China and of course those trips to North Korea!
Let me know if you have any questions. I attached a pic of our “glass cockpit” just so you can see why the avionics are not so customizable. Indeed the COOLEST thing ever to a nerd like me was when our flight computer’s “voice” began calling out our altitude in meters as well…instead of the usual “100 feet…” I got metes (my system stops saying feet of meters under 100, so when landing it’s “50….40….20….10….” - meters would be irritating at that stage."
I live in Canada, everything here is officially calculated in Metric. I work in construction, when a concrete truck pulls up to pour, his manifest says how many cubic meters he is carrying, wood is delivered by the centimeter, weight is normally by kilograms. But once it gets on the site, carpenters cut according to the blueprints which are based on certain standards that although metric is still used it conforms with lengths that are in Imperial.
A carpenter will cut wood so that it is 10 feet long as that is the height of one storey in Canada - go figure
4:00
Month scrolls stop at 12.
When manually inputing, they usually tell you the format mm/dd/yyyy.
But it's America. Home of the, "fuck Europe. We do things our way and don't even try to tell us what to do or how to do it."
Just blame the British, it was their system first.
@@Notiravgsarah then changed, realising there was a better system
as an engineering student in the US we have to know how to use both. everyone wants to use SI and most tests are in SI but we are still expected to know how to use imperial. sometimes some values are not even governed by "convertion factors" so when a formula has a value based on experimental data its a different formula for imperial
Please, Connor, remember where your microphone is. Sometimes, it gets a little hard to hear you (and if I turn up my volume any more, I'll jump whenever Joey or Garnt suddenly jump in loudly)
4th of July is the only exception! You say December 25th, September 11, and the list goes on 😭
"Imagin being below six feet"
Me who's literally at 69 inches or 5'9 and a half inch(175 cm) :
AMATEURS
**laughs menacingly in culture**
Measuring those Yu-Gi-Oh cards on a food scale to see if it's a foil was super popular back in the day lol
I like how they answer the question themselves. The only problem with the American date system is not putting the year first. Then everything would just work. We just do it lazy like Connor is saying, but as ordered like Garnt said. You never sort anything by day of the month, but you still get to be lazy for 365 days until the next year.
Imperial is dumb though.
2:34
American Addresses are usually put in this format
[Numbers] [Street Name] [Ave, St., Blvd, Etc] [Direction (N,S,E,W)]
Edit: Apartment Numbers are always after the Address itself.
In Canada.... we are mixed between imperial and metricin a way that makes no sense to the outside.
It's insanity, so I just do like Connor and stubbornly use metric until some starts asking me to convert.
Buildings, People, and Cooking Imperial
Everything else Metric
That said when referencing speed I use MPH and Km/h depending on the subject
Fun fact about Canada, we are the only developed country that uses all three date systems in official documentations (YY/MM/DD, MM/DD/YY, and DD/MM/YY, though the last one is the most popular one).
@@MySingerlover documents must be a nightmare
@@warcrimes390 It is. I don't know about other countries, but they almost always specify which date system to use to avoid confusion. If no specification (rare), we use DD/MM/YY and pray that it's the right one. Aside from government documents, most documents allowed me to just use name date instead (ie. Nov 29, 2021).
MM/DD/YYYY
Month is first, when organizing files in a filing cabinet, especially in companies/retail. month is important.
Then day is like a sub-unit of month, so you look in that months folder to find the documents from the day you are trying to find.
year is at the end, cus usually the documents you need are right there, usually in a 90-120 day context. So in reality year isnt as important which is why it is on the end.
Once again, Britain started it, just like with calling football soccer. We just stuck with it. It makes sense both ways imo, so it’s all semantics. But we use both formats for declaration of date: “MM DD” and “the DD of MM”. For semantics sake, our format is quicker to say and write (month then day).
Japan’s method doesn’t make sense to me, the year changes way slower, so putting it last actually makes sense to me.
In general, every format has their benefits.
And the whole metric vs imperial thing, anyone in stem mostly uses metric, so again we’re like our UK brethren.
I mean, you are technically correct (in some regards) but I wouldn't consider that a useful argument. I believe that there is more merit in converting to a universal standard. Simply because it drastically decreases the chances of miss understandings and errors in comunication. Like, saving hours in time cause you dont have to keep converting between systems. Or having a rocket that costs hundreds of millions of dollars exploding, or planes crashing, or satellites crashing, or cars crashing.
I just think that, in the long run as the world becomes even more interconnected than it already is, the problems caused by these confusing systems will escalate. Or the programs and systems needed to automatically convert units will become ubiquitous.
