Gaggia Classic Pro Vs Breville Bambino
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- Breville Bambino vs Gaggia classic pro
this was quite the battle of two well liked espresso machines and its really a coin toss on which one is better to be honest but at the end of the day we are sticking with the breville to bring with us when we go on long trips and travel back home.
Breville bambino plus (can't find the non plus on amazon - amzn.to/3wcFP6S
accessories
tamper / distributor amzn.to/3CLw1Dm
bottomless portafilter amzn.to/2ZTEvtN
single wall basket amzn.to/3mF3UA8
Gaggia classic pro
tamper / distributor amzn.to/31djPgv
Gaggia Classic Pro amzn.to/39B5coT
IMS nano coated filter basket amzn.to/3dyQgZy
Libra coffee scale amzn.to/3ps114i
my current espresso bar setup
Lelit Bianca
sette 270wi amzn.to/374c0JR
IMS nano coated filter basket amzn.to/3dyQgZy
Libra coffee scale amzn.to/3ps114i
Tamper distributor amzn.to/2Q0rk52
Under Cabinet stick on smart light strip amzn.to/2SK6cBT
Smart plug (homekit, google home, Alexa) amzn.to/2TTwUb4
Fellow Espresso Cups amzn.to/3zN6Izm
cappuccino cups amzn.to/3zMU1Vx
Gaggia classic pro setup
V V V V V V V V
Gaggia Classic Pro amzn.to/39B5coT
IMS nano coated filter basket amzn.to/3dyQgZy
Tamper distributor amzn.to/2Q0rk52
Libra coffee scale amzn.to/3ps114i
Barista Express setup
v v v v v v v v v v v v v v
Breville Barista Express amzn.to/2FQS9E4
Libra coffee scale amzn.to/3ps114i
Tamper / distributer amzn.to/2HmhshG
Bottomless portafilter amzn.to/3jd52pr
The bottomless portafilter says 3month delivery I got mine in two weeks
Dosing funnel amzn.to/35fcqM1
Knock box amzn.to/2KFfESE
items not to buy based on my reviews:
Delonghi La Specialista
Dark Horse Coffee dark roast
Keurig
Calphalon temp iq with grinder
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chapters
00:30 intro
00:31 basic overview
06:19 milk steaming comparison
07:45 espresso tasting
10:00 final thoughts
This is the video iv3 been waiting for!Thank you
Glad I could help you out
I am 100% in agreement with you. I have had Gaggia Classics for many many years (was on my 3rd). I got the Breville Bambino to save some money and was shocked at how great the shot I pulled was. I mean straight out of the box with very little trial and error - and even with the cheap portafilter. I was gob smacked.
Yeah it’s a surprisingly good machine
@@JoeyVaracalli the shock after tasting it was so fun to watch 😂
This was a very good comparison, especially because both machines produced coffee that was grinded from the same grinder. Well done!
Thanks louis I appreciate the kind comments glad this was helpful for u
Not a true comparison since he's already modified the Gaggia. The comparison should be with the two as they are out of the box.
Thanks for the review. Just picked up my bambino yesterday. It’s a lot of fun to play with so far.
Yeah it’s a great little machine for the money. Get yourself a tamper and maybe a single wall basket and you will have some really incredible espresso
@@JoeyVaracalli Lol! Waiting impatiently for the package in the mail. Thanks
@@russ4AGE very nice
I think the new bambino now has more stuff, 4 baskets. 2 single and 2 double walled. With a milk jug.
I've had Gagia and Silvia but never liked them. Got rid of them both and now own a Bambino Plus. This (to me) is a far superior machine with way more consistency than I could ever get with those previous 2 mentioned machines.
Yeah I can agree with you it’s definitely more consistent since it has a pid and it’s more forgiving because the 54mm portafilter
As soon as you did the back stepping in like jane lynch on role models i immediately smiled ear to ear and smashed that like button!! 5 seconds in and im hooked haha
Classic movie
This is very helpful
Always kind words s and v thanks
Thanks Joey! Thinking about upgrading to a Gaggia Classic Pro, thought about the Bambino but definitely gonna go with the Gaggia
Yeah the gaggia is more of a hobbiest machine for sure if your very into coffee and like tinkering it can be better then the bambino. If you just want reasonably consist shots without as much effort the bambino is probably better.
