Tommy, you’ve come a long way in your UA-cam career. I remember a while back when Roman first got you in front of the camera and you would stutter and stammer your way through your thoughts and now you’re just rocking it all day. Just wanted to say Great Job!
With the 1LT I think adding the comfort and convenience package with the heated seats and leather steering wheel is a worthwhile upgrade. Not only is it just nice to have heated seats but in a pinch they can help with range/efficiency as they use far less energy than the heater.
@@Milhouse77BS Same. I had a '15 Leaf SL with the Premium Pkg. I would pre-condition the cabin while plugged in then use the heated and cooled seats while driving. I did have to use the A/C in the Summer here in Vegas (120 degrees), but almost never used the heat in the Winter.
I’ve had the 2022 2LT for 8 months and over 15,000 miles with some light road trips. The heated seats and steering wheel are basically on all the time in the winter, very nice and a must have for me. No issues or visits to the dealership for anything so far. I rotate my own tires and do underbody wash once a week when salt is on the road. Love it, save for the DCFC, but it always works. Mainly a commuter.
Honestly, you need to find a better dealer. They do exist. I walked into my local dealer, ordered an F150 for MSRP and was out in a half hour with no hassle. They asked me if I wanted anything added to it or done to it, laid out there options, I said no thanks, and that was it. No pressure, just laying out the options and asking me to make a decision. When the truck came in, they had all my paperwork ready, saleswoman even texted me a picture of my truck off as it came off the transport at 9pm! 30-40 minutes of paperwork, brief intro to the truck, and I was driving home. Good dealers are like any good business, they are worth having them in your community.
Thank you Tommy for doing videos on a lower cost EV. I think why most people don't like EVs is because they think they need to spend a lot of money to purchase an EV. Just to let you know air flows over a car better if it has a sloped back. This is very important for an EV..
I tried 3 times in 2022 to buy the chevy bolt ev at sticker price without any markups and long story short I'm still in my old car. I've even gone to the chevy website configured my car and contacted the dealership of choice, by the time the details got to the dealership the markups had already been added. I just gave up, but your videos on the bolt have given me new strength to go and find a new bolt
Regarding the "two car setup"... If you're only road tripping 3 or 4 times a year, it's FAR less expensive to rent a second car. Buy the Bolt, rent the Suburban.
I love my Chevy Volt. It fits my use case perfectly - I road trip a lot since both my family and my wife's family live in other states, but if we ever have a need for a second car, it's almost certainly going to be a Bolt
I like my volt but honestly, it's not an ev. It's a hybrid with a slightly bigger battery. My 2016 gets 38mile ev range in the winter and 46 in the summer. I kinda regret buying it, despite it being a pretty good car. I'm waiting till the equinox ev rolls out and the volt will be traded in.
I bought a Bolt EUV last week and we decided to keep our Volt and trade our Hyundai Tucson. We originally planned on trading the Volt but both my wife and I like it too much. It will make long road trips a little more difficult as we will have to decide between comfort in the Bolt and traveling time which is obviously better in the Volt.
I purchased the euv premiere with super cruise, from driving my escalade 120 miles a day I'm saving over $1000 a month and now due for oil change if it was a ice at 5k miles and all I have to do is rotate tires for free at most tire shops my escalade would be over $100 to do maintenance on at this point. I absolutely love this car and the savings involved
Great review. We ended up purchasing our 2022 bolt EUV premier with sun and sound package at sticker. I had to drive over an hour away, but I finally found a dealer that was going to give it to me at sticker unlike the other 4 dealers in my local area that were charging anywhere between $2000-$5000 markups.
BTW, when we ordered our 2023 Bolt EUV last August, the dealership tried to tack on a $1000 markup and we said no thanks and they said ok, no markup. We got it delivered in November. I actually bought one version of the "extra warranty" this time. For $700, we got unlimited PDR, windshield replacements and remote fob replacements. A replacement windshield alone would cost more with the safety equipment calibrations. I live in CO and it's not if you crack your windshield but when.
I wish Tommy had discussed what the warranty is for a new Bolt. I believe GM is standing behind the new traction battery, but what about the rest of the car? I owned two Chevy's many years ago, and both were lemons that I got rid of after a few years. I drive my Japanese cars 10+ years until they fall apart, and plan to do the same for my current 2017 Hyundai hybrid unless I trade it in for a Hyundai or Kia EV. Warranties matter!
Tommy, you nailed it. Just bought a Bolt EUV for my wonderful wife, she loves it, only drives about 100 miles a week, I about fell over when you said you did 400 miles in 48 hours. Also got a kick out of your comments about this being a one of two vehicles. We drive our Suburban on the long trips and the Bolt around town. Bolt, is not a freeway car for sure, but around town it is wonderful.
19:34 I agree 100%. A vehicle is a transportation device, why care if the dash feels plastic? I only care if the tech is good and reliable. Thanks for the video.
Got the launch edition EUV as a daily driver It's worth every penny, especially supercruise. Big difference between snows and all season ev tires with traction and overall distance traveled. Safety comes first, then drivable miles
We have a 2LT, and it seems to solve most (if not all) of your complaints. And the 360 camera in it is better than the one in our Mach-E (it's fantastic). The exception is the charge rate. It's why we have a Mach-E (which we use for longer road trips). We do take the Bolt on daytrips--if you only need one charging stop, you just make that a sit-down meal, and it's not a big deal (it's good to go when you're done eating). 🙂 We're huge fans (it's our 2nd Bolt--our first was a 2018, and our current is a '22). The stock tires are hot garbage, but even with a decent (better) set of all-seasons, the car is a lot of fun! We got our at MSRP too, but also had to argue with the dealer (who wanted a $1,000 ADM) to get it though.
Similar experience here. I had a 2021 Bolt LT. GM gave me an exchange of collateral because of the battery recall. I now have a 2023 Bolt EV 2LT with the entertainment package. I think it's the best bang for the buck right now in the EV world.
I feel for the current car buyer. When we bought ours, GM had $8500 on the hood and the dealer had another $4500. Of course the MSRP was a lot higher on the 2020 unfortunately.
26k seems high. As long as that credit is available, worthwhile considering! I think the Leaf would be my choice. I like how they plan to always offer $3000 range battery replacement. Chevrolet just sats F You!
Thank you for the usual TFL transparency regarding your buying process. More people need to be willing to walk away if the dealer is pulling shenanigans (Market adjustments, dealer packages, etc). This is especially egregious considering this is an entry level economy vehicle. Not only are you spending extra money but you are hurting other potential buyers.
Videos like this are a prime example of your transparency. The dealer sold you that vehicle at MSRP but you had to go through a lot of hassle to get it. I wonder if you can find out how much,if any profit, GM makes on these vehicles. Thanks guys
GM has to be making some kind of profit on these cars. 1. They only increased the MSRP by $900 which based on demand and the tax incentives they could have increased much more. 2. They plan on increasing production from about 22,000 in 2022 to 70000. You dont triple production of an economy car that is losing money unless there is some other strong incentive.
