A Brutally Honest Interview of Expat Life in Chile (2020) | Expats Everywhere
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- Nina is an expat living in Santiago, Chile and she openly talks to Josh from ExpatsEverywhere about the expat life there. She is brutally honest about the safety, health care, the weather, the cost of living, meeting people, things to do, and so much more that you won't want to miss this full interview about this beautiful city.
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The title is not meant to be click bait. We've done a lot of interviews now and apart from a couple Saudi interviews and one about the Rep. of Georgia, Nina pulls no punches when talking about what she likes about Santiago and what she doesn't. We really appreciate her authenticity. She has a lot of valuable content over at The Expater.
She has that croaky narcissist voice so I bet you a million pounds that she has a non-white husband and hates white. Her blog is to spread globalism and feminism by her voice.
Who said it’s click bait? Why even bring that up?
Bull. She sounds like a well educated person who is well-traveled. Stop with the stereotyping.
😍🤞🤞😮🇨🇱😁 gran video
Why do you call her "expat"? I don't think she's banned from the UK, like our former exiles.
She's a migrant from the UK working in Chile. That's how we call it in Spanish here. Not immigrant because she doesn't seem to stay for long in one country and it's not "PC" to call even proper immigrants that way it seems, so everyone is a migrant.
I know you people use those terms (immigrants, migrants) in English, so why she's an "expat" (doesn't exist or at least it's not used in Chilean Spanish).
Thanks in advance.
As a Chilean, I appreciate the sincerity of the interviewee and the channel for giving the opportunity to see my country from another point of view.
Thanks for the comment and openness.
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She's right tbh, people in the comments dont like her perspective because it just goes backwards on their own reality, basically, if you are rich, its a country as good as any other north-american/european one, if you are broke, you are going to suffer a lot and its really not worth the effort in the long run
Thanks for the comment, Felipe. We appreciate your balanced perspective.
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@@billmuno7191 how
Sounds like every other country in the world except the US 😂
@@andysung1026 being poor in the US is terrible as well...not starving to death terrible but...in terms of ever hoping to achieve any reasonable amount of your own property terrible. Basically wage slavery.
I am Chilean, I can say that the lady on the video is right. I was living On Santiago, and the best areas to live are providencia, las condes, vitacura, and they are the most expensives. I was living on Providencia (manuel mont street), there i was renting an apartment of 70 square meters, for my wife and me. we spend monthly 460000 CLP, on food our monthly spend was 200000 CLP, locomotion, well it depends on if you drive your own car or if you use public transport, but the last one is very cheap. finally i must say that now i am living on La Serena, a beautyful ciity on the coast, and here the quality of life is better, and the life cost is very much cheaper than Santiago (we have all the costs comfortably covered with only 800.000 CLP).
Thanks for the input, Alex. We appreciate you adding so much rich detail here. Thanks for your time.
@@ExpatsEverywhere HI. another thing to consider is the health inssurance. Here in Chile you could be on Fonasa (the public system) or in the private system (ISAPRE), The first one is very bad, it means wait for very long times to get medical attention, burocracy, and so on. ISAPRE could be more expensive (only a few more), but really it worths, is fast, the medical attention is better, is by far the best. you can find more info here: www.pacificprime.com/country/americas/chile-health-insurance-pacific-prime-international/
Very interesting. Here in New Zealand I spend per week- $500 rent(Couldnt find cheaper),$140 food, $50 train, $50 petrol for weekends,$20 fibre, $30 power = $790 total . The average wage is $826 meaning a single average income earner will struggle to provide. There are now no cheap rental homes anymore and people in their late 30s sharing a home which is new. In 2010 my rent was $300 for an entire 3 bedroom house and yard in a smaller town. Dont you find it funny how she pronounces ChilEE
@@echtigren8188 Math is about $980.00 USD
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Santiago is a very beautiful European style city ! Many Germans immigrated there after the last major conflict .
Germans started immigrating to Chile long before the last major conflict.
You mean Nazis?
the mostly went to the south.
Germans move to Chile in 19 century
most of the city isn't "European" lol
All the major cities I’ve been to in Chile, with the exception of Antofagasta, were really great, and livable by the standards of most Europeans or Americans/Canadians. Valparaiso/Viña Del Mar, Santiago, and Valdivia were ones I really enjoyed. The north, mainly due to its aridity and isolation, is rather unwelcoming as far as livability, but is fun if you’re into surfing, desert activities, rock-hounding, and amateur astronomy. Arica was so strange but kind of fun; it’s a hybrid between a desert wasteland, and a surfing/fishing town. It was so hot and inhospitable up north 🥵
What's the problem with Antofagasta?
Very good objective interview. I my self I’m an American living in Chile with my Chilean husband. I’ve been here for 6 years already and she is right a lot does depend on where you live.
Thank you for your comment, Elisia. Have a great day.
@@ExpatsEverywhere You should interview him (Jon Gross) He lives in the real Chile, it is different to live in regions than in the capital. It is much cheaper and you can enjoy nature moreua-cam.com/channels/7l9rGOiivUZ8UGd8P49rmQ.html
finally! super objective interview, absolutely true, I have lived in Chile for 27 years and I know how it was for my parents!
thanx for the info.
