Good thing they didn’t make the mower for people like you buddy… They made it for people who need something more or bigger to accomplish more and bigger things with their lawn care business…or people who just have to much money and want the bragging rights! 🤷♂️🤣
I bet when you get that mower stuck it’s hard to get out ! I can see me myself going up to the property owner and telling them, I’m going to need to get a dozer too pull my new mower out of there yard.
I have a scag turf tiger two. I've pulled it out with an atv with winch and a come along pretty easily. They do get stuck easily if you get in the wrong situations.
For those who don't like math, 1700cc is 104ci, or 1.7L with a turbo. Cat is a solid motor and if you missed him saying it, warranty motor work has to be don't at cat dealer, they can do work after that but I'd be surprised if there were any isues.
I used to have an L4740 running a 15ft finish bat wing. That tractor had a 41hp PTO out the back. It ran the Batwing just fine. I can't imagine how much torque and power you would have with 48hp going to that small of a deck😳😳
@@ChaseLandMgmt Close we usually use that setup to cut fields to 5 " on a golf course. And occasionally mow 3" to help the other mowers when they got behind. This year it almost exclusively got to mow 3" in parks and the golf course due to a complete failure of a John Deere 1600 wide area mower(admin wanted to wait till new budget year to buy a new one). I'm just glad we got a brand-new M5660suhd to pull the batwing because it got a lot of hours put on it.
I've got the IS700Z and the ISX800 for my mowing business. You can't beat the quality and the suspension of these mowers. I looked at the same mower and thought it was awesome!!! It's a tank!!!!! 😃😃😃
Put this powerhouse in a cub with the GPS system and you're gold. Idk if you saw it, but it gives you a true 3.75in overlap every single pass. At the end of the row, you hit left or right and it turns perfectly and lines up again with 3.75in overlap. With this powers you'd have an amazing piece of machinery that cost as much as a car.
I would like to add that they also put those worthless anti scalping wheels on the machine as well. Ferris needs to invest in some good anti scalping wheels to off set the suspension! It’s so annoying because I own one and if I hit any pot hole in a yard the deck dips!
@@markpontes4457 and you won't have to take your machine to a cat dealer when it needs work which for me is over an hour away. Not gonna work if I have to make money with it
The 2 year warrenty would have been a ferris decision to cut cost. You should beable to buy an additional 4 years of warrenty through Cat. Also your local Cat dealer under warrenty will come to your house to work on it. At no cost to you unless you did something obvious we can't sneak past warrenty.
Hello there! Im using a Ferris 5100 Z at work , it has around 4500 hours still going strong. It's a great machine i love it. Im going hard on it , use it on slopes, hills ( where it can go ) i don't give the machine an easy time i can tell you that. I like the desing,seat and the turbo on the new one, the only downside is that i don't like the hidraulic deck lift on the new 6200 Z...with the old manual ones ( foot pedal ) and the oil switch on the instrument panel you could do so much more work around stumps , un-even terain on slopes and so on.
I own a small fleet of diesel Walker Mowers. All Kubota powered, and my particular unit (nobody else uses the bosses machine lol) just rolled over 8,000hrs this summer, on a D600 that I'm convinced is one of the most reliable little diesels ever built. And for those who don't know... mower engines live a particularly rough, dirty and hot life.
These Mowers are are for really two types of consumers. One somebody that has more dollars than cents. Two a lawn professional that is doing huge acreages that needs to have a good looking cut once they're finished. Ferris is known for their great suspension in all their ZTR line. Like Neil said this one just takes it to another level.
Same here with my new Ferris ISX2200. The ride is why I bought it but it cuts very well and and even though it has a 60” deck it doesn’t scalp like my old JD with a 48” deck. That was a big surprise.
I had a Ferris 5100 with 33hp Cat. Loved the mower it was great but it had cooling issues that my dealer couldn’t fix. I now have the Ferris IS 3300 with 40hp Briggs air cooled much happier
You should be able to up the warrenty on the engine and add an additional 4 years to it. Under warrenty you can have a field service tech comming to your house to fix the issue.
