EDIT: Just watched further in the video. Yup, thats exactly what you can do with that adapter board with the antenna size differs from the wifi module. I have that exact same wifi adapter board. The board comes with some small antenna wires that you connect to the new wifi card and the adapter board. The adapter board then has the larger antenna connector ports. You dont need to swap any of those connectors
Usually underclocking the Vcore on laptops actually works and helps, as heat is the biggest challenge. My last 3 laptops with an Intel i7s (HP + 4770, Clevo + 7770 and MSI + 12700) would be / are stable with .08v to .12v undervolts. Meaning thermo-throttling less at full/turbo speeds and more silent too (lowers idle temp too with about 10C !). But ... a 1.225 Vcore for a C2D seems to be very spot on spec and not too high. To get a sweet spot, try like the 16x with 1.175v and see how low Vcore you can get the OC whilst keeping it stable. If it goes unstable, go back like 2 notches as a buffer. Then try the 17x, possibly undervolting it a bit less. I recall my desktop C2D Q6600 doing like 3.43GHz on 1.28v 24/7, but only needing 1.225v for 3.0GHz. Obviously there are a lot of factors, but this gen usually doesn't need much Vcore under 3GHz. For newer gen CPUs, ThrottleStop offers more useful settings, but not for the C2D gen iirc. Perhaps Intel XTU lets you mess with 'FSB" speeds and/or additional settings, although I doubt it.
@@Wasmachineman ah I just went back and watched it. You are correct, he is only adjusting the multiplayer so memory frequency is likely staying the same.
@Epictronics1 On mine it was, I worked for IBM at the time I could have just go a new one but I was travelling a lot so I drilled a hole in the center of the plastic hub and put a few drops of genetic oil in it, crazy behaviour :). But I loved that machine so much, a true champion laptop.
@@deviljelly3 I'll tell you my 'secret' computer fan bearing oil. DOT5 silicone brake fluid. Another silicone fluid that works is fuser oil from older photocopies and laser printers. They lubricate enough, withstand high temperatures, have essentially zero volatile organic compounds so they never dry up. A bottle of silicone brake fluid is around 57 lifetimes supply for lubing noisy fan bearings.
this laptop is still pretty useful in 2024, I'd gladly use it as a school computer with microsoft 365 and a web browser, after all that's what IBMs were made for. good vid.
the 1600x1200 displays on one of these are nice, though the thinkpad R50p with 2048x1536 display is peak for productivity (although it's bulkier and not nearly as well made as the T60)
Actually, IBM and Lenovo have always been very supportive of Linux and this Thinkpad (and many others) run that very well also - so no need for your bloated and privacy-hating Microsoft rubbish to touch them.
Beautiful machine. A company I worked for provided me one back then and I stayed on it as long as I could. I wish any modern laptop had a keyboard that good with a pointing stick.
I had a 17 year old ThinkPad T60 laptop of my own but I sold it 6 months ago. I was given two of them for free. Both were BIOS locked and one stopped POSTing within a few minutes of me using it (they had both sat for years. I assume it was yet another victim of Bumpgate). Anyway, I was able to install a Core 2 Duo T7200 in mine and 4GB RAM, all of which was recognised by the OS. It ran MX Linux well and I actually used it as an email machine for a little while. I sat in a coffee shop with it plugged in to the wall because it didn't have a battery. Fond memories!
I never had a T60 but I did have an R60 and man did I love that little laptop.I ran "Isaac Benjamin Maxwell" as I called him from September 2006 until he died in August 2011. Though after an accident with a hot pot of tea in 2010 he spent the last year of his life connected to my TV in the living room streaming media over the network from the gaming desktop "Dimitri" I built in 2008 (Which ran from 2008 to 2020)
A rather more modern machine than you usually cover. I bought a T60 off eBay for $144 in 2018. It has a T7300. Upgraded from 2GB to 4GB RAM and replaced the HDD with a 480GB SSD and installed Windows 7 and it's been running that since. I don't actually use it much, but I have some of the annoying VPN software we need for connecting to some of our customer sites and use it for that specifically so I don't have to install it on my more frequently used machines.
@@Epictronics1 Did you try the Lenovo System Update software once you got WIndows installed? Useful for letting it get the right drivers and other stuff and installing it for you. While checking for files for my W520, I noticed they recently updated the version for this file "system_update_5.08.03.59". In the info it says "Compatible Devices" and "All Thinkpad".
Wow... a really great video. Also the last one from the Thinkpad T60. I also have a T60 that still works well. I'm a big fan of the keyboard. So comfortable to type on. Do you have a list of all the components you used in this and the last video from the T60? Maybe also a link from the bios...That would be nice. Thank you in advance.
Thanks. I don't have a list, but everything I used is mentioned in the videos. Unfortunately, you will need to do some reading before flashing the BIOS. There are different versions for different TPs. You could potentially brick the TP if you use the wrong flash!
That T60(p) is a real classic. I still have one with a T7200. A Linux distro seems like a nice, painless way to keep it usable, although that LTS Windows is a fun idea as well.
Your T60 is just like my X61 is, it has both Lenovo and IBM Branding on it. I still say these were techically the last IBM Thinkpads because I believe like you said, they were designed by IBM but were sold off to Lenovo and these were still in production (plus Lenovo I believe had rights to use the IBM logo on some products for some time after the sale on certain models like this one).
This makes me want to dust off the old ThinkPad A20 my mother in law gave me. She was a chemistry teacher at Pennsbury High back a bunch of years ago, she's long retired now, but they let her keep her ThinkPad. It's a LOVELY mahcine. (I'm pretty sure the model is A20, it is definitely not as new as this one, but looks very similar)
Love to see a nice vid about these. I've used my Frankenpad many years without issues, it was only 2023 when I switched to another (still old) Thinkpad. My Franki looked like this: T60 15" chassis and IPS screen (the LGP made SXGA+, not UXGA (those are weaker in contrast ratio), T61 mobo with Intel GPU (never dies unlike nvidia), C2D X9000 unlocked CPU and 2x4GB DDR2 +512GB SSD. X9000 OC'd to 3.4 GHz easily under a similar PC tower cooler :D The machine itself was usable with it being OC'd to 3.2 GHz, but in summer days I ran it 3.0GHz. TPFC is recommended, since it can make the fan run at its max, since the factory setting prefers silence, but I prefer good cooling. I sold that machine but I miss it so recently acquired another T60, which I use for the vibes occasionally. I have to say though, the 14" models, despite having poor screens, have a much nicer sturdiness feeling since their lid is made of Al-Mg alloy while the 15" models are plastic.
You don't need to get an adapter to have an Intel AX210 chipset card on mini PCIe. You can get the cards direct as Mini PCIe form factor. The mpe-axe3000h is an example of such card and won't have issues with the antennas.
