TikTok Can’t Get Over This Massive, Swanky High School

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  • Опубліковано 14 лют 2023
  • A high school in Indiana is going viral for footage of its swanky amenities - prompting a convo about inequality in public school systems. Carmel High School’s video tour, which features some of its students showing off the school’s planetarium, natatorium, auto shop, and many other facilities, has 5.6M+ views on TikTok as of Feb 15.
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    Some viewers were excited or impressed by the video, with one commenter joking, ‘I’m 25 and I wanna go here.’ Others, however, were more critical, noting that the high school is able to afford such benefits because it exists in a community with a median household income over $100,000.
    ‘Carmel High School really demonstrates the problem with how we fund U.S. public schools,’ one viewer wrote on Twitter. ‘Carmel, a hyper wealthy community, was able to put up a college-sized school while many other schools in Indiana struggle to even get updated textbooks and updated classrooms.’
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 882

  • @nqi87
    @nqi87 Рік тому +342

    This is better than some colleges

    • @Loquacious_Jackson
      @Loquacious_Jackson Рік тому

      🤡

    • @trekkiechickable
      @trekkiechickable Рік тому +8

      I was wondering if they'd taken over an old college campus, goodness

    • @Wordsworth11
      @Wordsworth11 Рік тому +6

      Topped all 3 universities I spent over 80k on.

    • @Wordsworth11
      @Wordsworth11 Рік тому +4

      I have no doubt when I look at the real estate surrounding this area it's no less than 500k per house.

    • @jennymulinaro6036
      @jennymulinaro6036 Рік тому

      @@Wordsworth11my in laws live in the area. I live very close by. It’s incredibly wealthy.

  • @constantingonzalez7982
    @constantingonzalez7982 Рік тому +267

    In my high school you needed to fight a raccoon to get to first class on time.

  • @jimmywilliams2108
    @jimmywilliams2108 4 місяці тому +16

    Graduated from CHS in 2016. School had more students and was nicer than my college, not to mention was more difficult. I took the auto shop class for two years, and after getting a 4 year business degree I decided to become a mechanic anyway. Great school with great opportunities for success. Everyone should be so fortunate.

  • @dr.veronica6155
    @dr.veronica6155 Рік тому +449

    Fund schools properly instead of poorly like they do all over the country, maybe we could have more schools like this, which would lead to more students who want to go to school, and maybe countering the trend of anti-education and anti-intellectual people that our country is bursting with right now.

    • @sebcw1204
      @sebcw1204 Рік тому +43

      we would need to change the way schools are funded. right now, they are supported mostly by local property taxes, which means that wealthy places get wealthy schools, which perpetuates the wealth cycle.
      we would need to shift funding more onto the federal budget. this would also create justification for a more uniform standard across the country.

    • @dr.veronica6155
      @dr.veronica6155 Рік тому +7

      @@sebcw1204 I think these all sound like good ideas.

    • @Thunder-Chief
      @Thunder-Chief Рік тому +19

      @@sebcw1204 Exactly! There should be universal, equitable funding for all public K-12 schools, with budget tweaks based on local costs for building, equipment, and supplies.
      What most of the naysayers here don't seem to comprehend is that not only do wealthy areas have more property taxes for schools, they also do much better when fundraising for additional income. Even if we iron out the former, they will still have the latter, so they won't suffer, ffs.

    • @stoves5877
      @stoves5877 Рік тому +20

      this should be the standard for all highschools in America. It could easily be done with just a fraction of the Defense budget.

    • @jamesestelle7260
      @jamesestelle7260 Рік тому +28

      This school has 5.5k kids. They spend $9k per kid as opposed to Baltimore schools that have 2k kids and spend $21k per child to educate them. They don't spend more on these kids. they just have 2x the number of other public schools.

  • @napalmholocaust9093
    @napalmholocaust9093 Рік тому +116

    I spent two years at a school that was half condemned. Just past my class were fire doors chained shut. Lead paint held the rest together. Next year they condemned it all and set-up a makeshift school in closed-down factory. Eventually they gave-up and shipped us all to the next county and combined three or four schools in an existing one.
    We didn't even have a library till the last one. In the factory (school) the girls used the staff bathroom because there was just the one for workers and one where the offices were.

    • @manda_musings8459
      @manda_musings8459 Рік тому +6

      Jesus. That broke my heart

    • @Jianju69
      @Jianju69 Рік тому +8

      So what? I went to school in the ghetto and became an engineer. Quitchabitchin and hit the books!

    • @thousandislandsupreme
      @thousandislandsupreme Рік тому +1

      Builds character

    • @katiejon17
      @katiejon17 Рік тому +6

      your community created it's own reality. Just like the community of Carmel High School has created their own reality.

    • @thousandislandsupreme
      @thousandislandsupreme Рік тому

      Blacks don't value each other's lives. They kill each other in the streets everyday, drive-by shootings that stray bullets kill little children and then later they brag about it. No surprise they don't value education either.

  • @mikehunt368
    @mikehunt368 Рік тому +9

    their girls swimming has won 37 straight state championships….

  • @greyson2150
    @greyson2150 Рік тому +72

    As a student at a rival Indiana High School, we all are extremely jealous of Carmel and their massive school. It’s not just their building that benefits from the massive funding, but all of their programs as well.

    • @thundersnare
      @thundersnare Рік тому +1

      I would then ask, how much are the parents involved compared to your school?

    • @Dwight_
      @Dwight_ Рік тому +1

      does youre school come close too this on scale level?
      have you thought of joining that school?

    • @greyson2150
      @greyson2150 Рік тому +1

      Our enrollment is about half of theirs, and no way lol.

    • @SkrrtzSneakers
      @SkrrtzSneakers Рік тому +1

      @@greyson2150 what school? North central?

    • @alexanderredhorse1297
      @alexanderredhorse1297 Рік тому +2

      i mean yea, wealth and privilege can raise people of mediocre talent and limited intelligence to remarkable heights.

  • @LazyCloud9
    @LazyCloud9 Рік тому +35

    Wealthy zip code

    • @Crystalbomb321
      @Crystalbomb321 Рік тому +3

      Not really. Their median house price is only 300ish k. That’s extremely low.

