For info on the composition and the process behind you can read Xenakis book Formalized Music but in short the composer recorded sounds of burning wood etc then used a process of granular synthesis to create this sounds I hope it helps a bit. cheers!!!!
The piece is dated 1958. The granular synthesis techniques (together with all other digital synthesis techniques) is still so far from being created (first digital implementation will be made from Berry Truax and Curtis Roads around 70s). Xenakis was one of the first composer to think about sounds as big assemblages of small sound-units, but his pieces (especially this one) were not made with the use of granular synthesis.
@@edoardomariabellucci4238 He did it on tape, but his theoretical texts from the 70s already use the term granular synthesis for this procedure. It predates computation and real-time implementations like those of Truax.
Sólo por curiosidad se me ocurrió leer sobre la Música Concreta y mencionaban a esta persona. Acabo de oirlo por primera vez y me encanta. Gracias por compartir esto con el.mundo.
Yeah man! I did the same thing. I was fortunate to be working as a "classical music host" for my college radio station (WSVC) and I played pieces like this on my program. "Sweetmeat Cool" had many more listeners than I, ya know what I'm sayin...
Xenakis was discredited for the design of the Philips Pavilion for which it was composed for and originally played in as well. Although it was usual for Le Corbusier to take credit for the work of his pupils, Xenakis did not give in and finally parted after too many disagreements. Check any source in literature about the Philips Pavilion or Xeankis, its definitely his composition. Furthermore, a piece as such would not necessarily be Varese's style, which makes it unlikely to be his composition.
I'm a bit mystified by your comments here, but I'm going on a memory that is almost 50 years old - I first heard this in 1962 or thereabouts and the composer was identified as Varese. Took me a while to locate the LP upon which it appeared but I seem to remember it saying that this was a Varese piece as well. I'll be looking for information about it but I did want to thank you for posting this piece and in such good quality.
I'm not deny that it's art or that it doesn't hold value. but why do people treat this guy like a genius for just recording nature things. It's not very impressive.
This is actually not a nature recording. Quite the opposite: Xenakis synthesized a vast amount of single sounds to arrive at this "mass" result, which - as correctly you pointed out - resemble similar natural sounds. That being said, I don't think we could hear that with natural means.
For info on the composition and the process behind you can read Xenakis book Formalized Music but in short the composer recorded sounds of burning wood etc then used a process of granular synthesis to create this sounds I hope it helps a bit. cheers!!!!
The piece is dated 1958. The granular synthesis techniques (together with all other digital synthesis techniques) is still so far from being created (first digital implementation will be made from Berry Truax and Curtis Roads around 70s). Xenakis was one of the first composer to think about sounds as big assemblages of small sound-units, but his pieces (especially this one) were not made with the use of granular synthesis.
Yeah, cause you can easily read It lol
@@edoardomariabellucci4238Xenakis is known for inventing the technique and was using it as early as 1956
@@edoardomariabellucci4238 He did it on tape, but his theoretical texts from the 70s already use the term granular synthesis for this procedure.
It predates computation and real-time implementations like those of Truax.
Musical pointillism. Love it.
Is not pointillism is granular synthesis...
Cool soundscape! Thanks for sharing.
So beautiful, thank you for the upload.
Sólo por curiosidad se me ocurrió leer sobre la Música Concreta y mencionaban a esta persona. Acabo de oirlo por primera vez y me encanta. Gracias por compartir esto con el.mundo.
Isabel Veidt Con gusto. Gracias por comentar!
Yeah man! I did the same thing. I was fortunate to be working as a "classical music host" for my college radio station (WSVC) and I played pieces like this on my program. "Sweetmeat Cool" had many more listeners than I, ya know what I'm sayin...
What a great abstract sound.. nice!
wow, never knew that about him that's wild. thanks for teaching me something today
great description, thank you
Xenakis was discredited for the design of the Philips Pavilion for which it was composed for and originally played in as well. Although it was usual for Le Corbusier to take credit for the work of his pupils, Xenakis did not give in and finally parted after too many disagreements.
Check any source in literature about the Philips Pavilion or Xeankis, its definitely his composition. Furthermore, a piece as such would not necessarily be Varese's style, which makes it unlikely to be his composition.
This is what it sounds like when my brain de-frags itself at night
I'm a bit mystified by your comments here, but I'm going on a memory that is almost 50 years old - I first heard this in 1962 or thereabouts and the composer was identified as Varese. Took me a while to locate the LP upon which it appeared but I seem to remember it saying that this was a Varese piece as well. I'll be looking for information about it but I did want to thank you for posting this piece and in such good quality.
Xenakis est vraiment l'un des plus grands musiciens du XXe siècle.
Agreed...at least, one of my favorites, along with Stockhausen.
Very satisfying.
Obviously, it is raining glass in a flaming Radio Shack that is sinking into the earth.
Obviously! ;)
still love it!!
It sounds like a waterfall of plastic forks.
Ha. ha. plastic forks couldn't produce those high frequencies...
one of the earliest granular music.
I really like this piece, thank you for posting it! Could also anyone tell me, what painting this one is? thanks
burning embers - there's a lesson there
True.
it's like you're really hearing the pop
no to me it sounds like electronic components set on fire or frying you know like Diodes and chips set on fire
...not quite; too many lower & loud frequencies would be generated. Anyway, for your comment: ha. ha.
geniusz
akurat namy sie tutaj nie spodziewałem
i would imagine the name 'concret' is more related to 'musique concrete' than brutalism .. no matter what his background
proto granular synthesis
intredasting
so many breaking glasses
It's burning coal!
music school brought me here
qui est la grace a Mr Paret du college jean lacaze ?
I'm not deny that it's art or that it doesn't hold value. but why do people treat this guy like a genius for just recording nature things. It's not very impressive.
Tristan Hedge These are not "nature things" and that's not why he is held in high regard.
He's not just recording nature things, he is manipulating/altering nature things then manipulating/altering the recordings.
This is actually not a nature recording. Quite the opposite: Xenakis synthesized a vast amount of single sounds to arrive at this "mass" result, which - as correctly you pointed out - resemble similar natural sounds. That being said, I don't think we could hear that with natural means.