Medieval 2: Total War - Part 71 - How the War Wasn't Won

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  • @Luke-cg8kz
    @Luke-cg8kz 7 років тому +254

    "AI generals love being suicidal" says the guy who ran his general in front of his own artillery

  • @tiberiusbrutus942
    @tiberiusbrutus942 7 років тому +359

    Venetians: "Please don't hurt us, Caffa is one of the very few settlements we have left! Spare us our lives!"
    Me: "Oh boo hoo, go Crimea river."

  • @neru_pehut
    @neru_pehut 7 років тому +187

    "I love the Black Death"-Jon, 2017/8(timezone dependent)

    • @Savvyonion
      @Savvyonion 7 років тому +4

      2018 (new zealand)

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 7 років тому +325

    when the plague ends, please looks over the faction stat charts and show the hit the population took

  • @pontifexcellence6648
    @pontifexcellence6648 7 років тому +105

    The alternate universe Pope congratulates King Jon on his commanding victory against the bumbling Mongols!

  • @gjeggi6760
    @gjeggi6760 7 років тому +97

    "Its over Mongols, i have the high ground"- what i hoped jon would say

    • @meenlord6177
      @meenlord6177 7 років тому +17

      Bungi Booc don't try it, Khan. *Proceeds to charge up hill into artillery fire*

    • @gjeggi6760
      @gjeggi6760 7 років тому +6

      'Get's himself stuffed with arrows and cut down'

    • @Blademan-wr8pg
      @Blademan-wr8pg 7 років тому +8

      You underestimate my power

    • @highdefinitionapollo2.019
      @highdefinitionapollo2.019 7 років тому +1

      Bungi Booc ugh, prequels

  • @thoughtfulpug1333
    @thoughtfulpug1333 7 років тому +92

    Historically, Caffa was the place where the plague branched into Europe; it struck Asia prior to that, but it was at Caffa that the plague was brought to Europe.
    The Mongols were besieging the city (held by Genoa at that time), and they started catapulting dead plague riddled corpses into the city.
    However, because the Mongols weren't good seamen, they failed to blockade the port, which meant supply ships and refugee boats could easily travel in and out of the city. Guess what happen led nex- plague rats boarded the outgoing ships and hopped off after debarking in Italy and other Mediterranean ports; the rest is history.

  • @geekchris105
    @geekchris105 7 років тому +57

    The Spirit of Julianus Vetinius was with you for that first battle

  • @hannahalice1000
    @hannahalice1000 7 років тому +98

    Oh Jon. Killed the Mongols?I was so looking forward to a citadel . . . . wait, what the hell is he saying? . . . . . Oh joy, just what I wanted. You so know your fans

    • @Gilhelmi
      @Gilhelmi 7 років тому

      hannahalice1000 I was just thinking that exact thing.

  • @jjfajen
    @jjfajen 7 років тому +31

    Mongols: Hah! Now you are trapped in your castle with us!
    Jon: I'm not trapped in here with you. You're trapped in here with me!

  • @movingparts6270
    @movingparts6270 7 років тому +42

    So when's the Aztec playthrough?
    It's pretty easy to edit the game files to make them viable in the vanilla game. The hardest part is making sure you can get boats from the Americas to Europe for a grand Aztec invasion.

  • @XRonor98
    @XRonor98 7 років тому +26

    Got to admit, I got really into the battle of Altdana. The fact that your stupid plan could have worked to that degree is... annoying and very enjoyable. Happy New Years, Jon. May this year be better then the last. And may you live in interesting times, you mad Englishman you.

  • @CaptainHightop
    @CaptainHightop 7 років тому +21

    I have been taking a hit every time Jon says "these guys" or "those guys" during a battle. I'm stoned off my ass and I'm only 8 minutes in!

  • @hcrawford115
    @hcrawford115 7 років тому +25

    I love this solution to “the Great Bumbling”

  • @dannycolliflower7868
    @dannycolliflower7868 7 років тому +12

    The yellow green flashing was from the trebuchet dead cows with plague, the unit was being affected by it.

  • @christianroper4172
    @christianroper4172 7 років тому +20

    That last fight was great. Wish it actually happened though. It would have been such a heroic victory.

  • @jarradscarborough7915
    @jarradscarborough7915 7 років тому +23

    Medieval 2: Battle of the Five-and-a bit Armies

  • @Heranara
    @Heranara 7 років тому +29

    The Black Death being a minor problem?
    Think most CK2 players says that statement is adorable.

    • @Heranara
      @Heranara 7 років тому +2

      Happy Meme Farmer That's the joke.