They make couple if thousands on this car, they all do. Don't believe that they break even. They can afford to pay Mary Bara $40 million a year salary ,and for what, so her grandkids don't ever need to work. Bastards
No complaints on my '23 Chevy Bolt EUV Premier. I had to order my Bolt from a dealer in Phoenix, AZ. It took 3 months to deliver and no mark-ups or add-ons. They even included tinted windows and door guards for free. My brother just picked one up at the same dealer and same deal. Now my sister has one on order and my brother in California has one too.
We have a first gen. Bolt in our company fleet & I always try to check it out when available. I agree with all the positive & negative things you talked about. The acceleration is very good onto highway traffic. The Bolt is over 4 years old & has held up very well with the amount of use it gets. I did consider buying one when it first came out but, it was higher than the Prius plugin I bought instead with the credits. It is amazing to me that Chevy lowered the price so much. After watching your video am now consider buying one if I can find it for the list price. I also will add that the test drive you took is actually part of my daily commute & the parking lot often where I go to hike after work. Plus, the range & acceleration I find is great heading up the Canyon to Ned & the regen braking almost completely gets the battery back up to full charge on the way back down. We also have an older Leaf in the fleet & the only way to get up & down the Canyon without range anxiety is to top it off @ charging station.
Up where i live, dealer markups are actually illegal. When the dealer gets you though is on the additions they put on the car that you don't seem to have control over….lock nuts for the alloys, vin etching on the panels, etc etc. Due to no inventory up here you do buy at the MSRP, and the only real negotiating tool is on your trade…if you have one.
Got my 2023 Bolt 2LT in November, love it so much. The added sound system, heated seats/steering wheel, adaptive cruise and surround view camera are amazing. My dealer sells EVs at MSRP only so I was very lucky, got it for right under $31k!
Great review, Tommy! I own a 2017 and I love it. It is, as you say, AWFUL in snow with the stock tires, but a good set of snow tires totally solved that for me (with diminished range, but added peace of mind)
The stock tires are even bad in rain, and we burned through them pretty quickly. I didn't even try using them in snow and immediately ordered a set of 16" winters.
If you have a Costco membership, apparently Costco has contracts with dealerships to lock in strict pricing requirements. According to Reddit, AAA does the same thing. That might make it a little easier to get it at sticker.
To your #1 complaint I found that same issue of dealers selling well over MSRP in the greater Spokane WA area -even down to Seattle. $2k or more over retail -most of what I see listed is 30 grand.
Thanks for your thoughts, Tommy -- and "well done," as usual. The slow DC charging is a real deal-killer for some folks -- range almost doesn't matter if the charging is so slow. They might as well give you half the battery, as you'll mostly use it as a "commuter car." I always keep in mind "apartment renters" who will have no hope of AC "charging at home" -- and they'll be stuck with slow DC charging. Yes, this is fine for those who can charge it at home and drive locally, but you'll be wasting hours of your life on road trips. Thanks also for your thoughts about the seats. Yes, I've heard that the new seats are better, but the old seats were historically abominable. There are actually some manufacturers who have figured out how to specify seats that properly fit human bodies -- and from the cheapest to the most expensive models, their seats have the same basic design. Materials and cosmetic design varies over the price ranges, but you just don't get a car that you won't be comfortable sitting in. How on EARTH "basic" can it POSSIBLY be to just "specify seats that fit human bodies" to some of these vehicle manufacturers? I have been going to the yearly Auto Shows since a decade or more before Tommy was even born, and I have always tried to sit in the cars that I've been interested in. It's just astonishing at how uncomfortable some of these seats have been. As I have gotten older, NOTHING is as important as having a comfortable driver seat. And buying an inexpensive car shouldn't have to be "sitting in a penalty box" every minute you drive it.
That battery really does offset most of those issues . . . and you #1 issue with the car was really a dealership/manufacturer issue that you can hardly avoid. Good review, Tommy . . . nice to see something other than a Lightning or Hummer video (i am so over them!).
The battery gauge does show state of charge in 5% increments. There are 20 notches just like there are in the display that you thought was okay, so I’m not sure why you didn’t figure that out. And you don’t count the bars, you just deduct 5% for each missing bar.
We found a 2LT. Now to see if they can actually sell it. Small dealer in south central Kentucky. It was originally I tended to be a demo model for GM. This is a 2023 EUV.
Just bought a 2023 Bolt 2LT and got the $7500 tax credit. Only have 300 miles on it but love it. I also own a 2014 Nissan Leaf with only 70 mile range so this 259 range is fantastic!
There’s 2 of these on the used car lot near me and they are asking 48k Canadian with 12k kms on the car. Still much cheaper than the 85k teslas asking for a model y long range
thats awesome. More car brands need to stat making cars like this. I hope you test the shit out of this. I want to know ALL the ins and outs. I'm really looking forward to your vids on this.
Another good review from Tommy! 1,000% agree on the dealership situation in this country. I love my Ioniq 5, but the opportunity to buy direct from manufacturer next time will likely sway what I purchase.
I have a 2017 Bolt. Love it. My biggest complaint is no over the air updates. Every time Chevrolet has a software update I have to have the dealership do it. To me that is stupid
I agree about the ideal set up point... This is exactly what I did. A Chevy Bolt EUV for daily around the town runs, which are about 95% of our use, and a Toyota Highlander for longer trips, larger loads, or if I need to carry up to 7 people.
Agree with all your points on Bolt. I especially agree about dealer experience-and it applies to almost all of them. It’s not so much the markup, but it is the intentional ways sales people mislead on price. Had similar experience when told, “yes, we will sell at MSRP”, but then only discover the dealer add-ons. Don’t know what you got in your Colorado Package, but for about the same price you can get the nitrogen filled tires option in So Cal.
The seesaw in the trunk was the Colorado options. 😂 on a serious note this was very thorough and brings up a good point that dealers are still marking cars up and interest rates are no where close to being good anymore.
They are nearly impossible to find in the deep south/southeast. You can order them, but you won't find them on dealer lots. You can find used ones, but they often have 30k miles and still being sold at or very near to MSRP. If you want a Bolt EUV with Super Cruise, you're going to pay way more than MSRP. I've seen them listed as high as the mid $50k range, though usually they're more like low to mid 40s, still above MSRP.
I love your ideal 2 car setup. My wife and I have a 2019 F150 Ecoboost, 2019 Subaru Outback, and I’m picking up a 2023 Bolt as a commuter car. The Ford is my current daily.
Thank you! So often, the $7500 tax credit is portrayed as a given for everyone. Excellent explanation. We've had our Bolt EUV Premier for about a month. We love it! We traded in our Transit Connect Wagon because we were planning to put hand controls on our next car. With one-pedal driving, we won't need them. Our battery has never conditioned itself so far, even during the Christmas blizzard (Michigan). I called the service center at our dealer and left a message; we haven't heard back yet.
@David Walker We want to get as much life from our battery as possible. Proper conditioning seems to be an important aspect. I just want to make sure we're treating our new car right.
@@lizburgess4398 gotcha, I'm also a Bolt owner so welcome to the club! Your car will take care if the battery conditioning (heating or cooling as needed) I think it is more aggressive with this if it is left plugged in, so on the coldest of days here in Minnesota I'm sure to keep it plugged in as I'm able. Just don't charge to 100% if you don't need the extra range. Shoot for around 80% daily charge if you can.