@@JoeyVaracalli do you think the Gaggia has a longer life span too? The Bambino seemed a lot “cheaper” to me
@@J2DuoMusic yeah I mentioned that in the review saying if you want a machine that will last longer and repairable go with the gaggia
@@J2DuoMusic the Gaggia will last far longer than a Bambino and will have easier accessibility to replacement parts while being easier to repair at home as well.
Finally u need to sacrifice something to another in sub 500 machines. Either life span, or shot taste. Or.... Gaggia with mods and pain in bot to do mods are way over priced machine which at the end with unconsistancy causes bambino shot to win in this review. I think it's the time for ppl to revise their mindset on Gaggia!
The Bambino sure is an impressive little machine. As a beginner I just don't feel like tinkering around with the Gaggia with the OPV and PID since it will add to the cost and void the warranty.
The 54mm also seems a more beginner friendly thing to have and I mostly wanna practice latte art and try pulling good shots.
Was hesitating between the Bambino and Lelit Anna / Anita but I got mine on sale for 160$ and plan to use the savings in a Sette 270 or Eureka Mignon.
Really excited for it to arrive, great vid ty 🙌
Very good glad you have started the journey just make sure to pick up a non pressurized porta filter basket
@@JoeyVaracalli Of course ! Thanks for the reminder. I think the EU version comes with non-pressurized baskets too. Proper tamper, WDT and bottomless portafilter :D all set. Ty again!
@@KrazyShark yeah if your in Europe it comes with a non pressurized basket
Very good video Joe. I had always thought Breville machines are very capable for "appliance grade" machine.
Yeah they are pretty good units honestly
I have the sage bambino , it come with 4 baskets, single or double dose , but i bought IMS baskets ,a big improvement in espresso on this machine, less resistance so I can go more finer with grinder .
That’s awesome I wish the one in the states came with all that
hey, great video! I have the same portafilter for the bambino and I have an issue with it where it can turn it all the way to the right if I wanted to. Does this mean it's not locking in correctly? I don't have any leaks or anything but it just bugs me. Usually portafilters don't go past 90 degrees. Do you have the same issue?
I do not have the same issues but if it’s making a deal you should be good
Great comparison and many thanks. Calphalon temp iq with grinder is in your do not buy list, do you recommend one without grinder? I do have a good grinder. Love to hear your opinion on this.
Yeah the one without grinder would be better for sure but if your loooking for a cheap option I’d go bambino before calphalon if you have the option
Why use a portafilter upgrade, but use the stock tampers !?
It would be interesting to do the tests either with the original equipments or with a quality portafilter and tamper!
Well the original portafilter on the the bambino only comes with a dual wall basket in the USA also I like to show people the extraction so bottomless is kinda nice way of doing it
Nice review. I have bambino. Super happy. How did you remove the plastic from portafilter?
I actually don’t recommend that any more since coffee will wear out the cheap aluminum they use for this my recommendation is to get a bottomless or buy the one that comes with the barista express or pro
Here in Australia the Bambino is around A$250 cheaper.
Hi Joey, although I am not interested in either of these machines (I have the Rocket Mozzafiato Timer International R) but watched out of interest in your style of presentation. I think you do an awesome job of explaining the features and are very articulate in doing so. You are much better that Dylan (too dramatic for me and has a photo bomb wife as well) and even in my opinion better that Hoon. My all time favorite is James Kaufman so far. Good luck with your future videos and I will be watching whenever possible.
Wow roger that is super super kind of you. I’m actually personal friends with Dylan and hoon so I won’t tell them lol 😂 but I really appreciate the kind comments and will try to keep up the pace and keep getting better at quality and reviews
Agreed ! Dylan needs to soften up. Lol
@@timothyj1706 “what’s up UA-cam”
@@timothyj1706 whos dylan
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Joe I know you said you don’t like hot espresso on plastic and I agree, so my question is what about the internals of the machine? Does hot water pump through plastic tubing on these machines? Thank you
I haven’t seen much plastic tubing I have seen the clear rubbery feeling tubing but I think that stuff is safer. If you need all metal u got get an e61
Nice video. Can the PID increase the steam pressure in Gaggia?
The pressure can if you change it higher but honestly you can just time it when it hits 300+ and you will be good
Great video Joe, really like the bambino for my first entry into home espresso.
