[2.2] Penacony's Flawed Dream Land - Honkai: Star Rail Lore & Theory

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  • @doveslizleskiss2956
    @doveslizleskiss2956 7 місяців тому +4

    15:40 WHEN YOU POINTED THAT OUT OMGGG I GOT GOOSEBUMPSSSS I NEVER NOTICED

  • @austinmartin612
    @austinmartin612 7 місяців тому +10

    Fun fact. Bosenmori translates roughly to "River of Forgetfulness' Guardian." The "River of Forgetfulness" is a river one must cross in the underworld in Chinese Mythology, where after death one is forced to FORGET everything they knew of their previous life(perhaps why Acheron has trouble with memory). Acheron is also a river in the Greek Mythology underworld. In HSR Acheron fulfills the role of Charon(the ferryman of the rivers Styx and Acheron, guiding souls to their rightful destination. I think "reuniting in the warmth of sunlight" is akin to delivering them unto the Elysian Fields(reference to Elysian Realm of HI3? no idea) rather than to Hades(IX the Nihility). Also if IX is being equated to Hades, then perhaps IX is not as Nihilistic as believed, as Hades was not himself evil, he governed the underworld, though not with malice or intent to destroy, simply did his job because it was his job.

  • @qiningeng5114
    @qiningeng5114 7 місяців тому +8

    One more thing to add blame the Argenti voiceless gameplay on hoyo but its when we defeated him and told him oh Aventurine died go help him so Argenti got himself "killed" picked Aventurine up " unkille" themself woke up and flew back to reality where everyone woke up vry nice to say the least

    • @Rainthority
      @Rainthority  7 місяців тому +1

      Argenti, the unsung hero. Or should I say, the unvoiced hero? 😆

    • @qiningeng5114
      @qiningeng5114 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Rainthority both Hoyo muted him and Boothill justice for both 😔

  • @garethcf1016
    @garethcf1016 7 місяців тому +3

    When the first half of penacony mirrors the elysian realm arc, with all the "whodunnit?" Stuff, and the 2nd half mirrors the finality arc, dreanworld and everything. Hi3rd osts being played and the references to the HI3rd moments when mei hrabs kianas hand in lament of the fallen and graduation trip. Hi3rd knowledge srsly elevated this story so much for those who know

    • @guillermocervisalmeron2209
      @guillermocervisalmeron2209 7 місяців тому

      Those arcs are connected or something?

    • @garethcf1016
      @garethcf1016 7 місяців тому +2

      @@guillermocervisalmeron2209 yeah actually. ER arc leads directly into finality arc, the same way penacony's story is structured

  • @strgz5329
    @strgz5329 7 місяців тому +3

    14:58 also Dan Hung wit hBootyhill got offered soul glad in "reality" while waiting for black swan iirc

    • @7PebblesReported
      @7PebblesReported 7 місяців тому +3

      Yeah but we can take some stuff out of the dreamscape
      Firefly said that
      Thats also the reason we can take food bought in the dreamscape in reality

    • @Rainthority
      @Rainthority  7 місяців тому +3

      I thought that could be it, but the specific soulglad that Firefly mentioned was called "Epochal SoulGlad." Not sure if they renamed it to "original soulglad" which was what's sold at the reality bar. Either way, that wasn't a solid enough proof to me.

  • @sebay4654
    @sebay4654 4 місяці тому +1

    The only way I could have accepted the false reality was if for example the explanation of the herta wasnt cancelling the simulated universe project the moment i heard that i went no way in heck would she ever even think that, Temporarily pausing it not To help penacony but to directly investigate the attempted resurrection of an Aeon and focusing the stimulated universe on penacony specifically Trying to simulate a world where that succeeded now that i can definitely see, but cancelling the simulated universe is something i can never see Herta doing and was the moment I went from this feels Sus to yep definitely sus

    • @Rainthority
      @Rainthority  4 місяці тому +1

      They really put it there to test our knowledge about Herta. Herta ditching her current obsession to help the betterment of a world? Yep, that's not my Herta alright.

    • @sebay4654
      @sebay4654 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Rainthorityyeah their is no Universe where I can see Herta quitting the simulated universe at most redirecting it's simulation target to penacony is what I can see happening

  • @Jacethederg
    @Jacethederg 7 місяців тому +1

    5:15 I thought that Deng Hung IL was an emanator of the aeon Long? despite being so he is the path of destruction.

    • @austinmartin612
      @austinmartin612 7 місяців тому +3

      Dan Feng might've been but remember that power that Dan Feng had is now split between Dan Heng and Bailu

    • @pokemonmaster1505
      @pokemonmaster1505 7 місяців тому +8

      No, the Vidyadhara are "scions of permanence" basically, a race created by Long. Dan Heng IL is the reincarnation of the Luofu Vidyadhara High Elder.

  • @7PebblesReported
    @7PebblesReported 7 місяців тому +3

    I wonder where sunday robin and acheron are after the quest
    The clockie event happens after the quest right so we know that sparkle is still in penacony those 3 we dont know what are they doing

    • @austinmartin612
      @austinmartin612 7 місяців тому +2

      Go back to the start of the theater area, first teleport point, then walk straight down the hall toward the stage area, you'll get a text message, should start to answer at least a little of that.

  • @qq1176
    @qq1176 7 місяців тому

    Loveeee these videos omg

  • @austinmartin612
    @austinmartin612 7 місяців тому +11

    Why do people keep saying Jing Yuan is NOT an Emanator of the Hunt, it's like one the first things I remember when I think of the Xianzhou, that he IS an Emanator, he's been referred to as such, so why is it just dismissed outright?

    • @Rainthority
      @Rainthority  7 місяців тому +7

      Because it's not clear. The LL is bestowed to the Generals, and Jingyuan is in the possession of one only because he is one of the current generals. But the generals aren't chosen by Lan, and there's no mention of Jingyuan receiving Lan's gaze. Also, from Dan Heng IL's char story, the avatar of Lan is described as enveloped in golden lightning, which perfectly describes the LL. The LL might be the Emanators themselves.

    • @btkchaosreaperj.c7642
      @btkchaosreaperj.c7642 7 місяців тому +2

      It says on the Story that he is

  • @latenter1428571
    @latenter1428571 7 місяців тому

    I was confused by that second ending. It was much better than the first one but still. The answer to the question from MC was.. strange to say the least. Ok, maybe it meant something to him that only he can understand but why did these words hit Sunday's feelings?
    We still learned nothing about Stellaron. Firefly wasn't fighting with us and she still should die for the third time somehow. Or did she die third time already? But for what?
    And most important question. We saw the second flashforward and there was Black Swan at the end, we still didn't come to that point. And it was very similar to the moment when we were teleported from the battle between Acheron and Sam. So does that mean the fight against Sunday was actually before that battle? I'm pretty sure we're still in a dream. Or else this is just some nonsense.
    P.S. Sparkle was just an NPC doing nothing this whole time?

  • @qiningeng5114
    @qiningeng5114 7 місяців тому

    I like to point out the blessing Ena gave is too ensure the species she protected, ironic Aventurine is Gay so it wont ever work! (headcannon as gay but comeon) but Aventurine having children will be cute