@@indiamoonstonewalkertate3519 you're right, but he left once he got on Salem's payroll. team RWBY are the only ones there for Emerald even if all of them don't like it
I can see where people are coming from when they complain about Emerald's turn into one of the "good" guys but tbh It makes perfect sense to me. She was a girl that stole to survive and fended for herself until Cinder took her under her wing. She obviously had a strong emotional attachment to Cinder and would have done anything for her, but that doesn't mean she always liked it. As early on as the fall of Beacon you can see Mercury and Cinder almost relishing in the death and destruction but Emerald does NOT look happy, a little scared or mortified even. After she seemingly loses Cinder she loses that attachment, has no incentive/validation from Cinder to carry out those horrendous acts, and leaves out of fear of Salem. Cuz ya know. Now she knows Salem's goal is the complete annihilation of Humanity. Makes sense to me Like I said I can see where people are coming from, could have been more developed but I definitely don't think it was "out of nowhere" or as poorly written as some people say. For RWBY's writing lol
I see why she wants to switch sides. The main issue is why the main characters are forgiving her She faked being a freind and helped with the fall of Beacon which resulted in Pyrrha and Penny's death, plus the other huntsmen and civilians, the school falling, and that whole area being grimm infested. Then in V5 when she reunites with them she tries to destroy another school, Weiss almost died, and Cinder almost had another Maiden and the Lamp. Then cut to V7/V8 when Salem has finally arrived with all of her forces, why would they trust Emerald of all people if they couldn't even trust Ironwood.
@@camnunes8847 Because she is not a leader, but a follower. Why didn't the Allies punish the whole of germans, italians and japanese soldiers when they involved killing millions of lives both civilians and military? Will you punish the germans, italians and japanese soldiers now just because they are from the countries that kill millions from across the world? She need a second chance but she is gonna work extra hard to make up for damage she has caused and it's going to be tough.
@@camnunes8847 They didn't. They're trusting Oscar's (and ozpin's to an extent) judgment. Ren is the most relaxed one about it since he can more or less discern motives and emotions via his semblance, But everyone else was on edge over emerald. Even if she did cooperate and help them she has a long way to go. And you can bet your ass Jaune and Ruby will never be chummy with her. Not after beacon.
"I see what you can do, Emerald" - nothing to do with Beacon, he meant, that she could trick Salem with her illusion. I like their chemistry, but Emerald's redemption was a bit rushed...
Yeah plus with Hazel they definalty had a Father and Daugther kind of relationship as well so Emerald finally is getting the family she always wanted I feel.
The whole idea that huntsmen exist only to fight ozpins war is so dumb. They exist because grim are a constant threat that need to be dealt with. Salem or not, huntsmen would still have to exist. He's not raising children to fight a war, he's teaching them to defend their homes and towns and less defended villages
well that's a new one! Considering Atlas is currently... in need of rebuilding if salvageable, it'd take a long time for that to happen, and there's no telling what the political climate will be like now. I don't feel like Oscar's necessarily the type to use a puppet or lead from the shadows, given his value of transparency & informed cooperation along with his tendency to tackle things head-on. He's more prone to taking action himself than delegating from an ivory tower, and generally doesn't like secrecy. But I'm intrigued, what makes you think this? It's a cool theory and I'd love to know more!
it certainly is. And even faster since using magic. Oscar and Ozpin are both acting more and more like each other and it is fascinating! Lmk if you want clarification on who's who in these clips cause they're getting easier to mix up and most of this video is volume 8
Bro 16:11 is basically the next volume solved for Ruby what i mean is that everyone looks at Ruby for an answer but even though ur a team u still have your individual thoughts and still being a team
emerald is just slowly learning that people that she cared for does not really care for her
Except for Mercury, *HE* Cares! (But I see your point…)
Hazel has always cared about her I guess he saw her as a little sister as he was always trying to protect her
@@indiamoonstonewalkertate3519 you're right, but he left once he got on Salem's payroll. team RWBY are the only ones there for Emerald even if all of them don't like it
Jaune: "Well... SAY SOMETHING!"
Cinder: "Who are you again?"