    • @markbenjamin1703
      @markbenjamin1703 Рік тому +7

      9k per student Vs Baltimore's 21k per student

    • @skatemo100
      @skatemo100 Рік тому +7

      @@Crystalbomb321 The average income is 120k. More than half of the country lives off less than 50k.

    • @sarah2172
      @sarah2172 Рік тому +1

      There is no way Carmel Clay does not benefit from substantial spending from PTAs and individuals which aren't counted in their per pupil spending. It's easy to not spend a lot when others buy you stuff.
      Carmel Clay, Indiana median household income: $105,720.
      Baltimore, MD median household income: $54,124.

    • @user-ni1dm2oc5v
      @user-ni1dm2oc5v 4 дні тому

      Tax money being well spent.

  • @shammalu8369
    @shammalu8369 10 місяців тому +23

    It’s crazy, all students should get the opportunity to go to schools like this. Lots of high schools in Fishers and Carmel Indiana look like this and it’s a great privilege.

    • @va1hk
      @va1hk 6 місяців тому +3

      Its because those students care about their education. This indiana school costs much less than your typical NYC public school. The latter is disgusting and trashy, yet has greater expenses... curious what the difference could be....

    • @kingchicken8232
      @kingchicken8232 6 місяців тому +2

      @@va1hk I really doubt that lmao, this is about as expensive as a high school could possibly be. Do you have any numbers for it

    • @va1hk
      @va1hk 6 місяців тому +4

      @@kingchicken8232 NYC schools receive about 30,000 dollars per student, while for Carmel its about 10,000 dollars. With this knowledge one could only assume NYC has similar if not more expansive educational facilities for k-12, yet that is not the case. T

    • @JMG0305
      @JMG0305 3 місяці тому +1

      @@va1hkwhat might the difference be?

    • @va1hk
      @va1hk 3 місяці тому

      @@JMG0305 That's for you to decide, but there are prominent common variables that could help you deduct it.

  • @freesimorgh
    @freesimorgh Рік тому +48

    All schools need to be like this!

    • @jonbranch710
      @jonbranch710 Рік тому +4

      Not feasible

    • @always_markb
      @always_markb Рік тому +3

      So what you are really saying is all districts need to be like Carmel. Super rich and super white.

    • @fight8the8feeling8
      @fight8the8feeling8 Рік тому +6

      @@always_markb Go read a book for once, it’ll do you a favor.

    • @always_markb
      @always_markb Рік тому

      @@fight8the8feeling8 i live there, shut up :)

    • @fight8the8feeling8
      @fight8the8feeling8 Рік тому +1

      @@always_markb You live in a book?

  • @DixieGeezer
    @DixieGeezer Рік тому +13

    Poor kids, no gangs, no murders, low drug rates...Can they survive the inequality compared to Baltimore and Chicago schools?

  • @benjaminharcourt4861
    @benjaminharcourt4861 Рік тому +62

    I went to Carmel. Grew up here. This city has changed soooooo much since I went to CHS. I've never seen some of the stuff they've added since I went there. Crazy overpopulated school. You can't even walk around in that school or find a place to sit and eat lunch sometimes (there's around 5,000 students). My graduating class had roughly 1,100. I never graduated myself though, huge missed opportunity.

    • @henrytawnn8694
      @henrytawnn8694 Рік тому +3

      I was curious. How is the racial diversity there? Because, just from watching this video, it seemed pretty Caucasian.
      I was actually watching to see if they had at least one person who wasn't white promoting the school, and they had only one.

    • @ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588
      @ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588 Рік тому +7

      @@henrytawnn8694 it is obviously not going to be very diverse. You don’t see schools in the ghetto half as well funded as this.

    • @henrytawnn8694
      @henrytawnn8694 Рік тому +3

      @@ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588 It was pretty much what I was expecting. I went to school in a small town in Missouri and my school was pretty diverse, but we had many budget cuts and removed classes and after school clubs because of it.
      So, seeing a school like this is just such a shock to me.

    • @Gilang-Ramadhan
      @Gilang-Ramadhan Рік тому +5

      @@henrytawnn8694 Hello. What do you mean by shock after watching this video? I think we should be happy because the students get the best facilities that school can offer. I hope the school across your country has the similar facilities like CHS but I don't think we should not be happy for the students who studying in CHS.
      About the diversity, what if in that neighborhood the majority is caucasian? I think there's also a high school in the US that the students are Black majority and as foreigners I don't see any problem with that.

    • @henrytawnn8694
      @henrytawnn8694 Рік тому +2

      @@Gilang-Ramadhan There are tens of thousands of schools that don't have anywhere near the facilities and expenses of CHS. The shock is that there should be more schools like this, all over the country, in every community, not just the predominantly white and wealthy ones.
      Many schools have to make budget cuts, cut classes, or don't have the funding for after school club activities, like mine did.
      I don't have an issue with that school getting an amazing working environment, which should help with learning. The issue is that tens of thousands of schools aren't. Not even close. And you don't even need to take a wild guess at which communities tend to have less educational budgets. We both already know that answer.

  • @thebookwasbetter3650
    @thebookwasbetter3650 Рік тому +6

    I was astonished to read that they spend $9k per student and some inner city district spend more like 15 to even 30k per student. Where do they spend all that money on where the school with the planetarium and cathedral hallways spends less? It's not the money afterall. This school is not well funded. It's well run.

  • @stevenvillarreal8970
    @stevenvillarreal8970 Рік тому +126

    Just going through the neighborhoods near that HS I can tell you that Carmel HS is in a really rich area with nice houses and such which explains why they have such a nice high school. Wish I had a HS with all those things mentioned in the video.

    • @ceoofmemes1967
      @ceoofmemes1967 Рік тому +5

      They look a lot smaller than most houses in affluent suburbs, actually. The school is most likely a product of COVID money paired with cheap costs.
      The neighborhood is wealthier than the average neighborhood, at a median income of $109k but the houses seem normal sized. The school just looks nicer.

    • @katiejon17
      @katiejon17 Рік тому +22

      This school only funds $9k a year per student. This is a cultural issue. The community CHOSE (by how they vote) to appropriately allocate funds, then they raise kids who have self respect and respect for property. So they take care of their school. If this same exact school was built in any inner-city by donated funds, the community would ruin it within a few years. Want a better life? Create better families and then move to where others do the same. We did - there was no way I was going to raise my family in Detroit. I moved and raise my children around people with the same VALUES. We live in a "white" community.

