You never actually gave an explannation of what function in function training means and you only alluded to the idea of sports specificity. Bodybuilding isn't sport specific but the point of bodybuilding/strength training is a general type of training that applies to many different sports. Athletes in MMA for instance do bodybuilding style training like John Jones or Alistair Oveream so that they can be bigger and stronger for a higher weight class. It isn't sports specific but that is a general type of training that they need to do so that they can be better at their sport. If you want to debate/discuss this topic I'd be more than happy to have you on my channel. Message me if you're interested.
I went over what the word “functional” was used in reference to by the NSCA who stated that it is used for exercises that are more specific to performance of a task or that possess greater transferability to sport skills. Your comment on Jon jones and Oveream shows your ignorance to sports performance. Athletes will incorporate Hypertrophy cycles to increase muscle mass so that they have a great potential for power and strength, but the actual strength and power adaptations come from … training for power and strength with plyometrics and heavy free weights 😂 there’s a reason why athletes will rarely if ever use machines, stability is so important for force generation and they don’t get that from machines.
@@MartinRiosFit I don't really want to debate this in the comments section, I think this would be a really valuable discussion to have online. So are you interested in a live debate or not? Just to respond to a few of your points you admitted that bodybuilding style training is useful for these athletes, so you're admitting that this type of training is in fact "functional" or in other words sport specific enough to be useful for many sports. Power is also a function of strenght. If you increase the strength of a muscle you also concurrently increase power output. Someone who can squat 500 pounds is going to be able to produce more power than someone who can only squat 250 pounds.
@@VeganGains the thing is, linear mouvement patterns mess with the natural neuromuscular porgramming which explains why for example a lot of people feel their quads and calves while running instead of their core and glutes, and that may even cause worse coordination as a fair amount of bodybuilding routines often focus on being as "optimal" as possible (in other words some unreal isolation) for Maximum hypertrophy while leaving coordination behind, it is Like you make your body parts forget how to work together (not an entirely accurate way of explaining, but is fair enough for now), not only that but that causes fascial Adhesions and fascial tightness which is a very common cause of injuries while realistic mouvements will not cause fascial Adhesions. But TO point, you won't escape any of the aforementioned consequences with free weights but you will rather significantly mitigates the effects which makes them way better for injury prevention, and for neuromuscular porgramming it would be better if one focuses more on mouvements that are close to realistic mouvements to mitigate the mess. A couch potato has less chances of getting injured than an active person , that's why the right training is important. He doesn't clarify any of this tho, but I am just telling u why free weights could be a way better alternative to machines
I think it's somewhat "okay" to use just a few machines in your entire workout. People don't get how beneficial free weights are and even if your aiming for "hypertrophy", you can get the same results with functional movements and even get more advantages than a machine.
I really don't know why people are saying you need to lower the volume. There is no evidence proving low volume training is better than high volume, in fact it's the opposite most of the time. But I personally would change the sets to 3 and add an overhead press, and I think having more variety in rep ranges is better, so for example you could do higher reps on the tricep pushdown. I would personally remove the machine press and change it to a cable fly, since the incline bench most of the time has the same type of movement pattern as a machine press, and I don't like the machine press since it's a fixed movement pattern
5:37 What? That's not even true from what i know. Why else is strength training and hypertrophy training separated and are powerlifting and bodybuilding different? Why is one called strength training and the other called training for hypertrophy if the purpose of hypertrophy is strength according to him?
4:05 i dont usually say stuff like this, but that has got to be the nerdiest,wimpiest, and overall lamest way to hit your rear delts that i have ever seen. Stuff like that is why I hate the idea of science based lifting. When taken to overkill, you take the fun out of training imo.
He never said bodybuilders try to make bodybuilding functional. He said they try to change the definition of functional to suit them or that they allegedly do functional exercises (only when it’s convenient for arguments sake)
@@cescosa the definition literally says that the definition is often subjective. So for a bodybuilder bodybuilding training is functional. For a athlete sport specific training is function and u get the idea. All training is functional as long as it helps u reach ur goal
@@cescosa any training where u dont hurt yourself improves your everyday life. Functional training improves your every day life. Any training where u dont hurt yourself is functional training.