Yeah it’s a great little machine for the price just make sure you get a better tamper and a non pressured basket and you’ll be good
@@JoeyVaracalli which basket and portafilter did you get?
@@richardwieczorek6624 I have links in my Description for all the accessories I have ;)
More need to watch this
Wow thank you for the extremely nice comment
What are the odds you put this out 2 days before the day that I delve into espresso machines. Thank you for this - these are the exact two that I am considering. I think the Bambino - with its lower price and smaller footprint - wins for me. Could you tell me what replacement portafilter you bought for that one?
Yeah amzn.to/3EOx9qk if you look in the description I have all the accessories I use
You should do dome more research. If you're new to espresso, you would do yourself a service picking up even a used classic over the bambino for the 58mm basket size alone.
@@AnonYmous-wf1oz definitely not new to espresso I agree 58mm is better I said that in the review
@@JoeyVaracalli my bad. Wasn't replying to you but the original commenter who stated he was new to espresso.
@@AnonYmous-wf1oz ohhh lol I was gonna say I thought I said that in the review lol
I'm eyeing up the Gaggia Classic Pro. Either of these machines would be a huge upgrade from my entry level Delonghi.
Yeah delonghi makes good looking machine but functionally they are a bit to be desired. I will say they make a good super automatic though
Some of the older Gaggia Classics have the 3 way solenoid valve and an allen wrench adjustable OPV valve.
@@AnonYmous-wf1oz ohhh wow that’s very cool did not know that
quite misleading info. Breville Bambino is heated by Thermojet and not Thermoblock. Bambino is stainless steel made, only the dip tray and water tanks are plastic.
How can I do my preinfusion on the Gaggia manually?
Yeah open the steam valve while pulling a shot. You will have to put a cup under the steam wand as water comes out but it’s a good way of doing it. Down side is the boiler is small so u can my do much more then three seconds without sacrificing temperature loss
@@JoeyVaracalli Thanks for your fast reply! It was so speedy, I think I got whiplash!
@@barbaralyons9037 yeah I think of them as texts and an open conversation with all my subscribers
i was surprised , you were able to remove plastic portafilter insert ! how ? please explain how ..... I made the mistake of buying the bambino . it has horribly, weak pump .
Hmmm i feel like the pump was set to high actually but I used a pair of need nose pliers and a knife to pull it out. If I’m being honest I would just buy after market
@@JoeyVaracalli are you saying you broke the plastic insert ?
@@milovacc1195 no it pulled out by gripping it with pliers. Or you can put a metal object “stick through the holes a use a hammer to t as p it out as well
@@JoeyVaracalli i made 4 people read this , no one could figure it out ..... could you make 60 second video ?
@@milovacc1195 he literally told you he just pulled it out with a pair of pliers and a knife. Just physically remove it.
hi
between gaggia classic pro and bezzera new hobby, witch one is better?
Probably the brezzerà but it’s reasonably close
@@JoeyVaracalli bezzera hobby is better than breville bambino plus in quality espresso?
@@mr_knight4701 that’s a very good question. I think it’s probably easier to use but the bezzera if you learn it well can probably make better shots of espresso
@@JoeyVaracalli I am looking for the best choice under 1000 dollars. The best choice I saw were:
gaggia classic pro
Bezzera new hobby
Breville Bambino Plus
rancilio silvia
Most of the people I asked said Bezzera or gaggia
What is your final opinion?
Hello! Do you have a 5 pound bag of your coffee? If you do, how much is it!
Where are you located. If it’s in the United States I can hook you up.
@@JoeyVaracalli I leave in Las Vegas ,Nevada
@@oo5068 yeah if you want to do a 5 pound bag send me an email directly at j.a.varacalli@gmail.com and send me your address and if you PayPal send 52 bucks to that same address
In Australia the Gaggia is more than double the price of the Bambino so the Bambino was an obvious choice.
Yeah that makes sense. Idk why they would charge so much more for product made in Italy vs one made in china other than shipping maybe???
The Breville is an appliance, something that would make an awesome wedding present. I had the Gaggia for almost 10 years ( was my first espresso machine), I'd like to see the Breville last half that long.