In the same way that using the dollar as the global standard for international trade, and how the GMT/UTC system for time made it insanely easier to coordinate between time zones. (Even if daylight savings makes it harder than neccessary for no reason whatsoever).
Also metric all the way. Also I feel like within Japan, it has a lot more to do with how they still don't use computer systems to organize everything so much easier. Like, in my uni, we've used DD/MM/YYYY for over a decade now because the computers automatically organize things into years for us and directry systems make finding the physical locations of files stupid easy that even first years can do it.
Yee, what he said mate :v
they are complaining about day, month, year order while i am here using Minute:Hour:Seconds AM/PM for my clock
What is really frustrating about the imperial system is that it forced us engineering students to be able to solve sciences using both the metric and imperial system. We would even need to memorize the constant for conversion. Just the sheer amount of constants you need to memorize is frustrating enough, then you need to memorize a new formula for imperial (though the formula is technically the same as metric, the constants are different so it's just a pain).
What i hate most Is that my engineering classmates dont h8 imperial as much as they should xd 🤣
In the US we did switch to metric for engine displacement in the 70s.
As a chemist working in America, while….I am very familiar with the metric system, you just never learn anything about how to convert BETWEEN imperial and metric. Like….I can tell you roughly how big of a pile of salt weighing 10 grams is, but I can’t say “oh, that’s also 0.35 oz “. Also, weirdly enough, things like Liters we actually do have a decent grasp on because in America the most common large size of sodas you can buy is a “two liter bottle”. So if you ever need to tell anyone in America the size of a liter, just say “half of a big soda bottle”
Edit: trust me, most Americans agree the metric system is better, but….until all the road signs and weight and measurements you encounter in daily life change accordingly, it’s never gonna change. The infrastructure changing is the most important thing to lead to the adoption of a new system like that.
Doing molar calculations in oz or something must be really fun...
@@_Ekaros it's pretty much never ever done. Luckily the science community realized that it would be hell and it's all pretty much standardized to be grams and moles and nothing else. However, there obviously was that famous lunar probe that failed due to American components being incorrectly constructed using imperial specs rather than metric. Probably the single most expensive fuck up of unit conversion in history. That's why today there's an even bigger emphasis on the science community all agreeing on the same rules and guidleines.
In a postal system you need the street number and street name first. Machines sort them down to city and route number so the carrier needs to see the number and street first. Some people do say July 4th or March 10(Mario). The old imperial system is a lot better for doing things by hand. Inch is a Norman adult knuckle , foot is obvious, yard is a normal adult stride for stepping out distance. Chains and rods are easier to use in fields. Everything in imperial has purpose unlike metric that just uses base10
Metric makes math easier but imperial system has a basis in reality. Index fingertip is around an inch. Your foot is around a foot long. A yard is the distance on a six foot tall person probably around fingertip to shoulder. Metric is great for people who need to do math regarding large measurements but imperial is great if you're just an average person needing to measure something without any means of measurement around.
That and all carpentry is done in imperial. A saw blade width is exactly 1/8inch
Plywood sheets are measured by the 1/8inch
Wall studs are exactly 1.5"×3.5"
Sheathing is always 4'×8'
Because its all in fractions its very easy math to do in your head. By powers of 10 it would be downright insane.
Except the size of people varies a lot, is not the same a inch of a todler than some body builder.
@@WheresTheSauce Not really, for example a fourth of 10 would 2.5.
@@nidohime6233 Of course, but it's still useful because on average it's kind of close. Definitely not exact but useful.
Metric is constructed with fundamental constant, metric is the one founded in reality
Reason for month/day/year is because when communicating over phone/radio in the old days it was quicker and easier to relay information like it’s quicker to say March 5th than the 5th of March
I say day-month-year or year-month-day are both acceptable options, because theres a logical order of scale there, small to big or big to small.
If you HAVE to put the month before the day, you stick that year in front of it, or you gtfo.
As for metric vs imperial, fuck imperial, get that shit out of here and I dont even know where stones fit in.
Metric all the way.
Thank god we don’t have to listen to you.
finally someone with some common sense
I mean, it kinda does ascend numerically. 12 total months, 28-31 total days, infinite years.
2:09 - but if you organize files on a computer by date then they go in the correct order. This only applies if you NAME the file based on the date then organize by the file name.
another day im grateful i was born in the eu so i have no idea about any imperial units.
"astrology with extra steps" oh no 🤣🤣
As an American engineer, this video speaks to me greatly
You know there's multiple tons, with different spellings?
There's the metric tonne, then the imperial ton, the short and long tons and finally a tun. Tun is just an old weight meant to represent a specific barrel size, and I'm pretty sure its only use is in pub signs in the modern day.