    • @vypa-bk1iy
      @vypa-bk1iy Рік тому +10

      This school actually receives 6k less in funding per student than nearby black schools and still has better amenities due to better management.

    • @stevechance150
      @stevechance150 Рік тому +4

      @@katiejon17 Katie, wow! Racist much?!
      I pray that God softens your heart, so that you can give up your racists ways. And if God won't soften your heart, I pray that God stops it, so you can go to heaven and no longer spread your racists thoughts.

    • @jennymulinaro6036
      @jennymulinaro6036 Рік тому

      nope. Carmel is larger than you’d expect and is extremely wealthy. The west side of the city is covered in huge gated estates. A “small” affordable house in Carmel is about 3000 sq ft and $500-600k. The average price for a home in Carmel is like $450k.

  • @thundersnare
    @thundersnare Рік тому +73

    Besides the school only spending 10k per kid, there’s 5,000 students that go to that school. Instead of hating on the school maybe find out how they allocate their funds and find out how the city of Carmel was able to build such a school. Then take that information back to your city and see what can be done to make your schools better. Geez the envy!!

    • @lafeil
      @lafeil Рік тому +4

      You are right

    • @rickyortago8335
      @rickyortago8335 Рік тому +4

      I agree, you are right

    • @katiejon17
      @katiejon17 Рік тому +8

      Spot on. This same school could have been built in any US inner-city by grant, and the community would have destroyed it. This is a culture and a mindset. And people are salty because they want to keep behaving a certain way, but they want the benefits that come with different choices. In such situations, we reap what we sow. They aren't sowing to reap such a school.

    • @bleepbloop7039
      @bleepbloop7039 Рік тому +4

      carmel seems like a forward thinking place, from what i can tell they implemented roundabouts to improve traffic flow, you don't see that much anywhere else in american cities or towns

    • @skidmoda
      @skidmoda Рік тому +2

      Absolutely, nailed it

  • @CassVanCat
    @CassVanCat Рік тому +7

    Average annual income in this area is 120k and its 80% white.

    • @markbenjamin1703
      @markbenjamin1703 Рік тому +4

      9k per student Vs Baltimore's 21k per student

    • @sarah2172
      @sarah2172 Рік тому +1

      @@markbenjamin1703 the $10k figure is on average across the entire district and this school is the crown jewel getting the majority of the funding.
      Another explanation is if a lot of those facilities were donated by wealthy alumni and don't count in their $10k figure. There is no way Carmel Clay does not benefit from substantial spending from PTAs and individuals which aren't counted in their per pupil spending. It's easy to not spend a lot when others buy you stuff.
      Carmel Clay, Indiana median household income: $105,720.
      Baltimore, MD median household income: $54,124.

    • @tjmartin8516
      @tjmartin8516 Рік тому

      @@CassVanCat The state of Indiana is 85% White so Whites are actually underrepresented

  • @Krugzug
    @Krugzug Рік тому +32

    If public schools were paid throgh state income taxes or sales tax there would not be so much inequality of High Schools when most of their funding comes from Property taxes.

    • @sebcw1204
      @sebcw1204 Рік тому

      federal would be better. that way no state could tank their kids future in a gambit to make them more susceptible to campaign lies.

    • @MK-tq5ec
      @MK-tq5ec Рік тому +4

      No, it would make it worst. Burden will go on poor family’s not able to spend extra for take out or goods

    • @staceycartnal9447
      @staceycartnal9447 Рік тому +2

      Or an even property tax across the board pulled into a state fund and divided on a per capita basis. I'm priced out of the neighborhoods with good schools. All a rated schools in ohio are not open enrollment either.

    • @tonys7524
      @tonys7524 Рік тому +9

      This school district in Indiana spends $10.3K per student. Less than half what is spent on Baltimore public schools

    • @anastasia-fr1gn
      @anastasia-fr1gn Рік тому

      In many cases the districts mismanage their funds. Especially in school districts that have crazy bureaucracy not to mention that property tax is more consistent than sales or income tax. Property tax is easier across the board.

  • @robertwilliams570
    @robertwilliams570 Рік тому +119

    This is how every school should be

    • @chasef89
      @chasef89 Рік тому +7

      With 5x as much spent on athletic facilities as academic?

    • @nextleveljourney6612
      @nextleveljourney6612 Рік тому

      @@chasef89Answer: NO
      But also: if you are “fiscally conservative” - and against “socialism” - then: you want schools to become Private schools only?
      And watch as our nation continues to circle the drain ⭕️ 💦
      - Trickle Down Economics doesn’t work and never did and never will. Why? Because Greed disguises itself in slogans of
      “I don’t want my tax money helping Anyone else.
      Seems unfair.”
      N I T W I T S

    • @jessicab743
      @jessicab743 Рік тому +9

      nah this is excessive for a high school.

    • @dajb90
      @dajb90 Рік тому +3

      Nobody needs this. HS is for basic education.

    • @robertwilliams570
      @robertwilliams570 Рік тому

      @@chasef89 yea you right about that

  • @GorgieClarissa
    @GorgieClarissa Рік тому +6

    for those that don't know... caramel, indiana is like the wealthiest city in the WHOLE state.

    • @always_markb
      @always_markb Рік тому

      Correction, one of the ten wealthiest suburbs in the NATION.

    • @spyder027
      @spyder027 2 місяці тому

      The Geist area in fishers beats Carmel. But all this makes Hamilton county one of the wealthiest counties in the country

  • @diagnosissore5225
    @diagnosissore5225 Рік тому +3

    This is what little corruption will get you

  • @sebcw1204
    @sebcw1204 Рік тому +160

    proof we need to stop funding schools based on property tax and distribute this wealth to other kids who are equally deserving.

    • @MK-tq5ec
      @MK-tq5ec Рік тому

      Proof that the government needs to stop cutting budgets to educations so they just rely on property or sales tax

    • @staceycartnal9447
      @staceycartnal9447 Рік тому +5

      Agreed!

    • @sebcw1204
      @sebcw1204 Рік тому

      @@EpsteinDidntKillHimself187 that's not how school funding works. your children are not invested in by individual participation, they are funded by taxes gathered from property value. this school exists in a high wealth bubble. the constitution places the burden of education on the government, not the parents.