Wrong, optimal training skillwise for an activity would be PERFORMING THAT ACTIVITY because skill transfer is HIGHLY specific. We lift weights to get stronger and bigger muscles, the end. If you try to blend the two together under the guise of "fUnCTionAL TrAiNiNg" you simply end up with a muttled development of both while likely increasing for risk for injury. For instance: Awhile ago they tried to give NFL Qbs heavier footballs to throw in practice thinking it'll improve their ball speed with a regular ball in game. The result was they lost speed. Because A) Throwing a heavier ball created a different motor pattern B) The muscles involved werent significantly stimulated WHILE increasing their risk for injury Instead you train the muscles involved through basic, high resistance, low skill movements that build general strength then AWAY from that, you practice the exact mechanics of throwing ideally under the circumstances in which you'll be asked to perform them. The weights build the strength and skill developments the power which is an offshoot of strength.
this dude changes the goalposts every 2 or 3 months at this point its actually laughable. In his mind, anyone who trains for bodybuilding purposes is just going to become stiff and slow (which might be the reason he’s so small after 6 years of training), when in reality, that is very hard for any natural lifter to do. bodybuilders also don’t purely restrict themselves to machines. They do barbell rows, squats, bench press, deadlifts and so on. Also, martin takes shots at the leg extension and leg curl whilst doing tricep extensions and bicep curls.
He attacks bodybuilders who try to find "Lazy" alternatives for the excercises u mentioned. For ex, a lot of them will do Pulldowns instead of Pull-ups, Lying Down dumbell rows instead of standing rows, leg press instead of squats, etc. Also, he takes shots at leg extention and leg curl but not bicep and tricep ones because there are way better functional alternatives to them like RDL's, Squats, Lunges, etc. Whereas for biceps and triceps there's not really a more functional way to train them
@@justjoshingyou0 Chin ups makes it overly difficult to isolate the biceps where as squats are just as effective as leg extentions. I'm pretty sure he's just annoyed at people taking away the core from the movement
@@Hadex01 squats also target the lower back, glutes, hamstrings a little, calves to stabilise, upper traps to keep the bar close, adductors whereas leg extensions only target the quads, and actually target the rec fem head a bit more than squats do.
@@justjoshingyou0 thats true but the quads are easily the muscles thats are put under the most tension and it makes it easy to go to failure. Chin ups whilst they have more bicep activation than standard pullups, won't work the muscle out nearly as well. Which is why isolating the biceps is useful
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Foremost, do what you find most fun! What's I find functional is swole privilege. Other men seek validation from me, and women give me attention. Instead of training for a sport. Just play the sport and look good.
ok also a hack squat is still going to engage ur core just do this if u dont believe me. throw a plate of 2 on the hack squat with a belt on. If u feel ur stomach pushing against the belt bc ur bracing then congratulations ur core is engaged
But dude, I play soccer and I barbell squat and do leg extensions. I agree that raining shouldn’t consist of solely using machines, but using machines with free weight movements gave me the most gains
He's thinks training for "gains" is vain. The best way for you to train muscles used during soccer is playing soccer. He thinks you should only train for the sport and let your physique be a byproduct, and you can see how that turned out for him.
When I use take " supplements " I reached 175 lbs as a hectomorph { hard gainer , high metabolism } that's alot , I had big shoulders & thick legs but when it came time to take a sh17 I couldn't reach my ass ; cause it's not functional for regular stuff that happens every day , bodybuilding competitions happen 4 to 6 times a year .
but why not look good and be athletic as well, its not gonna hurt eitherway, plus he isn't against bodybuilding as a whole, but modern bodybuilding which is spreading a wrong message about fitness
@@railasvuo yup, thats what I get from his shorts and vids, they are just against the culture modern bodybuilding is spreading, old school is where its at, Tom Platz's advice is literal gold
@@jr5034 I get the impression that lifting weights is stupid if you don't do that the way he advises. I don't know why I look at these sometimes when mostly they just annoy me. I guess I have to press the button to hide this channel
@@railasvuo nah man it ain't like that, he just tells you prioritize compound lifts, and not use dorky equipment for every lift, basically the gist of it, and calling bodybuilders dorky is just rage bait the mass audience nothing else
Bro said this was functional and yet then explained why or even showed how this should be functional like I just . This guy was not using his full brain 7:28
They dont care about being functional, a bodybuilders purpose is to build a lot of muscles for aesthetics. You dont have to like it but dont act like anyone’s arguing with u abt what ur talking abt
Hey Martin, great vid! I've been trying to get into a stretching routine recently, but the information online is hard for me to decipher. Could you make a video talking about the importance of stretching, and offer a stretching routine with the most common stretches that everyone should do?