It needs wing mowers on it, no need for 48hp to run a 72” deck, probably Perkins motor painted Cat yellow, pretty heavy for soft yards lot of compaction
For some reason Cat's website states the C1.7 having only 40.2 HP. WTH? Still plenty though. I used to have a Dixie Chopper 72" with twin 20 HP Kohlers. It was nutty. Two keys. Two chokes. Two everything. Except for some reason it had four gas tanks and I think it held 12 gallons total. Each engine had a centrifugal clutch with a belt that went to a central jackshaft. Two other belts came off that and one went to the mower deck and the other went to the hydraulic pump. At idle nothing would work because the jackshaft was not spinning. It had digital tachometers so you could synchronize the full throttle RPMs of each engine for full power and efficiency. It would mow at 16 miles per hour but of course that was a waste because the cut quality was not good. It was really sort of crudely designed but it was a fun machine and would also do wheelies. I bought it broken (bad deck bearing and spindle) for a good deal and mowed with it for four or five years and sold it with the house.
My dealer which also has a lawncare business puts 5k hours every 3 years on their big dog diablo with the kawasaki fx850 by that point engine is worn out so that's all major thing they replace the hydro gear 5400 are still going strong
I would have assumed wealthy people with large properties, and a desire to have the most expensive of everything. If you're the kind of guy who flies a private jet, what's $32K for a mower?
I have a ZD326 that I would keep any day over that Ferris. I do own 4 other Ferris mowers that are wonderful, a Z2, a Z3 and (2) ISX2300 that are great mowers but that Kubota will outlast all of them. The Kubota was only 13K too not 30K, geez.
Other brands have used Perkins and even though it's a decent engine parts and service for those are hard to get and Perkins used to require any work be done at CAT dealers only... idk if that is still their policy or not.
My isx 40hp is way to heavy 1750lbs , this looks like a nightmare for leaving tire ruts for sure. I love mine for comfort, power and productivity however cut quality especially in lawns that are heavily mixed with crab grass is very poor. Zosia good, Bermuda good, fescue ok. There are days I want to scream as I have to double cut so often.
Very heavy looking tear up the lawn? High center of gravity looks bad for hills. I would prefer spending money if they had 3 blades up front and two trailing behind to ensure nothing wasn't cut to the right height. Never going back over the same spot twice would save lots of time.
I get what you’re saying, you can’t beat ventracs versatility. But at the same time, this Ferris will running circles around a ventrac without breaking a sweat :)
@@SC-cb3vq there's absolutely no reason this engine should be in the standard deck size. Over 90" then yes. This is the definition of wasting money. I highly doubt the sell many. Not to mention ferris mowers fall apart...
@@KSN2019 I agree that it’s overkill and a waste of money because of it. But it’s more like a flagship model than anything. An example of what can be done. I work at an equipment and mower dealership and of the used mowers we get on trade-in, the Ferrises are by far I better condition than a cub, toro, or deere would be with similar hours.
I know several large companies that buy the diesel ferris mowers. The fuel economy when mowing for 8-10 hours solid and sometimes being far away from the shop means a lot to them when they don't have to worry about fuel ups.
I’m more concerned with being able to buy another SRS Z3X 61”. My dealer couldn’t even get me the 2nd one I ordered in May as of this post. It’s so frustrating that there is nothing available.
4-5K hours is if you do cavitation additives, change the oil every 100hrs use Shell Rotella T4 oil, & change the filters! Hopefully it’s air cooled, but if it’s not it’ll need the cavitation DCA4 additives. If it’s a mechanical diesel people are gonna be defeating the emissions on em after the warranty expires. The motor like you said should well go beyond the life of the mower, if it’s taken care of the motor will probably end up in some old garden tractor.
