I've known about this for a while now and never have 40 cor softballs in my BP bucket. We hit some 52's and then switch to the 44 cor 375's for the most part. And your right, hard softballs in the cold is bat breaking weather. Some of the older MIken's and Easton's are tanks and can withstand the cold weather and not break. I think mostly what the bat manufacturer's are making now are not going to hold up as well. Great information as always Chef.
I agree Chef and those balls will break bats quicker than most. Fortunately, we don't play with Classic M's here for league. Our open leagues and some senior leagues force us to play with the 52's. The senior league I'm joining this Spring allows us to hit 44 cor 375 comp balls. I think they use mostly Thunders, but not 100% sure yet.
The 52/300 was designed to be a safer ball if you were to get hit.The 52 cor bounces off the body.Lower core balls do more damage when they hit you and your body absorbs the impact. Same principal with a bat.Higher cor = bouncier ball.Higher compression = harder ball. keep up the good work Chef
Great great great video OG I appreciate the knowledge and taking all guess with out. I even learned from this video thank you, rant like seeing ask the new videos
Also weigh them. The higher the mass the more damaging the ball. That’s why when it’s a windy tournament hit the classic m ball because it’s heavier. Hit the pro m on non windy days.
Great video! We always use Dudley 52/300s and hot dots for BP with only a handful of pro m’s and classic m’s that we hit the last 1-2 swings of each round
Could go to any tournament or league night & probably less than 5% would know what COR stood for. Every time I say coefficient of restitution I get the strangest looks. Then I just say it’s how bouncy ball is. Everybody is very relieved to hear it like that😅
I was just told that our USSSA league uses Classic M, or Pro-M balls. I also just bought a new bat! I think I need to find a new league after watching this video again lol.
@Bigchefsoftball These bats out now are hot out of the wrapper, but durability is questionable. Since our conversation, I bought a dozen Pro M balls to use in the cage 👍🏽 Thanks
That is a derby ball. The high compression will really compress your bat, plus the ball will be "lively" due to the high COR. Max exit speeds and distance, but absolutely another ball you don't want to BP with all the time.
.52s are the only ball anyone should ever really hit in BP unless they have a stubbornly stiff bat that needs break in. Many of today's bats don't require BP at all out of the wrapper to be hot, and hitting .44s or classic Ms will do nothing but destroy them quick. Temperature also plays a huge role in how much balls will damage bats. If it's cold you NEVER want to BP classic Ms or .44s. Classic Ms can fluctuate from about 220 to 700 PQI depending on temperature. They're also very inflexible, while .52s are way more elastic. Smart guys who want to hit a lot of BP and not blow through bats will use .52s and WON'T BP their game bats. Keep a couple old, crappy bats around strictly for BP.
Definitely 52’s are the way to go for Bp and to preserve the longevity of the bats. For the reviews we use 44’s to provide a simulated feel as those are the balls that are mostly used in league and tourney play. Classic M’s are killers
Also when it's going to be questionable temps overnight, DO NOT leave the balls in your car..........I'll hit outside here in the Northeast at 50 degrees or more, however I have the garbage pail filled with balls in the house for at least 24 hours prior to BP. Always, warm your balls!!!!!!!!!!!haha PS........even in the summer when it's hotter than hot, I still DON"T leave balls ever in the car except to and from the field.
I've known about this for a while now and never have 40 cor softballs in my BP bucket. We hit some 52's and then switch to the 44 cor 375's for the most part. And your right, hard softballs in the cold is bat breaking weather. Some of the older MIken's and Easton's are tanks and can withstand the cold weather and not break. I think mostly what the bat manufacturer's are making now are not going to hold up as well. Great information as always Chef.
Agreed. Most recommend 52’s and game use 44’s. I personally feel the classic m should go away with the 220’s
I agree Chef and those balls will break bats quicker than most. Fortunately, we don't play with Classic M's here for league. Our open leagues and some senior leagues force us to play with the 52's. The senior league I'm joining this Spring allows us to hit 44 cor 375 comp balls. I think they use mostly Thunders, but not 100% sure yet.