5:00 does that guy not know what function muscles have? They aren't there to look cool. They're there to DO WORK, and if you're only concern is training then go grow vs if you train them to do work, then one has an entirely different function, it's like he's never heard the definition of the word lol
Cause they don`t give enough credit for isolation lifts. Someone who can barbell curl/skullcrusher 100lbs and above for reps won`t have small arms. Or lateral raise with 40`s and above or any type of chest fly. You gotta be strong on isolation lifts as well.
what the hell even are these two little dweebs credentials? I can't believe I went to school for this when I could of literally just made stupid ass videos critiquing people saying nonsensical bull shit.
Imagine being as strong as them and still not looking like you lift. I would hate too. If you just look at just him, without audio you'd assume it's a tech channel 😂
I`m weaker than rios brothers in pretty much every lift (Except for arms lifts). But i look bigger than them even though i`m going to the gym for 2 years. It`s either their bad genetic or bad training principle. I think it`s the latter.
Being "functional" isn't the end all be all. For the most part, "functional training" isn't going to have much carry over to real life. Training to "look maximally aesthetic" is valid. It's great that body building staples like the deadlift are very functional. For some people reaching their peak natural physique is a goal and you will NEVER get there with "functional" training alone.
Bodybuilding is not end all be all. But Bodybuilding nerds still gonna criticize people dont do it and think they can beat pro fighters because they have bigger arms .
@@Han-nk3io Realistically, if a 6 ft 230 body builder fights a 6 ft 180 boxer/wrestler no amount of skill is likely going to overcome the sheer amount of mass differential. That's why weight divisions exist. The less the differential the less the weight matters and more skill matters, but massive differences will lead to someone getting mogged. What's really annoying is short skinny 5 ft 7 inch mma fighters weighing like 145 saying they can kill someone that's 6 ft 3 inches and 240 lbs. It's not happening.
@@Han-nk3io facts make people uncomfortable sometimes. but they're still facts. skill only takes you so far when there is a difference in size and mass. Arnold at peak would've eaten Floyd Mayweather alive. Bradly Martyn would beat him up too. I don't see how that would be debatable.
@@Han-nk3io also, IRL, if you fight on the street the person is likely to be armed with a gun or knife. Training skill to fight is only good for fighting as a sport. So it's pretty irrelevant. For self defense what you need is raw basic skills and a weapon.
I definitely don’t agree with this “functional training” idea. Your goal in exercise should be to deeply inroad and fatigue your targeted muscle group. Who cares if it mimics “real life” situations? More stability = more force output. That’s why a well built machine will almost always beat free weights. Without a doubt.
Yes but what happens when you are in a situation where you are generating force from an unstable position? Because your body is too used to machines and fixed rom and isolation the muscles won’t be able to stabilise themselves and they won’t be able to work together which will ultimately lead to less force output in a REAL WORLD SETTING.
@@cescosa Everything is specific. “Real life” and exercise are totally different things. The role of exercise is to deeply fatigue and inroad your muscles. Real life is its own proper setting. Having added muscle will give you a good base to build from, but neurological adaptations (practice) will play a much bigger part in determining how good you are in any particular challenge.
@@bigdre4life92 yes but you can exercise to improve your daily life experience and the goal shouldn’t be to fatigue and deeply inroad your targeted muscle group it should be to get stronger and improve performance
@@bigdre4life92 not everything is specific. You’re doing the thing where you say well doing any exercise is better than none. Yes if you get a couch potato to do leg extensions they’ll probably get better at sprinting however that’s not optimal the optimal thing to do would be functional exercises such as squats and lunges to improve sprint spee
@@bigdre4life92 using a machine will help you far less with everything in real life when compared to using free weights because your muscles don’t work together on machines and they don’t develop any of your stabilisers meaning in real life you will be far weaker than someone who trains free weights
@@cescosa people who do sports aren't doing " functional training" they're doing sport specific training. And most people who do "functional training" arent doing enough strenuous activity on a day-to-day basis to have whether or not they do seated or standing overhead press matter. And if they are, they're probably going to prefer machines because their stabilizers are going to be ruined from overuse during the day. " Functional training" Is a new age term for basic barbell training, it's not new and it's not revolutionary
It is a gimmick because everything is specific. “Real life” is a pointless term because when in life are we, for example, having 300 pounds on our back or being on our back holding hundreds pounds in our hands? You wanna be good in your sport? Practice your sport.