@@Epictronics1 I got one and Ive tried it in a load of computers. From a Dell Mini 9 from 2008 to a Lenovo IdeaPad 100 from 2016. Even a couple desktop motherboards like the asrock Z97E-ITX from 2013 and they were all able to pull my 300mbit of internet down.
Note, these are "unofficial" as they're basically the M.2 1216 variant of the card soldered to an adapter PCB Some may have the 2nd antenna connection go nowhere, it's worth popping off the cover to take a peek if you do get one
I side-stepped the wifi limitation on my Tecra A8 by using a usb plug-in wifi adapter that sits in a cradle and has a long cable which sits on my desk. This gives me 802.11n which is more than good enough as my net speed is 50Mbit/sec and would not exceed 802.11n anyway. This is something that a lot of people don't understand. I picked up a DLink Wireless N-150 Bridge for $10 new in box some years ago that is 3X faster than my net connection. Most likely the seller thought it was useless (there are A LOT of clueless PC users) but in reality the wireless bridge can take a connection +50Mb/s faster than what is available in this country (max available is 100 but very expensive) and still work at max speed. For the rare times I need to take this laptop somewhere else the built in 802.11g is fine, and actually 802.11g is 54Mbits/sec which is still faster than my net connection anyway hehe!
For additional cooling buy some thin thermal pads in size 200mm x 100mm sheets and cut to size. These are available in 0.5mm, 1mm, 1.5mm, 2mm, 2.5mm, 3mm etc so just get whatever thickness is required or use several sheets to take up any air gaps between the heatsink and keyboard (and other parts) so that more of the laptop is acting as a heatsink. I suppose you could also put the thermal pads on the bottom side of the motherboard or anywhere else to draw heat off the board onto the pads and pc case.
A cooler from a W500 will give you a major increase in cooling. You might have to file the big metal plate down slightly to make it fit. It's totally worth it. I had one on my T60 back in the day. Really helped with that ATI video chip.
My thought: "I'm sure there are pigtail adapters for this. Or just swap the antenna wires." Epictronics: "Let's make a Frankenstein's Monster!" haha... Apparently something can be both crazy impressive AND a face palm. :-D Uh... well done ... I think? lol
I have three Thinkpad Z61p which are almost 100% identical to the T60p. Absolutely fantastic model and one I still use in 2024 for serious tasks, and have done since 2012 when I got them. Why own three? Love at first sight with the first and got the rest as spares, even though all three are fully working. I upgraded them with T7600 CPU, SSD drives, 3GB RAM, Broadcom video decoding card, USB 3.0 via the ExpressCard port and of course docking stations. I even got the one with the desktop PCIe GPU card port, but I never managed to make it work. Might be due to having the Lenovo variant rather than the original IBM. I agree about the comparison with the T43 series as I own a T43p, and although they are excellent they are nowhere near as capable. They do have most of the features though including the ExpressCard port.
You mean the Advanced Dock? My dock is the newer one without IBM logo and it works with both of my T60's. You just have to change the default video output in BIOS to external card but even then it might not always use the external card in which case I usually shut down the laptop, reconnect and boot again
@@Pasi123 I will give it a few more goes then. I bought two cheap old cards to try with it at the time in 2013; an Geforce GT-610 I think and an ATi card of similar age and spec.
So I commend you for your work on making a newer WiFi card work, however there actually exists a WiFi 6 card that not only is mPCIe instead of M.2 A+E, but is also equipped with the older larger WiFi NGFF antenna connectors. I bought one for use in my 2007 Dell Precision M6300 and it works perfectly without issue. I'm in the USA so not sure if it's simply not available in your country but yeah... Just in case: MPE-AX3000H for the WiFi card. As far as the cooling solution goes, what's probably the easiest is to cut the shell of the Thinkpad, thermal-adhesive some extensions to the copper heatpipes (either by salvaging them off of another cooler or buying them online), connecting them to a beefier laptop heat exchanger and fan, then 3D-printing an extension to the housing to accomodate that. Doing so would also give you the option of fitting the keyboard from the bigger-brother with the numpad, fitting a bigger battery (for more than 80 minutes of battery life), and some other accessories ;) Sweet video! I have also maxed out my 2007 daily driver with 8GB of DDR2 800 RAM, a beefier Core 2 Duo T7600, the Quadro FX1600m (the higher spec GPUs are pretty much all dead these days and overheated from the factory so this is the GPU option that makes the most sense), WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.0, USB 3.0 (via an ExpressCard expansion card), an SSD, and swapping the CD-ROM for a DVD burner. I love this machine very much :D
Was surprised to see you re-soldering wifi connectors. Congrats to the new build! What about sleep issue, is it resolved, and wifi speed, does it make your machine more usable in terms of web browsing?
I haven't tested yet! However, I have done some tests with the original cooling. It will run stable up to 2.8GHz @2.7v. I'm going to order a different cooler next and do some more tests!
Can't say I quite understand the CPU effort but kudos on swapping out the wifi card. Thankfully Lenovo stopped doing the whitelisting thing some 10 years ago... though now most of their laptops the wifi module isn't swappable anymore since the last year or two...
10:17 Tape is placed over parts with holes such as threaded screw mounts or piezo beepers or other delicate parts like usb-c connectors in manufacturing so that the hole does not get solder, flux residue or solvents from pcb washing or whatever on/in it that could cause it the become unusable. After manufacturing tape does nothing so can be removed. This is the same reason why clear plastic is placed over delicate parts like screens or exterior shiny plastic, to stop damage/scratches in manufacturing so that the product is presented fresh and new in the box.
LTT has proper thermal pads in store, those blue ones are thermal insulators when it comes to transferring heat from a GPU, even if thin and a small GPU.
I wonder if there is a solution to run heatpipes out the back, so that that gynormous cooler can do its work without obstructing the view (and keyboard)??
It seems like NOTHING today that really should come with, NEVER comes with instructions. At least you got to UP your micro-soldering skills AND problem solved the issue. Nice job either way!
Make a box, make ventilation and put fans then connect the screen on top of the box. done now its a partially portable laptop. great work though that must have been difficult.
How to ruin an ax210 wifi6 instead of using the UFL cables that default fenvi converters, good video, I felt many emotions, from curiosity, anger, pain and I think that finally satisfaction
i saw that the screen of your Thinkpad started with a pink hue a few times. This means the CCFL tube in the display is tired, and on its way out. Try to find a replacement as soon as possible.
@@Epictronics1 I wouldn't worry about it. My Tecra A8 has the same issue for ~5 years and still works great. It only does that when it is off, but once it powers up it will come good after 2 seconds. Those Lenovo laptops are common as dirt so if it does go bad just buy another ccfl or the little board that drives it.
Just for your information... Some nice vendors had taken Intel's AX200 and similar wifi chipset and put it on a mini PCIe adapter. No need for adapter and at a very reasonable price. I found mine on Amazon. I feel we need to give companies like this some business, as we need to give them incentive to make strange shit that we need.