Cheers, Sebastian! Thanks for the comment and perspective. 😊
fantastic interview one of the best I have run across.cheers
Wow, thank you! We really appreciate that compliment, Jonni. Spread the good news. :-)
In Chile the police will not rob you, in Mexico they will, Chile is moderately safe, compare to Mexico it is extremely safe, compare to the USA it depends on location.
at this time chile looks really bad. chile will probably 90% chance will vote a communist as president. al of today people are asking for more pension to be withdrawn. those funds are for retirement and not to take out today. these people will not retiremet when old. chile will become very poor soon. in about 5 years dupermrkets like jumbo and santa isable will be gone. property value will decrase and poverty will rise
Yes , they will
@@billmuno7191 Wn mentiroso 🤥
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@@pf1402 Boric ganó la elección Chile en decadencia.
Moving to a country based on the low cost of living (like Nina confesses to having done with Chile) when you will be earning local wages is like marrying a person based on their shoe size: REALLY wrong.
(Of course it's very different when you live off a pension paid in another currency.)
The Cost of living is often fairly proportional to the incomes generated in a country, for many obvious reasons. When a currency is weak (like the Chilean Pesos is), it means all goods imported are very expensive. If this coincides with a weak manufacturing base, the reslut means an even higher percentage of goods must be imported, so even higher costs => even less personal savings. Plus, travelling abroad for them (and the destination country in her case will be often be England, which has a far stronger currency than Chile) will result in yet higher costs again!
The decisive financial factor (as a locally salaried / locally monthly earning employee !) for choosing a country to emmigrate should ALWAYS be the annual savings potential, as this represents the complete income minus the complete spend, including all taxes. In fact, Nina talks about this as a major realization NOW: that they are not saving NEARLY enough in Chile. Had she chosen the destination country a bit more wisely (based upon the annual savings potential, NOT the cost of living) she wouldn't have this problem at all. This is all a bit surprising given that Nina has apparently lived in Brussels and therefore knows how earnings and cost of living can correlate.
Case in point: Switzerland has one of the highest costs of living on the planet, but at the same time ALSO the among highest accumulated WEALTH (approx. 580'000 USD per capita!).
So the costs of living don't matter so much when you make your money in the same country, since the high costs are generally coupled with the high salaries. It might look expensive from the OUTSIDE, but for a member of an "expensive" (yet highly prosperous) society, living there is actually NOT expensive and personal wealth accumulation can be huge. (Again, this can change for someone on a pension.)
Still - thank you for the interesting video and good luck to her on her next journey. Why is she leaving Chile and where is she off to?
Thanks, Chris. We can't argue at all with you're rationale. We agree. Speaking to Nina off camera, her situation was a little more nuanced for the interview itself, but basically she and her husband enjoy South America and he had an work opportunity to take them there for a time and once they were at a point where they could reevaluate wether to stay longer or not. According to IG, she's the UK with a moved to Uruguay pending.
@@ExpatsEverywhere Thank you, very interesting. Yes, I understand that such interview can never cover ALL the details.
I hope you can mix a drink much better than you can a metaphor!
what cities in Switzerland would you recommend?
@@basicinfo2022 this depends where you are coming from: first, you should choose the REGION based on which of the 3 large language populations are closest to your culture of origin. French, Italian or German type culture. Then, choose a prosperous city that offers things important to you: Basel has a lot of pharmaceutical jobs to offer, Zürich is banking, insurance and services, Bern has many health, administrative and government jobs on offer, Geneva has banking, luxury goods, travel and educational jobs, etc.
Heading out soon, this was incredibly helpful thank you
This is a very very very CITY centered description of Chile.
Chile is about the country side and decidedly NOT Santiago! Why? Santiago is a big nasty city that is not very attractive and is hot in the summer and miserable and cold in the winter with terrible air to breath since it is in a large valley.
For most Chileans and for people visiting Chile, Santiago is NOT Chile.
If you have not been out of Santiago then you might as well stay in what ever city you are now in.
Visit Pucon. Vina De Mar. Frutillar, Puerto Varas, Puerto Ocaty, Caburgua, Chiloe! Caratera Austral ..... Now that is Chile. Jim in Chile
Sure, the interviewee is based in Santiago, Chile.
We're more than happy to have you on so that you can give a contrasting opinion to expat life in Chile. If you're interested, email us at expatseverywhere@gmail.com and we'll set something up.
What about valdevia? How is that city?
@@JonDoe-dt9uz You are asking someone who finds all cities lacking to say the least. One does not go to a steak house and order chicken, or a sea food restaurant and order buffalo!
The beauty of Chile is in its country side. It is SPECTACULAR! The cities are well cities. Most are nasty but some actually have so attractions worth seeing. Even this is rare with some exceptions in Chile. Valdivia is interesting for one days visit. Jim
Big ‘Nasty City? That’s not my experience of Santiago de Chile with lovely,clean modern tree lined streets, beautiful elegant residential areas. Very safe and with lots of gardens.... I wonder where in Santiago did you live ? I live in London , in a very nice area but London also like all big cities has ‘ ugly areas’ . Santiago y a very
pleasant city... the only thing I agree with you is about the air quality. You just need to pay more to live in a nicer area , just like anywhere.
@@marchileno how is valdevia?
Thank you so much, very good, that Is a good View of a english madame about Chile and her experiences, very clear and honest
Gonzalo Bravo Thank you for the comment and support! 🙏
Unfortunately Chile is way too expensive, for what you get. Most chileans will agree. Compared to other countries. It is an awesome country. But economy has been stuck since 2013, due to structural reasons of lack of diversification of exports. And that has been noticiable in quality of life, protests, unrest. Labor market is not good, salaries neither. And many problems. So it is a challenge for next governments and citizens, hopefully things improve
I am from Chile living in the Uk my son who is half British half chilean was born in a public hospital in Chile and it was amazing.
But she is right Chile is very expensive, everyone is in debts. To much poverty doesn’t help either.