@@TheCatabolicTrex no one said it’s new or revolutionary and athletes will do a mix of specific training and functional training. For example an nba player will do squats (functional exercise) and something like a plyometric workout like medicine ball throws and them (specific training). Also the fact that it isn’t new suggests it isn’t a gimmick
"functional strength is not a thing" Yeah thats why bodybuilders can lift so little weight compared to their weight when you put them up against any type of athlete/powerlifter
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Do you even work out?
@@Calisthincenjoyer idk
Coping keeping you weak as you are
All my homies love the Rios twins🙏
Glad you included Alex Leniodas's seated overhead press in your video at 3:20 after I recently commented on one of your previous shorts.
You are really helping a lot of people especially beginners. Keep it up Nowadays fitness isnt even about health and being fit.
Shut up idiot
1 on 1 coaching keeping you big as hell
Not wiping you’re lips keeping you big as hell
who's the guy at 3:13. I haven't came across him in a while and forgot his name
AlphaDestiny / Alex Leonidas
@@divinity1495preciate it
You never actually gave an explannation of what function in function training means and you only alluded to the idea of sports specificity. Bodybuilding isn't sport specific but the point of bodybuilding/strength training is a general type of training that applies to many different sports. Athletes in MMA for instance do bodybuilding style training like John Jones or Alistair Oveream so that they can be bigger and stronger for a higher weight class. It isn't sports specific but that is a general type of training that they need to do so that they can be better at their sport. If you want to debate/discuss this topic I'd be more than happy to have you on my channel. Message me if you're interested.
I went over what the word “functional” was used in reference to by the NSCA who stated that it is used for exercises that are more specific to performance of a task or that possess greater transferability to sport skills. Your comment on Jon jones and Oveream shows your ignorance to sports performance. Athletes will incorporate Hypertrophy cycles to increase muscle mass so that they have a great potential for power and strength, but the actual strength and power adaptations come from … training for power and strength with plyometrics and heavy free weights 😂 there’s a reason why athletes will rarely if ever use machines, stability is so important for force generation and they don’t get that from machines.
@@MartinRiosFit I don't really want to debate this in the comments section, I think this would be a really valuable discussion to have online. So are you interested in a live debate or not? Just to respond to a few of your points you admitted that bodybuilding style training is useful for these athletes, so you're admitting that this type of training is in fact "functional" or in other words sport specific enough to be useful for many sports. Power is also a function of strenght. If you increase the strength of a muscle you also concurrently increase power output. Someone who can squat 500 pounds is going to be able to produce more power than someone who can only squat 250 pounds.
@@VeganGainsThe Rios Brothers don't do debates. Their opinions only exist in a vacuum where they can control the narrative
@@VeganGainsbro stop yapping
@@VeganGains the thing is, linear mouvement patterns mess with the natural neuromuscular porgramming which explains why for example a lot of people feel their quads and calves while running instead of their core and glutes, and that may even cause worse coordination as a fair amount of bodybuilding routines often focus on being as "optimal" as possible (in other words some unreal isolation) for Maximum hypertrophy while leaving coordination behind, it is Like you make your body parts forget how to work together (not an entirely accurate way of explaining, but is fair enough for now), not only that but that causes fascial Adhesions and fascial tightness which is a very common cause of injuries while realistic mouvements will not cause fascial Adhesions. But TO point, you won't escape any of the aforementioned consequences with free weights but you will rather significantly mitigates the effects which makes them way better for injury prevention, and for neuromuscular porgramming it would be better if one focuses more on mouvements that are close to realistic mouvements to mitigate the mess. A couch potato has less chances of getting injured than an active person , that's why the right training is important. He doesn't clarify any of this tho, but I am just telling u why free weights could be a way better alternative to machines
Yo, u should a video about how u would periodize a program for vertical jump
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Is edging functional?
Those who know!! Knows
Very functional
But hurt bodybuilders keeping you big as hell
That means you ?
08:41. No body's gonna talk about how clean the goal was.