I'm only 11mins into the video but I do remember trying to use that WWAN port for other cards before, and it lacks full USB functionality if I recall. So I ended up removing the WiFi card instead and then using an external USB WiFi dongle in one of the USB ports.
I wonder which power brick you are using. I recall having a smaller one for travel and a big one that would power the dock and accessories as well as charge faster. Maybe the brickmaxxing is the answer to a stable overclock?
The dell counterparts had multi-bays that supported floppies for longer - you can put a floppy multi-bay as new models as the Latitude D530, D630, D830 etc which which has one gen newer chipset and cpu socket than the t60 (and thus can access full 4 gb, and I think in theory up to 8gb ram if you want to pay out your ass for some 4gb ddr2 SODIMMS) The T7600G seems a bit pointless in the M1710, I have the Precision M90 - which is basically the workstation version and it coudln't really cool the normal T7600 + quadro FX3500M (aka GTX 7950M - which tends to die due to bumpgate) properly as is.
Couple thoughts a) I'm not sure improved cooling is possible in the confines of a laptop. Poor cooling is part & parcel of that form factor - you may need to abandon your dreams of massive overclocking. Also, such overclocking would drastically impact what little battery life the machine still has b) I don't think 3.25GB is a chipset limitation - that's a 32-bit Windows limitation. Is Windows actually seeing all 4GB of RAM? c) I'm surprised you didn't get a performance improvement just from going to two identical sticks of RAM - dual-channel is important! d) Go ahead and rip out your old Bluetooth module - the Intel Wifi card should have it's own integrated Bluetooth radio?
No. 3.2xGB is a limitation of this era of PCs and chipset. Do some research and you'll see it's a hardware limitation that exists even with x64. For starters, the 2 slots can only take 2GB max each, 4GB limit and Windows only sees 3.24GB even though the CPU is 64-bit and the Windows is 64-bit. You should get some old PCs and do some of your own testing before stating untruths that are well documented on the net.
I know it's just temporary for the jokes but you shouldn't put thermal paste and cooling on the hot part of the heat pipes! They're meant to be cold on one side and hot on the other, if you add additional cooling directly to the contact area of the CPU you might damage them.
I'd like to find a way to update the TPM firmware in a Dell Latitude E6530. It's 1.2 and for some reason Dell doesn't have a 2.0 update for what was one of their top line flagship business laptops, yet they have updates for lesser contemporaries. My E6530 has i7 CPU, 16 gig RAM, 1080p, nVidia GPU, and a BD-RE drive. What's crazy is Dell would allow this same laptop to be built with an i5 or even i3, no nVidia GPU, and a 1366x768 display. From turd to terrific, this was the Burger King "Have it Your Way" of laptops. One could even order it with every hotted up option, and still get the 1366x786 display if you really wanted it for some insane reason.
@@Epictronics1 Don't do it. W11 will make that PC unusable. If I were you I would take it back to W7 like I did on my Tecra A8 which runs like a dream. Plus no updates to bog it down hehe! I know what all the clueless noobs will be saying, my pc is going to get hacked because W7 is unsupported. That's fine by me I am an extreme power user i don't want support or updates. All I can say is lol, go ahead make my day, my security here will just laugh at any of those hacking attempts ;-)
Even better than windows 7 is windows 8 (the RTM version, not 8.1). It's insane how fast it is with less processes running vs win7, less ram usage and better memory management. You can use windows 7 explorer on windows 8.0 (there's a project for that) and get rid of the crappy metro interface but still have the improved kernel and performance that comes with win8
I have a similar machine from that time, a Dell XPS M1210. I've sort of maxed out the upgrades (save for the CPU, a T7200) with dual 2GB modules. Of course, only up to 3.25GB can be used. Epictronics, do you have working bluetooth out of that AX210 card? I've also upgraded the wifi card but instead of using an m.2 carrier board (as I suspect that would not fit my chasis), I opted for a cheap half size mini pci-e card based on the 8265 chip. WiFi is working like a charm, however bluetooth doesn't. The bluetooth "device" is not detected in neither Windows nor Linux and I'm unsure if that's because USB is not wired to my mini-pcie slots or because of a BIOS thing. Note that bluetooth does work when that card is inserted in a more modern laptop (such as the XPS Studio 13).
A C2D is not really enough for W10. Yes it runs but it's not an enjoyable experience. I'm still running a Toshiba Tecra A8 (C2D T7200) plugged into a docking station as my main laptop that I use to do everything (including the board mods I did for you). Mainly because I like the proper keyboard on this compared to the flat 1mm travel keyboards of modern laptops. Of course this is not running W10. I have done a bunch of tweaks to the OS and with 2-way firewall and it's locked up rock solid with W7 and everything works perfect and quickly. The great thing is Chrome refuses to update which is really really nice now so I don't get annoying update requests. I'm still running W7SP2. If it works don't fix (or upgrade) it ;-) A few years ago I also picked up a more recent top-of-the-line Toshiba Portege Z30T-C (I7 6600U, retail $3700 with all options as standard inclusions on this model) with a docking station but I rarely use it as it's got the flat keyboard. Some years ago I had W11 on it (developer version) and it booted in 4 seconds but as updates were done over the 2 years I used it, the laptop got slower and slower. I eventually removed it and put W7 on it and it's super fast. But the Tecra A8 isn't going to last forever so one of these days I'm going to have to migrate to it. Yeah, one of these days.... heheh!
Is there a way to run W7 online securely? I forgot to mention it in the video. The T60 has an amazing keyboard too compared to my modern laptops. The keyboard alone is worth the "downgrade"
@@Epictronics1 What do you mean by 'securely'? Is there some hacker out to get you and you think there's some security issue that could affect you? Most if not all of the 'security' is pure bs just to sell more updates which will eventually cause the PC to get bogged down so far that the user buys a new PC. That means more money for M$. Updates are not required and are only done to keep the programmers busy while M$ develops the next big thing, be it another Windows or whatever. Nothing has changed, Windows is the same as it was in 2015 or later or earlier. W7 runs fine as-is. Security is the responsibility of the user. My current PC is this Tecra A8 running W7 and I have no issues....
@@Epictronics1 Forget about xp or earlier, no browser I know of that can run on xp or w98 can correctly support latest internet standards and security protocols like https. But with W7 or W8 and last supported version of Chrome or Firefox it works fine. You don't need anything special. working browser for https and latest service pack for the windows version and a two-way firewall software like 'simplewall'.