I love my country but is difficult to live there unless you going there with a good job my family earns good money but you have to be a professional to secure a good salary and live in a safe and nice area, Nursery in Chile is free and private the free ones are amazing nothing to envy to private nurseries in the UK.
But after all to visit Chile is a such a beautiful country to visit we have the driest desert in the world and in the other side we have the Patagonia and antártica. ❤️❤️
Brereton's mom. Are you?
Is your son Ben Brereton? 😂
@@TheCdr19 LOL, No my son is 7 😂
Great insights, thanks Nina. I lived in Santiago for two years, 2012-2013. No kids back then, and I was working remotely (earning a full-time professional Australian salary), so I lived very comfortably! Having a local job no doubt would have been a different story. Been back in Sydney for many years, got two kids now. Nina is 100% right about (decent) healthcare and education being expensive in Chile, that's the main reason why I'd be reluctant to live there with kids. Here the cost of living is high, but the cost of those critical services is much lower. Also, yes, Santiago is safe, clean, and has good amenities by Latin American standards, but not by Aussie standards.
Hey I’m actually from Sydney and looking to move to South America with my wife and child. Aside from Chile, do you think there’s other countries I should look with my current situation? I have a job that allows me to work from anywhere
@@chrislioo Uruguay is the only other country that I would seriously consider, at this point in time, in terms of a place to live with more-or-less Western levels of comfort and safety with kids. Argentina (where I also spent a lot of time and of where I have fond memories) has unfortunately deteriorated a lot in the past decade. Brazil has Western level infrastructure and services (at least in the bigger cities), but also has significantly worse crime. Peru, Ecuador and Colombia are great places for tourism (and I've enjoyed backpacking in all three of them), but really are developing countries, and are therefore significantly more challenging for gringos to live in.
@@jazepstein thanks for the response - I'll be looking into Uruguay!
These are great questions and they were answered expertly.
Thank you, Matthew.
@@ExpatsEverywhere I have lived in Costa Rica now for three years and am thinking of trying out Chile :) Thanks for the valuable information.
Algeria 🇩🇿 always stands with Chile 🇨🇱 United and amicable
Thank you, Wahida!
Appreciate
Thanks 😊
chilean australia god viva chiloe chile i was born my spanish not best
what does this mean ?
@@quwipyui6519 am chilean i hate genicide why do we chuilean have to speak spanish if chile ., can change constution change language and it money ., so world will think any can do bad on earth get away with get dont reply if you hate me i repeat dont reply to me vreply to government of chile not me i live in australia thank you very mush
Love the title and video
Really enjoyed this interview. Plenty of information. Also helpful information in the comments.
Thank you. We're glad that you enjoyed it!
She wants to live UK in Chile.
You definitely have to adopt the country, people and it’s culture. Chile is not Europe. It’s also about the entire country not just one City
Chile is german
It’s not that you only need to have contacts, you have to be really good “and” also have contacts…..jobs and position are way more competitive over there and salaries are lower for the same job (for a similar standard of living)…..and it’s not easy to find positions with good salaries, like manager or something similar, because most of the people go to the University, have a degree, but the “job market” is very small, and it’s not gonna grow much more….so more offer with the same demand….makes it harder.
My grandfather arrived in Chile with no money and a wife and a baby in 1935 from England. He never learned the language but brought a lot of representations from the U.S. and Europe within five to ten years he was a multi millionare. He got Monsantos for all of South America, Rolls Royce airoplane engines and many others representations, he had Chilean partners to help him with his business. If you are a boss in Chile you can do very well. Althought Boric has changed a lot of that.
This was somewhat helpful I guess. I really wish Nina had talked more about health care and related costs. For me it would be a primary reason for living abroad, i.e., cheaper health care. No discussion about living abroad is complete without a thorough discussion regarding the cost of health care and how to access it.
what is the name of the company that helped you?
True, it's all about who you know, rather than what you know. One issue with what she's saying... If you don't speak Spanish to a high standard, you are not going to get a decent job... Just like in the UK you are not going to get a decent job without English. Also, it depends on your skills, scientific/technical are much more appreciated than humanistic which is what she have
What was the name of the company she used to help her with her visa?
Woooo/!! OMG,, your children are so beautiful,, wonderful family..
Yes, France, Italy Belgium.... Syria.. same thing really. Got a coffee in one, didn't get my head cut off by maniacs in the other... But quite nice over all
For a family of 4 You need 35k a year to live in Chile comfortable IMO.
Interesting view but in order to understand the cost of living in Santiago but you should probably tell us your qualifications, if you have a university degree, how many ours you work and what would you earn in the same job and experience in the UK. as well in order to be objective you should inform us what you consider enough like you need a garden , you are OK with how many sq meters.... ( im mentioning this as your main CONS was regarding cost of living). I think its an interesting view but lacks of data.
I think she put it quite clear when she said that to get a job in Chile depends on many factors, especially on contacts. Also, it is quite different to find a job in your own country vs to do so abroad
This girl looks broken and super stressed. Not sure if she is a fair reference for all of the people of wanting to go to Chile one day. Well property is super expensive in Santiago as well as in London or any other country capital. Is sad people can’t afford houses anyMore without selling a kidney
I was expecting some numbers… “ you must be sure moving hire so you have enough money for at least 3 months…” yeah I learn a lot
It’s more expensive to live in Ohio than Santiago ,regardless I can make 50 to 60 k a year here and live an average lifestyle with nothing else to offer I could make half there and be comfortable with 10times the things to do .vespas are cheap and the transportation is always there plus it’s clean and safe looking to me compared to where I’m from in n America . It doesn’t seem as expensive as she’s making it even though you probably should have a profession or trade. Going as an urban farmer would be a pretty successful relatively affordable way to do well there and not have a problem you would make a similar amount regardless for instance because it’s accessible produce. Might have to give it a shot soon 🤷🏻♂️
Living here in somewhat close to US standards requires a bit of coin. In Santiago, I would say 3.000.000 pesos per month, with kids, add 1.000.000 pesos per month per kid for a school and materials, health, etc. Move here with $50,000.