Don't under rate gasoline engine, I'm still using a Kohler K301 (12 hp) with a 44 inch deck and a heavy hydrostatic drive system to mow the lawn. It goes through anything, never uses oil, and always starts. It's just a little single cylinder cast iron engine, but it's around 45 years old now, and who knows how many hours. I think in all of that time, the engine has only been rebored once. I doubt anything has been done to the hydrostatic drive. The tires are even original, but they are showing their age.
@@Senkino5o explain to me how a low traction on a soft terrain, not a driveway or pavement will wear the tires down. It's not like a car tire that will wear down from being on the road and trying to get the most traction out of them. These tires are harder than the ground now, slowing the wear down more. The worst issue is the dry rotting.
@@Senkino5o Not so. I have a 1973 Craftsman Suburban with a single cylinder cast ironed sleeved 15hp B&S when they made good smaller engines. I don't use it now but it was used for at least 30 years mowing around fields, ponds, and large lawns. Those tires are not even remotely worn out or even cracked. They just seem to be tougher than the tires on mowers made today.
@@MessicksEquip So the real issue is that Kubota is not shipping any thing here for sale, do you have that mower for sale? also what is the weight difference on a ZD331 Vs it?
You’re kidding, right? The reason those emission systems exist is emissions. That is also the reason the government agency charged with insuring we have reasonably clean air to breathe regulates them.
Why would you spend that kind of money on something that dosen't have a very good warranty and have to take it to 2 different places to get warranty work done.
I have a bumpy yard and just bought a Ferris ISX2200 to save my back. I’m amazed at how well it cuts while traveling through the whoops. Much better than I expected.
@@michaelbenoit248 it should have a doc only. No dpf or scr (the system that uses def). The warrenty should be able to be upgraded to an additional 4 years for an affordable price that will allow you to get a field service tech to the machine at no cost to you. The 2 year warrenty period was chosen by ferris so they could save the money upfront.
Hey do you have the Kabota dingo for sale up there? I was going to get the bobcat mt 85 from best line equipment but I’ve called twice to talk to sales man and I haven’t got a call back. For some reason their sales man works from his truck and not the store. So I will see if my money is good somewhere else? I need it for my landscaping business. Also maybe a few attachments too.
So this thing doesn't have a throttle stick? Why not just have some basic RPM, MPH, temperature, oil pressure, and fuel gauges instead of a clumsy digital control panel
The problem with the mowers now isn't the power, it's the weight!!!!! These things are way to heavy for mowing...both of my scags are 1500lbs + each, getting them stuck involves a lot of time and stress to get them out. Plus they sink down so much on lawns causing ripples so to speak or tire ruts....I don't care about power as much as making them lighter!!
I love Ferris mowers but, 48hp?? I have a 33hp Ferris IS5000 and it runs through nearly anything you'd want a mower to go through and more . I don't know what kind of lawn where you would need 48hp.
Overkill for a traditional zero turn but however I can see use for this if you had a high speed rough cut mower like Altoz definitely a lot more useful in such an application
@@blessed7fold You'll find less and less of that any more. Quite simply, dealers don't make enough money selling mowers to put the time in on demo's. When we do them anymore, it's usually with the understanding that the machine does not come back if it performs in the ways we say it will.
For the cost of this single mower, i could get a whole fleet up and going!
Good thing they didn’t make the mower for people like you buddy…
They made it for people who need something more or bigger to accomplish more and bigger things with their lawn care business…or people who just have to much money and want the bragging rights! 🤷♂️🤣
@@southernslangerz2254 I'd go with the second part
@@thespig13 Hell yea! 🤣🤣🤣
I could see this with a 72 inch deck. Mowing state right a ways.
I ran a Ferris mower with a 33hp Cat. with a 72" deck. I was an awesome machine. Exact same suspension, smooth ride is a huge understatement.
I bet when you get that mower stuck it’s hard to get out !
I can see me myself going up to the property owner and telling them, I’m going to need to get a dozer too pull my new mower out of there yard.