I think it's somewhat "okay" to use just a few machines in your entire workout. People don't get how beneficial free weights are and even if your aiming for "hypertrophy", you can get the same results with functional movements and even get more advantages than a machine.
As a bodybuilder I dont need my training to be functional in real life. I just like getting more muscle mass and it makes me happy👍
But how do you fight in real life without core stability?
Edit: this was a joke btw
@@lauchhardmaybe he isn’t a fighter?
@@lauchhardhe wont?
@lauchhard stop being corny bro the guy humbled himself and gave an honest reason unlike most people that cope for bodybuilding
@@divinity1495 im not body builder im doing calisthenics but i dont know why people hate to bodybuilders this much.
Martin dared to put Alex Leonidas in his video. Blud lost 1000000 aura
love how he’s taking shots at a dude who quite literally overhead presses his bodyweight for reps
@@justjoshingyou0 honestly Alex is probably the worst example of an unathletic person he could've used
Alex literally mogs him in every single realm of fitness you can think of, really shot himself in the foot there lol.
Alex might be the biggest advocate of functional training among all of the bodybuilding influencers. He did 2 plate OHP at 180ish lbs bodyweight.
@@agrlklarkemirenpanda660 and a 4 plate bench*
Rate this Push (Chest & Triceps) workout
- Incline Bench Press (4x6)
- Machine Chest Press (4x8)
- Weighted Dips (4x6)
- Tricep Rope Pushdowns (4x8)
You could benefit from lowering the volume.
Jesus bro, lower the volume
Also replace rope push down for single arm kickback since I assume you're targeting the long head with that excerise
Dont do a fucking machine exercise
Incline Bench Press (2x6)
- Machine Chest Press (1x8)
- Weighted Dips (1x6)
- Tricep Rope Pushdowns (3x8)
I really don't know why people are saying you need to lower the volume. There is no evidence proving low volume training is better than high volume, in fact it's the opposite most of the time. But I personally would change the sets to 3 and add an overhead press, and I think having more variety in rep ranges is better, so for example you could do higher reps on the tricep pushdown. I would personally remove the machine press and change it to a cable fly, since the incline bench most of the time has the same type of movement pattern as a machine press, and I don't like the machine press since it's a fixed movement pattern
5:37 What? That's not even true from what i know. Why else is strength training and hypertrophy training separated and are powerlifting and bodybuilding different? Why is one called strength training and the other called training for hypertrophy if the purpose of hypertrophy is strength according to him?
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4:05 i dont usually say stuff like this, but that has got to be the nerdiest,wimpiest,
and overall lamest way to hit your rear delts that i have ever seen.
Stuff like that is why I hate the idea of science based lifting. When taken to overkill, you take the fun out of training imo.
I have a better version on the pec deck machine in my chat playlist.
@@ProphetFear low-key was onto something in that video, just subbed.
@@divinity1495 And you can load up real weights unlike most of the wack rear delt raises people do.
All that to only build 1.2lbs more muscle instead of just exercising traditionally
It's funny how Marvin here claims that bodybuilders try to make bodybuilding functional. When he and Marco are the only ones going around saying it 😂
He never said bodybuilders try to make bodybuilding functional. He said they try to change the definition of functional to suit them or that they allegedly do functional exercises (only when it’s convenient for arguments sake)
@@cescosa the definition literally says that the definition is often subjective. So for a bodybuilder bodybuilding training is functional. For a athlete sport specific training is function and u get the idea. All training is functional as long as it helps u reach ur goal
@@LilWillieBeatzwrong
@@LilWillieBeatz the FUNCTION is to improve everyday life and sports performance not to build muscle
@@cescosa any training where u dont hurt yourself improves your everyday life. Functional training improves your every day life. Any training where u dont hurt yourself is functional training.
Wrong, optimal training skillwise for an activity would be PERFORMING THAT ACTIVITY because skill transfer is HIGHLY specific.
We lift weights to get stronger and bigger muscles, the end.
If you try to blend the two together under the guise of "fUnCTionAL TrAiNiNg" you simply end up with a muttled development of both while likely increasing for risk for injury.
For instance:
Awhile ago they tried to give NFL Qbs heavier footballs to throw in practice thinking it'll improve their ball speed with a regular ball in game. The result was they lost speed.