Thank you for your input, Perez Pepito! We love the detail you give with actual numbers in pesos per month.
lol no way. school is free and rent is 200.000 per month. if yoy dont speak spanish becaeful becausw chileans love money and are fos
@@billmuno7191 my numbers are In Santiago and at US standards. I've lived in Ñuble also, and yes school was 1/3 of the price and rent was 700.000 for a parcela. In Santiago, public schools are downright horrid. Actually CHILE writ large. But there are private schools in any price range. But something that educates your kids remotely equivalent to a US public school will cost at least 650.000 a month a kid. Plus uniforms, plus food plus transportation plus extracurriculars.
@@perezpepito104 you can rent a condo for 200,000 . people don't pay for the education in USA. they just want to keep their kids away from lower class kids. the public education in chile is fine. you have poor kids in mexico who barley went to school in mexico but make it to universities in USA. you are fooling yourself. put the kid in public school he will be just fine in Chile. if he gois back to USA they will give him a english and math test and put him in a grade in the USA. my friend just got his 3 grade daughter to USA. she doesnt even speak english and didn't go to a good school (compared to chile public school). anyways, the girl was placed in 3 grade in USA. lol 700 for rent? lmao you are a big sucker. i have a nice 3 br condo in central vina del mar. with parking, gym, pool, and walk to the beach. ill rent it out for you for 500,000 and you can rent out the other rooms if you want, u can also rent the parking spot if you want. to chilean the gargae rent will be 30,000 a month. to sucker? wow maybe 100,000 a month.
@@ExpatsEverywhere lol dont listen to perze lol
I'm a Chilean and German citizen. I do not agree that people are hired based on contacts only. There are few cases like that, but the majority who do not have those contacts are hired based on their competencies and experience. I agree that Chile is a very expensive country to live in, and salaries are not according to the living expenses. If Chilean people are organized and save money, they can have savings aside and pay their expenses and credit cards easily. It will depend on the discipline of people to save. The problem with money saving is that the majority of Chilean people are not taught since childhood to manage, save and invest money.
Hmmm this has got me thinking now. I've been offered a job in santiago teaching for like say a minimum of 25 hours a week at 10 USD an hour. I assumed that with me having saved up 5k in English sterling, even after I've paid for the expensive visa and flights that working a part time job with over 3k in savings would be more than doable in santigo, but now I'm not sure
$800.000 (CLP Chilean peso) it's almost 3 times the minimum salary. Average house renting is $400.000 in a decent place and calculate from $60.000 to $100.000 for transportation. It's not bad but you could negociate because the english courses in Chile are kinda expensive. You can even teach in private doubling the price they pay you for hour. The salary they are offering you it's not bad. You will maximize it if you live near the language center bc u will save a lot in transport. Hope to have you in Chile!
I have been offered an ESL job in Santiago (it sounds v similar to the one you have applied for). I can’t decide whether to do it when I’m apparently losing so much money for the visa alone from the UK… I’ve been watching these videos as the company needs a decision by tomorrow! Did you accept the position?
@@robmcg7182 I did accept the position yes! And it does cost SO much for visa and when put with the flight thats about 2k down at the start. But I've decided that I want to go regardless, the prospect of living in the country is too great for me, and also I had other job offers in indonesia for example, and the working visa was basically the same amount so it felt like I would have to take a hit no matter where I was accepted to. Even if this experience does go tits up, at least I'll have learned more what really is achievable through a tefl job, and if it goes great then ill be over the moon. Let me know how things go Rob :)
@@jakehoward2493 thanks for replying jake! That’s put my mind at ease that you decided to go for it. I honestly don’t understand the cost of the visa! But I’ll sleep on it anyway. Maybe I’ll see you in Chile, who knows it might be the same company we’re working for. 😁
@@robmcg7182 budding bromance ✌️
Couchsurfing! :D
And that's the best picture of Angola you could find. Mmh!!🤔
Sorry that you are so chilly.
Chileans nationals can buy houses because the Governament subsidy chileans with the proper requirement heavily.....I live in South Africa and I will apply
Thanks for the watch and comment. Have you seen this video about Chile from a South African? Are you originally from South Africa or living as an expat there? ua-cam.com/video/4Z9meMN0zWg/v-deo.html
who cares? Disregard that other question that we asked. Thank you for taking the time to respond to people here.
who cares? True
yes you can buy a nice condo en santiago for 60000 usd and in vina also. you can buy cheaper but i suggest buy new. goto bancoestado propidas en venta or goto yapo.cl for used propertys. cash is king in chile. if someone is selling a home for 50.000.000 you can bring it down to 30million. you just to need to know where to buy and where not to buy
do not but property in chile. chile economny will fall and poverty will rise. property vaules will drop. wait 5 years to buy in chile. thats if you want to live in a chile with 50% poverty. today chile is about 15 perscent poverty do u can imagine at 50% and with a communist government.
What is good Bucks... The same in any country if you can't afford living in the planet, well it will be hard anywhere
While you talking you should said po and cachai
Haha
Sounds crap but I’ve always been amazed by the mountains over there
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Indeed.