    • @chronicillz1879
      @chronicillz1879 Рік тому +4

      @@EpsteinDidntKillHimself187 rofl yup

    • @EpsteinDidntKillHimself187
      @EpsteinDidntKillHimself187 Рік тому +29

      @@sebcw1204 The school district's tax base is a reflection of the values and work ethic of its residents. Carmel used to be tiny little nothing. In a few decades, the people congregating there have turned it into a small city that most applaud yet others can only leer at with jealous contempt.

  • @angelicaespinal7267
    @angelicaespinal7267 Рік тому +23

    I went to two high schools one in nyc which was Queens vocational high school it had no gym and no cafeteria gym was outside and in the auditorium if it rained we called it the cafetorium 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️ and I went to Reading senior high in Reading pa that looked just like this plus there were pools it was valued at 60million when I went like 20 years ago🤦🏽‍♀️ I wish all schools were like that

    • @andrewd4723
      @andrewd4723 Рік тому +1

      Reading high definitely has some of these amenities but the school is like 100 years old in parts! My mom told me the pool was closed when she went in the 60s, because it was so old it needed to be renovated. I agree RHS is atypical, but only cause it was built when education was well funded

  • @NimrodClover
    @NimrodClover Рік тому +36

    I went to this high school - but before many of these things existed. The school has had 3 major expansions, 1978, 1991, and 1994 plus other expansions for the sports facilities. Nice that these students can show off these amenities and a few of them actually get that this is atypical.

    • @always_markb
      @always_markb Рік тому +1

      There are ppl on here that are actually unhappy about these kids having faciltiies like this. Hater-ade.

    • @lunab.1136
      @lunab.1136 Рік тому

      Yeah I totally miss Carmel

    • @alexanderredhorse1297
      @alexanderredhorse1297 Рік тому +1

      i mean yea, wealth and privilege can raise people of mediocre talent and limited intelligence to remarkable heights.

  • @siriuslylostwerewolf
    @siriuslylostwerewolf Рік тому +6

    Jesus. This high school is nicer than my university.

  • @sarah2172
    @sarah2172 Рік тому +68

    There is no way Carmel Clay does not benefit from substantial spending from PTAs and individuals which aren't counted in their per pupil spending. It's easy to not spend a lot when others buy you stuff.

    • @dannyfa7x
      @dannyfa7x Рік тому +1

      Almost certainly do. That’s off the books though 🤫

    • @brunonaccarato6219
      @brunonaccarato6219 Рік тому +8

      @@dannyfa7x if a school benefits from the generosity of of the community that too bad. I bought my kids class ipads. Other classes, other schools didn't get them. How's that my problem?

    • @dannyfa7x
      @dannyfa7x Рік тому +3

      @@brunonaccarato6219 it’s not a bad thing. But when lots of donations and help are coming in and it’s not reported it makes it seem like Carmel is doing more with less per student.
      I’ve already seen this thread full of people saying well this inner city school spends more per kid than Carmel and look at all the problems. If it were shared info it would give a more realistic spending per student than what’s reported to slow down the dummies.
      It’s obviously a lot deeper than just funding for what makes a school good or bad. I’m glad you could afford that. Not a lot of teachers I know and knew could do such things.

    • @brunonaccarato6219
      @brunonaccarato6219 Рік тому +4

      @@dannyfa7x I'm not a teacher. I'm a parent doing whats best for his daughters. I'm aware my viewpoint isn't fair. However, 2 schools A & B get $6k per student in government funding, thats fair, thats equality. If school B gets $5k per student in donations to bad for A. It can't be equalized. Taking anything from B to offset the difference is theft. I deliberately work towards giving my kids advantages. I'm not unique. I'm troubled when race is introduced. I bought ipads. Were all the students recieving them white? The other class didn't get new ipads. Were all those students black?
      Frankly I don't know and I don't care. Is that racist?
      Government allocation should be equal and likewise colorblind, anything else is racist.

    • @DAPH1918
      @DAPH1918 Рік тому

      ​@@brunonaccarato6219 colorblindness is racist you dolt.

  • @liliachan3753
    @liliachan3753 Рік тому +4

    The unfairness of zip code inequalities.

    • @krisjones4051
      @krisjones4051 Рік тому

      Life ain’t fair bucko. Look at India 😂

    • @MB-jz3uu
      @MB-jz3uu Рік тому

      ​@@krisjones4051it isn't but we can do a better job at making it more fair for kids in our country.

    • @krisjones4051
      @krisjones4051 Рік тому

      @@MB-jz3uu Do you trust the same people in power to facilitate “more fair” education though..? Or even the same dinosaur institutions that have been ruining things since at least the 80s?

  • @Sol-Invictus
    @Sol-Invictus Рік тому +68

    This should only be viral to show the cast system we've tolerated.

    • @drowningpooralice5505
      @drowningpooralice5505 Рік тому +13

      Carmel spends less per student than Indianapolis yet all of those schools are failing. It's the household culture of the families not a cast system. 71% of Carmel students are above average, they earned that school.

    • @elizadoolittle5906
      @elizadoolittle5906 Рік тому +4

      With 5,000 students I’m sure the entire cast system is represented.

    • @AmandaFromWisconsin
      @AmandaFromWisconsin Рік тому

      @Kruimeltje What if your values don't align with that of the Republican Party? Wait...here comes the "Then vote third party" response. Yes, that will work.

  • @davidcache
    @davidcache Рік тому +6

    My daughters started school here in the suburbs. And it's absolutely disgusting how badly funded they were in the city compared to their new school. There are only 40 students in their new school, and the school looks like what's in this vide. It's wild.

    • @Dwight_
      @Dwight_ Рік тому +1

      are all private schools like this level? or is this like at the top of the chain.

    • @davidcache
      @davidcache Рік тому +2

      @@Dwight_ my daughters go to a public school. It's in a very good neighborhood though. We live on 150 acre farm and most our neighbors are affluent. It's no wonder folks in the suburbs are more likely to succeed... Wealthy folks are clueless to how everyone else is doing, the financial divide makes it almost unfair, to be born without money...

    • @spyder027
      @spyder027 2 місяці тому

      @@Dwight_This is a public school in the video. The private schools are probably nicer

  • @TheSmilodon85
    @TheSmilodon85 Рік тому +13

    Went to a school similar by accident when I was put in a Group home from out of the Urban City...It was amazing. I miss the people there and how it was 🙏

    • @willywill74
      @willywill74 Рік тому

      Please explain by accident thanks you. Did you graduate? Or did you keep up with the people. So many questions but lets start there.