I understand what you say about the two car set up but for 2 or 3 road trips a year a suburban is overkill for daily use (unless you have a big family ). I say just rent a car for long trips. Much cheaper.
Great video - the battery is great for the price of the car, incredible- the charging is very very slow though. Makes it not great for raod tripping, Great commuter and urban oriented car !
Subbed to your channel, love it. I want to start my own channel called Burnt Rubber. Going to the Toronto auto show in February, hoping to see some sick EVs and hybrids.
@@mauriceetal1426 Do it! It has been so fun and really is adding some spark to my life. Shoot me a message when you start it and I will be you first sub. I really like that name too. The LA auto show had some really cool EVS sevral years back I am sure there are even more now. Are you going to feature all kinds of cars?
Hated when this dealerships add packages to the sticker price. $400 for nitrogen in the tires? I never pay for all that crap. I tell them to take it off or won’t buy the vehicle.
Why is there so much confusion with the new EV credits? It’s not a tax liability thing. It is a fully refundable rebate you get when you do your taxes and next year it’s cash on the hood.
I find the refreshed bolt styling attractive. I also like that the dash has some brightwork trim on it. 250 miles of range is plenty for me for almost all my uses. The battery charge grid works just fine for the charge level. 100 miles of range per hour is a little low, but it can work for me. Especially at this price point. Most of my charging would take place at home anyway, and even level 1 charging could work a lot of the time. Say I only get one level 2 Charger and I have 2 electric vehicles, I could prioritize which one gets the level 2 charge based on our usage need.
Yep, the 250 mile range will work for us. And, we’d just plan on planning longer trips to 400 or so miles a day. And, we have solar on the roof of our house and can’t wait to be able to drive past expensive and dirty gas stations.
just so you know, 250 miles ranges doesn't mean you can drive that long on a single charge. as you can see in the video screen, he used 30% for heating, and 70% for driving. meaning that his current charge's range is 175 miles. If you want to set a charging limit to 80% to protect your battery, then the range is even shorter.
@@yili9725 250 miles is my benchmark. I am well aware of the large hit fore the using heating system. And I am also accounting for the 80% charging protocol. That is why I set my benchmark at 250 instead of 180 or 200. Most of the time my trips will be between 10 to 60 miles round trip. Occasionally up to 100 or 120. And my bladder no longer will last for more than 250 miles anyway. And I have no problem stopping every 100 to 150 miles for the bathroom break and to stretch my legs and get a snack or something to drink. My days of running the tank dry before I stop are over. I am much more relaxed in my driving than I used to be. Call it the gray hair mode of driving. I no longer am in such a hurry. But I do still like to stomp on it from time to time, but my wife makes an excellent speed minder. And I keep my speed minder alarm set in my van at 75 so to avoid participating in the blue light sweepstakes. Apparently, I still like to test out its function on a semi regular basis. My entertainment is to watch the instant mpg readout and see how I can keep both the mpg and mph numbers up at the same time.
I heard a reviewer describe the Bolt as a solid car that just so happens to be electric. About the lack of SOC complaint, I feel like this was part of that goal. ICE cars don't tell you what percentage of gas you have left, so this one doesn't either. I'm buying one myself, and I am ok with this. The visual for battery fullness plus range estimate is more important than a percentage for me
I wouldn’t mind one of those, though I’d option it differently. #1. No comfort or confidence packages #2. The dual rate charge cord #3. The light up charge port #4. Black, it would need to be painted black!
Have a used Suburban and a new Bolt EUV. You are right about that being an excellent combination. Bolt's low beams are not bright enough. Otherwise, I love my Bolt.
I considered one, but the 2LT trim. I think that, for the price, it is the best EV available today. I did not went through with the purchase because it was right at the time that all the cars were grounded waiting on replacement batteries due to the recall. When they were ready again I had already given into an impulse buy of a Jeep Gladiator Mojave 🤣🤣 - I went to the complete opposite of the savings spectrum...
They actually took the keyless entry buttons off the back doors somewhere between 2017 and 2020. The tax credit is slated to change on April 18, so you can get $7500 back by taking delivery at least through April 17. I got the rear cargo mat after I bought my 2020, the box it comes in is perfect for storing the floor bit in. It spent 3 years in my attic, I only took it out and put it back in the car to trade it in on an EUV. You should realize that the $7500 Tax Credit has a lot to do with the amount that dealers are marking up cars. Just wait until April 18 and watch the ADM disappear. (I've seen anywhere from $2000 to $7500 markup.)
Tommy is getting to look and sound more and more like Roman. Both excellent reviewers. I have Kia Soul ev and love it. What I don't like about evs is: 1. No spare tire. If you can't patch the tire yourself you'll need a tow. 2.If the 12v battery dies so does your car and you'll need a tow. Both 1 and 2 has happened to me. Keep a portable battery powered 12v jumper in your trunk. With an ICE car you can tell when the 12V is weak when you crank the starter. In an EV I can't tell when the 12v is weak. It just dies without warning.
I would buy a electric vehicle but there's zero charging stations in my rural area. Also it would be complicating charging it at home. Hopefully that infrastructure bill they passed has money to install charging stations In rural areas.
Your #1 gripe 17:00 is dependent on location, time of year, and cuts both ways. Here in CA, during the fall sell-a-thon, Chevy dealerships dump these same Bolts for just a few hundred dollars one-pay lease. You can’t get that from fixed-MSRP non human website sales.
I love my 2020Bolt EV Premier. Mine gets it's new battery in about a week and a half. As far as road tripping. The Bolt does just fine. We take our time and are able to plan our charge stops largely around meal breaks. My Partner and I live in N.E. Ohio and have driven ours from home to Santa Monica Pier in CA and back to Chicago and home again via Route 66. The Bolt is more than capable of being a cross country EV. I will say that the 2022 and up Bolt is not a new generation car. It's a Mid Cycle enhancement where all of it's changes are purely cosmetic.
Colorado package for 799. 100% profit for typing it in and providing absolutely zero in return. The worm will turn and there's a herd of consumers just waiting to feast on dealers when they are down. Good!
I have a 2019 Bolt with the new battery. The 259 mile range is with the battery full charge at 80%. This plus the slower charge rate (that you noticed) should allow the battery to last for decades. It was the price that hooked me. I believe the cheapest Tesla that I could get online was $42K, and that was with rear wheel drive which I don't like in the winter.. You are right, the tires are scary. I just shelled out $750 for Blizzak tires and now it's the best winter car I've ever had. If you have 2 cars and can charge at home, it's kind of stupid to waste $200 to $300 dollars per month on gasoline, when you can get a new car for almost the same price. (my opinion here)
The original low rolling resistance eco tires on my 2012 Nissan LEAF were downright dangerous on snow and ice. I got rid of them after the first winter for superior all season tires and didn't see any drop in range but much better handling.