    • @drunkenthoughts6072
      @drunkenthoughts6072 7 років тому +7

      Oh god... The heir succession... Those wives... The entire council... Even the doctor...
      **Vietnam Flashback**
      But atleast it kills my brother. But at the cost of the entire dynasty.

    • @Hendlton
      @Hendlton 7 років тому +4

      I'd love to see Jon play CK 2.

  • @mithkabob
    @mithkabob 7 років тому +36

    The alternate universe Mongols were breaking too fast, it seems they were lacking the experience of their normal reality counterparts.

    • @coffie1852
      @coffie1852 7 років тому +9

      Kel Woodbury yeah was thinking the same they always have minimum of 3 silver chevrons

    • @theemeraldepiphone644
      @theemeraldepiphone644 4 роки тому +3

      There were also their generals that had really high dread levels.

  • @movingparts6270
    @movingparts6270 7 років тому +10

    Jon! Flashing yellow banners mean the unit has been hit by a dead cow and is suffering moral penalties as a result. The third Mongol army was throwing cows at you, but it appears they only succeeded in shooting themselves.

  • @oneofmanyjames-es1643
    @oneofmanyjames-es1643 7 років тому +18

    The high ground is strong with this one

  • @stephenberezhnoy9369
    @stephenberezhnoy9369 7 років тому +6

    The cliff battle was one of the most epic so far! I loved it, the Danes looked scary from the mongol point of view.

  • @toaofpi
    @toaofpi 7 років тому +1

    I love the alternate history versions. I'm so glad that feature exists so we could see those battles that had been teased for so long.
    Thanks for the video!

  • @CommissarMitch
    @CommissarMitch 7 років тому +3

    One has to remember that in the Custom Battles, Jon did not change any experience on the soldiers.

  • @stam2331
    @stam2331 4 роки тому +3

    Watching this episode in May 2020... Sure does reflect real life with that plague

    • @TheSamithman
      @TheSamithman 4 роки тому +1

      3 months later and its worse

    • @Themilesrock
      @Themilesrock 3 роки тому +1

      A year later and its still not great

  • @epsdudez
    @epsdudez 7 років тому +8

    We've come this far. You should do full map completion!

  • @jaredcicero3449
    @jaredcicero3449 7 років тому +11

    Oh god here we go again with jon and multiple alternate dimensions

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 7 років тому +7

    The Mongols are dead at last!
    - in the middle of the plague
    - Timurids far scarier and on the way

  • @dextercritten6167
    @dextercritten6167 7 років тому +15

    Jon The flashing yellow is disgust I think you can see this with the dead cow fire for the trebaughshe

  • @Dave-rm1mb
    @Dave-rm1mb 7 років тому +3

    This period in history seems to work so well for the Total War engine. I'd like to see a third instalment. They should work on improving the graphics, AI and depth of economy/diplomacy/tech/military. Make the game a challenge.

  • @brennenthompson-ross6137
    @brennenthompson-ross6137 7 років тому +1

    Happy new year Jon! Thanks for all the great videos all throughout the year!

  • @feasible
    @feasible 7 років тому +3

    I kind of want Jon to rename a city "Norse Archer Central".

  • @emerytharp6858
    @emerytharp6858 7 років тому +2

    Jon: CLAIRE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STAY INSIDE
    Claire: It's just a rainstorm Jon!
    Jon: Oh.

  • @seankervin4033
    @seankervin4033 7 років тому +6

    wonder if Jon will mop up the Egyptians now.

  • @badunclebobblehead
    @badunclebobblehead 7 років тому +1

    Alternative timelines with non veteran Mongols, I'd like to see what would have happened if they all had three silver chevrons as they do in reality. Nonetheless a great end to a year of a great content, happy new year and many thanks to you both and many purrs from Penwiper the cat who particularly enjoys WTW, she is fascinated by the wobbly ritual effects on the campaign map.

  • @lyinarbaeldeth2456
    @lyinarbaeldeth2456 7 років тому +1

    Jon, the flashing yellow flag indicates the unit has been poisoned. The Mongols were firing cow carcasses from their catapults and then walking into them.

  • @Gilhelmi
    @Gilhelmi 7 років тому +2

    Archers are god tier.
    Fun fact, studies have shown that until the late 19th century, crossbows and bows were still more accurate than rifles. It is speculated by some that the only reason rifles were used more is because of the fear that they induced, and the armor penetration. Until the from the medieval to now, how many wore real body armor? Occasionally, some wore chainmail, but it was rare. Even today, the armor that stops rifle rounds boarders on the impractical.