You will probably gain 100mhz with a 100mv increase. There's a sweet spot in the CPU voltage / frequency curve and 1.5v is well outside it for core2duo. Ideally keep the voltages below 1.35v for 24/7 operation. For benchmarks feel free to go to 1.5v, but that's it! Go back to safe levels. The CPU power draw at 1.5v might also trigger the over current protection. For the "lags" that you are feeling, make sure you are using GPU drivers that can do hardware acceleration and not the built in "windows standard display adapter" driver. Probably windows 7 is the maximum that you can get before losing that feature
Hey, I'm trying to upgrade my T60 just like you. Can you send a link to the bios upgrade? I would like to remove the restrictions on the wifi card as well.😊
Unfortunately, It's not quite that easy. You need to do some reading and find the BIOS patch that works with your machine. There are at least two different patches. The wrong patch might brick your IBM
@@Epictronics1 I have the IBM T60 with the T7600 upgrade and the ati Radeon x1300 gpu. It has the 4:3 aspect ratio and the higher resolution display. Does that help narrow it down?
@@Epictronics1 true, but with the larger size connector next to them and the cables included it seems silly. still a nice video, hope to see more of the overclocking :)
Lol i also made crazy upgrades to similiar system. For my ASUS A9Rp i bought T7600 then i discovered a G model exists... Bought the fastest ram on planet(hopefully)from hyper x. got a new old stock 7200rpm 80 HDD for the acoustics . Sadly i cant change the GPU so i OCd it to the moon and got some first places on HWBOT :D.
I just checked Ebay UK sold prices and last one of nine sold for £93 a week ago from a China seller. Did you upgrade the cooling heatsink or just use stock?
@@EgoShredder Chceck HWBOT site then browse Hadrware/Videocards/ATI/Xpress Series/RC410M and 3DMark2000 score, there is a photo. CPU has glued heatsink(MX-4) on top and GPU uses liquid metal and is protected with nail color :P so you know its good!
Has anybody a overview over retro computers that are available as soldering kits? I'm looking for this or similar projects to improve soldering skills.
i have a used t410 2010 lenovo thinkpad laptop is there a way that i can get the iso version of the t410 2013 bios update iso file which allowing me to install newer non-lenovo reliable good quality battery and wifi cards and under/overclock ram & the i5 cpu + i'm a ubuntu linux user.
Does it work with compaq presario c700 c751nr with the limited ram below 4 gb so I have to update and overclock bios to upgrade to 8 gb ram to upgrade to windows 11
lol I thought WIFI cards were all basically the same at least the connection port and NVME was derrived from them. I was surprised to see it's smaller. and even the antenna. lol
Damn. Bought the T7600G and it does not work with any of my many laptops. Now when i google problems with that CPU there are many results of incompatibility....
Try unchecking the "disable turbo" box and rerun all tests again... TS can and will prevent turbo defaults from bios (Intel speedstep).. overclocking also involves going into FIVR and adjusting the voltages, not only for the CPU but everything else. On another note; has anyone come across a modded bios for a dell latitude 3350?... mine has definitely been modified heavily in terms of cooling.. its OC ready.
Hand soldering UFL connectors without a scope is bloody difficult because they are tiny, good job on that repair 😀
Thanks :)
@@Epictronics1 i need a help about my thinkpad T410 2013 bios update iso file please.
2:42 This BIOS flash tool supports machines from 1951. I always wanted to update my grandpa's toaster and hand drill, now we have the tool 👍
EDIT: Just watched further in the video. Yup, thats exactly what you can do with that adapter board with the antenna size differs from the wifi module.
I have that exact same wifi adapter board. The board comes with some small antenna wires that you connect to the new wifi card and the adapter board. The adapter board then has the larger antenna connector ports. You dont need to swap any of those connectors
I had to learn the hard way :D
@@Epictronics1 At least all the damping you would have had on those wires and connectors is now on those solder joints ;)
Usually underclocking the Vcore on laptops actually works and helps, as heat is the biggest challenge.
My last 3 laptops with an Intel i7s (HP + 4770, Clevo + 7770 and MSI + 12700) would be / are stable with .08v to .12v undervolts. Meaning thermo-throttling less at full/turbo speeds and more silent too (lowers idle temp too with about 10C !).
But ... a 1.225 Vcore for a C2D seems to be very spot on spec and not too high. To get a sweet spot, try like the 16x with 1.175v and see how low Vcore you can get the OC whilst keeping it stable. If it goes unstable, go back like 2 notches as a buffer. Then try the 17x, possibly undervolting it a bit less.
I recall my desktop C2D Q6600 doing like 3.43GHz on 1.28v 24/7, but only needing 1.225v for 3.0GHz. Obviously there are a lot of factors, but this gen usually doesn't need much Vcore under 3GHz.
For newer gen CPUs, ThrottleStop offers more useful settings, but not for the C2D gen iirc. Perhaps Intel XTU lets you mess with 'FSB" speeds and/or additional settings, although I doubt it.
Don't forget to beef up your memory with OC level SODIMM. Increasing your Front Side Bus frequency also increases the memory's frequency.
Except he hasn't OCed the FSB.
@@Wasmachineman ah I just went back and watched it. You are correct, he is only adjusting the multiplayer so memory frequency is likely staying the same.
Oh, that wasn't just a silly thumbnail! Lmao
This channel is for real! :)
Yep, it's real, yet it reached Action Retro curse level.
@@BilisNegra a totally normal T60p!
@@M8R3rojcq Indeed, and we want to watch It running our favorite operating system, BeOS!
Christ, are you stalking me? The hours I spent inside my T60p trying to fix a bad fan bearing. This video is heaven and hell for me 😅
I thought bad fan bearing was a T43 thing? Did bad bearings plague the T60 too?
@Epictronics1 On mine it was, I worked for IBM at the time I could have just go a new one but I was travelling a lot so I drilled a hole in the center of the plastic hub and put a few drops of genetic oil in it, crazy behaviour :). But I loved that machine so much, a true champion laptop.
@@deviljelly3 It truly is! I'm going to enjoy this T60 for many more years!
My T60 also has bad fan bearing. I bought the laptop used in 2013 and it didn't have problems with the bearing until 2018
@@deviljelly3 I'll tell you my 'secret' computer fan bearing oil. DOT5 silicone brake fluid. Another silicone fluid that works is fuser oil from older photocopies and laser printers. They lubricate enough, withstand high temperatures, have essentially zero volatile organic compounds so they never dry up.
A bottle of silicone brake fluid is around 57 lifetimes supply for lubing noisy fan bearings.
I worked IT for a fortune 50 company back when these were new and I deployed hundreds of these things and probably repaired just as many.
Working IN IT.
this laptop is still pretty useful in 2024, I'd gladly use it as a school computer with microsoft 365 and a web browser, after all that's what IBMs were made for. good vid.
Thanks!
the 1600x1200 displays on one of these are nice, though the thinkpad R50p with 2048x1536 display is peak for productivity (although it's bulkier and not nearly as well made as the T60)
Actually, IBM and Lenovo have always been very supportive of Linux and this Thinkpad (and many others) run that very well also - so no need for your bloated and privacy-hating Microsoft rubbish to touch them.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 😁
Beautiful machine. A company I worked for provided me one back then and I stayed on it as long as I could. I wish any modern laptop had a keyboard that good with a pointing stick.