A great technical description of the different stamped balls. Thanks, Chef!
Thank you for the feedback
We use Spinners and they work great, clean up well, and no cracked bats in 2 years of using them.
The 52/300 was designed to be a safer ball if you were to get hit.The 52 cor bounces off the body.Lower core balls do more damage when they hit you and your body absorbs the impact. Same principal with a bat.Higher cor = bouncier ball.Higher compression = harder ball. keep up the good work Chef
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Great great great video OG I appreciate the knowledge and taking all guess with out. I even learned from this video thank you, rant like seeing ask the new videos
Yessir
Also weigh them. The higher the mass the more damaging the ball. That’s why when it’s a windy tournament hit the classic m ball because it’s heavier. Hit the pro m on non windy days.
My buddy pat weighed every ball in his bucket
Great video! We always use Dudley 52/300s and hot dots for BP with only a handful of pro m’s and classic m’s that we hit the last 1-2 swings of each round
I have a handful as well. But I’ve loss bats to classic M’s in the past
@@BigchefsoftballThat’s good to know. Probably will use the 52s and then pro m’s if we want to hit hard balls
@@RUNPMC yup
Could go to any tournament or league night & probably less than 5% would know what COR stood for. Every time I say coefficient of restitution I get the strangest looks. Then I just say it’s how bouncy ball is. Everybody is very relieved to hear it like that😅
Most people assumes it’s the “core center “ of the ball
@@Bigchefsoftball exactly
I was just told that our USSSA league uses Classic M, or Pro-M balls. I also just bought a new bat! I think I need to find a new league after watching this video again lol.
lol. I’d use the pro m’s. Much better than the classic
great info Chef
Thank you!!
Great video brother! You know that I've been a victim of this 😂😂
Same here
@Bigchefsoftball These bats out now are hot out of the wrapper, but durability is questionable. Since our conversation, I bought a dozen Pro M balls to use in the cage 👍🏽 Thanks
Thank you chef !!
My pleasure
What would a 52/550 be equivalent too? Roughly.
That’s a bat breaker! I’d say that’s close to a long haul bomber ball
Because of the high compression
That is a derby ball. The high compression will really compress your bat, plus the ball will be "lively" due to the high COR. Max exit speeds and distance, but absolutely another ball you don't want to BP with all the time.
@@SluggerStark correct
.52s are the only ball anyone should ever really hit in BP unless they have a stubbornly stiff bat that needs break in. Many of today's bats don't require BP at all out of the wrapper to be hot, and hitting .44s or classic Ms will do nothing but destroy them quick.
Temperature also plays a huge role in how much balls will damage bats. If it's cold you NEVER want to BP classic Ms or .44s. Classic Ms can fluctuate from about 220 to 700 PQI depending on temperature. They're also very inflexible, while .52s are way more elastic.
Smart guys who want to hit a lot of BP and not blow through bats will use .52s and WON'T BP their game bats. Keep a couple old, crappy bats around strictly for BP.
Definitely 52’s are the way to go for Bp and to preserve the longevity of the bats. For the reviews we use 44’s to provide a simulated feel as those are the balls that are mostly used in league and tourney play. Classic M’s are killers
Also when it's going to be questionable temps overnight, DO NOT leave the balls in your car..........I'll hit outside here in the Northeast at 50 degrees or more, however I have the garbage pail filled with balls in the house for at least 24 hours prior to BP. Always, warm your balls!!!!!!!!!!!haha PS........even in the summer when it's hotter than hot, I still DON"T leave balls ever in the car except to and from the field.
Good stuff!👍🏻
Yessir
This is why manufacturers didn't stamp compression on balls.
Another reason is they don’t want non-sanctions using their balls where they want to see the compression on the ball
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