I’m dying of laughter man. So true though. Honestly
I have a scag turf tiger two. I've pulled it out with an atv with winch and a come along pretty easily. They do get stuck easily if you get in the wrong situations.
Expensive yes. But I never thought they would spend 25 - 30 grand on a side by side either to play on. Yet I see a lot of them
For those who don't like math, 1700cc is 104ci, or 1.7L with a turbo. Cat is a solid motor and if you missed him saying it, warranty motor work has to be don't at cat dealer, they can do work after that but I'd be surprised if there were any isues.
I used to have an L4740 running a 15ft finish bat wing. That tractor had a 41hp PTO out the back. It ran the Batwing just fine. I can't imagine how much torque and power you would have with 48hp going to that small of a deck😳😳
Must have been mowing some 8” tall field grass to make that claim.
@@ChaseLandMgmt Close we usually use that setup to cut fields to 5 " on a golf course. And occasionally mow 3" to help the other mowers when they got behind. This year it almost exclusively got to mow 3" in parks and the golf course due to a complete failure of a John Deere 1600 wide area mower(admin wanted to wait till new budget year to buy a new one). I'm just glad we got a brand-new M5660suhd to pull the batwing because it got a lot of hours put on it.
I've got the IS700Z and the ISX800 for my mowing business. You can't beat the quality and the suspension of these mowers. I looked at the same mower and thought it was awesome!!! It's a tank!!!!! 😃😃😃
Put this powerhouse in a cub with the GPS system and you're gold. Idk if you saw it, but it gives you a true 3.75in overlap every single pass. At the end of the row, you hit left or right and it turns perfectly and lines up again with 3.75in overlap. With this powers you'd have an amazing piece of machinery that cost as much as a car.
This engine in a Cub....You know who makes Cub? MTD the cheapest mower on the market..I wouldn't go there.
And yet they still put the most worthless tires they can find on it.
I would like to add that they also put those worthless anti scalping wheels on the machine as well. Ferris needs to invest in some good anti scalping wheels to off set the suspension! It’s so annoying because I own one and if I hit any pot hole in a yard the deck dips!
🤣🤣
List price of $30,000 with only a 2 year warranty on the engine. CAT needs to stop being cheap with their warranties.
I'm guessing this is just a yellow Perkins engine? Cat bought them several years ago and didn't change much except the paint scheme
Yes a smallmCat motors are Perkins. I would take a Kubota, or Yanmar over the Perkins. Better Warranty too!
@@markpontes4457 cheers to Kubota quality!!!
@@markpontes4457 and you won't have to take your machine to a cat dealer when it needs work which for me is over an hour away. Not gonna work if I have to make money with it
The 2 year warrenty would have been a ferris decision to cut cost. You should beable to buy an additional 4 years of warrenty through Cat. Also your local Cat dealer under warrenty will come to your house to work on it. At no cost to you unless you did something obvious we can't sneak past warrenty.
Hello there!
Im using a Ferris 5100 Z at work , it has around 4500 hours still going strong. It's a great machine i love it. Im going hard on it , use it on slopes, hills ( where it can go ) i don't give the machine an easy time i can tell you that.
I like the desing,seat and the turbo on the new one, the only downside is that i don't like the hidraulic deck lift on the new 6200 Z...with the old manual ones ( foot pedal ) and the oil switch on the instrument panel you could do so much more work around stumps , un-even terain on slopes and so on.
I got 800 hours on a X300 2007 John deer 42 inch don’t even have a hood anymore still runs like day one love it lol ‼️💯
I own a small fleet of diesel Walker Mowers. All Kubota powered, and my particular unit (nobody else uses the bosses machine lol) just rolled over 8,000hrs this summer, on a D600 that I'm convinced is one of the most reliable little diesels ever built. And for those who don't know... mower engines live a particularly rough, dirty and hot life.
The price takes me out of the equation!
Hard for me to believe someone would pay $30K for a lawnmower.