Because
A) Throwing a heavier ball created a different motor pattern
B) The muscles involved werent significantly stimulated
WHILE increasing their risk for injury
Instead you train the muscles involved through basic, high resistance, low skill movements that build general strength then AWAY from that, you practice the exact mechanics of throwing ideally under the circumstances in which you'll be asked to perform them. The weights build the strength and skill developments the power which is an offshoot of strength.
this dude changes the goalposts every 2 or 3 months at this point its actually laughable. In his mind, anyone who trains for bodybuilding purposes is just going to become stiff and slow (which might be the reason he’s so small after 6 years of training), when in reality, that is very hard for any natural lifter to do.
bodybuilders also don’t purely restrict themselves to machines. They do barbell rows, squats, bench press, deadlifts and so on. Also, martin takes shots at the leg extension and leg curl whilst doing tricep extensions and bicep curls.
He attacks bodybuilders who try to find "Lazy" alternatives for the excercises u mentioned. For ex, a lot of them will do Pulldowns instead of Pull-ups, Lying Down dumbell rows instead of standing rows, leg press instead of squats, etc. Also, he takes shots at leg extention and leg curl but not bicep and tricep ones because there are way better functional alternatives to them like RDL's, Squats, Lunges, etc. Whereas for biceps and triceps there's not really a more functional way to train them
@@Hadex01 theres more functional alternatives to bicep curls and tricep extensions too. they’re called presses and pulls.
@@justjoshingyou0 Chin ups makes it overly difficult to isolate the biceps where as squats are just as effective as leg extentions. I'm pretty sure he's just annoyed at people taking away the core from the movement
@@Hadex01 squats also target the lower back, glutes, hamstrings a little, calves to stabilise, upper traps to keep the bar close, adductors whereas leg extensions only target the quads, and actually target the rec fem head a bit more than squats do.
@@justjoshingyou0 thats true but the quads are easily the muscles thats are put under the most tension and it makes it easy to go to failure. Chin ups whilst they have more bicep activation than standard pullups, won't work the muscle out nearly as well. Which is why isolating the biceps is useful
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how i look at it (compound movements = more functional) (isolated movements = less functional)
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It is even funnier the 500th time
Leg extensions aren’t meant to be functional, they’re for growing your quads mostly
Whts the use if your muscles r not functional
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Foremost, do what you find most fun! What's I find functional is swole privilege. Other men seek validation from me, and women give me attention. Instead of training for a sport. Just play the sport and look good.
Martin can u pls do a video on how to build strong powerful legs for althetic performance and jumping
React to Jeff nippard and Jesse James west exercise ranking video
ok also a hack squat is still going to engage ur core just do this if u dont believe me. throw a plate of 2 on the hack squat with a belt on. If u feel ur stomach pushing against the belt bc ur bracing then congratulations ur core is engaged
No ?
Just squad normally no…
@@Rzye027 I do but a hack squat is still a baller quad exercise
@@LilWillieBeatz Belt squat is much better imo. If my gym had that machine, i would never do back squats again.
@@agrlklarkemirenpanda660 yeah belt squat is amazing
Day 1 of asking for an Elden Ring playthrough as Leon Edwards
You or your brother should make a video about CrossFit
Hey Mario!What is your opinion on calisthenics?And is it functional (because it uses the core in literally every exercise)?
He said that calisthenics should be combined with weightlifting
But dude, I play soccer and I barbell squat and do leg extensions. I agree that raining shouldn’t consist of solely using machines, but using machines with free weight movements gave me the most gains
He's thinks training for "gains" is vain. The best way for you to train muscles used during soccer is playing soccer. He thinks you should only train for the sport and let your physique be a byproduct, and you can see how that turned out for him.
When I use take " supplements " I reached 175 lbs as a hectomorph { hard gainer , high metabolism } that's alot , I had big shoulders & thick legs but when it came time to take a sh17 I couldn't reach my ass ; cause it's not functional for regular stuff that happens every day , bodybuilding competitions happen 4 to 6 times a year .