  • @kelevera92
    @kelevera92 Рік тому +20

    A highschool in Indianapolis I went to, called Franklin central was JUST like this. Had the TV, and radio stations. They played the radio until 2 minutes before the bell rang between classes, and the TV was how we got our announcements. They also had 2 cafeterias, and a basement with the pool,, along with 2 other stories. They also had a market in the cafeterias. It was AWESOME! Went there part of my freshman year in 2009. Loved it.
    I didn't live in a nice, rich area either, but that was the school I had to go to.

  • @kevindashid
    @kevindashid Рік тому +16

    It boils down to culture, not money.

    • @ryanadams0922
      @ryanadams0922 Рік тому +2

      More like politics

    • @georgebrantley776
      @georgebrantley776 Рік тому

      ​​​@@ryanadams0922 Blue states (CA, MA, NJ) do the best in education, yet plenty of red states are the exemptions that disprove the rule. Indiana being one of them. Meanwhile, red states (LA, AL, MS) have the worst education systems in the country, yet there are the Blue states that disprove the rule. New Mexico is one of them. Almost as if politics has little correlation with educational success.

    • @skidmoda
      @skidmoda Рік тому

      Yep, 100%

  • @Pandajo
    @Pandajo Рік тому +9

    Hahaha this video has horribly back fired according to the comments... everyone is right schools are under funded in most areas of country..

    • @always_markb
      @always_markb Рік тому +1

      it started a conversation. so it was actually 100% successful.

    • @Pandajo
      @Pandajo Рік тому +1

      @@always_markb Not from their perspective...

    • @Skip-Kilat
      @Skip-Kilat Рік тому +1

      I doubt they'll dismantle all their amenities because of the comments.
      Wait. How did it backfire again?

  • @wisdomasculture3173
    @wisdomasculture3173 Рік тому +8

    Not one pride flag in sight

    • @spyder027
      @spyder027 2 місяці тому

      Sadly HSE and Fishers can’t say the same

  • @cc-ij7cr
    @cc-ij7cr Рік тому +6

    This is in fckn Indiana?

  • @cowboy-alex
    @cowboy-alex Рік тому +11

    My highschool didn't any of those nice things.

    • @skidmoda
      @skidmoda Рік тому

      Nor mine, but they are doing something right. Only $9k per student, so it is worth finding out if something people can replicate within reason.

  • @thedustmancometh
    @thedustmancometh Рік тому +9

    That’s past mall and approaching town status! That much stuff should be able to pay for itself, if you want to incorporate in some business management.

    • @sebcw1204
      @sebcw1204 Рік тому +3

      please no, we have enough tax funded business making profit off the back of the taxpayers.

  • @feelsgoodman9737
    @feelsgoodman9737 Рік тому +8

    A nice safe 95% white area to live.

  • @josepheridu3322
    @josepheridu3322 Рік тому +2

    What equality? It is a school with over 3000 students. That is a reasonable size for so many students.

    • @ironturtle89
      @ironturtle89 Рік тому +2

      Way more. It's edging towards 6,000.

    • @ericb9931
      @ericb9931 Рік тому

      My graduating class was 176 lol

  • @monicamehta3337
    @monicamehta3337 Рік тому +3

    Wow. I grew up in Orange County, CA. Not exactly a slummy area by any means. But this makes my HS look like it’s in the ghetto of a downtown high volume city when it’s actually a suburban, high value home area.
    Despite having one of the best performing arts programs in the state- we had to bus 30 min to a different school in our district to use their auditorium. Our “home” games for football & swim were at neighboring schools due to not having a stadium or pool. Our SAT scores & overall gpa’s were also top in district of 12 schools. But I never even knew how crappy our school was until I visited other states as an adult.

  • @Dkvizu
    @Dkvizu Рік тому +23

    This is what happens when educational funding is based on the surrounding property value. So do yourselves a favor and make sure you have a few million in your back pocket so your kid can go to fully funded school

    • @tonys7524
      @tonys7524 Рік тому +8

      This school district in Indiana spends $10.3K per student. Less than half what is spent on Baltimore public schools.

    • @lajoieurmom6011
      @lajoieurmom6011 Рік тому +2

      @@sillybilly121212 fr even though they don't actually deserve it

    • @Dkvizu
      @Dkvizu Рік тому

      @@sillybilly121212 lol enjoy that boot. I love working class people they worship the rich and act like the system isn’t completely one sided. Lol these clowns are hilarious

    • @Dkvizu
      @Dkvizu Рік тому

      @@sillybilly121212 yeah I’d love that. No reason anyone should have 100 billion while people have none. I’m glad you understand that

    • @Dkvizu
      @Dkvizu Рік тому

      @Lèmon Lēe lol you googled how much is spend on a child in Baltimore and ripped that figure from the super reputable Daytona247now and reporting from Fox News who in court has stated they are not news and they shouldn’t be believed but you do you.

  • @haveaseatmarj
    @haveaseatmarj Рік тому +16

    The demographics for Carmel, IN is sobering

    • @-Primer-
      @-Primer- Рік тому +16

      AKA winning. Good culture breeds good values and outcomes.

    • @always_markb
      @always_markb Рік тому

      @@sillybilly121212 you can breed culture. you can breed children differently as well, but there has to be some will to do so. which is the difference.

    • @very7962
      @very7962 Рік тому +5

      @@sillybilly121212if only people understood that…
      It’s a culture problem. No matter how much money you give to trash, very little of it will turn out will.
      Some of it might, but the rest will be the same pipeline

  • @jscottupton
    @jscottupton Рік тому +22

    Yearly cost per student...under $10,000 which is FAR less than many schools. Also keep in mind that there are almost 6,000 students which explains why they have more than one gym and so many specialty rooms. Most of all, the "customers" (parents) are mostly republicans so they don't put up with waste, fraud and abuse by administrators.

    • @trevorandrade
      @trevorandrade Рік тому

      Exactly. You could waste more money easily on people instead of facilities.

    • @wizardmongol4868
      @wizardmongol4868 11 місяців тому +1

      seems like theyre not wasting another 10k per student through restorative justice policies or administrators etc lol

  • @spyderj3756
    @spyderj3756 Рік тому +1

    Carmel is one of the richest areas in ALL of Indiana.