Bought my Bolt EV Premier new in 2018 and drove it for 22,882 miles. Had to replace the 12v battery in 2021 other than that no issues (for the record 3yr old 12v replacement is not an Issue). With all the high voltage battery hoopla I saw an opportunity. I entered into the repurchase program. GM did replace the HV battery during the repurchase process. After much work and frustration, I was able to get a 2022 Bolt EUV launch edition at a cost to me of $350. I thought the 2018 was a great vehicle for what it was and the 2022 is as well, cheap version as well. This EUV is much more refined. I use it for a work vehicle short trippin during the week and basic errands on weekends. Sure, the seats could be better. Overall people who do their homework on EV's, understand the learning curve, for the money the Bolt is a steal considering car prices these days. Now I don't buy into the "Better for the planet" BullSh*t because it is simply not true. It's fun to drive and with a home charger well, who wouldn't like a gas station in their garage. I average $23 a month to charge it and wake up to a full charge. For me, and I believe many others it's simply a no brainer.
Looking forward in about 3 years to buying my first EV and videos like yours really help. I also like the Bolt EUV it has more space and certainly appeals to small families. Here in Canada there is a fed law concerning MSRP, the dealer can't sell for more .. but they sure try with options and add-ons. It's funny to see on marketplace and dealer websites some popular EV's like Tesla actually cost more on the used market then they cost new.. even if they are 2 years old! It's this crazy post covid, it's driven people mad! Lol.
It will be 50K by then😂😂 I wasnt exactly ready to go EV but I knew if I didnt jump on a lightning in the first year, I would immediately be priced out. And sure enough, the sticker price went up 10K before it hit the lot, and went up almost another 10K in the next model year (2023). The 2022 lightning started at around 35k and is now around 65k. It is crazy
19:51 yeah, but that bolt's price was unquestionably hurting it's sales. especially with, what was, the tesla model 3 in such close proximity. I would also bet there's probably quite a nice profit margin on this. again, R&D is paid off, the battery pack isn't huge, and that's the most expensive part of the car. So, I wouldn't be surprised if this had the same overhead as a low level crossover or medium sedan.
im in canada and these days having to buy from a dealer really blows, i really wish we could just buy direct from the manufacturer off the website for the stated price no more sleazy sales man, no more dealers trying to rip you off, just this is the price. the "dealers" should just have a few of each vehicles and then you can go there and test drive them, you pick the one you likes, you order it, pay for it, and it shows up in your driveway in a few days to a few weeks ( these days in months sadly haha but still)
Another good thing about the Bolt is it doesnt have that annoying thing where the door handles get an erection whenever you try to walk by in the garage and get jabbed in the side.
What is needed is exactly what Chevy is doing ~ All the major car makers need to make a low price electric car just like VW did back in the day with gas powered cars ~ A car that is affordable and gets the people off the gas pump ~ Thanks for your review ~
I bought one 12/31 forget auto tempest the hardest thing is FINDING one not spoken for. Call the dealers found one 75 miles away I got a 1lt with the convenience package for MSRP 29585$ the dealer had 3 by the time I completed the deal the other 2 had buyers All the website cars were gone..
Tesla is making 25% profit, while other manufacturers make 5% but it's so much more enjoyable to pay what they tell me to pay at Tesla than refusing to pay what they tell me at a dealer.... At least everyone gets screwed fairly at Tesla, that is until they drop the prices 20% without notice.
I wouldn't take advice from these haters in comments that have never been in a EV, I've driven & worked on gassers for decades. It makes a great 1st car or only car. How to deal with dealerships is a different channel.
So, you suggest a Bolt *and* a Suburban. This means paying two times the registration and insurance. But why if I can do all the driving and commuting in the Suburban, in more comfort and safety than the Bolt offers?
My spark ev heater is much faster at putting out heat than a gas car. Since it isn't burning liquid and has so much less mechanical friction, no massive heater making the ac work hard, ice cold easily.
The tax credit is stupid. The people that need an under 20k car, are not making enough for the tax credit to even matter. The people that can take advantage of it, can afford those much pricier EVs (the makers of which conveniently raise their prices by … oh idk… 5-7k… funny isn’t it?)
I agree with your ideal 2 car garage. Especially a diesel suburban, great highway cruiser that do some work and haul people and a great city vehicle for daily use.
it charges pretty fast even with a 40 amp lvl 2 charger also i got a 2022 bolt euv limtited edtion for 26 k off the lot after trade in and some discounts and cash down turn the chevy dealership into chevy they dont put up with markup
You never mentioned that the range is is close to minimum reading. So 245 miles range is about 210 miles in the cool fall weather. In the winter like now, would be 160 miles. Level 3 fast charging is only 49kW if the battery is near empty. Majority of other times the charge rate drops to 27kW. Aive 75% it’s only 19kW. So it takes more than two hours to charge in a fast Level 3 charging station. I saw all other makes like MarchE, model Y, Ionic left in half an hour, I am still at the station charging
Tommy, you’ve come a long way in your UA-cam career. I remember a while back when Roman first got you in front of the camera and you would stutter and stammer your way through your thoughts and now you’re just rocking it all day. Just wanted to say Great Job!
Thanks for the kind words
I totally agree you have come a long way kid and you really nailed this video about the Bolt.....Keep'em coming Tommy!
Lol kind words 😅 🤦♂️
With the 1LT I think adding the comfort and convenience package with the heated seats and leather steering wheel is a worthwhile upgrade. Not only is it just nice to have heated seats but in a pinch they can help with range/efficiency as they use far less energy than the heater.
You are absolutely right
Yep. That’s how I price it out. I’ve got Leaf with heated steering wheel and seats and not going back.
Ya heated seats from what I hear is basically a necessity
@@Milhouse77BS Same. I had a '15 Leaf SL with the Premium Pkg. I would pre-condition the cabin while plugged in then use the heated and cooled seats while driving. I did have to use the A/C in the Summer here in Vegas (120 degrees), but almost never used the heat in the Winter.
I’ve had the 2022 2LT for 8 months and over 15,000 miles with some light road trips. The heated seats and steering wheel are basically on all the time in the winter, very nice and a must have for me.
No issues or visits to the dealership for anything so far. I rotate my own tires and do underbody wash once a week when salt is on the road.
Love it, save for the DCFC, but it always works.
Mainly a commuter.
Honestly, you need to find a better dealer. They do exist. I walked into my local dealer, ordered an F150 for MSRP and was out in a half hour with no hassle. They asked me if I wanted anything added to it or done to it, laid out there options, I said no thanks, and that was it. No pressure, just laying out the options and asking me to make a decision. When the truck came in, they had all my paperwork ready, saleswoman even texted me a picture of my truck off as it came off the transport at 9pm! 30-40 minutes of paperwork, brief intro to the truck, and I was driving home. Good dealers are like any good business, they are worth having them in your community.
Thank you Tommy for doing videos on a lower cost EV. I think why most people don't like EVs is because they think they need to spend a lot of money to purchase an EV. Just to let you know air flows over a car better if it has a sloped back. This is very important for an EV..
But no one wants to look like a loser driving something like this lol. You could get a bronco sport for similar money and look good.
@@EpicConspiracy Not everyone suffers from tiny dick vehicular overcompensation syndrome and has to try to look like a butchy boy in their Tonka toy.
@@EpicConspiracy Yeah or I can blow that bronco sport away with my lightning, with good looks to spare and no gas....👍👍
Excellent video Tommy. By far the most detailed, even handed, capable and enjoyable TFL presenter.
agree. i tend to skip other tfl videos but if it's relevant to what i need and Tommy's presenting, I listen. Nice job!