  • @imsotachy
    @imsotachy 7 років тому +1

    Jon says “The Black Death” like 30 times in under one minute lmao

  • @TKainZero
    @TKainZero 5 років тому

    Thank you for doing the alternate histories.
    That was great

  • @movingparts6270
    @movingparts6270 7 років тому +7

    Wouldn't the correct term be Great Khan, not just Khan? I'm pretty sure that was the nomenclature for their version of an emperor/king of kings.

  • @IOSEF31
    @IOSEF31 7 років тому +2

    nice uploading time m8 happy nice year tnx for your videos i really enjoyed the entire year luv u

  • @silasstryder
    @silasstryder 7 років тому +1

    *Happy New Years Jon and Claire!*

  • @thepudding322
    @thepudding322 7 років тому +3

    The war wasn't won because you left the god damn pudding behind jon!

  • @juliuszondag5515
    @juliuszondag5515 6 років тому

    Love that you decided to go into the alternate universe mode 😁

  • @aaronfrazier7159
    @aaronfrazier7159 2 роки тому +1

    Dude, I'm 5 years late to the party, but that was awesome!

  • @Azaghal1988
    @Azaghal1988 7 років тому +1

    Happy new year Jon and Claire ;)

  • @nolongeraperson
    @nolongeraperson 7 років тому +1

    After seeing the alternate universe citadel battle, I honestly believe the ballista towers would've done better, unless the cannon morale penalty is massive.

  • @miketaylor5212
    @miketaylor5212 5 років тому +1

    it seems the mongols were shooting rotten cow carcasses into the castle

  • @matthewf6063
    @matthewf6063 7 років тому +8

    Do total war napoleon next

  • @iancrane5705
    @iancrane5705 7 років тому +1

    has exhausted Norse Archers, tells them to run. -1 perception yet again

  • @deletemedelete3240
    @deletemedelete3240 7 років тому +1

    the flashing yellow flag means the unit has been hit by a rotting cow round from a trebuchet

  • @willlastnameguy8329
    @willlastnameguy8329 2 роки тому +1

    Cannon towers work best against the timurids, because if they hit an elephant unit they will run wild immediately. I defeated an entire army with no losses once.

  • @LazerWolf21
    @LazerWolf21 7 років тому

    Defend against the same armies but in a minor city. I was able to do it in my first play through as Venice with an army of half miltia and half crusader/mercenary troops.

  • @eznf98
    @eznf98 11 місяців тому +1

    I am playing as Denmark
    I was defending a fortress and didn't realize till halfway through the battle
    That saved me, I sent half my men back and my faction leader somehow wiped out everyone.

  • @boxthief446
    @boxthief446 7 років тому +1

    -Four horsemen defeated the mongols
    -disease destroys the old world
    Well, Jon, I hate to say it but I think Denmark carries with it the four horsemen of the apocalypse.

  • @B1eardog
    @B1eardog 7 років тому

    Total domination Jon! I have loved every bit of this series. Glad to see you are continuing on. Make the Byzantines pay!

  • @burgerpossum24
    @burgerpossum24 7 років тому

    happy new years yall. this is the first video im watching. here's to a successful 2018!

  • @AllGlitchdOut
    @AllGlitchdOut 7 років тому +1

    Flashing yellow is sickness from the rotting cows ..

  • @clemboy500
    @clemboy500 7 років тому

    Take a drink every time Jon says "boom"

  • @misssniperella
    @misssniperella 7 років тому +2

    If only we had the alternate Adana seige, we would have Lasagna the 3rd

  • @owenmarks7133
    @owenmarks7133 7 років тому +1

    Happy New Years Jon

  • @TheAnon03
    @TheAnon03 7 років тому +1

    If you really want to fight the Mongols defend Antioch (Huge city, Ballista towers) against 4 stacks of them.

  • @Logan_Zimmerman
    @Logan_Zimmerman 2 роки тому +1

    Rest In Peace for The Bumbling Mongols. 1212-1348. We will miss your bumbling around the Middle East, Not taking a single settlement.

  • @partizanlegis
    @partizanlegis 7 років тому +1

    Jon please check out if the armies in Spain march quicker without the cannons, I think that's what is slowing them down!!! Also have a Happy New Year damnit!

  • @unacceptableviews1505
    @unacceptableviews1505 6 років тому

    That battlefield at the start is a gift from Odin.......

  • @reconuhd4193
    @reconuhd4193 7 років тому

    By avenging Godfred, surely you don't mean to shoot this guy in the back

  • @MWSin1
    @MWSin1 7 років тому +1

    Doesn't the flashing yellow flag mean they've been hit by trebuchet carcass shot? Did they hit their own troops?

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 7 років тому +1

    if you took the cannon out of the army to reinforce Leon it'd have arrived in time

  • @Riverboat374
    @Riverboat374 7 років тому +1

    Er...Jon, why don't your alternate reality Mongols have triple silver chevron experience?