Metric is superior to imperial in every way.
It is extremely accurate, globally used, provides a logical numbering system (0C is freezing, 100C is boiling), and uses increments of 100 to provide fast calculations and estimations.
Every scientist uses metric for good reason. Why USA is so fixated on the imperial boggles me.
You're telling me I'm supposed to think 30°C sounds hotter than 90°F for the weather? Fahrenheit is far superior for the weather and I'm tired of people pretending it's not!
As someone in USA myself, I also have no idea why. 😂🤦♂️
@@keithtestaverde3712 What lmao Metric is better for weather. 0 C is when water freezes. So anything below that you can expect ice or snow. -30 C is cold. +30 C is hot. It's way better than an arbitrary system
Because we live perfectly fine with imperial and don't need to change it
@@Ash_Wen-li Yeah but why base our scale on water? If we want a true 0 than just use Kelvin, no real chemist uses Celsius. Scientifically, Kelvin is the most accurate. Fahrenheit temperatures makes sense for weather. If it's cold its cold and if it's hot it's hot, we should use the correct scale to reflect that. 90 sounds hot and 30 sounds cold on a scale on 100, which is about the hottest it gets on Earth. What, it's too difficult to remember that 212 is boiling and 32 is freezing? Why is it important for 0 to be freezing and 100 boiling? Do you think about the stove temperature when you boil water?
As an American seasons are very relevant businesses and agriculture
This could be a whole podcast Idea
Imagine keeping all of your files in one directory, rather than sorting them into sub directories by year or such
I fully agree it should be more consistent. We should all go to the imperial system. Honestly, if the most advanced countries use the imperial system then the rest should just adapt
Month first is superior, address first is superior, fight me on this
The Japanese system of putting the year first comes from the Chinese counting system of always putting the largest number/unit first. But I agree with Grant that is probably the most logical way to do it.
The UK system makes sense, but is less practical for sorting documents.
The US system is just silly.
Both, the UK and Japanese system makes sense but the Japanese system is just a bit more straightforward when it's about arranging data, the US's system is very very outdated.
Appearently the dating system used to be that way because it was written out in full. So December 12 1880 for example.since the month was written out t their was no reason to insert it into the center. But as digital clocks started being used it transitioned to numbers without changing formats.
As someone who’s lived in countries with both Celsius and Fahrenheit , Fahrenheit is just better, definitely more accurate for air temps and easier to conceptualize
4th of July is the one day we say the day before the month
181 cm = 5’11
183 cm = 6’0
That means Joey is 5’11 and Garnt is 6’0
Day-Month-Year is the only acceptable one, because most of the time, you don't need to specify the year. If you make an appointment that's only a few days away, then chances are you can just write down "coffee date on the 26th". If it's a bit longer down the road, you write down something like "dentist on the 5th of september" so that is 5/9. And the year you only specify in rare cases. So obviously that comes last.
As an American I'll admit, the metric system is better.
As not an America I’d say putting the month first kind of makes sense because people refer to dates as “November 30th, 2021” not “30th of November, 2021”. Get “of” out of here. Nobody wants to say extra syllables. And that’s how that system was made.
They will never know the pain of studying science in America having to learn both measuring systems
Wait, you're learning both already?
Why not use metric then?
This must be so fucked up man. its already hard enough when you got complicated compound measurements but doing it from SI-units to in Imperial and back is messed up.
@@emcotec1463 what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger lmaoo
@@theramendutchman exactly lol
@@theramendutchman i think that most of the politicians dont bother updating because most of them are lawyers, sociology or history students so they dont understand the hardship you go trough. its the same with seconds and minutes and so on, maybe in some parallel universe the society decided to count 1hour as 100minutes and 1minute as 100 seconds and all messurements finally fall into place perfectly.
One of the worst offenders when learning and then trying to apply engineering is when working with heat and energy, thermodynamics etc and you run into the mothereffin BTU. It's bad enough that we both have joules and watt hours for units of energy, that isn't straightforward to convert between, then there's so much real world stuff that's listed with the goddamn BTU that it's unavoidable if you're working in the field
I just came here to say @ 0:57 , Connor you "Had" Elizabeth not have...
That's all, good day everyone.
day month year is best for everyday use as it goes in an order which prioritizes the things you are least likely to know e.g you're more likely to know the year than the day as the year is a bigger deal and you have more time to learn the year. With this you get the information you want to know faster.
For those wondering, the difference between regular and fluid ounces is what they're measuring
Regular ounces are a measurement of weight (1 pound is 16 ounces)
Fluid ounces are a measurement of volume (1 gallon is 128 fluid ounces)