  • @joegar3174
    @joegar3174 Рік тому +3

    I've been there it's pretty cool and the volunteers students we got for our competition awesome. Keep up the good work, teachers and staff. And schoolboard

  • @Mike-xz9dg
    @Mike-xz9dg Рік тому +1

    And this is our one non white kid.

  • @tonys7524
    @tonys7524 Рік тому +13

    This school district in Indiana spends $10.3K per student. Less than half what is spent on Baltimore public schools.

    • @Loquacious_Jackson
      @Loquacious_Jackson Рік тому

      What are you implying?

    • @tonys7524
      @tonys7524 Рік тому +11

      @@Loquacious_Jackson The description of the video talks about this being a case of inequity, and many of the comments claim this school district is being treated more favorably than urban areas. I'm simply proving evidence to the contrary.

    • @Loquacious_Jackson
      @Loquacious_Jackson Рік тому +1

      @@tonys7524 reported for misinformation

    • @KingNicotine
      @KingNicotine Рік тому +11

      @@Loquacious_Jackson ...I actually looked up these numbers...he's entirely correct. Let me give you a hint...just because you don't want it to be true doesn't mean it isn't. Grow up...

    • @Loquacious_Jackson
      @Loquacious_Jackson Рік тому

      @@KingNicotine racist

  • @pluribus_unum
    @pluribus_unum Рік тому +3

    These kids deserve to be proud of their school, as should all kids.
    But, we should acknowledge that it's not an accident that the most resources, attention, and amenities are given to a high school in one of the most snow white communities in Indiana, a segregation very much due to housing discrimination and public racism, not purchaser choice.
    "...this is a city that also has never elected someone who is not white to serve either as mayor or on city council. Likewise, every department head is white."
    "In the Carmel Clay School District only 10 out of the more than 1,000 teachers, or less than 1%, are Black. All of the 65 administrators are white. That means young Black people in the community rarely see adults who look like them."
    "Those factors, as well, as some troubling decisions from the past, have fueled the perception - deserved or not - that Black people are less welcome here. Of the handful of Black Carmel residents IndyStar talked to, most were reluctant to generalize a whole city, but also acknowledged the city's lack of diversity is a problem and that many people they encounter in the city have outdated views of minorities."
    "They recounted tales of inappropriate jokes in church, the use of racial slurs in schools and experiences of being racially profiled." - The Indianapolis Star, July 12th, 2020

    • @AmandaFromWisconsin
      @AmandaFromWisconsin Рік тому +1

      Why is there always a laser focus on black people, as though black people are the only non-white race on Earth?

    • @ElanaVital83
      @ElanaVital83 Рік тому

      😂

  • @reinburhythm3215
    @reinburhythm3215 Рік тому +17

    I was supposed to go to this school until I moved away right before the year started (literally chose my courses and everything). 2 years later, one of my new friends found this video and told me he felt really bad for me cause I didn't end up going...

  • @Vincentschneider007
    @Vincentschneider007 11 місяців тому +2

    I read that others think since Carmel is such an affluent area, the schools gets all the funds from the city. Wrong. Carmel High School is way more underfunded than the inner city schools by far. It has to do with the parents demanding quality schools, teachers and administration. Along with law enforcement. Clay township schools meets these demands put on by the parents in the city. Alot of parents also volunteer their own time to assist in making this school as good as it is by demanding their kids perform in school.

  • @divinelyprotected144
    @divinelyprotected144 Рік тому +4

    This is phenomenal!

  • @najhoant
    @najhoant Рік тому +2

    It looks like how TV producers think high schools look

  • @r3dm4il
    @r3dm4il Рік тому +2

    ha, if people got triggered by this high-school, you should check out some of the middle schools and high schools in Texas.

  • @lenaeportee5627
    @lenaeportee5627 Рік тому +2

    I went to a high school similar to this one except no live radio we had pools and agriculture which was really nice.

  • @micke_mango
    @micke_mango Рік тому +2

    To be able to solve the schooling problem (and healthcare, social welfare etc.) you need to stop your phobia of high taxes.
    In order for that to become true, you must get rid of corruption (i. e. non tax funding, including political campaigns).
    That's difficult in a country like the US, where so few people have experience of a non-corrupt system, with publicly funded political campaigns.
    Companies shouldn't be allowed to fund stuff at all with un-taxed money. They should pay higher taxes instead.
    Without trust in the spending of public money, things will never be better.
    And throw away your ridiculously outdated constitution...
    Start looking at other countries that have done things better than the US for ages

  • @crimsonking1133
    @crimsonking1133 Рік тому +1

    Schools like these exist when funds are properly used. Ask your school where and how they use the funds.

  • @Not.Creative
    @Not.Creative Місяць тому

    As a person who lived in Carmel, the school was and still is massive and chaotic but still really fun.

  • @The_Highlander001
    @The_Highlander001 Рік тому +21

    Nice to live in a rich community that is mostly white. Republicans really know how to treat white kids.

    • @christineferreira2181
      @christineferreira2181 Рік тому +6

      I saw a couple black kids in the gym.

    • @tonys7524
      @tonys7524 Рік тому +6

      This school district in Indiana spends $10.3K per student. Less than half what is spent on Baltimore public schools..

    • @anglobear2027
      @anglobear2027 Рік тому

      @@tonys7524 He doesn't care. He wants to shake a fist a Whitey.

    • @sillybilly121212
      @sillybilly121212 Рік тому +1

      yeah, pretty much. Sorry white people are successful and care about their kids?

    • @vipinv.george8412
      @vipinv.george8412 Рік тому

      Mostly white community is generally having lesser crime rate

  • @denkikaminari2276
    @denkikaminari2276 5 місяців тому

    As a student from another extremely well funded Indiana high school, even I think this is insane. A building and school this well funded is great, but it’s heartbreaking to know that a lot of schools don’t receive even a fraction of support that this school does. The students there should feel blessed by the opportunity of getting to attend such a school, and the system needs to work on supporting other schools the way they do Carmel.

  • @EpicBenjo
    @EpicBenjo Рік тому +1

    This is a HIGH SCHOOL?? I’ve seen universities that aren’t even this nice!