7:53 - Thats 1200 USD not 12000 USD
I’m not trying to be rude or mean in any way, but I feel like with her being a freelance writer, her experience is obviously going to be different from someone else who may work in the medical field, or any field really where you actually have to leave your house every day. They way her & her family live is not a social norm these days. They obviously have the financial stability to be able to live & work wherever & however they would like. Most people, in any country, if you have a family, it’s now a two income home. Where both parents, live the home & go to their respective places of work. Things aren’t as they use to be where one income, would be provide financial stability. I think this video isn’t a true representation
Dont go to estacion central in chile many pick pokets in that area and in the night dangerous
old video, I know but re Crimes, I just need to clues something for potential someone who is thinking about moving to Chile. Chile is ranked 27 in safety vs UK 45. this lady is just too scared of her own shadow and clearly is living a life an expat (a foreigner socializing with other foreigners from home country)
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I came across this today and interestingly, I am a Chilean expatriate living in Sydney (Down Under). The comparative income of a professional would be around a third of the same job here in Oz. If you live or are from a developed country, there is virtually no justification to live in any Latin American nation, so there must be certain circumstances that apply here.
For me, and although from Chile, the cultural barriers are the deal breakers. The social segregation and overall confusion between reality and hopes made me feel very uncomfortable and frustrated when I went back for holidays after 18 years away in 2018.
CHILEANS have been sold this idea that to be considered a developed nation you have to get some kind of certificate or title you get from some international entity and that they are pretty close to get this title. The reality is that it's unlikely that any of those nations will ever be developed, and this is greatly affected by their culture
Very interesting point of view, Pachi. If you'd ever like to do an interview with us about your life in Sydney, let us know and maybe we can make it happen. contact@expatseverywhere.com Thanks for your commentary here. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere I totally would!
Please bare in mind that I am an Australian citizen now so my views on Oz or Chile come from that perspective. I believe that my views on Chile are well informed, this is because I am bilingual and watch the Chilean news at least 3 days a week and when I travelled over I did talk to a fair number of people.
Regards from Sydney
@@pachigalia839 Okay, very interesting. Could you email me at contact@expatseverywhere.com - Josh
Culture can change as fast as social or economic change. Chronics from the XVIII century said the same about Germany. Never going to be (In equivalent term of that time) "civilized", same for Japanese in the XIX century, etc, etc
@@pippo1734 it can but it hasn't in Hispano-america. The increased presence of marxist ideology, poverty, violence, narcotrafic, and most importantly corruption make all countries from Mexico down the map self-deprecating. My view is that until we cease to exist as mankind, those countries will never change. In fact, I predict that in the following 10 years things are going to get really bad across the board. My opinion is based on statistics but also history, where every single emancipated country from Latin America has engaged in neverending social struggles. Chile in particular, from the early 1800s has had three civil wars, Marxism, dictatorship, and now unchecked narcotrafic (which always brings death with it)
me as an American: Chile looks too expensive gotta go check out Colombia lol
We just rain into a Venezuela guy today that lived and worked in Chile that says Chile is the best South American country to work and live by his estimation.
If you save and come to Chile you will not regret. Colombia it's like Mexico in terms of security and development.
Open and honest - fantastic interview, interviewer and of course interviewee 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good morning
Madam
Saw ur video on Chile Santiago..like u I travel a lot for last two decades. One of the best interviews on travel I have seen ..
Any suggestion on moving business to this part of the world
I am an Indian and Jordan based and working on plastic eradication’s Nd clean and green energy
Ur views ll be appreciated
Regards
Thanks
Thank you so much for the comment 🙂 Have you tried to contact Nina directly? Her info is the description section of the video. Let us know if that works.
Expats Everywhere
Thanks.. I did try to find out . But if u can help me it ll be great
Regards
Deepak Joshi To be honest, she’s going to have the best advice at the moment because she’s been boots on the ground so to speak. We used to serve the type of request that you’re asking for a fee as business consultants. Our business model has changed though and we’re just trying to connect people to those that can answer their questions.
Hello, if you are planning to move to our continent please observe the stability, culture, economics, climate and demographics of the country before leaving yours. Chile it's actually very stable in terms of economic growth but not stable in politics and social. I think in the main cities the quality of life it's almost the same that in Europe. I reccomend Santiago (Providencia) and Viña del Mar. In terms of green energy Chile has a lot of possibilities for implementation because we have a giant desert in the north and a lot of demand for solar panels for the private sector. The principal oil company it's investing in power grids to install in houses to prepare them for electromovility. There is a lot of possibilities but please save money and learn at least a little bit of the language before coming. You will be welcome.
Does she actually speak Spanish though? This would be a significant factor...
She works for British intelligence
I believe on 10:56 you wanted to say "Con cuotas" o "Sin cuotas" (It's actually "EN cuotas")-
It’s ‘cuotas’ not ‘cortas’ ✌🏻
thanks
Yeah thanks. I looked up cortas on Google Translate and it came out "shorts". I thought that was a little personal myself.
Except saying CHILI and not Chile it’s true
sin cuotas o con cuotas
Really 1m pesos is the minimum.
con CUOTAS o sin CUOTAS...
Can anyone clarify the difference between "immigrant" and "expat"??
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Immigrant is someone who is brown. An expat is someone who is white. At least that's what I understand...