Agreed. Tommy and Andre are the two top presenters for TFL. No nonsense, just the facts. I like this.
Kase is also up there
His 2 car set up was funny. My daily is a 2017 Chevy Bolt, and my long range family trip vehicle is a 99 GMC Suburban.
Bolt EUV is the best bargain for EV today!
I tried 3 times in 2022 to buy the chevy bolt ev at sticker price without any markups and long story short I'm still in my old car. I've even gone to the chevy website configured my car and contacted the dealership of choice, by the time the details got to the dealership the markups had already been added. I just gave up, but your videos on the bolt have given me new strength to go and find a new bolt
It took me 3 dealerships & some talking, finally a conprimise
Regarding the "two car setup"... If you're only road tripping 3 or 4 times a year, it's FAR less expensive to rent a second car. Buy the Bolt, rent the Suburban.
Leave the gun take the cannolis
I like the way that the screen is built into the dash, like it is meant to be there, not just plonked on top like an after thought.
I love my Chevy Volt. It fits my use case perfectly - I road trip a lot since both my family and my wife's family live in other states, but if we ever have a need for a second car, it's almost certainly going to be a Bolt
I miss my volt. It got totaled in a wreck last year.
I like my volt but honestly, it's not an ev. It's a hybrid with a slightly bigger battery. My 2016 gets 38mile ev range in the winter and 46 in the summer. I kinda regret buying it, despite it being a pretty good car. I'm waiting till the equinox ev rolls out and the volt will be traded in.
I have that exact combo and it works extremely well
I bought a Bolt EUV last week and we decided to keep our Volt and trade our Hyundai Tucson. We originally planned on trading the Volt but both my wife and I like it too much. It will make long road trips a little more difficult as we will have to decide between comfort in the Bolt and traveling time which is obviously better in the Volt.
I purchased the euv premiere with super cruise, from driving my escalade 120 miles a day I'm saving over $1000 a month and now due for oil change if it was a ice at 5k miles and all I have to do is rotate tires for free at most tire shops my escalade would be over $100 to do maintenance on at this point. I absolutely love this car and the savings involved
Great review. We ended up purchasing our 2022 bolt EUV premier with sun and sound package at sticker. I had to drive over an hour away, but I finally found a dealer that was going to give it to me at sticker unlike the other 4 dealers in my local area that were charging anywhere between $2000-$5000 markups.
@Enrique A Thiele Solivan we bought a 2023 euv in GA, and had to call SO many dealers to get it at msrp
BTW, when we ordered our 2023 Bolt EUV last August, the dealership tried to tack on a $1000 markup and we said no thanks and they said ok, no markup. We got it delivered in November.
I actually bought one version of the "extra warranty" this time. For $700, we got unlimited PDR, windshield replacements and remote fob replacements. A replacement windshield alone would cost more with the safety equipment calibrations. I live in CO and it's not if you crack your windshield but when.
I wish Tommy had discussed what the warranty is for a new Bolt. I believe GM is standing behind the new traction battery, but what about the rest of the car? I owned two Chevy's many years ago, and both were lemons that I got rid of after a few years. I drive my Japanese cars 10+ years until they fall apart, and plan to do the same for my current 2017 Hyundai hybrid unless I trade it in for a Hyundai or Kia EV. Warranties matter!
Tommy, you nailed it. Just bought a Bolt EUV for my wonderful wife, she loves it, only drives about 100 miles a week, I about fell over when you said you did 400 miles in 48 hours. Also got a kick out of your comments about this being a one of two vehicles. We drive our Suburban on the long trips and the Bolt around town. Bolt, is not a freeway car for sure, but around town it is wonderful.
19:34 I agree 100%. A vehicle is a transportation device, why care if the dash feels plastic? I only care if the tech is good and reliable. Thanks for the video.
Got the launch edition EUV as a daily driver
It's worth every penny, especially supercruise. Big difference between snows and all season ev tires with traction and overall distance traveled. Safety comes first, then drivable miles
It's FRIDAY 🙏...HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE ✌️
We have a 2LT, and it seems to solve most (if not all) of your complaints. And the 360 camera in it is better than the one in our Mach-E (it's fantastic). The exception is the charge rate. It's why we have a Mach-E (which we use for longer road trips). We do take the Bolt on daytrips--if you only need one charging stop, you just make that a sit-down meal, and it's not a big deal (it's good to go when you're done eating). 🙂
We're huge fans (it's our 2nd Bolt--our first was a 2018, and our current is a '22). The stock tires are hot garbage, but even with a decent (better) set of all-seasons, the car is a lot of fun!
We got our at MSRP too, but also had to argue with the dealer (who wanted a $1,000 ADM) to get it though.
Similar experience here. I had a 2021 Bolt LT. GM gave me an exchange of collateral because of the battery recall. I now have a 2023 Bolt EV 2LT with the entertainment package. I think it's the best bang for the buck right now in the EV world.
@@justinschultz4325 we got a buyback on our '18. Offer was way too good to pass up! 🙂
We have been very happy with both generations of Bolt though
I feel for the current car buyer. When we bought ours, GM had $8500 on the hood and the dealer had another $4500. Of course the MSRP was a lot higher on the 2020 unfortunately.
We have a Bolt and a Mach-e also. AND Solar Panels. We love all three.
26k seems high. As long as that credit is available, worthwhile considering! I think the Leaf would be my choice. I like how they plan to always offer $3000 range battery replacement. Chevrolet just sats F You!
Thank you for the usual TFL transparency regarding your buying process. More people need to be willing to walk away if the dealer is pulling shenanigans (Market adjustments, dealer packages, etc). This is especially egregious considering this is an entry level economy vehicle. Not only are you spending extra money but you are hurting other potential buyers.
Videos like this are a prime example of your transparency. The dealer sold you that vehicle at MSRP but you had to go through a lot of hassle to get it. I wonder if you can find out how much,if any profit, GM makes on these vehicles. Thanks guys
GM has to be making some kind of profit on these cars.
1. They only increased the MSRP by $900 which based on demand and the tax incentives they could have increased much more.
2. They plan on increasing production from about 22,000 in 2022 to 70000.
You dont triple production of an economy car that is losing money unless there is some other strong incentive.
@@cmbakerxx that's good info buddy. Thanks
They make couple if thousands on this car, they all do. Don't believe that they break even. They can afford to pay Mary Bara $40 million a year salary ,and for what, so her grandkids don't ever need to work. Bastards
@@tonyn3227 that's a very good point
They make about $4600/car
No complaints on my '23 Chevy Bolt EUV Premier. I had to order my Bolt from a dealer in Phoenix, AZ. It took 3 months to deliver and no mark-ups or add-ons. They even included tinted windows and door guards for free. My brother just picked one up at the same dealer and same deal. Now my sister has one on order and my brother in California has one too.