These Mowers are are for really two types of consumers. One somebody that has more dollars than cents. Two a lawn professional that is doing huge acreages that needs to have a good looking cut once they're finished. Ferris is known for their great suspension in all their ZTR line. Like Neil said this one just takes it to another level.
Wow, 🤔 three words!
Over killing it, a bit. Thanks Neil for the Demo 👍👍 That's a beast of a mower!
Love my Ferris IS 2100, best ride I've ever seen on a zero turn
Same here with my new Ferris ISX2200. The ride is why I bought it but it cuts very well and and even though it has a 60” deck it doesn’t scalp like my old JD with a 48” deck. That was a big surprise.
I can only imagine the line of Messick's employees that formed waiting to test that baby out! 😜👍💪
It needs wing mowers on it, no need for 48hp to run a 72” deck, Perkins motor painted Cat yellow
Does Caterpillar own Perkins now? Even if they don't aren't Perkins engines good, I know older ones are good motors.
@@BlackHawkBallistic cat bought Perkins in 97, yeah there hood motors got there issues like every other engine “, Perkapillar
I am waiting on the next crop of heaver duty electric zero turns to hit the market. Just hope they cost way less than this bad boy.
about $32,000....... Really? On a 72inch mower?
I had a Ferris 5100 with 33hp Cat. Loved the mower it was great but it had cooling issues that my dealer couldn’t fix. I now have the Ferris IS 3300 with 40hp Briggs air cooled much happier
Good morning Morgan's, 28 deg. in North Idaho. Nice pumpkin. 388 lbs
I have one. 2 hours in, pto rear drive belt broke . But other than that, I love it. So smooth 😎
That's awesome. Altho getting stuck with a exmark sucks. Can you guys imagine getting this stuck how will you get it out.
You should be able to up the warrenty on the engine and add an additional 4 years to it. Under warrenty you can have a field service tech comming to your house to fix the issue.
It needs wing mowers on it, no need for 48hp to run a 72” deck, probably Perkins motor painted Cat yellow, pretty heavy for soft yards lot of compaction
Evolution of the Perkins 404; you nailed it. Perkins even licenses said design from shibaura
Cat owns both Perkins and Shibauru, they produce the engines in Griffin GA.
@@ddorn04 IHI owns Shibaura, I'm sure CATe probably owns the rights of distribution on said design in the US, but never owned Shibaura
For some reason Cat's website states the C1.7 having only 40.2 HP. WTH? Still plenty though. I used to have a Dixie Chopper 72" with twin 20 HP Kohlers. It was nutty. Two keys. Two chokes. Two everything. Except for some reason it had four gas tanks and I think it held 12 gallons total. Each engine had a centrifugal clutch with a belt that went to a central jackshaft. Two other belts came off that and one went to the mower deck and the other went to the hydraulic pump. At idle nothing would work because the jackshaft was not spinning. It had digital tachometers so you could synchronize the full throttle RPMs of each engine for full power and efficiency. It would mow at 16 miles per hour but of course that was a waste because the cut quality was not good. It was really sort of crudely designed but it was a fun machine and would also do wheelies. I bought it broken (bad deck bearing and spindle) for a good deal and mowed with it for four or five years and sold it with the house.
I'd love to see that
They also made a 50 HP Yanmar diesel version back then.
years ago my brother and I had Dixie Chopper demo with the twin Kohler's. It was called the "Suburban Turbine"
That is nuts lol but cool as all get out you need to find a hay field and work the crap out of it
Emissions system, that's a no for me. Sounds good, but why do you need that much HP?
That's one fine machine 👍. It puts my gravely zero turn lawn mower to shame.
I wouldn’t tell anyone I won the lottery but their would be signs!
My dealer which also has a lawncare business puts 5k hours every 3 years on their big dog diablo with the kawasaki fx850 by that point engine is worn out so that's all major thing they replace the hydro gear 5400 are still going strong
That mower is why you would refer to it as....."A Mower, Sir!"
Now that’s a real mower, I’d wouldn’t be Surprised if it can cut 4 foot tall hay!