  • @mattgieseke8302
    @mattgieseke8302 7 років тому

    Happy New Year everyone!

  • @simondoyle1988
    @simondoyle1988 7 років тому

    When the towers are destroyed and the archers are out of armour you could bring then back to the plasa

  • @JoshuaKevinPerry
    @JoshuaKevinPerry 7 років тому +1

    Mongol armies are almost always silver or gold xp and have God Tier Generals, so I'm not sure the test was useful.

  • @Catman2123
    @Catman2123 7 років тому +1

    It’s over Anakin! I have the high ground!

  • @chriscalvin5083
    @chriscalvin5083 7 років тому

    happy New year Jon

  • @elicrowther7566
    @elicrowther7566 7 років тому

    HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

  • @peterpan23
    @peterpan23 7 років тому +2

    Admiral Jon!?!?!?

  • @FishyNiden
    @FishyNiden 7 років тому

    Norse archers, early game archers, fully capable of defeating 3 mongols army with mid-late game units!
    I knew Danes were strong defensively, but this is ridiculous!

  • @millerrepin4452
    @millerrepin4452 7 років тому

    That was amazing epic victory

  • @Bufoferrata
    @Bufoferrata 7 років тому

    When is the next episode coming out? This is a scream as well as very informative.

  • @Evangelyne423
    @Evangelyne423 7 років тому

    Jon's Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse ftw!

  • @stormcrown9
    @stormcrown9 7 років тому

    well done jon!

  • @zigzagcloth7438
    @zigzagcloth7438 7 років тому

    I finished this a few seconds before midnight
    Happy 2018 what a great way to end mine

  • @Moon-fp8cr
    @Moon-fp8cr 7 років тому +7

    It just became 2018 here

  • @chriscalvin5083
    @chriscalvin5083 7 років тому

    good video Jon

  • @yurik4
    @yurik4 7 років тому +1

    Happy 2018!

  • @josephfriel6597
    @josephfriel6597 7 років тому +1

    Love the vids Jon I'm curious to see what newer historical total war game you will delve into next Ps I have a female cat named Jon partly because of you and also because of Jon snow

  • @pyrrhusthegreat2103
    @pyrrhusthegreat2103 10 місяців тому

    That sure was fun !!!!

  • @VampireofEmotion
    @VampireofEmotion 7 років тому

    By the time this video ends it'll be 2018
    start as i mean to go on: watching Jon

  • @DraconiusDragora
    @DraconiusDragora 6 років тому

    Let the Mongolians feel the Horde of the Danish Christian Crusaders!

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 7 років тому +1

    you can still wipe out hordes by killing all the generals

  • @zakback9937
    @zakback9937 7 років тому

    CHINESE NEW YEAR ALREADY?!

  • @Lo-tf6qt
    @Lo-tf6qt 7 років тому

    Happy New Year everyone! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

    • @Circuitous
      @Circuitous 7 років тому +1

      Suddenly I want Jon to play God Save The Queen.

  • @Blademan-wr8pg
    @Blademan-wr8pg 7 років тому

    Watching this in 2018

  • @lockgridandkey8423
    @lockgridandkey8423 7 років тому +2

    Happy New Year People

  • @hypoaktivnaovca
    @hypoaktivnaovca 3 роки тому +1

    Your alternate universe siege isn't actually representative of the Mongols, sadly. The reason their units never break in the actual campaign is that they all spawn with 3 silver chevrons, except for the first 2 armies (one of which starts with 6 guys and is mostly irrelevant anyway).

  • @quimble2177
    @quimble2177 7 років тому +2

    challenge. everytime Jon says "yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah" take a shot for each individual Yeah...oh you have to go through the whole series btw..good luck, if you end up in hospital..you've won!

  • @bigchris1234
    @bigchris1234 7 років тому +2

    Your first mock battle didn't accurately simulate what would have happened in a campaign battle vs the Mongols. All Mongol units in the campaign have 6+ xp chevrons making them virtually impossible to route. Ram crews would not have fled.
    Also, you didn't give any AI army a proper general (or unit without a secondary ability - thus the AI was unable to use the rally horn). Unlike you, the AI, and any good player, uses the rally horn to stabilize his army, especially vs cannon towers which cause moral problems.

  • @jansenart0
    @jansenart0 7 років тому +1

    Only now does it occur to me that Jon constantly says "a bit o'trouble" when as an American, I expect him to say "a spot of bother".

  • @mit6089
    @mit6089 7 років тому +1

    2018

  • @wearebloodandbone
    @wearebloodandbone 7 років тому

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