Yeah that’s what I said in the video. Not the wedding thing but i said “ if you want a machine that will last go with the gaggia”
Lol, I've had my Breville for 10 years. Still going strong 😁
@@asjeot yeah I’m starting to hate the “well it’s not prosumer” discussion cause most of it is really hard to really say one thing is better then the other.
@@JoeyVaracalli Agreed. The conversation should be about getting the most out of whichever brew method, machine or whatever you're using. One can learn a lot from an 'appliance' and get some great tasting coffee out of it.
The plan is to upgrade but only when my Breville dies but it has been years now and it's still going. I've just been learning and researching, in the meantime, still deciding on which 'machine' will best suit my needs.
The Gaggia is a consumer grade appliance.
The bambino is made in China. Does it last long? Is it good quality?
It’s not a commercialish style machine where it’s made with dense steel and more repairable but I think the bambino is reasonably well made and will probably last a decent amount of years for the price
May I ask where is your iPhone made in? Or Tesla or....
25% price difference is not priced similarly, also did you take into account the price of the PID you ?
Yes right around 11:30 I mention that it’s considered I said that if this had all the things I put on it I’d give it an 8 instead of a seven. 100 or so bucks between espresso machines in my opinion are priced similar. percentages matter I agree but I also say it’s cheaper and come to the conclusion that the bambino is the better buy.
Just look at that boxie thing lmao, who want that in their beautiful house lol
👍👍😉😉💯💯+
Thanks 🙏
Oh but um like but it’s like 54mm… you sound like full frame photographers trying to prove that APS-C is useless
Yeah idk the photographer reference but yeah
Friendly WARNING..... Please do not recommend removal of the plastic from Bambino´s portafilter. The included portafilter is probably made of aluminium alloy. Coffee as a higher acidity liquid should not be poured over aluminium for healthy reasons ;) Its even worse then plastic :( The plastic is there not to direct the flow of coffee, but to avoid touching the aluminium material.....
Hmmmmm that’s a pretty good point. I think the most important thing is get rid of that crappy portafilter for a good one either a bottomless or a stainless steal
@@JoeyVaracalli Yes, exactly :) It should probably be the first step while buying these cheaper "appliances". That means lowering the price difference between these by $50-$70. As far as I know - portafilter on Gaggia is already a chrome platted brass out of the box - correct me if wrong..... :)
@@fotografjindra6442 you are correct. The gaggia definitely doesn’t need replaced
@@HugoTheLigar Thanks for info, eventhough it is only a boiler - so just in touch with pure water - , but still.... worth to know and have in mind ;)
@@HugoTheLigarbut the new classic evo has a coating on it but I can't find out anywhere what it is actually made of
Okay Joe, you know there's really no comparison between these two. The Bambino, in out of the box condition, cannot make decent espresso. I have a new GCP and with a couple of low cost mods performs along with machines three times its price. The Bambino really can't be improved or easily repaired. It is aimed at the espresso curious and the Gaggia the aficionado.
You may have never heard of a dimmer mod but it’s not very hard to install and that gives you flow profiling. ua-cam.com/video/8s8_amfne40/v-deo.html
I just ordered one, saw a great installation video.
@@danjv nice 👍 that’s a very useful mod honestly. Flow control I think is one of the best ways to upgrade your espresso
The kit is only $6.88 on Amazon and simple to install.
@@danjv yeah go for it I say
It's distracting to repeatedly use the words "you know." Just a friendly hint.
Yeah I’m not the best presenter in the world I appreciate the kind Critique
I ended up returning the bambino back to Amazon and getting a Gaggia since that one can be repaired, unlike the Breville.
Now I’m searching for a good grinder
Well I have plenty of great options what price point you looking at
Man it seems Gaggias need more repair than any. I didn't heard something the same about bambino. Which it means it needs less repair. Good luck with repair bro.
Pretty good comparison but the espresso taste test was really faulty.
Your recipe needs to be the same for both e.g. 15g in, 30g out which is a standard 2:1 ratio.
Your gaggia shot was 15g in, 43g out which is around 3:1
your breville shot was 15g in, 38g out which is 2.5:1
So of course the gaggia shot tasted overextracted (and the breville tasted better).
Pull both of them at the same ratio to see if there's a difference - my hypothesis is that you won't find any difference between them.
Yeah agree was just very difficult getting them the same unfortunately