True. The keyboard on the T60 is great!
I had a 17 year old ThinkPad T60 laptop of my own but I sold it 6 months ago. I was given two of them for free. Both were BIOS locked and one stopped POSTing within a few minutes of me using it (they had both sat for years. I assume it was yet another victim of Bumpgate). Anyway, I was able to install a Core 2 Duo T7200 in mine and 4GB RAM, all of which was recognised by the OS. It ran MX Linux well and I actually used it as an email machine for a little while. I sat in a coffee shop with it plugged in to the wall because it didn't have a battery. Fond memories!
I never had a T60 but I did have an R60 and man did I love that little laptop.I ran "Isaac Benjamin Maxwell" as I called him from September 2006 until he died in August 2011. Though after an accident with a hot pot of tea in 2010 he spent the last year of his life connected to my TV in the living room streaming media over the network from the gaming desktop "Dimitri" I built in 2008 (Which ran from 2008 to 2020)
Tony359’s advanced cooling solution would have allowed x25! 😅 from 13 subs to now! Congrats!🥂
Haha, I may give it a try :D Thanks!
This video is pretty much insane. How would I ever know this existed?
I love the ThinkPad community making mods for stuff.
A rather more modern machine than you usually cover. I bought a T60 off eBay for $144 in 2018. It has a T7300. Upgraded from 2GB to 4GB RAM and replaced the HDD with a 480GB SSD and installed Windows 7 and it's been running that since. I don't actually use it much, but I have some of the annoying VPN software we need for connecting to some of our customer sites and use it for that specifically so I don't have to install it on my more frequently used machines.
I imagine it's quite snappy with Win7! Too bad we can't get security updates with anything older than this version of W10
@@Epictronics1 Did you try the Lenovo System Update software once you got WIndows installed? Useful for letting it get the right drivers and other stuff and installing it for you. While checking for files for my W520, I noticed they recently updated the version for this file "system_update_5.08.03.59". In the info it says "Compatible Devices" and "All Thinkpad".
Wow... a really great video. Also the last one from the Thinkpad T60. I also have a T60 that still works well. I'm a big fan of the keyboard. So comfortable to type on. Do you have a list of all the components you used in this and the last video from the T60? Maybe also a link from the bios...That would be nice. Thank you in advance.
Thanks. I don't have a list, but everything I used is mentioned in the videos. Unfortunately, you will need to do some reading before flashing the BIOS. There are different versions for different TPs. You could potentially brick the TP if you use the wrong flash!
That T60(p) is a real classic. I still have one with a T7200. A Linux distro seems like a nice, painless way to keep it usable, although that LTS Windows is a fun idea as well.
Yeah, I will try out the T7600 in another machine with Linux. Should be fun!
Your T60 is just like my X61 is, it has both Lenovo and IBM Branding on it. I still say these were techically the last IBM Thinkpads because I believe like you said, they were designed by IBM but were sold off to Lenovo and these were still in production (plus Lenovo I believe had rights to use the IBM logo on some products for some time after the sale on certain models like this one).
This makes me want to dust off the old ThinkPad A20 my mother in law gave me. She was a chemistry teacher at Pennsbury High back a bunch of years ago, she's long retired now, but they let her keep her ThinkPad. It's a LOVELY mahcine. (I'm pretty sure the model is A20, it is definitely not as new as this one, but looks very similar)
Love to see a nice vid about these.
I've used my Frankenpad many years without issues, it was only 2023 when I switched to another (still old) Thinkpad.
My Franki looked like this: T60 15" chassis and IPS screen (the LGP made SXGA+, not UXGA (those are weaker in contrast ratio), T61 mobo with Intel GPU (never dies unlike nvidia), C2D X9000 unlocked CPU and 2x4GB DDR2 +512GB SSD.
X9000 OC'd to 3.4 GHz easily under a similar PC tower cooler :D The machine itself was usable with it being OC'd to 3.2 GHz, but in summer days I ran it 3.0GHz. TPFC is recommended, since it can make the fan run at its max, since the factory setting prefers silence, but I prefer good cooling.
I sold that machine but I miss it so recently acquired another T60, which I use for the vibes occasionally.
I have to say though, the 14" models, despite having poor screens, have a much nicer sturdiness feeling since their lid is made of Al-Mg alloy while the 15" models are plastic.
You don't need to get an adapter to have an Intel AX210 chipset card on mini PCIe. You can get the cards direct as Mini PCIe form factor. The mpe-axe3000h is an example of such card and won't have issues with the antennas.
Oh, that's great. Thanks!
@@Epictronics1 I got one and Ive tried it in a load of computers. From a Dell Mini 9 from 2008 to a Lenovo IdeaPad 100 from 2016. Even a couple desktop motherboards like the asrock Z97E-ITX from 2013 and they were all able to pull my 300mbit of internet down.
Note, these are "unofficial" as they're basically the M.2 1216 variant of the card soldered to an adapter PCB
Some may have the 2nd antenna connection go nowhere, it's worth popping off the cover to take a peek if you do get one
@@TingFeng77 I'm failing to see a problem when they test totally fine.
@@Jackpkmn yeah they do work fine just do note that some of them don't have both antennas connected up to the board
I side-stepped the wifi limitation on my Tecra A8 by using a usb plug-in wifi adapter that sits in a cradle and has a long cable which sits on my desk. This gives me 802.11n which is more than good enough as my net speed is 50Mbit/sec and would not exceed 802.11n anyway. This is something that a lot of people don't understand. I picked up a DLink Wireless N-150 Bridge for $10 new in box some years ago that is 3X faster than my net connection. Most likely the seller thought it was useless (there are A LOT of clueless PC users) but in reality the wireless bridge can take a connection +50Mb/s faster than what is available in this country (max available is 100 but very expensive) and still work at max speed. For the rare times I need to take this laptop somewhere else the built in 802.11g is fine, and actually 802.11g is 54Mbits/sec which is still faster than my net connection anyway hehe!
nice to see how T60 can still run windows 10 (despite debloated) smoothy
For additional cooling buy some thin thermal pads in size 200mm x 100mm sheets and cut to size. These are available in 0.5mm, 1mm, 1.5mm, 2mm, 2.5mm, 3mm etc so just get whatever thickness is required or use several sheets to take up any air gaps between the heatsink and keyboard (and other parts) so that more of the laptop is acting as a heatsink. I suppose you could also put the thermal pads on the bottom side of the motherboard or anywhere else to draw heat off the board onto the pads and pc case.
One of my favourite laptop after t42, t43 and Fujitsu Siemens Lifebook E8200.
Love it, exactly what I have done with my t42 ! Thanks for the video.