  • @NorthBayFCT
    @NorthBayFCT Рік тому +1

    I went to a good public high school (academically) and we didn’t have any special amenities. Our football team played on a patch of messed up grass.

  • @BlueDino07
    @BlueDino07 Рік тому

    Info to a school in a rural area with only 1,100. They recently started adding on a 2nd gym to our schoo, which I though was a lot, but after seeing this school, I’m blown by how amazing the facilities are.

  • @treytison1444
    @treytison1444 Рік тому +1

    4 gyms is ridiculous but if there's like 5000 kids there then it makes sense

  • @hero4life338
    @hero4life338 Рік тому +2

    as someone who lives in central indiana, carmel has gained a large reputation for being an interesting and rich area. ask ANYONE who lives/lived in indiana and theyll tell you stories/experiences from there haha

    • @always_markb
      @always_markb Рік тому

      Especially minorities. They have wonderful tales from Carmel/Hamilton County

  • @JohnRay1969
    @JohnRay1969 Рік тому +2

    Inequality in public schools exists because funding for public schools is one of the first things cut from budgets by politicians and predictably the poorest areas suffer the most and some random wealthy schools sneak through without losing funds because wealthy parents either pay to make up the difference or pay to keep their funding in place.

  • @napalmholocaust9093
    @napalmholocaust9093 Рік тому +14

    This is what funding from property taxes gets you. Or you could live by a giant refinery that has a permanent tax easement and be lucky to get used books. Great system 😒

    • @celieboo
      @celieboo Рік тому +1

      This comment deserves 1000 likes.

    • @MB-jz3uu
      @MB-jz3uu Рік тому

      Shouldn't all these taxes throughout the whole state just get equally distributed amongst the districts based on population. I feel like that'd be a lot more fair. Smaller cities don't need as much funding because they don't have as many students or teachers but the inner city schools have large populations of students and teachers so they need the most money.

  • @sjcflawless
    @sjcflawless Рік тому +1

    That isn’t a HS, that’s a University! Whoa! 😮

  • @dannyfa7x
    @dannyfa7x Рік тому +2

    That entire town throws money around like it’s no thing at all. Their football stadium can seat 6,000 people.
    It’s a little over the top compared to my little school. It was good but we didn’t have nearly as nice stuff as this. Low population density will do that.
    Our teachers did well with what they had. And let’s not lie, by what they contributed from their own pockets too.

  • @jedhawkins1769
    @jedhawkins1769 Місяць тому

    Man, I wish my high school was like that. Lets end school inequality together so all our high schools be as good as this.

  • @GolDGreg
    @GolDGreg Рік тому +4

    Wonderful a school looks like is, tragic all schools don’t, but it’s certainly unfair that schools I see on a daily basis are run down while this is better than many colleges.

  • @megawave79
    @megawave79 Рік тому +1

    dont be whining and trying to make the school worse because they actually spend the money they get properly. they make proper use of their money and spend less than most of the other schools with only around 9k per student.

  • @gtv6chuck
    @gtv6chuck Рік тому

    My high school had most of these things, except on a smaller scale due to having 2000 students. We had a pool, art classes, a school auditorium/orchestra, tennis and racquetball courts and so on. I went there in the 80s, and it was one of the best schools in the state in quality and academics. Now it's the 157st ranked high school the state.

  • @baibureh8816
    @baibureh8816 Рік тому +1

    Why is this news ???
    It is like this in every country in the world.
    Nice places have nice schools
    Poor places have poorer schools.

  • @NationJJ
    @NationJJ Рік тому +2

    Not surprised though. Today, I laugh about the high school in Chicago, that I attended. Neighborhood has gentrified significantly so the school now has grass and athletic field. I remember a friend recently mentioned learning how to cook because of high school cooking class and I'm like, "you're high school had a cooking class?!" 😅😅 I definitely would have known sooner, what career I would have wanted, if my school had more resources. Even my teachers were fed up with school. 😅

  • @KeA317
    @KeA317 Рік тому +42

    FYI, Carmel is one of the schools we faced for sports in our school’s division. You want to talk about some of the most snobby, entitled kids I’ve ever met? Carmel is the kind of town that looks you up and down before they would ever say hello. And I think this video shows all of us from surrounding high schools just how much privilege and special treatment they get for having lived in a area with just a couple more wealthy people. It’s sickening. Especially when my school has had professional sports players and Olympic athletes as alum, it doesn’t make any sense to me why our school doesn’t have enough funding for like half of this.

    • @isailevilopez5134
      @isailevilopez5134 Рік тому +13

      Get over yourself 😂😂😂😂

    • @doncarlo4576
      @doncarlo4576 Рік тому +3

      I'll be okay with more auto shop, woodshed and electronic classes gotta learn a trade early

    • @KeA317
      @KeA317 Рік тому

      @@doncarlo4576 and i can definitely get behind that idea. Anything possible to help adolescents into adulthood and enter society easier. But our school had to create a whole program just to bus students to another high school so they could have a chance at classes like shop or vocational trainings or even certain science courses. And some schools around here aren’t even given that chance.

    • @skatemo100
      @skatemo100 Рік тому

      @@isailevilopez5134 Found the deep throater, get those boots out of your mouth son.

    • @idrinkbleach1466
      @idrinkbleach1466 Рік тому +6

      It’s the only school in that area with about 6,000 students to accommodate to, of course it’s going to have a lot of options

  • @emilydavis745
    @emilydavis745 Рік тому +2

    Fantastic tour guides

  • @HeihachiMain
    @HeihachiMain Рік тому +1

    This makes my high school look like it was a state penitentiary.

  • @lafeil
    @lafeil Рік тому +1

    Here question how are schools across nation spending their funds?

  • @Tomkat55
    @Tomkat55 Рік тому +1

    “And this is how the rest of the public schools look…..”
    -crickets
    -crickets
    -crickets

  • @MrG360oneX
    @MrG360oneX Рік тому +14

    I graduated out of class of only 12 people from a school so small theres only two hallways. One for elementary students and the other for middle and high school students and the school's football team is a 6-man. These kids are lucky, i wish i had as many educational options as them

    • @PhotonBread
      @PhotonBread Рік тому +1

      Most kids here accept the fact they are lucky to have a school like this. High Schools in central Indiana are just downright massive

    • @katiejon17
      @katiejon17 Рік тому

      Your educational opportunities fall squarely on your parents and on you. Even homeschooling parents are giving their children amazing educations with very little. If you didn't do well from learning to read and learning basic math... then you just don't make the cut.