Dadgum that’s a beast
I can do wheelies with my 25hp husky bit I'm pretty sure the hydrostats have lost a few steps from them;)
Same here with my ariens ikon52 wheelies all the time lol
Holy crap $30,000 to cut grass! Can a commercial grass cutting company afford that?
I dont think. That's a lot of money. Municipalities maybe.
If they write it off somehow I'm sure they could
@@BlackHawkBallistic everything is wrote off. But you need income to back that kind of money up
I would have assumed wealthy people with large properties, and a desire to have the most expensive of everything. If you're the kind of guy who flies a private jet, what's $32K for a mower?
@@paullambert2668 Does a guy who flies his own jet mow his own yard?
Ok lets see ya do that on the front wheels. 😀
A friend of mine bought a SCAG with a Kubota diesel….. sounds like a helicopter when mowing.
I have a ZD326 that I would keep any day over that Ferris. I do own 4 other Ferris mowers that are wonderful, a Z2, a Z3 and (2) ISX2300 that are great mowers but that Kubota will outlast all of them. The Kubota was only 13K too not 30K, geez.
Great video Neil - chances are its either a Perkypillar (Cat owns Perkins) or a yellow Kubota.
It's a perkins.
That is freaking insane
Other brands have used Perkins and even though it's a decent engine parts and service for those are hard to get and Perkins used to require any work be done at CAT dealers only... idk if that is still their policy or not.
Perkins is owned by cat you can buy a bad boy zero turn with either a cat or a Perkins engine
My isx 40hp is way to heavy 1750lbs , this looks like a nightmare for leaving tire ruts for sure.
I love mine for comfort, power and productivity however cut quality especially in lawns that are heavily mixed with crab grass is very poor.
Zosia good, Bermuda good, fescue ok. There are days I want to scream as I have to double cut so often.
Waaayyy over the top. Something to see but who's gonna buy it? I would drive it to church and show it off.
Very heavy looking tear up the lawn? High center of gravity looks bad for hills. I would prefer spending money if they had 3 blades up front and two trailing behind to ensure nothing wasn't cut to the right height. Never going back over the same spot twice would save lots of time.
This guy is kind of like the Doug demuro for the tractor world lol
I definitely slide some doug-isms in here and there.
I’ll start…Neil’s the type of guy who would take a new 30k mower and purposely hit pot holes.
So you spend 30k to purchase it from a dealer who’s not certified to do engine warranty work? Pain in the butt.
Call your local cat dealer and we will come to your door to work on it under warrenty for free. ( not including pm service).
Is it better than two $22k Exmark 72’s?
Slowly lower the deck? So going over a stump will be slower than an Exmark? I always have my foot on the deck pedal. I mow country lawns.
Well ill never be able to afford a mower like that haha
To many things to cause problems! You really don't need a space shuttle to cut grass
2 zd1211 72" mowers with 0 emissions
1 perkins powered ferris with emissions
Seems like a simple choice..
If I’m going to spend $30,000.00 on a lawnmower, it’s going to be something that can make me money on all types of terrain ... Ventrac 👍🏻
I get what you’re saying, you can’t beat ventracs versatility. But at the same time, this Ferris will running circles around a ventrac without breaking a sweat :)
@@SC-cb3vq there's absolutely no reason this engine should be in the standard deck size. Over 90" then yes. This is the definition of wasting money. I highly doubt the sell many. Not to mention ferris mowers fall apart...
@@KSN2019 I agree that it’s overkill and a waste of money because of it. But it’s more like a flagship model than anything. An example of what can be done.
I work at an equipment and mower dealership and of the used mowers we get on trade-in, the Ferrises are by far I better condition than a cub, toro, or deere would be with similar hours.
I know several large companies that buy the diesel ferris mowers. The fuel economy when mowing for 8-10 hours solid and sometimes being far away from the shop means a lot to them when they don't have to worry about fuel ups.
@@indianaoutdoors4379 wow that’s crazy. Didn’t know they could run that long.