Luciano Classical Guitar Hi. That’s an unfortunate misunderstanding of the semantical use of the words. Color or nationality should have little to do with it. Length of intended stay should have much more to do with it and some people throw in salary or lifestyle or even purpose for leaving their home country but again that becomes semantics.
immigrant is usually someone poor look to fit into a country and are with a family. an expat is someone who is usally single and has a lot of money to spend and expect to be a middle class or upper class person in the country they are going to. sadly, most expats going to chile will get a cultute shock when they find out they are not in colombia. but they are safer in chile than in colombia. however, chile is like usa. if you goto USA on vavation would an american treat you like a GOD? let you in there house and feed you and trust you?? no they will not. however, you can go to peru and they people will trust you and feed you and will probably let u live in there home no questions ask. but i would honetly say that the xpat is nuts to eat there food and the peru family are nutz to let a stranger in the home. all around u will niot see that in chile. unless the chilean eat human and want gey you nice and fat than eat u when u goto sleep. lmao
I would define expat as someone who is not competing for a job with the locals.
What kind of internet connection is offered in the city? I trade stocks all day and need to have un-interrupted internet connection, is that available?
We can certainly tell you it was spotty trying to do the interview with her. - Josh
Hello. You will have plenty of options living in the city and being specific in a house. Not every flat has the option to choose between operators. At the moment the most reliable one it's Movistar fiber (Spain, Telefónica). Next it's MundoPacífico also with fiber. Next it's VTR with Copper-Coaxial connections but very stable internet. And in the last place it's Entel and Wom. They are experienced in the mobile sector but slowly spreading into the home internet business. Poor coverage and service. Movistar has 1 Gigabit up/down internet like the US or South Korea.
You see to know a lot about Chile. Thank you for your extensive replies in the comments. How safe is the Bío-Bío region?
How safe is to live there?
In the best zones like vitacura, providencia, las condes is safer than others
it is really safe compared to the rest of latin america
Any city out of Santiago is very Safety
What do you think about Temuco and/or Concepcion?
I am from US and was in Chile about 4 months ago. I was in an area called Sante Elena which is out of city. Compared to US..first thing I noticed was grocery stores. I found a few that compared to a Kroger but if you mentioned Cosco or Sams Club….always excitement for wanting it. Surprised nothing similar exists.
As for safety…never had any problems but I saw security and police with the big guns everywhere. Grocery, gas, mall…
I was told they have highways for wealthier people and others for those who can’t pay the toll. This stems from car Jackings I guess. Anyone back that up or confirm? I did drive on the nice highway to Santiago but of course was paying it.
The reason why there are toll highways in some places in Chile is purely commercial. It is a way of getting done quick fast roads that are needed, without impacting fiscal budgets, and at the same time collect a profit from the users. The system works well for the ones who have the money to use them day after day, but if you are in a minimal salary then you are better off using public transport. Which, is is actually very good in Chile, and particularly good in Santiago.
Ocasionally you hear about a car jack, and they are always big news in the TV channels. In my opinion, they are not a common ocurrence, in statistical terms, but the amount of publicity they get is overwelming and frankly annoying, as they make people live in constant fear of being assaulted in their car. Chances are you will never experience that in your entire life in Chile.
@@Gerard-RedI wouldn’t say the entire life. Maybe if you always live in a nice area it will never happen hopefully, specially car jacks
@@PascualSmith Hay 6.000.000 de cars in Chile. The statistics show that the a car robery happens 10.300 times each year.
If you do the maths, The chances that an especific car get robed in a year is 1 in 582.
That means that if you happen to have a driving life of 65 year (from 16 to 81). Which is the life expectancy in Chile.
The real chances of getting your car stolen in your life time is aproximately 1 in 9.
But when, in a blue moon, that happens, the television news in Chile go crazy and spend the whole day talking about it, they do interviews, they show CCTV footage and every police have to say something, and the politicians too, so people live under the impression that is going to happen to them any minute. Honestly I things that sort of things needs to be tone down to the real dimension of the problem, instead of making a big issue out of it.
In the US there are 283 millions cars. And about just over a million get stolen each year. That means that for the average american driver the chances of getting their car stolen in a life time is 1 in 4,35.
So the posibilities of getting your car high jaked in Chile is in fact less than half as lower than in the US.
So make your own conclusions.
¿Is the fact that cars get stolen in Chile something that we need to highlight as a defect of the Chilean society?
Chile is really expensive
beauty
not really, would you move to NYC and try to rent in the most expensive area? no. why would you do that in chile? FYI chile has an upper class and middle class. move into your class or suffer.
I'm from Chile and move to Paris, what i mean about is the relation between the minimum wage and the basic costs of leaving. For most of the people isn't enough.
@@tanitaf1345 yeah but expats expect to get a well paying job like teaching english or working in a hotel or in computers. the expats going to chile are not typical immigrants. they are just bored and looking for adventure, they can pack up and go fast if things are not ok unlike real immigrants who cant do that. Paris france is very expensive and more expensive than chile. for an american (usa) it would be better to go to chile than paris. what do you do in paris to afford such an expensive city? its out of you are rich or you sell your body or you live in a room with 5 muslims in paris. i dont think an expat is down for that in paris. lol but im sure you are going to say you are rich in paris ;)
@@billmuno7191 Chilean healthcare is bad?
Posho problems.
Use Bitcoin and escape the credit trap, people in Chile rely extremely heavely on credit and trust the banking system, that will burn then really bad with the tiny exception of the ones using Bitcoin. The credit trap is happening world wide, however it is stronger in some counties like Chile, since the inflation is a tax that you are not legally allowed to escape which destroys saving s, retirements, inflates cost of living, etc.
Saving in bitcoin it's a nightmare. USDT it's better for savings
She doesn’t answer any questions. She gave no dollar amounts. All she said was it depends on where you live.