Thanks!
A cooler from a W500 will give you a major increase in cooling. You might have to file the big metal plate down slightly to make it fit. It's totally worth it. I had one on my T60 back in the day. Really helped with that ATI video chip.
I'll start looking for a W500, thanks! Btw. It runs stable up to 2.8GHz @2.7v with the stock cooler. Let's see what it can do with a W500 cooler!
@@Epictronics1
Nice! 🤘
Wrong RF connectors? Lets just swap them!
MAD MAN!
My thought: "I'm sure there are pigtail adapters for this. Or just swap the antenna wires."
Epictronics: "Let's make a Frankenstein's Monster!"
haha... Apparently something can be both crazy impressive AND a face palm. :-D Uh... well done ... I think? lol
I have three Thinkpad Z61p which are almost 100% identical to the T60p. Absolutely fantastic model and one I still use in 2024 for serious tasks, and have done since 2012 when I got them. Why own three? Love at first sight with the first and got the rest as spares, even though all three are fully working. I upgraded them with T7600 CPU, SSD drives, 3GB RAM, Broadcom video decoding card, USB 3.0 via the ExpressCard port and of course docking stations. I even got the one with the desktop PCIe GPU card port, but I never managed to make it work. Might be due to having the Lenovo variant rather than the original IBM.
I agree about the comparison with the T43 series as I own a T43p, and although they are excellent they are nowhere near as capable. They do have most of the features though including the ExpressCard port.
You mean the Advanced Dock? My dock is the newer one without IBM logo and it works with both of my T60's. You just have to change the default video output in BIOS to external card but even then it might not always use the external card in which case I usually shut down the laptop, reconnect and boot again
@@Pasi123 I will give it a few more goes then. I bought two cheap old cards to try with it at the time in 2013; an Geforce GT-610 I think and an ATi card of similar age and spec.
That's some extreme cooling... made my day! :D
So I commend you for your work on making a newer WiFi card work, however there actually exists a WiFi 6 card that not only is mPCIe instead of M.2 A+E, but is also equipped with the older larger WiFi NGFF antenna connectors. I bought one for use in my 2007 Dell Precision M6300 and it works perfectly without issue. I'm in the USA so not sure if it's simply not available in your country but yeah...
Just in case: MPE-AX3000H for the WiFi card.
As far as the cooling solution goes, what's probably the easiest is to cut the shell of the Thinkpad, thermal-adhesive some extensions to the copper heatpipes (either by salvaging them off of another cooler or buying them online), connecting them to a beefier laptop heat exchanger and fan, then 3D-printing an extension to the housing to accomodate that. Doing so would also give you the option of fitting the keyboard from the bigger-brother with the numpad, fitting a bigger battery (for more than 80 minutes of battery life), and some other accessories ;)
Sweet video! I have also maxed out my 2007 daily driver with 8GB of DDR2 800 RAM, a beefier Core 2 Duo T7600, the Quadro FX1600m (the higher spec GPUs are pretty much all dead these days and overheated from the factory so this is the GPU option that makes the most sense), WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.0, USB 3.0 (via an ExpressCard expansion card), an SSD, and swapping the CD-ROM for a DVD burner. I love this machine very much :D
Thanks!
downside to being early to videos is. you are missing half the fun of all the comments
Was surprised to see you re-soldering wifi connectors. Congrats to the new build! What about sleep issue, is it resolved, and wifi speed, does it make your machine more usable in terms of web browsing?
I haven't tested yet! However, I have done some tests with the original cooling. It will run stable up to 2.8GHz @2.7v. I'm going to order a different cooler next and do some more tests!
I did this with my Dell 1545. BT and Wifi disabled in the bios. External USB/BT Mini. CPU P9600, SSD instaed CDR. 4GB RAM. MX Linux.
The plasic part for the wifi card is probably strain relief or to keep the connectors in place.
Nice OC!
Quite remarcable little IBM!
Can't say I quite understand the CPU effort but kudos on swapping out the wifi card. Thankfully Lenovo stopped doing the whitelisting thing some 10 years ago... though now most of their laptops the wifi module isn't swappable anymore since the last year or two...
10:17 Tape is placed over parts with holes such as threaded screw mounts or piezo beepers or other delicate parts like usb-c connectors in manufacturing so that the hole does not get solder, flux residue or solvents from pcb washing or whatever on/in it that could cause it the become unusable. After manufacturing tape does nothing so can be removed. This is the same reason why clear plastic is placed over delicate parts like screens or exterior shiny plastic, to stop damage/scratches in manufacturing so that the product is presented fresh and new in the box.
The tape is so that the pick and place machine can use vacuum to pick up the parts
LTT has proper thermal pads in store, those blue ones are thermal insulators when it comes to transferring heat from a GPU, even if thin and a small GPU.
"It was so easy to upgrade."
And tha is why the manufacturers made away with sockets.
I have an XPS M1710 with T7600G. Cool bit of kit!
Really cool that Intel made this chip!
I had an t62 with dual Ida, over lock + under volt via the ibm_ecw tool.
3GB RAM was probably the main reason for the lag.
I wonder if there is a solution to run heatpipes out the back, so that that gynormous cooler can do its work without obstructing the view (and keyboard)??
That would be pretty cool :)
You can buy pigtails that convert between the two connector sizes.
I wish I had known earlier! Thanks
You could route a heatpipe to the outside and attach a cooler there
I'd love to see you try using a desktop GPU with it, either via the advanced docking station or via the ExpressPort.
It seems like NOTHING today that really should come with, NEVER comes with instructions. At least you got to UP your micro-soldering skills AND problem solved the issue. Nice job either way!
Thanks :)
soldering replacement connectors on the card and not on the two wires is perplexing
Make a box, make ventilation and put fans then connect the screen on top of the box.
done now its a partially portable laptop.
great work though that must have been difficult.
Thanks :)
you could make this into a desktop, external screen and keyboard/mouse also egpu via m.2 adapter
I am not sure if the machine has 945GM chipset but it should support dual channel memory so you should install 2 x 2GB SODIMMs.
try dropping a core 2 quad in there and see how far you can i go. i think those are pin compatible.
How to ruin an ax210 wifi6 instead of using the UFL cables that default fenvi converters, good video, I felt many emotions, from curiosity, anger, pain and I think that finally satisfaction
i saw that the screen of your Thinkpad started with a pink hue a few times. This means the CCFL tube in the display is tired, and on its way out. Try to find a replacement as soon as possible.
Oh, that's what it is! It only started doing this recently. Can you replace the tubes? Or do I have to replace the panel? Thanks!
@@Epictronics1 I wouldn't worry about it. My Tecra A8 has the same issue for ~5 years and still works great. It only does that when it is off, but once it powers up it will come good after 2 seconds. Those Lenovo laptops are common as dirt so if it does go bad just buy another ccfl or the little board that drives it.