We have a first gen. Bolt in our company fleet & I always try to check it out when available. I agree with all the positive & negative things you talked about. The acceleration is very good onto highway traffic. The Bolt is over 4 years old & has held up very well with the amount of use it gets. I did consider buying one when it first came out but, it was higher than the Prius plugin I bought instead with the credits. It is amazing to me that Chevy lowered the price so much. After watching your video am now consider buying one if I can find it for the list price. I also will add that the test drive you took is actually part of my daily commute & the parking lot often where I go to hike after work. Plus, the range & acceleration I find is great heading up the Canyon to Ned & the regen braking almost completely gets the battery back up to full charge on the way back down. We also have an older Leaf in the fleet & the only way to get up & down the Canyon without range anxiety is to top it off @ charging station.
Up where i live, dealer markups are actually illegal. When the dealer gets you though is on the additions they put on the car that you don't seem to have control over….lock nuts for the alloys, vin etching on the panels, etc etc. Due to no inventory up here you do buy at the MSRP, and the only real negotiating tool is on your trade…if you have one.
Got my 2023 Bolt 2LT in November, love it so much. The added sound system, heated seats/steering wheel, adaptive cruise and surround view camera are amazing. My dealer sells EVs at MSRP only so I was very lucky, got it for right under $31k!
Where is this
Great review, Tommy! I own a 2017 and I love it. It is, as you say, AWFUL in snow with the stock tires, but a good set of snow tires totally solved that for me (with diminished range, but added peace of mind)
The stock tires are even bad in rain, and we burned through them pretty quickly. I didn't even try using them in snow and immediately ordered a set of 16" winters.
If you have a Costco membership, apparently Costco has contracts with dealerships to lock in strict pricing requirements. According to Reddit, AAA does the same thing. That might make it a little easier to get it at sticker.
To your #1 complaint I found that same issue of dealers selling well over MSRP in the greater Spokane WA area -even down to Seattle. $2k or more over retail -most of what I see listed is 30 grand.
Thanks for your thoughts, Tommy -- and "well done," as usual. The slow DC charging is a real deal-killer for some folks -- range almost doesn't matter if the charging is so slow. They might as well give you half the battery, as you'll mostly use it as a "commuter car." I always keep in mind "apartment renters" who will have no hope of AC "charging at home" -- and they'll be stuck with slow DC charging. Yes, this is fine for those who can charge it at home and drive locally, but you'll be wasting hours of your life on road trips.
Thanks also for your thoughts about the seats. Yes, I've heard that the new seats are better, but the old seats were historically abominable. There are actually some manufacturers who have figured out how to specify seats that properly fit human bodies -- and from the cheapest to the most expensive models, their seats have the same basic design. Materials and cosmetic design varies over the price ranges, but you just don't get a car that you won't be comfortable sitting in. How on EARTH "basic" can it POSSIBLY be to just "specify seats that fit human bodies" to some of these vehicle manufacturers? I have been going to the yearly Auto Shows since a decade or more before Tommy was even born, and I have always tried to sit in the cars that I've been interested in. It's just astonishing at how uncomfortable some of these seats have been. As I have gotten older, NOTHING is as important as having a comfortable driver seat. And buying an inexpensive car shouldn't have to be "sitting in a penalty box" every minute you drive it.
Definitely true about age, my mom's friend bought a new Subaru that has killed her back. Cushions help, but still not perfect
That battery really does offset most of those issues . . . and you #1 issue with the car was really a dealership/manufacturer issue that you can hardly avoid.
Good review, Tommy . . . nice to see something other than a Lightning or Hummer video (i am so over them!).
The battery gauge does show state of charge in 5% increments. There are 20 notches just like there are in the display that you thought was okay, so I’m not sure why you didn’t figure that out. And you don’t count the bars, you just deduct 5% for each missing bar.
We found a 2LT. Now to see if they can actually sell it. Small dealer in south central Kentucky. It was originally I tended to be a demo model for GM. This is a 2023 EUV.
Hey Tommy, there is a local dealer in St Louis that has 132 1LT’s in stock and are selling under sticker. Seriously considering one of these.
Just bought a 2023 Bolt 2LT and got the $7500 tax credit. Only have 300 miles on it but love it. I also own a 2014 Nissan Leaf with only 70 mile range so this 259 range is fantastic!
I have the 1LT with convenience package….love the Bolt. Way to go GM!
Good show. The dealership rules are state laws. So they do vary place to place.
There’s 2 of these on the used car lot near me and they are asking 48k Canadian with 12k kms on the car. Still much cheaper than the 85k teslas asking for a model y long range
thats awesome. More car brands need to stat making cars like this. I hope you test the shit out of this. I want to know ALL the ins and outs. I'm really looking forward to your vids on this.
Going to add good Winter tires and test them? That would be a great video. 👍
Another good review from Tommy! 1,000% agree on the dealership situation in this country. I love my Ioniq 5, but the opportunity to buy direct from manufacturer next time will likely sway what I purchase.
Ioniq 5= GARBAGE
Dont buy a tesla
Just got a Toyota BZ4X and I wish I could have bought it directly from the manufacturer. The dealer added very little to the transaction.
I have a 2017 Bolt. Love it. My biggest complaint is no over the air updates. Every time Chevrolet has a software update I have to have the dealership do it. To me that is stupid
Agreed. Or they could make the update owner-installed using a USB drive like I can do on my Ford truck.
I agree about the ideal set up point... This is exactly what I did. A Chevy Bolt EUV for daily around the town runs, which are about 95% of our use, and a Toyota Highlander for longer trips, larger loads, or if I need to carry up to 7 people.
The false flooring the cargo area is designed to drop down to the floor when not in use. That may help with your dog 🐕 🙏 🙂
Agree with all your points on Bolt. I especially agree about dealer experience-and it applies to almost all of them. It’s not so much the markup, but it is the intentional ways sales people mislead on price. Had similar experience when told, “yes, we will sell at MSRP”, but then only discover the dealer add-ons. Don’t know what you got in your Colorado Package, but for about the same price you can get the nitrogen filled tires option in So Cal.
Awesome video. Very helpful since I'm also going to try to buy the base model.
The seesaw in the trunk was the Colorado options. 😂 on a serious note this was very thorough and brings up a good point that dealers are still marking cars up and interest rates are no where close to being good anymore.
My dog had the same problem with the back cover panel on my 2020 model.
They are nearly impossible to find in the deep south/southeast. You can order them, but you won't find them on dealer lots. You can find used ones, but they often have 30k miles and still being sold at or very near to MSRP. If you want a Bolt EUV with Super Cruise, you're going to pay way more than MSRP. I've seen them listed as high as the mid $50k range, though usually they're more like low to mid 40s, still above MSRP.
I love your ideal 2 car setup. My wife and I have a 2019 F150 Ecoboost, 2019 Subaru Outback, and I’m picking up a 2023 Bolt as a commuter car. The Ford is my current daily.
Thank you! So often, the $7500 tax credit is portrayed as a given for everyone. Excellent explanation. We've had our Bolt EUV Premier for about a month. We love it! We traded in our Transit Connect Wagon because we were planning to put hand controls on our next car. With one-pedal driving, we won't need them. Our battery has never conditioned itself so far, even during the Christmas blizzard (Michigan). I called the service center at our dealer and left a message; we haven't heard back yet.
Why are you concerned your Bolt needs maintenance?
@David Walker We want to get as much life from our battery as possible. Proper conditioning seems to be an important aspect. I just want to make sure we're treating our new car right.