Idk man working out like a bodybuilder has improved my life so much, so I don't know what you're yapping about
but why not look good and be athletic as well, its not gonna hurt eitherway, plus he isn't against bodybuilding as a whole, but modern bodybuilding which is spreading a wrong message about fitness
@@jr5034 I have no interest in anything other than lifting weights. And I do agree that today's bodybuilding doesn't look good. I liked the golden age
@@railasvuo yup, thats what I get from his shorts and vids, they are just against the culture modern bodybuilding is spreading, old school is where its at, Tom Platz's advice is literal gold
@@jr5034 I get the impression that lifting weights is stupid if you don't do that the way he advises. I don't know why I look at these sometimes when mostly they just annoy me. I guess I have to press the button to hide this channel
@@railasvuo nah man it ain't like that, he just tells you prioritize compound lifts, and not use dorky equipment for every lift, basically the gist of it, and calling bodybuilders dorky is just rage bait the mass audience nothing else
What about the standing bench press?
Weighted push ups
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Bro said this was functional and yet then explained why or even showed how this should be functional like I just . This guy was not using his full brain 7:28
Lol that guy is such a dumbass
"Functional training" is a weird buz term that has no meaning
Do first nd then xomment
They dont care about being functional, a bodybuilders purpose is to build a lot of muscles for aesthetics. You dont have to like it but dont act like anyone’s arguing with u abt what ur talking abt
Hey Martin, great vid! I've been trying to get into a stretching routine recently, but the information online is hard for me to decipher. Could you make a video talking about the importance of stretching, and offer a stretching routine with the most common stretches that everyone should do?
Hey you messed up the chapters on your vid. The bodybuilding is not functional and stupid counter arguments are in the same chapter.
Michael Jordan did bodybuilding training as did Bruce Lee. They seemed pretty athletic to me...
But most bodybuilders, especially of olden days, use free weights over machines. Machines used in instances to isolate if desired.
CrossFit is even better than optimal bodybuilder
Bodybuilding is functional keeping you big as hell 😂😅
You should do a video where you rate and try ,,diet meals,, of your subscriber
5:00 does that guy not know what function muscles have? They aren't there to look cool. They're there to DO WORK, and if you're only concern is training then go grow vs if you train them to do work, then one has an entirely different function, it's like he's never heard the definition of the word lol
eSports is a sport like chess is a sport.
Dude,this guy actually telling truth 🗿
I really like how your not afraid to critique people like Sean, Jeff, and Greg since pretty much everyone else would probably never do the same.
I thought this was Mario tf?
we all have dif goals stop targeting people that are doing what they love
A 9 will change all your functions
I genuinely believe that Mario and Martin are jealous of bodybuilders cause they can’t get any bigger
Cause they don`t give enough credit for isolation lifts. Someone who can barbell curl/skullcrusher 100lbs and above for reps won`t have small arms. Or lateral raise with 40`s and above or any type of chest fly. You gotta be strong on isolation lifts as well.
@@agrlklarkemirenpanda660 correct. I focus both on isolation and compounds excercises to get bigger and stronger and it works
Their focus is athletics, so it doesn't make sense for them to be jealous about muscles
what the hell even are these two little dweebs credentials? I can't believe I went to school for this when I could of literally just made stupid ass videos critiquing people saying nonsensical bull shit.
ur squat form makes me want to cry
You and the other guy finally found his long form videos 💀
@@pickletickle8407 yah and they also suck 🙏
@@pickletickle8407 This guy has 100+ comments on martins channel, definitely helping him out with engagement 😂
the Rios Brothers don't get engagement at all, they don't get nearly diffused they used to t@@micker7666
This guy does have his point.
This guy is as obsessed with bodybuilders as his brother.😂😂😂😂
Imagine being as strong as them and still not looking like you lift. I would hate too. If you just look at just him, without audio you'd assume it's a tech channel 😂
@@RSuave545 I genuinely feel sorry for them🤣
I`m weaker than rios brothers in pretty much every lift (Except for arms lifts). But i look bigger than them even though i`m going to the gym for 2 years. It`s either their bad genetic or bad training principle. I think it`s the latter.
@@agrlklarkemirenpanda660 I don’t know how much they lift. I am bigger too
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I have sinned 😔😭. I did machines today at the gym 😭😭
I mean it’s fine to do it every once in a while just not every single time you go to the gym
Ngl this dude is making me look for every standing exercise possible just to avoud sitting or using machines
@@thazmania120same
You are right, machines increases injury risk!😨🗣
Being "functional" isn't the end all be all. For the most part, "functional training" isn't going to have much carry over to real life. Training to "look maximally aesthetic" is valid. It's great that body building staples like the deadlift are very functional. For some people reaching their peak natural physique is a goal and you will NEVER get there with "functional" training alone.