Let onelonelyfarmer test it out with you in a Hey field maybe. Bet Wes can torture test it !!🤣🤣
When he's not too busy cussing or staging a friend "drowning" in a flood .....
I’m more concerned with being able to buy another SRS Z3X 61”. My dealer couldn’t even get me the 2nd one I ordered in May as of this post. It’s so frustrating that there is nothing available.
Somebody should take three residential riding motors and bolt them all together like those old WW2 planes
4-5K hours is if you do cavitation additives, change the oil every 100hrs use Shell Rotella T4 oil, & change the filters!
Hopefully it’s air cooled, but if it’s not it’ll need the cavitation DCA4 additives.
If it’s a mechanical diesel people are gonna be defeating the emissions on em after the warranty expires. The motor like you said should well go beyond the life of the mower, if it’s taken care of the motor will probably end up in some old garden tractor.
I love Messick's and have learned allot for my tractor but a Wright ZXT is half the price twice the warranty of this mower.
a box store cub cadet is 1/10th the price and triple the warranty :-)
Don't under rate gasoline engine, I'm still using a Kohler K301 (12 hp) with a 44 inch deck and a heavy hydrostatic drive system to mow the lawn. It goes through anything, never uses oil, and always starts. It's just a little single cylinder cast iron engine, but it's around 45 years old now, and who knows how many hours. I think in all of that time, the engine has only been rebored once. I doubt anything has been done to the hydrostatic drive. The tires are even original, but they are showing their age.
It obviously doesn't get much use if it still has the original tires.
@@Senkino5o explain to me how a low traction on a soft terrain, not a driveway or pavement will wear the tires down. It's not like a car tire that will wear down from being on the road and trying to get the most traction out of them. These tires are harder than the ground now, slowing the wear down more. The worst issue is the dry rotting.
@@Senkino5o Not so. I have a 1973 Craftsman Suburban with a single cylinder cast ironed sleeved 15hp B&S when they made good smaller engines. I don't use it now but it was used for at least 30 years mowing around fields, ponds, and large lawns. Those tires are not even remotely worn out or even cracked. They just seem to be tougher than the tires on mowers made today.
Can you add a front loader to that machine?🤔
Makes me feel inadequate with my ZD1211
I bought a zd1211 last week. Don't worry.
@@MessicksEquip Inadequacy loves company? :-)
Does it have built-in mulch kit or offer it as an option?
I believe it is an add-on you can buy
is the blade speed faster that the Kubota? Do you have one for sale? how do you get under the deck?
The entire industry of commercial mowers all tops out a the same blade speed. Approx 18,000 feet\min.
@@MessicksEquip So the real issue is that Kubota is not shipping any thing here for sale, do you have that mower for sale? also what is the weight difference on a ZD331 Vs it?
or kubota is not selling any thing with out a ? also the blade speed on my grass hoper is not the same as the 331
put it through a bahaya field grass height about 3-1/2 to 4 ft with the chute up
How much
Heard the all electric Gravely is 28k so this is a bargain. Should come with a air conditioned cab though.
It's a Perkins engine!!
Dose any company make zero turn with a cab?
Ive seen a ferris is3200 with a cab, also think you can get a toro
I did see am aftermarket cab with AC for the Kubota zd1211 mower. It seemed well done, but I could never operate with a cab in the way.
@@KubotaL4060 I think u can.buy them with a factory installed cab now
I'm always going to worry about the emissions system, since they're expensive to fix and only exist due to government mandate.
You’re kidding, right? The reason those emission systems exist is emissions. That is also the reason the government agency charged with insuring we have reasonably clean air to breathe regulates them.
Snapper and Ferris are the same mower. Been in this business for 26 years. Terrible wire harness . Great cutting deck.
... and simplicity, we sell all 3. Can't say I've heard the wiring comment before.
Now add some accessories like a harley rake or a blade and you may help justify the price.
Why would you spend that kind of money on something that dosen't have a very good warranty and have to take it to 2 different places to get warranty work done.