@@lizburgess4398 gotcha, I'm also a Bolt owner so welcome to the club! Your car will take care if the battery conditioning (heating or cooling as needed) I think it is more aggressive with this if it is left plugged in, so on the coldest of days here in Minnesota I'm sure to keep it plugged in as I'm able. Just don't charge to 100% if you don't need the extra range. Shoot for around 80% daily charge if you can.
I understand what you say about the two car set up but for 2 or 3 road trips a year a suburban is overkill for daily use (unless you have a big family ). I say just rent a car for long trips. Much cheaper.
"you have to buy the fake package" there are new laws coming to stop these liars
Great video guys!
Great video - the battery is great for the price of the car, incredible- the charging is very very slow though. Makes it not great for raod tripping, Great commuter and urban oriented car !
Subbed to your channel, love it. I want to start my own channel called Burnt Rubber. Going to the Toronto auto show in February, hoping to see some sick EVs and hybrids.
@@mauriceetal1426 Do it! It has been so fun and really is adding some spark to my life. Shoot me a message when you start it and I will be you first sub. I really like that name too. The LA auto show had some really cool EVS sevral years back I am sure there are even more now. Are you going to feature all kinds of cars?
@@thatevchick mostly futuristic cars like EVs and hybrids
@@mauriceetal1426 love the idea. DO IT
I'd like to see a performance version with dual motors and AWD. How fun would this little thing be with 300hp?
Yes!
I own a Bolt EUV and after 10 months, I have never spun any tires yet whether in the snow or not.
You are spot on with the car buying experience. Thanks for review!
I prefer cloth seats. Car makers should put stuff like plaid cloth or checks or something. Easy way to make it feel more special
Hated when this dealerships add packages to the sticker price. $400 for nitrogen in the tires? I never pay for all that crap. I tell them to take it off or won’t buy the vehicle.
Your most powerful bargaining tool is running shoes
Why is there so much confusion with the new EV credits? It’s not a tax liability thing. It is a fully refundable rebate you get when you do your taxes and next year it’s cash on the hood.
Tommy, just bought a Bolt based on your videos. Thanks for the reviews!!
"The modern layout, if you want less information"....
As someone who is older, it is really tempting to say something about that line... ;-)
Modern layout doesn't give you max range minimum range and standard, but is simpler
I find the refreshed bolt styling attractive. I also like that the dash has some brightwork trim on it. 250 miles of range is plenty for me for almost all my uses. The battery charge grid works just fine for the charge level. 100 miles of range per hour is a little low, but it can work for me. Especially at this price point. Most of my charging would take place at home anyway, and even level 1 charging could work a lot of the time. Say I only get one level 2 Charger and I have 2 electric vehicles, I could prioritize which one gets the level 2 charge based on our usage need.
Yep, the 250 mile range will work for us. And, we’d just plan on planning longer trips to 400 or so miles a day. And, we have solar on the roof of our house and can’t wait to be able to drive past expensive and dirty gas stations.
just so you know, 250 miles ranges doesn't mean you can drive that long on a single charge. as you can see in the video screen, he used 30% for heating, and 70% for driving. meaning that his current charge's range is 175 miles. If you want to set a charging limit to 80% to protect your battery, then the range is even shorter.
@@yili9725 250 miles is my benchmark. I am well aware of the large hit fore the using heating system. And I am also accounting for the 80% charging protocol. That is why I set my benchmark at 250 instead of 180 or 200. Most of the time my trips will be between 10 to 60 miles round trip. Occasionally up to 100 or 120. And my bladder no longer will last for more than 250 miles anyway. And I have no problem stopping every 100 to 150 miles for the bathroom break and to stretch my legs and get a snack or something to drink. My days of running the tank dry before I stop are over. I am much more relaxed in my driving than I used to be. Call it the gray hair mode of driving. I no longer am in such a hurry. But I do still like to stomp on it from time to time, but my wife makes an excellent speed minder. And I keep my speed minder alarm set in my van at 75 so to avoid participating in the blue light sweepstakes. Apparently, I still like to test out its function on a semi regular basis. My entertainment is to watch the instant mpg readout and see how I can keep both the mpg and mph numbers up at the same time.
I heard a reviewer describe the Bolt as a solid car that just so happens to be electric. About the lack of SOC complaint, I feel like this was part of that goal. ICE cars don't tell you what percentage of gas you have left, so this one doesn't either. I'm buying one myself, and I am ok with this. The visual for battery fullness plus range estimate is more important than a percentage for me
I wouldn’t mind one of those, though I’d option it differently.
#1. No comfort or confidence packages
#2. The dual rate charge cord
#3. The light up charge port
#4. Black, it would need to be painted black!
Have a used Suburban and a new Bolt EUV. You are right about that being an excellent combination. Bolt's low beams are not bright enough. Otherwise, I love my Bolt.
I considered one, but the 2LT trim. I think that, for the price, it is the best EV available today. I did not went through with the purchase because it was right at the time that all the cars were grounded waiting on replacement batteries due to the recall.
When they were ready again I had already given into an impulse buy of a Jeep Gladiator Mojave 🤣🤣 - I went to the complete opposite of the savings spectrum...
Good luck with that Jeep. They make terrible vehicles. Will cost you plenty for maintenance and of course gasoline.
They actually took the keyless entry buttons off the back doors somewhere between 2017 and 2020. The tax credit is slated to change on April 18, so you can get $7500 back by taking delivery at least through April 17.
I got the rear cargo mat after I bought my 2020, the box it comes in is perfect for storing the floor bit in. It spent 3 years in my attic, I only took it out and put it back in the car to trade it in on an EUV.
You should realize that the $7500 Tax Credit has a lot to do with the amount that dealers are marking up cars. Just wait until April 18 and watch the ADM disappear. (I've seen anywhere from $2000 to $7500 markup.)
Tommy is getting to look and sound more and more like Roman. Both excellent reviewers.
I have Kia Soul ev and love it. What I don't like about evs is: 1. No spare tire. If you can't patch the tire yourself you'll need a tow. 2.If the 12v battery dies so does your car and you'll need a tow.
Both 1 and 2 has happened to me. Keep a portable battery powered 12v jumper in your trunk. With an ICE car you can tell when the 12V is weak when you crank the starter. In an EV I can't tell when the 12v is weak. It just dies without warning.
I would buy a electric vehicle but there's zero charging stations in my rural area. Also it would be complicating charging it at home. Hopefully that infrastructure bill they passed has money to install charging stations In rural areas.
Glad you highlighted how little info is available for the state of charge. I test drove an older model and that was a HUGE issue for me.
Your #1 gripe 17:00 is dependent on location, time of year, and cuts both ways. Here in CA, during the fall sell-a-thon, Chevy dealerships dump these same Bolts for just a few hundred dollars one-pay lease. You can’t get that from fixed-MSRP non human website sales.
I love my 2020Bolt EV Premier. Mine gets it's new battery in about a week and a half. As far as road tripping. The Bolt does just fine. We take our time and are able to plan our charge stops largely around meal breaks. My Partner and I live in N.E. Ohio and have driven ours from home to Santa Monica Pier in CA and back to Chicago and home again via Route 66. The Bolt is more than capable of being a cross country EV. I will say that the 2022 and up Bolt is not a new generation car. It's a Mid Cycle enhancement where all of it's changes are purely cosmetic.