I don't think that heat sink is going to fit in that Thinkpad. 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe you can add fan to that beefy heatsink, for better heat dissipation 😅
I think I have a better solution on the way
Just for your information... Some nice vendors had taken Intel's AX200 and similar wifi chipset and put it on a mini PCIe adapter. No need for adapter and at a very reasonable price. I found mine on Amazon.
I feel we need to give companies like this some business, as we need to give them incentive to make strange shit that we need.
I'm only 11mins into the video but I do remember trying to use that WWAN port for other cards before, and it lacks full USB functionality if I recall. So I ended up removing the WiFi card instead and then using an external USB WiFi dongle in one of the USB ports.
I ran this machine with a PCMCIA WiFi card for a while. It worked, however, that M.2 card is neat!
Plastic bit on wifi is to hold antennas down that don't detach or create short circuits
Great video
Thanks!
@@Epictronics1 thanks
The adapter has 2 tiny wires to adapt the antenna connectors. No need to desolder anything.
I wonder which power brick you are using. I recall having a smaller one for travel and a big one that would power the dock and accessories as well as charge faster. Maybe the brickmaxxing is the answer to a stable overclock?
Never thought of that. I'll try with the big brick!
"No feature updates"... I call this a plus.
Will say, I have a T60 running Debian 12. They're not terrible Linux Terminals
Core 2 chips are good overclockers. I have core 2 quad Q9650 @4GHz. So 1Ghz overclocking. But it won't do 4.1. Core voltage is 1.41v
The dell counterparts had multi-bays that supported floppies for longer - you can put a floppy multi-bay as new models as the Latitude D530, D630, D830 etc which which has one gen newer chipset and cpu socket than the t60 (and thus can access full 4 gb, and I think in theory up to 8gb ram if you want to pay out your ass for some 4gb ddr2 SODIMMS)
The T7600G seems a bit pointless in the M1710, I have the Precision M90 - which is basically the workstation version and it coudln't really cool the normal T7600 + quadro FX3500M (aka GTX 7950M - which tends to die due to bumpgate) properly as is.
Same thing with Compaq. IBM was too early to exclude the FDD unfortunately.
Oooh, a M90. I also had one with the 3500M and T7600G at some point, but sold it because I rarely used it.
Im not a windows guy, but Im running "tiny win11" in a VM and it seems pretty cool.
I think I'm gonna give it a try. Maybe on this TP
Couple thoughts
a) I'm not sure improved cooling is possible in the confines of a laptop. Poor cooling is part & parcel of that form factor - you may need to abandon your dreams of massive overclocking. Also, such overclocking would drastically impact what little battery life the machine still has
b) I don't think 3.25GB is a chipset limitation - that's a 32-bit Windows limitation. Is Windows actually seeing all 4GB of RAM?
c) I'm surprised you didn't get a performance improvement just from going to two identical sticks of RAM - dual-channel is important!
d) Go ahead and rip out your old Bluetooth module - the Intel Wifi card should have it's own integrated Bluetooth radio?
No. 3.2xGB is a limitation of this era of PCs and chipset. Do some research and you'll see it's a hardware limitation that exists even with x64. For starters, the 2 slots can only take 2GB max each, 4GB limit and Windows only sees 3.24GB even though the CPU is 64-bit and the Windows is 64-bit. You should get some old PCs and do some of your own testing before stating untruths that are well documented on the net.
Just security updates and no "feature" updates? That's what I wanted the whole time I was using Windows.
I know it's just temporary for the jokes but you shouldn't put thermal paste and cooling on the hot part of the heat pipes! They're meant to be cold on one side and hot on the other, if you add additional cooling directly to the contact area of the CPU you might damage them.
I'd like to find a way to update the TPM firmware in a Dell Latitude E6530. It's 1.2 and for some reason Dell doesn't have a 2.0 update for what was one of their top line flagship business laptops, yet they have updates for lesser contemporaries. My E6530 has i7 CPU, 16 gig RAM, 1080p, nVidia GPU, and a BD-RE drive.
What's crazy is Dell would allow this same laptop to be built with an i5 or even i3, no nVidia GPU, and a 1366x768 display. From turd to terrific, this was the Burger King "Have it Your Way" of laptops. One could even order it with every hotted up option, and still get the 1366x786 display if you really wanted it for some insane reason.
The same TPM update that works on the E7470 also works on some of the Optiplex machines. You could try it on the E6350 and see what happens.
It should be able to run Windows 11 if you use Rufus to bypass the checks, I installed it on a T4400 cpu inside an old Toshiba Satellite before
T4400! Wow. I need to try this!
@Epictronics1 but I think the newest version of windows 11 may not work, you might need an older iso
@@Epictronics1 Don't do it. W11 will make that PC unusable. If I were you I would take it back to W7 like I did on my Tecra A8 which runs like a dream. Plus no updates to bog it down hehe! I know what all the clueless noobs will be saying, my pc is going to get hacked because W7 is unsupported. That's fine by me I am an extreme power user i don't want support or updates. All I can say is lol, go ahead make my day, my security here will just laugh at any of those hacking attempts ;-)
Even better than windows 7 is windows 8 (the RTM version, not 8.1). It's insane how fast it is with less processes running vs win7, less ram usage and better memory management. You can use windows 7 explorer on windows 8.0 (there's a project for that) and get rid of the crappy metro interface but still have the improved kernel and performance that comes with win8
@@g4z-kb7ct just use tiny11
most wifi cards these days are bluetooth as well
What's not elegant about that?! :D
Haha
Cool
26:50 what you're interested in
I have a similar machine from that time, a Dell XPS M1210. I've sort of maxed out the upgrades (save for the CPU, a T7200) with dual 2GB modules. Of course, only up to 3.25GB can be used.
Epictronics, do you have working bluetooth out of that AX210 card?
I've also upgraded the wifi card but instead of using an m.2 carrier board (as I suspect that would not fit my chasis), I opted for a cheap half size mini pci-e card based on the 8265 chip. WiFi is working like a charm, however bluetooth doesn't. The bluetooth "device" is not detected in neither Windows nor Linux and I'm unsure if that's because USB is not wired to my mini-pcie slots or because of a BIOS thing.
Note that bluetooth does work when that card is inserted in a more modern laptop (such as the XPS Studio 13).
I didn't even think to check if it had Bluetooth!
@@Epictronics1 save that for the follow-up video! 😁
@@Epictronics1 according to the schematics, the WLAN slot is not wired to the USB controller. The WWAN is, as is the case in my M1210.
Middleton? Didn't watch yet.
nope. Middleton is sweet, but it's for the T61
seems like it would be easier to get the new wifi cables and cut off the connectors and solder them onto the old antenna.
lol it wasn't even necessary
@@awilliams1701 Maybe it was! I'm not sure!