Have they started a dirt track racing class? They wouldn't have built it if there are no buyers.
Yep hit the bumps and do this in a yard, can you imagine how the yard will look
I have a bumpy yard and just bought a Ferris ISX2200 to save my back. I’m amazed at how well it cuts while traveling through the whoops. Much better than I expected.
The weakest link in the build is the CAT Engine with their puny 2 year warranty.
They have that so you can delete the emissions if it’s got a DEF.
@@michaelbenoit248 it should have a doc only. No dpf or scr (the system that uses def). The warrenty should be able to be upgraded to an additional 4 years for an affordable price that will allow you to get a field service tech to the machine at no cost to you. The 2 year warrenty period was chosen by ferris so they could save the money upfront.
This man gives me Doug Demuro vibes.
Quirks and features.
I live in Dillsburg and I have plenty of spots to put it to the test. Hit me up and bring it over.
Hey do you have the Kabota dingo for sale up there? I was going to get the bobcat mt 85 from best line equipment but I’ve called twice to talk to sales man and I haven’t got a call back. For some reason their sales man works from his truck and not the store. So I will see if my money is good somewhere else? I need it for my landscaping business. Also maybe a few attachments too.
@@byronrobinson8633 " KUBOTA"
@@jerva245 kabota.
@@byronrobinson8633 if you wanna spell it that way, there's no law against it.. 😄😄😄
@@jerva245 now you’re thinking.
Great machine from a former milking machine company...
Def required?
Not under 75 hp
Would you buy a truck, say a Ram with a Cummins, from a dealership that couldn't work on the engine? Nope? Me neither!
Cool mower. Over priced? Yes
So this thing doesn't have a throttle stick? Why not just have some basic RPM, MPH, temperature, oil pressure, and fuel gauges instead of a clumsy digital control panel
Neil you watch too many Doug reviews lol
I would buy it just for the cat in it
How much a house of course!
Mower probably weighs 10,000 pounds! I'll stick to my exmark lazer z zero turns
The problem with the mowers now isn't the power, it's the weight!!!!! These things are way to heavy for mowing...both of my scags are 1500lbs + each, getting them stuck involves a lot of time and stress to get them out. Plus they sink down so much on lawns causing ripples so to speak or tire ruts....I don't care about power as much as making them lighter!!
This one is 1000lbs more lol
2600lbs 😮
No thanks I’ll stay with my 52” cub cadet and 48” bad boy
I love Ferris mowers but, 48hp?? I have a 33hp Ferris IS5000 and it runs through nearly anything you'd want a mower to go through and more . I don't know what kind of lawn where you would need 48hp.
I think this is more of a "because we can" than any real need.
4-5,000hrs?
ANY commercial Vtwin will do that eaisly.
Overkill for a traditional zero turn but however I can see use for this if you had a high speed rough cut mower like Altoz definitely a lot more useful in such an application
The reason they last so long is because there maxed out at 2500 rpm so there barely even working to motor
Another perkapiller
LOL……..
I want it lol
The ZD Kubota mowers have a better wet disc PTO clutch system. Electric clutches are not as good
This is true. The Kubota has that advantage on virtually every other mower.
@@MessicksEquip Except they don't meet industry standard by providing demos of them on customer properties. What's Kubota hiding?
@@blessed7fold You'll find less and less of that any more. Quite simply, dealers don't make enough money selling mowers to put the time in on demo's. When we do them anymore, it's usually with the understanding that the machine does not come back if it performs in the ways we say it will.
i thought it was a butane bottle
You Donna come fest it I have a field that hasn't been mowed in over 2 years you are welcome to
waiting for the tesla model
Beautiful mower and i would love to have it on my 100 acre farm BUT holy crap $30+K yea my wife would kill my azz
Well then just remember who makes the money and tell her to cook supper
It's obvious who wears the pants in that relationship.
@@blessed7fold she doesn’t wear the pants but can get crazy with shopping if I get crazy with toys