1 million pesos a month to live in Chile? a month?? That's like $47,000 USD. That is well over the average YEARLY INCOME for all of N. America. She either misspoke, or she lives like Jeff Bezos.
By my calculation, CLP 1m / month = USD 13000 / year at current exchange rates (or was USD 20000+ / year, going back a few years' rates), that's well below the US median income. And, from my experience living in Chile, 1m / month is what an experienced local professional can expect to earn (although many Chileans earn about half that amount), and yes, I'd consider it the minimum for living in Santiago with a standard of life that an expat would consider comfortable.
Wait...$1200 per month is 'expensive'? Compared to India, yes, but that seems like a screaming bargain to me. That's less than half the minimum wage here in California!
Depends on what you’re making, you know? She and her husband were making a more local wage.
@@ExpatsEverywhere yup i hear you. Seems that for someone from a wealthy country (UK, US, Canada, etc) that working and saving for a few years would enable someone to comfortably move to Chile. Especially if they could supplement those savings by taking local work.
@@danimal1538 Yes, we think in the case of the interviewee, she and her husband have moved around so much and lived abroad for so long they've gone between having bigger expat packages to sometimes taking opportunities that fall in line with a local salary.
Yes. It seems like the ideal situation would be working a well paid seasonal job or own a seasonal business. You could live well during your time off. I think you have to consider that she was probably just talking necessities like rent, utilities, and groceries. Any lifestyle would be additional. I wouldn't want to live anywhere on less than 2500 USD per month. I'm not getting on plane to fly somewhere and penny pinch.
The minimum wage three is like 240 dollars
*immigrant
I’m Chilean and won’t go back there: cost of living, not warm enough and the “elitist” society; the whiter you are, the higher up on the social echelon, and if you’re older than 45 try to get a job! Also, political instability with widespread riots due to above mentioned social and economic conditions.
Thanks for sharing. Sorry to hear about your struggles there.
Not warm enough? You’ve probably lived in the south of Chile
En conclusión solo vengan a vivir si tienen plata
Boy she doesn't have answers
She didnt talk about the cost of her apartment, didnt talk about her exact salary. Thumbs down
She doesn't have an exact salary because she's freelance and couldn't answer the question because it fluctuates too much. She also was asked to not share her husbands salary or apartment costs because they company wanted that to be private although we don't usually talk about the exact cost of apartments in our interviews because it can vary so much from person to person. In general, people will give ranges. A 1 br place in the city center ranges from 300k to 420k pesos but you can find cheaper and more luxurious. A 3 br in the city would range from 500k to 800k.
Thanks for the comment.
I can help here:
Living in a 3 bedrooms apartment in Las Condes, which is most likely the size she needs, is at least $550.000 monthly in rent, plus "gastos comunes" (for the building community) in the range of $150.000 to $300.000.-
But she mentioned private health care, so I think she would go for a more expensive life style, so let's rise that monthly rent to $800.000 a month.
Plus private schools for at least 2 kids ($400.000 each, plus paying for their food, transport, uniforms, etc).
She didn't mention having a cleaner (nana), so that's one expense they're not covering.
The thing is, if you're renting, you must make at least 3 times the rent for landlords to accept you, more like 4 times.
And 4 times is the amount necessary for a mortgage. Or in other words: you cannot own a property if the mortgage credit is more than 25% of your monthly income.
So, rent * 3x = income to rent.
Rent * 4x = you better be buying.
My guess is they make more or less $4.000.000 a month. And that here makes you part of the higher middle class.
If I get rich in Cryptocurrency I will probably move to Chile. 🇨🇱 I think for now , I should settle for Paraguay. 🇵🇾 Anyone’s thoughts! 💭
All the best and we hope you weren't in FTX.
@@ExpatsEverywhere No I wasn’t.
"How much you need to xxx" - it depends. "Ok, then how much one can earn?" - it depends... Jeeeezzz such an uninformative interview 😁
During the Military Government , Chile was The Safest - Cleanest - Disciplined country in Latin America.
Wtf are you talking about?did you really say that chile was the safest during a genocidal regime?
Expat? Immigrant for English people
No, expat as in temporary or short-term move and immigrant as in permanent or long-term move in mind.
@@ExpatsEverywhere immigrants can be short term and ex pats can be long term. Bring the Settler label again. Immigrants have a bad connotation and expats too full of themselves
@@carlasousa8623 exactly there are foreigners in who've been living in Mexico 10+ years still calling themselves expat
Chilean expat living in London, UK. You’re spot on, you even look like an attractive Chilean yummy mummy!!
Seriously, bang on assessment of my country as it continues to go to the dogs....
Oh wow! 😁
If a chilena would say whats she said, others chilenas would say, she is a comunista 😂😂😂.
No lady it is not a called a piso it is a peso
For someone who runs an Expat channel she seems extremely out of touch. Who is the intended audience? What age? Single or married? Alone or with children? Every answer was, "It depends." Why not say, "For a single person in their 20's, you could rent a safe place for xxx CLP. Groceries cost around xxx CLP. Electricity, water, internet, and cell service are around xxx CLP." She also made it sound like it was very expensive to live in Chile, when in fact the cost of living is less than about ⅔ of the other countries. India is one of the cheapest places to live, so why use that as a comparison? Her answers were not helpful and her personality rubbed me the wrong way. I will look elsewhere for info on life in Chile.
It all goes into your personal perspective, and this video is another clear ex., Nina has the luxury of a steady household income provided by the spouse. The rest of the interview is generic to any third world country.