That cooler 😂 I'm DYING
Old cpu has analog temp sensor, new - digital (i gues). So your fan may not work. My t61 has this problem
i like it 😅
A C2D is not really enough for W10. Yes it runs but it's not an enjoyable experience. I'm still running a Toshiba Tecra A8 (C2D T7200) plugged into a docking station as my main laptop that I use to do everything (including the board mods I did for you). Mainly because I like the proper keyboard on this compared to the flat 1mm travel keyboards of modern laptops. Of course this is not running W10. I have done a bunch of tweaks to the OS and with 2-way firewall and it's locked up rock solid with W7 and everything works perfect and quickly. The great thing is Chrome refuses to update which is really really nice now so I don't get annoying update requests. I'm still running W7SP2. If it works don't fix (or upgrade) it ;-)
A few years ago I also picked up a more recent top-of-the-line Toshiba Portege Z30T-C (I7 6600U, retail $3700 with all options as standard inclusions on this model) with a docking station but I rarely use it as it's got the flat keyboard. Some years ago I had W11 on it (developer version) and it booted in 4 seconds but as updates were done over the 2 years I used it, the laptop got slower and slower. I eventually removed it and put W7 on it and it's super fast. But the Tecra A8 isn't going to last forever so one of these days I'm going to have to migrate to it. Yeah, one of these days.... heheh!
Is there a way to run W7 online securely? I forgot to mention it in the video. The T60 has an amazing keyboard too compared to my modern laptops. The keyboard alone is worth the "downgrade"
@@Epictronics1 What do you mean by 'securely'? Is there some hacker out to get you and you think there's some security issue that could affect you? Most if not all of the 'security' is pure bs just to sell more updates which will eventually cause the PC to get bogged down so far that the user buys a new PC. That means more money for M$. Updates are not required and are only done to keep the programmers busy while M$ develops the next big thing, be it another Windows or whatever. Nothing has changed, Windows is the same as it was in 2015 or later or earlier. W7 runs fine as-is. Security is the responsibility of the user. My current PC is this Tecra A8 running W7 and I have no issues....
@@g4z-kb7ct Maybe it's time for me to do some reading about online security. I'd love to get some of my vintage gear online.
@@Epictronics1 Forget about xp or earlier, no browser I know of that can run on xp or w98 can correctly support latest internet standards and security protocols like https. But with W7 or W8 and last supported version of Chrome or Firefox it works fine. You don't need anything special. working browser for https and latest service pack for the windows version and a two-way firewall software like 'simplewall'.
It's a 65 nm Merom cpu, so 3 GHz on air should be possible and voltages as high at 1.5 Vs is probably safe.
Ok! Let's go for 1.5v next!
You will probably gain 100mhz with a 100mv increase. There's a sweet spot in the CPU voltage / frequency curve and 1.5v is well outside it for core2duo. Ideally keep the voltages below 1.35v for 24/7 operation. For benchmarks feel free to go to 1.5v, but that's it! Go back to safe levels. The CPU power draw at 1.5v might also trigger the over current protection. For the "lags" that you are feeling, make sure you are using GPU drivers that can do hardware acceleration and not the built in "windows standard display adapter" driver. Probably windows 7 is the maximum that you can get before losing that feature
the stock cooling should be ok with handing the chip so long as it dosnt sit in the 80 c marks
I have upgraded the GPU on this machine, so the cooler is running a bit hot. But, I'll give it a try!
Hey, I'm trying to upgrade my T60 just like you. Can you send a link to the bios upgrade? I would like to remove the restrictions on the wifi card as well.😊
Unfortunately, It's not quite that easy. You need to do some reading and find the BIOS patch that works with your machine. There are at least two different patches. The wrong patch might brick your IBM
@@Epictronics1 I have the IBM T60 with the T7600 upgrade and the ati Radeon x1300 gpu. It has the 4:3 aspect ratio and the higher resolution display. Does that help narrow it down?
@@atrdigital5935 Sorry, don't know. but the info is probably online if you search. If you can't find it, ask in the Thinkpad forum
I wish mine worked
It was brand new unopened.
Only shows the charge and battery light
Everything turns off when the power button is pressed
how did you not notice the adapter board included an antenna adapter too? it was stabbing me in the eyes
Of course it did with the magnification you have on the screen. Here in real life, they are about 1mm
@@Epictronics1 true, but with the larger size connector next to them and the cables included it seems silly. still a nice video, hope to see more of the overclocking :)
You should try and install tiny windows I hear that it uses less resources 🙂
I'll check it out!
Lol i also made crazy upgrades to similiar system. For my ASUS A9Rp i bought T7600 then i discovered a G model exists... Bought the fastest ram on planet(hopefully)from hyper x. got a new old stock 7200rpm 80 HDD for the acoustics . Sadly i cant change the GPU so i OCd it to the moon and got some first places on HWBOT :D.
I just checked Ebay UK sold prices and last one of nine sold for £93 a week ago from a China seller. Did you upgrade the cooling heatsink or just use stock?
@@EgoShredder Chceck HWBOT site then browse Hadrware/Videocards/ATI/Xpress Series/RC410M and 3DMark2000 score, there is a photo. CPU has glued heatsink(MX-4) on top and GPU uses liquid metal and is protected with nail color :P so you know its good!
@@EgoShredder I replied twice with long response and youtube deletes it (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
@@EgoShredder 3 replies were deleted i am exhausted
@@sonyericssoner I feel your pain, YT been doing this to me for years. Even when completely rewriting things with totally different words etc.
Has anybody a overview over retro computers that are available as soldering kits? I'm looking for this or similar projects to improve soldering skills.
i have a used t410 2010 lenovo thinkpad laptop is there a way that i can get the iso version of the t410 2013 bios update iso file which allowing me to install newer non-lenovo reliable good quality battery and wifi cards and under/overclock ram & the i5 cpu + i'm a ubuntu linux user.
Does it work with compaq presario c700 c751nr with the limited ram below 4 gb so I have to update and overclock bios to upgrade to 8 gb ram to upgrade to windows 11
i have like 7 t7200 cpus for this thing and 3 t60s
lol I thought WIFI cards were all basically the same at least the connection port and NVME was derrived from them. I was surprised to see it's smaller. and even the antenna. lol
I thought they would at least have the same connectors!
Damn. Bought the T7600G and it does not work with any of my many laptops. Now when i google problems with that CPU there are many results of incompatibility....
The T60 is still reasonably cheap :)
i really like your videos but it hurts that you’re not using linux 💔💔💔
Try unchecking the "disable turbo" box and rerun all tests again... TS can and will prevent turbo defaults from bios (Intel speedstep).. overclocking also involves going into FIVR and adjusting the voltages, not only for the CPU but everything else.
On another note; has anyone come across a modded bios for a dell latitude 3350?... mine has definitely been modified heavily in terms of cooling.. its OC ready.
I'll give it a try, thanks