Bodybuilding is not end all be all. But Bodybuilding nerds still gonna criticize people dont do it and think they can beat pro fighters because they have bigger arms .
@@Han-nk3io Realistically, if a 6 ft 230 body builder fights a 6 ft 180 boxer/wrestler no amount of skill is likely going to overcome the sheer amount of mass differential. That's why weight divisions exist. The less the differential the less the weight matters and more skill matters, but massive differences will lead to someone getting mogged. What's really annoying is short skinny 5 ft 7 inch mma fighters weighing like 145 saying they can kill someone that's 6 ft 3 inches and 240 lbs. It's not happening.
@@G.Bfit.93 Ofcourse bw matter but saying a bodybuilders with no experience gonna beat a real fighter is an insult.
@@Han-nk3io facts make people uncomfortable sometimes. but they're still facts. skill only takes you so far when there is a difference in size and mass. Arnold at peak would've eaten Floyd Mayweather alive. Bradly Martyn would beat him up too. I don't see how that would be debatable.
@@Han-nk3io also, IRL, if you fight on the street the person is likely to be armed with a gun or knife. Training skill to fight is only good for fighting as a sport. So it's pretty irrelevant. For self defense what you need is raw basic skills and a weapon.
I definitely don’t agree with this “functional training” idea. Your goal in exercise should be to deeply inroad and fatigue your targeted muscle group. Who cares if it mimics “real life” situations? More stability = more force output. That’s why a well built machine will almost always beat free weights. Without a doubt.
Yes but what happens when you are in a situation where you are generating force from an unstable position? Because your body is too used to machines and fixed rom and isolation the muscles won’t be able to stabilise themselves and they won’t be able to work together which will ultimately lead to less force output in a REAL WORLD SETTING.
@@cescosa Everything is specific. “Real life” and exercise are totally different things. The role of exercise is to deeply fatigue and inroad your muscles. Real life is its own proper setting. Having added muscle will give you a good base to build from, but neurological adaptations (practice) will play a much bigger part in determining how good you are in any particular challenge.
@@bigdre4life92 yes but you can exercise to improve your daily life experience and the goal shouldn’t be to fatigue and deeply inroad your targeted muscle group it should be to get stronger and improve performance
@@bigdre4life92 not everything is specific. You’re doing the thing where you say well doing any exercise is better than none. Yes if you get a couch potato to do leg extensions they’ll probably get better at sprinting however that’s not optimal the optimal thing to do would be functional exercises such as squats and lunges to improve sprint spee
@@bigdre4life92 using a machine will help you far less with everything in real life when compared to using free weights because your muscles don’t work together on machines and they don’t develop any of your stabilisers meaning in real life you will be far weaker than someone who trains free weights
"Functional" training is a gimmick
It’s a gimmick to train in a way to maximise performance benefits in real life and in sports?
@@cescosa people who do sports aren't doing " functional training" they're doing sport specific training. And most people who do "functional training" arent doing enough strenuous activity on a day-to-day basis to have whether or not they do seated or standing overhead press matter. And if they are, they're probably going to prefer machines because their stabilizers are going to be ruined from overuse during the day.
" Functional training" Is a new age term for basic barbell training, it's not new and it's not revolutionary
It is a gimmick because everything is specific. “Real life” is a pointless term because when in life are we, for example, having 300 pounds on our back or being on our back holding hundreds pounds in our hands? You wanna be good in your sport? Practice your sport.
@@TheCatabolicTrex no one said it’s new or revolutionary and athletes will do a mix of specific training and functional training. For example an nba player will do squats (functional exercise) and something like a plyometric workout like medicine ball throws and them (specific training).
Also the fact that it isn’t new suggests it isn’t a gimmick
@@bigdre4life92 so you never run or jump or climb or pick up heavy objects or push things?
"functional strength is not a thing"
Yeah thats why bodybuilders can lift so little weight compared to their weight when you put them up against any type of athlete/powerlifter
I guarantee you've never worked out before
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I uploaded this video and some dude commented "LoL, What is this for". Why do people assume that everyone who goes to the gym aspires to be a bodybuilder? I'm there to be more agile, athletic and have fun. By the way, the movement I'm doing in this can't be done by 99% of bodybuilders
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Pleasr say it back bro
GET THE HELL OUTTA HERE