Chile has to implode economically. The internal debt is horrendous. People make on average to little money. Most people are poor but pretend to be middle class. The cost of living to earnings is totally out of balance. The internal debt is 311% of GDP. A giant crisis waiting to happen. The reason Chile is like it is economically is neoliberalism. Chile was the first country in the world which was exposed to this doctrine.
Very interesting. Are you Chilean or living there right now?
All false. Chile has one of the lowest debt to GDP in the world (below 30%). Chile has the highest minimum wage in all of Latin America. It is by far the most advanced and modern country in Latin America. Right now Chile is ahead of the USA and every EU country in percentage of population being vaccinated for Covid 19! I recommend everyone to visit Chile then Venezuela (the country with the largest oil reserves in the world) to see the difference between neoliberalism and Socialism.
@@islandlife6591 Being vaccinated against a cold is not a thing to brag about. Is Chile very commy about the Corna Virus? Are they forced to wear masks?
@@islandlife6591 There is no difference. They are based on "spending other people's money" and no one want to pay for their propaganda...hence the joke: ..
A bar full of socialists were all buying each other drinks. Drinks are on the house! At the end of the night. "Ok who is going to pay the bill? Not me, not me either!" as they all ran out..
@@ExpatsEverywhere I’m chilean and what this guy wrote is all wrong, Chile has a really nice economic situation
Thanks for sharing! South America in general, like so many other places, just seems to be disintegrating, and getting worse and worse. I'm staying in the good ole US 🇺🇲 👍
You're welcome. Thank you for sharing your take on it, Bert.
Bruh shut up
I moved from chile to the US. Gotta say health care here sucks compared to Chile. I have insurance but it works like the public system in Chile though you are paying as private. If my husband knew Spanish we would consider moving back just for my health.
this lady want to live rich in chile. that about someone who lives in beverly hills. its like she wants to goto england and send her kids to a rich privatre school and live in the best area. so dont listen to this lady
why are you so negative, so arrogant? do you know her real financial status? that's a woman who's seen most of the world, you know? i know (lived, worked, visited) most of the countries she's lived in the past, so i understand what she's talking about. i think you're the one who's pretending to be super rich. get a life instead of putting people down for their honest answers.
That's how simply standards of living are different and averages are
@@tajmajal4197 huh??? she seen most of the world? and she wants to live in a rich area where ever she live? she is rich. whats the problem???? she is saying chile is more expensive that england and spain? lmao. is she comparing a poor city in spain to a rich area in chile? this lady is FOS!
@@elkyubi4281 this is silly. she is comparing india to chile lmao. india is like extreme poverty in the streets. if this lady lived in India she lives in area away from 99% of indian population. just by the way she talks i can tell she lives in a fantasy world
Expat…. You mean immigrant?
Chile is good if you live in las condes, vitacura, la dehesa (you need a lot of money)....the rest of chile is a crap.
Thanks for the comment and sharing your insight.
seems you don't know much as the neighbourhoods mentioned are only in one part of Santiago... there is much more and many more cities that clearly you are ignorant of... better be respectful and share your view in a decent manner, your biased view cannot reflect the reality of a country.
yes, don`t come DONT COME.
@@paulavergara4433 lol
The south of Chile is nice, the rest of it sucks. Argentina has better scenery, food and people so there really is no point in visiting Chile.
Does Argentina really have better scenery than Chile? I haven’t been to both countries, but it seems that Argentina is mostly flat. There are more mountains towards the Andes, so San Carlos de Bariloche, Mendoza maybe. And Iguazu falls is probably also quite nice. However, I think Chile has a better scenery overall, from what I’ve researched
@@user-fw2qk4rf6i There won't be much in it, I would plump for Argentina due to the sheer scale of the place and Iguazu Falls which is a spectacular site.
@@pornupaboum3459All people have different opinions but that does not make you anyone to say if a country is beautiful or not since that is subjective, I hope you understand that, greetings.
Expat means a white living outside of their own country. Any skin color, you're an immigrant, not an expat.
Check out our channel and you'll see that's not the case. We have a Thai girl living in South Korea. Another Thai girl living in Canada. A Filipina living in Singapore. An African-American living in Saudi. An African-American living in Singapore. We've just scheduled and interview with a Kenyan living in Doha.
@Anthony Jackson there's some truth to that for sure. They don't intend to be citizens because that might mean that they're moving with the long term in mind and therefor, they would be immigrants. It doesn't mean that expats don't want to assimilate to their new host country while there although/unfortunately many don't. Some do.
@Danny Archer You're right. We're trying to less than less. We're getting more and more of these kinds of comments as we grow and it's becoming increasingly less valuable to our time to respond to these. We try to respond to the positive stuff or the ones that make valid points like Anthony Jackson. - Josh
Why are groups of people termed as " expats " and others are " migrants " 😂😂
Tomato tomato.
Expats import money, migrants export money.
Annoying that she was always looking up and almost never looking onto the camera.
Expat = inmigrant
She’s scared of credit cards?
You talk a lot and do not say much, OF course depend on the type of living spaces but can you at least mention a $ figure... Can you collect your pensions, Social Security, Stocks... over there?
EXPAT means..INMIGRANT! so you are an inmigrant in Chile. why so afraid of this word?
That's easy Expat, because inmigrant isn't the word (you mean). Thanks for watching and commenting though.
@@ExpatsEverywhere you are an inmigrant, end of the story.
@@dasbose4962 inmigrant means to move to another part of the same region or country.
This is wrong, 'immigrant' implies some sort of permanence, while 'expat' implies the nature of your stay in the country in temporary. Are you a native English speaker?
Bc white people