Damn....
one of her best moments tbh XD
I understand why a lot of people say she's terribly written but you have to admit that line is freaking iconic
I can see where people are coming from when they complain about Emerald's turn into one of the "good" guys but tbh It makes perfect sense to me. She was a girl that stole to survive and fended for herself until Cinder took her under her wing. She obviously had a strong emotional attachment to Cinder and would have done anything for her, but that doesn't mean she always liked it. As early on as the fall of Beacon you can see Mercury and Cinder almost relishing in the death and destruction but Emerald does NOT look happy, a little scared or mortified even. After she seemingly loses Cinder she loses that attachment, has no incentive/validation from Cinder to carry out those horrendous acts, and leaves out of fear of Salem. Cuz ya know. Now she knows Salem's goal is the complete annihilation of Humanity.
Makes sense to me
Like I said I can see where people are coming from, could have been more developed but I definitely don't think it was "out of nowhere" or as poorly written as some people say. For RWBY's writing lol
I see why she wants to switch sides. The main issue is why the main characters are forgiving her
She faked being a freind and helped with the fall of Beacon which resulted in Pyrrha and Penny's death, plus the other huntsmen and civilians, the school falling, and that whole area being grimm infested. Then in V5 when she reunites with them she tries to destroy another school, Weiss almost died, and Cinder almost had another Maiden and the Lamp. Then cut to V7/V8 when Salem has finally arrived with all of her forces, why would they trust Emerald of all people if they couldn't even trust Ironwood.
@@camnunes8847 Because she is not a leader, but a follower. Why didn't the Allies punish the whole of germans, italians and japanese soldiers when they involved killing millions of lives both civilians and military? Will you punish the germans, italians and japanese soldiers now just because they are from the countries that kill millions from across the world? She need a second chance but she is gonna work extra hard to make up for damage she has caused and it's going to be tough.
Exactly. I even caught that early on.
@@camnunes8847 They didn't. They're trusting Oscar's (and ozpin's to an extent) judgment. Ren is the most relaxed one about it since he can more or less discern motives and emotions via his semblance, But everyone else was on edge over emerald. Even if she did cooperate and help them she has a long way to go.
And you can bet your ass Jaune and Ruby will never be chummy with her. Not after beacon.
@Loispealz!!!HERE well they were pretty chummy when laughing about her when she said she "switched sides".
Funny that Oscar was the only reason Emerald didn't get beat up. Both Yang and Ruby were ready to throw hands.
"I see what you can do, Emerald" - nothing to do with Beacon, he meant, that she could trick Salem with her illusion. I like their chemistry, but Emerald's redemption was a bit rushed...
yeah that's what I think's most likely, that's why I had "or" as like a possibility. And I agree, it was very rushed
Rushed? I don't think it's even finished. Redemption isn't switching sides; redemption is a constant effort to remain good.
She is not redeemed until she faces Cinder in my eyes.
While rushed, it's still a great concept though, it would've been even more jarring if it was Mercury instead of Emerald lmao.
@@InvinciDon I doubt Mercury wants to be redeemed, but maybe Emerald will help him to escape in Vacuo.
I wish Oscar showed up like "Hey. It's a long story, but I'm back, and we made a new friend. I uh... I probably have some explaining to do."
Emerald and Oscar have a really good Dynamic here,I could see them forming a Brother and Sister type Relationship.
Yeah plus with Hazel they definalty had a Father and Daugther kind of relationship as well so Emerald finally is getting the family she always wanted I feel.
@@blackdemonknight then hazel dies
@@Hooploops777Yeah,Rest in peace homie.