Colorado package for 799. 100% profit for typing it in and providing absolutely zero in return. The worm will turn and there's a herd of consumers just waiting to feast on dealers when they are down. Good!
You can in that year to display mychevy app with % of charge on the main display.
Colorado mandates snow tires October-February on I-25 and I-70.
Good review, thank you!
I have a 2019 Bolt with the new battery. The 259 mile range is with the battery full charge at 80%. This plus the slower charge rate (that you noticed) should allow the battery to last for decades. It was the price that hooked me. I believe the cheapest Tesla that I could get online was $42K, and that was with rear wheel drive which I don't like in the winter.. You are right, the tires are scary. I just shelled out $750 for Blizzak tires and now it's the best winter car I've ever had. If you have 2 cars and can charge at home, it's kind of stupid to waste $200 to $300 dollars per month on gasoline, when you can get a new car for almost the same price. (my opinion here)
The original low rolling resistance eco tires on my 2012 Nissan LEAF were downright dangerous on snow and ice. I got rid of them after the first winter for superior all season tires and didn't see any drop in range but much better handling.
Bought my Bolt EV Premier new in 2018 and drove it for 22,882 miles. Had to replace the 12v battery in 2021 other than that no issues (for the record 3yr old 12v replacement is not an Issue). With all the high voltage battery hoopla I saw an opportunity. I entered into the repurchase program. GM did replace the HV battery during the repurchase process. After much work and frustration, I was able to get a 2022 Bolt EUV launch edition at a cost to me of $350. I thought the 2018 was a great vehicle for what it was and the 2022 is as well, cheap version as well. This EUV is much more refined. I use it for a work vehicle short trippin during the week and basic errands on weekends. Sure, the seats could be better. Overall people who do their homework on EV's, understand the learning curve, for the money the Bolt is a steal considering car prices these days. Now I don't buy into the "Better for the planet" BullSh*t because it is simply not true. It's fun to drive and with a home charger well, who wouldn't like a gas station in their garage. I average $23 a month to charge it and wake up to a full charge. For me, and I believe many others it's simply a no brainer.
How does this compare in size to a gen 1/2 prius or nissan versa?
Except Toyota doesn't build EVs.
@@krane15 notice I said SIZE and yes toyota does have some bz4 ev junk
Looking forward in about 3 years to buying my first EV and videos like yours really help. I also like the Bolt EUV it has more space and certainly appeals to small families.
Here in Canada there is a fed law concerning MSRP, the dealer can't sell for more .. but they sure try with options and add-ons. It's funny to see on marketplace and dealer websites some popular EV's like Tesla actually cost more on the used market then they cost new.. even if they are 2 years old! It's this crazy post covid, it's driven people mad! Lol.
It will be 50K by then😂😂 I wasnt exactly ready to go EV but I knew if I didnt jump on a lightning in the first year, I would immediately be priced out. And sure enough, the sticker price went up 10K before it hit the lot, and went up almost another 10K in the next model year (2023). The 2022 lightning started at around 35k and is now around 65k. It is crazy
0:29 to be fair the R&D paydown cost on the bolt does have a decade head start on some of those other cars.
19:51 yeah, but that bolt's price was unquestionably hurting it's sales. especially with, what was, the tesla model 3 in such close proximity.
I would also bet there's probably quite a nice profit margin on this. again, R&D is paid off, the battery pack isn't huge, and that's the most expensive part of the car. So, I wouldn't be surprised if this had the same overhead as a low level crossover or medium sedan.
im in canada and these days having to buy from a dealer really blows, i really wish we could just buy direct from the manufacturer off the website for the stated price no more sleazy sales man, no more dealers trying to rip you off, just this is the price.
the "dealers" should just have a few of each vehicles and then you can go there and test drive them, you pick the one you likes, you order it, pay for it, and it shows up in your driveway in a few days to a few weeks ( these days in months sadly haha but still)
I’d love to do a long distance race with that in my 2015 Tesla Model S 85 which has less range but a bit higher charging speeds.
Another good thing about the Bolt is it doesnt have that annoying thing where the door handles get an erection whenever you try to walk by in the garage and get jabbed in the side.
GM has lost a lot of money on the Bolt, and that's not even counting the battery recall. It's why GM has now terminated production of the Bolt.
"If you can buy the car at sticker, just do it."
Paying sticker for a car is just baffling to me.
What is needed is exactly what Chevy is doing ~ All the major car makers need to make a low price electric car just like VW did back in the day with gas powered cars ~ A car that is affordable and gets the people off the gas pump ~ Thanks for your review ~
I bought one 12/31 forget auto tempest the hardest thing is FINDING one not spoken for.
Call the dealers found one 75 miles away I got a 1lt with the convenience package for MSRP 29585$ the dealer had 3 by the time I completed the deal the other 2 had buyers
All the website cars were gone..
Honestly the range should be number 1 benefit. Most German brands are getting low 200s and cost 2x or 3x.
Tesla is making 25% profit, while other manufacturers make 5% but it's so much more enjoyable to pay what they tell me to pay at Tesla than refusing to pay what they tell me at a dealer.... At least everyone gets screwed fairly at Tesla, that is until they drop the prices 20% without notice.
I just bought mine. I agree with everything you said.
I wouldn't take advice from these haters in comments that have never been in a EV, I've driven & worked on gassers for decades.
It makes a great 1st car or only car.
How to deal with dealerships is a different channel.
So, you suggest a Bolt *and* a Suburban. This means paying two times the registration and insurance. But why if I can do all the driving and commuting in the Suburban, in more comfort and safety than the Bolt offers?
I want to see a video on how the heating and air conditioner work compared to the gas car or truck
Electric vs gas vehicle climate control
They just did that with Minis like a week ago.
My spark ev heater is much faster at putting out heat than a gas car. Since it isn't burning liquid and has so much less mechanical friction, no massive heater making the ac work hard, ice cold easily.
The tax credit is stupid. The people that need an under 20k car, are not making enough for the tax credit to even matter.
The people that can take advantage of it, can afford those much pricier EVs (the makers of which conveniently raise their prices by … oh idk… 5-7k… funny isn’t it?)
My biggest gripe with the Bolt is the LG pouch cells with GM's patented "thermal synergy technology".
I agree with your ideal 2 car garage. Especially a diesel suburban, great highway cruiser that do some work and haul people and a great city vehicle for daily use.
it charges pretty fast even with a 40 amp lvl 2 charger also i got a 2022 bolt euv limtited edtion for 26 k off the lot after trade in and some discounts and cash down turn the chevy dealership into chevy they dont put up with markup
You never mentioned that the range is is close to minimum reading. So 245 miles range is about 210 miles in the cool fall weather. In the winter like now, would be 160 miles.
Level 3 fast charging is only 49kW if the battery is near empty. Majority of other times the charge rate drops to 27kW. Aive 75% it’s only 19kW. So it takes more than two hours to charge in a fast Level 3 charging station. I saw all other makes like MarchE, model Y, Ionic left in half an hour, I am still at the station charging