    • @laborincana4490
      @laborincana4490 Рік тому

      @@katiejon17 i guess you are a neoliberal that blames poor people for being poor. You're the one who needs to read more.

    • @katiejon17
      @katiejon17 Рік тому

      @@laborincana4490 poor people are poor in the US because they choose to be, yes. I was “poor” until 30, when I finally became a nurse. I worked my butt off and supported myself to EARN a better life. Am I rich? Not even close. I earn a very modest living, but I spend significantly less money on “non-essentials” than people who earn even less than I do. It’s basic math.... with is taught in basic schools, not just fancy ones.

    • @marisela7825
      @marisela7825 Рік тому

      ​@@katiejon17 it always amazes me to come across people with your ignorant beliefs, no understanding of how different people have different life experiences, and yet you are a NURSE. I feel for anyone under your care that you may see as beneath you!!! You clearly have a dislike for certain people different than yourself and I worry how many patients have lost life at your hands?!? Believe it or not, if people had a choice no one would CHOOSE TO BE POOR. White Americans have a far better advantage in many areas wether you choose to believe it or not. The eyes will never see what the mind chooses to remain blind to.

  • @dababy4182
    @dababy4182 Рік тому +1

    fyi this is what public schools should be.for everyone

  • @deltawright9115
    @deltawright9115 Рік тому

    WHY IS IT SO BIG! IT’S INSANE!

  • @sebastiandelacruz3849
    @sebastiandelacruz3849 Рік тому

    Bruh. The high school i went to was one “big” square with 3 stories. Leaks everywhere. Heater breaks during winter. Only had a tennis court. We only had a swimming, tennis, soccer and volleyball teams.

  • @cloud9847
    @cloud9847 Рік тому +1

    I think we need to be more upset that this isn't the standard...not that it's so much nicer.
    Why is this not the standard Highschool in America? We're a wealthy enough nation that it should be.

  • @8888stealth
    @8888stealth День тому

    I see why some people peak in High School now.

  • @anewberr
    @anewberr Рік тому +1

    This is by far the wealthiest community in Indiana. All of the students live in gated communities.

    • @jimmywilliams2108
      @jimmywilliams2108 4 місяці тому

      Most all of them live in nice houses, not many live in gated communities. I should know, I went there.

    • @harperb6006
      @harperb6006 3 місяці тому

      i have never met a single person in carmel who lives in a gated community

  • @Anti-socialSocialClub
    @Anti-socialSocialClub Рік тому

    This is surreal. I went to a super expensive private school and we didn't have half of the stuff these guys have!.

    • @Dwight_
      @Dwight_ Рік тому

      in the us? our outside?

  • @Kennychiwah1
    @Kennychiwah1 Рік тому

    Bro that one school has more room than all the schools I've went to in my life time

  • @blvckswvndmv
    @blvckswvndmv Рік тому +2

    This is bs

  • @nevaehhamilton3493
    @nevaehhamilton3493 Рік тому

    I'm not going to complain like the rest of you. School's architecture didn't matter all that much to me.

  • @owenpancoast1163
    @owenpancoast1163 Рік тому +3

    Imagine how long it takes to walk between classes there

    • @alexanderdiaz6396
      @alexanderdiaz6396 Рік тому

      Lmao they probably have a transportation service too 😂

    • @peachythoughts542
      @peachythoughts542 Рік тому

      we don’t have transports and passing period is only ten minutes but like she said the freshmen center has all the classes in one area

    • @harperb6006
      @harperb6006 3 місяці тому

      10 minute passing periods, which you really do need, especially because the traffic gets really bad.

  • @bigotsmasher2936
    @bigotsmasher2936 6 місяців тому

    I graduated from Carmel High School in the 1970’s. Only the Dale Graham Auditorium (the namesake was an excellent principal) looks familiar to me.

  • @peterjohnson1734
    @peterjohnson1734 Рік тому +12

    It certainly appears that this school district does a better job of budgeting than inferior school systems that spend twice as much.

  • @dvdv8197
    @dvdv8197 Рік тому

    First thought that comes to mind:
    Look at all that diversity!!

  • @markbenjamin1703
    @markbenjamin1703 Рік тому +10

    $9k per student Vs $21k per student in Baltimore PS. Demographics and culture play a larger role in people in the way they appreciate and treat things

  • @josepheridu3322
    @josepheridu3322 Рік тому +3

    WTF I love republican states now.

  • @planetcoasterboycj7274
    @planetcoasterboycj7274 7 місяців тому

    They should have given us a little more time to look at each room before moving on.

  • @moniqueluzey3514
    @moniqueluzey3514 Рік тому +1

    This is how all high schools should be!

  • @lindsaydouros7850
    @lindsaydouros7850 Рік тому +8

    If you want better for your kids then do something about it. I live in a fairly poor rural area, yet we have a fabulous school system. Why? Because the people and businesses in this area take pride in the school system and support the kids. People step up and help out where needed and offer financial what they can. Not everything is about race. Sometimes it’s priorities that are lacking.

    • @KingNicotine
      @KingNicotine Рік тому

      ...completely agree. People are complaining about race...about it being "rich"...ect. If anyone cares to look into this Carmel HS spends roughly 10K a year per student. Compare that to city schools like Baltimore or Boston...where they spend roughly $25K per student per year. To me this schools speaks volumes about what can be if the community, faculty and students care about school.

    • @lyndalarose9200
      @lyndalarose9200 Рік тому

      Sounds like you're implying that people of color don't take pride in their schooling and facilities. Have to disagree with you here.

  • @Juicy_J713
    @Juicy_J713 Рік тому +2

    Indiana has the 4th most equitable school funding in the country. Carmel gets 40% less funding per student than the inner city schools in Indianapolis. Their parents and their culture are why they are successful.

  • @trekkie1995
    @trekkie1995 Рік тому

    I see nothing wrong with studenys proudly showing off their 5A school. Those who are having an issue with it have a choice, either "put their money where their mouth is" and give more or do more to raise more funds for theirs schools or hush up and get a life. Noone wants to hear from someone when all they do is gripe and complain and do nothing to contribute to the betterment of what they are complaining about.