Oscar is gonna throw hands like nothing any of us have seen before 0:37
farmboy ready to FIGHT
I am crying laughing oh my god I never saw that before
I’d like to see more of Emerald and Oscar moments, Emerald is the sister he never had
Emerald is awesome and ….. I guess she has a nice belly
Emerald is so bratty and Oscar is there like "girl be kind please"
SUCH a fun dynamic XD
"The only reason people, stick around RWBY is, for the _popcorn_ content." -Weiss Schnee
Its interesting even though Oscar is shorter and younger than emerald, he is the one acting like the older brother
It's so true, though! Oscar just goes through Remnant adopting adults as his children/younger siblings and I respect that about him
The whole idea that huntsmen exist only to fight ozpins war is so dumb. They exist because grim are a constant threat that need to be dealt with. Salem or not, huntsmen would still have to exist. He's not raising children to fight a war, he's teaching them to defend their homes and towns and less defended villages
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
18:39 Actually I do wish they had animated her being more startled.
me too [ducks from bullets]
I like emerald’s twisted form of Salem, more that her actual form, I always thought she’d be some eldritch twisted looking creature.
- You have done the right thing.
- I have... /switches/ ... Feels weird...
I'm sorry Salem, but all I imagine when listening to you is Cortana
PFFT
Cortana rolls worst blunt ever
Asked to die off screen
Same Voice actor
Jen Taylor
woooooo baby thats what ive been waiting for
Prediction: Oscar will become head of Atlas secret police and will basically be a shadow leader, using a puppet in his public stead.
well that's a new one! Considering Atlas is currently... in need of rebuilding if salvageable, it'd take a long time for that to happen, and there's no telling what the political climate will be like now. I don't feel like Oscar's necessarily the type to use a puppet or lead from the shadows, given his value of transparency & informed cooperation along with his tendency to tackle things head-on. He's more prone to taking action himself than delegating from an ivory tower, and generally doesn't like secrecy. But I'm intrigued, what makes you think this? It's a cool theory and I'd love to know more!
@@HyperfixationStation Here me out, make a discord server and I will spam the hell out of fan theory's. I mean like I have more. A lot more.
Oscar, Nora, Emerald, and Ren should be called "Team ONER", which will pronounce "Honor". Team ONER.
Not, is because all their fight sequences will be in one take lol
YES QUALITY CONTENT
I crave more
O I get it emerald could be a play on the emerald city that the wizard of oz lives in. So in the future emerald could be the gylnda to Oscar ozpin
It’s getting a little harder to tell the difference from Oscar and Ozpin
it certainly is. And even faster since using magic. Oscar and Ozpin are both acting more and more like each other and it is fascinating! Lmk if you want clarification on who's who in these clips cause they're getting easier to mix up and most of this video is volume 8
New team is Oscar, Emerald, Ren, and Nora for the vacuo arc. Jaune won’t make it back
What would their team name be?
ORNE (Orange)?
They should be called "Team ONER". Oscar, Nora, Emerald, and Ren, which will pronounce "Honor" for Team ONER.
@@maxsotomayor3674honor doesn't have a color theme to it the character names and team names have colors to them
@@beverlyarcher3744 Dosen't it matter?
What will their relationship will be? I had a feeling that it will be like hope and light relationship.
At 18:30 HE'S TALKING ABOUT ALYX AAAAAAAA
Lmao he is omg I can't wait to find out what happened
Wasnt Ruby's cheeks darker in that scene where she was about to hug oscar? I guess they changed it in the blue ray.
were they? I haven't seen the blu ray so idk, but that's an odd thing to change I feel?
like as in her cheeks were redder in the blu ray?
She's gonna end up becoming his new Glenda.
Interesting
Bro 16:11 is basically the next volume solved for Ruby
what i mean is that everyone looks at Ruby for an answer but even though ur a team u still have your individual thoughts and still being a team
I forgot about emeralds salem illusion.
Some odd reason I had it in my mind it was Salem that actually appeared
with volume ten i CANT WAIt for the eventual emerald v mercury!!! ima be cheering for my girl ALL THE WAY
Emerald's redemption is...a bit of a mess
But much like ruby and oscar, the character herself is fine just misused a lot by the writters
wait was ozpin talking about the ever-after????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
0:42
0:58
can you believe he got them to be friends
So is she supposed to be Dorothy then?
22:59 ooofff... How dat backfired tho... 🥺🥲😅
why didnt salem make mercury anothe rgrimm experiment like that faunus he had silver eyes too why didnt she do it
Actually mercury just has grey eyes
Pour hazel